I thought I would try to answer your question about many people not wanting mutants to be labeled as dangerous in advance because of their abilities, first let me address what mutants reflect in society and it is they who are different in society than what others think it is normal, before people of color were treated differently because of their skin color and were feared and hated by whites because they looked different, then you have homosexuals who were feared by society and some believed that homosexuals were contagious and many in religion considered them to be of the devil offspring to destroy society, another group is persons who are mentally ill and these were locked up because it was the best to keep them away from the general public and they were forcibly sterilized mentally ill even before. All of these that I wrote as examples were previously seen as a threat to society before but as today there are many who do not see them as such just because they are different than what is considered to be the norm in society, so mutants have abilities that make them different , abilities that make many distrust them and make some people think that using violence whether it be physical or psychological is their "right" because they are not like everyone else, so for me it is that everyone should have the same right in society but if you are forced to be registered, you put a target on their backs like the Nazis did in Germany against Jews and that is someone I personally would not want to see.
It was nominated for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars, making it the first and only film in the franchise to be nominated. It made $770 million dollars against a $200 million dollar budget.
The Rogue Cut was an extended edition in that it added back scenes that were shot but not included in the theatrical release. In the theatrical release, all the scenes that had Rogue other then Rogue and Bobby in the altered future did not exist. In the theatrical cut, Kitty Pryde was still injured by Wolverine, but managed to hold out until the timeline changed. The X-Men never went on the mission to the X-Mansion to rescue Rogue (she wasn't even mentioned at all). It was weird in that the production made a big deal of Anna Paquin returning to the role when the movie was in production, but when it came out in theaters she had a three second cameo at the very end.
Fun fact, when Magneto puts the rebar in Wolverine, it mimics the comic when Magneto literally pulled the adamantium out of his body, leaving him vulnerable and stationary. It was pretty brutal in the comic.
Rouge was originally a Beta level mutant (Class 3) cause she had no control over draining the life out of someone. Overtime in later comics she gain control to not hurt anyone upgrading her to Alpha (Class 4).
Rouge powers originally was taking life force and other mutants powers for a set time and didnt have flight or strength until she touched captain marvel and gain her strength and flight and her memories and captain marvel was the only powers that rouge gained that stayed with her and she the reason captain marvel had memory lost and the memories left Rouge with a problem until she met professor X who suppressed the memories, the first captain marvel movie definitely should've had Rouge in it since Rouge was the l reason she lost her memories
Her power levels fluctuate wildly in the comics. She can't absorb the likes of Loki, Silver Surfer and Mephisto but had no issue with Thor and sometimes absorbs a whole team of Avengers and X-men including some very heavy hitters.
IMO, this is peak X-Men. You've got old and young Charles and Erik. You've got Wolverine. What more could you want? And the Sentinels are a classic X-Men enemy. Also, this movie has one of the franchise's unquestioned best scenes ... at least until the next movie. :)
Logan is technically better in every aspect, its deff. better as my personal pick too, but i get someone can enjoy this movie more simply from "fun" Pov - Logan is lot darker and heavier movie.@@jermainehaslam5634
"We can't support a weapon that targets our own citizens. If these mutants as you describe, are already living among us, then they're living here peacefully." - is one of the most based quotes ever.
My only complaint about this movie is that Wolverine looked the best he ever has, in that awesome future suit with the bits of yellow and the streaks of gray in his hair, but we never get to see him fight any sentinels. Had to be, for the plot, but it's such a shame.
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Rogue works in the comics. She is a top class Mutant, the reason she is cut from these films more often than not is because her power is simply too strong to just be around all the time, you'd have to be explaining "why dont we just have rogue steal "X" power and do "Y"
Plus, potentially a visual effects nightmare cost-wise... if you have a couple people with expensive powers (due to CGI or whatever), with Rogue, suddenly it's like you've doubled the onscreen time of those abilities... Either that or Rogue isn't doing anything in the script.
31:42 I love the connection between Rogue and Logan, the way she said his name and he instantly knew it was her. I'm glad they decided to add her. It wouldn't have been the same without her, she was the first movie.
This is the best X-Men movie of the franchise for sure! Especially as this movie came out before we had the multiverse in MCU, so back then this definitely was legendary!
Its sort of ironic that this film touched on the whole 'human' emotion / concept of hope. The original comic series has existed for decades on that same topic. Its still a common theme, especially considering the humane notion for all in the X-verse.
That argument makes sense. The tendency to make selfish choices or misuse dangerous power is shared among humans and mutants. Neither mutants or humans have a monopoly on poor choices. However, you are correct that individual mutants can cause more pain/problems than an individual human. This is why having X-Men as a protection is better than having humans use Sentinels as protection.
I love this film so much. It's not only the best X-Men movie, but I think one of the best comic book films ever. Cannot believe it's already been 10 years since it came out 😩
I haven’t even made it past the intro and I’m already crying 😂 “what are you on about” 🤣🤣 love you guys grabbing a drink and other grown up necessities and just can’t wait to watch 🍿
Hands down the best part of the reaction is when Mrs. October asked about propulsion. When she turns and asks about it, the wonder in her face was amazingly adorable!
Hey Octobers, regarding viewing order, while the film; "Logan" was technically released after "X-MEN: Apocalypse", but before "Dark Phoenix," "New Mutants," and the Deadpools. I, however, recommend saving Logan for dead last. It goes at the end chronologically and is also a satisfying conclusion to the franchise.
