5 Times Big Brother Players Broke the Game
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- From family member secret codes to arts and crafts with secret powers, here are 5 times Big Brother players broke the game - and then had the producers rewrite the rules for future seasons.
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Only 6 houseguests will participate in the veto competition: the HoH, the 2 nominees, Tyler, and 2 houseguests selected by random draw
hahahah honestly
LMAO so true 🤣
Lmao
Like if it wasn’t tyler then it would be annoying, like imagine if it was paul, america would die
😂😂
I’m so happy that you put Kevin from BBCAN5 on this list. Him studying the competition history is just crazy.
Did he win?
@@derpycats8072 he won the season
@hockeysong, Thank you
Love the RHAP content too.
Derpy Cats I believe he won 7-0 and had a perfect win!
Sometimes I think I’d be a good big brother player, and then I remember how much Kevin studied. Then I remember how much I hate studying.
Marvin will go down as one of the most underrated player in bb. He came up with the plan but Nakomis got a lot of credit since she executed it.
16 years later and he is still one of my all-time top 3 BB US players.
Evz he came back in BB7, he declined his invitation, same with Holly King, Holly was supposed to be a candidate for BB7 but since Jase was there she declined, but she 100% would’ve been voted on, back then everyone fucking loved her
Marvin is the first to say it on feeds. But many house guests from that season admit they heard Mike say it first the week before feeds started.
@@matthutt7697 suuuuuuure
This is very similar to the time cao boi created the vote split in survivor to flush the idol, PLAN VOODOO!!!!
Fessy breaking the sink lives in my head rent-free
Haleys rea turn was weird. She literally just stood there.
Just like 👁 👄 👁
8:57 Dan's strategy would not necessarily have entailed telling people he has a power that he actually doesn't, he would simply flash an object. The other houseguests would be free to think of that what they will.
I hate that Marvin gets so little credit for the backdoor. Dude should've been a returnee. He was not only smart but hilarious.
Yeah the credit was only given to Nakomis
Yes Marvin was so funny haha I’d love to have seen him again
The Don deserves some credit too. He pitched that idea, however, he was a weak 1 target who had no allies, thus it went on deaf to the ears.
Yes I loved him! I would like t ou see him on BB again.
This comment made me think about BB5 again and realized that dang was that season's cast good
O my god Kevin, no one will ever put so much effort into the game like he did in BBCAN 5
Hi Lyoko
@@carjis ola ;p
Kevin would have gone home if he hadn’t made out with the person who randomly found the secret veto though.
Its the Air Bud Defense. If there's no implicit rules against it, its not illegal
Nice to see Marvin get the credit for the Six Finger plan. Him (and even Karen) were both talking about it way before Nakomis executed it.
It looks like Rachel's message says "I love you Matt"
“kind of like pregaming in an all-stars season. huh.” CLOCKED-
*cough cough* Derrick* cough*
When is Peridiam playing BB and obliterating the game
hes still studying
After he wins Survivor
damn, this is so excellent. using this video to STUDY LIKE KEV for when I’M on that show BBY
This is a mixed bag of literal cheating, Production making judgement calls and brilliant strategy by players:
-Evel Dick's secret messages were absolutely cheating. The spirit of the game is ruined when you're receiving information from outside the Big Brother bubble intentionally. Wall yellers aside, when you're CHOOSING to get info from outside the house, you're a scumbag. As much as I was entertained by him, Evel Dick should have been sent home after Production learned about the secret messages.
-Marvin's invention of the backdoor is a great example of Production making a flawed system. They should have had the three other players for Veto be random from the start, and Marvin took advantage of their mistake. He used the rules to his advantage, definitely not cheating.
-Dan's fake secret power depends on whether the rules said it was okay to fake powers at the time. Good idea, though, always great to see play out on Survivor.
-Rachel's pretzel message was really up to Production to allow or not. It's not outsider information like Evel Dick's hidden messages, it's someone still stuck in the Big Brother bubble sending a message. Totally fair game in my opinion.
-Kevin prepping for the comps is totally fair game as well. He just followed patterns from previous seasons and studied whatever he expected to come up. Brilliant work, definitely something any self-respecting superfan should do if chosen for a season's cast.
