Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL: Will it Rally?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Will It Rally? This new web series from The Team O'Neil Rally School asks the only car question that really matters: Will it Rally? Ride along as we test the limits of different vehicles on our skidpad and slalom areas, before putting them against the stopwatch on a mountainous rally stage here at Team O'Neil.
In this episode, we're driving a 2018 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon on a beautiful winter day at Team O'Neil HQ in Dalton New Hampshire. While the Rubicon is a popular choice for overlanding and off roading, how will the Jeep JL stack up to some rallycross and rally driving? Sit back, relax, and enjoy the epic quest to find out.. Will it Rally?
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"Dont be a chicken dont be a chicken, 3rd gear. Nope, back down to 2nd" this is the only vehicle wyatt looked scared driving.
11:05 had me dying! The micro expression of fear was priceless.
@@viperstd I got the same vibe when he ran the SUV...but he didn't verbalize it as much in that video.
The split second of terror here and there were great
Shannon Lenz they’re quite heavy for their size, top heavy and narrow, small ish wheel
base, with decent and short gears. Oh also don’t forget live axels all around
The only real saving graces are the tires and locker. Otherwise it’s ALL meant for off-roading under 10-15 mph which seriously compromises any sort of fast rally handling
Most sedans of the same size are about 3500 lb compared to the probably 4500-5000 of the jeep. And don’t forget the electronic nannies which fuck everything up when you really want to get sideways and do it controlled (which they thankfully disabled)
I bet this thing was TERRIFYINGLY unstable and wanted to wander EVERYWHERE
I shudder at the bump steer and axel misalignment alone. due to the stock setup and shit trackbars on these things stock
Summer tires, I would say it's like driving on ice if he wasn't literally driving on ice.
Wow, he looked scared driving this car fast lol
Piotr Sulej Hahahaha I thought that
Well who wouldn't be? This isn't at all what a jeep was meant for
this guy has a very greate skill!
It takes some balls to drive a wrangler past 108 mph, i know from experience
I'd love to see these laps uncut in a forward facing cam with a foot cam overlaid in the corner with Wyatt's voiceover. The production of this series, and your channel's video content overall, is fantastic, but I would watch the hell of a 3 minute narrated lap.
Awesome driving! That was fun to watch.
cool thx for the vid
5:10 this is my favorite part of this video😂
You are a brave man, now try it in a 2 door!
You should rally a kei car if possible. That would be interesting.
Kind of a stretch but would love to see how the new Suzuki Jimny would do here.
A lot folks told me not to purchase the Rubicon. Even though I infatuated with it......
Man, I like Wyatt. Wyatt is cool.
next: ford fiesta mk8 trend
Snowboard: will it rally behind a rally car?
We did it with skis, need to try a snowboard next: ua-cam.com/video/XerQr2jxtRM/v-deo.html
You mean m/t's or a/t's aren't the best tire in the world for driving on snow covered pavement? What are all the mall crawlers going to do now?!?!?!1?
One idea that came to my mind: could you put a forward facing camera to the roof or the bumper, so we could get a feeling of what's actually happening while you drive around? Just put the video in a corner, so it won't take much space from the regular content.
I second this
Yup, could do a Picture-in-Picture of the outside view in a corner of the screen?
The more different camera views, the better
Probably wouldn't hurt to use half the screen for each.
Can also be uploaded a separate video. Just the driving with no cuts, maybe split the screen into 4 quadrants to show p.o.v. from different cameras
Will it rally? Yes. Should you ever consider it for that purpose. No.
That sums it up perfectly!
why? looks like you mad for no reason
I look forward to an episode when you guys test a fully built (maybe even WRC) rally car, and ask: will it rally? 😀
they kind of already did that with the WRX (not fully build but with proper rally tires I believe: ua-cam.com/video/iPDOn3MF4OQ/v-deo.html
@@MAXQ14 I think that's what he's getting at. The school car is a great benchmark for normal cars, for sure, but next level would be an actual Rally car in race form. That'd be top notch.
