You forgot to mention the "draw-down" part of these inverters. They can and will discharge said batteries very quickly. Probably would be a good Idea to run your vehicles engine while using especially when trying to power high current draw appliances like microwaves, hair dryers, coffee makers and others
I ran everything in our camper off a Cobra 2500 watt modified sine wave inverter for YEARS. Computers, phone chargers, hair dryers, you name it. Now we have lithium batteries and a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter that runs our 120v ac fridge and everything else when boondocking. Works great! I have the inverter mounted in the front pass-through storage area (next to our lithium batteries). I have a heavy duty extension cord plugged into the inverter, and it runs back to the shore power cord where I have a homemade 120v electrical box to plug us into ourselves. It gives us 120v in all the plugs in the trailer. 20+ years and still boondocking!
Thanks for that video. I have 8 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel putting out 800 amps to a 4k inverter, which powers a portable AC, but not our roof AC in our Toy Hauler. We also have 2 size 8 cables running from our F250 alternator back to our truck bed to keep these 8 batteries charged up. Running the engine about 10 minuted per hour keeps them charged. Cheaper than running a generator full time, and less noise.
Good info, I personally try to use only 12v appliances when camping. You do lose efficiency going through a inverter, and I don’t have near the solar setup you do for recovery. If I absolutely need 110v I fire up the Honda.
Many thanks for the virtual dope slap. My wife and I bought a 16' Basecamp last year. Since we stay mostly in national and state parks we've been charging her laptop and camera batteries in the car during day trips. You reminded me that we have a 300W inverter sitting in a closet that we bought several years ago for a trip to Iceland - we rented a campervan and drove the ring road. The Basecamp has 2 lithium batteries and 320W of solar, plenty of power to take over. LOLOHO, Alan
I love it! Back in the 1990s, my twin brother got a 2000 W inverter and connected it to the battery of his 1972 Chevy C20 truck. We went out to the country of northern Maine, and he powered up his Marshall guitar amplifier with two 4x12" speaker cabinets and shredded on his guitar from the bed of his truck. Good times!
Hilariously informative as always. But a question..you don't say anything about how these affect your vehicle batteries. Are you running the engine while using these?
I installed a 3,000 watt inverter in our Brinkley. Along with a couple 370 watt solar panels and 4 100ah lithium batteries we had power to spare as we spent the winter off grid in Arizona. We used the TV, microwave, washing machine, and hotpot. Not all at the same time obviously. Solar and inverters have changed the RV industry. We have a small generator but rarely use it. Thanks for the video. See you on the road sometime. Burlington Bill busking on the road and here on you tube.
Thx Long Long Honey Moon for an informative and entertaining video. I like your selves have utilized inverters of all types to enjoy the great outdoors with some of the comforts of home. You mentioned the differences of modified and pure sine wave inverters without mentioning the difference between high and low frequency inverters and what type loads resistive or inductive are better served by each. YMMV Happy Camping Stay Healthy
We've used a small pure sine wave 400 W inverter for ~6+ years for our small computers & appliances. Works great for us & our needs. Using a 2k watt inverter & only one battery; you'll shoot thru your battery pretty quickly. Pure sinewave is the only way to fly. Your not spending much more for the feature compared to the damage you may receive.
We enjoy your videos and just by chance we are looking at inverters for our 5th wheel rv. After we watched your video we ordered a 2000watt ampeak pure sine wave inverter. Thanks for the entertaining videos
I went down that road. Bought a nice inverter, added a couple of deep cycle batteries, plus got a solar panel to charge said batteries. Works pretty good. All in pull behind little camper. When not really in use a Battery Tender. Seems to work.
Thanks for a lot of good information and presented in a very clear and informative manner, keep up the good work, we love your show. We have a 12vdc tv and fridge.
We installed that 2000w inverter in our 5th wheel, worked making coffee with Keurig. Also ran extension cord to the shore power plug, ran all lights, tv, charge phones, and a tablet.
Efficiency isn’t max output is what’s lost in the conversion so for every 1w of dc power you get .88w ac power. Essentially if you want to get the 200w that inverter claims it will cost you 244w for the battery.
