@@olivermensinger6022 why so much Derrick slander he made people believe he was a non threat (outside of Frankie and Donny) oh he helps pregame and people hate him? I hate the big brother community. Your favorites suck at the game and you guys bash the whole season. Fucking babies I swear.
With Dr. Will, this disastrous gameplay was a blessing since he had to re-tool from how his game backfired early on. Had Chilltown been successful in Week 1 of BBUS2 he may have been voted later on due to an unchecked ego than winning.
I think BB2 might be been the last season had this not happened. It would have been so boring to me. Dr. Will became a comic villain. I know I started watching weekly because of him.
I will say in defense of Ian, Frank was a RIDICULOUS threat that szn and everyone had recognized that well up to that point. It was gonna, and did, need NUMEROUS shots to take him out. It was fortunate how it played out for Ian, but that game you needed to take every shot possible at Frank until it finally worked, bc he beasted all the comps that szn
Where the issue lies is keeping Ashley over Joe (by pawning Jenn) could have worked a little more in Ian’s favor by flattering Frank (who wasn’t going just yet), until Dan sold him out post funeral.
I personally don’t really like big brother (much prefer survivor for the adventure and the bush conditions) but Dr Will is the gift the keeps on giving. And clearly the worst BB move ever was made by production, when they didn’t sequester the jury on BB3 and thus robbed Danielle Reyes of her win. She played a flawless game that year.
You are forgetting they didn’t sequester the jury until that happening. They original setup was for the jury to go home and watch the game and live feeds. Had Danielle won, they may have continue that for quite some time, likely until 9 or, if prior, someone exploiting the looseness of how the jury was setup, like what happened with the Veto selection and even comp being into re-tooled to how it is currently.
Also, as Peridiam mentioned, the fatal flaw with Jason and Danielle was keeping Lisa over Amy at Final 4. Even if Amy win the Final HOH, she would have had an uphill battle, at best, against either one of them to win, even with their feelings of Danielle.
@@marklisowski6549 I think the downfall of Danielle's game started at final five. It wasn't necessary to do what she did to Marcellus, especially for the sake of keeping Lisa. Plus, the whole Marcellus affair helped turn the jury against Danielle. And then, as you pointed out, was the foolish decision on the part of Danielle and Jason to evict Amy at final four. At that point, I threw my hands in the air and concluded that it was Lisa's destiny to win Big Brother 3, because Danielle and Jason had blown two clear shots at a strong threat to win the final HOH and the only threat to either of them winning whole game.
I just realized that Jen Johnson's shirt that reads "Jen's a Member" is a play on mensa member. She's really more clever than I realized. I've been analyzing her shirts for years and some of them have taken a really long time for me to understand. I still don't understand Janelle's shirt that reads, "Baby make it nice" either because it's that brilliant or that stupid.
i think ian said on the bb22 live feeds that he wanted to throw the final 9 hoh to danielle by putting a really high number in the tiebreaker but danielle just put a higher number lol
I tend to favor moves like Adam's final six nominations, Kaycee taking out Angela, and Steve throwing the veto as being the worst simply because they happened so late in the game when there was less wiggle room and fewer variables to consider.
I think Kaycee's move to take out Angela actually was a good one, because by that point in the season, Angela and Tyler were super close, so with Angela around, Kaycee is no longer guaranteed to be Tyler's number one, therefore by taking Angela out, she secures her position in the F2
@@NYChica23 also, had Tyler been knocked at Final 4, Brett and himself may have been able to campaign effectively for Angela to win over Kaycee or JC. While the most of that jury hated Angela to no end, some to enough of them would have eaten shit and seen merits from Angela for her comps wins, overall high relevance from the start of the game, and her involvement with pulling most of the biggest moves that season. Luckily, with Kaycee ousting Angela, that prevented any potential of JC and Angela being the two finalists (No, thank you on that)
I would've said Drew's first HOH on 5 was a disaster but it actually got the house feeling sorry for him and pushed him into alliances since people fell for his naiveté. Same sorta thing happens to Dan in the first weeks of 10 since losing both his allies helped him way more than actually keeping them around.
Karen was going to vote Ika out and he wanted the vote to be a tie so he could send Demitries packing but when Karen refused to play ball and force Kevin’s hand
@@georgehand While Karen was going to vote out Ika, Dillon might not have. Using the veto was still stupid. Even Ika was voted out one round earlier, it would have gained Kevin even more jury favor by sending Ika to the jury house sooner. He turned a win-win situation into a backfire that forced him into a win or evict situation. Even Kevin knew, at the time, that should have sent him to jury.
@@georgehand Also, if Kevin wanted that to happened, he should have put Karen instead of Dillon, with how much of loose cannon Karen was and how loyal Dillon was to Karen as well as Dillon’s past rocky relationship with Demetres. Why Kevin letting Karen be, knowing how she was, was dumbfounding.
Adam's move really wasn't that bad when you really think about it. He was able to secure James' jury vote with it, and the other players viewed as a smaller threat to win after it. Plus, even if the worse case scenario of James winning veto happened, Natalie gets backdoored and he's still not in that bad of a position heading into Final 5, especially as James & Sharon would be targeting Ryan and possibly even Shiela over him.
Compared to other players rectifying bad game move, especially with comp wins/prowess, Adam’s bad move was just sloppy and, even if he still didn’t nominate James or James actually won that Veto, it could have been handled better.