Wyatt, you are usually so composed and make driving this stage look easy. This time you looked scared. Fun.
I really think it's the solid front axle, they handle awful.
This is the best series’s on UA-cam, thank you Wyatt.
Thanks Jonathan!
Dont be chicken dont be chicken 3rd gear......*shifts to third*
Nooo back down to 2nd *shifts back to 2nd*
Hahahah this is the best will it rally yet. I am in tears 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂
Can't wait to see more every-day cars! Do a few more RWD and FWD cars! Mustang, Civic, RX7/8, Metro, Festiva!
They've mentioned in the past that they're limited to vehicles in their stable but will use private vehicles submitted by their owners. The vehicles will have to have the usual basic safety equipment like seat belts, tires with usable tread, no salvage titles with structural damage, etc. Do you know anyone with one of the vehicles you've mentioned that would be able to drive it out to Team O'Neill for a day of filming?
Nah I'm in SoCal, no one I know would make that drive
Jared Bennett rx7 vs civic would be cool
"with any luck ,now we will have no stability control or antilock brakes"
I'd like to see the new Ford Bronco when it comes out. Or maybe a 2019 ranger now.
I second the 2019 Ranger! I saw some drifting in an older video on this channel and ever since I've been hoping to see one on "Will it Rally?"
I wanna see the old bronco and ranger
This is the best Wrangler video i've seen. And your skills is awesome!
I'm really curious how this should go in the summer on gravel. I'm guessing a 4runner would have been better
Rallying my 2001 Grand Cherokee is actually pretty sick. Feels sooooo good.
@@Trebelhornc Awesome! Yeah, kinda makes sense that an older model might handle better- more control for the driver
Enoch Martin I’m sure it would really good
should be with independent front
4runners have independent front suspension meaning its better for stuff like rally but the Jeep is better for articulation and extreme offroad situations.
That Jeep looks like a pig, but so graceful through the snow! Wyatt's commentary on the lap is great as always, but he was not having an easy time..."3rd gear....nope, back down to 2nd", lol! Loving this series! :D
Would love to see you spank some more cheap econoboxes around the stage too...maybe the cheapest car in North America, i.e. the Mitsubishi Mirage...? Would be interesting to see what the cheapest new car you can get would do!
Also, as an owner of one, a 2009 Hyundai Accent hatch wouldn't go amiss :P
Kody Dagley A base model Volvo S60 would be kinda cool too. I have an R model but those base models can be found for under $3k everywhere
@@curgunner That would be interesting to see, yes!
I'd never thought I'd like a Jeep so much, I want that one.
This one was particularly entertaining with all the pretty terrified faces, loved it
That oversteer tho
This looks like so much fun
Racing a Jeep. You are just asking to get killed by the death wobble.
Will it Rally? Absolutely not. .... wellllllllll, unless you're Wyatt, then absolutely.
Lol first vehicle where you weren't completely relaxed while sliding around but you still did it. Bad ass.
shes no rally car in finland but still an awesome vehicle.. i own one.. love it!!!
I'm curious how bad something has to be to NOT rally.
Jonathon Barberio
I really want to see something completely ridiculous like an rv or box truck!
@@deereman8237 "We overshot every apex and rolled it at the hairpin but I think we answered the question, will it rally? YES!!!
Jonathon Barberio
Lmao! 😂
its all in the tires and how brave the driver is, given that its not completely broken, lol
I know this series is for street cars, but I think it would actually be hilarious to see an ultra4 truck doing this. Especially one of the stock class/4600 trucks.
ultra 4 cherokee would be cool to see put through its paces
I think this is the most wide eyed I’ve seen him drive
I would like to see how a Ford ranger would do. been thinking about building one with ttb front suspension for rallycross. loving these videos.
