This is Fil SoloDallas and THIS video is the FIRST and only video which RELIABLY speaks about some of the REAL details behind the recording of album Back in Black and AC/DC’s philosophy (Mutt’s approach). Let it be known, I haven’t participated in the making of this video, but I’m quite fond of it. Well done, Fil “SoloDallas”
Summer of 79' Bon was very much alive. He died in early Feb. 80'. Brian had his vinyl shop up and running and got a call, to audition for the band. Then got an offer to do an Ad for Hoover vacuums the same day. Check out his book. It's a great read.
Yeah, I meant 1980, a lot of people have corrected me on that . (im sure there’ll be many more to come 😅) I heard that Hoover ad, I thought about putting it in the video as it’s quite funny, especially compared to Back in Black.
@@bobtuiliga8691Well, the good news is that you have the access to the same sources as the poster. Very much looking forward to watching your detailed video on this.
Back in Black is one of a few albums that evolved from cassette to LP to CD with me through my teen years. Now I can listen to it digitally, the future is all the past.
Such a MASTERPIECE! This album got me into rock in 1980.. love all kinds of music but this album is so unbelievably special. No one can come close to covering Back in Black. What a song. What a album
Such a crushing album. I first bought the album. But when I got it in my car's cassette deck back in 1980, it was constantly in it. I've never heard a more better produced album. Well, this one and Boston's first album.
Great video and really good use of UA-cam :-) the bit about too much compression use is a lesson for today’s producers. If you see a waveform of one of a stereo mix from the songs from the Back in Black album there is a lot of room between the peaks and troughs. It’s closer to a wave form you might expect from a classical recording than a rock ‘n’ roll one. Check out a similar wave from a modern song and it’s almost black from top to bottom where everything is compressed right up to get the loudest sound possible. Trouble with that is, while it has initial impact, it is quickly fatiguing to listen to. That is one reason why old recordings are easy to have on in the background without fatigue, where is modern ones demand your attention, but quickly become too much. It is the aural equivalent of caffeine or fluorescent lighting.
Really solid video! Much appreciated! A quick note on the Schaffer-Vega, taken from a Sweetwater article where they attempt to recreate the guitar tone on BIB: "NOTE: Many people believe that Angus’s sound on the tracking dates was a result of the Schaffer-Vega Diversity System, but the sound that we achieved didn’t use that system. We found a quote from tracking engineer Tony Platt stating that Angus used the SVDS only on the solos. In Platt’s own words: “Angus used a radio transmitter when doing the solos. His guitar was the only overdub and he would then play rhythm after the solo, all the way to the end so the dynamics didn’t drop. However, the sound that his radio transmitter gave the guitar was quite different.” "
Great vid, especially for someone who plays and records, and loves AC/DC. Loved the Zep ones for the same reason. I know there are a 1000 other albums you could dig into, but since you did a couple of the Zep ones, and now hit Back in Black, would love to see one on Highway to Hell. One of my favorite albums of all time, and the sound of that album is fantastic. While similar to Back in Black, definitely has a different sound as well. I think it sounds more open but more intimate and "in the room" at the same time, if that makes sense.
Absolutely makes sense! I actually thought about doing 'Highway To Hell' when doing this one. It does sounds great, very of that time and I'm a big fan of that sound. I have to do a video on it, thanks a lot for the suggestion.
Never heard of Agnes using a combo in the studio (1958) I’d always read he used a Superlead (1959) and JTM45/50’s and as he used to say the older the better!
@@mixingmasteringonline Tony Platt mistaken the Back in Black sessions with the Flick of the Switch ones... in those session cliff actually played the Steinberger... in the Back in Black session cliff probably used the Gisbon Thunderbird
I agree man I’ve tried giving tips on how to properly sound like angus and no one listens the tribute bands don’t even sound like angus either fyi I’m not the real angus
Right after you talked about Angus' amps, there's a picture of a Marshall with two inputs. That either a JMP 2203 or the JCM 2203, which are pretty much the same amp. I would think it's the JMP, because they had previously been using the master volume JMPs.
Folks would be surprised how much of that Equipment is still being used. In this digital nightmare or should I say convenience. Of today's Recording techniques. Good Channel 👍🏻
Great video! I wish the same team recorded. For those about to rock ,flick of the switch and fly on the wall. I love those albums but they sound more raw ( and I know that's what AC/DC wanted) But Back and Black sounds SOOO good Years ago by buddie ( we are both guitar players ) told me about Angus wireless system and how it added to his tone. Know I know what it was
@perrysar5954 Yeah, 'Beating Around the Bush has great guitar sound. That whole album sounds fantastic. My favorite tones are on 'Night Prowler' and 'If You want Blood.'