@@asiaroberson3442 you are missing my point. I know the release order, but Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, and New Mutants all suck. They also all take place before Logan. My point is that it's a much more satisfying experience to leave the FoX-Men franchise on a high note like Logan, than to see Logan and go back to suffer through the leftovers that FoX squeezed out afterwards.
The biggest difference between theatrical and the Rogue Cut is that Rogue is not a major character in the theatrical version. She only appears as a cameo at the end with the restored future timeline. So, in the theatrical version, there is no option to replace Kitty Pride and no side quest to rescue Rogue. On the one hand, the stakes are a little higher in the theatrical version, but on the other hand, if you like the movie version of Rogue, then the theatrical version cuts her out almost completely.
In case you were wondering, Peter/Quicksilver in this movie is the same character as Wanda's brother Pietro in Avengers: Age Of Ultron. They're just different versions of the same character. In the comics, both Wanda and Pietro Maximoff are mutants who have also been Avengers. Twentieth Century Fox owned the movie rights to the mutants that fall under the X-Men umbrella of characters, including Wanda and Pietro. But the MCU were able to use Wanda and Pietro in their Avengers movies, just as long as they weren't called mutants and never referred to by their mutant names Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
Storm…I was so disappointed at her demise. She is my absolute favourite, the first female heroine/superhero I became obsessed with as a child in the 90’s. My brother would buy me comics every month, which is why I was always so gutted that in this film franchise they passed Storm an “Omega level mutant” off as this beta level deputy principal. Though the Tornado scene in X2 is still my favourite scene of hers from the films. On a side note, the actor Adan Canto, who played Sunspot (Guy engulfed/absorbed in Solar flames) in this film, passed away January this year. I would have loved to had seen more of his character. He and Halle Berry also did another film together called Bruised, it’s definitely worth a watch.
Favorite X movie is Xmen 1. It may not be the best, but it finally made a superhero movie serious and put them in semi believable situations. I was so worried that it would be campy, but it held it's own. Not the best Xmen movie but still my favorite by the way they handled it with real respect to the characters. With that said, they can now get away with giving them comic accurate costumes, which will be awesome and we just saw from the Deadpool 3 trailer that Wolvie finally gets his comic costume. Hallelujah!!
@@PhasersAndArrowslmao Ike was an idiot hack we wouldn’t even have a black panther movie if his racist ass was in charge they got rid of Ike for phase 3 and boom we got the best phase
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I love the way they continue the story from X-Men First Class and the story from the original movies, this movie kind feels like the endgame of the X-Men franchise with the way they show respect to the history of the X-Men films.
17:50 I didn't see Clockstoppers, but I did see Over the Hedge. The squirrel, Manny, who is already hyperactive, downs an energy drink, and something similar happens.
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Sentinels for me was probably the most scariest villains in the X Men series as they have no emotion whatsoever and no self preservation. You can't reason with them or stop them as they can adapt to anything.
I'm pretty certain by this point Logan has all of his memories back. Hinted at i think but definitely shown when he remembered what he was doing pretty confidently at the time he woke up after being sent to the past which was before stryker and losing his memories
Peter Maximoff is Quicksilver here, there was a contractual loophole that allowed the MCU to use Quicksilver as well, but the MCU version is more comic accurate as far as name and accent and everything but the X-Men version portrayed his speed powers a lot better
storm was originally supposed to be the last one to survive the fight in the future timeline but halle berry was pregnant at the time and couldn’t be on wires that much so they cut a good amount of her action scenes
Iceman is one of the few OMEGA mutants in the X-Men franchise. Storm and Jean are also OMEGA. The sum of their power can’t be quantified. It’s almost limitless.
I was 12 when the first X-men came out. At the end Magneto said “there is a war coming” and in that moment all I could think was “ Days of Future Past” comic story. Every since I was hoping for the movie and it took 14 yrs and I was very pleased
I think Trask being shown was meant to show that the Sentinel program will always be built by humanity. They just change when it happens and how it happens, but it always happens, in most universes.
To answer your question about how strong a mutant Rogue is...in the main comic storyline, early on (when she was hanging around with Mystique and less good mutants) there was an occasion when she attacked Carol Danvers (as in Captain Marvel). She absorbed Carol's powers but due to certain complications during the incident....it went wrong and became a permanent absorption. Carol was without powers for a long while. They did eventually return but Rogue also retained the abilities. So for pretty much all of her history in x-men comics Rogue has had the powers of Carol Danvers (and you already know how powerful she is from the MCU).
@@marlonclark-pp9wgno they are not did you actually read the original X-men magneto was literally a generic villain. His background didn’t change until Claremont started writing them.
@@marlonclark-pp9wg Stan Lee never said that shit and he was known to take credit for things. I’ve actually read the comics so you shut your fucking mouth. Magneto should never be compared to Malcom X magneto was literally a boring villain trying to rule the world maybe if you actually read comics you would know Claremont literally changed the background on Magneto so no Stan Lee did not create them for civil rights.
Warpath is great. He is essentially Man+, the ultimate in human physical perfection. His mutation gives him unparalleled physical strength, speed, reflexes, durability, regeneration, and senses turned up not just to 11, but to 17. One of the underappreciated X-Men :D Peter Maximoff is Quicksilver, and you've seen him before in the MCU, he's Wanda's brother. He's Marvel's Flash, and also the son of Magneto in the comics (although they did a weird retcon thing recently where this is apparently not true for no real reason) :P Also in the comics, Madison Jefferies, aka Box, is a mutant who can psionically reshape plastic, metal, and glass. You asked about a mutant who could control plastic, well there you go :D
So glad you enjoyed it, I remember seeing the trailer and getting a different feel about it and it's the best X-Men movie imo. I'm a type of viewer who watches from start to finish, the long convo at the ending I really like. And I'm glad you said the pyramids were made around 10k years ago, that's more accurate than what we've all been taught that it was only made around 4000 years ago!
