1950's Edsel Bermuda Wagon and Pacer Convertible
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- Dennis travels to Woodland Park, CO and goes for a spin in a couple of '58 Edsels.
0:00 - Intro
2:15 - 1958 Edsel Bermuda Wagon
5:11 - 1958 Edsel Bermuda Wagon Drive
9:06 - 1958 Edsel Pacer Convertible
12:44 - 1958 Edsel Pacer Convertible Drive
S23E04
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Notice how quiet that car is when he started it. No bell's dingers buzzers no flashing lights. And no seat belts!!! Love it. And to think despite it's age it can still be a very reliable car today.
This is the only youtube channel that can make me feel like I'm watching an 80s - 90s PBS car show. And that is a very positive thing
That's why I watch it all the time.
That is a great way to put it! Absolutely love this show! Hope they eventually will do more.
That Bermuda Wagon is just perfect in that setting. You can picture the happy American family going camping, with a canoe on the roof, like in a 1950s brochure.
Reading through all of the comments just solidifies my thought of what a Classic/Antique car is. It's truly more than just a car. A whole lot more. It's a materialistic object that evokes conversations, memories, brings people back to a time and a place. To me, this is extraordinary.
I think many of us share those feelings, I myself have vivid memories attached to cars my Father owned when I was young...
I have a 1959 Edsel Ranger 4 door hardtop with a 292 engine and a 2 speed automatic transmission. I love this old girl and she gets a lot of attention at car shows.
My favorite classic car is the Edsel. These two Edsel cars are beauties!
The Bermuda wagon is a rolling work of art...just beautiful!
Both cars are amazing. However, the 58 Edsel Bermuda wagon made me drool. Watching this video, filmed in the beautiful wilderness setting, and seeing both of these works of art travelling down the road is so perfect. Best video I've seen in a long time. I also liked that quick shot of the red Plymouth "Christine" in the garage.
Beautiful machinery, perfect scenery, made me feel like I had a wonderful day.
Glad to hear that!
If that wagon came from around Pottsville PA, then it is probably my Uncle Jack's old car. I was too young to remember all of the details, but I think he said it went to Colorado and the guy called him a bunch of times telling him how rare it was and asking him for more history. I think he sold it for $5500 as a very complete survivor in Hemmings around 1996. Uncle Jack was a character, he used to drive around in his '64 Continental convertible with mannequins, joking how he was on a "fantastic date" and just brighten everybody's day with jokes and stories. He helped shape my appreciation for our automotive culture and I did a huge burnout in my '87 Turbo Regal at his funeral that halted the procession for a minute. Even if this isn't the car, I'm glad that there is somebody that is this cool that is driving one and enjoying it.
Wonderful owner and beautiful setting. Great video. Thanks. Glad you included the dinosaur portion.
What nice scenery - car wise and geography !!
Edsel, Every Day Something Else Leaks😉🤪. Love those Edsels!
I like the Edsels in wagon form. The sides compliment the front fascia. Such an enigma , the Edsel design in my opinion.
When I was a kid in the 1980s I saw a '59 Villager white over blue I liked a lot. Edsels became cult cars fast because of everything. My '65 Park Lane had a console & tach. with the automatic.
Beautiful Edsels and beautiful Colorado.
I almost got an Edsel as a first car but it was a 3 on a tree and they wanted a little more than I could afford. But I’ll never forget just how cool that speedometer looked.
Leave it to Edsel to give the world a woodie station wagon with a two-tone paint job as well.
In my dream wagon collection I would want one of these wagons and a 59 Mercury 2 door wagon with that sweet hardtop styling.
Very special cars. Thank you for your cool videos, Dennis! Can't wait for the next one :-)
I love the styling of Edsels so much and someday I will have one as my daily driver :)
I remember first seeing an Edsel Bermuda in a book when I was 11 and I instantly fell in love with it, I'd love to drive a Bermuda on a cross country road trip
These cars especially make me appreciate new cars and modern technology. My Dad had an Edsel with the TeleTouch, and it was crap even 60 years ago. OMG he's got a 1955 Plymouth Belvedere Convertible in his Garage. I restored one of these and it took forever and all my energy, then once finished NOBODY appreciated that car. (Those that would all died of old age.)