I think it would be really cool if you did a video like “Survivor players and there Big Brother counterparts” off the top of my head maybe Jeremy and Derrick, Adam and Steve ? Cool idea i think
My top 5 is honestly completely different. Here's some moves I would view as worse than most of those: Jordan taking out Lydia, a total non-threat, over Kevin or Natalie at Final 7. Ian being Quack-Pack strong at FINAL 5 and refusing to consider taking out any of Dan/Shane/Danielle. Steve throwing the Final 4 Veto. Josh taking Paul to the end over Christmas and banking on a VERY bitter jury. I do agree about Jackson's Day 44 antics being up there, though.
I don't think Josh taking Paul to the end was a bad move when you think about it, because he'd already exposed every single one of Paul's lies to the jury via the goodbye messages, and combined with the fact that he knew Cody completely hated Paul and could easily influence Mark/Elena's votes, then that move becomes a lot smarter than you think it is
@@NYChica23 Josh’s decision to take and winding up winning over Paul can be described as jury management. While Josh didn’t have the best jury management ever, it was sure much better than Paul’s, who didn’t learn from taking the jury aspects of the game seriously from their prior lost. If anything, Paul was worse on their second time playing.
@@marklisowski6549 Paul definitely was worse the second time around, because the first time, their only major mistake was not realizing that Nicole already had 4/9 jury votes that were locked for her and taking James to the F2 instead, but in 19, they had no winning scenario because of how bad their jury management was
Robyn Kass former casting director for Big Brother got fired for casting Jackson Michie after finding out that he was coming off of meth during the show.
Kinda ironic that the extra veto the week of Dan’s funeral was basically put there by the production to save Dan but that’s probably the thing that lost him the game in the end…like the funeral still works w/o it Ian goes Britney probably has sum reluctance to Dan but I can’t see her being able to flip the script on him and Frank and Jen likely stays longer if Ian isn’t in those comps too
But, when Sheryl got evicted, Will wasn't happy, but Sheryl was diagnosed with breast cancer immediately after her eviction. So, you could say Will saved her life.
Whenever I see Big Brother's editted version of Jackson's day 44 blowup with the Six Shooters, it feels like they editted it to feel like a core meltdown.
I remember when the Six Shooters fell apart and I loved it because I HATED almost everybody in that alliance except for Tommy. Now if only I had a satisfying ending that didn’t get buried again on Week 2 of the very next season
As a big brother super fan I think we need to break it down to Top 5 worst moves by a evil player and Top 5 worst moves by a non-evil player. Because if we did this than you can put Will in the top 5 maybe even the top spot on the evil side list and include Dan, Jun, Jackson, Adam, Rachel (floaters grab a life vest). On the non-evil player side is just as hard to have a Top 5 because no winner played a perfect game - Derick, Andy, Ian, Jordan, Nicole, Kaycee and you can even throw in Xaiver here as well.
Lowkey Dan’s Veto Roulette was a dumb move. All of his allies were pissed at him, the other alliance hated his guts, and could have cost him jury votes if the jury was not equally angry with Memphis. I think Dan is one of the BB GOATS, but one of my hottest takes is that I think he loses against Memphis if Memphis acted like BB16 Cody
I promise you it wasn’t. At first, when people make moves without telling other people or running it by them. They will get upset. They’ll be mad but then later on, their anger subsides and the players have a week for that anger to subside. Which is a lot of time. In Dan’s case. His play was actually really beneficial for him. He knew Ollie would flip out and nobody would believe him. They would think that Ollie is just mad that Dan put him up. Even if they do believe him. It doesn’t matter. He’s brought so much attention to himself that Dan’s antics will gloss over. Memphis was the only one who was really affected negatively by this (besides Ollie and Michelle of course lol) Memphis now has in the back of his mind that Dan could turn on him just as he broke his promise to Ollie
To be fair to Will in BB2, if Justin was not kicked out he and Krista would have likely voted Nicole out. This would have completely changed the game, allowing Chilltown to possibly walk all the way to the endgame
Ragan and Rachel definitely have to be on there, because they fought constantly in the BB house, but after the game, Ragan ended up being one of the groomsmen in Brendon & Rachel's wedding
@@NYChica23 there is also Britney and Rachel. See Janelle’s and Britney’s elimination, especially in full, for that one with how close Rachel and Britney are now. Nicole and Victor is a good one; Victor sold that well during his Amazing Race intro. Paulie and Da’Vonne went from clashing in the Big Brother jury house to using the redemption house on the Challenge to keeping each other alive for half of the re-try rounds that season, resulting in Paulie and Natalie making it to the end that season.
Also, a video suggestion would be the flip side of that, with people that were close to each other in Big Brother have issues with each other post season. Examples include the break-ups of James and Natalie as well as Mark and Elena, Chilltown’s fallout, Kathryn’s falling out with Jackson and even Holly, Kaycee foolishly backstabbing Bayleigh on the Challenge, which destroyed the friendship they had prior, Nicole’s bitterness at Cody blindsiding her, resulting in her cutting off ties from Cody, Derrick, to even Julie herself.
I didn't watch BB1. I worked at night and had Thursday and Friday off. I liked Boogie because he wore a UF shirt on the first episode. He got voted out early. But I still watched on Thursday night. I thought I'll watch until Dr. Will is evicted. Towards the end of the season, I started taping the other two episodes.
My worst moves would be BB5 - Drew Nominating his own showmance BB14 - Ian taking out his own team. BB17 - Steve Evicting Jackie during the double BBCAN3 - Sarah Evicting her own ally, Willow. BBCAN4 - The brothers threatening to renominate themselves BBCAN5 -Kevin Renominating Jackie and Dillon on both his HOH's when he could've taken out a bigger threat.