I’m glad yall clocked that this Quicksilver is a variant of the Quicksilver we see in Age of Ultron! It’s gonna make the rest of the series so much more satisfying. 🗣️ THE MRS. IS SO SMART!!! 😍
Logan was the only one who experienced the timeline. But since prof x can read minds, prof x basically downloaded the memories, or updated his files with logans.
In the comics and the Xmen cartoons from my childhood Rogue is super badass because at one point she permanently steals Captain Marvel's powers so she can fly and has super strength on top of being able to steal others power.
My two favorite X-Men stories from way back are "God Loves, Man Kills" and "Days of Future Past", both adapted into my favorite X-movies. God Loves, Man Kills became X2. In that comic, William Stryker was a religious zealot, not a military guy.
In Days of Future Past, time travel works like Back to The Future... the original timeline is erased/changed by the actions of time travelers. The MCU went with the opposite approach, where the original timeline never changes, just new ones created. In the MCU, all those living beings who came back from being snapped away by Thanos weren't restored just because of time travel, they were still dust when the Avengers returned to the future. Hulk had to perform another snap using the infinity stones to bring them back. All the time travel accomplished was to bring back a set of stones enabling them to perform that feat.
This movie is adapted from the comics, Uncanny Xmen 141 & Uncanny Xmen 142. In the original story its Kitty Pryde who goes back in time to warn the others, Logan stays behind to defend against the sentinels. In the conext of the movie, it was the right choice to change the messenger to Logan. It's an amazing movie, happy you two loved it!
COMIC BOOK FYI: This movie is an alteration on the comic book story line "Days of Future Past" by Chris Claremont & John Byrne. Both men are exceptional comic book talents. Chris Claremont is known as one of the top tier writers. John Byrne is known for both his writing and artwork. Comic Book Rouge was a Beta level mutant (ranked Class 3 by movie terms). Overtime, with Charles Xavier's help, she gains the control to not hurt anyone. This upgraded her to Alpha level (movie Class 4). She is capable of temporarily absorbing Omega level powers (movie Class 5). She does have limits on how much power she can absorb, but that limit is so high it is almost never reached.
Dude, never thought of you as a nerd until this moment when you are engaging in a serious debate about whether or not humans or mutants are more dangerous. 😂 Welcome! I love this so much.
It’s not a debate though… mutants by definition are more dangerous. They can do everything humans can do plus significantly more they can build all the weapons and they can do things 1 million times more advanced than humans could dream of. It’s crazy to me that people are even debating this.
Exactly. The best X-Men movie and possibly the best Marvel Comics movie. But I do not like this Rogue Cut. The theatrical cut is packed and edited perfectly.
But if you remember, Erik was also shot by the cure. 4 times in fact and we saw by the end that his powers were coming back in that same movie, so it doesn’t really matter. I think the point was that if you’re that powerful it will slowly end up coming back
Wanda wasn't shown but was mentioned/referenced. When Logan, Eric & Hank go see Peter, his mom tells the little sister to go upstairs to her sister's room (Wanda) . Wanda couldn't be shown because of MCU .
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
Peter's little sister in this movie is Lorna Dane, aka Polaris, who in the comics is another one of Magento's children who has the same powers as Magneto and a different mother than Peter and Wanda. Wanda is off camera in a deleted scene in this movie.
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
Stryker: "I'll take him from here." Viewers: "Oh, so that's how he gets him!" Stryker: (flashes Mystique eyes for no reason whatsoever) Viewers: "Wait... that's stupid and doesn't make any sense."
31:35 Roug is a class 3 mutant (Gamma), mutants of this category have a defective gene that makes them sometimes powerful, but many times they are unable to control their power, she cannot control who absorbs the power because it happens with contact. In addition to this, in the original version, unlike the movies, she cannot control the power she absorbs, which is often dangerous for her own team...
Sentinel program was discontinued in 1973 timeline, when Logan woke up in the present they never existed. And, since Mystique DIDN'T kill anyone, Erik went back to constructing "The Brotherhood of Mutants". The discussion at the end, conflict is predicated on the premise that there are 'good mutants' and 'bad mutants'. Erik is determined to get to humans before they get to him, and there are other mutants that are working against that conflict.
Rogue is an Alpha level mutant which is like 2nd most powerful class if i remember correctly for example Magneto is Omega level and Wolverine is Beta level because lets be real at the end he just has claws and regeneration
I’ve never seen the Rogue cut in full. I’ve only ever seen it in reactions. But I did see the original movie. And at the time of seeing the original movie, I was really mad that Anna Paquin got so much press and advertisement. Because they had a series of movie posters and not only did get her own, but the one where there was a group shot, she was in a large and prominent position. And I couldn’t understand why. Because literally in the original theatrical movie, she was only in it when Logan woke up at the very end and saw her and Bobby talking down the hallway after everything was fine. She had no lines and was in it for literally seconds. But yeah, Kitty was really struggling. And Logan did still cut her. The crazy thing to think about is that time was moving forward at the same pace in both timelines. It took Logan a few days to get everyone together and to have that battle with the sentinel robots. Which means Kitty/Rogue had to be sitting at the head of Logan and concentrating without moving for multiple days. No eating and no bathroom! That really sucked for them! 😅💙💙💙
After end credits, Apocalypse, my favorite X-Men villain, at least in the comics and cartoon. This movie changed the time line so the first three movies didn't happen like they were depicted. Rogue is an Alpha level mutant. Omega's are the top tier which is Magneto, Charles and Jean Grey. Rogue cut is an extended version, adds in Rogue's scene if I'm not mistaken and a few other scenes.
