NATHAN VAPORAIR HYDRATION PACK REVIEW | The Ginger Runner
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I think it's about time I reviewed a product from Nathan! They have been manufacturing hydration packs for a number of years now and I know many people that swear by their comfort and durability. After getting a number of products from them, I put the VaporAir through the gauntlet and really enjoyed what I experienced.
First of all, STRETCHY STRAPS! This is one of the ONLY packs I've reviewed other than the Salomon packs that utilizes chest and sternum straps with elastic properties. Seriously, how do more companies NOT USE THIS?! Love them. There are also a TON of awesome pockets that are easily accessible and stretchy to accommodate tons of gear/nutrition/electronics/etc.
Really the major issues are with sizing (I just couldn't get the S/M or L/XL to fit me properly), and some mall details with attachments and straps. The pole straps not working with most poles and some of the loose adjustment straps being located right along the neck/ear/head area is annoying. Other than that, the Vapor Air is a solid, more minimal vest from Nathan worth checking out. (it also COMES with a 2L bladder and 2 small bottles - pretty nice perk!).
Let me know what you think in the comments below!
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I'd love to see an updated review with the 2.0 version
A good suggestion for slapping straps that I learned from a friend in the military was that after finding the right fit for the pack then folding the straps to about a few centimeters and the using electrical tape around the folded part. That way there is less loose straps that slap and flop around and when you want you can always remove the tape and adjust the straps as you wish. Yes it may sound like a hassle but it only takes a few minutes and you're good
Yes! I've been waiting for this review for quite a while
Thank you for the review, currently looking at a new hydration pack.
I had just heard of this pack today when I found your brand new review of it.
Would love to see a Shadow VS Airess review.
Thank you for taking the time to do these. Your camel back Marathoner review solidified my feeling those weren't the right ones for me. No stores carry these nearby so reviews really help.
I run with this and I've had the same issues with chaffing on the neck and flappy flaps (somewhat minimised now with some strategic tying and hooking). Probably due to me having the s/m size quite tight like you. Feels like it needs some real fiddling/customisation to get it comfortable.
But it's served me well on my long runs, holds plenty of Clif Bars, bloks and gels, occasionally a jacket for weather changes, plus a bathroom kit!
Awesome beard and keep up the great work, loving Canterbury!
I'm a fan of Nathan products. Been running with the Intensity for over a year and I really like their hand-held bottles as well. I am impressed with all the pockets on this, but would definitely need to have adjustable sides. Nice review as always!
Great review Ethan!
I love this pac, I did modify straps but the versatility of setups covers any run situation.
Love the face Ethan makes when talking about his "bathroom kit"! I have a "bathroom kit" that I keep stashed in my Ultimate Direction AK vest. I'm sure we all have these kits. Love running, running is a big part of my life, but those darn unexpected, uncontrollable washroom breaks sure can be a bummer at times, (pun intended) that's for sure.
There are little rings on the trekking pole hooks to hook on when you are not using them. This allows them to not flop around whenever you are running. I usually just run the straps from the shoulder straps under the loops on the shoulder and this usually helps them from flopping around. Sizing was a huge issue for me as well. I have a S/M now and was almost considering getting the XS if it wasn't for the neck issue. I had that as well but I just put on some body glide on my neck and I'm good to go. Thanks for the review!!! Keep up the awesome material!!
Great review! I've used mine for 2 years now for 50M and 100Ks and love it. Nice tip on putting a bottle in the vertical pocket - never thought of that! Esp perfect if one goes empty a few miles before an A/S. thx!
I have the airress. Love it. I have one other smaller Nathan pack and this one is almost the same weight. I agree, if you could cinch the sides that would be better. I have the telescoping poles to the pole straps worked ok for me. I'm not the smallest framed lady out there and I wear the sm/med. I've heard some tiny ladies complain about the sizing as well. If you aren't tiny and have telescoping poles, it's a pretty good pack though. I thought I might get sweaty back with the materials, but it feels pretty light and breathable for at least 50 miles.