Yeah I'd say Dick cheated but the others didn't cheat
@@SlippingHusband agreed, only Dick actually cheated. Everyone else just stretched the rules or made great unprecedented moves.
totally agree!
Phil Sutfin but i mean he made them change the rules so he “broke” the game
@@fezzik3941 That was already against the rules. What he did was make them change a process so no one else could cheat in the same way.
I think what Dick did was definitely cheating, though I don't have a problem with the other hacks.
It was cheating, but you have to admit it was pretty smart.
I guess it was a bit of a dick move
@@webba0342 *claps*
You don’t have a problem with what Rachel did? Granted production shouldn’t have been so naïve as to allow a juror back into the house, but that’s a person that shouldn’t have had any contact with the houseguests, and her message was clearly easier to decode than Dick’s messages from his brother.
@@illusionary2047 Not really.Cause dicks son literally watched the show and knew everything there is to know thats definetly cheating.Rachel was just another competitor and didn't know everything.
That second “because of the pretzels” was hilarious.
I loved Nakomis, but nice to see Marvin get some love for the six finger plan.. it's what MAARRRVIN wanted.
Did you personally make a note to say I’m sorry like we do? 😂😂
Had to do it!
New power: just literally call it the Platinum Veto, it's not an actual veto but its power is you're *officially* allowed to lie that it's a secret veto power.
Derrick kinda broke the game as well, and most seasons since his have used the exact same boring strategy
Will: The creator
Dan: The preserver
Derrick: The destroyer
Samira make an alliance filled with comp beasts and steam roll your way to the end
I heard they make BB16 a required season to watch in sequester.
I think bb15 broke the game. I notice that the casting for the show changed dramatically after bb15. The show does not cast as many big personalities anymore. Old school bb everybody was ready to go off at the drop of a hat but now everyone just wants to go with the flow, vote with the house.
Production is so scared of another bb15 happening that they stop casting a lot of people with personality.
Latte Dee yeah BB15 broke the game for having good drama because everyone is too scared now for social media’s backlash. The thing is though I feel bb16 ruined the game more because honestly I’ll take a tamer house personality wise if there is some fun gameplay, but the problem is right now we don’t have either lol.
I was almost expecting you to mention Tim’s HOH in BBCan where he had the other houseguests vote for who they want to nominate
That was so good as it forces "every" houseguest to show their cards to Tim. He gets no blood as he did what the house wanted and anyone who didnt want to participate in it (Dallas being the only one) would result in the 2 gummy koalas being used on himself.
The moment where I was literally procrastinating studying for two tests and the sign off hit me lol
Kevin Robert Martin. Truly one of the best to ever play the game. Screwed his first year by the first Triple Eviction. Came back, almost screwed by the triple again, but fought through and won it all.
Cody's all stars season was like Kevin's except Cody's social game was on point. I respect player's who prepare and know what to look for. That's so much work. Both got 9-0 wins too. Mad respect.
As a Canadian who watches both BB Can & America, I would LOVE to see a BB Allstar style season, with the top Canadian & American players. Merge the 2 shows, I feel like that would be super interesting, not sure how the logistics would work though
As an American who watches both, I completely agree. Especially since I just watched Audrey's BBCAN vs BBUS Sequester Mini
As an American I agree. At least one season of combined bb. Or have the people swap, where halfway through half canida house swaps with half of the American house.
The backdoor is now a staple in every BB season. What's great about the Veto competitions now being done by random draw, it's up to chance that the right person will be chosen to play and the backdoor can happen.
It adds steaks
Peridiam, can you make a video about changes you would do to enhance the game? Like casting choices, twists or absence of it like a back to basics, number of days, final HOH and so on cause I feel like since BB16 the show has gone downhill especially that season, 19 and now 22 with big alliances that took over the format and ruin all the excitement. Thanks :)
Make the vote count invisible. Instead of Julie saying ,for example, “by a vote of 9-1, Susie u have been evicted from the big brother house” she just says “ Susie u have been evicted from the big brother house” this gives the hgs an extra layer of comfort to vote where they want as they don’t have to worry about votes being pinned and might reduce the boring “i hAvE tO voTe wiTh tHe hOuSe” mentality. That’s mine. CBS I’d like 10% creative royalties thank u very much 🤗
@@MsVitaD Yes! That's a great idea, this "vote with the house" mentality is so boring and trash, cause the "house" is always a manipulative person or a big alliance tha makes the decision and persuade the outsiders to vote with it. I also have an idea, the person evicted can choose 2 people to NOT play the HOH. So that can create more dynamic game and people focusing on their social game instead of sleeping all day.