Just a few examples of what I think about levels: 5 Phoenix 4 Xavier Magneto 3 Rogue Storm 2 Cyclops Colossus Mystique Wolverine Lower level mutants (eg Mystique) can do so so much amazing stuff with their 'gifts' but can't destroy an army like a Phoenix could.
Re: Treating Mutants as Nukes... This is essentially the same argument that was made in the Avengers - and led to the Sokovia Accords that led to Civil War... that storyline was an adaptation from the comics that started with the "Mutant Registration Act" that later became the "Superhero Registration Act" ... and a similar Civil War Your position on the mutants here is funny when you were on the other side with the Sokovia Accords....
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Apocalypse NEXTTTTTT!!!!!!!
I thought I would try to answer your question about many people not wanting mutants to be labeled as dangerous in advance because of their abilities, first let me address what mutants reflect in society and it is they who are different in society than what others think it is normal, before people of color were treated differently because of their skin color and were feared and hated by whites because they looked different, then you have homosexuals who were feared by society and some believed that homosexuals were contagious and many in religion considered them to be of the devil offspring to destroy society, another group is persons who are mentally ill and these were locked up because it was the best to keep them away from the general public and they were forcibly sterilized mentally ill even before.
All of these that I wrote as examples were previously seen as a threat to society before but as today there are many who do not see them as such just because they are different than what is considered to be the norm in society, so mutants have abilities that make them different , abilities that make many distrust them and make some people think that using violence whether it be physical or psychological is their "right" because they are not like everyone else, so for me it is that everyone should have the same right in society but if you are forced to be registered, you put a target on their backs like the Nazis did in Germany against Jews and that is someone I personally would not want to see.
It was nominated for Best Visual Effects at the Oscars, making it the first and only film in the franchise to be nominated.
It made $770 million dollars against a $200 million dollar budget.
I thought Logan got nominated for an Oscar as well?
Seriously, I didn't know about the Oscars, thanks for the information.
This is where the reset happen and the next few movie is basically alternative timeline
They should have stopped here. It could have been a giant cliffhanger
@@lucavitiello3722yep😔
And everything goes downhill. Thank goodness for Deadpool.
And each one is more trash than the last
The dumbest timeline
The Rogue Cut was an extended edition in that it added back scenes that were shot but not included in the theatrical release. In the theatrical release, all the scenes that had Rogue other then Rogue and Bobby in the altered future did not exist. In the theatrical cut, Kitty Pryde was still injured by Wolverine, but managed to hold out until the timeline changed. The X-Men never went on the mission to the X-Mansion to rescue Rogue (she wasn't even mentioned at all). It was weird in that the production made a big deal of Anna Paquin returning to the role when the movie was in production, but when it came out in theaters she had a three second cameo at the very end.
Man i was like WTF when i saw the scene on the reaction 😅
Kinda like a Snider cut for justice league
Also wouldn't make sense because of x men 3
Fun fact, when Magneto puts the rebar in Wolverine, it mimics the comic when Magneto literally pulled the adamantium out of his body, leaving him vulnerable and stationary. It was pretty brutal in the comic.
I remember that comic, Magneto literally liquified the adamantium in Wolverine's body, and pulled it out through his pores.
I wonder how Charles felt about that. LOL.
He was so pissed, he telepathically destroyed Magneto''s mind, erasing everything. He was a vegetable after that happened.@@kennyhudson9201
That's when Colossus turned. Wolverine was PISSED at Magneto. That was a kick ass read.
@@SKIP-yj3xp ouch
Rouge was originally a Beta level mutant (Class 3) cause she had no control over draining the life out of someone. Overtime in later comics she gain control to not hurt anyone upgrading her to Alpha (Class 4).
Rouge powers originally was taking life force and other mutants powers for a set time and didnt have flight or strength until she touched captain marvel and gain her strength and flight and her memories and captain marvel was the only powers that rouge gained that stayed with her and she the reason captain marvel had memory lost and the memories left Rouge with a problem until she met professor X who suppressed the memories, the first captain marvel movie definitely should've had Rouge in it since Rouge was the l reason she lost her memories
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Her power levels fluctuate wildly in the comics. She can't absorb the likes of Loki, Silver Surfer and Mephisto but had no issue with Thor and sometimes absorbs a whole team of Avengers and X-men including some very heavy hitters.
@@Etereys oh i get it now thanks for clearing that part up
IMO, this is peak X-Men. You've got old and young Charles and Erik. You've got Wolverine. What more could you want? And the Sentinels are a classic X-Men enemy.
Also, this movie has one of the franchise's unquestioned best scenes ... at least until the next movie. :)
Which scene you are talking about?
@@mar.s6516Quicksilver.
I agree with the title y'all, this is definitely one of the best ones out of the entire franchise. It's in my top 3. Great reaction y'all ❤
Best X-Men movie in my opinion.
Logan
Agreed
I'm conflicted between Logan and this for the best one.
Logan is technically better in every aspect, its deff. better as my personal pick too, but i get someone can enjoy this movie more simply from "fun" Pov - Logan is lot darker and heavier movie.@@jermainehaslam5634
The portrayal of Quicksilver here is always sooooo cool🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
"We can't support a weapon that targets our own citizens. If these mutants as you describe, are already living among us, then they're living here peacefully."