Thanks for the fun video! 2000W is going to be 150A at 13V. The cables to your battery only looked to be around 4-6 AWG which should get pretty warm (and waste some power) at 150A. I would never walk away from it while running hard. 1/0 AWG would be a safer choice for this DC current. Safe travels!
What's the difference between an inverter like this at say 2000 watts vs an alternator charger...like ecoflow just came out with, used to charge a battery bank?
Tesla truck comes with inverter power as long as their battery lasts. Tesla should make a show case Tesla truck just for campers, called the Sean and Kristi, or the Honeymoon Special. They'll sell millions.
Thanks so much Sean. I love my Ecoflow & solar panels, but forgetaboutit if it’s cold or cloudy or rainy or you’re in the trees or just camping anywhere in the Cascades of Washington. I’m get confused when it comes to amp/volt/what conversions
I’m thinking…. Why buy a generator when one can purchase a battery & inverter for waaaaay less. Thanks again and I plan to do more investigating on this subject.
@@annmariewhale4501 Thanks for your comments... very interesting to me, and you have given me some ideas for more videos. The issue with the battery/inverter combination mainly is one of capacity/longevity. In other words, while you can run just about anything for a while, doing so will drain your battery and it will need to be replenished. For many appliances (blenders, coffee makers, electric cooktops, etc.) this is no big deal because you just use them for a short while. But for A/C units, batteries get knocked down quickly. If you are in an area where you don't need air-conditioning, an inverter can cover a LOT of your bases. I should probably do a video discussing in more detail.
@@LongLongHoneymoon Ooooooh, now I get it. A generator… replenishes the battery power. That makes much sense, like an alternator in a car. 🤦🏼♀️ I’m eager to learn more. You have a way of explaining things that make this subject easy to understand. I’ve watched ‘HOBOTECH’ but get lost in the electrical jargon and my eyes glaze over. Your bear spray video helped to… and speaking of electricity and bears… did you know you can buy a bear trip line to put around the perimeter of your camp site? Once tripped it makes a loud “BANG” to scare off the animal or person that set it ( or an animal- person hybrid like a Sasquatch) 👩🏼🔬🤗 I
I’ve watched this channel for quite a few years and I’ve always enjoyed the RV traveling. I’m hoping that infomercials is not the direction this channel is taking.
We haven’t changed anything… same mix as always for past 17 years. If anything last year we did mostly travel videos, but of course when bloggers were banned from the national parks we had to pursue different topics.
@johnfoppe5383 thanks. We have always done a mix of different styles of video and frankly that’s probably why our channel is not bigger. The most popular UA-cam channels usually have a basic formula and stick to it. We do different different types of videos. I watch a lot of product review channels and they are huge because so many people enjoy watching product videos on UA-cam. For example, I watch many Automotive, technology, and Camera review videos, even if I am not necessarily in the market to purchase the specific products. That is especially true with the Automotive reviews. I doubt I will ever own a Lamborghini, but sometimes it’s kind of fun to learn about those kinds of cars. With regard to this video and power inverters, these are products that we have used since literally day one of our camping journeys, even before we owned an RV. For newbies, I think they are great products to know about.
What Sean didn't mention is that big inverters powering big loads will chew through batteries so fast it will make your head spin. I wonder if he had to get a jump start after running the microwave off of Seemore's batteries... the inverter, while running the microwave, was pulling in the neighborhood of 163 Amps from the batteries!! The world may never know.......
I like the smaller versions, but big wattage requires everything the charging system wants. In addition, an alternator is quite expensive and difficult to change for the average citizen. I hate being broken down more than I like generator free power. Imho.
@@matthewwallace9280 only just a few minutes... that inverter was pulling about 163 amps from the batteries in Seemore during that demo. That's about the same as continuously cranking the engine for the same amount of time. How long can you crank your engine nonstop before the battery is dead?
Very interesting video. Especially without the music. (just kidding!) My question is, if you're connecting a two or three thousand watt inverter to your automobile's battery to power your coffee maker and hair dryer, etc., aren't you obviously running down your automobile's battery? I'm not an electrician and the best way to learn is to ask, right?! So how long can your wife run that hair dryer and run that lamp and coffee maker etc. before you don't have power to start your truck to haul it all back home?! And thank you again for a very interesting video.