I've been using the vapor air for about 8 or 9 months. It's the only hydration pack I've used, so I don't know how it compares. I mostly bought it because it was really light, but I can fit everything I need for a long run. I don't care too much for really poppy colors, so I thought the looks were pretty cool. My only real issue is with the sizing, but not to the point where I chaffe. When I first bought the pack it had a defective mouthpiece, but they sent me a new one right away, so good customer service.
+Sean Heslin great feedback!
Slappy straps! I haven't tried any of these newer packs from Nathan, but that's what scares me about them. I see images/video of people running in them and all I see are straps! Slappy straps bouncing around everywhere! Another great review, Ethan.
Great review thanks! Have you revived the Ultimate Direction SJ Ultra Vest 3.0?
I have this pack. I've been liking it. Main drawback is what you noted with neck chafing.
great entertaining review!
I contemplated getting one of those Zephyr flashlights last year but they're like $50. Ended up getting a super bright no-name led flash light off ebay for like $12. Granted doesn't have the cool angled thing going for it. But it gets the job done for those fall night runs.
The beards looking great!
So which vest is the most perfect? I seen many but many have their pros and cons. Which one is the most useable and best of all?
The vapor air is my first running pack. I love it! However, I have some of the same problems with it. I have to roll the excess on the chest straps to prevent them from slapping and I use the hooks on the straps on the upper back to stop them from bouncing.
The main strap I have to tighten almost as much as possible or it begins to bounce as the bladder empties. I tuck the excess on that into the pouch with the bladder.
My biggest complaint delves a little deeper into the sizing issue. I have to make sure it's super tight so it doesn't bounce. Trying to wear it without the bladder and bottles in the front so I'd have extra storage for layers, etc. its a beating because it's impossible to tighten it or adjust it so that the bottles don't bounce.
Easy to wash, comfortable, and lightweight. Chafing issues that you talked about it the video plus a little bounce in certain situations.
Will get the UD SJ vest next. Vapor air was more than I needed for my first 50 miler this month.
I've been wearing this pack for about seven months and ran with it at Leona this year (50-miler). I like it, but I have the exact same issue with the neck chafing. I've taken to either wearing a buff around my neck to avoid the chafing or just greasing myself up with body glide before I go out. Not the best solution, but it works for now. My issue with a comparable Salomon is that it cost nearly $200 but the bladder was extra. Bleurgh.
Hey man, where can we find your bracelets? I gotta say, they look pretty cool!
Great review Ethan, 1 question. This is my 1st hydration pack and with all the air removed from the bladder, how much noise should I expect from the vest while running ? I've tried a few adjustments and have managed to lower it somewhat but I still get a noticeable amount of noise. Maybe this is normal but I'm interested in what noise you get from your pack.
Any of you watching this video ever consider the CamelBak Delta 5 vest? They were discontinue some years back but you can still find new unused ones.
HI , Love you reviews, thanks . you mentioned the sizing, and the bag you tested was a S/M , you said that if your bring the chest straps to tight you get the neck issue, if you had tested a XS , would this have fiixed those issues?, I have seen some reviews that the recommended sizing asks for a S/M , however they ended up buying an XS , would you have fitted an XS? and would have it dealt with some of the sizing issues you had?
Your comments would be appricaited, Thanks
I have been using the Vapourairess for the past 9 months. Sizing is an issue. I had to send the s/m back and get an XS which fits better. I like all the storage pockets but have noticed those pole straps bouncing around lately. Other than that , I like it. I haven't had any chafing issues which is nice.
Have you had any experience with UltrAspire packs? I'm loving the Velocity atm. Would love to see a review!!!
Ohhhh the alarm on the light may help distract or scare away bears or mountain lions.... Or attract them to a snack.... But the flash light is cool!
Hey GR what do you think of the nathan vaporzach hydration vest? Good , bad ?
Consider to review the compressport ultrun, Ethan.
Hi Ethan, do you test the CamelBak Marathoner and Ultra 10? to compare them to other brands. Thanks for your videos! :)
Nice review, though I will stick with my original UD SJ vest
The beard is a thing of beauty. America needs a beard like yours. Don't let your country down.
