Same thing happened to me when I read the book. It changed me, met my perception and I was an immediate convert. My wife, who won the best teacher award for Rio de Janeiro, is a great admirer, as are most Brazilians. He was a true warrior, fought the system, changed conceptions, listened, and changed lives - still is. A wonderful leader for social justice.
Yep, convert is the right word. In the marxian faith, man becomes their own God and takes the place of creator by spreading the marxian dialectic way of thinking, to convince everyone that it is their moral duty to change, transform, and dismantle the existing society and every stabilizing structure of identity and family, to provide institutions better control over how people live, work, and even think. It doesn't seem to matter how many people starve or how many corpses of innocent people pile up, you will always say that the theory "needs updated" instead of admitting that the theory is wrong.
Giroux, McLaren and Paulo Freire changed my life. I've told Giroux this myself when I met with him 4 years ago at Penn. This is an important interview, but the work to change people is in the crafting of important lessons, like the one I included above. peace
While critical pedagogy aims to challenge traditional educational practices and promote social justice, it often falls short in several key areas. Firstly, its overemphasis on power dynamics and oppression can lead to an overly politicized classroom environment, where education becomes a platform for advancing ideological agendas rather than fostering genuine learning and critical thinking. This can result in a biased presentation of information and stifled intellectual diversity. Secondly, critical pedagogy's focus on group identity and collective rights may overshadow the importance of individual agency and responsibility. By framing educational experiences primarily in terms of oppressor-oppressed dichotomies, critical pedagogy risks perpetuating a victim mentality among students and inhibiting their ability to develop resilience and problem-solving skills. Thirdly, the rejection of objective truth and promotion of subjective perspectives in critical pedagogy can undermine academic rigor and scholarly inquiry. By prioritizing personal experiences and subjective interpretations over empirical evidence and logical reasoning, critical pedagogy may hinder students' ability to engage critically with complex issues and develop a nuanced understanding of the world. Furthermore, critical pedagogy's tendency to prioritize social justice outcomes over educational outcomes may result in a neglect of academic standards and essential skills development. While it is important to address social inequalities within education, this should not come at the expense of academic excellence and the cultivation of essential competencies needed for success in various fields. Lastly, critical pedagogy's promotion of dialogue and collaboration among students and educators may inadvertently suppress dissenting voices and alternative perspectives. In an environment where certain viewpoints are privileged over others based on their alignment with critical pedagogical principles, genuine intellectual exchange and open-minded inquiry may be stifled.
This is a good primer for Freire's work. The lessons of critical pedagogy are most needed in the sectors of society that have the most 'education' in the conventional sense. Obviously everyone needs criticality of thought. But to me, it seems most necessary by those who have been brainwashed and propagandized the most. In my society, the United States, that is the white middle/upper middle class citizen. How can we implement these lessons where they are needed? How do we reach them?
What middle class it's almost gone and then it is also the undereducated that wasn't taught to look up things and Henry brings up something important that it used to be we talked about politics and we used to help each other. Then there is the religious thinker of the far right.
Are you still a believer in this marxian faith, and a supporter of freire's method for introducing privillage/oppression dynamics into children's education in order to dismantle every stabilizing structure of identity, family, tradition and anything that sustains the existing society? Do you feel liberated yet, or do you need to see every imperfect structure and every principled person burn before you will be satisfied?
all six videos were fantastic! this conversation itself is a brilliant example of the work theory can do within an electronic and democratic public space. this project (which i would describe as a perfect example of praxis) has the potential of expanding the scope of critical pedagogy to a wider audience. thank you so much Dr. Giroux and Dr. Kincheloe.
Are you still a believer in this marxian faith, and a supporter of freire's method for introducing privillage/oppression dynamics into children's education in order to dismantle every stabilizing structure of identity, family, tradition and society? Do you feel liberated yet, or do you need to see every imperfect structure and every principled person burn before you will be satisfied?
@@gnostic-wolf Strange to see this. That was over a decade ago. Don’t know why this comment thread is still going on. I’m definitely not a Marxist. I do notice that most people speaking in favor of the video are talking about ideas, while others seem to focus more on name calling and ‘boogie-man’ terms (where in the world did you get the term “Marxian faith”??? I suppose an actual dialog would be better for both of us.
@@criticaljunkie who called you names? I'm going to assume your answer is: yes, you still believe in the marxian faith of critical pedagogy, and you still desire to institute abusive educational programs in schools to turn everyone's children into change agents for your destructive ideology, while proclaiming that you are actually just deprogramming them from the already "opressive dominant ideology," in order to sublate western societies, to abolish every stabalizing tradition, preaching through praxis, thumping your grievance gospels, and believing that it is all for the greater good.
Maybe that was unfair of me. You weren't directly calling me names. But you are spending a lot of time "telling me what I am and how it is". I guess genuine dialog is a bit hard to come by in the interwebs these days. Truth is, you may very well be a bot (in that case, I guess the joke is on me). If you're not a bot, well, I'm glad my 13 year old post gave you a chance practice some of your memes and to feel some 'righteous anger'.