- is one of the most based quotes ever.
My only complaint about this movie is that Wolverine looked the best he ever has, in that awesome future suit with the bits of yellow and the streaks of gray in his hair, but we never get to see him fight any sentinels. Had to be, for the plot, but it's such a shame.
You guys are MOVING through this thank you. The best is yet to come
Peter Dinklage was in Avengers: Infinity War as Eitri the dwarf who designed Stormbreaker for Thor
Yes, we remember we watched it on the channel. It was awesome.
@@TheOctobersReactwatch as many marvel movies as you can, from the past until now. Secret Wars is coming and they can pull any character or it’s variant from any movie into the MCU. Deadpool is the key for all this to happen!!!
@@101stairborne6 u mean the upcoming deadpool movie?
I think Deadpool 2, specifically.
@@EtereysDeadpool & Wolverine, the newest one, that movie is a whole lot of setup for Secret Wars
Rogue works in the comics. She is a top class Mutant, the reason she is cut from these films more often than not is because her power is simply too strong to just be around all the time, you'd have to be explaining "why dont we just have rogue steal "X" power and do "Y"
Plus, potentially a visual effects nightmare cost-wise... if you have a couple people with expensive powers (due to CGI or whatever), with Rogue, suddenly it's like you've doubled the onscreen time of those abilities... Either that or Rogue isn't doing anything in the script.
31:42 I love the connection between Rogue and Logan, the way she said his name and he instantly knew it was her. I'm glad they decided to add her. It wouldn't have been the same without her, she was the first movie.
It’s so awesome to see the original iceman, Storm, colossus, wolverine, etc. it was like our childhood coming back.
So true! I hate the CGI Colossus they debuted in Deadpool. The version in the X-Men movies is wayyyy better.
I don't think Pyro was in this one.
@@christianfrost8660 yeah you’re right that was a mistake on my part.
This is the best X-Men movie of the franchise for sure! Especially as this movie came out before we had the multiverse in MCU, so back then this definitely was legendary!
Its sort of ironic that this film touched on the whole 'human' emotion / concept of hope. The original comic series has existed for decades on that same topic. Its still a common theme, especially considering the humane notion for all in the X-verse.
My top 3 are 1. Logan 2. First Class 3. Dead pool. But this is #4.
In the comics, it was Kitty who went back in time.
That argument makes sense.
The tendency to make selfish choices or misuse dangerous power is shared among humans and mutants. Neither mutants or humans have a monopoly on poor choices.
However, you are correct that individual mutants can cause more pain/problems than an individual human. This is why having X-Men as a protection is better than having humans use Sentinels as protection.
I love this film so much. It's not only the best X-Men movie, but I think one of the best comic book films ever. Cannot believe it's already been 10 years since it came out 😩
I haven’t even made it past the intro and I’m already crying 😂 “what are you on about” 🤣🤣 love you guys grabbing a drink and other grown up necessities and just can’t wait to watch 🍿
Hands down the best part of the reaction is when Mrs. October asked about propulsion. When she turns and asks about it, the wonder in her face was amazingly adorable!
One of the best superhero/xmen intros ever, so good remember seeing this in theatres blew my mind
You'll love the movie Logan. This one and Logan are my favorite of the X Men movies.
Iceman is considered ab omega level mutant meaning his ice power has no limit, he can drop a rooms temperature to below absolute 0
Opening scene with the centennials is great . Wish the whole movie was like it .
Sentinels*
They did apocalypse dirty. He was the scariest most menacing villain to me back in the 90s
That's exactly right.
yeah ending scene with apocalypse was so hype when it first released.
Yeah I was so hyped, I was like hyped beyond hype. Apocalypse was entertaining but I expected much much better.
Hey Octobers, regarding viewing order, while the film; "Logan" was technically released after "X-MEN: Apocalypse", but before "Dark Phoenix," "New Mutants," and the Deadpools. I, however, recommend saving Logan for dead last. It goes at the end chronologically and is also a satisfying conclusion to the franchise.
That not how it goes. Logan's after X-Men apocalypse
Logan has to be before Deadpool 2 though so they don’t get spoiled. Plus Deadpool 2 isn’t a bad movie in the slightest to end on.
@@asiaroberson3442 you are missing my point. I know the release order, but Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, and New Mutants all suck. They also all take place before Logan. My point is that it's a much more satisfying experience to leave the FoX-Men franchise on a high note like Logan, than to see Logan and go back to suffer through the leftovers that FoX squeezed out afterwards.
@@BiggestDawgEver they just saw X-Men apocalypse on Patreon and they love it.
The biggest difference between theatrical and the Rogue Cut is that Rogue is not a major character in the theatrical version. She only appears as a cameo at the end with the restored future timeline. So, in the theatrical version, there is no option to replace Kitty Pride and no side quest to rescue Rogue. On the one hand, the stakes are a little higher in the theatrical version, but on the other hand, if you like the movie version of Rogue, then the theatrical version cuts her out almost completely.