Help! I have this pack. How, HOW do I keep the looooooooong hydration hose from bouncing around?! I've tried stuffing it in the back pouch. (I comes out and then bounces.) I've weaving it under the 2 clicks (for poles?). It comes out. How do I short and from bouncing?
YO! do you ever wear a hydration belt? When I am running sub 30k, I don't need a vest, but don't like holding a water bottle. In the market for a belt I think... Thoughts?
Any issues with the charging port on the Zephyr light? The Amazon reviews are very worrisome.
curious on folks that used that handheld light. seems like you would have wicked bounced light beam, isn't it distracting?
Very useful, thanks.
The one thing that worries me more is the lack of side straps. Pity, since I do not need something as big as the VaporCloud...
I like this pack for training runs. Needs some tweaks such as collar area rubs where hose comes out the top. I had a "small/med" and at 180 lbs it fit....until I filled the bladder, went up a size and now it is a tad too big. Nice pack but I think for the price I could have done better... Maybe?
good review
Is that a lifestraw behind you? Be interested to hear your thoughts on that if so...
when is a Fresh Foam Zante v2 review coming?
Im 5'9 150 chest 38 inches, what size of the vapor air shall i go with?
The Nathan firecatcher chaffed my neck like crazy. It looked I was making out with a vampire after a long run
would you consider reviewing Ultraspire packs/vests? I would like to hear your opinion on them!
Been using this pack for over a year! Does the job! Keeps me happy on the road!
What is the "bottle that you prefer to use"?
I noticed that Sage is now running with a Nathan vest. Interesting that you also did your first review of them - they must be making some targeted inroads here to new people. Previously I had never heard of them and they sound kinda OK.
+TheMoonSeesMe Sage has been sponsored by Nathan for a while now. So is Rob Krar.
I think he changes the sponsor for one 2-3 months as he switched to Nathan in last 2 to 3 videos. So cute to see Sage at UD print ad on local running magazine. Also he is still at the tag of UD groove belt.
Overall i liked the pack sizing for me was a major issue. I agree totally with your review dislikes had exactly the same issue. Straps are sloppy. I like the overall design and pockets are great they just need to work on sizing.
Have been using the pack for about a year and my experience is exactly the same as yours.
I just returned the female version. Sizing issues (too short in torso) and also don't like the windbreaker like material. Pockets were great though. Ethan will you be doing any of the new UDs?
+Lacy Jinks that's the plan!
Hey Ethan! What's your opinion about the Nathan VaporCloud model??
+Hermano Almeida as I mention, I haven't tried it, though it might fit me better
So you mentioned that you were wearing the S/M, can you provide a reference of your size. At 5'11" and 185lbs with a 42" chest, I'm leaning towards the L/XL based on sizing specs but now worrying that might be too large. I want to make sure that it fits tight and there is no bounce. Thoughts??
Did you end up getting this pack? What size did you go with and do you like it? I am 6’ 200 with a 44” chest. I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
Took me a while to find the right hydration pack for me (bigger chest, short torso); tried about 8 different brands/styles, but once I got the vapor air on I haven't looked back. I love this pack. I wore it on every training run, over 1,200 miles, from Dec through May in Iowa and always had what I needed; fuel, water, layers. I ran my first 50 miler with it 2 weeks ago and re-confirmed that I found the right pack for me. Layers (it snowed in May in Wisconsin - go figure), fuel (some things my body craved they didn't have at the aid stations) and tons of water (the humidity was still like 85% which meant very sweaty still). The pack is very light and breathable with so much storage yet doesn't become bulky or heavy. The bladder is very easy to fill on the go and I never lack for storage space. It was a bit pricey but I'm definitely getting my money's worth. I did have to do some 'lock down' adjustments on some of the straps as I agree they become annoying, but once I did those slight modifications I've had no issues as the pack maintains a lot of the elasticity so what adjustment I may have taken away in strap modifications, I still get with the packs ability to flex. Great review, thanks for the info!!