@@criticaljunkie 😄 I spent zero time "telling you what you are or how it is." I simply asked if you still believed in the marxian faith preached by Henry Giroux, and Paulo Freire's methods for communist indoctrination through education. Your response has been: 1. Talking about how old the comment was. (Yeah, that was the point of asking the question in the first place.)😋 2. Saying: "I am definitely not a marxist." (You surely must be aware that the very terms you are using "the work Theory can do, praxis, critical pedagogy," these terms have come directly from Marxism and neo-marxism as it has evolved away from the singular paradigm of economic class, to be applied across every possible domain of identity and tied together through intersectionality. Every critical theory, of sex, race, education status, ability status, and so on, simply applies the marxist framework to a different identitarian domain. If you are a proponent of critical theory, it is misleading to say that you are not a marxist, since Theory operates in a dialectic framework identical to the marxist framework, simply layering economic privilege beneath other domains of privilege.) 3. Next, you just start talking generally about people who like the video in a positive light, and then creating a negative stereotype of "name-calling" people who are the "others." (Basically putting me into a camp with the bad "others" without ever addressing my question at all, which is a very communist thing to do, by the way.) 😳 You claim to want a dialog, while never actually saying anything, just diverting, obfuscating, and "other"-ing me. You did not address the question, so I made up an answer for you. Now you just accuse me of not even being human, and attempt to demean and invalidate me with, "I'm glad you get to practice your memes and feel some 'rightious anger.' 🤖 You don't actually seem to want a dialog, since all you employ is crybully tactics, insulting, demeaning, invalidating and other- ing, without ever providing any substantive answer to the original question, or any explanation as to why you do or do not still believe in "the work Theory can do." 😴 You never had to respond in the first place, but the way that you have has been just as petty and arrogant as you would expect from someone who subscribes to Theory. I suppose the answer to my question was evident right from the start. 🤗
Same thing happened to me when I read the book. It changed me, met my perception and I was an immediate convert. My wife, who won the best teacher award for Rio de Janeiro, is a great admirer, as are most Brazilians. He was a true warrior, fought the system, changed conceptions, listened, and changed lives - still is. A wonderful leader for social justice.
This reminds me if that old quote, "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything." Critical Pedagogy is a destructive communist mode.
Yep, convert is the right word. In the marxian faith, man becomes their own God and takes the place of creator by spreading the marxian dialectic way of thinking, to convince everyone that it is their moral duty to change, transform, and dismantle the existing society and every stabilizing structure of identity and family, to provide institutions better control over how people live, work, and even think. It doesn't seem to matter how many people starve or how many corpses of innocent people pile up, you will always say that the theory "needs updated" instead of admitting that the theory is wrong.
Cheer~~the method and practice of teaching, especially as an academic subject or theoretical concept.😊
Giroux, McLaren and Paulo Freire changed my life. I've told Giroux this myself when I met with him 4 years ago at Penn. This is an important interview, but the work to change people is in the crafting of important lessons, like the one I included above.
peace
Simply excellent. Will go across and watch the full video.
What an inspiration!
While critical pedagogy aims to challenge traditional educational practices and promote social justice, it often falls short in several key areas. Firstly, its overemphasis on power dynamics and oppression can lead to an overly politicized classroom environment, where education becomes a platform for advancing ideological agendas rather than fostering genuine learning and critical thinking. This can result in a biased presentation of information and stifled intellectual diversity.
Secondly, critical pedagogy's focus on group identity and collective rights may overshadow the importance of individual agency and responsibility. By framing educational experiences primarily in terms of oppressor-oppressed dichotomies, critical pedagogy risks perpetuating a victim mentality among students and inhibiting their ability to develop resilience and problem-solving skills.
Thirdly, the rejection of objective truth and promotion of subjective perspectives in critical pedagogy can undermine academic rigor and scholarly inquiry. By prioritizing personal experiences and subjective interpretations over empirical evidence and logical reasoning, critical pedagogy may hinder students' ability to engage critically with complex issues and develop a nuanced understanding of the world.
Furthermore, critical pedagogy's tendency to prioritize social justice outcomes over educational outcomes may result in a neglect of academic standards and essential skills development. While it is important to address social inequalities within education, this should not come at the expense of academic excellence and the cultivation of essential competencies needed for success in various fields.
Lastly, critical pedagogy's promotion of dialogue and collaboration among students and educators may inadvertently suppress dissenting voices and alternative perspectives. In an environment where certain viewpoints are privileged over others based on their alignment with critical pedagogical principles, genuine intellectual exchange and open-minded inquiry may be stifled.
This is a good primer for Freire's work.
The lessons of critical pedagogy are most needed in the sectors of society that have the most 'education' in the conventional sense. Obviously everyone needs criticality of thought. But to me, it seems most necessary by those who have been brainwashed and propagandized the most. In my society, the United States, that is the white middle/upper middle class citizen. How can we implement these lessons where they are needed?