I’m sure Bon Scott heard some of these songs as AC/DC tours I’m pretty sure they recorded ideas and hooks and lyrical notes. Malcolm and Angus always wrote riffs and threw ideas on song titles. But Back in Black is a masterpiece. But so is Powerage and Highway to Hell , and Let there be Rock❤
In that photo of the them rehearsing at 3:23 that is definitely a 2204 or 2203 Master volume Marshall there on top (only two horizontal inputs), not a plexi or a JTM50. What do we know about this photo? Did they use the 2204 on the album?
Ok... ok.. screw the wireless thing. First,the best sound was on let there be rock... If you disagree, I can't help. It's obvious... now... the key to that sound was running the mic pre into the red.. broiled... no wireless,no reverb.
Sorry, but I actually think it's essential to say that there were no duplicate recordings. You hear that as well. But you're on the right path. The amp was recorded u67 and u87 pair and that was because Tony Platt could mix them so that one mic was hard panned (my guess is fuller u67 to fill one ear) and then put the other mic slightly off center to the opposite side (my guess is more defined u87). There was also a track in the middle that continued to fill the space after solo. That can be heard after the back in black solo. But you also hear it quite clearly in the You Shook Me All Night Long refrains even before the solo. Maximum three tracks. My source is also Tony Platt, who remember this quite clearly and tells about it in 2-4 podcast episodes you can find on Spotify or wherever. He also skipped the next album but came back to the same studio as co-producer for Flick Of The Switch and actually repeated everything much the same and the first mixes were very Back In Black sounding, and here Malcolm stepped in and said that he wanted a rawer sound - demanded it really. So Flick Of The Switch is a very organic sound albums. Very rare for the 80s and I love that. I suppose you can call it proto Steve Albini naturalism. He is a huge AC/DC fan of course.
That's right. Multi mic recordings but not performances, as in two mic feeds were taken from the same amp (or different amps depending on the song according to Tony Platt). Flick of the switch is quite raw for the time, I'm glad Malcolm stepped up!
I was a part owner of a sound reinforcement company that had a ridiculous quad amp powered PA. It was used to shake a couple of Fat Tuesday celebrations in Pioneer Square in Seattle. We played it, and I think I saw God. My partner said, "It's just the blues". I lost all respect for Bob that day.
Did Cliff really play the Steinberger bass? In the photos he is only seen with his Stingray. Are there any photos of him with the Steinberger in the studio?
@@mixingmasteringonlinehe played the steinberger in the studio and on stage during the recording and tour of blow up your video which was 8 years after BIB.
💥HOW ABOUT👇🏼 More on the composing of the lyrics 👇🏼 Lyric Propagation what was already put together by BON and what was not etc….. needs much more clarification
I recall that "Back In Black" was already recorded and just needed a few more vocals and mixing. I would not be surprised to find that there is a version around with Bon singing. That would be great to hear for old times sake. Nothin against Brian though. Good man.
I would love that! Not a huge Brian fan. BIB would be 1000 times better with Bon. And I can believe your story. I find it very hard to believe that AC/DC was able to write BIB as quickly as the storyline goes. I'm assuming at least the great tracks were Bon. Brian seems like a good guy but personally I think Angry from Rose Tattoo should have been the choice. He can actually write good music and still can sing. Brian is toast.
I couldn’t find definitive info on that. Seems like it was Marshall 4x12’s and could be the same G12-65 that Angus had or Greenbacks have been mentioned..
Don't get me wrong I think Pyromania is one of the greatest albums of the 80s but ac/dc wasn't begging mut to record the album like def leppard who even fired there original guitarist and the original member of the band for mut if you listen to how Pyromania was recorded it's insane basically mut told them to record as many riffs as possible and then took the riffs and arranged all the songs with a drum machine then brought the drummer in to hit a few Sims so they could say wrote by def leppard it was technically wrote by leppard because it was there riffs but really it was mut taking everything and creating the songs it's true I really doubt someone as great as Malcom who wrote some the greatest all time rock riffs would let anyone do that
B.I.B, Even though it has sold fifty million copies as of 2024. I do believe had Bon lived the album would’ve sold even better. The whole recording process of the album as released is very odd, considering Bon died in February and the album dropped with new vocalist a mere four months later. I was fifteen when the album originally released that summer and I did not like it when I heard it. All these years later it still hits me wrong. The album is to pitchy sounding and pieced together in a hurried manner. To my ears it lacks tonal depth that was common with Bon. Highway to hell is a much better album but that’s just my opinion.⚡️
strangely .....the sound of the record is uniform across the LP - betraying the different drum tunings and mics etc .....quite a feat to make the whole thing so cohesive sounding . Tony platt must have a great set of ears
I couldn’t find definitive info on that. Seems like it was Marshall 4x12’s and could be the same G12-65 that Angus had or Greenbacks have been mentioned..
