I feel so bad for first day evictees. Imagine being a fan of the show and achieving your dream of making the cast only to get booted on night one. That would devastate me.
@@mclovinlife4018 not even this, like the comment states. You don’t even have to say anything bad. You could just say good things and be a first day boot. First boots will always be a thing. First day boots don’t give anyone a chance to show anything other than looks.
Agreed. Big brother does a lot of weird things that really don’t give someone any chance and they just say it’s under the guise of expect the unexpected
falcon guy dan did not get robbed. he lied too much unnecessarily, and ian’s final speech put him in a grave. his jury management just wasn’t good, like he told lies when he didn’t even need too.
ApplexDino _ nah mostly Janelle and Kaysar, that ones who clicked the alliance and tried to form a counter alliance but unfortunately no one listened to them (Ian included) don’t vote with the house if the house isn’t with u in the long run.
Eric as America's player did everything "America" wanted but America's players from season 16 of BB had a choice if they were going to do the mission or not depending if it would mess with their personal game or not
Yup. Clear acknowledgement from Production that the original America's Player formula was too much. America wants *some* control, they don't want to watch someone try to play the game with no agency.
I think what's most frustrating that fans complain all the time about production meddling with the game and the vast majority of the time, it's unfounded and really just an excuse from people who are mad that their favorites aren't doing well. However, when things like the Sharon question or the reintroduction of the duos twist exist which are so blatantly done to push things in a certain direction, I can totally understand and justify why fans think that way. Production has given them the ammunition. Thank you Peridiam for reminding people who two of the all-time fan favorites - Dick and Rachel - deserve MASSIVE asterisks next to their "wins".
I think that’s because Jun Song has said that in the contract it says production is allowed to have predetermined winners of challenges if they see fit.
Federico Saldias If you ate slop for a week you probably wouldn’t be laughing about it. Everyone else followed the rules and he didn’t. In that case there should be no rules if they don’t mean anything.
What about Dannielle Season 3? The whole reason for secret diary room sessions is to keep them secret.... can't believe to this day that they the production staff did not think of it. Rewatching her comments in the DR, nothing seems that bad compared to today or I should say a couple years ago (since they really don't play the last couple of years)
I have a 2-part video series breaking down my thoughts on her story/game on BB3. Ultimately the DR's were known to be public so it's a part of the game back then, unfortunately.
Idk if you know this or not but on the Taran Show Eric mentioned how basically before s8 started production told him he would be Americas player and if he said no he couldnt be on the season due to knowing about the twist so while yes he did agree to it, it was either agree and get to play the game he loves, or reject and never get his chance
Zach Rance talked about how the producers influence the game whenever they want a certain outcome. Sad when reality TV becomes fake and controlled by producers
Julie probably paused & cut ✂ her mic🎤 off to tell production that her cue card has the wrong answer on it & when they told her no it's right that the preexisting duo remaining in the house are the pet 🐹 🐹
My theory is that the answer card was intentionally left blank. Julie would be forced to pause and get clarification. Production could see how the houseguests answered, and then radio their "correct" answer to Julie. In most scenarios, they would just say Fiction but if they saw an opportunity they would say Fact with the bullshit reasoning.
To this day it still sets me on fire that production got away with that BLANTANT rigging with the pandoras box IN BB13. Shelli was such an incredible player that got screwed over and evicted for PLAYING WELL.
Can we stop pretending the guy that literally was given friendship bracelets and 4 weeks of safety just during the first week was robbed? The season was made for him to win and his ego once again got in his way that Josh of all people outplayed him.
Josh didn’t outplay him it’s just that Paul was the biggest reason for almost every single eviction and the jury was bitter about that and voted Josh. Josh was only good at riding Paul’s coattails and starting arguments
@@cantthinkofaname7706 Again. If the guy had a tailor made season where he had every advantage imaginable, and he still managed to lose, then is it really the jury's fault or is it his?
@@cantthinkofaname7706 I actually would argue that Josh outplayed him. If I remember correctly, Josh was doing mega jury management with his GB messages, basically outing Paul's game in them and throwing him under the bus. I don't like Josh, and I think he played a pretty weak game overall, but he absolutely outplayed Paul with his GB messages.
Some Guy on YT there is no such thing as a bitter jury. there is a such thing as poor jury management. if you feel the jury is “bitter” towards you, then you didn’t play a good enough social game.
They also sequestered her and the pre jurors for a battle back that would have taken place if the coaches didn’t press the button which they did and then they flew her back out for Celeb BB to do this stupid musical for a comp and have a 5 second moment only to say “not me” 💀Why did they waste her time like that?
Joseph Drous-Kirshenbaum the only validity to that was an attempt by production to try and break-up the power couple of Emmett and Jillian, but then Topaz went and screwed things up.
Not at all true. If anyone got robbed that season it was Emmett. Gary comes back at FINAL 4 which is ridiculous, and then Dan comes in (an outside source) and shifts Gary’s thought process completely to get rid of Emmett. Emmett played the best game and got screwed by 2 “twists” at the very end that inevitably got him evicted.
The fact that #JusticeforJodi is so visible and yet production has not done anything about giving her a legitimate shot at the game is such a robbery. Also, both Sharon and Shelli are so obviously members of the “Top 5 Robbed Goddesses Big Brother Edition” list it hurts.
Lol everyone saying paul is on the list and finding out hes not fail to remember the end game is always jury management and his is terrible. Danielle reyes deserved a spot on here more than him even though they both lost for the same reason, but jury managemt was really a thought yet back when she played
IMO you should not have to kiss ass to win a game of Big Brother. The winner should be the person in the final 2 that played the better game, not the one who was better at sucking up. Paul dominated in season 19 and was amazing in 18 and deserved to win both. At least Nicole has an argument tho. Josh winning is just horrible.
Some Guy on YT There’s a difference between kissing up and social game. Part of big brother is that you have to have a physical, mental, AND social game. You need to to play a part in people’s evictions, but still be able to send them out without a bad taste in their mouth. The jury are real people, they have feelings and if you’re in the final 2 you need to earn their respect
@@cantthinkofaname7706 Jury is a huge element of the game of Big Brother. Paul would have won BB19 had he been honest in his Goodbye messages. It's like he forgot that all the Jury stays in one house together and talk to eachother. Had he handled his messages like Tyler has this season so far, Paul probably wins by a huge margin.
@@handsoaphandsoap I don't think Danielle has Marcellas regardless, because there's no way he ever votes for her after she convinced him to not use POV on himself, then votes him out
When I 1st saw the love room pillows this year, I did not realize they were showmance names... I thought the Jess and Cody Jody pillow was a Jodi tribute 😂😂😂
Also brendon getting voted back cuz he’s the returnee and going back in the house through a physical comp. also putting 6 returnees in the house is such an obvious alliance. The season was rigged so hard for Rachel
There are plenty of moments where the outcome of the competition is secretly decided by the producers. Sharon, fact/fiction, was one of these moments. The pause was the control room telling her what to say.
I feel bad for Danielle Reyes. They changed the rules after her season to not show jury members the diary room recordings until "after" they voted (and some season, like this current one, they don't show them at all during the show). If the jury had never seen her diary room videos, they would have likely voted for her to win. Although that's what makes BB so hard to win. You have to think ahead and so she should have considered the possibility that they would see the videos (and not revealed anything). That's why no matter how good of a game someone plays, if they don't win it all, I can't consider them among the best. If they don't win it all, there was something strategic they did that led to their downfall.
It’s because there was no part that production played into the robbing. Danielle was screwed bc of her own diary rooms bc the jury wasn’t sequestered. All these in the video are blatant uses of production manipulating the game. However I do agree that Danielle was robbed and should’ve won BB3.
@@awsumg2168 She wasn't robbed by anything. First of all, Danielle knew that the DRs would be shown as she was a fan of BB2. But more importantly, both Lisa and Jason played better games than her. Danielle played way too hard in the latter portion of the game and everyone in the DR was calling her out for it. She let Jason have too big of a say in their alliance (specifically in keeping Roddy as long as they did) and of course made the dumb mistake of booting Amy over Lisa. She told Lisa and Jason way too much without getting much in return. Meanwhile, Lisa and Jason were playing top notch social games and Lisa, in particularly, was really outplaying Danielle strategically. In the end, she had Marcellas ready to go after Jason and Danielle and had Jason and Danielle ready to go after Marcellas and Amy. Jason played the best overall game, but Lisa deserved her win, especially over Danielle.
I agree to a point, however knowing that the jury wasn’t sequestered at the time should’ve been thought of the moment of walking into the house. Although she is someone who was robbed based on the diary room sessions production decided to show, that was her responsibility. In addition, the decision to take out Amy (who reentered the game) and not Lisa @ Final 3 didn’t help either. Albeit that was Jason and Danielle both being responsible for that. Obviously a great player regardless w/o any additional explanation.
AwsumG21 i 100% disagree. her loss was production’s fault. bb is a tv show, dani was trying to be entertaining by having harsh diary rooms. since dr’s were shown to the ppl who would vote for a winner, production basically intentionally created a broken system where you either sacrifice authentic exciting diary room sessions or a deserving winner.