I'm in love with both of these cars, with a major sweet spot for the wagon.
My first recollection of a Edsel wagon was when I was around 13 their was an old closed up lumber yard up the street from my house and their was this abandoned Edsel wagon me and my buddies would play around in for hours on end. To bad back then I did'nt know what it was and didn't know or even care what it was ,but we sure had fun back then.
What a beautiful couple of edsels!
I think that the uniqueness of the grill is what sets the 58 above and beyond the rest,not to mention the details of the interior design they stand out as an upper echelon vehicle!!!
Two really beautiful cars. I'm the same way about my love/hate relationship with some of the styling. Or at least I used to be. Unfortuneately, I've never owned one, and I never will, but I've really come around on these things. I've also recently discovered that I like wagons, often times more than the sedan, and I think that's where I am with these two. I also really, really love the colors on the wagon, and I always have been kind of partial to that shade of green. or anything similar to it really. I think I have my Dad to thank for that one. That color just screams out mid-century modern, and I love every second of viewing time of it. Yeah, seriously, the wagon just jumped right out at me and completely commanded my attention. And the dashboard and instrument cluster! Especially the speedometer! What a beauty that thing is. That one would be my "No you may NOT ride in it with me." Most of the time I'm fairly generous, even though I don't have much to be generous with, but not that wagon. No way, no how. That one would be me and me alone, and I'd probably spend a lot of time in it, not with anywhere in particular to go, just driving.
I was/am a car geek from the mid 50’s until today. (just turned 70 a week ago). I loved cars and saw ads on TV and in magazines. By the time the Edsel came out, I was able to talk my dad to going to see it at the local dealer on a Saturday. There was so much interest in it that the dealership was very crowded.
I’ve loved these cars for years and built at least one 1/24 scale model of it (and it probably ended up blown up by a firecracker like many of my models). I just always thought Edsels were so unique and interesting and I love these 2 that Dennis found. Great colors, great features, and who knew about the taillights on the wagon? Not me. Wish I could afford my own Edsel but that’s not likely to happen.
You and i both destroyed many model cars and now we kick our ass for being stupid doing that, we wish we had those models now. Kids don't build model cars these days, prices for the models now are ~ $20 to 25 us at Micheal's craft store and not much to choose from.
I remember saving money from my paper route to buy many model cars made by AMT.
I too wish i had a edsel now but that is a pipe dream.
The wagon quarter panels are 57 Ford with a lower bolt on piece to hold the lower end of the "arrow" light. Look carefully and you can see it.
Back then a few customizers used these pieces and Edsel wagon lights on the Fords.
You still might find a 57 Ford or Ranchero with an Edsel front cap and wagon tail lights. Ive seen 2.... In 1990 there was a red Edsel Ranchero with blue interior in Memphis !!
You put all that work into building a model only to blow it up with a firecracker?!
Josh Cade
Yup, pre-teen boys do stupid stuff. I used to also. Another thing we did was to race them down a hill. The only problem was that the only hill around was the slanted garage roof. That didn't work out too well either, what with gravity and all.
I am 4 yrs younger than you. I remember Edsels but not there wagon lineup. Don't really remember their hiarchy for series designations....Pacer, Ranger, Citation. But I do remember the marketing logic behind creating the Edsel. It was to move Mercury upmarket to compete with DeSoto, Chrysler, Olds and Buick. Edsel's role was to compete with Dodge and Pontiac although in 57 and 58 the 124" wheelbase Edsels did veer into Olds and Buick territory. Unbeknownst to me at the time the 1958 recession had a negative sales impact on medium priced cars and that contributed to the demise of the Edsel and DeSoto. It also accounted for the 1960 and 1961 down market move by Dodge and Mercury. 1961 had the 1st 6 cylinder full sized Mercurys in almost a decade. Meteor and Meteor 800.
Back in 1975, I had a high school friend who drove an Edsel Station Wagon everyday. On Saturday nights we could fit 11 high school buddies in it and go to five dollars a car night at the drive in. 😅 But of course we were all pretty skinny in those days.
Killer cars. Love them. Edsel had really great colour options.