In case you were wondering, Peter/Quicksilver in this movie is the same character as Wanda's brother Pietro in Avengers: Age Of Ultron. They're just different versions of the same character. In the comics, both Wanda and Pietro Maximoff are mutants who have also been Avengers. Twentieth Century Fox owned the movie rights to the mutants that fall under the X-Men umbrella of characters, including Wanda and Pietro. But the MCU were able to use Wanda and Pietro in their Avengers movies, just as long as they weren't called mutants and never referred to by their mutant names Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
@@SKIP-yj3xpthey’re in the process of changing that back with trial of magneto
I have the comics when he found out they were his children. I'll have to read "The trial of Magneto" to compare the stories.@@Cream-2128
Storm…I was so disappointed at her demise. She is my absolute favourite, the first female heroine/superhero I became obsessed with as a child in the 90’s. My brother would buy me comics every month, which is why I was always so gutted that in this film franchise they passed Storm an “Omega level mutant” off as this beta level deputy principal. Though the Tornado scene in X2 is still my favourite scene of hers from the films.
On a side note, the actor Adan Canto, who played Sunspot (Guy engulfed/absorbed in Solar flames) in this film, passed away January this year. I would have loved to had seen more of his character. He and Halle Berry also did another film together called Bruised, it’s definitely worth a watch.
Favorite X movie is Xmen 1. It may not be the best, but it finally made a superhero movie serious and put them in semi believable situations. I was so worried that it would be campy, but it held it's own. Not the best Xmen movie but still my favorite by the way they handled it with real respect to the characters. With that said, they can now get away with giving them comic accurate costumes, which will be awesome and we just saw from the Deadpool 3 trailer that Wolvie finally gets his comic costume. Hallelujah!!
The best X-Men movie.....
This is the standard that Kevin Fiege must continue on...
Fiege is a talentless hack. He’s been exposed ever since ousting Ike Perlmutter from the MCU. The primary architect of the M-She-U we have now.
He won't. Feige's great solution for everything is: add more cameos.
Logan is
@@PhasersAndArrowslmao Ike was an idiot hack we wouldn’t even have a black panther movie if his racist ass was in charge they got rid of Ike for phase 3 and boom we got the best phase
I'm so X-Cited that you dropped this the day after, "The Wolverine". ✌️
0:13 hey that's accurate lol. We've been anticipating y'all watching this one. My 3rd favorite X-men movie
can you give me your top 3 then lol bc this one was nuts
One, x2 and Logan
@@TheOctobersReactin order. Logan, First Class and Days of Future Past
@@TheOctobersReactthis was my favorite too along with X-Men 3 and Logan
@@TheOctobersReactnext one is X-Men apocalypse, than Logan's (bring tissues for that one 😭), Deadpool 2, X-Men dark 🌑🕶️ Phoenix, and the New mutants
You know what, Mr. October? Saw in a past video some troll was talking mess about the way you talk...
I am subbed because of the way you talk! You and the Missus are hilarious, charming, goofy... two people I would kick it with and just laugh all day.
And at least once in every video, you make me laugh out loud at something crazy you say, or how you say it. I'm usually cooking and my husband is like "what's going on?" Hahaha.
I think I'm gonna start putting time stamps on all your vids when you say something that just tickles me.
Hahaha. You two are really fun and you make me smile when it's hard to smile sometimes.
this is exactly why we do this for this comment right here. we love that you feel that way because it’s exactly what we want! thanks for going out of your way to be kind we really appreciate you
Yes, they both seem very educated and Mr. October’s commentary reminds me of myself 😂
Chris Christie lol!!!! That’s hilarious.
cant wait for you to watch x men apocalypse
I wish we'd get a whole Age of Apocalypse series of films.
Another game of thrones cameo
@@3Kings_Industries Not yet,amigo,it's gonna be a while before we even get a decent new X-Men movie. Some years away.
I love the way they continue the story from X-Men First Class and the story from the original movies, this movie kind feels like the endgame of the X-Men franchise with the way they show respect to the history of the X-Men films.
Talking about all the history stuff but I think you missed the JFK part. Remember what Erik was in prison for? Remember the bullet chasing Mystique?
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I didn't see Clockstoppers, but I did see Over the Hedge. The squirrel, Manny, who is already hyperactive, downs an energy drink, and something similar happens.
X-Men Days of The Futur Past Because it's Avengers Infinity Wars X-Men Sagas and More Fidelity Comics Book.
It's First Multivers Movies before Spider-Verse Animation and Avengers Endgame and More
My dear Georgia friends, it always warms my heart when Mrs. O gets the giggles.
Sentinels for me was probably the most scariest villains in the X Men series as they have no emotion whatsoever and no self preservation. You can't reason with them or stop them as they can adapt to anything.
And they won't stop until they complete their mission.
This is the best of the X-Men movies imo, aside from X-1. So hype you guys got to it so quick. 🙏🏻
I'm pretty certain by this point Logan has all of his memories back. Hinted at i think but definitely shown when he remembered what he was doing pretty confidently at the time he woke up after being sent to the past which was before stryker and losing his memories
Peter Maximoff is Quicksilver here, there was a contractual loophole that allowed the MCU to use Quicksilver as well, but the MCU version is more comic accurate as far as name and accent and everything but the X-Men version portrayed his speed powers a lot better
Fact.. 🤝👍💪
Great pace with the reactions as always
Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are now levels higher compared to madame web 😂😂😂
and It's Morbin time
storm was originally supposed to be the last one to survive the fight in the future timeline but halle berry was pregnant at the time and couldn’t be on wires that much so they cut a good amount of her action scenes
Because of the time travel, Professor X was able to correct a lot of his mistakes.
X-Men days of future past let's go!!
This is the AVENGERS culmination that the X-Men needed to keep up 😅❤
X-men apocalypse is one of my favorite of the X-men movies next to The Wolverine and X2
Bruh I LOVE clockstoppers!! Had it on VHS and watched it so much
Charles and Erik are the best 'Frenemies' in pop culture hehe! 🧠⚙
So happy you guys got to this one finally
Iceman is one of the few OMEGA mutants in the X-Men franchise. Storm and Jean are also OMEGA. The sum of their power can’t be quantified. It’s almost limitless.