One other minor thing to mention about Eric survive Dick's backdoor attempt. It seems that based on live feed leaks such as this one: ua-cam.com/video/ic56tDkc3L0/v-deo.html , the producers may or may not have actually helped Eric stay over Kail that week via DR sessions. Not sure if it their influence was necessary or not, but there's another question mark about the America's Player twist that season. lol
I think a sizable portion of this fandom underestimates the degree to which Jackson's social game was reliant on Holly, lol. Physically/comps wise her carried her... but socially/strategically she carried him 😆
@@johnnywalker984 all while being the most BORING houseguest to ever play, his comp wins are overshadowed by all the bullshit he would lash out on others was like
Adam: "is Ryan mad at me??" Sheila: "yeah. Of course! What, do you want him to like.. throw you a party?!" Lmao I always forget how funny Sheila could be sometimes
The season with Jack and Jackson was the first one I stopped watching. (The second all stars was the second.) So I can’t rank that season. I’d say Dick was worst because without America’s player, I don’t know how he wins that season.
I wonder if Nicole is gonna be on this list. Because she is an underrated winner despite all the hate she gets (she’s overhated in my opinion) she has a solid game but with a lot of flaws. Edit: Okay but Day 44 is the most iconic day in Modern BB History. This was the day BB21 actually got good… for about like 3 or 4 weeks
@Natalie Right?! She gets hate for way too many things when she’s only done like a handful of stuff. It doesn’t excuse her of being held accountable for what she says tho.
There’s also Jordan, and Jeff, turning on Michelle and Russell in bb11. Sure, Jeff acted on that, but Jordan encouraged him to it because of a thing she had against Russell, and she made it worse in her shouting match with him. That’s why she lost his jury vote, and she’d also lose Michelle’s jury vote had she been up against anyone other than Natalie.
That was actually 50/50 on that. If Jeff didn’t target Russell, Russell, unless Jeff and Jordan get Natalie out on Jeff’s HOH out or talk Michelle into using the next veto, would target and take out Jeff next. Even if her “fabrication” didn’t work, Natalie would still plant a bug but with Russell instead of Jeff.
@@marklisowski6549 I doubt it. Russell may be short tempered, but he isn’t as clueless as Jeff and Jordan. Also, it was Kevin who made that fabrication, not Natalie. She’s as good of a liar as Ronnie, which is NOT good.
I feel like Jordan from bb11. She’s one of my favorite players but her move with Russel was pretty dumb. Since Jeff ended up going home but honestly, I feel like Jeff is doomed either way because Russell really was going to backdoor him.
In a scene after the double eviction, it was revealed that Ian wanted to backdoor Frank in that vote, but the Quack Pack talked him out of it. Also, it was a very bad move on Dan’s part to evict Shane over Ian.
@@olivermensinger6022 maybe for making the end, but not for winning. He definitely had a much better shot against Danielle, and he was much better off facing Shane in the final competition than against Ian. There’s a difference between a big move and a good move. Dan was too short-sighted, and it cost him the game. That was also notable in his “funeral”, specifically in lashing out at Danielle, which was pointless and only made him look bad.
Drew's HOH in Week 3 was pretty bad. Had the Twins not gotten HOH-Itis, him taking out Holly would have blown up in his face, he would have gotten 7th place unless him and Diane were able to win out.
Shocked nothing Josh did is on here, but ultimately him being loud and in peoples faces with pots and pans helped him because no one took him seriously and he was dragged to end cuz Paul thought he could beat him 😂
I'm not when putting thought into it. That golden apple he took while it did piss ppl off, it was his saving grace. Cody 100% has him on the block and likely tries to evict him and maybe even has Josh go home unless Paul says otherwise like he did a few weeks later. Doing Paul's dirty work (normally wouldn't pay off but in this case does cuz Paul tries way too hard to wipe his hands clean when plotting hg's demises) and even evicting his closest ally who even had a broken foot and taking a veteran like Paul to the final 2 he did but as he put it best "call me crazy" well.... he almost was, except he knew Paul had terrible jury management and was correct on assuming the jury would be bitter towards Paul by exposing his game
I actually think dr. will’s distancing from the entire house in early season 2 worked to his adv later in the game. No one took him out or considered him a target because he was so hated by housemates and jury members. But when it came down to votes a less assertive player lost when compared to will because he got so far doing so much sketchy shit. I definitely wouldn’t recommend this style because Paul and the general bitter jury thing but for will it basically shielded him bcs no one thought anyone would vote for such an asshole lmfao
Again, no one is recommending this play. I think things the stars aligned for will. he joined at the perfect point in the game’s history to accidentally make one of the most impressive plays. will was able to strike at an opportune time with a cast that really valued gameplay over likability But even if you dont like him, you got to give it to him. Even considering the hand he dealt himself, He’s one of the best.
