Unpopular Opinions 4 - SimplyPodLogical
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On this episode of SimplyPodLogical, Cristine and Ben react to unpopular opinions on soup, the death penalty, bbq chicken pizza, Taylor Swift, graveyards, and hating children.
0:00 - Hey what’s up holo everyone
1:24 - Using the thumbs up emoji is passive aggressive 👍
6:21 - Soup is not a meal
8:35 - Graveyards are a waste of space
12:35 - Taylor Swift doesn't care about her fans (and the Ticketmaster debacle)
21:35 - People should eat lasagna for Thanksgiving
27:17 - Black Friday was made up by big companies
39:20 - BBQ chicken pizza is a crime against pizza
41:58 - Kids are overhated
49:21 - What’s worse? Life in prison or the death penalty?
58:44 - Men shouldn't be allowed to show their nipples in public
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When Ben said “turkey should be replaced by lasagna” I thought he was talking about the country lol
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@@nisayildiz1925 👍 (as in “i agree, let’s not”)
lol this reminds me of when Cristine confused polish (as in nail polish) with Polish (as in the nationality)
still valid
Sameee
Ben's description of not feeling that warm, fuzzy feeling people seem to feel when around kids is so fucking relatable. There are so many people in my life who think that even the sight of a child should immediately fill me with joy, but for the most part I just don't care. I will absolutely be nice to kids if they interact with me because they're just little humans and it's not their fault they are the way they are, but I hate the expectation that everyone should clutch their chest and fawn over every child they see.
I just don't understand the duality of the matter. I like kids, I generally think they are cute and I like interacting with them. I also don't want kids of my own and I'd rather not be near them when they cry or they just pooped their diapers. And I don't have to, it's not my responsability and honestly the parents I have met generally understand that
I am on the team that does not like children in general and babies are not cute. But I also always knew that I wanted kids of my own, and I absolutely love my 1,5 year old.
And lots of people expected me to fundamentally change when I became a mum. But surprise, I am still me. Love my own kid but would rather keep lots of personal space between myself and all other children.
Yes, thank you!! Like I’m sorry but I genuinely don’t give a flying crap about your child. Every time I say I don’t want children, they’ll tell me that I’m just saying that now and that I’ll change my mind later. They just don’t believe me. Can’t wait to prove them wrong.
Even videos sometimes fill me with joy, teens will sometimes make my heart mealt (I work with them) and make me look forward until my kids are that age. I imagine if you don't have that, I can for sure understand why you wouldn't want kids as they are a lot of work and commitment
Yes! I'm in the same boat of not wanting kids or having any fuzzy feelings around them. For me, I think the problem is not so much the kids (they're smart enough to know when to leave someone alone) but other people. Not everyone wants to be a firefighter, a chef, or a entrepreneur. The same goes for being a parent, and a lot of older adults (mostly gen x) like to give people shit about that. I've gotten so jaded about the topic over time because of the amount of people that give me a fake smile and say, "Oh, you'll change your mind". What's more is that, because I'm a young women, people tend to completely dismiss what I have to say either due to my age or because they equate womanhood to being a mom.
Edit: Also, I do acknowledge that there are people out there who take the extra step of hating kids and getting really defensive about it. There's people who don't want kids, and then there's people who don't want kids but are very rude and in your face about it. There's work to be done on both sides; Nurturing parental people can learn to be more respectful and open minded to childfree folks, and people like myself can learn to not drag down others because they chose to have kids. Food for thought on both sides of the subject.
The «resell is allowed, but only to the same price or less then what you bought it for” is a literal law in Norway! And I love that! 👏🏻
Cool! America is full of monopolies that run our government through lobbyists. I hate it here, and often feel my life is being threatened because I am autistic and queer. I wish I wasn’t born into poverty so I could leave
@@whatsupimlouie4670 that sounds really hard :( I wish you all the best!
I've heard of places in the UK doing th same thing, but I don't know if it's the law.
Apparently I have an unpopular opinion because I'm with Cristine on the bringing food to a hosted dinner. Every time I am invited to someone else's home, I either ask if I can bring something (and have them suggest what to bring) or I ask if I could bring a specific food item. It's less work for the host and, like Cristine said, as long as it is being shared, it is more options. I would never be upset with someone if they wanted to bring a dish to my hosted dinner. The more food, the merrier. 😂
Asking to bring a side/app/dessert or asking "what can I bring?" is one thing, offering to bring a dish that's normally considered a main course is different.
And isn't it just polite? Whenever I go eat at someones home I always bring a dessert
Bringing something is polite - bringing an alternative main dish is impolite (unless asked to do so by the host)
I think Ben has the unpopular opinion here. Mpre food is always welcome
I honestly don't get the logic behind it being rude unless the host has some childish mindset of "no I want everyone to eat MY food what if people like the other one better." It just sounds like you're trying to show off to me. I'd always welcome more food. If I'm hosting I want everyone to enjoy what their eating no matter who cooked it. More options is more chances to make people happy.