Pyromania, not Hysteria. After Pyromania Def Leppard promised never to undergo another session like that again. That's when they started making elevator music and why Def Leppard sucks today.
So many things wrong with this. Brian was running his own vinyl car roof business when he joined not an apprentice engineer.....an apprentice engineer at 32 years of age lol
Right from the start you’re wrong. Bon was still very much alive in the summer of ‘79. Get at least your facts right when you post something. And it’s a bit a unnecessary post ; nothing new here.
Wow..#2 all time to thriller..gotta make sure these blue collar guys don't hit #1. ..I wonder how many extra pressings they had to do to keep ACDC from getting the title .lol. What a bunch of BS..i have never compared to the two albums..but a track for track battle royal is in order .my money is on ACDC..all killer no filler...better than thriller...gotta keep the riff Raff out of the top spot
Ummmm. Bon died in Feb of '80. And he obviously had a big hand in the best moments on BIB. They went in to record in April? Please. They never reached the heights again. I'm sure that was only a coincidence.
@rocknroll1973 I would disagree about the heights. All the Bon records are better than BIB. Yes they hit gold on BIB but I can't believe they were able to write BIB in a month and a half. Just impossible. BIB had Bon stuff on it. And then there is the story of his lyric book being stolen. I'd admit if it was true. The drop off in quality after FTATR is staggering. So either the Young bros completely ran out of steam (which is possible) or Bon was very important to what's great about AC/DC. Their setlists today are mainly Bon stuff and BIB. And a few turds off whatever album they are pushing that tour. This argument is pointless though. My mind will never be changed and I'll continue to listen to the Bon records. BIB hasn't been on my turntable in 30 years.
@rocknroll1973 I agree about Malcolm. The two most important members are dead and the third most important is Phil who's batshit crazy. I count only American releases in my AC/DC lineup. And yes, I do like the Bon records much more than Brian's. Except when I was 10 and BIB had just come out and loved FTATR. But as I grew older I found Bon to be the better fit. I like FTATR better than BIB except for Hells Bells. Now that is a stone cold masterpiece. Is Thunderstruck bigger the You Shook Me... Maybe chart wise but it was a different time in 1980. BIB was a hit when it came out but nowhere near the status it has today so I would argue that chart success on BIB is of little relevance in that case. I think HTH blows away BIB. But these are just opinions brother. I don't have to get over Bon because I buy an AC/DC record these days and listen for awhile then it goes on the shelf and collects dust. Much like my Stones records after '83. So I'm a Bon guy. Brian is toast these days and there is zero way I'm going to a stadium to see an ant sized Angus even for $100. Much less than what bands charge these days. Take a look at Thunderstruck from the recent Power Trip festival off UA-cam. Hard to believe the 80 year old Stones blow them away. I do enjoy Stiff Upper Lip probably the most out of their most recent albums. Even though it was like 24 years ago. Yes, I did read Fink's book. And enjoyed it. But it certainly could be total fiction although Cliff saying it's BS is par for the course. I think there is more to the story than what AC/DC says about the writing of BIB. I think there is evidence of Bon on it. Otherwise the early records would sound like BIB.
@rocknroll1973 Is English your first language? Not being a dick, just wondering. And you're right, I don't care enough anymore to keep up on current events. You're probably a Van Hagar guy too. I'm done with this argument. Have a nice night sir.
@rocknroll1973 How old are you? Your replies were full of misspellings and lack of punctuation. I told you I was done with this argument as there's none to be had. Watch the movie "Let There Be Rock" then watch any show from the Brian era. If you don't agree then we just agree to disagree. No biggie. I don't care for the Brian era after FTATR. If you love the years following then I'm happy for you. I'm always looking for more music to love from my favorite artists. But I don't find much from the Brian era. Would love to. And Van Hagar is what Van Halen turned into after DLR left. Two different bands in my opinion and is a well known name for those years. Again I'm done. I love AC/DC but there is a point in their career I don't care for and have lost interest in what they are up to. I still buy the albums, give them a good chance then I don't go back to them. Period. Again, glad you love those albums as you have far more to enjoy than I do of such a great band. Can we drop it now?
