IS ANTI ZIONISM ANTI SEMITISM? - ADNAN & JOSEPH - SPEAKERS CORNER
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May Allah destroy the enemies of the Deen.
Ameen
May Allah give them hidaya Ameen
Isaac Rowebotham no.. may Allah guide them
@ASIF I'DKISSROCK pfffttt wutt funny guy here
@@kierankelly288 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I cant even. 😂😂😂 Its so funny to see these snowflake christians act so delicate when they are happy to vote into power war mongers who make it openly clear that they want to kill thousands and millions of innocent Muslims. So I have no concern for people like that. Their fate is the same as those they follow/vote for.
that Jewish guy will never be satisfied with anything you said my brothers, so don't bother speak to him brother Hijab and others spoke to him with no progress
May be Allah will guide him someday to the right path.
People don't debate to convince the other person. They debate for the neutral spectators
@K everybody who is firmly convinced of a certain cause will never be persuaded by their opponents. especially when the point is winning the debate and appeal to the audience
I say shalom to my orthodox Jewish (not Zionists) cousins often and they reply in kind with a smile.
Walaikum salam brother. May ALLAH bless u. And Guide us INSHAALLAH.
I met a karaite jewes, and I thought she is a devoted Muslim, dressed with nikab like in Saudi Arabia, and she was using Quranic, Muslim, phrases, Alhamdullilah, inshAllah, etc. Subhan-Allah, then, she told me about Karaites in US, and similarities and closeness with Muslims and Arabs in general.
Be careful. So many Muslims will tell you that’s haram. (I disagree with them)
Salam to my people in Bangladesh 🇧🇩 (intro)
Salam to my people in marakesh
Not at all.
zionism goes against the principles of Judaism, which I've studied.
Judaism started with Zion Zionism
אש איש That simply not true.
@Johna High and where is Abraham buried israel
@@user-im3fc4kb2w palestine*
@@user-im3fc4kb2w Hebron, Palestine.
He always don't know when it comes to a sensitive subject about Muslims. ( Kashmir for Kashmiri ✊🏽 )
Yes man i am from india and all information he given about modi was correct
Astaghfirullah so all of that is true what a dark evil man.
Atleast you have a choice to go to a more welcoming country...
Rajan Bada what puzzles me is why they don't go an live somewhere that is under Islamic laws and regulations. Living under god rules can't be all that can it. 🤦♂️
@@kierankelly288 the game is to create once again an Islamic empire.... The west is falling
@@rajanbada3138 we are not guest here, stop pampering urself,i am more indian than you,i am indian by birth not by choice.and yes current situation is horrific in my country,you live under a rock or what.go and read some neutral indian news channel or any western media.and yeah also check the press freedom ranking of our country,there u will get ur answer of where ur radical mindset come from.
I'm a Muslim and I am from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Verily, my prayer, my sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah (swt). The Lord of the Alamin (6.162)
Lots of respect for adnan bhai from iok...
So cute IoK 😂 Bharat Mata Ki Jai!
As A Muslim Joseph Won This Debate/Discussion And Made Sense, Adnan Just Wanted Joseph To Condemn Certain People (Like It Makes A Big Difference) #Peace
@The Football State As A Muslim, It Looks Like Your One Sided 💯
"not at the expense of palestinians" this definition of zionism is so far away from the reality of how israel was established
He is living in denial or a fantasy world. the founding fathers defined Zionism with the central aim of ethnically cleansing Palestenians.
Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to self determination in their ancient homeland - land of Israel, based on the basis of a long Jewish connection and attachment to that land.
Zionism has nothing to do with Muslims or Palestinians.
That's the Zionist definition.
He said it scale matters. How about rocks against rockets what's the death toll
I disagree with Joseph on many points, but... he comes of reasonable - I wonder if that’s because he is out numbered? How would he be if zionists were the majority?