This is basically players screwed over by twists. I am bummed that people like Shelby from OTT, Kathy from BB12 and Cody from BB19 weren't on this list but it is what it is. Also Jessie from BB10 but not sure if that one counts since you already mentioned him once. But anyway, good video. You could do the same list for BBCAN since you know how that show loves throwing in twists that screw over players.
The first one I'm okay with since, ultimately, it was one vote and Dan was 50/50 on if he'd evict Jessie or Memphis that week anyway leaning towards Jessie. But the Coup d'Etat... yeah. Screw that noise.
@@Captain_Subpar If you go back to his hammock talks, however, Dan said that week that his ideal scenario was keeping that large alliance together for one more week (and then making his move.) And the only way that could happen is if he actually campaigned to evict Memphis. Also remember that up until that point, Dan actually had a slightly better relationship with Jessie than Memphis. Now I wouldn't say Jessie was "robbed" S10 like he was in S11, because even if Jessie stays that week, I don't see him getting near the win.
I made a reply on this, but while Jessie did get screwed over by twists, I don’t think Jessie would lasted too much longer on both season. Likely, he would’ve been evicted two eviction later on both seasons. In season 10, had Dan kept Jessie and evicted Memphis, Jessie would have safe in the next week due to Michelle still winning HoH and going after Keesha and Libra. However, I still think Renny still would’ve her won HoH and put Jessie alongside April to ensure on of them going. Dan, by deciding to actually win comps, would have won the Veto. Even with a connection to Jessie, Dan would’ve kept the nominations in light of April’s bribery stunt. That aside and in mind, Jessie would’ve have known that he was SOL since he was still on the block post-Veto, either knowing beforehand he didn’t have the votes to stay or Dan would’ve stabbed Jessie in the back, knowing April and Ollie would have bigger target on their back by staying intact than apart. In season 11, had Jeff not used that coup de’ tat, Russell was gone, as Chima had guaranteed at least a tied vote beforehand. However, I still see Michelle winning the next HoH (even if Jessie did well). Her noms would have been Chima and Jessie (instead of of Natalie), with Natalie as the replacement pawn, to ensure one of them going. That said, I still also see Chima getting expelled since the the microphone-stunt (that served as the final straw for the production) still would have happen. In the next HoH, Jordan would have still won. Even had Jessie beaten Jordan, she would’ve taken the HoH prize upon elimination, and Jeff had that comp down (no one was beating him unless he threw it). Jordan’s noms would’ve have been Jessie, as her target, and Natalie (even with Lydia’s annoyance). I still think Jordan would’ve still won the veto. Even if Jordan switched Natalie with Lydia because of her stupidity, Jessie knew he was done by being too threatening, Lydia aside. I’m not as harsh with Jeff using that power since the overall power in the house was shifting already. Jeff using that power brought it both one week sooner (and shifting it back one week sooner) had it happen “naturally” (or organically you can be in Big Brother)
@@marklisowski6549 Jessie wasn't winning BB10 regardless, you're right on that. Your BB11 analysis is very very shaky however - most importantly the claim that Chima would have gotten expelled regardless. That whole thing happened specifically because of the coup d'etat. Chima was claiming "rigging" everytime she declined to go into the DR and while she was throwing her mic! The coup d'etat directly led to that. It's still Chima fault for acting like that, but it wouldn't have happened but for the coup d'etat. Additionally - you can't reliably predict comp wins in that alternative scenario. First of all, Jessie would still be in the house, but more importantly, the morale of that entire wouldn't have been in shambles. They weren't just pissed because Jessie went home, they were pissed because they realized America was against them lol. Second of all, Jeff and Jordan only actually started caring about the game once Jeff got the coup. Had that not happened, those two would have been perfectly fine to sit in their hammock and await their fate. Russ (who wanted to work with Jessie anyways) would have been gone and Michelle wouldn't have had a strong alliance to float to. There's no guaranteeing obviously that Jessie wins HOH had the coup not been in place - but it certainly seemed like that.
@@shanexyz3972 You do have have some points. That said, I’m not as harsh with Jeff’s as I think things would have balanced out regardless. Speaking of balance, the Coup de tat also had some balance, or at least the one on the US, which a lot of people forget, and how thing immediately unfolded demonstrated that. Jeff could not vote alongside Chima by using that power. The actual vote was 3-2, so Natalie barely survived (since Lydia wasn’t the brightest decision maker as Kevin knew what he was doing, even if it leaves a bad taste your mouth). Also, by getting de-throned, Chima was allowed to compete the following HOH (where she normally wouldn’t), and it came down to her and Michelle for HOH. (Canada’s version that Britney got was broken, and I was glad Ashleigh is one my favorite BBCAN player for lighting a fire under her ass to win the next 3 PoV, amidst her re-rerouted HOH, and still got Britnee out.)
Thank you for bringing up the BB13 twist and the asterisk next to Rachel Reilly's win. That was such blatant riggage. There's a decent chance Rachel does not win the game without that twist occurring.
The fact that i can already tell Naeha from bbcan3 isn't on here even though she flipped the house in 24 hours in her favor and was evicted because of an instant eviction. Forever robbed.
Im still shocked that Paul didnt win either seasons of BB that he was in. He was a fuckin master, and a bunch of butt-hurt people made sure he didnt win.
Omg I’m so glad u involved Sharon and hamstergate because I feel like people forgot that totally BS question. I feel like she should’ve won the season and won that F4 HOH.
I'll play devil's advocate and make the argument that Rachel still would've won BB13 without the duos twist. Hear me out, but theoretically it could have gone: - Rachel wins the veto, Porsche puts up either Shelly or Adam in her place, probably Adam, and Jordan is evicted. - Rachel wins HOH, and puts up Kalia and Porsche, with Kalia being the target since Rachel knows she's the biggest jury threat. Plus, Kalia had put Rachel up twice at this point, giving Rachel more justification to go after her. Adam wins veto, doesn't use it, and Kalia is evicted. - Adams wins HOH, and nominates Rachel and Porsche. Rachel and Porsche make a deal to take each other to final 2, knowing Shelly and Adam will take each other and that needs to be broken up. This final 2 deal could have also been made the week before when it was 100% set at that point that Kalia was going. Porsche wins veto and evicts Shelly. - The rest of the season plays out exactly as it did in real life. Rachel wins HOH, evicts Adam, and wins the season 4-3, getting votes from Brendon (duh), Jeff & Jordan (again, duh), and Shelly, who doesn't respect Porsche's game, and can appreciate that Rachel was able to convince Porsche to evict Shelly at final 4. Plus, her mending her friendship with Jeff & Jordan at the jury house who both campaign for Rachel helps. Again, it's all theoretical, and any one variable can change this entire scenario. Rachel might have nominated Kalia and Shelly at final 5. Who's to say? I'm just saying there was at least a chance.
@joseph ofori Yes, there are plenty of variables. I just don't like when fans say Rachel had no chance to win without the duos twist when I honestly believe she still could have.
I am fed up with people watching reality shows and complaining, they seem to know everything behind the scenes, its fake, production manipulates,please people then make your lives easy only watch scripted shows, but the you might still have a problem you might hates how it ends.Get a life.
Some ones you missed: 1. Karen (BB5) - Played the best social and strategic game of the season. She managed to turn Drew against Diane and Diane against Drew at different points in the game. She gets severely twist screwed though. First, the twin twist takes out her biggest ally and then a rigged F5 veto allows the one person who Karen doesn't want to win to win. 2. Porsche (BB13) - Shelly played the best game that season, but chances were that she wasn't going to win regardless of Pandora's box. Porsche, on the other hand, played the second best game that season and had a really good shot of winning but for Pandora's Box. If there's no Pandora - Jordan goes home, then Rachel wins and Shelly goes, then Adam wins and Rachel goes. Then Porsche has a good shot of winning the FHOH and winning against either Kalia or Adam. 3. Zach (BB8) - Eric obviously ruled BB8, but people overlook Zach. Zach did a great job floating between both sides of the Little Julie Chens and played crucial parts in almost every vote in the second part of the game. He not only had to face an unfair Father/Daughter pair, but also had to face Eric himself who was paid to help said duo. Despite this, he makes F3 where he would have had a blowout win against either Dick or Danielle but loses the FinalHOH to Dick...after Dick cheats lmao. You can tell Dick (who admitted to cheating via his HOH letters) is able to read Zach's answer (and you know production knew as they never had this setup again.) And not really a robbed g.oddess, but Big Meech did sort of get screwed in BB18. She was forced to become HOH due to the care package, but was also forced to share the power with Natalie. Nat essentially makes her turn on the Sitting Ducks and then the next week, she isn't allowed to play for HOH and goes home. Pretty shitty imo.
@@awsumg2168 Shelly wouldn't be in the game (which is part of my point about saying she was robbed.) Adam would have HOH, Porsche would get POV, and no way does she choose Rachel over Kalia. And on the small chance that Kali wins POV since she's still in the game - Rachel absolutely goes home.
