You have too many zoom Lenses on your list, my favorite (3rd? why not 2nd !?)) party Lenses are the Voigtlanthar APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical and the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 65mm 2.0 which have outstanding image quality and I love the manual focusing, I get much more sharpness where I want it than with my Sony GM prime Lenses !
I do really appreciate your help. I was actually going to buy lenses for my camera and doing a lot of research when I saw your video. And seriously it solved almost 85% of the problems. Both time and money saved. Once again Thank You for your help with this video. And Best of luck for your videos.
The three lenses that I use the most are all Tamron (obviously): 17-28 f/2.8, 35-150 f/2-2.8, 150-500 VC VXD. It's a brilliant three lens setup. As for lenses I don't carry often, I prefer the image quality consistency of the 28-75 G2 over any 24mm zoom I've ever shot... And I have shot most. If I need a proper 24, I'm going to a proper ultrawide angle zoom or prime for it.
Loving the sony A7iv, but does anyone know what focus setting to use when I have multiple talking heads and want to show case an item? Camera keeps focus on the talking heads and not the item in front of the lens? Thanks
It doesn't perform very well in direct lighting conditions, together with it's weight and price I went for the Sigma 24-70 instead. Now I just combine it with my 135mm GM and I have everything I need.
The 28-200mm from Tamron is a treat. But I’m not surprised, as I’m used to the 18-270mm for APS-C. Ok, tbh, I’m a bit surprised, the quality is astonishing, it is way sharper and has almost no chromatic aberration compared to the 18-270mm.
Good job! I agree that they are all awesome lenses, but what would be your ultimate kit without if any over lap for portraits, travel, sports and wildlife, etc ? Maybe come up with a couple different kit options? Thanks 😊
Love it! Curious why you recommend the Sigma 70 macro instead of the 105? The 105 is absolutely incredible and only $700 brand new but can be found near or below $600 regularly. Cheers!
Thank you friend Stefan, very pro your videos have helped me to select my lenses, i have in this moments Rokinon35mm 1.4 and Tamron 70-180mm 2.8, Maybe I could change to the tamron 35-150 but it hurts me to lose those 30mm, best regards
Hey i just bought the a7IV and i am a total novice at photography. I want to get good shots of my son playing in his men's leagues. Which of these would be the best for what i am trying to do?
If you already have a canon EF to Sony adapter I highly recommend saving money and getting the better tamron 17-35 instead of the more expensive 17-28mm that’s native, also those extra few mm out to 35mm make it much more versatile
I am so happy with Tamron's 17-28mm and 28-200mm, this duo has been great for a long time. I am ready to buy the Tamron 28-75 II for all you have said about it. Stefan, though you specialise in 3rd party, is there any comments on Sony's budget and lightweight primes as the 40mm f/2.5 which I am tempted to purchase? What do you think?
Hey thanks for the comment. That's a great combo indeed. I have not yet got my hands on the little primes long enough for review but they do look promising. For me I would want at least a F1.8 if I'm to supplement a prime with my F2.8's.
My Sony a7 IV just arrived with two lenses, Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN Art and Sigma 100-400mm f/5-6.3 DG DN OS Contemporary. From reading reviews and comments and checking pictures people shared they seemed like excellent combination for decent price. There is one issue, 100-400mm is not officially compatible with Sony a7 IV as per Sigma website and my real life experience. How did you (and anyone else who says they used it) get it to work?
@@zweiche I sold my 24 samyang 1.8 and sony 85 1.8 to shoot the sigma 24-70 and I don't regret it. I'm going to get myself an 85 1.4 or a 70-180 2.8 though for the long end. The 85 1.4 and sigma 100-400 route is also tempting, but the 70-180 seems like it could do both for me, than I could go for a 24 gm for low light shooting.