And HTH is when the production got more appealing to the masses. Before the records were down and dirty. HTH set up BIB to be a bigger album and I'm sure Brian's voice was also more appealing to the masses. Certainly doesn't make it better. And the song HTH is one of their most well known now.
“She told me to come, but I was already there” is one of the most famous (and humorous) lines in rock ‘n roll. Those lyrics were written by Brian Johnson.
This is Fil SoloDallas and THIS video is the FIRST and only video which RELIABLY speaks about some of the REAL details behind the recording of album Back in Black and AC/DC’s philosophy (Mutt’s approach). Let it be known, I haven’t participated in the making of this video, but I’m quite fond of it. Well done, Fil “SoloDallas”
Thank you!
That’s all the kudos I need to see. If Phil says it, it’s gold.
Yet within the first 10 seconds of they imply Bon died in 1979
That’s cool to see behind the sences footage on the recording of back in black
How's it going Dallas. Just wanted to say my wife and I miss your incredible performances on UA-cam. Be well my friend and God Bless.
Dude this is GOLD. Please keep doing classic albums. These are so so good
Thank you, definitely many more to come!
#1 selling rock record of all time!!!
Summer of 79' Bon was very much alive. He died in early Feb. 80'.
Brian had his vinyl shop up and running and got a call, to audition for the band.
Then got an offer to do an Ad for Hoover vacuums the same day.
Check out his book. It's a great read.
Yeah, I meant 1980, a lot of people have corrected me on that . (im sure there’ll be many more to come 😅) I heard that Hoover ad, I thought about putting it in the video as it’s quite funny, especially compared to Back in Black.
@@mixingmasteringonline makes me wonder how carefully you checked the rest of the facts?
@@bobtuiliga8691Well, the good news is that you have the access to the same sources as the poster. Very much looking forward to watching your detailed video on this.
@@dasfette I wouldn't post a detailed video unless I knew my facts were correct
@@bobtuiliga8691 Well, then please do.
Back in Black is one of a few albums that evolved from cassette to LP to CD with me through my teen years. Now I can listen to it digitally, the future is all the past.
Such a MASTERPIECE! This album got me into rock in 1980.. love all kinds of music but this album is so unbelievably special. No one can come close to covering Back in Black. What a song. What a album
Very useful information. Phil's drums sounded better than ever on the BIB album. Now we know why.
Brilliant , thank you very much!
Thank you!
Such a crushing album. I first bought the album. But when I got it in my car's cassette deck back in 1980, it was constantly in it. I've never heard a more better produced album. Well, this one and Boston's first album.
Yeah, the next album that came that has different but equally amazing production is Metallica's Black Album.
and Bostons first album was produced and recorded at home...which says a lot
Every song on this legendary fantastic album is brilliant
Great video and really good use of UA-cam :-) the bit about too much compression use is a lesson for today’s producers. If you see a waveform of one of a stereo mix from the songs from the Back in Black album there is a lot of room between the peaks and troughs. It’s closer to a wave form you might expect from a classical recording than a rock ‘n’ roll one. Check out a similar wave from a modern song and it’s almost black from top to bottom where everything is compressed right up to get the loudest sound possible. Trouble with that is, while it has initial impact, it is quickly fatiguing to listen to. That is one reason why old recordings are easy to have on in the background without fatigue, where is modern ones demand your attention, but quickly become too much. It is the aural equivalent of caffeine or fluorescent lighting.
Really solid video! Much appreciated!
A quick note on the Schaffer-Vega, taken from a Sweetwater article where they attempt to recreate the guitar tone on BIB:
"NOTE: Many people believe that Angus’s sound on the tracking dates was a result of the Schaffer-Vega Diversity System, but the sound that we achieved didn’t use that system. We found a quote from tracking engineer Tony Platt stating that Angus used the SVDS only on the solos. In Platt’s own words: “Angus used a radio transmitter when doing the solos. His guitar was the only overdub and he would then play rhythm after the solo, all the way to the end so the dynamics didn’t drop. However, the sound that his radio transmitter gave the guitar was quite different.” "
Thank you!
Just found you channel today! I love the equipment rundown. Cant wait to go through your other videos! Cheers, from Texas!!