Shane XYZ If no Pandora Box. Rachel wins F6 veto, Jordan goes home. Rachel wins F5 HOH still, Kalia goes home. Then Adam wins F4 HOH and Porsche chooses between Shelly & Rachel. She evicts Shelly. Rachel still wins F3 HOH and wins the season by a vote of 4 to 3.
@@awsumg2168 This is incorrect. Rachel wins F5 HOH, puts up Kalia and Shelly, Adam wins POV and the two votes are Adam and Porsche. Porsche obviously votes out Shelly as does Adam who had already cut ties with Shelly in the Jeff vote in favor of Kalia/Porsche.
AwsumG21 How does Shelly not go home though over Kalia? Rachel and Porsche had a secret alliance and Rachel hated Shelly. It would be Shelly and Kalia on the block with Shelly being the target.
I wonder what would've happened if Eric used the veto. He wasn't allowed to, but what if he did anyway. I wonder if production would've cut the ceremony on the spot, or more likely, just revoked his americas player money. Probably would've been worth it if it meant him being much more likely to win the show
Cameron Heard from BB19 was in my opinion the most robbed contestant. He had chosen a poison apple which had him on the block and went against the vote wanting an eviction competition instead of a vote. He had to now face a vote and was evicted. Paul later took his place. It is literally every BB superfan’s worst nightmare if you’re ever selected.
With Sharon, I think the issue is that she was evicted, and not brought back bc of a twist, but bc of the pair twist failing, I think because she shouldn't have been in the game anyway at that point production didn't want to risk her going further or even winning.
Okay but she would've never been evicted if it weren't for production forcing her to be tied down to her idiot of an ex who got evicted in the first place. Production screwed her twice
Definitely Tyler season 20 no doubt. That was definitely his win for sure, he ran the entire house that season and was most definitely the best player but bitter jurors took his win from him
What angers me the most about Tyler being robbed was the reason WHY. At least 2 jurors Baily and Rockstar voted against Tyler for no other reason than the fact that he is a White man of European descent and his opponent was a Filipino lesbian. The PROOF of this claim is in the live feeds, Baily says to Rockstar and I quote " Jee Rockstar, you hate White people almost as much as I do" Just by coincidence (not) both Baily and Rockstar vote against him in the finale. With only 9 jurors, it is tough to overcome 2 votes like that.
@@jackb9830 how'd you like tyler coming back next season and offering himself up to go home so the two "Queens" could stay in together cause they were representative of something bigger than themselves?
@@Somethin_Slix Excellent question! I didn't like it one bit! It illustrated just how naive Tyler is about racial and political topics. In general, Tyler is way too nice for his own good and naive on top of it. Bayleigh is a typical Black bully. She sensed weakness in Tyler and went on the attack. Tyler was horrified by this, not because he was victimized, but rather that someone might misconstrue him as an r-word for simply having a public feud with a Black woman. So in order to squash this perception that some people MIGHT have had about him, he decides to slavishly grovel to her in this manner. It was sad and pathetic, but not surprising. But I do think he finally learned his lesson, I hope. Yes, Bayleighs initial attack on Tyler was racially motivated. Bayleigh said on the live feeds, and I quote "gee Rockstar, you hate White people almost as much as me"
@@jackb9830 I don't even like Bayleigh, but I don't think her vote for Kaycee was purely race related, because you also have to factor in the huge blowup between Bayleigh and Tyler where he says that he didn't need her jury vote to win as another factor that influenced her decision. And then she incorrectly thought he'd influenced Angela to target her because he thought Bayleigh was the one who won the hacker comp and got him put on the block that week, so that also plays into her decision
Alex Coladonato & Parker Somorsworth, also from Season 9 were equally robbed as some of these guys were. They went home because Jen was dating Ryan (Alison would've been equally robbed) and Alex was evicted because Amanda Hansen became a pariah. You can also say the same for Cassi Colvin & Dominic Briones. There was no way the house was going to evict Adam or Shelley because the fans were never going to target non-threats.
Alex was a total asshole to Amanda so he got what was deserved. Cassi was just a catty bitch and Dom made himself a big target, especially by getting Daniele to flip on the veterans.
Since I haven’t seen any comments, most robbed is Everyone but Carol from BBCAN8. Getting screwed out by production or twist (especially in Canada) is one thing. Having the season prematurely shut down by your government in light of a pandemic is something else. Since Carol both wanted to go home and actively trying to get herself evicted without quitting/self eviction (like Nico did) (probably her justifying it as a mercy kill), her getting sent home earlier was a blessing in more ways than one.
Porsche will always be the most robbed final 2 competitor to me. Rachel won because more then half the jury were returning players that she all knew outside the house and all voted for her to win no duh. Brandon, Jeff, Jordon, Dani...
Not really. All she though do well in quite a few comps, she floated heavily the entire game (golden key or not) and often based her game decision more so on who was floating with at the time over than clearly communicating that move she made were actually and solely in her best interest.
@@marklisowski6549 float or not she did make it to the finals and lost by 1 vote. So she clearly made good enough decisions to warrant a win. Im saying she’s robbed because half the jury promised Rachel the vote before they even got into the house. This is exactly why we dont get half new competitors and half returning players anymore
@@MikeGlasses with any case of an all-star or player returning, that is always prone and even likely happen regardless if it is Big Brother, Survivor (which has been more prevalent in pre-gaming), and notably MTV’s The Challenge. Also, Porsche did have the votes to win, even 3 vets voting for another vet to win. Shelley, not Adam (who was bitter towards Rachel for not taking him the end), decided, to a lot of surprises and amidst many issues Shelley and Rachel has with each other throughout the season, voted for Rachel. Up until that, Rachel looked like she thought she lost.
@@Peridiam I'm so ready for your season review. Total train wreck of a season, and we haven't even gotten to the point when Production usually meddles in the outcome yet!
With how static the season has been, I don’t production could have done much. A few of the power and safety did help a little, but it was short-lived and no one in the out could get any traction
@@marklisowski6549 The closest a week got to exciting for me was Week 6 because of David and Kevin both being safe and Tyler almost getting evicted over Ian. But other than that? This season has been a complete snorefest.
America & Production shouldn’t be making choices that rig the game. Glass House was a copycat of Big Brother but was completely influenced by America & ended up being a trash show that lasted 1 season
I think like half the cast in season 3 got screwed over. Those instant evictions and triple evictions (where HOH nominates 3 people and 2 go home) were just ridiculous. Plus a twist every week that season. Like what is strategy?
@@ryangaskin4938 Unfortunately, that was bound to happen with how the first 2 season went. Also, BBCAN players deserve a separate video with this. Most screed from Canada is Bruno. Had it not been for twist, Bruno would’ve lasted at least a week later with both season. However, Canada, both production and fans, wanted the Fembots to stay longer, and Kevin got such a lucky break that William won that hidden power.
@@ryangaskin4938 if done and placed right, a triple eviction and instant eviction, can work to demonstrate to never get to comfortable in Big Brother. How Canada does it is questionable. I wouldn’t mind if the US would a do re-work version on an instant eviction. The US version at least showed a better version in both structure (playing double after another) as well as Tyler and Christmas at least tried to do something by attempting to blindside Nicole.
Although jury statements could get very random, it was something that used in that way until they re-tweaked with both Celebrity Big Brother and seasons 20 and 21
The producers excuse about people not having enough time to vote for Eric to use the veto or not makes sense. The veto competition takes place before the actual episode airs, by the time they aired the episode, the veto meeting would have already happened but it was unjust that he wasn't told beforehand about that disadvantage.
Another suggestion for a video, in light of the triple eviction upcoming as well as Shelley being discussed is cases based her jury, which is doing moves one eviction too soon.
@@loganhall4297 likely, David would have made jury for not being threatening at all while other Houseguests would’ve been targeted, especially as the dysfunction as Gr8ateful and Six Shooters unfolded. What would’ve done David in is Jackson’s first HOH. I can see the whole botched pawn situation in the camp director twist happening then, causing Jackson to nominate (over flawed game logic) David (instead of Analyze) as a backup target alongside Christie. Given Christie pulled a magic rabbit out her ass with that Taco Tuesday stunt, David would’ve been evicted 9th (likely not playing All-stars due to lackluster gameplay). Ironically, had Analyze made it past Prank week to compete in that endurance comp (something she had been consistently good with), that is where things would’ve gotten interesting with Jackson. With both season, David is a hybrid version of Da’Vonne and Winston. Like Da’Vonne, David has certain attributes that can work to his advantage, but like her, he doesn’t have a clue on what do with it effectively. Like Winston, David looks the part on someone who appears to do well in certain to an array of competitions but when they actually they compete, the opposite holds true to what the surface indicates.