I have been using the Car Generator to power our 25 Airstream for the last two seasons, sold my Honda 2000 generator. Jonathan (an Airstream owner to), the CEO, also sells kits to use for home for blackouts.
Almost everyone gets this wrong. Laptops, tower computers, TV & radios ALL CAN be run with a MODIFIED sign wave inverter. NONE of these items ACTUALLY run on 120V AC. They all have transformers (usually reducing the voltage to 12V AC or 5V AC) and full bridge rectifiers. The full bridge rectifiers will turn the AC voltage into DC voltage that the computer, radio or what ever needs to operate. NOW where a PURE sign wave inverter is NEEDED is for things like fans, air conditioners, refrigerator, induction cook tops & microwave ovens, vacuum cleaners. These are the things that NEED a PURE sign wave inverter. Even if you have a 3,000 MODIFIED sign wave inverter it WILL NOT run an induction cook tops. The MODIFIED sign wave is too DIRTY, the sign wave is not good enough to run an induction cook top. ALSO, MODIFIED sign wave inverters are VERY hard on ANYTHING that has a MOTOR in it. You will shorten the life of anything with a MOTOR in it by 30% to 60%. ALWAYS use a PURE sign wave inverter for these types of things. PLUS an electric motor that runs at 10 AMPS might (according to the label), depending on the application, will take 20 to 60 AMPS to START the motor. Air conditioners are one of the biggest draw at start up. These motors might take as long as two to three seconds to wind up to speed. Make SURE your inverter is rated to that much power. I have lived in THIS motorhome for 18.5 years, yes I am a full-timer, I have been for about 28 years. I have 1,950 watts of solar, 1,200 AMPS if lithium batteries and a 5,000 watt pure sign wave inverter. Even that will NOT run my drill press, electric pressure washer or my welder. I use my diesel powered 7,200 watt generator to run those three things.
You might advise novice campers to be careful to not drain their car battery that would leave them stranded when it is time to pack up. How long can a new car battery run a microwave?
They gotta make a living, as long as infomercials isn’t all they do, throwing one in once in a while is fine by me. If you are not interested in the product, don’t watch it.
I love Long Long Honeymoon, but this isn't really a great review IMHO. When you were showing the microwave running the inverter's display read that your truck's battery was down to under 11 volts which will kill the battery if it's kept under that load too long. Inverters can be great, but if you want to use them for camping and running coffee makers or any other real load you're going to need more than a single 12v battery to keep it going more than a few minutes. You can figure that for every 10 amps pulled on the inverter's load side that 100 amps will need to be pulled on the supply side. They will drain a typical 12V battery really quickly.
Always buy inverters that advertise the rated wattage, not the "about" wattage. You get much better quality, both in wattage and power quality. Stay away from Chinese made inverters!
Here is our list of inverters! www.amazon.com/shop/longlonghoneymoon/list/3XT6R467OK8G
You forgot to mention the "draw-down" part of these inverters. They can and will
discharge said batteries very quickly. Probably would be a good Idea to run your
vehicles engine while using especially when trying to power high current draw
appliances like microwaves, hair dryers, coffee makers and others
My thoughts exactly. The power has to come from someplace.
Great info. All I need now is a camper and tow vehicle.
I ran everything in our camper off a Cobra 2500 watt modified sine wave inverter for YEARS. Computers, phone chargers, hair dryers, you name it. Now we have lithium batteries and a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter that runs our 120v ac fridge and everything else when boondocking. Works great! I have the inverter mounted in the front pass-through storage area (next to our lithium batteries). I have a heavy duty extension cord plugged into the inverter, and it runs back to the shore power cord where I have a homemade 120v electrical box to plug us into ourselves. It gives us 120v in all the plugs in the trailer. 20+ years and still boondocking!
Thanks for that video. I have 8 deep cycle batteries wired in parallel putting out 800 amps to a 4k inverter, which powers a portable AC, but not our roof AC in our Toy Hauler. We also have 2 size 8 cables running from our F250 alternator back to our truck bed to keep these 8 batteries charged up. Running the engine about 10 minuted per hour keeps them charged. Cheaper than running a generator full time, and less noise.
Good info, I personally try to use only 12v appliances when camping.
You do lose efficiency going through a inverter, and I don’t have near the solar setup you do for recovery.