Thank you! I hope you enjoy my other videos 😃
Its THE Album!
Great vid, especially for someone who plays and records, and loves AC/DC. Loved the Zep ones for the same reason. I know there are a 1000 other albums you could dig into, but since you did a couple of the Zep ones, and now hit Back in Black, would love to see one on Highway to Hell. One of my favorite albums of all time, and the sound of that album is fantastic. While similar to Back in Black, definitely has a different sound as well. I think it sounds more open but more intimate and "in the room" at the same time, if that makes sense.
Absolutely makes sense! I actually thought about doing 'Highway To Hell' when doing this one. It does sounds great, very of that time and I'm a big fan of that sound. I have to do a video on it, thanks a lot for the suggestion.
I always wondered how they recorded something that never goes out of style. Great info here!
Cheers!
Never heard of Agnes using a combo in the studio (1958) I’d always read he used a Superlead (1959) and JTM45/50’s and as he used to say the older the better!
Excelente! Gracias!
Thank you!
They did the right thing. Rock in peace and much respect to Bon? But great and much respect to Brian as well.
Absolutely fantastic video. Thanks 🙏
Thank you! 😃
RIP Bon 🙏 AC/DC 1978 Adelaide Australia 🇦🇺
Phil's drums and Cliff's bass are so loud and clear on Back in Black. Even moreso on the remaster.
Nice, there's only one mistake. Cliff Williams did not play a Steinberger on the album. He got his one in not until june 1983.
Cheers! It was Tony Platt that said it in an interview, I thought it sounded suspicious 🤔
@@mixingmasteringonline Tony Platt mistaken the Back in Black sessions with the Flick of the Switch ones... in those session cliff actually played the Steinberger... in the Back in Black session cliff probably used the Gisbon Thunderbird
Now 20,000 guitarists bought the Shaefer, same amps and mics and still dont sound like angus.
“Instant Angus!!”
😂
I agree man I’ve tried giving tips on how to properly sound like angus and no one listens the tribute bands don’t even sound like angus either fyi I’m not the real angus
Except for Solo Dallas he sounds like angus
@@angusyoung7668 "Except for Solo Dallas" Kinda.
Right after you talked about Angus' amps, there's a picture of a Marshall with two inputs. That either a JMP 2203 or the JCM 2203, which are pretty much the same amp. I would think it's the JMP, because they had previously been using the master volume JMPs.
Excellent Break Down on the Equipment used for the Recording
Thank you!
Folks would be surprised how much of that Equipment is still being used. In this digital nightmare or should I say convenience. Of today's Recording techniques. Good Channel 👍🏻
Coincedently, the last album with Bon, & the 1st record with Brian are AC/DCs best 2 albums of their whole carreer imo
Loved this album growing up. Great little documentary
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Great presentation! Thank you.
Thank you!
Great video!
I wish the same team recorded. For those about to rock ,flick of the switch and fly on the wall. I love those albums but they sound more raw ( and I know that's what AC/DC wanted) But Back and Black sounds SOOO good
Years ago by buddie ( we are both guitar players ) told me about Angus wireless system and how it added to his tone.
Know I know what it was
Thank you!
Wrong from the very first sentence. Bon Scott died in February of 1980.
Yeah, meant to say 1980.
'Back in Black' sounds awesome, but I think the guitar sound on 'Powerage,' 'Fly on the Wall,' and 'Flick of the Switch' are way better.
Good point Cleveland but how about the tone on Beating around the Bush from Highway to Hell... that tone is pure Rock and Roll!
@perrysar5954 Yeah, 'Beating Around the Bush has great guitar sound. That whole album sounds fantastic. My favorite tones are on 'Night Prowler' and 'If You want Blood.'
you must be kidding, @guitarcleveland
The entire album is drowning in reverb, it absolutely isn't used "sparingly"
That came from Tony Platt so maybe he and Mutt Lange wanted a lot more! Glad they didn’t..
An absolute STAPLE‼️🎶✨💫. . .
I learned something. I always thought Malcolm used the White Falcon on the recording of Back in Black album.
Just found your channel. This is the kind of thing I like to hear about - the background to the recording of great albums.
Subscribed.
Thank you!
Great video- i wonder if there is any video of the band recording BIB, ive never seen any - that would be epic!!
