The MAM Journals-Honda CB1000r - Neo. A Sports Cafe, roadster .
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- When a friend bought this new Honda CB1000R , he very kindly asked me to run the bike in for him. Although there are some constraints in reviewing bikes that you can't fully explore , I was delighted to do so.
I n this video I review the technical specifications of the Honda including the rider technology, aesthetics and finish. We take the bike out for a ride and I then make some closing comments with my initial impressions.
With such a variety of styles and performance levels available today it is perhaps inevitable that we are are seeing the emergence of ever more categories . Whether a neo (new) sports ,cafe category is required remains to be seen but Honda certainly have the capability to build great engines , smooth gearboxes and well finished bikes. Is this one of them?
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Now, these reviews are maybe the most professional ones I have seen in UA-cam. Very good, calm, factual, mature and without any sign of advertising. Thanks!
Hello
Thanks for the video. l am really glad you have graced us once again with one of your videos, which l think is one of the most underappreciated on the internet. l liked your comment about a lady so graciously helping you test the brakes.
l had a similar situation last week although l was on a bicycle where one thoughtful gentleman decided to help me test my reflexes as well as my composure. Was making my way down the road, after having crested the hill and this section gets fast very quickly, this gentleman decided to lazily turn into my path, he was ahead of me with no signal. Thankfully he was not going too fast. Upon recognising my predicament l tried to lean into the direction he was turning and the thing which surprised me most, was without any thought, l was up on my feet with my pedals parallel to the ground like l wanted to do a bunny hop or something (which l cannot). It went reasonably well, thanks to the car's speed and my actions. l believe l scraped his bumper with my pedals as the car came to a stop with me just making contact and thats about the worst which occurred. So came off a bit chuffed with my reflexes but l do not want anymore tests.
As for the composure part. All l recall was, l was not making any meaningful communication (foreign country) due to my attempt to gather my thoughts and assess the damage. All in all he eventually asked am l OK and having affirmed that, we parted ways. As it was nighttime l did not see if there was any damage although there should not be any given l have been riding the bike since then with no issues. As it is an old bike 10 years or so, l doubt l would have noticed anyway.
So the fact that you can make light of what for most is a very stressful situation is something l greatly appreciate after my nearmiss. Scorecard: Reflexes - quite sharp, Composure - must improve.
Glad you managed to save it ! It is interesting how our minds slow and manage to calculate options in these moments . I have ridden for over 40 years and have experienced it quite a few times now . Ride safe 👍
@@michaelmam Thanks
I think it is one of the hazards of being on the roads. At that point l was glad l was not on the motorbike. It could have become quite hectic: police, insurance assessors and potentially bigger bills. That is why l usually cycle around the city.
Another comprehensive and witty, good quality review Micheal. Thanks for the time and the effort!
Thank you Robert ! Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I’m amazed by the quality of your videos thanks. what I don’t understand is why your subscriber base isn’t massive. I think your content is very impressive.
Thank you John . I don’t worry about it . If people enjoy them and find them useful , that is great 👍
@@michaelmam that’s admirable.
I enjoy your down to earth conversational approach to making really interesting content. Thanks.
Greetings from France. I enjoyed your knowledgeable, informative and balanced appraisal of the machine. Being of a certain age, we have a similar attitude to the manner in which bikes should be ridden. I bought one today; it's going to take 4 to 6 weeks to arrive. I'm optimistic that being described as a 'Black Edition', it will indeed be black.
😂 Noir surely ..just ridden the bike again with the Nitron system on . Very good . Entertaining . Have fun with your new bike 👍
Vraiment noir! It's just arrived. Three hundred gentle kilometers yesterday, and I'm delighted with it. A smooth and flexible engine. I've yet to take it over 5000rpm, beyond which, I gather, I can expect my arms to stretch. The Akrapovic slip-on is still hiding in its box.
I've heard many complaints about the rear shock. Perhaps my riding style is too modest to expose its alleged defects. Is the cost of a Nitron set up justified? If so, would I be able to fit it myself? Cordialement. @@michaelmam
@@m2menuiserie540 congratulations 🎉 . Have fun . Great bike .