Mybe in comics but in movies and in comics only Jean is omega level 5 mutant ❤
@@Superfoczka1 which is a shame because they had numerous opportunities to show the different levels of the mutants powers.
You forgot Rogue!
@@Rynzler-vh7xc Rogue is not an Omega level mutant in the films, cartoons or comics.
Definitely one of my favourite of the franchise along with 2 and First Class.
I was 12 when the first X-men came out. At the end Magneto said “there is a war coming” and in that moment all I could think was “ Days of Future Past” comic story. Every since I was hoping for the movie and it took 14 yrs and I was very pleased
This is one of the best X Men movies, can't wait until you get to Logan
I think Trask being shown was meant to show that the Sentinel program will always be built by humanity. They just change when it happens and how it happens, but it always happens, in most universes.
To answer your question about how strong a mutant Rogue is...in the main comic storyline, early on (when she was hanging around with Mystique and less good mutants) there was an occasion when she attacked Carol Danvers (as in Captain Marvel). She absorbed Carol's powers but due to certain complications during the incident....it went wrong and became a permanent absorption. Carol was without powers for a long while. They did eventually return but Rogue also retained the abilities. So for pretty much all of her history in x-men comics Rogue has had the powers of Carol Danvers (and you already know how powerful she is from the MCU).
Yessirski thank y’all for always delivering with the reactions now I’m finna sit here with my scoliosis for 1 hour and watch the whole thing 😂
JUST remember In Marvel the X men are an aligory for Civil Rights.
They are not
@@Cream-2128 yes they are
@@marlonclark-pp9wgno they are not did you actually read the original X-men magneto was literally a generic villain. His background didn’t change until Claremont started writing them.
@@Cream-2128 yes there did you see stan lee's explanation on his creation of x-men so shut your mouth about something you don't understand
@@marlonclark-pp9wg Stan Lee never said that shit and he was known to take credit for things. I’ve actually read the comics so you shut your fucking mouth. Magneto should never be compared to Malcom X magneto was literally a boring villain trying to rule the world maybe if you actually read comics you would know Claremont literally changed the background on Magneto so no Stan Lee did not create them for civil rights.
Warpath is great. He is essentially Man+, the ultimate in human physical perfection. His mutation gives him unparalleled physical strength, speed, reflexes, durability, regeneration, and senses turned up not just to 11, but to 17. One of the underappreciated X-Men :D
Peter Maximoff is Quicksilver, and you've seen him before in the MCU, he's Wanda's brother. He's Marvel's Flash, and also the son of Magneto in the comics (although they did a weird retcon thing recently where this is apparently not true for no real reason) :P
Also in the comics, Madison Jefferies, aka Box, is a mutant who can psionically reshape plastic, metal, and glass. You asked about a mutant who could control plastic, well there you go :D
So glad you enjoyed it, I remember seeing the trailer and getting a different feel about it and it's the best X-Men movie imo.
I'm a type of viewer who watches from start to finish, the long convo at the ending I really like. And I'm glad you said the pyramids were made around 10k years ago, that's more accurate than what we've all been taught that it was only made around 4000 years ago!
I’m glad yall clocked that this Quicksilver is a variant of the Quicksilver we see in Age of Ultron! It’s gonna make the rest of the series so much more satisfying. 🗣️ THE MRS. IS SO SMART!!! 😍
Logan was the only one who experienced the timeline. But since prof x can read minds, prof x basically downloaded the memories, or updated his files with logans.
The rogue cut is exactly what you saw just rogue in 3 sceens
Y’all are one of the few reactors to watch everything in order👍🏾
In the comics and the Xmen cartoons from my childhood Rogue is super badass because at one point she permanently steals Captain Marvel's powers so she can fly and has super strength on top of being able to steal others power.
My two favorite X-Men stories from way back are "God Loves, Man Kills" and "Days of Future Past", both adapted into my favorite X-movies. God Loves, Man Kills became X2. In that comic, William Stryker was a religious zealot, not a military guy.
In Days of Future Past, time travel works like Back to The Future... the original timeline is erased/changed by the actions of time travelers. The MCU went with the opposite approach, where the original timeline never changes, just new ones created.
In the MCU, all those living beings who came back from being snapped away by Thanos weren't restored just because of time travel, they were still dust when the Avengers returned to the future. Hulk had to perform another snap using the infinity stones to bring them back. All the time travel accomplished was to bring back a set of stones enabling them to perform that feat.
This movie is adapted from the comics, Uncanny Xmen 141 & Uncanny Xmen 142. In the original story its Kitty Pryde who goes back in time to warn the others, Logan stays behind to defend against the sentinels.
In the conext of the movie, it was the right choice to change the messenger to Logan. It's an amazing movie, happy you two loved it!
COMIC BOOK FYI: This movie is an alteration on the comic book story line "Days of Future Past" by Chris Claremont & John Byrne. Both men are exceptional comic book talents. Chris Claremont is known as one of the top tier writers. John Byrne is known for both his writing and artwork.
Comic Book Rouge was a Beta level mutant (ranked Class 3 by movie terms). Overtime, with Charles Xavier's help, she gains the control to not hurt anyone. This upgraded her to Alpha level (movie Class 4). She is capable of temporarily absorbing Omega level powers (movie Class 5). She does have limits on how much power she can absorb, but that limit is so high it is almost never reached.