To push back on the graveyard opinion, my local cemetery isn't just used as a place to bury the dead, it's also a wildlife sanctuary. There's peacocks and squirrels and deer that wouldn't have anywhere else to live in our mostly urbanized city. There's also a community garden. I don't have any family members or loved ones buried there but I love to go and just enjoy the nature.
That’s AWESOME! When I die, I want to be a tree my family and animals can enjoy, don’t know the specifics of how that could happen, but your comment kinda pictures what I idealize in my mind 😊
That is a phenomenal idea! I'd love to see that in more areas.
I'll add to that, cremation is actually not environmentally friendly at all. It's fuel intensive and produces a lot of carbon emissions. There are more environmentally friendly options. In addition, a large graveyard in a city can also act as a green space for living folks to use.
That is totally awesome. It's a shame it's not as widespread (I mean when I read it my brain went 🤯, so I'm not that surprised not many people thought about this and made it happen)
Wow I love that idea!!
I live and grew up in Ontario. My dad needed a liver transplant, which he received 14 years ago. Since then he has attended my graduation, walked me down the aisle at my wedding, and met my son (his first grand baby) earlier this year. I am thankful every single day to his donor. Thanks Cristine for raising awareness. In addition to registering as an organ donor make sure your loved ones are aware of your decision.
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*inhale* heywhatsupeveryonewelcometosimplypodlogicalasimplynailogicalpodcast
Hey cheater
@@alenunya Holo everyone! It's me Cristine (or Menchie) again! 😂❤
I found Beeeyyyn being cheeky with Cristine towards the end while she pretends not to notice disproportionately entertaining... from the men's nipples being seggsually touched being shut down to the "maybe we should check" comment being swiftly moved on 😅😅😅. It's akin to when Ben spills tea and simply tries to reign him in. We love an unrestrained and unfiltered Ben balanced with a very thoughtful and deliberate Simply 💜
Honestly!! My favorite thing of this podcast is Ben being ‘inappropriate’ and Cristine pretending is nothing 🤣 🤣 🤣
Just listened to this episode and came straight to the comments to make sure someone mentioned how hilarious Ben was in turn making it also hilarious at how good Cristine is at moving along! 🤣 Such a good laugh!
About the children conversation: just yesterday I told my mom’s friend (I’m 23 btw) that I couldn’t ever have a child bc I don’t like the feeling of giving away my life to raise someone else in a world I don’t like (and many other reasons I won’t get into) and she told me “imagine everyone had the same opinion as you, there wouldn’t be any people left!” And I was like, yeah, that’s not the case obviously and I wouldn’t see it as a problem either, if nobody wants to have children then, let it be? Making it an obligation to keep alive the human race won’t make me suddenly want children
I think it's super common for people to bring things that could normally be considered a full meal as a thanksgiving "side dish" as a midwesterner, casseroles are a common side but are also considered a meal any other time. I'm bringing a whole baked Mac and cheese to Thanksgiving, which I would normally eat as a meal. Also, I've definitely seen people make lasagna as a dish for Thanksgiving. It's not the most traditional, but I've seen it.
I bring a baked mac & cheese to Southern Thanksgivings all the time!
Im from the midwest but first generation American in my family, my Jamaican grandma made a lasagna for Thanksgiving one year 😂 my family was confused bc it had random ingredients that you wouldn’t find in a regular lasagna but it was yummy😂
Yeah. We definitely spread out the cooking between different people. For instance this year I’m doing the turkey and stuffing and a couple other dishes, my mom is bringing the desserts and sweet potatoes, and we have a few other people bringing dishes that they want to share. That has been the norm for every holiday we’ve shared.
So long as you ask ahead of time to avoid duplicate food, I think it’s a great idea! When I was a kid, I saw my mom struggle making an entire Thanksgiving dinner by herself. I know she would have been extremely grateful if people had offered to bring different dishes. And in my Middle Eastern culture, it’s actually seen as rude to visit someone without bringing gifts or food, so I’m totally with Cristine on this one.
As a Midwestern, people bring crockpots of food and casseroles. I find it more rude to make the host spend all day in the kitchen making everything for Thanksgiving, when it should be a day about spending time with loved ones.
Regarding people being angry about other people not wanting kids:
I read a brilliant article about it a couple years ago. Studies have found that "society" gets so angry at people not wanting children because most people have had it taught to them as a social norm. They have complied or plan to comply with the norm and a lot of them aren't completely happy with it. If someone elects not to comply with that norm, they're actually (like measurably inside the brain) seen as an enemy
I've been a Swiftie since Debut album and to say that she drags her fans along is hilarious to me. There is a large portion of her fans who LOVE all the easter eggs and codes and clues, we live off that shit. I can see from an outside perspective that it might look like she's dramatic and stringing her fans along, but that's not the case. I'm sure there are fans who don't like the games, but I'd say the majority of Swifties get really into it.
And the ones who don't like the puzzles just skip that aspect, like any game it's not a big deal of you choose not to play
I use thumbs up as a "got it, boss" for everything. With my friends, with my coworkers, with my parents. I don't love this whole "this is what it means on the surface but actually we've arbitrarily decided that it means something else."