I have never ridden a standard bike as Simon had lowered his by the time I got to ride it . I had to be careful with it as it bottomed out . I have since ridden it with Nitrons and it transformed the handling. I guess it depends how you ride ? Personally with that amount of power I would upgrade , but we are all different 👏
Apart from the quite hideous exhaust, the bike looks really good. I can't think that Honda didn't consider that it would be used for touring; a screen and some soft panniers are all that you'd need for an excellent bike in that regard. I seem to remember another review of the bike, some time ago, which said that the suspension was quite soft. So, the addition of a Nitron shock and fork cartridge, looks like a really good idea. The dash on the bike is exactly the same as the new Hornet and Transalp. Looks good and clear to me and, when I tested the Hornet, it was easy to go between functions. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment Clive 👍
I look forward to your future review of this bike fitted with the new suspension pieces. I was curious how much lower is the bike and then the handling evaluation after the new parts are installed. Your preliminary evaluation sparked my interest in this bike.
Hi Michael
I have watched a few reviews on this bike and generally reviewers find it is surprisingly rapid. I agree it looks like an engine with a bit of bike added which I really like.
Regards
Denis
Hi Denis . I liked it too . At a glance , simple but actually quite a sophisticated, powerful bike. 👍
My next bike.
i love the look of this bike for when i cant get onto a sportsbike anymore,, my only issue is the rear number plate location makes it look like a scooter from behind, honda arent the only ones to do this recently either, that would have to go in the bin for me
Yes . Not a great number plate look . As usual the after market guys have solved that 👍
Particularly Evotech Performance, in my humble opinion 👌
Hi Michael. In my case looks are a very important factor in intitially arousing my interest in any bike. Based on this premise the current generation of naked bikes does little for me. However, I was really taken by this bike. In my opinion Honda have really hit the spot. I would be interested to learn how you think it compares to the Z900RS whilst riding with in the confines of the law where I suspect the difference in horse power isn't too important. Great video as usual, thanks.
Hi , how are you ? I really liked the look of the bike as well , and more so as I spent some time with it .
When I initially ride a bike , I do tend to ask myself , what does this remind me of , and try and get a feel for the bike . Z900rs didn’t come into my mind but it is a good question ! With significantly more power , even at lower revs , the Honda feels more ZRX ( muscle bike) than RS but IS , like the RS , easy and comfortable to ride at legal speeds . The RS is clearly a tribute bike and has some very distinct styling clues whilst the Honda is a “ reinterpretation” and free to enter new ( neo) areas , both in terms of styling and technology . The 6 speed QS is a good example of that . I think you could happily potter around on the Honda , safe in the knowledge that , if you wanted to press on , it could . Finish wise both bikes initial starting point is good . I suspect the Honda will be harder to keep together ..
@@michaelmam All good here, thanks. Thank you for the comments. I love my RS it is a great all round bike and is the one in my stable that I look to when I just want to pootle about. But I think you've hit the nail on the head, sometimes when out one's mood changes and the RS doesn't quite have the ability to press on that my other, more sports orientated bikes do.
I am collecting my 2023 Bordeaux red CB1000R 9 August from Honda Newcastle - am getting Leo Vinci carbon exhaust thingy fitted - this review is the best I've seen - thank you so much - as I don't ride aggressively (I want to live 😂) I'm not sure about the Nitrons
@@jasonbourne7858 Congratulations 🎉 Have fun …. Nitrons are great on the bike . I have filmed some go pro and will try and get round to a “with nitrons” short video 👍
@michaelmam thanks so much - I'll post a pic when I take possession
The best-looking one-litre JILF. Not a fan of inline fours, although I had a B-King for over seven years. 212 kg is light. The last model CB1000R had a nicer headlight. More traditional. Great new TFT, though. I like the matt denim finish, but it would be a pain to match if you had to spray part of it in event of damage. I never change exhausts. I always worry about upsetting the low-down delivery.
Good review. Ig nore the new imposed username. I am 1990 [Nick J].
Hi Nick ! I thought it was a looker too .. My hayabusa is matt finish as well . Initially I was wary of polishing it but found something that works really well . I think most good painters have worked out how to replicate the finish so not the problem it was initially 👍
I was looking at buying one of these a couple of years ago, then I thought I should go for the Honda CB650R as it is well adequate, cheaper and better looking in my opinion and now I have my heart on a Kawasaki Z900RS.