Fantastic styling from amazing 50`s
That convertible is one of the most beautiful color combinations
that I've ever seen. Thank you Mike for sharing, thank you Dennis.
:)
superb cinematic photography.
I really love the Edsel... Love nearly each and every 50's american car and really wanted one for years but, being in europe didn't made things easy... Anyway I was decided and bought a '58 Plymouth, see this man also has one... Wanted a pushbutton transmission so bad, and it also had it... The Edsel was one of the cars I also had in mind but I really prefered the Plymouth even loving both of them... I spent many time watching again and again its original commercials from back in the day... How couldn't you go and buy one? Not long ago I even had the chance to see an Edsel in person, today they look a million dollars, even more in Europe.
This takes me back. My father in law had a pair of '58 Edsel Citation convertibles.
Beautiful pair Edsels. My complaint about the wagon is they used a '57 Ford style under the reworked taillights rather than Edsel styling. Same thing happened with the '55/'56 Pontiac wagon using the Chevy rear end styling (except for the Safari, which worked beautifully).
They were offered in 18 models in four trim levels and 90 color combinations.
The Citation convertible considered the flagship. Two engines available 400 or larger 475.
Torque ratings rather than cubic inch identification.
Production on shared lines with other Ford products.
Like: looks like a fun ride. Cheers from Michigan 🎻
The styling looks much better as a wagon.
Whenever I see Edsels I always think of the classic movie, "The Ghost and Mr. Chicken".
I prefer the station wagon version and I have to agree the years mentioned are really the fun years with body styles.
I want to go on vacation to this guy's house and be able to drive all his cars. I want those Edsels. I have Edsel envy.
These are great!! My dad had a 58 Pacer when I was in school. Edsel's sold quite well in 58 as I understand it. For some reason the automotive press savaged it. The styling was pretty subdued when you compare it to the garishness of the Lincoln, Olds, Buicks..etc for 58.
1958 was a very PONDEROUS year in Automotive Styling ... ergo : you may have a point
Edsel sales were OK, but not what they had hoped: For 1958 models 63,110 Edsels were sold in the United States, and 4,935 were sold in Canada. Four main things reduced sales of the Edsel 1) Quality problems, 2) styling was not popular, 3) national recession in 1958, 4) pricing: Depending on model and trim you could get a nicer Ford for less than the Ford size Edsels, or get a nice Mercury for the same price as the Mercury size Edsels. The 58 GM cars were indeed chrome plated tanks. All the styling was revised in 59. 🙂
Cool and the mountain tune up, that's a classic
They had to RETARD the timing, not advance. They would not run right at high altitudes other wise.
FANTASTICS CARS ...
One of the very best videos!
Thanks 👍 🙏
Thanks Dennise...Thanks Mike!!
Martha Stewart has a '58 Edsel also. It's never been restored, and she's maintained it to look as good as the day that she bought it new in 1958.
28 people came in here expecting to see an AMC Pacer convertible.
That wagon is a real gem. I love the rear quarter and taillight design. Still not a fan of the front end though. Thanks for showcasing these cars and what a great location !
Those taillights will also fit on a 57 Ford wagon or Ranchero although you need the little filler panel under the bottom half.
Excellent l!
Great job 👏🏻
What a perfect video in every way!!!
My favorite wagon of all time!
Better: Ford Ranch Wagon or Country Squire. Best: AMC Grand Wagoneer.
❤️ the real things ❤️
I have a 58 Ford Fairelane and love it.
Electric wipers were a dealer installed option that were made by Trico. '55-'57 Chevy used the same electric ww motor as a dealer installed option also.
Wanderful cars. Congrats..
Edsels are beautiful cars.
Beautifull cars, amazing Fords!!!
They are not Fords. Edsel was a stand alone brand. That was one of the many things that killed the Edsel, no dealer network. Eventually FOMOCO gave up on that and they were available at your Edsel Lincon Mercury dealers.
Love those cars. I got a 59 ranger with a 500 hp big block. I always thought the front would have looked good on a truck.