Good point
He would then take their land
no, he keeps characterizing the labour party as essentially antisemitic, even fascistic. have a look at the report he cited. of the supposedly thousands of cases of antisemitism it gives only a few specific salient examples. these are things like ken livingstone expressing approval for the idea that a possible solution for the trouble in palestine would be to place the israelis in america; livingstone refusing to apologize for that approval; the sharing of an article in which it's claimed that the idf taught certain techniques to american police. but because the report exists people trust its conclusion sight unseen. this person is blinded by ideology
Honest people will follow the truth in spite of everything, even if the majority is against them. I tend to believe that Joseph is a man of truth.
The truth is there regardless to its number of followers. it could be millions and it could be none.
I don't think it would matter to honest people who are following the truth, if they're the majority or minority, it's just not an indication..
@@sidarthur8706 That's not accurate re what Joseph has said., as Joseph has given lots of examples involving Jeremy Corbyn and antisemitism. There is no issue with Keir Starmer. It wouldn't surprise me if before Corbyn, Joseph was a labour voter.
Adnan: Are you a Zionist?
Joseph: Yes, 100%.
Adnan: Are you standing with the muslims?
Joseph: Yes.
Me: What the hell?
Isn't this guy basically no Zionist at all? Or maybe he is hiding it so strong to get us over his side.
@@LB_die_Kaapie
That's totally not what Rashid said. Listen to him again pls and stop being islamophobic.
You missed the point of this whole conversation. Listen to Adnan again
@@LB_die_Kaapie your ignorant zionest are terroist and they support Europeans stealing peoples land
@@yahya2925 that spike saying a nazi can help jews
@@LB_die_Kaapie actually jews are ignorant would you expect a nazi to be tolerant if jews
Josephs definition of Zionism is the same as Adnans. I will add the aim was to establish a majority and sovereignty of Jews with the expulsion of the local indigenous population. Benny Morris stated that transfer was inbuilt into Zionism and fear of expulsion was the chief motor of Arab resistance. There are different types of Zionism (Spiritual, religious, social, etc) What they are both defining is Political zionism.
Damn brother Ali, that loud voice of you guys scared the crap out of me. hahahahaaha!
oh I thought I'm the only one lol
“Smoking is haram” I’m deaddd😂😂😂
It is Makru not Haram...But According to health it is Haram...
@@mksyed9176 I think all madhahib now are classifying it as haram, but Im not so sure, since Im a non smoker, look it up for yourselves
I bet josephs not even got any semitic blood in him neways
If you practice Judaism then you're a Jew.Like if you practice Islam you're a Muslim.
@@jarez3781 not necessarily.
My friends dad is a convert to Judaism but many jews don't consider him to be a "real jew" because his mother wasn't Jewish.
So i guess it all depends who you speak to.
In the same sense
Just because someone prays 5x a day and fasts during Ramadan doesn't *necessarily* mean they're a Muslim if they don't actually believe in what Islam professes
@@TylerTheObserver I agree with a lot of what you said.I also have a friend who's daughter converted and got married to an Orthodox Jew and everything is fine but her brother was to much of a rebel and did not convert because of anger issues.In every race and faith there will be people have issues with converts or even converts who don't like everything they have to live by.Strange World.
@@jarez3781 I agree
The world is definitely odd that's for sure
Salam to all from Bangladesh
الله يحفظكم الشيوخ الدعاه وجزاكم الله خير الجزاء وفي ميزان حسناتكم جميعا انت فخر لكل مسلم.
So..Joseph thought Adnan was being anti-semitic and Adnan thought he was not. Just shows how subjective what constitutes free speech.