Bernardo Ribeiro yes, I’d love for the victim to get their last hurrah in one way shape or form, like for example, Ika getting to shred the letters in bbcan 2 and Alison Irwin answering the questions in the 2nd hoh comp in BB7 and getting to throw her shade at Janelle and others and make it harder (but not impossible) for the ones that she didn’t want to see win. I like ur idea a lot.
@@MsVitaD Production is really wasting their time not hiring us for some entertaining ideas to enhance the show, am I right? haha
I HATE the big alliances. The show is not fun at all. Everyone isn’t being sneaky because they are just on one team. I always thought guys against girls was ridiculous but I’d rather go back to that. I also miss when they would say a name but say you’re safe blah blah is evicted. I wish they didn’t show us who voted till after and just show some here and there like survivor. A element of surprise I guess.
maybe i'm not the only one, but i'd really like to see peridiam talking abt how different big brother can be in different countries -- and how that affects the winning strategy
i just learned (through this video) that bb us and bbb (brasil) might be very different, since in ours (brasil) there is no jury, all the deciding elimination votes and then the winner are made by the audience at home -- which i really think might make for a different competition, for better or for worse :)
just found out that apparently in bbuk the players are not allowed to discuss their votes with other people?? which to me is SO WEIRD!
@@artehke2641 Australia is an entirely different game
You didn’t need to call me out on my procrastination like that. I felt so attacked :) I love your videos
“let’s break the game, shall we”
*_fessy proceeds to break the fricking sink_*
The only one I interpret at cheating is Dick's. He was getting information on the current game from outside the house. Coming up with a foolproof strategy to get your target out is creative thinking and gamesmanship. Using the resources available to you to send a message to an ally is creative thinking and gamesmanship (big brother should be ashamed they allowed Rachel that opportunity). Being prepared for a redundant format is simply smart gamesmanship (and also big brother's fault for being so predictable).
The motto is literally “predict the unpredictable” and they failed on their part
We need a runner up vs winners season of bb us
It’s 100% gamesmanship. If it’s not against the rules it isn’t cheating.
Making up a fake power is against the rules
Derpy Cats he didn’t use it so
And if it is against the rules and production let’s it happen, I’d have to blame the producers not the player
@@derpycats8072 it's a rule now. They probably made it because of that, like it says in the video.
The first guy cheated. The rest 100% good
I'm impressed Fessy and Haleigh's relationship lasted for two years before they broke up.
Rachel did that? That...is SO SMART!
All the other ones I can forgive. They are just cleverly exploiting the oversights production made when they set this stuff up. Even Rachel was still in the BB bubble so the pretzel message is cool with me.
Dick however straight up cheated. He should've been kicked for that, getting info from a person outside the house is straight up unfair.
The rules are immediate expulsion
I've been subscribed to Dan Gheesling for years and never realised he was on BB, let alone classed as one of the greatest contestants...the fuck is wrong with me
I literally have a college math test tomorrow and I laid in bed to watch this video and avoid studying
Be more like Kevin and study lol
He saying in the end "go to study for your exam" just got in the perfect moment since I have an exam tomorrow 😂😂😂😂
I will forever be salty that the last HoH challenge in BB5 was... AGAIN questions about the game. If it had been about the jurors then Kevin has no way to study for it.
to reply to the last statement/question you asked about "is it cheating".... well.... no... The entire game of big brother is exactly that... to outsmart other players for $500,000...... I love it!
Dan’s fake veto killed😂💀💀💀😂 this guy’s mind is incredible 😂😂😂💀💀
If you didn’t break a rule. You didn’t break a rule. 🤷♀️ I love this kind of thing. It shows the producers weren’t prepared.
I expected Evel Dick to be on the list but not for those reasons. I actually never knew about that code lol.
Kevin Martin is the best BB player of all time, great video!!
Kevin’s strategy is neither cheating, gaffing or gaming. It’s called preparation. It’s what a smart person does before any test. It tends to pay-off...