Beautiful Edsels just beautiful. I have a 59 Edsel wagon myself. But mine is going to be built for Old Iron/Relic Class Demolition Car. But please dont curse at me or cry for it. Its beyond reasonable repair or restoration.. I use the Junk of the Junk for demolition cars.. It had no windows and the seats and interior were trashed beyond use. It had no engine or trans.and had a tree growing in it . I'm putting a Olds 350 and 3/4 ton truck rear end and safety cage. At the end of the season it will be cut up and crushed. I will use different bumpers . All the chrome,grill and bumpers and all other savable parts are pulled off and have been sold. I just use the body and frame. I have a 74 Dodge Monaco wagon built for Stock Modified class and a 68 Cadillac Sedan Deville 4dr built for Super Stock Modified Weld class . Both cars have 350 Chevrolet V8 engines. But all cars were finished and beyond help. Good cars i fix and sell. I have a 69 Road Runner and my Aunts 64 Biscayne 4dr and 66 Bel Air 2dr post . The Road Runner has been rebuilt.. The 64 and 66 Chevrolets are low mileage original cars.
Love that wagon
I was a young boy when I first saw the Edsel at the Mercury dealer. I always thought it was a Mercury model, and that's the point. Had it been a Mercury model it would have never gotten the bad press. It's called properly marketing a product, because a derivative is easier than something that is totally new.
Edsel’s were called ugly due to the grill, but the Bugatti, one of the most expensive cars today has a grill of a similar shape, which is the shape of a toilet seat.
I love Edsels and find it such a shame that the perfect storm killed the car off. I also can't help thinking that the Edsel's lack of pedigree is the reason the "horse collar" grille was so maligned. A new marque with such a radical design was, to my mind always going to be difficult to pull off. However, and bear with me on this, The recent Alfa Romeos have that kind of styling now. The 156 when it was released could have been the what the Edsel of the 90's could have looked like. Or am i stretching things a bit? Either way Edsels are my favourite cars of that era.
David Gregg in my humble opinion the design was too busy and the Edsel had body lines with no symmetry or balance !
David Gregg...wow... horse collar ...good call i never looked at it like that..and i recall in 1959 end of that model year and the new 60's were in the show room
my dad wanted a edsel because it 's price had been reduced ... But my mom spotted the 60 starliner .. guess what we drove home in...lol... oh well the starliner war a fine looking
car..in fact we were the first family on the block to have a new car in the 60's after that every one else starting buying new cars..mom and dad started something...Cheers 🍺🇺🇸
I think the pushbutton transmission was a useless gimmick, having always preferred a column shifter.
There's a more riske interpretation of the "horse collar" grill.
There were lots of harsh learning opportunities with this rig. Still an interesting part of automotive history.
@David Gregg Not really a stretch I suppose. 156s were sometimes the butt of the joke because they looked like they got hit in the ass end. A lot of people can't seem to handle even a partially radical design, so it ends up backfiring on the maker.
Some where there is someone with a sales brochure still trying to pick out the colors and options for his new
Edsel. thats why they stopped making them people just couldnt decide in time.. now you pick grey or grey interior and blackwall tires, and maybe a air freshener.
Nice episode, Den. Like to see more of his cars if you get the chance. Love me some 50's Fords.
Cool collection, just got to hope a loose plug wire doesnt re - animate one of those dinosaurs
AWESOME!
Love the edsel especially the Bermuda and ranger
The perfect car for a family with five children.
one of my unfulfilled dreams (from back in the day) was to get a couple of wrecks, an edsel and '57 ford ranchero and build an Edsel Ranchero. somebody has to have done it by now.
I actually saw one of those sitting at a small repair and custom shop on US 61 between Lacrosse WI and Minneapolis WI several years ago. Passed it many times in a semi and finally had to pull over on the shoulder to walk back and see it. The Edsel front clip merged perfect, and it even had the Edsel taillights on it. He had quite a few cars. 63 1/2 Falcon conv... Red with white top and interior with factory 260 4-bbl and 4-speed, turbo Corvair, 57 hardtop conv. And even though they were up north, bodies were in real good condition. Also, on US 8 in WI grabbed a pic of a Pontiac, 55-56, 2-door station wagon that had the same style as the Nomad wagon... didn't even know Pontiac made something like that until I saw it. And, it was just sitting out there in the snow. How crazy and stupid people can be!!!