@@shaefilmsinspace you would not be calling Adam a legend and he too was massively flawed. I'm standing by what I said. Will is overrated and he could've easily avoided playing as awfully as he did to begin with. He wasn't a threat and the jury hated Nicole more plus there was no veto so he kinda got lucky. His legend status deserves asterisks
You put it in the intro but Kaycee taking Tyler was so bad. It shouldve been like Cody taking Derrick but the jury was dumb. I think Kaycee wins 9-0 if she takes JC
Not really. He didn't know what to do at that point. I understand if he evicted Boogie and even masterminded it (though i'd argue this was not good for his game personally) and even winning HOH if he somehow unintentionally won it but for goodness sake he should've BACKDOORED Frank and even if he wins and can't be backdoored, betray your alliance and try to reshuffle the deck by positioning yourself well. He basically did everything wrong sending 2 Allies home (one he had complete control of not sending home and unnecessarily bloodied his hands about) pissing off 3 ppl and lowering his position in the alliance so he'd be in major jeopardy as Peridiam put it. I will never understand why ppl say Ian played a great game
@@thecamishere4344 I was joking lmao Also.. I can only speak for myself, but I feel like Ian made a lot of good moves, and a lot of reallyyyy bad moves 😂 I probably wouldn't say he played a "great game", but I rooted for him from day 1 until day 80 or whatever and it was super entertaining to watch. And I mean he obviously didn't do THAT bad.. but yeah he really should not have gotten rid of Ashley at that point.
Telling someone (bro or not) that your showmance has an out of game relationship with someone who is on the block and available to be evicted in order to get them to target someone you know they are close with is pretty damn bad in my opinion.
Yeah it was a good play by Jackson, but a bad one by Jack, given that he goes home immediately. Definitely not one of the worst moves ever by a winner, since Jackson had the entire house backing him other than like 4 people.
With a few of the dishonorable mentioned, I do agree with Josh’s situation, but I disagree with Kaycee and Steve With Kaycee, I do see the argument of Kaycee improving her chance or giving her a near guarantee by keeping Angela, but Kaycee staying loyal to her Final 2 deal with Tyler wasn’t that stupid. Remember, Kaycee, at least in BBUS20, was loyalty player who went from the weakest competitor (as she didn’t get above last place in the first 3 weeks) to the strongest. While keeping and taking Tyler to the end was a high-risk gamble, it paid off. With Steve, I disagree him throwing the Final Veto comp was his worst move; I saw it as more unnecessary (he may have still lost). Steve’s worst moves was his first HOH reign and subsequent “fake crying” afterwards. Any case against Steve winning and, in turn, Vanessa turning things around, stemmed from them. Also, Steve losing the Final veto that resulted in Vanessa winning was a blessing in disguise. With Johnny Mac, instead of Vanessa, still around, he may have made it to the end with Johnny Mac and lost pretty easily to Johnny Mac.
"America's Player really screwed things up this season" No kidding. Think Eric would win comfortably if he was actually allowed to play for himself. He got kneecapped so hard by the twist and finding out he had to play with this twist or not be allowed in at all adds salt to the wound.
While I agree on that in some regards in terms of Eric getting further, I don’t think he would win. Twist or not, Eric and Jessica would try to go from showmance to power couple at some point and that would backfire on both of them.
The worst move by a BB Winner was Derrick breaking the game and causing all future seasons to have incredibly boring and predictable gameplay. LOL.
@Natalie Maggie is a better winner than Derrick.
@@olivermensinger6022 why so much Derrick slander he made people believe he was a non threat (outside of Frankie and Donny) oh he helps pregame and people hate him? I hate the big brother community. Your favorites suck at the game and you guys bash the whole season. Fucking babies I swear.
? What do you mean
Also for causing Grodner to now have an obsession with cops
Fax
With Dr. Will, this disastrous gameplay was a blessing since he had to re-tool from how his game backfired early on. Had Chilltown been successful in Week 1 of BBUS2 he may have been voted later on due to an unchecked ego than winning.
I think BB2 might be been the last season had this not happened. It would have been so boring to me. Dr. Will became a comic villain. I know I started watching weekly because of him.
Ok kinda a fair point but still, it's an awful move HE made that caused him to be on the bottom. Your nostalgia is blinding you
I will say in defense of Ian, Frank was a RIDICULOUS threat that szn and everyone had recognized that well up to that point. It was gonna, and did, need NUMEROUS shots to take him out. It was fortunate how it played out for Ian, but that game you needed to take every shot possible at Frank until it finally worked, bc he beasted all the comps that szn
Where the issue lies is keeping Ashley over Joe (by pawning Jenn) could have worked a little more in Ian’s favor by flattering Frank (who wasn’t going just yet), until Dan sold him out post funeral.
That and the rigs in Frank’s favor (keeping him as HoH after Willy’s expulsion, and canceling the vote in the reset button)
I personally don’t really like big brother (much prefer survivor for the adventure and the bush conditions) but Dr Will is the gift the keeps on giving.
And clearly the worst BB move ever was made by production, when they didn’t sequester the jury on BB3 and thus robbed Danielle Reyes of her win. She played a flawless game that year.
You are forgetting they didn’t sequester the jury until that happening. They original setup was for the jury to go home and watch the game and live feeds. Had Danielle won, they may have continue that for quite some time, likely until 9 or, if prior, someone exploiting the looseness of how the jury was setup, like what happened with the Veto selection and even comp being into re-tooled to how it is currently.
Also, as Peridiam mentioned, the fatal flaw with Jason and Danielle was keeping Lisa over Amy at Final 4. Even if Amy win the Final HOH, she would have had an uphill battle, at best, against either one of them to win, even with their feelings of Danielle.
@@marklisowski6549 I think the downfall of Danielle's game started at final five. It wasn't necessary to do what she did to Marcellus, especially for the sake of keeping Lisa. Plus, the whole Marcellus affair helped turn the jury against Danielle.
And then, as you pointed out, was the foolish decision on the part of Danielle and Jason to evict Amy at final four. At that point, I threw my hands in the air and concluded that it was Lisa's destiny to win Big Brother 3, because Danielle and Jason had blown two clear shots at a strong threat to win the final HOH and the only threat to either of them winning whole game.