I’m sure Bon Scott heard some of these songs as AC/DC tours I’m pretty sure they recorded ideas and hooks and lyrical notes. Malcolm and Angus always wrote riffs and threw ideas on song titles. But Back in Black is a masterpiece. But so is Powerage and Highway to Hell , and Let there be Rock❤
In that photo of the them rehearsing at 3:23 that is definitely a 2204 or 2203 Master volume Marshall there on top (only two horizontal inputs), not a plexi or a JTM50. What do we know about this photo? Did they use the 2204 on the album?
Ok... ok.. screw the wireless thing. First,the best sound was on let there be rock... If you disagree, I can't help. It's obvious... now... the key to that sound was running the mic pre into the red.. broiled... no wireless,no reverb.
We'll pile on...we be pretty damn sure we saw Bon alive mid- September 1979,Midland Texas. LOUD
awesome
Thank you!
Feb 19, 1980, is when Bon tragically passed.
Excellent… more Mutt Lange please ✊🙂
Thank you! Definitely going to be more Mutt!
Another good one MMO. Please consider doing a deep dive into producer/engineer Eddie Offord, of Yes and ELP fame. Thanks!
Thank you, and thanks for the tip on Eddie Oxford 👍
a classic classic.
I don't believe the part about all the lyrics being brians. i think a lot more of bons lyrics were used than they admitted
Sorry, but I actually think it's essential to say that there were no duplicate recordings. You hear that as well. But you're on the right path. The amp was recorded u67 and u87 pair and that was because Tony Platt could mix them so that one mic was hard panned (my guess is fuller u67 to fill one ear) and then put the other mic slightly off center to the opposite side (my guess is more defined u87). There was also a track in the middle that continued to fill the space after solo. That can be heard after the back in black solo. But you also hear it quite clearly in the You Shook Me All Night Long refrains even before the solo. Maximum three tracks. My source is also Tony Platt, who remember this quite clearly and tells about it in 2-4 podcast episodes you can find on Spotify or wherever.
He also skipped the next album but came back to the same studio as co-producer for Flick Of The Switch and actually repeated everything much the same and the first mixes were very Back In Black sounding, and here Malcolm stepped in and said that he wanted a rawer sound - demanded it really. So Flick Of The Switch is a very organic sound albums. Very rare for the 80s and I love that. I suppose you can call it proto Steve Albini naturalism. He is a huge AC/DC fan of course.
That's right. Multi mic recordings but not performances, as in two mic feeds were taken from the same amp (or different amps depending on the song according to Tony Platt). Flick of the switch is quite raw for the time, I'm glad Malcolm stepped up!
As a ACDC tribute artist of almost 30 yrs nice job !
Thank you!
I was a part owner of a sound reinforcement company that had a ridiculous quad amp powered PA. It was used to shake a couple of Fat Tuesday celebrations in Pioneer Square in Seattle. We played it, and I think I saw God. My partner said, "It's just the blues". I lost all respect for Bob that day.
I still don't believe Jackson has sold more records... body's buying his album anymore, but people still buy Back In Black.
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1960AX? They must have swapped the speakers, those came stock with 25 watt Greenbacks
Bon died in February 1980. They started recording with Brian about a month or two later. Get your timeline straight, young fella.
‘Young fella’. I’ll take that thank you! 😃
Did Cliff really play the Steinberger bass? In the photos he is only seen with his Stingray. Are there any photos of him with the Steinberger in the studio?
That came from Tony Platt, I’m a bit skeptical now though. Seems hard to pin down for sone reason..
@@mixingmasteringonlinehe played the steinberger in the studio and on stage during the recording and tour of blow up your video which was 8 years after BIB.
Great video and such an iconic album.
I always felt that the album cover was a bit of a rip off of Status Quo’s Hello, from 1973. 🤔
Thank you! I've not heard that one, I'll have a listen..
These are so good. God bless you.
Thank you!
Thriller was released over two years after Back In Black.
💥HOW ABOUT👇🏼
More on the composing of the lyrics 👇🏼
Lyric Propagation what was already put together by BON and what was not etc…..
needs much more clarification
I’m coming at it from more of a technical perspective, this channel is more about recording/mixing techniques and equipment.
I’m coming at it from more of a technical perspective, this channel is more about recording/mixing techniques and equipment.
Guitars w/ u67 or 87? Did not expect that.
4:24, looks like Mal on drums
Bon Scott died in February 1980
Lots of pictures with Simon ?, Wasn't Phil on drums on BnB?
I thought the same. Should have been all Phil pics. Simon didn't come along until Flick of the Switch.
