I feel like the reason why Han's freezing was so dangerous was because Cloud City carbon freezing facility was only used for freezing Tibanna gas for safe transportation, not for freezing people. If it was a facility meant for freezing people, like the one used on Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka (bad girl), and the clones, no test freeze would've been needed, i.e. Han
that is exactly why it was so dangerous. Lando even says as much when Vader says they are going to use it. He says that the machine is only meant for industrial use.
It was also a very backward process that was done by the ancient civilizations of the core during the early exploration and expansion of the old republic! This would be like going back to a method used by our ancient ancestors that we no longer perform anymore due to high medical risks!
not really. ever wonder why a lot of science fictions stories used freezing to travel in space from not only world to world in the solar system but to other star systems in the 1950s? this is because research on freezing solid small animals then using a microwave to heat them up to bring them back to life. it was thought at the time it would be a simple matter to scale it up to humans but it turns out the size of animals bigger then hamsters had ice crystals form in the cells causing them to burst during the freezing process. so you would if lucky wake up severely brain damaged rather then dead because of the damage that would occurred to your organs. if you think I am messing with you look up the video "I promise this story about microwaves is interesting." from the channel Tom Scott
You forgot to mention Boba Fetts’ Wife in the legends timeline, she got frozen in carbonate for 30 years, and when he found her and unfroze her (when he was in his late 70’s) she had blindness, muscle problems, and memory problems. It also affected her sense of time, she was still the same physically, and hadn’t aged, and as far as she knew she had only been under for mere moments.
9:48 I think the risk more so appears with shoddy construction of the freezing chamber, as Vader even says “This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker.” I’d say it’s why Anakin and Obi-Wan went ahead with freezing their team since their freezing chamber was more up to date.
Vader may have had some adjustments made to the chamber based on his earlier experiences. He probably figured the chances of death were fairly low but wanted to test it just in case. Vader may have enjoyed it since Han was responsible for ending his defense of the Death Star. Then again, he had little interest in the others except as bait.
C-3PO: Oh, they've encased him in carbonite! He should be quite well protected. ...If he survived the freezing process that is. Chewie: RAWR! (Shut up!)
bobas fetts wife (in legends) was frozen in carbonite for decads, she did survive, but was blind for some time afther, but was healed by either a previous jedi or force sensetive clone that joined the mandeloriens. i think it was during the last book or the book before of the series where Jason solo falls to the dark side, (The book serie before the one featuring abeloth)
I remember in the original battlefront game (2004) when you enter the carbon freezing chamber if you walk to the center of the room were han was frozen you die instantly.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 from the 2nd? I was thinking of cloud City when u freeze enemies with that pipe u pull out of the ground or the canisters u throw at ppl
This is why cryo is queen. Honestly, Star Wars' lack of it even as a prison system sure feels off. Same for VR Matrix-style hibernation. Addendum: Surprised you didn't talk about Han Solo's unfortunate fate in the Infinities alternate timeline of Return of the Jedi. There, he was permanently blinded.
hey there, i have an video idea, it´s abou the "Bureau of Ships and Services". You have mentioned it in previous videos a couple of times, and from what you´ve told before, they sound like they are the most powerful organization in the Star Wars Universe. A summary video about their purpose, objectives, operations and maybe some speculation would be nice.
Is there any legends material that talks about the longest time spent frozen in Carbonite? What if one of those early space ships with a frozen crew got lost and was recovered thousands of years later. It would be crazy if you went to sleep during the ancient galaxy and woke up in the era of the clone wars or empire.
Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly DJ spinnin' I said, "My my" Flash is fast, Flash is cool François c'est pas, Flash ain't no dude And you don't stop, sure shot Go out to the parking lot And you get in your car and drive real far And you drive all night and then you see a light And it comes right down and it lands on the ground And out comes a man from Mars And you try to run but he's got a gun And he shoots you dead and he eats your head And then you're in the man from Mars You go out at night eatin' cars You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too Mercurys and Subaru And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars Then, when there's no more cars you go out at night And eat up bars where the people meet Face to face, dance cheek to cheek One to one, man to man Dance toe to toe, don't move too slow 'Cause the man from Mars is through with cars He's eatin' bars, yeah wall to wall Door to door, hall to hall He's gonna eat 'em all Rapture, be pure Take a tour through the sewer Don't strain your brain, paint a train You'll be singin' in the rain Said don't stop to punk rock
Ha, this comes at a good time as I've been writing a little fan-fic that involves people getting frozen in carbonite. One thing I couldn't pin down... is there a known smell that goes with carbonite? As for the rare side effect of instant death -- I wonder if it's like general anesthesia, and people with certain conditions or who were in a poor state of health beforehand were more likely to die?