Agree!! A thumbs up should simply mean a thumbs up. I can't keep up with the underlying meanings for things anymore. I never remember being younger and thinking about changing the meaning of things
Same, I've always used the thimbs up emoji as 'ok' or 'will do'.
Our aunt’s gravy is always so gross and watery. She hasn’t noticed my sister and I bringing our own gravy for the past 5 years. We call it purse gravy
Hahahahaa, that's just genius 😂 😂 😂
I'd be happy if someone brings a main dish at my dinner party if they tell me beforehand.. I mean, i won't have to cook one dish, less work!😂
In Belgium the organ donor thing is an "opt out" kind of thing. So you have to actively go to Town/City hall to opt out of it.
I'm 29 and I don't think a thumbs up is passive aggressive in most contexts where I've seen it/used it. Like Ben said, it's usually just an easy way to say "Yep, I agree" or "That works for me". I think there has to be a balance of being thoughtful about responses, but also challenging ourselves to not read into things too much (and I say this as a sensitive person who reads into things and is trying to be better). Sometimes a thumbs up is just a thumbs up!
I use the thumbs up instead of saying 10-4 or understood etc. If more context is needed then i will give a more thoughtful response but sometimes people are giving updates that don't really need a response but they do need to know you have read the update.
Edit: I’m 27 if it matters
I'm 23 and thumbs up comes across pretty rude to me haha
26 and I don't like the thumbs up I think it's rude but understand people use it for understood.
@@daybreakdragon Exactly. I'm not a fan of the whole "young people are too sensitive these days" mindset overall, but I've also spent too much time in my life overthinking simple text messages and/or thinking people are mad at me for no reason, haha.
I'm 23 and i've never thought of 👍 as rude, i just see it as a thumbs up
I love how there's a "hey cheater" reference in every recent episode
What is it in reference to?
@@meme9272 its in ep #128.. Where they talk about the movie Dont Worry Darling.. Its the very first thing they talk about.
Ticketmaster/Live Nation has always been a huge issue for many artists and several fandoms have tried bringing the issue to light. If they are finally getting the spotlight because of the Taylor Swift situation, whether people like her or not, we should take full advantage in order to try and break up the monopoly.
yeah exactly, it's not Taylor fault, BTS fans also have this same problem when trying to get tickets for LA concert last year when they performed at Sofi stadium. Map of the souls 2020 tickets holders get the first access for their codes to buy for the newer tickets, but ticketmaster only gave a few tickets on that day, and saved the rest for general sale. Everyone that have early access code got pissed from it got screwed over.
@@traceyxxo_ Me reading this as an Army who had to deal with this ticketmaster bs for years 🥲
Aha I see a fellow ARMY from this comment 😂😂. We've been struggling, I agree with everything you've said here.
As a kpop stan, honestly I'd LOVE to team up with the swifties if it means fixing the ticketmaster problem. We're ALL unhappy with them.
Just to add, it's not just in the US. Live Nation has subsidiaries in many countries now from buying out or merging with existing ones (and I assume the contract is that they handle every leg of an international tour) and is absolute garbage at handling everything.
"I'm praying you don't fuck up 🙏" - I love that meaning hahahah
Cristine and Ben, regarding the cemetery question, me, as a deathling holofan, I reccomend the channel Ask a Mortician. Caitlin, the channel's host, has a funeral home and really dives (six-feet) deep on more eco friendly ways to deal with our dead bodies. For me, recomposition is what I want (basically turning my body into compost), but other options include a green burial (my second choice) or aquamation (water cremation, which dissolves de body and leaves ashes in a similar way to cremation). I know this is a touchy and sensible subject, but I couldn't reccomend Caitlin's channel highly enough. She is a really sensible, responsible, heartwarming and good humored woman, and her channel (and death positivity as a whole) deserves more credit.
Gotta agree! I love Ask a Mortician's channel! Very educational. I'm an organ donor myself, and how Cris describes, it workes like that here in the US
Me too! I'm praying Australia approves recomposition before I die so I can do that. If not I think Ill go with aquamation.
Also she would be a great guest for the simplypod. So much data! So many debates!
I think the most frustrating this with Ticketmaster and Taylor's tickets is that people who had tickets to her LoverFest shows were told that we would have priority access to the eras tour tickets. I know so many people, myself included, who had over 20,000+ in front of them on Tuesdays presale and did not get tickets. I'm sad I can't go to this when I was supposed to see here in 2020, but couldn't cause of COVID. Resale tickets are just wayyyyyyy out of my price range.
People who bought tickets to loverfest through verified fan presale during that time were "guaranteed" priority access. I totally get that isn't what happened for most, but it was a more narrow group than people are saying. Things were just very unclear :/
Same thing happened with the arctic monkeys US tour, 1 hour after the sale started all I could find were resale prices and it went from 79 at GA to 260 bucks outrageous
This isn't a ticketmaster issue. Taylor Swift is paying the price for trying to be this massive artist attempting to surpass Michael Jackson (which she won't) and allowing her fandom to become a massive hoard of foaming out the mouth gangs who want to go all at once. Beyonce doesn't even have this going on. If Taylor promoted like everyone else this wouldn't be happening.