All good bikes John .. I have had two Z900rs and really enjoy them . Have not got the muscle power of the Honda but brisk bikes and light and easy to ride . This is the review on my latest one ..ua-cam.com/video/KEstxjOXkv4/v-deo.html
Great video. Like you Im sure the use of terms like neo cafe racer not very helpful. Saw one at my local dealer today in the same colour. Looks great but much more power than I need at my advanced age!
Thanks for watching and commenting David . I still enjoy powerful bikes but respect that not everyone does . Lots of great bikes to choose from 👍
Thank you for the video, thorough information and insights!
Question please: How do the inverted front forks handle cold storage (unheated garage in cold Chicago winters) storage and average expectancy before needing oil seals replacement please? That is the only obstacle that keeping me from it. Thank You!
Glad you found it useful Richard . I am certainly no expert on the temperature tolerance of fork seals but I see no reason why the ones fitted to this bike will be any better or any worse than others of a similar nature . Most bikes have upside down forks now .. we should probably call them right way round now . Storing bikes upright on stands , balancing the pressure on both sides certainly helps ..👍
Hi Michael please do a review with the nitron fitted, because I would appreciate your feedback.
Will try to make a short , part 2 , with Nitrons if I can squeeze it in . Are you thinking about putting them on ?
My experience with fitting a new shock and revalved fork - both sprung to my weight (NOT by Nitron but by another extremely reputable company) haven’t yielded the results I was expecting….. The handling is somewhat improved but the overall ride quality and bump management is still poor at best. Very disillusioned.
Beautiful colour, but Honda come on! Sort out that rear shock!
In fairness to Honda , it had been lowered by my friend . I have never actually ridden the bike as Honda set it up . The Nitrons that replaced it , transformed the bike . 👍
@@michaelmam I read a lot of negative about the standard shock though. One wouldn't expect this from a brand like Honda
@@WolfgangVonKempelen838 Yea, don’t believe everything you read. I had one and it was standard. Rode really well, plush. Lovely. I regret selling it (to fund my current bike). Depends on your height and weight of course.
How would it do with someone 6'3" tall? I love smaller bikes, especially my Triumph t120 with clubman bars and cocktail shaker exhaust, but they dont love me.
Not sure I can answer that .. we are very different dimensions . Might be a good question for the Honda CB1000R forums ? You might get more useful information from a taller rider, who has the bike already ?
Any news on getting a replacement rear shock?
Nitron fitted . Transformed the handling 👍
Good to know, did the new shock lower the seat height.?
@@steveandrew3106 nitrons are very adjustable 👍 The system fitted allowed for a low riding position but maintained a reasonable amount of travel as well as rebound adjustment . Lowering the OE system compromised the travel quite a lot on the bike I tried . Hope this helps . Nitron now have the specification on file so could certainly build you something ?
Yes thanks
You are so wrong saying the quick shifter on Suzuki is better 👎 and the front breaks are two pot not three pot as you said.
You might want to check the specs ..,
And in my opinion the Suzuki QS is significantly better .. we will just differ . Thats fine ..
I don't think you should have to buy a bike with mediocre suspension, you definitely should not have to folk out another 1000 pound to upgrade there build of bike because standard parts are not good enough.
I know what you mean ..
a couple of comments . Firstly I have never ridden a CB1000r with standard suspension - the bike I rode had been lowered which significantly reduced travel . I definitely didn’t like that !
Secondly I think a lot of bikes have pretty basic suspension as standard fit . Ridden sensibly they are “ok” . Some riders like to upgrade their suspension and Nitron , Ohlins and many others serve that market . If the manufacturers built to a higher spec initially it would increase costs / prices for something that something that some don’t want ? Easy in the more expensive brands . They build different models of the same engined bike with enhanced brakes and suspension .. like BMW and Ducati ..?
Hi, be interesting to see what you think of the build quality after a few months. Apparently honda going down hill.
I have seen a few older ones and they looked fine ? Have you experienced anything specific ?
I had one for 2 years and I found the paint quality to be poor. It looked nice but was very soft and marked easily.
Hi, seen some vids on here from Andy man cam and shed torque show signs of rust, a mate of a mate had same problems, he sold it after 6 month from new having never rode in wet. I do like the cb but does look like honda have gone down hill , be good to know what you think. Keep up the good work.
@@steveandrew3106 modern paints are water based, soft, it’s something many modern bikes suffer from. TMF has scratches on his box fresh Z900RS after wiping dust off it.