Due to the risk, I guess this is why the Sith did not use it as a way of achieving immortal lives. But hey, it's not like Darth Sion's way was any better. Speaking of something related to the Force, which category Bendu is supposed to belong to between the Light and the Dark? Or is Bendu truly the one in the Middle?
It's not even immortality, it's just freezing urself, the most would happen is they stay the same and wake up at different time or even era but they'd still be the same mortal being so it's not viable at all. There was acc a sith army from the old Republic frozen in carbonite shown in star wars empire at war but the game never got another expansion to complete that plot so it went nowhere. Edit: at 2:39 u can see the image of the frozen army from the game
I support keeping rex and Cody at the citadel as rex and Cody worked best with the two jedi leading the team, however delta squad is still an excellent choice, save for the fact that there isn't much in the way of them actually working with any jedi directly. Probably why they chose regs instead of the CCs or even better still, clone force 99. That mission could've gone so much better with either one of those teams... but hey, they had arc troopers going so they DID have the next best thing when they went in
How ironic an funny.. an a middle finger from the Force to Vader been if he'd SUCCESSFULLY Locked Luke in Carbonite BUT Luke being a Powerful Jedi focused his abilities, remembered lessons or something etc, an broke out anyways.
It astounds me that the Jedi archives didn't have any frozen Sith. Seems like it would really fit the Jedi way, rather than killing their enemies. Obviously they wouldn't be able to capture many alive, but we're talking about tens of thousands of years; they'd definitely have amassed a decent Sithsicle collection.
It would only take one person with the knowledge of such collection and with bad intentions to thaw them all at once and then all hell would break loose.
Wasn't there also a jedi who was fozen in carbonite for tens of thousands of years and was conscious the whole time? Also, what happened to the other people Din Djarin had frozen in his cargo hold? Did he cash them in or did he just dgaf about them getting vaporized by the turbolaser?
Can you do a video commenting your opnion about how Dave Filoni developed the Jedi in clone wars as an institution that made big mistakes and if that deviated from what George Lucas developed the jedi to symbolically represent in history? Do you think this "subversion" ended up working and giving the story the depth it needed? Do you think that George Lucas already raised this question, but didn't develop it in the story of the Prequels because that wasn't the focus of the plot?
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I feel like the reason why Han's freezing was so dangerous was because Cloud City carbon freezing facility was only used for freezing Tibanna gas for safe transportation, not for freezing people. If it was a facility meant for freezing people, like the one used on Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka (bad girl), and the clones, no test freeze would've been needed, i.e. Han
that is exactly why it was so dangerous. Lando even says as much when Vader says they are going to use it. He says that the machine is only meant for industrial use.
Ashoka (bad girl)?
@@sirgalahad1376 I think he means she wasn't allowed to go on that mission. But it does sound a bit weird lol
@@seskal8595 you are correct. I should've said bad padawan. But we all know who she learned it from
It was also a very backward process that was done by the ancient civilizations of the core during the early exploration and expansion of the old republic! This would be like going back to a method used by our ancient ancestors that we no longer perform anymore due to high medical risks!
Man to have your bodily functions freeze/ stop yet still be alive takes crazy calculations.
not really. ever wonder why a lot of science fictions stories used freezing to travel in space from not only world to world in the solar system but to other star systems in the 1950s? this is because research on freezing solid small animals then using a microwave to heat them up to bring them back to life. it was thought at the time it would be a simple matter to scale it up to humans but it turns out the size of animals bigger then hamsters had ice crystals form in the cells causing them to burst during the freezing process. so you would if lucky wake up severely brain damaged rather then dead because of the damage that would occurred to your organs. if you think I am messing with you look up the video "I promise this story about microwaves is interesting." from the channel Tom Scott
Who would've thunk it?
Why do you think anesthesiologists spend just as much time in school as medical doctors?
@@homer6292sorry... sorry... ...sorryyy... sorry...
You forgot to mention Boba Fetts’ Wife in the legends timeline, she got frozen in carbonate for 30 years, and when he found her and unfroze her (when he was in his late 70’s) she had blindness, muscle problems, and memory problems. It also affected her sense of time, she was still the same physically, and hadn’t aged, and as far as she knew she had only been under for mere moments.
9:48 I think the risk more so appears with shoddy construction of the freezing chamber, as Vader even says “This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker.” I’d say it’s why Anakin and Obi-Wan went ahead with freezing their team since their freezing chamber was more up to date.