So I'm sorry but Taylor allowed this through how she chose to set her promotion cycle and model for her music especially these surprise drops. Beyonce may come close to experience this when Renaissance and she'll be to blame too cause honestly her and Taylor have similar ways of promoting. I never heard of any of this angry mob stuff of not getting tickets when Michael Jackson did the bad tour. The redditor was right about her. Her method of bread crumbling her fans to emotionally starve them is how she gets the overhyped reaction and sellouts
@@60wwediva someone's jealous 😂
John Oliver / Last week tonight did a great episode on ticketmaster / ticket sellers. As a French person I was so surprised to hear about how it works in the US, because in the EU there is much more customer protection (how surprising 😅) so it’s illegal to resell tickets for a profit, so what Ben described, only allowing that tickets be resold at the same price, is actually our norm !
I love how after 10+ years together Ben still finds ways to flirt with Cristine 😂
The ending 😂 “we might have to check” he’s so real I love it lmao
If anyone is curious I googled the history of Black Friday in the United States! It all started because of the famous annual Thanksgiving Day Parade. The last float of the parade is always Santa Clause who declares the official start to the Christmas season. In the 50s and 60s companies used this as an opportunity to advertise on television their products for the holiday season and would encourage starting the shopping with a discount for the beginning g of the season. It became known as Black Friday because over time people would swarm to get their holiday shopping early and looking for deals, leading to chaos, particularly in the city of Philadelphia where the name was coined. This discounts and the chaos just got crazier over time.
That's so interresting, thank you for sharing!
I always heard it was Black Friday because it’s when the businesses go from operating “in the red” to “in the black,” meaning they’re finally turning a profit
@@neitan6891 that’s what I also heard
I feel like an outlier because I almost exclusively only shop during Black Friday/Cyber Monday for the entire year lol and Old Navy for example did have 50% off everything which is why I only shop at Old Navy during the sales
In Australia Black Friday generally refers to a really bad bushfire day that happened a few years ago so when the sale version first started becoming a thing here we were all a little confused about why a really bad day in recent history had become a day for sales until we realised it was an American thing. Now it's more common place. Similar to what Cristine and Ben described, it used to be Boxing Day that was the big one.
Personally, I would rather have someone come to my party and bring their own food than not come because they don't like what I'm cooking. Everyone has their own food preferences, I don't think it's a big deal if they don't want to eat something. We extend that courtesy to people who have dietary restrictions, I don't see why we can't do the same if someone simply doesn't like a certain food (especially because there could be a variety of reasons why someone doesn't like a food, but I think people should be allowed to say they simply don't like something and it shouldn't be a big deal)
I mean the whole myth of Thanksgiving involves different cultures bringing food to share!! The lore is that it's a potluck! I say bring any food to Thanksgiving to share the load of feeding the family, whether that be main dishes, sides, or drinks
I agree only if everyone decided on that within the group. But if I spend all day cooking and you show up with a different main dish, I'd be offended. I like cooking big meals and seeing the responses to the food though. But if we all decided to make it a potluck every year then that's amazing!
Beyyyn “we might have to check” at the end made me laugh so hard 🤣
I worked for a family run retail store for about a year. The boss didn't "believe" in doing boxing day or black Friday deals. Because his philosophy was to always "keep prices as fair as possible all year round" which I really respected. It also allowed us to have boxing day off 🥳
I love soup! It’s definitely a meal, and not a drink (as some people will also argue)
Talking about the ticket debacle: I live in South Korea and the ticketing system here is completely different. Artists here have official "fanclubs" that you have to be part of in order to do presale tickets, and a lot of scalpers don't bother with buying the fanclub membership unless it's a huge group they know they can make that money back on. But even then, many of the sites limit tickets to 1 or 2 tickets per person so scalpers can't buy up a ton of them at once, and sometimes you even have to go through an ID check in order to be let in, so if the name on your ticket doesn't match your ID you'll be turned away which makes buying from a scalper basically impossible. It's not a perfect system by any means, but when I see the issues going on with American ticketing with surge pricing, the insane "processing fees," and the fact that half the tickets are bought and resold at double the cost by scalpers, Korean ticketing feels like a godsend.
“So I shouldn’t livestream…” 💀 I’m dead from laughing 😂😂😂 that was such a great response to Simply
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Lol the passive aggressiveness of emojis is hilarious. I'm 27 and I use the thumbs up all the time at work, it's a quick acknowledgement that I got the message. My coworkers will also use hearts, but only if someone has some great news that they're sharing in the team chat like " thanks for your work" or "I love that X thing is happening". Never in private, though.
I think the thumbs up is good when you're not expected to give a meaningful response like ben said, but that also can make it feel passive aggressive if you did actually expect more of a response
Ask for clarification don't assume intent 🤷♀️
Part of the issue I think with Taylor Swift and Ticketmaster was the website crashing, and Ticketmaster claiming they weren’t prepared for the traffic when they knew exactly how many codes went out. Additionally other artist have been known to cancel tickets of people who immediately go to resale their tickets for huge markups (think those people listing tickets for 20k etc).