Derrick broke the game. A secret 2 man alliance from day one that none knew about till the last day, no one knew he was a cop till the last day, and manipulated his way to NEVER being put on the block. Dude is an absolute legend and shows just how powerful a social game can be.
lying about professions wasn’t a first tho, james did it way back in s6
@@limabby8105 to that degree though
never watched BBCAN but i can respect that guy that studied the game.
Similar to Kevin, I remember watching the Edge of Extinction Ponderosa videos, and David did something similar. He had a book of all puzzles they ever used, and even had small versions of some of the puzzles to practice
Kevin Robert Martin is an inspiration for me and if I ever play the game and reach the end game, I want to do what he did.
I love that you got to do a podcast with Mike Bloom! They're always so fun!!! You should try to become a member of the rhap team!
Kevin from BBCAN5 is THE example from now on of breaking the game, elite
Do “ The Most Powerful Winners of Big Brother “.
Define "powerful" that can mean a lot of things in big brother...
If production doesn't kick you off for it, it isn't cheating lol. Anyone who has played sports has experienced this: cheating is subjective to those who are enforcing the rules, if the ref doesn't flag it, it isn't a cheat. If production doesn't send you home, it isn't a cheat. Therefore, none of these players cheated.
Lol when Fessy broke that sink it was so good. Too good at the time
Acting like Kevin is some goat for being a BB Superfan as if Ika didn’t absolutely deserve everything that seasons is wronggggg
I wonder if Dan watched Survivor Gabon when he thought of making the fake power of Veto. It would make sense since both BB10 and Survivor Gabon aired in the same year.
If BB22 is disappointing you, I can’t tell you how amazing BBCAN All Stars is gonna be. BBCAN casting is wayyy better. All the houseguests are there to play. Cant wait to see BBCAN legends like Kevin and Gary
Honestly with BBCAN even their pre jury are iconic. Like their houseguests are all memorable in their own way.
It’s probably because I’ve never watched big brother, but I am completely lost as to what was happening with the “six finger plan”
I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.
I’m so glad u started the video with fessy
Haven't watched BB since that tv strike/forced romance season and never thought I would ever watch again, but I am now finally willing to give the Canadian version a shot. And I am Canadian. I just never trusted we could make decent reality TV or provide that production value.
As an American I enjoyed the Canadian version better
You should make a video of players who could’ve done well but got taken out due to circumstance
BB Canada strikes again!!
I love it when BBCAN is featured here because my god you do not know how good BBCAN is!!
At their worst they are better than half of BBUS seasons. And their absolute best? Well you must see yourself because no one can truly explain how legit BBCAN is.
BBCAN >>>>> old school BBUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new school BBUS
BBCAN is way better than BBUS
which season should i watch??
@@Belleswin I'd say start at the beginning and watch all of them. There are only 7 (technically there are 8, but season 8 got cancelled mid-production due to COVID-19)
The first 5 seasons are great..but season 6 & 7 are not..not much game play..i mean season 6 a showmance couple in the final 3 and no one targeted them ( that Will guy from newfoundland land made me crazy when he threw the only veto comp that he could win because he is tall at final five & save his alliance and forced Kayla to put up her showmance and would have been evicted in 2-0 votes)..i still frustrated till now ..he was one of the most passive players i have ever seen on BB.... season 7 not much to say ..the pretty boys dominated the game from day 1 to the end and nobody took a shot at them..also just like Will from season 6 ..that non-binary player ( forgot their name ) was terrible and very passive .
What's irritating is that production is capable of preventing things from happening or at least stopping it from continuing. If they knew there was all this pre-gaming going on, why not add in more random twists? This latest All Stars season is actually so embarrassing.
Whaaa...I didn't know/remember about ED's letter strategy! I feel like a bad bb fan for not knowing this lmaooo
I’m glad you broke this down. Marvin came up with the backdoor not Nakomis. She just executed it
How did Peridiam come for me so hard in the end
Idk if you’re going to read this, but fun fact: the idea of a fake veto, or rather a fake idol in the french version of Survivor named Koh-Lanta was actually made!
The person doing it shaped some wood and jungle liana along with some coconut husk to fake an immunity totem usually hidden near a survivor’s camp!