William Cooper they build them for pre runners all the time
I bet itd do pretty well if not for the weight
I’d definitely 4 link with a wats link in the rear and keep it at stock height or of lifted no more than 2” and DEFINITELY long arm the front with modified twisted arms so the camber change and bump steer isn’t nearly as terrible
Not much you can really do about the scrubbing tho
A late model ranger with A arms up front would be much more suited
Not even getting into fragility concerns and driveline bind with TTB
:source: used to own an 87 4x4 RCSB 5 speed
Thank you for braving the Wrangler on course! Great explanation on why a solid front axle vehicle isn't great for this kind of driving. I get a lot of questions from locals asking about running their older solid axle pickup trucks are rallycross.
My god you look terrified lmao, i drifted around my TJ in the snow once, was fine in the slush but dear god i wouldn't want to get up to speed sideways in it lmao i barely feel comfortable going 70 in the dry
Love my tj for some snow drifts. I've gotten my jeep up to 85-90 and it felt fine. A little floaty but not bad for a brick on a brick
Y'all need to either set a time that the vehicles have to beat in order to say that they WILL rally. Or, change the name of the segment to "HOW does It Rally?".
I want to see more cars that are either regular or unorthodox ones like a bus or something
Can we see will it rally on early 2000 Suzuki GV or even XL7?
jeeps should scare the crap out of you. Good job!
Looks like the scariest "lap" yet.
The list of dash lights after killing nanny mode was awesome! That's the "These are my people, I need to hit subscribe" moment right there!
Hold down the traction control button for 9 seconds and it will turn off the stability system
Can confirm, my jku will rally!
Any chance of seeing an XJ Cherokee running this course?
Stability control can be deactivated by holding down the traction control button for ten seconds.
Do a crown vic
i drive like this every day i can.. had no idea people can do it for a living, where do i sign up!
how about an XJ lap to compare to the JL
how did you feel about the BFG a/t tires performance? Its one of the few i can get in a 33x10.5r15 and I dont live on the ice coast so I dont need a full on snow/ice tire
For an AT tire, they're great, especially when they're pretty new and in good condition. Are they as good as a studded winter tire? Obviously not, but they're definitely "good enough" to get around just fine unless it's really icy, or once they're half-worn they can be a little sketchy.
Y'all should rally a smaller crossover, a V6 RAV4 would be so interesting to see
The best things to do with Jeep Wranglers is to wire a kill switch that disconnects the gyro sensors which then disables the ABS and the traction control or to pay for something like a taser JL which allows you to lock the diffs and turn off stability control completely whenever you want.
So ABS, traction control and stability control… is there a point? My 95 Subaru doesn’t have them but it does have 50/50 awd. Are these electronic stability programs useful? Is it just for repair costs or is it helpful. Maybe it’s helpful if a vehicle isn’t awd.
I really enjoyed the Dodge Charger video. I would like to see a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor on here. Seriously underpowered for the weight but would make for some good video. Make sure the limited slip diff is still good lol.
My chief complaint with my fake jeep is the suspension is way too soft. Maybe tighten the rebound and compression way up, but that option is not available unless you go for fox.
Finally! The wait is over.
amazing beautiful country, but does it EVER stop snowing where you are? Australia wants to know..
heheheheh.... "with any luck, we'll have NO abs and NO stability control..." ...
You can disable both stability and traction control by holding the traction control button for 5 seconds (aka "full off"). Although it will automatically go to "partial off" if you take the vehicle over a threshold speed (which isn't specified in the manual). If the vehicle has off-road+ button this will disable threshold speed, but off-road+ is only available in 4WD Hi and Lo. Off-road+ mode work differently for 4WD Hi and 4WD Lo.
Judging by how scared he looked a times, I think I would have crashed within the first 30 seconds even at moderate speeds.
@Team O’Neill Rally School, for one of your future videos, would you try to rally an 2009-2016 Audi A4/S4 B8 chassis? This is the last American manual transmission Audi. The electric hand brake and sport diff have me curious of your thoughts.