Kinda similar but my mom tasked me with making the green bean casserole. My cousin just married and his wife is vegan (I love making vegan meals) so I told my mom that I would make it vegan so his wife could be included! She made a slight face and said that maybe I could bring a small one for her because people want the normal one….basically a response that “oh it’s vegan? Disgusting I don’t want it.” I’m still bringing the vegan one because I don’t think anyone will actually notice and I would love people doing that for me if I was fully vegan (but not expect it).
That’s very kind of you, I’m sure your cousin’s wife will appreciate it! And yeah, I’ve veganized all my family’s Thanksgiving casseroles before and everyone told me they couldn’t tell the difference. I bet your casserole will turn out amazing :)
I think that is sooo sweet of you and his wife will definitely appreciate the fact that there’s someone and something she can eat! 💜💜
Edit: someone that cares and something she can eat not someone to eat omggg 🤣🤣🤣💀
It's GREEN BEANS 😂 usually inst that like, green beans, mushrooms(creamed sometimes?) And friend onions? There is more too it(I've not made it myself as I prefer just skillet green beans) but isn't it usually vegan??? Or close to it, with easy substitutions?? I'm confused 😂😅
@@sarah.weaver no seriously it’s so close to being vegan 😭 if your making it from scratch you basically just use plant based milk when making the sauce and vegan sour cream if you want to add it.
We have Christmas with our best friends who are vegan, and they make green bean casserole. Now I have never had a non-vegan version (we live in Norway, so it’s not really a thing here, but one of the besties is American), but the vegan one they made is amazing! They use nutritional yeast to make it sooo creamy.
Go you Jigglywood 🧡
My family has started having multiple main dishes at big dinners, like we have both a ham and a turkey. Having multiple main courses isn't weird unless it was specifically to spite the person making the main dinner lol
i'm 21 and i see nothing wrong with a thumbs up, i'd be more thrown off by a 👌
As an older person, could you pls tell me why? I use 👌 when i want to say something is perfect 😭
@@MouseGeist Gen z finds so many emojis passive aggressive it’s like they only like 💀
Both are fine. Unless the person has done something else to indicate they're being passive aggressive they're just ways to say good/okay.
@@Onemoremochalatteplease the "ok" symbol or 👌 is commonly used by rightwing or otherwise nazi-affiliated folks, it's definitely not something everyone would know nor is it inherently indicative of your ideological affiliation but it's a fairly common dogwhistle and can be a little off-putting to those who are aware of its common affiliation. (edited to add, clicked send too soon lol) it's also a fairly commonly used passive aggressive/dismissive emoji
I do not want to be burried, but don’t think graveyards are a waste of space because cities need some green and quiet space and parks are not enough in my opinion.
I would never be upset by someone’s choice of what to bring to my dinner party I would just be happy that they cared enough to show up 😅
I would be fine if someone brought a main dish to my dinner! More options for people to try. Plus when they leave they are probably gonna leave the food they brought. So more leftovers for me 😍
Maybe unpopular opinion but if I bring food in anything other than foil, you better believe that I am bringing it back with me. I cherish my Tupperware & Pyrex.
@@momahl114 You should ask for your Tupperware back and leave the food. You’re basically taking back a gift - rude
I hope that it's not just a handful of people cause I basically thought the same thing earlier this week! There was another sexism story about girls being told they were distracting and I thought that guys could be "distracting" as well depending what they are wearing so that if men needed women to cover up to not distract them, they should cover themselves up too lol.
The ending of the video was supreme 😂 thank you for another wonderful podcast!
scrolled down to see this comment, their banter between each other is so funny to watch
Knew you were a millennial from the 😂 emoji
Yeah, it got kind of saucy. I love to see them flirt, they are so cute ☺️🤗
@@user-fl6ti3ph4t oh most definitely, born in ‘93! 🥳
I would be happy someone brought more food! Thanksgiving is a feast! In my family everybody brings something. There is normally a coordination of what though just so there aren't doubles of things.
i’ve really grown to love this podcast. just feels like sitting around with friends. thank you for the good discussion and laughs every week
"I'm praying you don't fuck up" just made me cackle LMAO
My boyfriend isn’t a fan of most thanksgiving sides. He would be so excited if someone brought lasagna to share. I see no problem with a lasagna being brought to thanksgiving dinner lol.
Soup is one of my favorite meals. It’s yummy, filling, and healthy (most of the time). Obviously you need to make sure you’re eating enough for it to be a satisfying meal.
Yes, I'm also an organ donor. Here in the states, on your license, it says if you're a donor and you do have to renew it every time you renew your license. I've always been a donor, especially as a scientist. Everything Cris said about that was spot on. I don't need my organs, might as well help other people ya know?
my perspective of the graveyard thing is this: sure, graveyards could be used for more “useful” things. but we already have knock too many natural things down for the sake of building over it, if some dead people are preventing some oak trees from being chopped down then so be it. i agree that we should think more about more eco friendly things to do with our bodies going forward though
I live in Finland and even here in the last few years black friday has gotten very big and this year it's seems bigger than ever and is in almost every store. Also a lot of stores advertise black week that lasts for 1-2 weeks.