Would you consider making a separate video dedicated to BBCAN players who were robbed? Someone like Bruno definitely earns an honorable mention, I think he's up there as one of the most screwed over players. Losing because of twists in both BBCAN 3 because of the Coup d'Brittney and in BBCAN 5 because of the black hole veto. He's at least equal to Jesse in terms of being screwed over because they were both ousted due to a Coup Power, but adding the black hole veto really pushes him over the edge for me as the most robbed player. I think he's got the best chance to win season 3 before getting evicted, and I think he goes deep in 5 but probably loses to Demetres assuming he wins all those comps. Nevertheless he still goes really deep in both seasons and had really good odds to win.
Porsche not being on here was in light of the fact she got to the end. Saying she got robbed is a stretch since Porsche did have the votes there, especially with Adam not happy with Rachel voting him out. It came down to Shelley’s vote, and Rachel was able to secure it while Porsche failed to do so.
@@marklisowski6549Shelly only voted for Rachel cuz production clued her in about her family getting death threats / Jeff bullying her in jury. Plus if the Pandora’s box BS never happened There’s a good chance Rachel would’ve been evicted that week, if it wasn’t her then Jordan. Then Rachel would’ve left at final 4 cuz Porsche won veto. Yeah Porsche was robbed
@@clovesevina9763 Jordan would’ve likely been voted out, even if Rachel didn’t win the veto, in a similar lane of why Shelley stabbed Jeff in the back as well as Shelley kinda wanted to win in the worst way, and Rachel won both seen as a goat player as well as someone who be used to break up Kalia and Porsche, who were a duo. Also, sometime in the following week and/or at Final 4, Porsche and Rachel did re-kindle their relationship and formed a Final 2 (Rachel specifically mentioned that when she voted out Adam). So, Porsche, who won the final veto, would still keep Rachel and used Shelley’s tactics against her, voted her out (Adam won Final 4 HoH, but if Shelley somehow got a clutch win, then it would’ve been Adam.)
I don’t think the UA-cam algorithm likes you. I literally watch every one of your videos on Big Brother and rarely do they suggest new videos of yours to me. Laaaaame.
Paul deserved to win his first season. He played the best game and Josh sucked. He should have won and then not came back and ruined his rep bc he was a great player
BB13: I never understood why the rookie players didn't pick both Rachel and Jordan to split them up in the event that one wins safety/veto... The pairings were never seen from what I remember. This would essentially make Pandora's Box twist not that impactful being that the house would be able to control the vote in the event a Vet's pair wins veto.
the pairings were made the same way it was at the start of the season, players just chose them. If any of the houseguests asked Jordan/Rachel to be in a team they could just say no
I think what they meant when they said America had no time to vote for Eric's veto was because of the schedule of the game and live feeds vs the episodes. e.g. Eric wins veto on Saturday, the veto ceremony is on Monday. The veto episode doesn't premiere until Wednesday, so the viewing and voting public don't even know Eric has the veto until many days after the fact. Voting would only work if BB spoiled ahead of time that Eric won or by those that watch the feeds, but they want the casuals to vote so they get millions of votes in. That's probably what they meant when they said that, so it makes sense to me, however silly it is lol
[SPOILER] I notice the seasons are 8 9 11 13 14. Building off your "eras" video, I definitely think that middle period was defined in large part by repeated production interference. (Not to say production interference isn't a going-on now, but I think they've gotten more subtle about it.)
Stan Marsh season 15 says hello. Also minorities tend to not go far in the game. Usually outcasted by large all-white alliances (this season being exhibit A). Or even last season (? Or maybe the season before?) every single minority was voted out right away. Literally the first 4/5 evicted were non-white. While season 15 may have been one of the only times with blatantly racist moments, I’ve noticed tons of racist undertones in how the cast interacts with itself each season.
as far as Eric's veto goes...it's played on Sat and meeting is Monday....there would never be time for America to vote based on when the episodes air...he should have been told so he could throw every veto so he was never in that spot..
You should try to interview some of the pst contestants to find out the truth on some of this stuff, especially America’s player. That would be so awesome
Okay, but we need the bbcan version of this too, cause they are way worse with their twists. Bbcan 1- Emmett wins if Dan Gheesling doesn’t come into the game and basically tell Gary not to take Emmett to the f2 Bbcan3- the Double Veto saved Brittany and eventual winner Sarah when they were pretty screwed and Bruno suddenly goes home Bbcan4- Mitch Moffit played a flawless game only to be exposed by the dumbest twist which allowed 2 Evicted HGs to watch feeds and then one of them to come back and share everything Bbcan5- kinda screwed Gary cause backwards week HOH was won by Dem who wouldn’t have nominated him in the first place in a normal week
I see alot of people talk about rewatching seasons of Big Brother. Yet I have never been able to figure out how to do so? Is there like a certain website or place where you can download seasons. I mean never seen anything in DVD or Blu-ray form thats forsure. If anyone knows let me know!!
I agree that Jodi is probably the most robbed. But I would probably give an honorable mention to Parker and Alex from BB9, who had *really* bad players as partners and basically got screwed because their partners were targeted. I also believe that if Sharon didn't get back in the game, we'd still see her on this list, just because of her partner. Maybe you could also add Bruno from BBCAN3 and Mitch from BBCAN4 if we want to include BBCAN, but that would make the list way too long.
I feel so bad for first day evictees. Imagine being a fan of the show and achieving your dream of making the cast only to get booted on night one. That would devastate me.
Every time I think I could dominate the show, I remember that it only takes one statement to get you sent home first,
@@mclovinlife4018 not even this, like the comment states. You don’t even have to say anything bad. You could just say good things and be a first day boot. First boots will always be a thing. First day boots don’t give anyone a chance to show anything other than looks.
Night one evictions are really dumb and I wish they would stop them
Agreed. Big brother does a lot of weird things that really don’t give someone any chance and they just say it’s under the guise of expect the unexpected
There is a difference between robbed players and players that deserved to win. This video is talking about robbed players.
i dont see how the two are mutually exclusive
Dan got robbed
falcon guy you talking about 14 Dan ? I agree for sure
if u played 10 times better then someone and lost to them in the final 2 u got robbed......
falcon guy dan did not get robbed. he lied too much unnecessarily, and ian’s final speech put him in a grave. his jury management just wasn’t good, like he told lies when he didn’t even need too.
Most robbed: everyone in BB22 that wasn't part of the pre-game alliance.
The most boring season 😴
Cody D mostly ian
ApplexDino _ nah mostly Janelle and Kaysar, that ones who clicked the alliance and tried to form a counter alliance but unfortunately no one listened to them (Ian included) don’t vote with the house if the house isn’t with u in the long run.
Josh Washburn ian shouldn’t have been pn the block if the twist didn’t happen
ugh yes screw effing dan and captain porky.
Eric as America's player did everything "America" wanted but America's players from season 16 of BB had a choice if they were going to do the mission or not depending if it would mess with their personal game or not
Yup. Clear acknowledgement from Production that the original America's Player formula was too much. America wants *some* control, they don't want to watch someone try to play the game with no agency.
Eric had some choice as well
I think what's most frustrating that fans complain all the time about production meddling with the game and the vast majority of the time, it's unfounded and really just an excuse from people who are mad that their favorites aren't doing well. However, when things like the Sharon question or the reintroduction of the duos twist exist which are so blatantly done to push things in a certain direction, I can totally understand and justify why fans think that way. Production has given them the ammunition.
Thank you Peridiam for reminding people who two of the all-time fan favorites - Dick and Rachel - deserve MASSIVE asterisks next to their "wins".
That to say, Zach from BB16 confirmed a lot of meddling so the production does do it
Thumb Head They did though. He was on slop but was seen on camera eating real food and yet didn’t receive a penalty
@@flawessgrace4604 Meh. As a viewer that wouldn't bother me at all. Have nots are a gimmick at this point.
I think that’s because Jun Song has said that in the contract it says production is allowed to have predetermined winners of challenges if they see fit.
Federico Saldias If you ate slop for a week you probably wouldn’t be laughing about it. Everyone else followed the rules and he didn’t. In that case there should be no rules if they don’t mean anything.
What about Dannielle Season 3? The whole reason for secret diary room sessions is to keep them secret.... can't believe to this day that they the production staff did not think of it. Rewatching her comments in the DR, nothing seems that bad compared to today or I should say a couple years ago (since they really don't play the last couple of years)
I have a 2-part video series breaking down my thoughts on her story/game on BB3. Ultimately the DR's were known to be public so it's a part of the game back then, unfortunately.
@@Peridiam Fair point
Idk if you know this or not but on the Taran Show Eric mentioned how basically before s8 started production told him he would be Americas player and if he said no he couldnt be on the season due to knowing about the twist so while yes he did agree to it, it was either agree and get to play the game he loves, or reject and never get his chance
Damn that’s tuff
production may suck at a lot of things but it is great at keep contestant complacent during and after the show
The Price Is Right song makes it funnier. Julie's "play harder" response to Jessie's legitimate complaint is hilarious.