It still hurts knowing Daniel lost that game even though she played one of the greatest game we have seen.
I think one of the worst news ever by production was the BB hacker. Sending Rockstar home on her alliance members HoH
I just realized that Jen Johnson's shirt that reads "Jen's a Member" is a play on mensa member. She's really more clever than I realized. I've been analyzing her shirts for years and some of them have taken a really long time for me to understand. I still don't understand Janelle's shirt that reads, "Baby make it nice" either because it's that brilliant or that stupid.
She was a jensa member? I wonder if her gpa was dance
i think ian said on the bb22 live feeds that he wanted to throw the final 9 hoh to danielle by putting a really high number in the tiebreaker but danielle just put a higher number lol
I tend to favor moves like Adam's final six nominations, Kaycee taking out Angela, and Steve throwing the veto as being the worst simply because they happened so late in the game when there was less wiggle room and fewer variables to consider.
I think Kaycee's move to take out Angela actually was a good one, because by that point in the season, Angela and Tyler were super close, so with Angela around, Kaycee is no longer guaranteed to be Tyler's number one, therefore by taking Angela out, she secures her position in the F2
@@NYChica23 also, had Tyler been knocked at Final 4, Brett and himself may have been able to campaign effectively for Angela to win over Kaycee or JC. While the most of that jury hated Angela to no end, some to enough of them would have eaten shit and seen merits from Angela for her comps wins, overall high relevance from the start of the game, and her involvement with pulling most of the biggest moves that season. Luckily, with Kaycee ousting Angela, that prevented any potential of JC and Angela being the two finalists (No, thank you on that)
I would've said Drew's first HOH on 5 was a disaster but it actually got the house feeling sorry for him and pushed him into alliances since people fell for his naiveté. Same sorta thing happens to Dan in the first weeks of 10 since losing both his allies helped him way more than actually keeping them around.
Alternate pick from BBCAN is Kevin taking Ika off the block even though Karen hated him and accidentally evicting Dillon
This is probably number one overall imo.
Karen was going to vote Ika out and he wanted the vote to be a tie so he could send Demitries packing but when Karen refused to play ball and force Kevin’s hand
@@georgehand While Karen was going to vote out Ika, Dillon might not have. Using the veto was still stupid. Even Ika was voted out one round earlier, it would have gained Kevin even more jury favor by sending Ika to the jury house sooner. He turned a win-win situation into a backfire that forced him into a win or evict situation. Even Kevin knew, at the time, that should have sent him to jury.
@@georgehand Also, if Kevin wanted that to happened, he should have put Karen instead of Dillon, with how much of loose cannon Karen was and how loyal Dillon was to Karen as well as Dillon’s past rocky relationship with Demetres. Why Kevin letting Karen be, knowing how she was, was dumbfounding.
Even if Jackson’s move wasn’t good, it marked a turning point in the season and made BB21 much better.
He super lucked out he actualy benefited from it. One of the luckiest players ever, and one reason I don't rank him highly at all as a winner.
I love the "nominate James" closing on this video. Great vid Peridiam!
Adam's move really wasn't that bad when you really think about it. He was able to secure James' jury vote with it, and the other players viewed as a smaller threat to win after it. Plus, even if the worse case scenario of James winning veto happened, Natalie gets backdoored and he's still not in that bad of a position heading into Final 5, especially as James & Sharon would be targeting Ryan and possibly even Shiela over him.
Compared to other players rectifying bad game move, especially with comp wins/prowess, Adam’s bad move was just sloppy and, even if he still didn’t nominate James or James actually won that Veto, it could have been handled better.
I think it would be really cool if you did a video like “Survivor players and there Big Brother counterparts” off the top of my head maybe Jeremy and Derrick, Adam and Steve ? Cool idea i think
My top 5 is honestly completely different. Here's some moves I would view as worse than most of those:
Jordan taking out Lydia, a total non-threat, over Kevin or Natalie at Final 7.
Ian being Quack-Pack strong at FINAL 5 and refusing to consider taking out any of Dan/Shane/Danielle.
Steve throwing the Final 4 Veto.
Josh taking Paul to the end over Christmas and banking on a VERY bitter jury.
I do agree about Jackson's Day 44 antics being up there, though.
I don't think Josh taking Paul to the end was a bad move when you think about it, because he'd already exposed every single one of Paul's lies to the jury via the goodbye messages, and combined with the fact that he knew Cody completely hated Paul and could easily influence Mark/Elena's votes, then that move becomes a lot smarter than you think it is
To be fair, Lydia was asking to be voted out, however I 100% would evict Kevin or Natalie over her without a doubt
@@thecamishere4344 Also, unless Lydia somehow got to the end with Jordan, I don’t see beating too many other houseguests.
@@NYChica23 Josh’s decision to take and winding up winning over Paul can be described as jury management. While Josh didn’t have the best jury management ever, it was sure much better than Paul’s, who didn’t learn from taking the jury aspects of the game seriously from their prior lost. If anything, Paul was worse on their second time playing.
@@marklisowski6549 Paul definitely was worse the second time around, because the first time, their only major mistake was not realizing that Nicole already had 4/9 jury votes that were locked for her and taking James to the F2 instead, but in 19, they had no winning scenario because of how bad their jury management was
That thumbnail knocked me back a couple years in time
I just cant believe Jackson Michie actually exists 💀
The worst move by a winner in big brother history was Jackson Michie for applying for the show.