38:34 Ali Dawah 🤣
Subhan Allah Mashallah Allah Hoo Akbar
As you mentioned tge matter of kashmir in front of tge whole world. It was so tearful for me as we know nobody has ever done this before. Respect sir
VERY VERY VERY interesting talk
Thank you to brother Joseph and brother Adnan for open discussion
This was refreshing
Is talking against Isis islamophobia? No so talking against Zionism is not anti-semitism
Christopher Wells these people are khazar-s they arent even semites
Prays to the ONE and only creater
We must appreciate Adnan sir for his courage
Before jews lived in that land, before there was the religion of Judaism who lived in that land? Those people had no religion & you can't claim every single person who lived in that area accepted the religion willingly, there for it can't be Jewish land cause you found God, this whole planet belong to humans & MEN are evil it's that simple no matter the religion, & Jews don't want everyone to follow their religion cause they believe they're the chosen ones, where as it isn't same with other religions where you can convert. So already you'll get men who think they're better than everyone (chosen) & you get men who believe they found and they're believers of the one true God. Then you get leaders & people in power manipulating & empowering Men to do what Men does, commit evil against one another. This man is only trying to hold his Jewish people to a standard cause if you lot killing children and calling it part of the war then you're the same as Hitler & just like I have questions for the Muslims who has committed and is still committing outrageous EVIL killings of people. I'm also questioning humanity as a whole as we stand here and allow government to invade places like Iraq or allowing our kids to read 📚 about men turning to women, men and men $ex. I'm starting to believe that all these things was created by men in shadows/powerful 💰💰 & go to Africa you'll see People with unexplainable abilities. Some how we all think we got the answers but the people with the real truth of history are still out there
Well done Joseph a great lesson here love watching park debates
Joseph is pure evil
I should pay Joseph for the laughter he can create 😂
@Vito Anderson - Only bitch here is you sissy boy, now get back in the kitchen and make us a sandwich
his patreon is on his channel ;)
you cant miss it.
As a Muslim I'd like to commend Joseph on the way he conducts himself, he is really calm and polite, we can learn a lot from him. Adnan is a bit all over the place in this debate, jumping from topic to topic
The question is "Can you condemn him?" What does Joseph do? He decides to deflect.
Because he is pure evil
Beloved brothers, in this video you guys came off as misinformed compared to the zionist man. We're all imperfect! JazakAllah Khair
I love adnan I think he’s a smart and wise man but he is trying to force alignment between this young Jew and the Tommy R fans. Not right, he is obviously free from them. Sad to see
the way Joeph gets exposed at 29:55 had me rolling
United somalia.
1 somali 1 religion language
Before Zionism Palestine was peaceful, fact!
Sorry. Palestine never ever a State
@@Gabi-hv2xc Sorry, you're Wrong.
@@boxingmonthly Who was the Palestinian President or king ever?
@@Gabi-hv2xc What are you talking about ? Who has been living there for the last Millennium ??
@@boxingmonthly My dear friend, people lived there. Jews, than the Romans and other invaders and occupiers. It was renamed Palestine by Romans in place of Judea after the fall of Judea.
Check out raj in the background always in the wings waiting to put his two pence in
We jews going to stay with India 🇮🇳 🙌 forever ❤️
You hindu gai mata
*Quran 5:82* _”You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.”_
*John **8:44* _”You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.”_
*Revelation 2:9* _”I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”_
*Revelation 3:9* _”Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”_
This is the human filth that you are dealing with and no UN Security Council or government or all the propaganda in the world can change this fact.
you do know that Sura 5 was revealed 1400 years ago in Medina not 2020 in Hyde Park? Plz stop equating todays jews and christians with the ones mentioned in the Holy Qur´an. They are totally different ppl with different culture and customs. And this book is the word of the Almighty and should not be quoted to spread hate, this is far worse than what Hatun did with her quran.
Why is Joseph upset about the "not getting British humour" statement? If a group claims to be indigenous to elsewhere, insist they are separate, maintain exclusivity, segregate themselves its almost certain they wouldnt get the humour of the country they live in.
Many ethnic groups live in a place and segregate themselves. They may as well be foreigners in the country they live.
because it only makes sense when it's about Jews. he just tried to prove a point.
And yes you're right for Jews who never integrated . still there are Jews who fully integrated in English society, and this statement includes them as well. that's the definition of antisemitism.