If I absolutely need 110v I fire up the Honda.
Many thanks for the virtual dope slap. My wife and I bought a 16' Basecamp last year. Since we stay mostly in national and state parks we've been charging her laptop and camera batteries in the car during day trips. You reminded me that we have a 300W inverter sitting in a closet that we bought several years ago for a trip to Iceland - we rented a campervan and drove the ring road. The Basecamp has 2 lithium batteries and 320W of solar, plenty of power to take over. LOLOHO, Alan
For those about to RV, we salute you. Good useful info. nice work
Also a clear presentation.
I love it! Back in the 1990s, my twin brother got a 2000 W inverter and connected it to the battery of his 1972 Chevy C20 truck. We went out to the country of northern Maine, and he powered up his Marshall guitar amplifier with two 4x12" speaker cabinets and shredded on his guitar from the bed of his truck. Good times!
Hilariously informative as always. But a question..you don't say anything about how these affect your vehicle batteries. Are you running the engine while using these?
I installed a 3,000 watt inverter in our Brinkley. Along with a couple 370 watt solar panels and 4 100ah lithium batteries we had power to spare as we spent the winter off grid in Arizona. We used the TV, microwave, washing machine, and hotpot. Not all at the same time obviously. Solar and inverters have changed the RV industry. We have a small generator but rarely use it. Thanks for the video. See you on the road sometime. Burlington Bill busking on the road and here on you tube.
Thx Long Long Honey Moon for an informative and entertaining video. I like your selves have utilized inverters of all types to enjoy the great outdoors with some of the comforts of home. You mentioned the differences of modified and pure sine wave inverters without mentioning the difference between high and low frequency inverters and what type loads resistive or inductive are better served by each. YMMV Happy Camping Stay Healthy
Thank you! Load specifications is required when specifying the inverter.
We've used a small pure sine wave 400 W inverter for ~6+ years for our small computers & appliances. Works great for us & our needs. Using a 2k watt inverter & only one battery; you'll shoot thru your battery pretty quickly. Pure sinewave is the only way to fly. Your not spending much more for the feature compared to the damage you may receive.
We enjoy your videos and just by chance we are looking at inverters for our 5th wheel rv. After we watched your video we ordered a 2000watt ampeak pure sine wave inverter. Thanks for the entertaining videos
Awesome! Thank you!
I went down that road. Bought a nice inverter, added a couple of deep cycle batteries, plus got a solar panel to charge said batteries. Works pretty good. All in pull behind little camper. When not really in use a Battery Tender. Seems to work.
Good info! Problem with using 12v car adapter is that most of those are fused with 10A fuse. Max AC you will get is 120W if lucky.
Thanks for a lot of good information and presented in a very clear and informative manner, keep up the good work, we love your show. We have a 12vdc tv and fridge.
Informative and entertaining. Thanks again for putting out such great content. It's like the Bible for camping!
We installed that 2000w inverter in our 5th wheel, worked making coffee with Keurig. Also ran extension cord to the shore power plug, ran all lights, tv, charge phones, and a tablet.
Efficiency isn’t max output is what’s lost in the conversion so for every 1w of dc power you get .88w ac power. Essentially if you want to get the 200w that inverter claims it will cost you 244w for the battery.
Good video. Missed Kristi.
Thanks Sean for a simple explanation of inverters. - Jim
Thanks for the fun video! 2000W is going to be 150A at 13V. The cables to your battery only looked to be around 4-6 AWG which should get pretty warm (and waste some power) at 150A. I would never walk away from it while running hard. 1/0 AWG would be a safer choice for this DC current. Safe travels!
What's the difference between an inverter like this at say 2000 watts vs an alternator charger...like ecoflow just came out with, used to charge a battery bank?
Tesla truck comes with inverter power as long as their battery lasts. Tesla should make a show case Tesla truck just for campers, called the Sean and Kristi, or the Honeymoon Special. They'll sell millions.
I love the way you think! It would be great to pair a Cybertruck with one of the new e-trailers (the ones with built-in batteries & hub motors).
Thanks so much Sean. I love my Ecoflow & solar panels, but forgetaboutit if it’s cold or cloudy or rainy or you’re in the trees or just camping anywhere in the Cascades of Washington.