Robyn Kass former casting director for Big Brother got fired for casting Jackson Michie after finding out that he was coming off of meth during the show.
@@miggans21012 i laughed so hard
@@catherineoleary3133 My opinion I think since Robyn Kass has gone the cast for the last two seasons has improved.
@@miggans21012 wow and he still won
@@machodad3143 He sure did.
Kinda ironic that the extra veto the week of Dan’s funeral was basically put there by the production to save Dan but that’s probably the thing that lost him the game in the end…like the funeral still works w/o it Ian goes Britney probably has sum reluctance to Dan but I can’t see her being able to flip the script on him and Frank and Jen likely stays longer if Ian isn’t in those comps too
Thank you for posting the video.
But, when Sheryl got evicted, Will wasn't happy, but Sheryl was diagnosed with breast cancer immediately after her eviction. So, you could say Will saved her life.
Nicole saved her life. She was the one to flip the house around.
Whenever I see Big Brother's editted version of Jackson's day 44 blowup with the Six Shooters, it feels like they editted it to feel like a core meltdown.
I remember when the Six Shooters fell apart and I loved it because I HATED almost everybody in that alliance except for Tommy.
Now if only I had a satisfying ending that didn’t get buried again on Week 2 of the very next season
Who’s here after ameerahs blindside???🎉🎉🎉🎉
That made me so happy
As a big brother super fan I think we need to break it down to Top 5 worst moves by a evil player and Top 5 worst moves by a non-evil player. Because if we did this than you can put Will in the top 5 maybe even the top spot on the evil side list and include Dan, Jun, Jackson, Adam, Rachel (floaters grab a life vest). On the non-evil player side is just as hard to have a Top 5 because no winner played a perfect game - Derick, Andy, Ian, Jordan, Nicole, Kaycee and you can even throw in Xaiver here as well.
Derick didn’t play a perfect game?
Ethanimale and Peridiam in the same day WOOOOO
Lowkey Dan’s Veto Roulette was a dumb move. All of his allies were pissed at him, the other alliance hated his guts, and could have cost him jury votes if the jury was not equally angry with Memphis. I think Dan is one of the BB GOATS, but one of my hottest takes is that I think he loses against Memphis if Memphis acted like BB16 Cody
I promise you it wasn’t.
At first, when people make moves without telling other people or running it by them. They will get upset. They’ll be mad but then later on, their anger subsides and the players have a week for that anger to subside. Which is a lot of time. In Dan’s case. His play was actually really beneficial for him. He knew Ollie would flip out and nobody would believe him. They would think that Ollie is just mad that Dan put him up. Even if they do believe him. It doesn’t matter. He’s brought so much attention to himself that Dan’s antics will gloss over. Memphis was the only one who was really affected negatively by this (besides Ollie and Michelle of course lol) Memphis now has in the back of his mind that Dan could turn on him just as he broke his promise to Ollie
To be fair to Will in BB2, if Justin was not kicked out he and Krista would have likely voted Nicole out. This would have completely changed the game, allowing Chilltown to possibly walk all the way to the endgame
I think a fun complementary video to this could be 5 best moves by a runner up
That would have to include Tyler Crispen
Can you do a video of housemates who hated each other during the game then actually ended up being good friends or liking each other?
Ragan and Rachel need to be at the top of that list
Ragan and Rachel definitely have to be on there, because they fought constantly in the BB house, but after the game, Ragan ended up being one of the groomsmen in Brendon & Rachel's wedding
@@NYChica23 there is also Britney and Rachel. See Janelle’s and Britney’s elimination, especially in full, for that one with how close Rachel and Britney are now. Nicole and Victor is a good one; Victor sold that well during his Amazing Race intro. Paulie and Da’Vonne went from clashing in the Big Brother jury house to using the redemption house on the Challenge to keeping each other alive for half of the re-try rounds that season, resulting in Paulie and Natalie making it to the end that season.
Also, a video suggestion would be the flip side of that, with people that were close to each other in Big Brother have issues with each other post season. Examples include the break-ups of James and Natalie as well as Mark and Elena, Chilltown’s fallout, Kathryn’s falling out with Jackson and even Holly, Kaycee foolishly backstabbing Bayleigh on the Challenge, which destroyed the friendship they had prior, Nicole’s bitterness at Cody blindsiding her, resulting in her cutting off ties from Cody, Derrick, to even Julie herself.
Yes, exactly Mark. I forgot to mention the opposite as well
I didn't watch BB1. I worked at night and had Thursday and Friday off. I liked Boogie because he wore a UF shirt on the first episode. He got voted out early. But I still watched on Thursday night. I thought I'll watch until Dr. Will is evicted. Towards the end of the season, I started taping the other two episodes.
My worst moves would be
BB5 - Drew Nominating his own showmance
BB14 - Ian taking out his own team.
BB17 - Steve Evicting Jackie during the double
BBCAN3 - Sarah Evicting her own ally, Willow.
BBCAN4 - The brothers threatening to renominate themselves
BBCAN5 -Kevin Renominating Jackie and Dillon on both his HOH's when he could've taken out a bigger threat.
Honestly, Drew nominating Holly actually wasn’t that bad.
Chilltown getting obliterated in week 1 and 2 is a good thing for will. Will wouldn't have been able to be the snake with chilltown there.
Kevin evicting Jacey-Lynne over Josh was a bad move even if it did work out in the end
I agree that almost costed Kevin the game
Worse move was that final 2 speech by Dr Will in BB2
BBCAN5 Kevin using the F5 veto on Ika and naming Dillion the replacement nom.