@@proksalevente ah nice , i got 24-70 gm2 for only 1 lens so far , when i paid for this ill look for either 16-35 for 70-200 still not sure which one as first :) probably 70-200 tho
Tamron 28-200 is great lens, but I always missed 24 on wide end. Switching lens made me to replace with 24105G. I'm really great about that change. Sigma 100-400 is almost ideal, but AF is not so good :( I got maybe 30% of sharp pictures of my running dog. Still, this is most lightweight from true telephotos lens choice. Good price.
Wonderful review. I added up all the lenses (which covers nearly every photography situation I can imagine, and there is some overlap of reach) which came to $9,900. I own some of the lenses listed. #7 Looks promising for what I am looking for, the Tamron 17-28mm. Thanks for taking this on.
That is going to be my 2nd lens for my first sony camera. Good alternative for the 16-35 GM? I rented one recently with a A7 mark 4 and omg I love that lens. 16mm is unusable unless you crop in but it’s incredibly sharp. I shoot mostly wide angle, what do you recommend?
@@mcintosh.motors depends on what your needs are. 16-35 is a landscape/travel/vlogger lens for smaller spaces. Complementing it with an 85mm 1.4 could be a great option. I really like shotting 24mm + 85mm, so it should be good, but the lens swapping is a bit annoying. That's why I bought a sigma 24-70, keep it on all day and shoot most stuff. Still need a prime for night stuffs though.
My collection of third party lenses is quite extensive. Mostly Sigmas and one Tamron. 12-24mm F2.8, 24mm F1.4 Sigma, 28mm F1.4 ( picked up for $500 new), 40mm F1.4 ($500 new), 85mm F1.4 (DG DN), 105mm F1.4, 70-180mm Tamron.
@@luisfilipelopes2900 Ebay Australia. I bought 28mm and 40mm from digidirect, they have a store front on ebay that often offer 20% discount on lenses. I dont think they ship internationally. I bought 40mm for aud764 and 28mm for aud799, that is about 480-507 in US dollar. I think they were chucking these lenses out at ridiculous price once toward the end of last year and March this year.
thank you for this beautiful video. Is there much difference in quality between Tamron 28-75 first and second versions? Do you recommend sigma or tamron for telephoto lens?
Very odd list. None of the fast Voigtlanders on here, of which there are three that are incredible. no Zeiss 21mm. No Sigma Art primes. Anyone looking for legitimate list of best third party Alpha lenses just read some Phillip Reeve articles.
Sony is very smart company. To walk on one level with beast like canon or nikon, they just give opportunity to alternative lenses company, and here you have, people buy more sonys cause here is nice and cheap lenses like sigma. But with mirrorless on canon or nikon for same quality of lenses client will pay x2 or x3. Great move sony!
Surprised no sigma 35 1.2. I know it’s heavy but in the used market it’s cheap for what it is. Plus it’s the only 3rd party 1.2. If I ever shot Sony then this lens is on my list. No matter the size that 35-150 would be my 1st. I dont even care if IQ wasn’t the greatest out there.
I have two questions about the Samyang 135mm, since you're one of the only reliable reviewers of it. How does it perform on the A7R4 vs the Sony 135mm GM? Would I be able to crop down the same amount with the same level of detail? And how is the autofocus speed vs the Tamron 28-75mm G2? Thank you so much for these reviews!
Only AF is stronger on the sony. If you don't shoot action, don't bother. Just check your samyang if it's well centered, if it isn't return it and get a new one.
@@proksalevente the lens quietly got pulled from all the online retailers here in South Africa a couple days after I made that comment, just before I could buy it. How odd haha. No official word from the distributor nor any response to my enquiries. Got the Tamron 70-180mm on black Friday instead since the Sony 135 was still far out of my budget, and I've been having fun with it so far!
You open with it’s not a professional quality lens, then say you can shoot portraits and landscape - people sell shots with this lens, absolutely. Ergo, professional. Optically perfect is a myth, anything is a professional lens in professional hands, at least that’s my take.
Zoom r Trash,…🤣 just kidding im a prime kinda guy small sharp well build that is the GM line up bought used gear u will never regret it after a view years might not loose any value if u take good care of it where w tammy and sigma they drop 20 to 45% after a view year
What are your favorite 3rd party Lenses?