Vader may have had some adjustments made to the chamber based on his earlier experiences. He probably figured the chances of death were fairly low but wanted to test it just in case. Vader may have enjoyed it since Han was responsible for ending his defense of the Death Star. Then again, he had little interest in the others except as bait.
C-3PO: Oh, they've encased him in carbonite! He should be quite well protected. ...If he survived the freezing process that is.
Chewie: RAWR! (Shut up!)
bobas fetts wife (in legends) was frozen in carbonite for decads, she did survive, but was blind for some time afther, but was healed by either a previous jedi or force sensetive clone that joined the mandeloriens. i think it was during the last book or the book before of the series where Jason solo falls to the dark side, (The book serie before the one featuring abeloth)
Yep. Legacy of the Force: Revelation is when Gotab heals her.
Wasn't the force sensitive a child between a Jedi and a clone?
@@demi-femme4821 Hang on...was Gotab formerly Bardan Jusik? Or am I thinking of someone else?
@@vexile1239 i got the sensention that he was getting quite old. but if i dont remember wrongly there was also a child of a clone there to.
I remember in the original battlefront game (2004) when you enter the carbon freezing chamber if you walk to the center of the room were han was frozen you die instantly.
I remember that I used to just jump into the chamber and die, didn't stop me doing it in respawnXD
@@TY-km8hj imagine if you could freeze like han did.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 if only, closest we get is force unleashed
@@TY-km8hj yeah those carbon freezing droids.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 from the 2nd? I was thinking of cloud City when u freeze enemies with that pipe u pull out of the ground or the canisters u throw at ppl
This is why cryo is queen. Honestly, Star Wars' lack of it even as a prison system sure feels off.
Same for VR Matrix-style hibernation.
Addendum: Surprised you didn't talk about Han Solo's unfortunate fate in the Infinities alternate timeline of Return of the Jedi. There, he was permanently blinded.
What use would it have except for transport in the prison system
@@panthor109thabest7 A more humane method of "execution".
I wouldn’t want to end up a wall decoration
I just assume the Bespin one was way too crude in comparison to the one used in the Clone Wars, thus hibernation sickness for blind Han.
well carbon freezing gives the old saying of "No. I'm just an meat popsicle
hey there, i have an video idea, it´s abou the "Bureau of Ships and Services". You have mentioned it in previous videos a couple of times, and from what you´ve told before, they sound like they are the most powerful organization in the Star Wars Universe.
A summary video about their purpose, objectives, operations and maybe some speculation would be nice.
Video Idea: Savage Opress
Hmm, what kind of topic about Savage are we talking about?
@@michaelandreipalon359 Any Topic Really
Ah, then I'll recommend on how his killing of Jedi Master Adi Gallia might have shook the fabric of TCW 2008's canonicity with Legends lore.
The Senate enjoyed such trinkets.
Something Mr. Freeze would only dream of.
Cool! I’ve always wondered more about carbon in Star Wars! Nice vid 👍
Is there any legends material that talks about the longest time spent frozen in Carbonite? What if one of those early space ships with a frozen crew got lost and was recovered thousands of years later. It would be crazy if you went to sleep during the ancient galaxy and woke up in the era of the clone wars or empire.
Man I love your star wars videos so much they are so amazing
Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly
DJ spinnin' I said, "My my"
Flash is fast, Flash is cool
François c'est pas, Flash ain't no dude
And you don't stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes right down and it lands on the ground
And out comes a man from Mars
And you try to run but he's got a gun
And he shoots you dead and he eats your head
And then you're in the man from Mars
You go out at night eatin' cars
You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too
Mercurys and Subaru
And you don't stop, you keep on eatin' cars
Then, when there's no more cars you go out at night
And eat up bars where the people meet
Face to face, dance cheek to cheek
One to one, man to man
Dance toe to toe, don't move too slow
'Cause the man from Mars is through with cars
He's eatin' bars, yeah wall to wall
Door to door, hall to hall
He's gonna eat 'em all
Rapture, be pure
Take a tour through the sewer
Don't strain your brain, paint a train
You'll be singin' in the rain
Said don't stop to punk rock
Ha, this comes at a good time as I've been writing a little fan-fic that involves people getting frozen in carbonite. One thing I couldn't pin down... is there a known smell that goes with carbonite?
As for the rare side effect of instant death -- I wonder if it's like general anesthesia, and people with certain conditions or who were in a poor state of health beforehand were more likely to die?
And what happens if someone froze perishables like vegetables or meat in carbonite? It will be safe to consume it when defrozen and cooked?