One other minor thing to mention about Eric survive Dick's backdoor attempt. It seems that based on live feed leaks such as this one: ua-cam.com/video/ic56tDkc3L0/v-deo.html , the producers may or may not have actually helped Eric stay over Kail that week via DR sessions. Not sure if it their influence was necessary or not, but there's another question mark about the America's Player twist that season. lol
They need to start supplying the cast with alcohol again!!
I think a sizable portion of this fandom underestimates the degree to which Jackson's social game was reliant on Holly, lol. Physically/comps wise her carried her... but socially/strategically she carried him 😆
Relied more on her being good at comps too. Two comp beasts together is very dangerous
Everyone raise your hand if you wanted Jackson Michie to win...
yeah I didn't think so
my hand is raised. manz str8 murder the comps and carried his girl.
@@johnnywalker984 all while being the most BORING houseguest to ever play, his comp wins are overshadowed by all the bullshit he would lash out on others was like
me!
Adam: "is Ryan mad at me??"
Sheila: "yeah. Of course! What, do you want him to like.. throw you a party?!"
Lmao I always forget how funny Sheila could be sometimes
Nice vid man
The season with Jack and Jackson was the first one I stopped watching. (The second all stars was the second.) So I can’t rank that season. I’d say Dick was worst because without America’s player, I don’t know how he wins that season.
5. Dick 4. Ian 3. Will 2. Jackson 1. Adam
5 is the worst, 1 is the “best”
This just reminds me that Season 21 was in fact the worst cast of misery so far.
Sheryl for BB All-Stars 3
Can you make a video on the failed back doors of BB history?
I wonder if Nicole is gonna be on this list.
Because she is an underrated winner despite all the hate she gets (she’s overhated in my opinion) she has a solid game but with a lot of flaws.
Edit: Okay but Day 44 is the most iconic day in Modern BB History. This was the day BB21 actually got good… for about like 3 or 4 weeks
@Natalie Right?! She gets hate for way too many things when she’s only done like a handful of stuff. It doesn’t excuse her of being held accountable for what she says tho.
Also, Rachel deserves to be on this list. Her win was so transparently rigged, it’s not even funny.
the unintentional bi backdrop in the thumbnail we love to see it
Maaan i blame Jack not Michie for the Day 44 BB21… he chose christie n tommy over holly, kat n michie 😂😂😂 what sense ?!?! and Adam bottom 10 winner
"I kind of feel like Adam is where he should be" You mean prison?
Not anymore. The dude has turned his life around for the better.
There’s also Jordan, and Jeff, turning on Michelle and Russell in bb11. Sure, Jeff acted on that, but Jordan encouraged him to it because of a thing she had against Russell, and she made it worse in her shouting match with him. That’s why she lost his jury vote, and she’d also lose Michelle’s jury vote had she been up against anyone other than Natalie.
That was actually 50/50 on that. If Jeff didn’t target Russell, Russell, unless Jeff and Jordan get Natalie out on Jeff’s HOH out or talk Michelle into using the next veto, would target and take out Jeff next. Even if her “fabrication” didn’t work, Natalie would still plant a bug but with Russell instead of Jeff.
@@marklisowski6549 I doubt it. Russell may be short tempered, but he isn’t as clueless as Jeff and Jordan. Also, it was Kevin who made that fabrication, not Natalie. She’s as good of a liar as Ronnie, which is NOT good.
I feel like Jordan from bb11. She’s one of my favorite players but her move with Russel was pretty dumb. Since Jeff ended up going home but honestly, I feel like Jeff is doomed either way because Russell really was going to backdoor him.
In a scene after the double eviction, it was revealed that Ian wanted to backdoor Frank in that vote, but the Quack Pack talked him out of it.
Also, it was a very bad move on Dan’s part to evict Shane over Ian.
No it wasn’t
Yes, it was. Ian was by far a bigger threat, so blindsiding Shane on that moment was a bad move both socially and strategically.
@@Ori_Kohav absolutely not. Ian took Dan to the end. Shane was never going to
@@Ori_Kohav Dan wasn’t winning in that final four no matter what. Giving Shane the boot was the better move.
@@olivermensinger6022 maybe for making the end, but not for winning. He definitely had a much better shot against Danielle, and he was much better off facing Shane in the final competition than against Ian. There’s a difference between a big move and a good move. Dan was too short-sighted, and it cost him the game. That was also notable in his “funeral”, specifically in lashing out at Danielle, which was pointless and only made him look bad.
Boogie is an irritable player.
Drew's HOH in Week 3 was pretty bad. Had the Twins not gotten HOH-Itis, him taking out Holly would have blown up in his face, he would have gotten 7th place unless him and Diane were able to win out.
wills gameplay was messy but it got him to win in season 2 and in the top 4 in season 7
Though he did make a fatal mistake in top 4. His arrogance caught up to him
Adam IS underrated.