How do we reach them?
What middle class it's almost gone and then it is also the undereducated that wasn't taught to look up things and Henry brings up something important that it used to be we talked about politics and we used to help each other. Then there is the religious thinker of the far right.
Are you still a believer in this marxian faith, and a supporter of freire's method for introducing privillage/oppression dynamics into children's education in order to dismantle every stabilizing structure of identity, family, tradition and anything that sustains the existing society? Do you feel liberated yet, or do you need to see every imperfect structure and every principled person burn before you will be satisfied?
it's remarkable that Giroux managed to last more than a semester at Miami University, Ohio. he must have bit his tongue rather hard all day.
full vid not online anymore...?
all six videos were fantastic! this conversation itself is a brilliant example of the work theory can do within an electronic and democratic public space. this project (which i would describe as a perfect example of praxis) has the potential of expanding the scope of critical pedagogy to a wider audience. thank you so much Dr. Giroux and Dr. Kincheloe.
Are you still a believer in this marxian faith, and a supporter of freire's method for introducing privillage/oppression dynamics into children's education in order to dismantle every stabilizing structure of identity, family, tradition and society? Do you feel liberated yet, or do you need to see every imperfect structure and every principled person burn before you will be satisfied?
@@gnostic-wolf Strange to see this. That was over a decade ago. Don’t know why this comment thread is still going on. I’m definitely not a Marxist. I do notice that most people speaking in favor of the video are talking about ideas, while others seem to focus more on name calling and ‘boogie-man’ terms (where in the world did you get the term “Marxian faith”??? I suppose an actual dialog would be better for both of us.
@@criticaljunkie who called you names? I'm going to assume your answer is: yes, you still believe in the marxian faith of critical pedagogy, and you still desire to institute abusive educational programs in schools to turn everyone's children into change agents for your destructive ideology, while proclaiming that you are actually just deprogramming them from the already "opressive dominant ideology," in order to sublate western societies, to abolish every stabalizing tradition, preaching through praxis, thumping your grievance gospels, and believing that it is all for the greater good.
Maybe that was unfair of me. You weren't directly calling me names. But you are spending a lot of time "telling me what I am and how it is". I guess genuine dialog is a bit hard to come by in the interwebs these days. Truth is, you may very well be a bot (in that case, I guess the joke is on me). If you're not a bot, well, I'm glad my 13 year old post gave you a chance practice some of your memes and to feel some 'righteous anger'.
@@criticaljunkie 😄 I spent zero time "telling you what you are or how it is." I simply asked if you still believed in the marxian faith preached by Henry Giroux, and Paulo Freire's methods for communist indoctrination through education. Your response has been:
1. Talking about how old the comment was.
(Yeah, that was the point of asking the question in the first place.)😋
2. Saying: "I am definitely not a marxist."
(You surely must be aware that the very terms you are using "the work Theory can do, praxis, critical pedagogy," these terms have come directly from Marxism and neo-marxism as it has evolved away from the singular paradigm of economic class, to be applied across every possible domain of identity and tied together through intersectionality. Every critical theory, of sex, race, education status, ability status, and so on, simply applies the marxist framework to a different identitarian domain. If you are a proponent of critical theory, it is misleading to say that you are not a marxist, since Theory operates in a dialectic framework identical to the marxist framework, simply layering economic privilege beneath other domains of privilege.)
3. Next, you just start talking generally about people who like the video in a positive light, and then creating a negative stereotype of "name-calling" people who are the "others." (Basically putting me into a camp with the bad "others" without ever addressing my question at all, which is a very communist thing to do, by the way.) 😳
You claim to want a dialog, while never actually saying anything, just diverting, obfuscating, and "other"-ing me. You did not address the question, so I made up an answer for you. Now you just accuse me of not even being human, and attempt to demean and invalidate me with, "I'm glad you get to practice your memes and feel some 'rightious anger.' 🤖
You don't actually seem to want a dialog, since all you employ is crybully tactics, insulting, demeaning, invalidating and other- ing, without ever providing any substantive answer to the original question, or any explanation as to why you do or do not still believe in "the work Theory can do." 😴
You never had to respond in the first place, but the way that you have has been just as petty and arrogant as you would expect from someone who subscribes to Theory. I suppose the answer to my question was evident right from the start. 🤗
Nice.
How to contact Giroux?
www.henryagiroux.com/about
contact details at bottom of page
where can we watch the rest?
Hi, anyone would do the kindness to translate it for portuguese? Thank you so much. :)
Says it all but I am restrained in the education system, square peg in a round hole trying to break out
IN SPANISH, PLEASE, BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW MORE!!!
subtitulos, please
Was hitching CP to critical theory a good idea?
For Who?
There's no way to separate the two..
Watching the schools built on these theories fail a generation of children is terrifying.