Ok I'm genuinely convinced that Nicole's bb22 zing was written by Janelle
*Thats a fact :>*
No it was written by the Big Brother community as a whole. She’s one of the most hated houseguests ever
@@owynrobinson7790 Nicole F? Never took her to be really hated
@@jacobreveles7222 She is. Very very hated by a good chunk of the community. She’s popular too in a sense but she’s hated
@@owynrobinson7790 she wouldn’t be though if she accepted she was a villain.But she puts a goody two shoes act and makes her look baf
Zach Rance talked about how the producers influence the game whenever they want a certain outcome. Sad when reality TV becomes fake and controlled by producers
It’s sad that he probably isn’t getting asked back because he exposed them 😭
Zach’s acting as if he’s exposing production, but he’s several years too late. Fans learned this years ago.
Aka, it’s not even reality tv anymore, because the producers don’t let the game progress naturally. Therefore, it’s now called Fictional tv
Y’all know BB isn’t a reality show right? It’s a game show..
@@AndyDuphresne it's both
I almost want to say you didn’t put Danielle on here so people could claim that she was robbed of being put on your most robbed list.
The fact that I commented how she wasn’t on this list and then I read this comment... you read me
Julie probably paused & cut ✂ her mic🎤 off to tell production that her cue card has the wrong answer on it & when they told her no it's right that the preexisting duo remaining in the house are the pet 🐹 🐹
I thought the same thing when it actually happened live. I was like "even Julie couldn't believe the answer she was reading"
@@Michael-qz1ib Even if Sharon wins hoh, ryan still wins veto and evicts sheila. Then ryan still wins f3 hoh and evicts sharon
My theory is that the answer card was intentionally left blank. Julie would be forced to pause and get clarification. Production could see how the houseguests answered, and then radio their "correct" answer to Julie. In most scenarios, they would just say Fiction but if they saw an opportunity they would say Fact with the bullshit reasoning.
Methinks the fix was in.
To this day it still sets me on fire that production got away with that BLANTANT rigging with the pandoras box IN BB13. Shelli was such an incredible player that got screwed over and evicted for PLAYING WELL.
Can we stop pretending the guy that literally was given friendship bracelets and 4 weeks of safety just during the first week was robbed? The season was made for him to win and his ego once again got in his way that Josh of all people outplayed him.
Josh didn’t outplay him it’s just that Paul was the biggest reason for almost every single eviction and the jury was bitter about that and voted Josh. Josh was only good at riding Paul’s coattails and starting arguments
@@cantthinkofaname7706 Jury management counts. Paul sucked at it by being an asshole for most of the season.
@@cantthinkofaname7706 Again. If the guy had a tailor made season where he had every advantage imaginable, and he still managed to lose, then is it really the jury's fault or is it his?
@@cantthinkofaname7706 I actually would argue that Josh outplayed him. If I remember correctly, Josh was doing mega jury management with his GB messages, basically outing Paul's game in them and throwing him under the bus. I don't like Josh, and I think he played a pretty weak game overall, but he absolutely outplayed Paul with his GB messages.
Some Guy on YT there is no such thing as a bitter jury. there is a such thing as poor jury management. if you feel the jury is “bitter” towards you, then you didn’t play a good enough social game.
The saddest part about Jodi’s eviction is that
Varner, Sue, Gervase, and Alicia all spent more time in the BB house than Jodi.
They also sequestered her and the pre jurors for a battle back that would have taken place if the coaches didn’t press the button which they did and then they flew her back out for Celeb BB to do this stupid musical for a comp and have a 5 second moment only to say “not me” 💀Why did they waste her time like that?
Before watching the vid I gotta say, Eric Stein better be on the list 😤😤
Spoiler:
My guy Peridiam always comes through
Neon Umbreon lol 😂
Easly the biggest robbery is Gary from BB CAN 1 who number 1 ally accidently vote for the other finalist by putting the wrong key in the box
But its a GOOD TV, i literally crying when Topaz saying that she put wrong card 👁️👄👁️
Well that was just stupidity
Of course, he never should have been able to re-enter the house that late in the game. Having a buyback at final four is ridiculous
Joseph Drous-Kirshenbaum
the only validity to that was an attempt by production to try and break-up the power couple of Emmett and Jillian, but then Topaz went and screwed things up.
Not at all true. If anyone got robbed that season it was Emmett. Gary comes back at FINAL 4 which is ridiculous, and then Dan comes in (an outside source) and shifts Gary’s thought process completely to get rid of Emmett. Emmett played the best game and got screwed by 2 “twists” at the very end that inevitably got him evicted.
The fact that #JusticeforJodi is so visible and yet production has not done anything about giving her a legitimate shot at the game is such a robbery.
Also, both Sharon and Shelli are so obviously members of the “Top 5 Robbed Goddesses Big Brother Edition” list it hurts.
I've never been this mad watching a Peridiam video 🤣
Lol everyone saying paul is on the list and finding out hes not fail to remember the end game is always jury management and his is terrible. Danielle reyes deserved a spot on here more than him even though they both lost for the same reason, but jury managemt was really a thought yet back when she played
IMO you should not have to kiss ass to win a game of Big Brother. The winner should be the person in the final 2 that played the better game, not the one who was better at sucking up. Paul dominated in season 19 and was amazing in 18 and deserved to win both. At least Nicole has an argument tho. Josh winning is just horrible.
Some Guy on YT There’s a difference between kissing up and social game. Part of big brother is that you have to have a physical, mental, AND social game. You need to to play a part in people’s evictions, but still be able to send them out without a bad taste in their mouth. The jury are real people, they have feelings and if you’re in the final 2 you need to earn their respect
@@cantthinkofaname7706 Jury is a huge element of the game of Big Brother. Paul would have won BB19 had he been honest in his Goodbye messages.
It's like he forgot that all the Jury stays in one house together and talk to eachother.
Had he handled his messages like Tyler has this season so far, Paul probably wins by a huge margin.
@@handsoaphandsoap I don't think Danielle has Marcellas regardless, because there's no way he ever votes for her after she convinced him to not use POV on himself, then votes him out
When I 1st saw the love room pillows this year, I did not realize they were showmance names... I thought the Jess and Cody Jody pillow was a Jodi tribute 😂😂😂
AHHHH SO EXCITED TO WATCH
The duo twist and THEN AN ENDURANCE COMP was ridiculous, I mean come ON
Also brendon getting voted back cuz he’s the returnee and going back in the house through a physical comp. also putting 6 returnees in the house is such an obvious alliance. The season was rigged so hard for Rachel
There are plenty of moments where the outcome of the competition is secretly decided by the producers. Sharon, fact/fiction, was one of these moments. The pause was the control room telling her what to say.
WAIT THATS PORCHE IN THE THUMBNAIL? I didn’t recognize her at all, this was the second time I clicked on this video thinking “who is that person” 😂
I feel bad for Danielle Reyes. They changed the rules after her season to not show jury members the diary room recordings until "after" they voted (and some season, like this current one, they don't show them at all during the show). If the jury had never seen her diary room videos, they would have likely voted for her to win. Although that's what makes BB so hard to win. You have to think ahead and so she should have considered the possibility that they would see the videos (and not revealed anything). That's why no matter how good of a game someone plays, if they don't win it all, I can't consider them among the best. If they don't win it all, there was something strategic they did that led to their downfall.
I can’t believe Daniele Reyes isn’t on here
It’s because there was no part that production played into the robbing. Danielle was screwed bc of her own diary rooms bc the jury wasn’t sequestered. All these in the video are blatant uses of production manipulating the game. However I do agree that Danielle was robbed and should’ve won BB3.
She was who I saw people on twitter saying the most too
@@awsumg2168 She wasn't robbed by anything. First of all, Danielle knew that the DRs would be shown as she was a fan of BB2. But more importantly, both Lisa and Jason played better games than her. Danielle played way too hard in the latter portion of the game and everyone in the DR was calling her out for it. She let Jason have too big of a say in their alliance (specifically in keeping Roddy as long as they did) and of course made the dumb mistake of booting Amy over Lisa. She told Lisa and Jason way too much without getting much in return. Meanwhile, Lisa and Jason were playing top notch social games and Lisa, in particularly, was really outplaying Danielle strategically. In the end, she had Marcellas ready to go after Jason and Danielle and had Jason and Danielle ready to go after Marcellas and Amy. Jason played the best overall game, but Lisa deserved her win, especially over Danielle.
I agree to a point, however knowing that the jury wasn’t sequestered at the time should’ve been thought of the moment of walking into the house. Although she is someone who was robbed based on the diary room sessions production decided to show, that was her responsibility. In addition, the decision to take out Amy (who reentered the game) and not Lisa @ Final 3 didn’t help either. Albeit that was Jason and Danielle both being responsible for that. Obviously a great player regardless w/o any additional explanation.
AwsumG21 i 100% disagree. her loss was production’s fault. bb is a tv show, dani was trying to be entertaining by having harsh diary rooms. since dr’s were shown to the ppl who would vote for a winner, production basically intentionally created a broken system where you either sacrifice authentic exciting diary room sessions or a deserving winner.
I never knew about Eric not being able to use the veto but every time I rewatched season 8, I always wondered what the hell he did that for.
Your BB content is getting me through this quarantine
I felt so bad for Jodi :( she seemed like such a nice person and she could’ve potentially made it far
Hey Peridiam! I think you should do a video of the "Top "x" moments of people losing their mind in the Big Brother House"
Love your videos!