Pacs bro trying to put themselves up in bbcan 4
IAN IS STILL MY FAV WINNER GOODNIGHT
Shocked nothing Josh did is on here, but ultimately him being loud and in peoples faces with pots and pans helped him because no one took him seriously and he was dragged to end cuz Paul thought he could beat him 😂
I'm not when putting thought into it. That golden apple he took while it did piss ppl off, it was his saving grace. Cody 100% has him on the block and likely tries to evict him and maybe even has Josh go home unless Paul says otherwise like he did a few weeks later. Doing Paul's dirty work (normally wouldn't pay off but in this case does cuz Paul tries way too hard to wipe his hands clean when plotting hg's demises) and even evicting his closest ally who even had a broken foot and taking a veteran like Paul to the final 2 he did but as he put it best "call me crazy" well.... he almost was, except he knew Paul had terrible jury management and was correct on assuming the jury would be bitter towards Paul by exposing his game
I actually think dr. will’s distancing from the entire house in early season 2 worked to his adv later in the game. No one took him out or considered him a target because he was so hated by housemates and jury members. But when it came down to votes a less assertive player lost when compared to will because he got so far doing so much sketchy shit. I definitely wouldn’t recommend this style because Paul and the general bitter jury thing but for will it basically shielded him bcs no one thought anyone would vote for such an asshole lmfao
Don't even with this overrated defending of Will. He DID make an awful move, it was his fault as to why he had to play from the bottom and that's that
@@thecamishere4344 and somehow he did it and won then got to top 3 in all stars with the same strategy? Cmon the man is legend
Again, no one is recommending this play. I think things the stars aligned for will. he joined at the perfect point in the game’s history to accidentally make one of the most impressive plays. will was able to strike at an opportune time with a cast that really valued gameplay over likability
But even if you dont like him, you got to give it to him. Even considering the hand he dealt himself, He’s one of the best.
Wills a good player but don't act like the beginning of the game was good
@@shaefilmsinspace you would not be calling Adam a legend and he too was massively flawed. I'm standing by what I said. Will is overrated and he could've easily avoided playing as awfully as he did to begin with. He wasn't a threat and the jury hated Nicole more plus there was no veto so he kinda got lucky. His legend status deserves asterisks
You put it in the intro but Kaycee taking Tyler was so bad. It shouldve been like Cody taking Derrick but the jury was dumb. I think Kaycee wins 9-0 if she takes JC
Also, another plus when keeping Nick, he was/is hot AF. LOL.
Dr. Will's final jury speech is pretty bad and I would say a worse move than the one in this video.
I wonder though if Ian went along with getting rid of Ashley bc she was a major distraction for him lol
Not really. He didn't know what to do at that point. I understand if he evicted Boogie and even masterminded it (though i'd argue this was not good for his game personally) and even winning HOH if he somehow unintentionally won it but for goodness sake he should've BACKDOORED Frank and even if he wins and can't be backdoored, betray your alliance and try to reshuffle the deck by positioning yourself well. He basically did everything wrong sending 2 Allies home (one he had complete control of not sending home and unnecessarily bloodied his hands about) pissing off 3 ppl and lowering his position in the alliance so he'd be in major jeopardy as Peridiam put it. I will never understand why ppl say Ian played a great game
@@thecamishere4344 I was joking lmao
Also.. I can only speak for myself, but I feel like Ian made a lot of good moves, and a lot of reallyyyy bad moves 😂 I probably wouldn't say he played a "great game", but I rooted for him from day 1 until day 80 or whatever and it was super entertaining to watch. And I mean he obviously didn't do THAT bad.. but yeah he really should not have gotten rid of Ashley at that point.
Still can't stand Michie
Michies move wasn’t ALL that bad in my opinion. he trusted his bestfriend/bro in the house and just got burned. that’s not entirely his fault.
Telling someone (bro or not) that your showmance has an out of game relationship with someone who is on the block and available to be evicted in order to get them to target someone you know they are close with is pretty damn bad in my opinion.
Yeah it was a good play by Jackson, but a bad one by Jack, given that he goes home immediately. Definitely not one of the worst moves ever by a winner, since Jackson had the entire house backing him other than like 4 people.
Is there a worst moves period video??? Maybe a series because we know the obvious ones like Marcellas. Howie was INFURIATING!!!!!
With a few of the dishonorable mentioned, I do agree with Josh’s situation, but I disagree with Kaycee and Steve
With Kaycee, I do see the argument of Kaycee improving her chance or giving her a near guarantee by keeping Angela, but Kaycee staying loyal to her Final 2 deal with Tyler wasn’t that stupid. Remember, Kaycee, at least in BBUS20, was loyalty player who went from the weakest competitor (as she didn’t get above last place in the first 3 weeks) to the strongest. While keeping and taking Tyler to the end was a high-risk gamble, it paid off.
With Steve, I disagree him throwing the Final Veto comp was his worst move; I saw it as more unnecessary (he may have still lost).
Steve’s worst moves was his first HOH reign and subsequent “fake crying” afterwards. Any case against Steve winning and, in turn, Vanessa turning things around, stemmed from them. Also, Steve losing the Final veto that resulted in Vanessa winning was a blessing in disguise. With Johnny Mac, instead of Vanessa, still around, he may have made it to the end with Johnny Mac and lost pretty easily to Johnny Mac.
Let’s go
"America's Player really screwed things up this season"
No kidding. Think Eric would win comfortably if he was actually allowed to play for himself. He got kneecapped so hard by the twist and finding out he had to play with this twist or not be allowed in at all adds salt to the wound.
While I agree on that in some regards in terms of Eric getting further, I don’t think he would win. Twist or not, Eric and Jessica would try to go from showmance to power couple at some point and that would backfire on both of them.
No such thing as the winner having a “bad” move bc everything has to go the way it goes for them to win. Butterfly effect
Oh yes there is hence the list
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ADAM IN BB 9 didn’t win, he was runner up
What? Yes, he won.
@@olivermensinger6022 Ryan won
@@andrecanton7591 no he didn’t. Ryan had a sh***y jury Q&A.
Let’s go