It should be, yes. They were just deep-frozen.
Due to the risk, I guess this is why the Sith did not use it as a way of achieving immortal lives. But hey, it's not like Darth Sion's way was any better.
Speaking of something related to the Force, which category Bendu is supposed to belong to between the Light and the Dark? Or is Bendu truly the one in the Middle?
It's not even immortality, it's just freezing urself, the most would happen is they stay the same and wake up at different time or even era but they'd still be the same mortal being so it's not viable at all. There was acc a sith army from the old Republic frozen in carbonite shown in star wars empire at war but the game never got another expansion to complete that plot so it went nowhere.
Edit: at 2:39 u can see the image of the frozen army from the game
My freinds froze me for a week as a prank. Apparently it somehow cured my headaches.
Seriously though, the Jedi could've carbonfroze Delta Squad instead of Rex and Cody's regs.
I support keeping rex and Cody at the citadel as rex and Cody worked best with the two jedi leading the team, however delta squad is still an excellent choice, save for the fact that there isn't much in the way of them actually working with any jedi directly. Probably why they chose regs instead of the CCs or even better still, clone force 99. That mission could've gone so much better with either one of those teams... but hey, they had arc troopers going so they DID have the next best thing when they went in
Thankyou for another amazing video!!!
Exploring yet another intriguing topic
How ironic an funny.. an a middle finger from the Force to Vader been if he'd SUCCESSFULLY Locked Luke in Carbonite BUT Luke being a Powerful Jedi focused his abilities, remembered lessons or something etc, an broke out anyways.
Suddenly, 3PO's quote makes so much more sense
It depends on whether you sign a contract to appear in future star wars media
It astounds me that the Jedi archives didn't have any frozen Sith. Seems like it would really fit the Jedi way, rather than killing their enemies. Obviously they wouldn't be able to capture many alive, but we're talking about tens of thousands of years; they'd definitely have amassed a decent Sithsicle collection.
It would only take one person with the knowledge of such collection and with bad intentions to thaw them all at once and then all hell would break loose.
Can you please do a video on the Carbonite war droid
So, Carbonite is a more risky version of Dr. Fries' cryogenic research in the Batman series...
According to the RotJ novelization, there's a chance of being driven insane from sensory overload upon being unfrozen.
Don't forget amnesia (Boba Fetts Wife suffered from it)
Wasn't there also a jedi who was fozen in carbonite for tens of thousands of years and was conscious the whole time? Also, what happened to the other people Din Djarin had frozen in his cargo hold? Did he cash them in or did he just dgaf about them getting vaporized by the turbolaser?
Can you do a video commenting your opnion about how Dave Filoni developed the Jedi in clone wars as an institution that made big mistakes and if that deviated from what George Lucas developed the jedi to symbolically represent in history? Do you think this "subversion" ended up working and giving the story the depth it needed? Do you think that George Lucas already raised this question, but didn't develop it in the story of the Prequels because that wasn't the focus of the plot?
In fairness to Filoni, Lucas himself was directly involved in the development of those episodes up until the Disney purchase
Did Kix suffer from carban sickness after he was captured?
I think he was frozen in a stasis pod or something.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389You would be correct.
@@dancingbymoonlt thanks
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Although that does beg the question of what the long term issues would be for being in a stasis pod.
@@dancingbymoonlt stasis pods must be safer than carbon freezing.
I kinda hate how they turned it into some common thing
Kindaaa erases how experimental it felt in empire
Nice, you learn something everyday. BTW, the spam bots are out again.
Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to stop them :(
Could you get around carbon sickness or death if you were in a stasis pod and then frozen? Or dies it not work on electronics?
8:18 yeeeah 🔥🔥🔥 poor swtor characters
i think the worst posible outcome is just that someone forgets to on freeze you....
Hi, Anyone care to comment of how long a person could, on average , be frozen and still survive. decades....centuries ???
Why does the title rhyme so well xD
Finally
1:54 ??? That pic looks sus.
Hyper arousal? 🤨
-COOL-! Sorry. But still..awesome episode.
So blood is frozen red ice
Ohhhh, sidious not the lord of the sith, MISA THE LORD OF THE SITH. HAHAHAHHAHA
So it’s true, no has actually ever been frozen in Carbon whatnot
Hummmmm? 🔥😇☘️😇🔥
Hyper arousal? So people came out of a good sleep horny 🤔
It's pronounced as Han with a soft a almost like an o not Han with the d dropped that would make it Hand Solo but that's a different topic.. lol
It took entirely too long for you to get to the point about what the side effects were