On a JK you could shut off traction control by pressing and holding the ESC button for something like 6 seconds in 4hi. The dash should then flash “ESC Off”. Maybe works the same on the JL?
"Your breaking the car samir! Samir!!"
Like if you know where thats from ;)
U have greate skills!
Wondering....has there ever been any wrecks here with injuries? I'd love to have a place like this just for me....find 100 acres..cut in a track and have fun...
No it's not a WRX with studded tires... but it's still capable and definitely one of the coolest looking vehicles flying through the woods with some speed. Good driving, especially this big of a vehicle.
Tacoma rallies better but maybe better tires would help the JEEP. Studded winter tires would make a better time lap.
So... Which instructor is best at teaching how to get pinch marks out of seats? That jeep definitely has some "Wyatt butt clench designs" in it! Trade Mark it!
I want to see Tesla time
When you will bring the Toyota Tacoma On this winter weather
My Dad put his 89 bronco on a scale with nothing but him and it weighed in at 5,100 lbs kind of crazy when you think about it
Great video! How about testing an AEV equipped Hemi JK Wrangler.
Next on will it rally.... a V8 cab over Isuzu (with a box or without, either way it’d be awesome)
I don't know how you did it.. those wranglers (although those new ones are slightly better) are scary when it's dry and 70 degrees out.
This is best what possible to do with Jeep Wrangler. Greate rally! Greate skill! U deserve more views!
He should have used a jeep liberty kk because they have independent front suspension lol
You should do an FJ cruiser just for comparison sake
That one's got independent front end
Just saw this video was 3yrs old, bet those rockers on the 3.6 have grenaded the heads at least once since
Yet ram has been making power wagons with everything jeep has but better and cheaper. With an v8
The solid front axel point was very informative, thank you
Why didn’t you just hold the traction control button for 5 second and the stability control shuts off?
Its dumb to compare to other cars that are equipped with snow tires, either do off the dealer show room floor tires or every vehicle has the same type of snow tire that is the same size as stock
you are good at driving,but bad at skiing...🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
can you guys do a will it rally on a 2007 toyota rav4 2.0 liter? i want to see how it fairs haha
You guys MUST do it with an FJ CRUISER
Now....put the fuses back in and do it again....that looks like a blast...
do a ford bronco!
which mutitool do you use ?
Leatherman Wave
Will it rally Chevy k5blazer or any blazer except the new one
wow dude this guy has a hot topic belt with a leatherman on it!!! lmao
Why not just hold the traction button for 10 seconds?
woo hoo! $40k American joke rallying like a crappy car should. You go, Jeep! I'll stick to anything but damnler-crapler motors for anything I want to do (not die in a car/drive better/do a corner well/have a life/not spend a ton on a piece of shit/not be a moron)
but still, love the channel. Keep rallying cars. And keep showing how Chrysler cars are a fucking joke.
They should put the Hemi in the Wrangler!
I like this tests very much. Really interesting.
The Bronco is going to do this out of the box with no warnings 🤩😎
fca crap had a jk the 3.6 is pure crap had it 3 years cost on repairs over $10.000 now i have a real jeep with a v8 and 500$ for dena 60s with lockers 1200$ off a ford all for less than the $10.000. now on my cj7 and no repairs in 2 years and over 30.000 miles off road dirt everyday the 3.6 is pure crap
Hey everyone, this guy has REAL Jeep. See? Nobody cares.
He! What about a volkswagen touareg tdi ? Will it rally? By the way your channel is awsome , i learn a lot and the will it rally series ... men ... i lovin’ it
Keep up the good work
Thanks Bill!
Funny all you needed to do to get trac and Stability control off is hold down the traction control bottom down for 15 seconds and it’s off... this Jeeps electronic are probably fucked after this video 😂
It all went back together and works just fine.
Great channel! Always good info 👍
Thanks Chase! This one was a lot of fun.