I recall that "Back In Black" was already recorded and just needed a few more vocals and mixing. I would not be surprised to find that there is a version around with Bon singing. That would be great to hear for old times sake. Nothin against Brian though. Good man.
I would love that! Not a huge Brian fan. BIB would be 1000 times better with Bon. And I can believe your story. I find it very hard to believe that AC/DC was able to write BIB as quickly as the storyline goes. I'm assuming at least the great tracks were Bon. Brian seems like a good guy but personally I think Angry from Rose Tattoo should have been the choice. He can actually write good music and still can sing. Brian is toast.
Has anyone ever heard any genuine demos from BIB? There has to be ones somewhere
Not that I know of..
The original black album
Which speakers Malcom used?
I couldn’t find definitive info on that. Seems like it was Marshall 4x12’s and could be the same G12-65 that Angus had or Greenbacks have been mentioned..
Never heard Geordie referred to as glam rock before
Don't get me wrong I think Pyromania is one of the greatest albums of the 80s but ac/dc wasn't begging mut to record the album like def leppard who even fired there original guitarist and the original member of the band for mut if you listen to how Pyromania was recorded it's insane basically mut told them to record as many riffs as possible and then took the riffs and arranged all the songs with a drum machine then brought the drummer in to hit a few Sims so they could say wrote by def leppard it was technically wrote by leppard because it was there riffs but really it was mut taking everything and creating the songs it's true I really doubt someone as great as Malcom who wrote some the greatest all time rock riffs would let anyone do that
Good lesson in how to be conservatives with compression and effects and how much better it is to get a great performance.
B.I.B,
Even though it has sold fifty million copies as of 2024. I do believe had Bon lived the album would’ve sold even better. The whole recording process of the album as released is very odd, considering Bon died in February and the album dropped with new vocalist a mere four months later. I was fifteen when the album originally released that summer and I did not like it when I heard it. All these years later it still hits me wrong. The album is to pitchy sounding and pieced together in a hurried manner. To my ears it lacks tonal depth that was common with Bon. Highway to hell is a much better album but that’s just my opinion.⚡️
Apparently, before brian Johnson joined jimmy barnes from cold chisel was asked to sing for acdc
Brian quit his job as an apprentice engineer to join AC/DC? Reckon you'll find it was Geordie he did that for.
Summer of 1979 ?
strangely .....the sound of the record is uniform across the LP - betraying the different drum tunings and mics etc .....quite a feat to make the whole thing so cohesive sounding . Tony platt must have a great set of ears
Angus could not have used a 1958 Marshall head into a 1960 cab as Marshall didn't start making amps until 1963.
1958 is the model number.
@@mixingmasteringonline Aha!!
And Malcolm's cab?
I couldn’t find definitive info on that. Seems like it was Marshall 4x12’s and could be the same G12-65 that Angus had or Greenbacks have been mentioned..
@@mixingmasteringonline Different opinions on that one.. Thanks for reply and great video!
@@MarchPancake Thank you!
Cliff Williams used a Steinberger?! Whoa.
I know, I was very surprised at that!
Heard he liked the mics and harness so much, he removed it to fit his old Fender Precision bass
So the very first statement is wrong… Bon died in 1980. Tough to continue watching after such a blunder…
karen
1979??? argh... my God...
This is all great, but the sound comes from the players themselves. It’s in their fingers. Period.
Pyromania, not Hysteria. After Pyromania Def Leppard promised never to undergo another session like that again. That's when they started making elevator music and why Def Leppard sucks today.
Wrong.....Hysteria was the one that took longest to record.
So many things wrong with this. Brian was running his own vinyl car roof business when he joined not an apprentice engineer.....an apprentice engineer at 32 years of age lol
As any real player knows"its ALL in the fingers, not the amp". Angus would sound like Angus on anybody's amp. So would Eddie, Zakk, etc.
I'll keep saying it... ANALOG kills Digital BaBy!!😛👊👊
Bon had nothing to do with B.I.B. except a drum beat. People need to stop being so gullible. Angus already confirmed it.
Yes YOU do need to stop being so gullible and naive. wtf do you think he’s gonna say? 🙄🤦🏻♂️
Right from the start you’re wrong. Bon was still very much alive in the summer of ‘79. Get at least your facts right when you post something. And it’s a bit a unnecessary post ; nothing new here.
You're absolutely right, it should be summer of 1980 there. I'm a huge fan of their contribution to how rock records should sound.
@@mixingmasteringonline 👍🏻😊
You sound butthurt
Nothing new here,carry on
Nothing new for who?