Dude, never thought of you as a nerd until this moment when you are engaging in a serious debate about whether or not humans or mutants are more dangerous. 😂 Welcome! I love this so much.
It’s not a debate though… mutants by definition are more dangerous. They can do everything humans can do plus significantly more they can build all the weapons and they can do things 1 million times more advanced than humans could dream of. It’s crazy to me that people are even debating this.
Exactly. The best X-Men movie and possibly the best Marvel Comics movie.
But I do not like this Rogue Cut. The theatrical cut is packed and edited perfectly.
Thank you your reaction guys 😊 I remember being soo hype when this movie came out I loved the story but perhaps because im a huge X-Men fan 😅
It's so good!
I don't mind "The Last Stand" but I've always Loved how this one re-writes history to give those X-Men a Happier Ending: Thank You👏Bryan Singer!
Are we all forgetting that Rogue took the cure in The Last Stand? I know this is not the main cut and fox didn't care about the continuity
Well now that it changes anything, I don't think rogue took anything. What happened in X-Men 3 never happened
@@asiaroberson3442 this timeline is still so confusing 😮💨
But if you remember, Erik was also shot by the cure. 4 times in fact and we saw by the end that his powers were coming back in that same movie, so it doesn’t really matter. I think the point was that if you’re that powerful it will slowly end up coming back
Wanda wasn't shown but was mentioned/referenced. When Logan, Eric & Hank go see Peter, his mom tells the little sister to go upstairs to her sister's room (Wanda) . Wanda couldn't be shown because of MCU .
In the comics Pietro (Quick Silver) and Wanda (Scarlet Witch) are Magneto`s children!
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
@@SKIP-yj3xpthey only did that because of the movies they are looking like they are about to change it back
I mean, 70s Logan is always a blast
37:36 I died with her, my favourite X-Men. I felt what Charles felt.
Peter's little sister in this movie is Lorna Dane, aka Polaris, who in the comics is another one of Magento's children who has the same powers as Magneto and a different mother than Peter and Wanda.
Wanda is off camera in a deleted scene in this movie.
In the comics they changed the story, Wanda and Pietro were never mutants, the High Evolutionary messed with them earlier in their lives. So Magneto isn't their father.
@@SKIP-yj3xp Yes, I meant originally. Before the retcons
Stryker: "I'll take him from here."
Viewers: "Oh, so that's how he gets him!"
Stryker: (flashes Mystique eyes for no reason whatsoever)
Viewers: "Wait... that's stupid and doesn't make any sense."
31:35 Roug is a class 3 mutant (Gamma), mutants of this category have a defective gene that makes them sometimes powerful, but many times they are unable to control their power, she cannot control who absorbs the power because it happens with contact. In addition to this, in the original version, unlike the movies, she cannot control the power she absorbs, which is often dangerous for her own team...
Sentinel program was discontinued in 1973 timeline, when Logan woke up in the present they never existed. And, since Mystique DIDN'T kill anyone, Erik went back to constructing "The Brotherhood of Mutants".
The discussion at the end, conflict is predicated on the premise that there are 'good mutants' and 'bad mutants'. Erik is determined to get to humans before they get to him, and there are other mutants that are working against that conflict.
How they killed bishop is exactly how his power works he absorbs energy and then can redirect it
Apocalypse was a HUGE storyline in the comics, so I was hyped by that post credit scene... my reaction to that movie can wait until you see it
Rogue is an Alpha level mutant which is like 2nd most powerful class if i remember correctly for example Magneto is Omega level and Wolverine is Beta level because lets be real at the end he just has claws and regeneration
I’ve never seen the Rogue cut in full. I’ve only ever seen it in reactions. But I did see the original movie. And at the time of seeing the original movie, I was really mad that Anna Paquin got so much press and advertisement. Because they had a series of movie posters and not only did get her own, but the one where there was a group shot, she was in a large and prominent position. And I couldn’t understand why. Because literally in the original theatrical movie, she was only in it when Logan woke up at the very end and saw her and Bobby talking down the hallway after everything was fine. She had no lines and was in it for literally seconds. But yeah, Kitty was really struggling. And Logan did still cut her. The crazy thing to think about is that time was moving forward at the same pace in both timelines. It took Logan a few days to get everyone together and to have that battle with the sentinel robots. Which means Kitty/Rogue had to be sitting at the head of Logan and concentrating without moving for multiple days. No eating and no bathroom! That really sucked for them! 😅💙💙💙
After end credits, Apocalypse, my favorite X-Men villain, at least in the comics and cartoon. This movie changed the time line so the first three movies didn't happen like they were depicted. Rogue is an Alpha level mutant. Omega's are the top tier which is Magneto, Charles and Jean Grey. Rogue cut is an extended version, adds in Rogue's scene if I'm not mistaken and a few other scenes.
Just a few examples of what I think about levels:
5 Phoenix
4 Xavier Magneto
3 Rogue Storm
2 Cyclops Colossus Mystique Wolverine
Lower level mutants (eg Mystique) can do so so much amazing stuff with their 'gifts' but can't destroy an army like a Phoenix could.
My brother. "He looks like Chris Cristie" fucking slayed me
He did lol
Re: Treating Mutants as Nukes...
This is essentially the same argument that was made in the Avengers - and led to the Sokovia Accords that led to Civil War... that storyline was an adaptation from the comics that started with the "Mutant Registration Act" that later became the "Superhero Registration Act" ... and a similar Civil War
Your position on the mutants here is funny when you were on the other side with the Sokovia Accords....