You should do a part 2 of bb players who were robbed because there’s quite a lot
"I think it is broken though." Kevin Robert Martin is a god.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention BB16’s big alliance strategy, which was similar to the 6-finger strategy
before i clicked on this video, i was like "Kevin better be on here" XD
I love these choices for breaking the game! These strategies remind me so much of Dani from Survivor Guatemala who is famous for recognizing Production as a player in the game itself. So, not only have players like Dan, Marvin, and Kevin gamed their way through 15 other house guests, they worked the "house" itself to progress themselves further in the game. Personally, I don't think Dick fits in at the same level because his "break" was just receiving outside information but his game stood on its own anyway.
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Loved the video!!! As always 🙌
As always, great video.
........ how does he know im procrastinating 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
omg I didn't know Kevin Martin was on big brother I have been watching his poker videos forever he's a beast at analyzing in anything he does
Just wanna say I love your content so much!!! Currently super into this BBCAN season 🙏🙌
3:39 If production really wanted to prevent that from happening again, they should have altered the rules of the veto, that that everyone competes in it.
My UA-cam just told me I had been watching it too long... I’m ashamed but this is good
Fair play! If it was against the rules the players would of been booted off.
Damn- That last comment about not procrastinating really exposed me lmao
With Evel, that was a smart tactic. He said the letter wasn't useful to him because by the time he became HoH a second time, he was in the final four with Danielle (his daughter) against both Jameka and Zack.
It was the final 5 actually and he got Eric evicted during it all because Zack was a dumbass and chose not to use the veto even though if he used it on Eric, they both could've got Danielle out.
@@PipeGuy64Bit Even at final five, you know who your enemies are. And Eric at that point was the strongest of the three. If it was just you and 7 other players (8 people left in the game) or 9 other players (10 people total left in the game) and you received that letter, that would be different. You have a month to a month and a half of gameplay to where your relative or friend can guide you with good accuracy on who to trust and not trust.
@@DarkReapersGrim Sure Eric is a threat for the mental comps but it would've been smarter to split up any obvious pair when you have a chance but Zack realized that too late during the final 4.
@@PipeGuy64Bit It was a double eviction, so it probably happened so fast Zach that probably didn't think about it. If it was a normal eviction and Zach had a few days to think about it, Eric probably could have convinced him to use the veto.
Never underestimate the power of Pretzels
In BBCAN season 7 Dane did a secret calender with objects to memorize the game. This is similar to what Kevin did.
That Kevin Robert Martin!
God now I want to go rewatch BBCAN 5. Kevin was my favorite player going into the season and to see him go from bottom of the house to absolute mad lad beast mode and then win was fucking amazing. Every week I was holding my breath like "is this the week he goes? surely he can't do it again?". ESPECIALLY the triple eviction omfg. That was so hard to watch, knowing that's how he went out in season 3. I was jumping out of my chair when he won veto then LMAO
Is studying really breaking the game? Everyone studies up on the days and events of the game and most people are really solid on them at the end of the season. Kevin was maybe just more intense and quite frankly better, largely because he's a lot smarter and more dedicated than your usual Big Brother casting choice. I don't think that's any more "broken" than taking the top student in a class and saying they "broke" school because of an intense study regiment.
It's breaking the game in the sense that he completely disregarded all other aspects of BB except winning comps. No strategy, no social game, just sit and study basically 24/7 so he could destroy all the mental comps. BB is not supposed to be a strictly comp based game. It's not against the rules per se but it's definitely not the type of gameplay that BB wants. If everyone applied themselves as hard as Kevin did, there would be even more emphasis on strictly comps rather than strategy and drama that BB is expected to have.
@@tylercasea He did have strategy but his entire alliance got evicted, so he knew it was a win or go home scenario at the endgame.
Jonathan Simons yeah Kevin is sorely overrated
kevin was such a pleasure to watch, one of the greatest winners in bb history
i don't understand anything, but i love seeing your videos!!!
Great video! 💖
I live for your videos!!
Can you do if f3s were f2s for survivor plz
Can you make a video about BB terminology, like backdoor, POV and stuff? That would be really cool!
Applaud it! I love it so much! Thinking out of out the box! Lol
Nicole f did say she has been practicing the comps and studying with Victor so I'm thinking she is saving it for the final 4 aswell
Fessy breaking the sink was awesome
Interesting rule breaking you could think about it like card counters in Vegas since counting cards is legal it becomes illegal when the players try to break the system for there advantage