Wow..#2 all time to thriller..gotta make sure these blue collar guys don't hit #1. ..I wonder how many extra pressings they had to do to keep ACDC from getting the title .lol. What a bunch of BS..i have never compared to the two albums..but a track for track battle royal is in order .my money is on ACDC..all killer no filler...better than thriller...gotta keep the riff Raff out of the top spot
Ummmm. Bon died in Feb of '80. And he obviously had a big hand in the best moments on BIB. They went in to record in April? Please. They never reached the heights again. I'm sure that was only a coincidence.
@rocknroll1973 I would disagree about the heights. All the Bon records are better than BIB. Yes they hit gold on BIB but I can't believe they were able to write BIB in a month and a half. Just impossible. BIB had Bon stuff on it. And then there is the story of his lyric book being stolen. I'd admit if it was true. The drop off in quality after FTATR is staggering. So either the Young bros completely ran out of steam (which is possible) or Bon was very important to what's great about AC/DC. Their setlists today are mainly Bon stuff and BIB. And a few turds off whatever album they are pushing that tour. This argument is pointless though. My mind will never be changed and I'll continue to listen to the Bon records. BIB hasn't been on my turntable in 30 years.
@rocknroll1973 I agree about Malcolm. The two most important members are dead and the third most important is Phil who's batshit crazy. I count only American releases in my AC/DC lineup. And yes, I do like the Bon records much more than Brian's. Except when I was 10 and BIB had just come out and loved FTATR. But as I grew older I found Bon to be the better fit. I like FTATR better than BIB except for Hells Bells. Now that is a stone cold masterpiece. Is Thunderstruck bigger the You Shook Me... Maybe chart wise but it was a different time in 1980. BIB was a hit when it came out but nowhere near the status it has today so I would argue that chart success on BIB is of little relevance in that case. I think HTH blows away BIB. But these are just opinions brother. I don't have to get over Bon because I buy an AC/DC record these days and listen for awhile then it goes on the shelf and collects dust. Much like my Stones records after '83. So I'm a Bon guy. Brian is toast these days and there is zero way I'm going to a stadium to see an ant sized Angus even for $100. Much less than what bands charge these days. Take a look at Thunderstruck from the recent Power Trip festival off UA-cam. Hard to believe the 80 year old Stones blow them away. I do enjoy Stiff Upper Lip probably the most out of their most recent albums. Even though it was like 24 years ago. Yes, I did read Fink's book. And enjoyed it. But it certainly could be total fiction although Cliff saying it's BS is par for the course. I think there is more to the story than what AC/DC says about the writing of BIB. I think there is evidence of Bon on it. Otherwise the early records would sound like BIB.
@rocknroll1973 Is English your first language? Not being a dick, just wondering. And you're right, I don't care enough anymore to keep up on current events. You're probably a Van Hagar guy too. I'm done with this argument. Have a nice night sir.
@rocknroll1973 How old are you? Your replies were full of misspellings and lack of punctuation. I told you I was done with this argument as there's none to be had. Watch the movie "Let There Be Rock" then watch any show from the Brian era. If you don't agree then we just agree to disagree. No biggie. I don't care for the Brian era after FTATR. If you love the years following then I'm happy for you. I'm always looking for more music to love from my favorite artists. But I don't find much from the Brian era. Would love to. And Van Hagar is what Van Halen turned into after DLR left. Two different bands in my opinion and is a well known name for those years. Again I'm done. I love AC/DC but there is a point in their career I don't care for and have lost interest in what they are up to. I still buy the albums, give them a good chance then I don't go back to them. Period. Again, glad you love those albums as you have far more to enjoy than I do of such a great band. Can we drop it now?
And HTH is when the production got more appealing to the masses. Before the records were down and dirty. HTH set up BIB to be a bigger album and I'm sure Brian's voice was also more appealing to the masses. Certainly doesn't make it better. And the song HTH is one of their most well known now.
Brian who?
Just proves you have to say the words super and like, a Funky relief not to here a septic or AI pronouncing.all the funky word wrong,
None… none more black.
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This album turned me off Ac\Dc I cannot listen to them. For me they lost the humour and fun of what they were with Bon.
“She told me to come, but I was already there” is one of the most famous (and humorous) lines in rock ‘n roll. Those lyrics were written by Brian Johnson.
This band was great in it's time, but now just needs to go away.....
Made a mistake right off the bat on the death of Bon, was February 1980, not 1979.
A real rock album Nazareth hair of the dog