When Bayleigh bit her own lip and made it bleed has to be number 1 for that.
This is basically players screwed over by twists. I am bummed that people like Shelby from OTT, Kathy from BB12 and Cody from BB19 weren't on this list but it is what it is. Also Jessie from BB10 but not sure if that one counts since you already mentioned him once. But anyway, good video. You could do the same list for BBCAN since you know how that show loves throwing in twists that screw over players.
*Jessie got robbed by America two times-*
The first one I'm okay with since, ultimately, it was one vote and Dan was 50/50 on if he'd evict Jessie or Memphis that week anyway leaning towards Jessie. But the Coup d'Etat... yeah. Screw that noise.
@@Captain_Subpar If you go back to his hammock talks, however, Dan said that week that his ideal scenario was keeping that large alliance together for one more week (and then making his move.) And the only way that could happen is if he actually campaigned to evict Memphis. Also remember that up until that point, Dan actually had a slightly better relationship with Jessie than Memphis. Now I wouldn't say Jessie was "robbed" S10 like he was in S11, because even if Jessie stays that week, I don't see him getting near the win.
I made a reply on this, but while Jessie did get screwed over by twists, I don’t think Jessie would lasted too much longer on both season. Likely, he would’ve been evicted two eviction later on both seasons.
In season 10, had Dan kept Jessie and evicted Memphis, Jessie would have safe in the next week due to Michelle still winning HoH and going after Keesha and Libra. However, I still think Renny still would’ve her won HoH and put Jessie alongside April to ensure on of them going. Dan, by deciding to actually win comps, would have won the Veto. Even with a connection to Jessie, Dan would’ve kept the nominations in light of April’s bribery stunt. That aside and in mind, Jessie would’ve have known that he was SOL since he was still on the block post-Veto, either knowing beforehand he didn’t have the votes to stay or Dan would’ve stabbed Jessie in the back, knowing April and Ollie would have bigger target on their back by staying intact than apart.
In season 11, had Jeff not used that coup de’ tat, Russell was gone, as Chima had guaranteed at least a tied vote beforehand. However, I still see Michelle winning the next HoH (even if Jessie did well). Her noms would have been Chima and Jessie (instead of of Natalie), with Natalie as the replacement pawn, to ensure one of them going. That said, I still also see Chima getting expelled since the the microphone-stunt (that served as the final straw for the production) still would have happen. In the next HoH, Jordan would have still won. Even had Jessie beaten Jordan, she would’ve taken the HoH prize upon elimination, and Jeff had that comp down (no one was beating him unless he threw it). Jordan’s noms would’ve have been Jessie, as her target, and Natalie (even with Lydia’s annoyance). I still think Jordan would’ve still won the veto. Even if Jordan switched Natalie with Lydia because of her stupidity, Jessie knew he was done by being too threatening, Lydia aside. I’m not as harsh with Jeff using that power since the overall power in the house was shifting already. Jeff using that power brought it both one week sooner (and shifting it back one week sooner) had it happen “naturally” (or organically you can be in Big Brother)
@@marklisowski6549 Jessie wasn't winning BB10 regardless, you're right on that. Your BB11 analysis is very very shaky however - most importantly the claim that Chima would have gotten expelled regardless. That whole thing happened specifically because of the coup d'etat. Chima was claiming "rigging" everytime she declined to go into the DR and while she was throwing her mic! The coup d'etat directly led to that. It's still Chima fault for acting like that, but it wouldn't have happened but for the coup d'etat. Additionally - you can't reliably predict comp wins in that alternative scenario. First of all, Jessie would still be in the house, but more importantly, the morale of that entire wouldn't have been in shambles. They weren't just pissed because Jessie went home, they were pissed because they realized America was against them lol. Second of all, Jeff and Jordan only actually started caring about the game once Jeff got the coup. Had that not happened, those two would have been perfectly fine to sit in their hammock and await their fate. Russ (who wanted to work with Jessie anyways) would have been gone and Michelle wouldn't have had a strong alliance to float to.
There's no guaranteeing obviously that Jessie wins HOH had the coup not been in place - but it certainly seemed like that.
@@shanexyz3972 You do have have some points. That said, I’m not as harsh with Jeff’s as I think things would have balanced out regardless. Speaking of balance, the Coup de tat also had some balance, or at least the one on the US, which a lot of people forget, and how thing immediately unfolded demonstrated that.
Jeff could not vote alongside Chima by using that power. The actual vote was 3-2, so Natalie barely survived (since Lydia wasn’t the brightest decision maker as Kevin knew what he was doing, even if it leaves a bad taste your mouth). Also, by getting de-throned, Chima was allowed to compete the following HOH (where she normally wouldn’t), and it came down to her and Michelle for HOH.
(Canada’s version that Britney got was broken, and I was glad Ashleigh is one my favorite BBCAN player for lighting a fire under her ass to win the next 3 PoV, amidst her re-rerouted HOH, and still got Britnee out.)
Thank you for bringing up the BB13 twist and the asterisk next to Rachel Reilly's win. That was such blatant riggage. There's a decent chance Rachel does not win the game without that twist occurring.
Rachel was a comp beast. She def deserve the win no cap
The fact that i can already tell Naeha from bbcan3 isn't on here even though she flipped the house in 24 hours in her favor and was evicted because of an instant eviction. Forever robbed.
I would love a 1st losers season. Where 1st ones evicted come back.
I totally agree, i’ve been saying this for a few years now. It would’ve been much more interesting than this “all star” season
When Julie asks Jesse why he didn't try harder🥴🥴
Im still shocked that Paul didnt win either seasons of BB that he was in. He was a fuckin master, and a bunch of butt-hurt people made sure he didnt win.
Jessie got fucked over big time, he didn't even get a chance to fight for his safety.
That idiot Jeff couldn’t even pronounce coup de’tat. Jessie was very much screwed as was his alliance because they fell apart after he left.
Omg I’m so glad u involved Sharon and hamstergate because I feel like people forgot that totally BS question. I feel like she should’ve won the season and won that F4 HOH.
I'll play devil's advocate and make the argument that Rachel still would've won BB13 without the duos twist. Hear me out, but theoretically it could have gone:
- Rachel wins the veto, Porsche puts up either Shelly or Adam in her place, probably Adam, and Jordan is evicted.
- Rachel wins HOH, and puts up Kalia and Porsche, with Kalia being the target since Rachel knows she's the biggest jury threat. Plus, Kalia had put Rachel up twice at this point, giving Rachel more justification to go after her. Adam wins veto, doesn't use it, and Kalia is evicted.
- Adams wins HOH, and nominates Rachel and Porsche. Rachel and Porsche make a deal to take each other to final 2, knowing Shelly and Adam will take each other and that needs to be broken up. This final 2 deal could have also been made the week before when it was 100% set at that point that Kalia was going. Porsche wins veto and evicts Shelly.
- The rest of the season plays out exactly as it did in real life. Rachel wins HOH, evicts Adam, and wins the season 4-3, getting votes from Brendon (duh), Jeff & Jordan (again, duh), and Shelly, who doesn't respect Porsche's game, and can appreciate that Rachel was able to convince Porsche to evict Shelly at final 4. Plus, her mending her friendship with Jeff & Jordan at the jury house who both campaign for Rachel helps.
Again, it's all theoretical, and any one variable can change this entire scenario. Rachel might have nominated Kalia and Shelly at final 5. Who's to say? I'm just saying there was at least a chance.
@joseph ofori Yes, there are plenty of variables. I just don't like when fans say Rachel had no chance to win without the duos twist when I honestly believe she still could have.
Lesson learned- production should STOP MEDDLING! We just need a basic bb season with 12 guests TOPS. no twists, just let 'em play
Some are good though, I've always liked double evictions and food comps are great
I am fed up with people watching reality shows and complaining, they seem to know everything behind the scenes, its fake, production manipulates,please people then make your lives easy only watch scripted shows, but the you might still have a problem you might hates how it ends.Get a life.
Some ones you missed:
1. Karen (BB5) - Played the best social and strategic game of the season. She managed to turn Drew against Diane and Diane against Drew at different points in the game. She gets severely twist screwed though. First, the twin twist takes out her biggest ally and then a rigged F5 veto allows the one person who Karen doesn't want to win to win.
2. Porsche (BB13) - Shelly played the best game that season, but chances were that she wasn't going to win regardless of Pandora's box. Porsche, on the other hand, played the second best game that season and had a really good shot of winning but for Pandora's Box. If there's no Pandora - Jordan goes home, then Rachel wins and Shelly goes, then Adam wins and Rachel goes. Then Porsche has a good shot of winning the FHOH and winning against either Kalia or Adam.
3. Zach (BB8) - Eric obviously ruled BB8, but people overlook Zach. Zach did a great job floating between both sides of the Little Julie Chens and played crucial parts in almost every vote in the second part of the game. He not only had to face an unfair Father/Daughter pair, but also had to face Eric himself who was paid to help said duo. Despite this, he makes F3 where he would have had a blowout win against either Dick or Danielle but loses the FinalHOH to Dick...after Dick cheats lmao. You can tell Dick (who admitted to cheating via his HOH letters) is able to read Zach's answer (and you know production knew as they never had this setup again.)