I’m get confused when it comes to amp/volt/what conversions
Watt
@annmariewhale4501 thank you Annemarie for your kind comment. There is an old “Wat” meme that I would post if we could post photos here! 😂
I’m thinking…. Why buy a generator when one can purchase a battery & inverter for waaaaay less. Thanks again and I plan to do more investigating on this subject.
@@annmariewhale4501 Thanks for your comments... very interesting to me, and you have given me some ideas for more videos. The issue with the battery/inverter combination mainly is one of capacity/longevity. In other words, while you can run just about anything for a while, doing so will drain your battery and it will need to be replenished. For many appliances (blenders, coffee makers, electric cooktops, etc.) this is no big deal because you just use them for a short while. But for A/C units, batteries get knocked down quickly. If you are in an area where you don't need air-conditioning, an inverter can cover a LOT of your bases. I should probably do a video discussing in more detail.
@@LongLongHoneymoon
Ooooooh, now I get it. A generator… replenishes the battery power. That makes much sense, like an alternator in a car. 🤦🏼♀️
I’m eager to learn more. You have a way of explaining things that make this subject easy to understand. I’ve watched ‘HOBOTECH’ but get lost in the electrical jargon and my eyes glaze over.
Your bear spray video helped to… and speaking of electricity and bears… did you know you can buy a bear trip line to put around the perimeter of your camp site? Once tripped it makes a loud “BANG” to scare off the animal or person that set it ( or an animal- person hybrid like a Sasquatch) 👩🏼🔬🤗
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Sean I love watching hou snd Kristi and lookong forward to seeing more of yalls videos.
Thanks for your always informative and entertaining content !!
Interesting units. Thank you for the review.
Talking about shining a light on the topic!
I'm also an inverter generator guy. Love those videos too
I’ve watched this channel for quite a few years and I’ve always enjoyed the RV traveling. I’m hoping that infomercials is not the direction this channel is taking.
We haven’t changed anything… same mix as always for past 17 years. If anything last year we did mostly travel videos, but of course when bloggers were banned from the national parks we had to pursue different topics.
Sean, that’s great to hear.
I enjoy the occasional product review. Some of these things are expensive and it’s nice to be able to look before you buy. Thanks.
@johnfoppe5383 thanks. We have always done a mix of different styles of video and frankly that’s probably why our channel is not bigger. The most popular UA-cam channels usually have a basic formula and stick to it. We do different different types of videos. I watch a lot of product review channels and they are huge because so many people enjoy watching product videos on UA-cam. For example, I watch many Automotive, technology, and Camera review videos, even if I am not necessarily in the market to purchase the specific products. That is especially true with the Automotive reviews. I doubt I will ever own a Lamborghini, but sometimes it’s kind of fun to learn about those kinds of cars. With regard to this video and power inverters, these are products that we have used since literally day one of our camping journeys, even before we owned an RV. For newbies, I think they are great products to know about.
What Sean didn't mention is that big inverters powering big loads will chew through batteries so fast it will make your head spin. I wonder if he had to get a jump start after running the microwave off of Seemore's batteries... the inverter, while running the microwave, was pulling in the neighborhood of 163 Amps from the batteries!! The world may never know.......
DC appliances makes more sense!
If you were using a inverter to power your rv wouldnt you want to turn off your converter in wour camper or would that cut off 12volt acc
A little off the wall. I like it! Let the music begin!😂
We invested into Jackerys. 2 of 2000 watts and 2 of 300 watts with 2 of 200 watt solar panels.
it all depends on your battery you can kill a battery really fast
How fast? Say, how long could Sean run the microwave before he had to jumpstart SEEMORE? (...and then from what?)
I like the smaller versions, but big wattage requires everything the charging system wants. In addition, an alternator is quite expensive and difficult to change for the average citizen. I hate being broken down more than I like generator free power. Imho.
@@matthewwallace9280 only just a few minutes... that inverter was pulling about 163 amps from the batteries in Seemore during that demo. That's about the same as continuously cranking the engine for the same amount of time. How long can you crank your engine nonstop before the battery is dead?
@@BKD70 That's what I thought. Thank you!