That's so crazy. I'm in the US and have never been out for Black Friday. It spreads like a disease! Lol
Yeah, I'm in Sweden, and it's the same here. It has just kept growing since 2015-ish. It's pretty wild. And although I rather detest the consumption frenzy surrounding this week, I do appreciate that a lot of people who are less affluent have the opportunity to get things that they need at a better price.
I live in Estonia, it has been growing here as well although the sales prices here in most stores are ridiculous compared to the sales in other countries. Also very common thing that I have noticed that the businesses do, is they crank up the prices beforehand and then do the sale so you're still basically buying the things at their regular prices. It just seems mean and misleading to the consumers. That's why I usually steer clear from all of this shopping madness in November.
It is funny since we don't even celebrate thanks giving (naturally). It's pretty odd to see all the black week etc. ads every where. Guess it's good for business!
@@acraia7256 what better way to show your love and gratitude for someone than to buy them something that will break in ninety days or less? ☺️🙄😮💨
The ticketing thing is just so different to how it works in Japan!! For many artists(jpop/kpop not sure about western artists) have a fanclub and you enroll in that with an annual fee(~50$). The ticketing first opens to FC, all the tickets are of the same price(~100$) and seats are assigned randomly. The tickets are also allocated via lottery if number of people wanting to go is greater than size of the venue. I personally like it a lot as one does not have to worry about price and has chance to see artists closer too even with the same amount of money.
America needs to adopt this structure and manage tickets this way but at the same time America has a double edged sword with freedom. We have too much freedom here so by default you have the freedom to be a casual fan or a Stan. Fanclubs are not a business here and it's made up by the public aka the young fans themselves. A label doesn't create a singular fan club here for everyone to sign up for. It would be interesting to see how that would be. That's why I don't feel sorry for her for this reason cause there are other ways to do it.
On the lasagna topic, it's actually common for Italian-American families to have lasagna or stuffed shells for Thanksgiving. In my family everybody brings a dish to pass like a potluck instead of putting all the pressure on one person to make the whole dinner. My sister in law doesn't eat turkey so we do ham and more recently we've been adding prime rib to the menu.
The intention of bringing food to a dinner is the key. If the person has pure intentions of bringing more food and side dishes or a dessert is amazing. But if the person wants to compete or diss other food on the table, "steal the spotlight of the host" its not something I would take positively.
Yup, that was my feeling about the situation, too.
the way that person compared an artist doing something fun that the fans enjoy to a toxic romantic partner lying to you and stuff is so funny to me like that had to be a joke lmao
If it’s not a joke then I’d go as far to say that it’s slightly offensive towards actual victims of a toxic romantic partner. Definitely hope it’s a joke because it’s such an odd comparison lmao
@@yourlittlevenicebtch4258 exactly 😬
@@yourlittlevenicebtch4258 I imagine that the person is potentially really anxious or just has an instant gratification personality. I hope they understand it’s a minority viewpoint though lol I love spoilers & prefer not to have the anticipation so I understand her viewpoint but it’s not “toxic” to create art that leaves the audience guessing.
@@yourlittlevenicebtch4258 to me it’s very annoying, but not toxic lol
@@stiletteleray1326 I think you misunderstood my comment. I wasn’t talking about whenever Taylor should be compared to it or not and what she is or what she isn’t (frankly I know pretty much nothing about her or her fans nor do I care) but rather that the comparison is shitty. Even if Taylor was doing something wrong then comparing her actions to a toxic romantic partner is just offensive towards people who have been with actual toxic romantic partners.
Info for Ben (and live music fans in the comments): merch is actually the most direct way to support touring musicians. The venues ding the artists least on merch. A lot of times, bands will make more on merch than they do from ticket sales to a show. Ditto Spotify listens…pays peanuts. So snap up that merch, kiddos, if you want to support your favorite musicians!!! ❤️
We do a themed thanksgiving every year and it’s never traditional. We invite people and warn them of the years theme. We always have a full house! this year the theme is pie. Sweet and savory. I can’t wait! Edit: I would welcome more dishes that fit the theme! That would be amazing! But usually it’s just me.
In Norway it's illegal to resell tickets with a profit! They must be resold for retail price or lower (and we dont have surge pricing)
I think it's pretty normal to bring food to a thanksgiving dinner? (especially if you run it by the host first)
I can't believe that you guys are going to that concert. I would have never guessed Cristine would see a concert nowadays, let alone a T Swift concert. Mind blown! 😮🤯
Dude, Taylor Swift is basically a white people magnet, how are you shocked? 😅🤣
I love it when Ben tries to flirt with her, and then she just gets all uncomfortable lol like christine come on! That’s your mans!! I love the little tiny bit of times we do get to see them be affectionate 🫶🥰
LOL I do too! I know she's said in the past that she doesn't like shoving her relationship in other people's face but that doesn't mean a person needs to act like a monk. Seeing people in a healthy relationship being genuinely affectionate is a good thing.