And not really a robbed g.oddess, but Big Meech did sort of get screwed in BB18. She was forced to become HOH due to the care package, but was also forced to share the power with Natalie. Nat essentially makes her turn on the Sitting Ducks and then the next week, she isn't allowed to play for HOH and goes home. Pretty shitty imo.
Shane XYZ I don’t agree with Porsche bc Porsche was aligned with Rachel. Rachel isn’t guaranteed to go home at final 4 if Shelly is in the game
@@awsumg2168 Shelly wouldn't be in the game (which is part of my point about saying she was robbed.) Adam would have HOH, Porsche would get POV, and no way does she choose Rachel over Kalia. And on the small chance that Kali wins POV since she's still in the game - Rachel absolutely goes home.
Shane XYZ If no Pandora Box. Rachel wins F6 veto, Jordan goes home. Rachel wins F5 HOH still, Kalia goes home. Then Adam wins F4 HOH and Porsche chooses between Shelly & Rachel. She evicts Shelly. Rachel still wins F3 HOH and wins the season by a vote of 4 to 3.
@@awsumg2168 This is incorrect. Rachel wins F5 HOH, puts up Kalia and Shelly, Adam wins POV and the two votes are Adam and Porsche. Porsche obviously votes out Shelly as does Adam who had already cut ties with Shelly in the Jeff vote in favor of Kalia/Porsche.
AwsumG21 How does Shelly not go home though over Kalia? Rachel and Porsche had a secret alliance and Rachel hated Shelly. It would be Shelly and Kalia on the block with Shelly being the target.
TL;DR Most robbed, Literally anyone when there is an America’s choice twist
I wonder what would've happened if Eric used the veto. He wasn't allowed to, but what if he did anyway. I wonder if production would've cut the ceremony on the spot, or more likely, just revoked his americas player money. Probably would've been worth it if it meant him being much more likely to win the show
Cameron Heard from BB19 was in my opinion the most robbed contestant. He had chosen a poison apple which had him on the block and went against the vote wanting an eviction competition instead of a vote. He had to now face a vote and was evicted. Paul later took his place. It is literally every BB superfan’s worst nightmare if you’re ever selected.
With Sharon, I think the issue is that she was evicted, and not brought back bc of a twist, but bc of the pair twist failing, I think because she shouldn't have been in the game anyway at that point production didn't want to risk her going further or even winning.
Okay but she would've never been evicted if it weren't for production forcing her to be tied down to her idiot of an ex who got evicted in the first place. Production screwed her twice
Definitely Tyler season 20 no doubt. That was definitely his win for sure, he ran the entire house that season and was most definitely the best player but bitter jurors took his win from him
What angers me the most about Tyler being robbed was the reason WHY. At least 2 jurors Baily and Rockstar voted against Tyler for no other reason than the fact that he is a White man of European descent and his opponent was a Filipino lesbian.
The PROOF of this claim is in the live feeds, Baily says to Rockstar and I quote " Jee Rockstar, you hate White people almost as much as I do" Just by coincidence (not) both Baily and Rockstar vote against him in the finale. With only 9 jurors, it is tough to overcome 2 votes like that.
@@jackb9830 how'd you like tyler coming back next season and offering himself up to go home so the two "Queens" could stay in together cause they were representative of something bigger than themselves?
@@Somethin_Slix Excellent question!
I didn't like it one bit! It illustrated just how naive Tyler is about racial and political topics. In general, Tyler is way too nice for his own good and naive on top of it. Bayleigh is a typical Black bully. She sensed weakness in Tyler and went on the attack. Tyler was horrified by this, not because he was victimized, but rather that someone might misconstrue him as an r-word for simply having a public feud with a Black woman. So in order to squash this perception that some people MIGHT have had about him, he decides to slavishly grovel to her in this manner.
It was sad and pathetic, but not surprising. But I do think he finally learned his lesson, I hope.
Yes, Bayleighs initial attack on Tyler was racially motivated. Bayleigh said on the live feeds, and I quote "gee Rockstar, you hate White people almost as much as me"
@@jackb9830 I don't even like Bayleigh, but I don't think her vote for Kaycee was purely race related, because you also have to factor in the huge blowup between Bayleigh and Tyler where he says that he didn't need her jury vote to win as another factor that influenced her decision. And then she incorrectly thought he'd influenced Angela to target her because he thought Bayleigh was the one who won the hacker comp and got him put on the block that week, so that also plays into her decision
I rewatch season 9 recently that ginnie pig question was definitely the worst
Ironic part was they were her “babies” and they wound up screwing her over.
Alex Coladonato & Parker Somorsworth, also from Season 9 were equally robbed as some of these guys were. They went home because Jen was dating Ryan (Alison would've been equally robbed) and Alex was evicted because Amanda Hansen became a pariah.
You can also say the same for Cassi Colvin & Dominic Briones. There was no way the house was going to evict Adam or Shelley because the fans were never going to target non-threats.
Alex was a total asshole to Amanda so he got what was deserved. Cassi was just a catty bitch and Dom made himself a big target, especially by getting Daniele to flip on the veterans.
Since I haven’t seen any comments, most robbed is Everyone but Carol from BBCAN8. Getting screwed out by production or twist (especially in Canada) is one thing. Having the season prematurely shut down by your government in light of a pandemic is something else.
Since Carol both wanted to go home and actively trying to get herself evicted without quitting/self eviction (like Nico did) (probably her justifying it as a mercy kill), her getting sent home earlier was a blessing in more ways than one.
Great video as always, and great channel.
Porsche will always be the most robbed final 2 competitor to me. Rachel won because more then half the jury were returning players that she all knew outside the house and all voted for her to win no duh. Brandon, Jeff, Jordon, Dani...
Dani actually voted for Porsche to win and Shelly was the one who voted for Rachel. But other than that, I agree.
Not really. All she though do well in quite a few comps, she floated heavily the entire game (golden key or not) and often based her game decision more so on who was floating with at the time over than clearly communicating that move she made were actually and solely in her best interest.
@@marklisowski6549 float or not she did make it to the finals and lost by 1 vote. So she clearly made good enough decisions to warrant a win.
Im saying she’s robbed because half the jury promised Rachel the vote before they even got into the house.
This is exactly why we dont get half new competitors and half returning players anymore
@@MikeGlasses with any case of an all-star or player returning, that is always prone and even likely happen regardless if it is Big Brother, Survivor (which has been more prevalent in pre-gaming), and notably MTV’s The Challenge. Also, Porsche did have the votes to win, even 3 vets voting for another vet to win. Shelley, not Adam (who was bitter towards Rachel for not taking him the end), decided, to a lot of surprises and amidst many issues Shelley and Rachel has with each other throughout the season, voted for Rachel. Up until that, Rachel looked like she thought she lost.
@@MikeGlasses Also, the setup with season 13 was to have the newer players at numbers advantage starting out in light of who they brought back.
how do u feel about this season so far peridiam?
Not great!
@@Peridiam Agreed!
@@Peridiam I'm so ready for your season review. Total train wreck of a season, and we haven't even gotten to the point when Production usually meddles in the outcome yet!
With how static the season has been, I don’t production could have done much. A few of the power and safety did help a little, but it was short-lived and no one in the out could get any traction
@@marklisowski6549 The closest a week got to exciting for me was Week 6 because of David and Kevin both being safe and Tyler almost getting evicted over Ian. But other than that? This season has been a complete snorefest.
If you haven’t already, you should do a list on the worst cases of bitter juries
I was waiting for this yay
America & Production shouldn’t be making choices that rig the game. Glass House was a copycat of Big Brother but was completely influenced by America & ended up being a trash show that lasted 1 season
Hell, Big Brother itself wouldn't have gotten a 3rd season if they stuck to their season 1 format
I would love to see a Canada pick on this list like Mitch. Canada has had some heartbreaking twist screws.
I think like half the cast in season 3 got screwed over. Those instant evictions and triple evictions (where HOH nominates 3 people and 2 go home) were just ridiculous. Plus a twist every week that season. Like what is strategy?
Naeha and Bruno got screwed on season 3, production showing Topaz making her decision to the rest of the house was stupid.
@@ryangaskin4938 Unfortunately, that was bound to happen with how the first 2 season went. Also, BBCAN players deserve a separate video with this. Most screed from Canada is Bruno. Had it not been for twist, Bruno would’ve lasted at least a week later with both season. However, Canada, both production and fans, wanted the Fembots to stay longer, and Kevin got such a lucky break that William won that hidden power.
@@ryangaskin4938 if done and placed right, a triple eviction and instant eviction, can work to demonstrate to never get to comfortable in Big Brother. How Canada does it is questionable. I wouldn’t mind if the US would a do re-work version on an instant eviction. The US version at least showed a better version in both structure (playing double after another) as well as Tyler and Christmas at least tried to do something by attempting to blindside Nicole.