Sigma 85 1.4 DG DN
Zeiss Batis 85mm 1.8
Viltrox 85 1.8ii
You have too many zoom Lenses on your list, my favorite (3rd? why not 2nd !?)) party Lenses are the Voigtlanthar APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical and the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 65mm 2.0 which have outstanding image quality and I love the manual focusing, I get much more sharpness where I want it than with my Sony GM prime Lenses !
I am missing the Tamron 70-180mm f2.8 in this list.
This is exactly my number one reason I ditched my EOR and purchased Sony A7IV. So many affordable third party lenses. Thank you for the video.
That's why me also detach from canon 5d m iv to sony a7iii because of short budget
Same man, recently sold my R and got the A7IV, but I need some lenses now. Bought a Tam 17-28 2.8!
Same
Same here
How about the tamron 70-180? :)
What about the 70-180 from tamron ?
Thanks for cool list mate.
I'd like to add my loved Sigma 14-24/2,8 DG DN Art. Super sharp even wide open, good AF speed.
I do really appreciate your help. I was actually going to buy lenses for my camera and doing a lot of research when I saw your video. And seriously it solved almost 85% of the problems. Both time and money saved.
Once again Thank You for your help with this video. And Best of luck for your videos.
Happy to help!
The three lenses that I use the most are all Tamron (obviously): 17-28 f/2.8, 35-150 f/2-2.8, 150-500 VC VXD. It's a brilliant three lens setup. As for lenses I don't carry often, I prefer the image quality consistency of the 28-75 G2 over any 24mm zoom I've ever shot... And I have shot most. If I need a proper 24, I'm going to a proper ultrawide angle zoom or prime for it.
I took 17-28 and 70-300 Tamron. Very good lenses
I just got Tamron 35-150mm and I can only say that it is an excellent lens. Probably the best all in one.
Will it be sharp for group portrait?
@@diahsuter yes
I am glad this episode exists
Loving the sony A7iv, but does anyone know what focus setting to use when I have multiple talking heads and want to show case an item? Camera keeps focus on the talking heads and not the item in front of the lens? Thanks
Impressive list, and yes, I think Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8 is the best lens in the world right now! Hope to own it in the near future.
It doesn't perform very well in direct lighting conditions, together with it's weight and price I went for the Sigma 24-70 instead. Now I just combine it with my 135mm GM and I have everything I need.
@@jeroenvdw Sounds solid to me.👌
I wanted this video SO BADDDDD TY SO MUCH !!!!!!!!!!
The 28-200mm from Tamron is a treat. But I’m not surprised, as I’m used to the 18-270mm for APS-C.
Ok, tbh, I’m a bit surprised, the quality is astonishing, it is way sharper and has almost no chromatic aberration compared to the 18-270mm.
Good job! I agree that they are all awesome lenses, but what would be your ultimate kit without if any over lap for portraits, travel, sports and wildlife, etc ? Maybe come up with a couple different kit options? Thanks 😊
#1 is really cool. Maybe add the 50-400 Tamron as well
The little girl is just so adorable!
Love it! Curious why you recommend the Sigma 70 macro instead of the 105? The 105 is absolutely incredible and only $700 brand new but can be found near or below $600 regularly. Cheers!
I just guess he doesn't own the 105mm, but I agree. Sigma 105mm macro > 70mm macro
Stefan, great, thorough video. Between the Sigma and Samyang 135mm 1.8 lenses, which one would you recommend? I have the A7R III.
Thank you friend Stefan, very pro your videos have helped me to select my lenses, i have in this moments Rokinon35mm 1.4 and Tamron 70-180mm 2.8, Maybe I could change to the tamron 35-150 but it hurts me to lose those 30mm, best regards
Happy to help!
the video i was looking for 🙌❤
Hey i just bought the a7IV and i am a total novice at photography. I want to get good shots of my son playing in his men's leagues. Which of these would be the best for what i am trying to do?