Well, I have social anxiety and don't like being affectionate in front of people. Or cameras. So I totally get being reserved in front of a camera.
I cooked the big Thanksgiving meal exactly once and I won't do it on my own ever again, lol. Now I tell people, "I'll cook the turkey and make the stuffing, but I would like you to bring a side of some kind if you can, please" and that way everyone brings something for the table and we all get to enjoy it 🙂
As for Black Friday - it was started by stores that were in "the red", in an attempt to get "back to black" in their financial ledgers before year-end. Nowadays, though, these huge corporations that are having the big Black Friday sales are usually just buying cheaply manufactured products, raising the prices in the weeks prior, and then simply putting them 'on sale' at their normal price, on Black Friday. I don't bother participating in many sales because the discount is so often manufactured, but I definitely benefited from the HT Black Friday sale, which I really appreciate, though I'd have put in the same order regardless. Holo Taco is more than worth paying full price for!
I'm with Cristine on the thanksgiving dinner discusion.
I don’t think I’ve been this early to a pod before! In case you guys see this, I just wanted to say thank you for being voices of reason an increasingly confusing world. Love the pod ☺️
on the lasagna for thanksgiving, i support it! My family makes lasagna for Christmas day dinner every year and make the noodles and sauce ourselves. it's one of my favorite traditions and it's always delicious. i enjoy "traditional" thanksgiving foods, but to me it's much better than just doing basically the same meal you just had at thanksgiving again a month later, plus making the noodles is very interactive and can be fun to participate in as a family.
Seriously, some of my absolute favorite discussions on the internet about so many random topics! Y'all are so great about trying to be logical or at least acknowledging various biases while also being so funny, it's just refreshing :) Can't believe it's already been 130 episodes and I hope for at least 130 more :) Thankful for you both (not to mention the fact I am a proud owner of every HT collection box and launch and product (besides 1 of the base coats... HAHA))
I think the thumbs up thing is about the context.
My sister lived far away to study animation and wouldn't see us that often.
Once in a while she would send us her work on our familygroup chat. And even though my parent would say stuff out loud like "oh that's amazing" and "wow she made this?", they would only answer her with a 👍
My mom didn't understand that my sister would love to know what she meant by the thumbs up.
I had to tell my sister about my parents comments about her work, so that she wouldn't feel sad about it.
Ticket prices - Heard about surge pricing for airlines. Didn't know that Ticketmaster did that. Can't stand that re-sellers can charge what they do. Last concert I got tickets for a normal $80 ticket was going for $400. Made sure my girls joined fanclubs before buying their next tickets so they could buy before the general public and get the tickets at normal prices. I also know that one of our local music venues has mentioned that Live Nation is trying to control them and they don't want it. Thanksgiving - people ask all the time if they could bring a dish. That's ok by me, less to cook. The ending of this episode is too funny!!
Was worried there wasn’t gonna be an episode today lol. Thanks for saving me from work for a little while
Love how this podcast is just a part of my daily Tuesday schedule :)
10:53 as someone who urgently had to have a liver transplant two months ago, this section on organ donation is so heart warming to me. i really appreciate it and it's so nice to see more people talk about it, it's so incredibly important and literally saved my life ❤
I have been procrastinating all morning waiting for 11 o’clock to show up so I can start doing my chores because I cannot listen to anything that is not your podcast and I’ve already binged all the podcasts &! I’m about to go for a second round but I NEEDED this along with my Matcha latte thank you!!
Also procrastinating chores cause I’m freezing and I don’t want to adult today 🤣
That sound good
I think that a point missed with the discussion on kids was that the commentor was talking about judging children for not knowing things or being immature. I think if you're hating children because they like don't know things is very different than not wanting to raise or be around them. I think you can still respect that children are learning many things in life and they do end up being adults eventually, but like hating children for being dumb is hard for me to understand, obviously they're dumb they haven't learned anything.
Disclaimer: I have no children. I have babysat/ have younger cousins. One day I would like to start a family because I want to.
i think this is the first time i’ve been THIS early to a podcast, happy it’s a reddit based video i love these, been a fan since before polish mountain era 🥰🎄
man i really needed this to cheer me up rn ngl
To add to the emoji conversation, my older coworker loves the 🙂 emoji. But, I think it looks so soulless compared to emojis like 😊 and makes me think she is pretending to be happy.
I know that probably isn't true, but it is how I feel every time I see it 😅
donating one’s body to science sounds good in theory, but I’ve heard so many horror stories where bodies ended up in bomb tests for the army or those weird museums where they display dead bodies
@@MouseGeist i guess if you sign off on uses of the body like that then it’s okay, but the problem is that many people aren’t aware that „donating to science“ doesn’t necessarily mean that e.g. med students learn about the body thanks to your donating, but could also mean the army is using you as literal canon fodder
You can specify what can be done with your remains in your will.