What were your lock down adjustments? I'm pretty sure that we ran the same race if you are talking about the Ice Age 50 a couple of weeks ago. Yeah... the snow was odd for sure. :-) Thanks for the feedback!
+Matt Anfang I did run ice age 50! My lock down adjustment were basically me getting all the straps where I wanted them and tight'ish. Cutting them off and duct taping them down or in place so they wouldn't flop
Awesome, thanks I may have to do the same. Are you also running the KM100 upcoming ultra? A lot of people use this Ice Age 50 as a training run.
some day i want to do 100, i'm not there yet. 6 months of training to get to the 50 miler at ice age...one step at a time
I only run 12 miles a week so I think you'd be fine in regards to the training. The overnight running is probably the hardest for people. The body shuts down so caffeine intake is critical. It's definitely worth a try one of these years. :-)
Probably the most random question you will ever get but.... Where did you get those picture frames for your finisher medals?
Nice review Ethan! I´m 80kg, almost 100 cm of chest. I´m in doubt between Nathan Vapor Cloud (I know you haven´t reviewed) and Camelbak Ultra 4 for my long races. By your review on both brands, what do you think would fit better on me?
Adding on, as I run in Rio de Janeiro, often over 32°C , having the cooling system Vapor Cloud informs has it would make some difference, however the sizing might be an issue.
which one did you buy and what was the size? I am 70KG 100cm cheat
Question. Is this different than the VaporCloud? Thanks for a thorough review!!
I bought the vapor cloud about a month ago. It has the adjustable waist straps that he mentioned were absent on the vapor air and it has more storage area in the back of the pack. I got it for $100 on backcountry.com and that included the hydration bladder.
Vaporcloud is a bigger pack. this one is 7L and Cloud is over 10L.
Mormon bear hey lol!your video are the best!
Ethan can rock a beard.
Totally agree with all the points. I am a small runner, around 135 lbs and have a small/medium and have the same issues with fit. It's a shame because it's well built vest.
+John De Martin yeah, if the S/M doesn't fit me (185lbs) it definitely won't fit anyone smaller!
Would it help if you chose the XS size? I'd like to know what you think as I'm about the same size as you and seriously considering buying one.
I have NO business being in an XS!
Haha. Ques was for +John De Martin
Can you tell us what your current go to running pack is?
He runs in salomon.
Seems still using S-Lab right?
+taumax yup, still use the Salomon 5L. My go-to pack currently.
Bought this pack and used it for 6 months. I faced the same problems also. The pack is stretchy which is good. However it is too stretchy especially at the side pocket area. Make the pack quite bouncy when run.
Also, if you run with bottle in front pocket (no water bladder at back)the pack will move forward. That's why I always put one more bottle at the back to level up the weight.
+Alan Li exactly why I did it too.
+TheGingerRunner is quite difficult to select the appropriate material (stretchy but not too stretchy)to solve this issue.
Seems UD 3.0 is solving this issue. They still use stiff stripe but the white fabric of the pack body provide a bit flexibility compared with the hexagon fabric at 2.0
When will u put the 3.0 review online?
I am still waiting for my review sample then I have to train/race with it.
Can't wait!
Any update on the UD 3.0 review samples? My Jurek FKT arrived and the initial fit is leaps and bounds better than the AK 2.0. Can't wait to get it out for a test ride. Plus the bottles conform to my chest like the soft flasks BUT also have a large opening for pouring in powders (and getting the tops off) like the hard bottles.
The VaporAir pack just arrived in the mail on Friday when this review posted to UA-cam. I am using it for the first time on Saturday for a long run for training for my first marathon.
Where are the Under Armour shoes? They've put out a lot of great runners lately that I feel deserve a review.
Are,you based in washington
Nice beard brah
heh.. nice Pliny product placement..
Update this with the new2.0
What up with your eyes dude? You OK?
Ethan, sorry bro. Could you remake this video without the beard? Super distracting.
+Devin Murphy It's gone once I finish tomorrow's 50 miler.
+TheGingerRunner LOL I was kidding. I'm no stranger to the shave-after-the-race-beard.