Mu setup:
Tammy 1728 2.8
SonyG 24105 4
Sigma 100-400
sony Zeiss 35 2.8
Sony 50 1.8
Sony 85 1.8
THIS VIDEO WAS AMAZING 🙏
It would be nice if you listed the lens names too, to make things clearer, and easier to find what we want to see.
If you already have a canon EF to Sony adapter I highly recommend saving money and getting the better tamron 17-35 instead of the more expensive 17-28mm that’s native, also those extra few mm out to 35mm make it much more versatile
I am so happy with Tamron's 17-28mm and 28-200mm, this duo has been great for a long time. I am ready to buy the Tamron 28-75 II for all you have said about it. Stefan, though you specialise in 3rd party, is there any comments on Sony's budget and lightweight primes as the 40mm f/2.5 which I am tempted to purchase? What do you think?
Hey thanks for the comment. That's a great combo indeed. I have not yet got my hands on the little primes long enough for review but they do look promising. For me I would want at least a F1.8 if I'm to supplement a prime with my F2.8's.
HOW did you get the peak design thingies through the holes?? I could not get them in at all and had to use the little flip things.
And the Tamron-70-180???
04:04 nice dog you have, always a good picture of him 👍🏼
My Sony a7 IV just arrived with two lenses, Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 DG DN Art and Sigma 100-400mm f/5-6.3 DG DN OS Contemporary.
From reading reviews and comments and checking pictures people shared they seemed like excellent combination for decent price.
There is one issue, 100-400mm is not officially compatible with Sony a7 IV as per Sigma website and my real life experience.
How did you (and anyone else who says they used it) get it to work?
are u still happy with a7 iv + sigma 24-70 or you would go different route if u could pick new right now?
@@zweiche I sold my 24 samyang 1.8 and sony 85 1.8 to shoot the sigma 24-70 and I don't regret it. I'm going to get myself an 85 1.4 or a 70-180 2.8 though for the long end. The 85 1.4 and sigma 100-400 route is also tempting, but the 70-180 seems like it could do both for me, than I could go for a 24 gm for low light shooting.
@@proksalevente ah nice , i got 24-70 gm2 for only 1 lens so far , when i paid for this ill look for either 16-35 for 70-200 still not sure which one as first :) probably 70-200 tho
cool 🔥
I was waiting for tamron 20 -40 mm.
Tamron 28-200 is great lens, but I always missed 24 on wide end. Switching lens made me to replace with 24105G. I'm really great about that change.
Sigma 100-400 is almost ideal, but AF is not so good :( I got maybe 30% of sharp pictures of my running dog. Still, this is most lightweight from true telephotos lens choice. Good price.
How do you turn on the autofocus if there isn't a switch?
In camera
You seem to like Tamron. I know this ranking is bound to be subjective. My number one is Sigma 14-24 DG DN. It is by far the best.
Have you done a review on the new samyang 135 1.8 AF?
You bet! Great next Gen lens from Samyang.
@@StefanMalloch whats your opinion on using it on a a6400 yay or nay?
Super Tamron 35-150mm F2-2.8 👍👍👍
Wonderful review. I added up all the lenses (which covers nearly every photography situation I can imagine, and there is some overlap of reach) which came to $9,900. I own some of the lenses listed. #7 Looks promising for what I am looking for, the Tamron 17-28mm. Thanks for taking this on.
What's the 2nd party?
no voigtlander?
Too niche for this list. I only really use manual lenses for macro personally.
Sigma 85mm ART 1.4 DG DN - Best lens i've used period, and I only buy GM lenses usually. Certainly far superior to the 85 GM
That is going to be my 2nd lens for my first sony camera. Good alternative for the 16-35 GM? I rented one recently with a A7 mark 4 and omg I love that lens. 16mm is unusable unless you crop in but it’s incredibly sharp. I shoot mostly wide angle, what do you recommend?