@@mrsclark78 of course you can, if you are aware of it. there are docs about it, where people are being misled with the „donation for science“ part and everything else is swept under the rug, only for them to learn later that their beloved grandma got blown up in a missile test
The 🙏 emoji can mean a variety of things depending on your own perception, and the culture you're from.
I've seen this emoji being used to mean praying, begging (please), wishing, asking for forgiveness, plus someone once suggested to me that the emoji is a high five between two people.
Missed opportunity to talk about Seinfeld reference with the soup opinion lol
LOL not the bentendo hummus 😂
We need a final rating for that one on the excel sheet 🫡
Aww I hope menchie is feeling better 🫶
A lot of people have been screaming about the monopoly that is Ticketmaster for years. The TM/LiveNation merger never should have happened. And one of the many problems with Ticketmaster is, they hire scalpers to buy up tickets so they can resell them at exorbitant rates. So yes, TM has the "verified fan" process, but they also have the ability to bypass that so their own scalpers can get tickets. They also do "official platinum" tickets, which is just more bs ways for them to jack up ticket prices. They have a lot of shady business practices.
Black Friday etc. came to Finland properly about 5 years ago. Now every single company has them. I remember being really pissed off about this insane American consumerism habit landing in Europe.
I think bringing an extra meal is pretty cool. More food more happiness :)
I grew up having to bring my own meal to thanksgiving because of my eating disorder (ARFID). Even when people knew my options were being my own food or not eat at all, they still always seem offended. I personally wouldn’t be offended, but it seems pretty common.
I agree with the poster for the children one. There are people (usually teenagers or people in their early 20s) who never want to see a child in a public place and will go so far as to purposely talk about inappropriate things, curse, or say something like “Santa isn’t real” just to terrorize the kid and make the parent take the kid out of their sight. I get not liking kids and/or not wanting kids… but there is a level of entitlement in people that will say bad things to get children away from them in public, where the adult and child have an equal right to be there… that’s where kids are “overhated”
bringing a dish to someone’s hosted thanksgiving is very normal to me! my family always brings a handful of side dishes to my aunt’s place :) everyone should contribute!
I feel like graveyards should be more like parks that you can actually spend time in
I hate using ticketmaster, it’s all fees, like there have been times the fees from ticketmaster are more than the actual ticket. And they let so many scalpers and third parties buy tickets and then sell them for outrageous prices and ticketmaster just lets it slide because they just collect on fees again when the ticket gets resold. Also getting refunds from them are like pulling teeth.
just wanted to say I loved this episode!! so refreshing
Fun fact! In Argentina everyone over the age of 18 is considered an organ donor if they die, unless they explicitly manifest they are against it before passing.
The children thing is worse for women who don’t want kids especially early 30s. Super annoying being questioned so often.
It baffles me that anyone but my mother or grandmother would have the audacity to ask me about when or if I'm intending to conceive children and push them out of my body. They have/had vested interest in having a grandbaby so I'm ok with them asking (though my nan was quite adamant).
I wouldn't mind if someone brought a lasagna to Thanksgiving. It's the spirit of sharing!
Omg the last minute was so wholesome and hilarious 😂 ❤
Barbeque chicken pizza slaps
Agreed. And barbecue sauce has tomato in it, so it still qualifies as a type of pizza sauce =)
I totally get the graveyard one, but from the perspective of a landscape architect student I would argue that it has it's pro's. In Europe at least graveyards have a lot of plans and offer a green area which is both good for everyone living there, but also good for the environment :D
then maybe a park where people dont have to be careful where they step is better
@@nil3552 sure, that would be good too, but when it comes to the argument that a graveyard is a waste of space I feel like that's not quite justified :3
We have had this conversation about tketmaster(TM) in 2020 when BTS were having their concerts too. BTS had also not used dynamic pricing and to ensure that fans got to buy their tickets they made 2 presales. First presale was for verified fans (subscribed to their fan club) who got a code, and the second presale the day after was for the rest of the verified fans that didn't get a code. the day after both presales was the general public sales. Mind you previously there had been like 300k people in queue for 60k stadiums in every country so they knew there was huge demand. Because TM put every seat up for sale in the PRE-presale, everything was sold out in an hour and not even other verified fans got to buy tickets in the presale. We asked for explanations on how their system works and got no response from anyone. This method was supposed to minimize scalpers but it didn't even help with that and there were still many resellers who sold tickets which had an original price of ~60-500 (max price being gold VIP front row tickets with lounge and soundcheck entrance) for thousands of dollars. I'm glad someone's finally paying attention, even if it stings a bit that we had been ignored years ago.
what taylor could in my opinion have done in this situation is add another night or two because of the high demand. its what bts did for their tours. or something else bts did was rent out an arena nearby to livestream the concert in real time with the pyros and lights and everything. that's a great way to make more people part of the experience, specifically those who couldn't get into the stadium. that would also allow for more people to see her. of course the main thing that needs to change is ticketmasters reign over all these venues and touring companies but if she wants to work around that there are a few options she could try.
Every time I get sick I have to watch this podcast. You always make me feel better. Thx
In all seriousness, the Holo Taco shopping experience is always impeccable. A well deserved Shopify sponsorship!