BB can 6 with erica. That just sucked to see. She was the best competitor in there and got blindsided by a twist
Vanessa and Daniele deserve to be on this list...
Vanessa was robbed by that dumbass final HOH competition.
Well no, losing fair and square isn’t being robbed.
Although jury statements could get very random, it was something that used in that way until they re-tweaked with both Celebrity Big Brother and seasons 20 and 21
Don't forget the original robbed BB player, Brittany Petros from Big Brother 1, who was voted out because George's family rigged the votes.
that fact that 2 PLAYERS WERE ROBBED BC OF HOMOPHOBIC JEFF
The producers excuse about people not having enough time to vote for Eric to use the veto or not makes sense. The veto competition takes place before the actual episode airs, by the time they aired the episode, the veto meeting would have already happened but it was unjust that he wasn't told beforehand about that disadvantage.
Another suggestion for a video, in light of the triple eviction upcoming as well as Shelley being discussed is cases based her jury, which is doing moves one eviction too soon.
frank as america's "favorite" houseguest... shoot me now.
ive got onto the survivor/big brother side of youtube and i dont want to leave
And Cody was super screwed in BB19 having to nominate a 1/3 of the house when he reign should have ended when the chick left
Jodi for BB23!!
Jodi yassssss
Love the vids man
How did you not mention David from BB season 21, not this season but last year.
After seeing him play the game, we got lucky with him being evicted night 1.
@@loganhall4297 likely, David would have made jury for not being threatening at all while other Houseguests would’ve been targeted, especially as the dysfunction as Gr8ateful and Six Shooters unfolded. What would’ve done David in is Jackson’s first HOH. I can see the whole botched pawn situation in the camp director twist happening then, causing Jackson to nominate (over flawed game logic) David (instead of Analyze) as a backup target alongside Christie. Given Christie pulled a magic rabbit out her ass with that Taco Tuesday stunt, David would’ve been evicted 9th (likely not playing All-stars due to lackluster gameplay). Ironically, had Analyze made it past Prank week to compete in that endurance comp (something she had been consistently good with), that is where things would’ve gotten interesting with Jackson.
With both season, David is a hybrid version of Da’Vonne and Winston. Like Da’Vonne, David has certain attributes that can work to his advantage, but like her, he doesn’t have a clue on what do with it effectively. Like Winston, David looks the part on someone who appears to do well in certain to an array of competitions but when they actually they compete, the opposite holds true to what the surface indicates.
Would you consider making a separate video dedicated to BBCAN players who were robbed? Someone like Bruno definitely earns an honorable mention, I think he's up there as one of the most screwed over players. Losing because of twists in both BBCAN 3 because of the Coup d'Brittney and in BBCAN 5 because of the black hole veto. He's at least equal to Jesse in terms of being screwed over because they were both ousted due to a Coup Power, but adding the black hole veto really pushes him over the edge for me as the most robbed player. I think he's got the best chance to win season 3 before getting evicted, and I think he goes deep in 5 but probably loses to Demetres assuming he wins all those comps. Nevertheless he still goes really deep in both seasons and had really good odds to win.
I feel like this video should be called "Players that were screwed by production"
Not you using Porsche as clickbait, she deserved to be on here
the shelly one is basically the porche and kalia one
Porsche not being on here was in light of the fact she got to the end. Saying she got robbed is a stretch since Porsche did have the votes there, especially with Adam not happy with Rachel voting him out. It came down to Shelley’s vote, and Rachel was able to secure it while Porsche failed to do so.
@@marklisowski6549Shelly only voted for Rachel cuz production clued her in about her family getting death threats / Jeff bullying her in jury. Plus if the Pandora’s box BS never happened There’s a good chance Rachel would’ve been evicted that week, if it wasn’t her then Jordan. Then Rachel would’ve left at final 4 cuz Porsche won veto. Yeah Porsche was robbed
@@clovesevina9763 Jordan would’ve likely been voted out, even if Rachel didn’t win the veto, in a similar lane of why Shelley stabbed Jeff in the back as well as Shelley kinda wanted to win in the worst way, and Rachel won both seen as a goat player as well as someone who be used to break up Kalia and Porsche, who were a duo. Also, sometime in the following week and/or at Final 4, Porsche and Rachel did re-kindle their relationship and formed a Final 2 (Rachel specifically mentioned that when she voted out Adam). So, Porsche, who won the final veto, would still keep Rachel and used Shelley’s tactics against her, voted her out (Adam won Final 4 HoH, but if Shelley somehow got a clutch win, then it would’ve been Adam.)
@@marklisowski6549 yeah they rekindled their relationship after Porsche won veto
You should do a follow up with top five players that could have/should have won!
I don’t think the UA-cam algorithm likes you. I literally watch every one of your videos on Big Brother and rarely do they suggest new videos of yours to me. Laaaaame.
Paul deserved to win his first season. He played the best game and Josh sucked. He should have won and then not came back and ruined his rep bc he was a great player
I think it really was the Q & A that made Paul lose bc josh just had better answers but I still think Paul should have won
I love this channel
Great List!!!
BB13: I never understood why the rookie players didn't pick both Rachel and Jordan to split them up in the event that one wins safety/veto... The pairings were never seen from what I remember. This would essentially make Pandora's Box twist not that impactful being that the house would be able to control the vote in the event a Vet's pair wins veto.
the pairings were made the same way it was at the start of the season, players just chose them. If any of the houseguests asked Jordan/Rachel to be in a team they could just say no
That Eric robbery made me hate Big Brother.
I think what they meant when they said America had no time to vote for Eric's veto was because of the schedule of the game and live feeds vs the episodes. e.g. Eric wins veto on Saturday, the veto ceremony is on Monday. The veto episode doesn't premiere until Wednesday, so the viewing and voting public don't even know Eric has the veto until many days after the fact. Voting would only work if BB spoiled ahead of time that Eric won or by those that watch the feeds, but they want the casuals to vote so they get millions of votes in. That's probably what they meant when they said that, so it makes sense to me, however silly it is lol
[SPOILER] I notice the seasons are 8 9 11 13 14. Building off your "eras" video, I definitely think that middle period was defined in large part by repeated production interference. (Not to say production interference isn't a going-on now, but I think they've gotten more subtle about it.)
You’re videos are the best
talk about the underlying racism and social issues in big brother
He won’t lol
You have to wait for BB22 to play out, because that story could have a completely different arc depending on how David finishes for example.
there isn't any
Stan Marsh season 15 says hello. Also minorities tend to not go far in the game. Usually outcasted by large all-white alliances (this season being exhibit A). Or even last season (? Or maybe the season before?) every single minority was voted out right away. Literally the first 4/5 evicted were non-white. While season 15 may have been one of the only times with blatantly racist moments, I’ve noticed tons of racist undertones in how the cast interacts with itself each season.
Ryan Gaskin yup!!! idk why its so hard for people to understand that
as far as Eric's veto goes...it's played on Sat and meeting is Monday....there would never be time for America to vote based on when the episodes air...he should have been told so he could throw every veto so he was never in that spot..
Was definitely expecting Vanessa to be on here
You should try to interview some of the pst contestants to find out the truth on some of this stuff, especially America’s player. That would be so awesome
Eric's name was never in BB8s random draw for veto players and you cant convince me otherwise.
Don't even get me started on how wrong they did Eric😤
Okay, but we need the bbcan version of this too, cause they are way worse with their twists.
Bbcan 1- Emmett wins if Dan Gheesling doesn’t come into the game and basically tell Gary not to take Emmett to the f2
Bbcan3- the Double Veto saved Brittany and eventual winner Sarah when they were pretty screwed and Bruno suddenly goes home
Bbcan4- Mitch Moffit played a flawless game only to be exposed by the dumbest twist which allowed 2 Evicted HGs to watch feeds and then one of them to come back and share everything
Bbcan5- kinda screwed Gary cause backwards week HOH was won by Dem who wouldn’t have nominated him in the first place in a normal week
Jessies eviction is always the most frustrating one for me
wha- how is this 2 hours old
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I love the level six-esque intro
2:24 That's the vaguest question I have ever heard
Paul Paul Paul Paul Paul
We all know Danielle Reyes was the most robbed
Do Top 5 jury members who won their way back in the house
Any thoughts on the Robbed finalist, Dan, Paul, Danielle, Tyler, Paul again?
I see alot of people talk about rewatching seasons of Big Brother. Yet I have never been able to figure out how to do so? Is there like a certain website or place where you can download seasons. I mean never seen anything in DVD or Blu-ray form thats forsure. If anyone knows let me know!!
Yayyy a new video
I agree that Jodi is probably the most robbed. But I would probably give an honorable mention to Parker and Alex from BB9, who had *really* bad players as partners and basically got screwed because their partners were targeted. I also believe that if Sharon didn't get back in the game, we'd still see her on this list, just because of her partner. Maybe you could also add Bruno from BBCAN3 and Mitch from BBCAN4 if we want to include BBCAN, but that would make the list way too long.