Plenty of Edsel Rancheros......Google it.
I could be as happy as Dennis if I had his job.
those pushbutton transmissions must be a pain in the ass to work on lmao
That Pacer is beautiful.....:-)
The name was borrowed for another beautiful car by AMC, in 1975.
Many custom '57 Fords have '58 Edsel wagon taillights.
Edsel Bermuda Wagon = The Family Truckster
Wish I'd come of age in the 50s..the cars were unique and the women had class..no tattoos or jeans..man they were sexy
When I saw the title of the video i got a wierd picture inside my head of an AMC Pacer without a roof.
My high school auto shop had 3 Edsels. Back then nobody wanted one and they couldn’t sell them so they were donated. Lol after starting the video I wonder if I worked on either Edsel, went to school 20 miles from woodland park.
WOOOOW!!!
Nice 😀
I saw the tail lights on a 57ford Fairlane somebody put them on they fitted perfect
If ford had reined in their styling department regarding that grille and rearranged the front, that could have been a really great car.In my view. I can understand why the teletouch transmission system only lasted one year though.
Wow ! I wait... 😁
It has it own beauty like a kinda like old threshing machine.
Oh how I would love to just be able to hear the owners tell the story without being interrupted and talked over.
Would it be fair to say that they were considered ugly in an era of tailfins. I find them to be very tasteful now.
Interestingly, the name "Pacer" was also applied to the gorgeous AMC classic.
Some cars of that era were also available with altitude compensators
Just gotta find a car with that wrap around window treatment, miss it ever since they stopped using them.
It is typically representative of mid-century modernism. It got the same response as houses of the same genre.
My dad said that Edsels were referred to as "a Ford with a toilet seat on the front."
Horsecollars Forever ❣
Been years since I've seen one........
I used to live there, when there was only stop light.
The Bermuda taillights and rear end are awesome! That may be my favorite 50s rear styling. I’m not sure how they are “confusing” in comparison to the ugly things on the pacer.
With them being classics that were fully restored, one would think that centering the steering wheel would be a priority.
On BOTH of them.
My friend has a citation, were trying to help him with that boat, were getting the engine rebuilt but we need to yank out the transmission to get rebuilt and its huge, its scary looking at it...
First read the headline "and Pacer convertible" I was thinking somebody did a one off top chop of a 1970's AMC Pacer. Really made me think WTF????
Same here. To be honest, it would be VERY neat if someone actually did that!
My like is #666. The commercial break was The Devil Went Down to Georgia for Dodge. On a video about the maligned and possibly cursed Edsel brand. None of this means anything aside from being a peculiar coincidence. BTW I love the wagon. It's amazing.
Once owned a 1957 Ranchero. Thought it would be fun to put Bermuda tail lights and fins along with an Edsel front end to create an Edsel Ranchero. Never got around to it.
Sidebar: '57 Ranchero was my first ride. In addition to the cool tail lights of the Edsel, I wanted to add the hood from a '58 Ford with its faux center scoop. It had chromies, obnoxious yellow in color with green tinted windows. Ah, Memory Lane!
There are custom made Edsel Ranchero. Google it for images and info.
They should have built a Edsel Ranchero and they could have called it the Roundup or the Maverick. It would have been a HOT seller.
@@markreisen7038 - I used to own a 1957 Ranchero, Custom 300. Model 66B That's the deluxe model. I actually was considering bolting 1958 Edsel front sheet metal and station wagon tail lights to make it an Edsel. That is till I saw one done. Looked horrible.
I really can't see an Edsel variant being a "hot seller." Ford Ranchero sales numbers were steady but low. Averaging about 20,000 per year. A very small percentage of total Ford production. www.ranchero.us/forum/index.php?threads/ranchero-production-numbers.18449/#:~:text=Ranchero%20Production%20Numbers%201%201957%20-%20Ranchero%202,1962%20-%20Ranchero%20-%2020%2C842%20More%20items...%20
At the start of the 57 model year the marketing team at Fords was some what questionable and that would have been one of the downfalls and 57-58 were recession years and was a hit all things considered it lasted for almost 20 years was not a bad thing
As far as looks go, they could have made the styling a little more conservative, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To each his own. Edsels forever.