@@mcintosh.motors depends on what your needs are. 16-35 is a landscape/travel/vlogger lens for smaller spaces. Complementing it with an 85mm 1.4 could be a great option. I really like shotting 24mm + 85mm, so it should be good, but the lens swapping is a bit annoying. That's why I bought a sigma 24-70, keep it on all day and shoot most stuff. Still need a prime for night stuffs though.
My collection of third party lenses is quite extensive. Mostly Sigmas and one Tamron. 12-24mm F2.8, 24mm F1.4 Sigma, 28mm F1.4 ( picked up for $500 new), 40mm F1.4 ($500 new), 85mm F1.4 (DG DN), 105mm F1.4, 70-180mm Tamron.
Where are you buying your lenses?
@@luisfilipelopes2900 Ebay Australia. I bought 28mm and 40mm from digidirect, they have a store front on ebay that often offer 20% discount on lenses. I dont think they ship internationally. I bought 40mm for aud764 and 28mm for aud799, that is about 480-507 in US dollar. I think they were chucking these lenses out at ridiculous price once toward the end of last year and March this year.
So great video. Thank you🙏
Thank you!
08:35 enjoying portrait 🙂
thank you for this beautiful video.
Is there much difference in quality between Tamron 28-75 first and second versions?
Do you recommend sigma or tamron for telephoto lens?
You can kit out the entire Range below $3000, the price of 1 canon 28-70 f2
Very odd list. None of the fast Voigtlanders on here, of which there are three that are incredible. no Zeiss 21mm. No Sigma Art primes.
Anyone looking for legitimate list of best third party Alpha lenses just read some Phillip Reeve articles.
Not a prime in sight?
Thanks
Sony is very smart company. To walk on one level with beast like canon or nikon, they just give opportunity to alternative lenses company, and here you have, people buy more sonys cause here is nice and cheap lenses like sigma. But with mirrorless on canon or nikon for same quality of lenses client will pay x2 or x3. Great move sony!
I concur 👍
Surprised no sigma 35 1.2. I know it’s heavy but in the used market it’s cheap for what it is. Plus it’s the only 3rd party 1.2. If I ever shot Sony then this lens is on my list. No matter the size that 35-150 would be my 1st. I dont even care if IQ wasn’t the greatest out there.
It is an absolute beast you're right! It could have made it in for sure.
you are amazing
I have two questions about the Samyang 135mm, since you're one of the only reliable reviewers of it.
How does it perform on the A7R4 vs the Sony 135mm GM? Would I be able to crop down the same amount with the same level of detail?
And how is the autofocus speed vs the Tamron 28-75mm G2?
Thank you so much for these reviews!
Only AF is stronger on the sony. If you don't shoot action, don't bother. Just check your samyang if it's well centered, if it isn't return it and get a new one.
@@proksalevente the lens quietly got pulled from all the online retailers here in South Africa a couple days after I made that comment, just before I could buy it. How odd haha. No official word from the distributor nor any response to my enquiries. Got the Tamron 70-180mm on black Friday instead since the Sony 135 was still far out of my budget, and I've been having fun with it so far!
tqvm
You open with it’s not a professional quality lens, then say you can shoot portraits and landscape - people sell shots with this lens, absolutely. Ergo, professional. Optically perfect is a myth, anything is a professional lens in professional hands, at least that’s my take.
"10 BEST 3rd Party Lenses" ... How come Sigma 70/2.8 macro Art is in the list, but the superior Sigma 105/2.8 macro Art is not?... :(
2:10
A Ton of lenses ..Hope you make a Ton of money..A Ton of detail in your video..
Chapters are a bit off ...
TY!
Zoom r Trash,…🤣 just kidding im a prime kinda guy small sharp well build that is the GM line up bought used gear u will never regret it after a view years might not loose any value if u take good care of it where w tammy and sigma they drop 20 to 45% after a view year
You just shoot with zoom lenses man ??? 😂🤡🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
No.. there are several in this video.
Sony 24-70 1. Version vs tamr6 28-75 G ?
Thanks