Very interesting video. Especially without the music. (just kidding!) My question is, if you're connecting a two or three thousand watt inverter to your automobile's battery to power your coffee maker and hair dryer, etc., aren't you obviously running down your automobile's battery? I'm not an electrician and the best way to learn is to ask, right?! So how long can your wife run that hair dryer and run that lamp and coffee maker etc. before you don't have power to start your truck to haul it all back home?! And thank you again for a very interesting video.
Thanks good explanation of inverters. 🤛👍🙏😎🦅🇺🇸
I have been using the Car Generator to power our 25 Airstream for the last two seasons, sold my Honda 2000 generator. Jonathan (an Airstream owner to), the CEO, also sells kits to use for home for blackouts.
ummmmm - you want me to idle my 70k diesel truck to run 2000 watts? Don't think so. I'll buy an inverter genset of 1k.
@@hgoff5617how about a “power smart 2580” for $334.00, runs our ac no problem
Being honest-as long as you stay away from the cyber truck and any tesla garbage, any kind of product review is fine as long as you reference it.
You should do a FET vs transformer based inverters that might be a bright subject! Get it bright….bri….eh oh well…Nice video ad always
The funniest man in the RV world. 😅
Almost everyone gets this wrong. Laptops, tower computers, TV & radios ALL CAN be run with a MODIFIED sign wave inverter. NONE of these items ACTUALLY run on 120V AC. They all have transformers (usually reducing the voltage to 12V AC or 5V AC) and full bridge rectifiers. The full bridge rectifiers will turn the AC voltage into DC voltage that the computer, radio or what ever needs to operate.
NOW where a PURE sign wave inverter is NEEDED is for things like fans, air conditioners, refrigerator, induction cook tops & microwave ovens, vacuum cleaners. These are the things that NEED a PURE sign wave inverter. Even if you have a 3,000 MODIFIED sign wave inverter it WILL NOT run an induction cook tops. The MODIFIED sign wave is too DIRTY, the sign wave is not good enough to run an induction cook top. ALSO, MODIFIED sign wave inverters are VERY hard on ANYTHING that has a MOTOR in it. You will shorten the life of anything with a MOTOR in it by 30% to 60%. ALWAYS use a PURE sign wave inverter for these types of things. PLUS an electric motor that runs at 10 AMPS might (according to the label), depending on the application, will take 20 to 60 AMPS to START the motor. Air conditioners are one of the biggest draw at start up. These motors might take as long as two to three seconds to wind up to speed. Make SURE your inverter is rated to that much power.
I have lived in THIS motorhome for 18.5 years, yes I am a full-timer, I have been for about 28 years. I have 1,950 watts of solar, 1,200 AMPS if lithium batteries and a 5,000 watt pure sign wave inverter. Even that will NOT run my drill press, electric pressure washer or my welder. I use my diesel powered 7,200 watt generator to run those three things.
Very good !
You've got to keep the lights on!
You might advise novice campers to be careful to not drain their car battery that would leave them stranded when it is time to pack up. How long can a new car battery run a microwave?
very good video🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 I am electrician from India🇮🇳🇮🇳
They gotta make a living, as long as infomercials isn’t all they do, throwing one in once in a while is fine by me. If you are not interested in the product, don’t watch it.
Newer trucks/vehicles no longer come with a dc connection.
I love Long Long Honeymoon, but this isn't really a great review IMHO. When you were showing the microwave running the inverter's display read that your truck's battery was down to under 11 volts which will kill the battery if it's kept under that load too long. Inverters can be great, but if you want to use them for camping and running coffee makers or any other real load you're going to need more than a single 12v battery to keep it going more than a few minutes. You can figure that for every 10 amps pulled on the inverter's load side that 100 amps will need to be pulled on the supply side. They will drain a typical 12V battery really quickly.
Always buy inverters that advertise the rated wattage, not the "about" wattage. You get much better quality, both in wattage and power quality. Stay away from Chinese made inverters!
Hate to disappoint you, but they are ALL Chinese made.
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Enough with the stupid music and the cutesy antics. Just give us the information you have to present and stop "acting."
hear hear!
@@LongLongHoneymoonmusic can never be dumb, only people who play it. Just kidding.
@@davidmiles2597 the people responsible for putting music in this video have been sacked!