@@hanna319 Jews are not Zionists and Zionist arent Jews. So, its not anti semitism. There are Nigerians who have lived for centuries in England and still dont get English humor. Gypsies who have lived for decaded in Slovakia and still dont get Slovakian humor. There are even Nigerian tribes who struggle with Nigerian humor. This is a fact and no elemnet of racism. The fact u live somewhere doesnt mean u understand all aspects of a culture. The British have been in Nigeria since the Slave Trade and still struggle with Nigerian humor. Do all Israeli Arabs get Jewish humor? Do they get holocaust jokes? Jokes about the 48, 67 war? No. For once stop playing the victim and get on with it!
@@hanna319 However, Jospeh has no valid point as he is insistent that British Jews are indigenous to the middle East. Its the norm for non indigenous people not to get the humor of areas they arent indigenous to. So, its not antisemitism. Except ur stating that British Jews are indigenous to Britain.
@@hanna319 No. Many non indigenous people dont get Bristish humor. I am British by citizenship, born in England but didnt grow up there. I have even lived longer in Britain than Nigeria. However, I still find step toe and sons difficult to understand its humor. In contrast, my white British friends are screaming with laughter while watching the same programme.
Joseph constantly wants to present Jews as victims. Its retrogessive. Dont fall into the same trap.
@@adegbengaogungeje5124 And you totally fail to understand Joseph's point, like Adnan.
"For once stop playing the victim and get on with it" - we kinda did. we have country now Israel. it doesn't mean we'll forget our past.
Adnan's evidence... "I read it in a book". That's it, nothing more. Just a book.
My fair opinion on this discussion is that Brother Adnan spoke for 80% of the time.
Without debate, tolerance, honesty and empathy we have nothing, if i was Muslim ide look at the middle east and be angry and might want to help, im not so get your finger of mi5s hotline lol, My friend at school 45 yrs ago went to Iraq/Iran to fight, I believe it was Iran but memory fades me on this, we hi school friends were amazed he'd had a weapon and fought, he considered it his duty and no one questioned it, today he'd be in prison for it, so it's been happening for decades and I can't see it stopping soon,not unless we all debate openly and honestly
I can’t believe people can threaten and in this conversation 4 people are saying they were scared of their life! Why people go to that extreme
As slam alayqm, dear Adnan it's my good luck to personally meet Shaikh Ahmed dedad at Jeddah, when we met him, I asked him about Dr. Zakir naik, he told me that Zakir naik is (Ahmed dedad +). I have seen your clips on u-tube. I must say you are (Zakir naik+). Alhamdolillah. I am from surat, India ( Ahmed dedad's town).
lmao. when Adnan kept telling Ali to get his book lmao,
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته نريد الترجمة من فضلكم بارك الله فيكم حتى تعم الفائدة والمتابعة
Adnan Rashid comparing Modi and Hitler 😂 Whats this guy on?
Modi was in the US on a major tour attended by countless thousands of people only six years ago. He was packing stadiums and even Trump joined him on stage on one occasion so how could he be banned from there?
The Muslim attitude towards Jews is reflected in various verses throughout the Qur’an, the holy book of the Islamic faith. "They [the Children of Israel] were consigned to humiliation and wretchedness. They brought the wrath of God upon themselves, and this because they used to deny God's signs and kill His Prophets unjustly and because they disobeyed and were transgressors" (Sura 2:61).
What does the book of Genesis calls Ishmael?? A wild ass of a man...His hands against every body and everyone's hand against him... That's the Anti Arab statement
The quote just states that the people of Israel angered God for breaking the commandments. This turns up over again in the bible, eg deuteronomy 9,7. The fact that prophets were put to death as false prophets also occurs in jewish sources. So if muslims are antisemites becoz of their scriptures, so are jews.
Jeremy Corbyn didnt say English Zionists. He said Zionists.
Adnan needs to stop interrupting , hard to watch
short answer : NO
Anti-semitism Is not Anti-zionism
I hear all the time the Bible says that, the Qur'an says this, but what does it actually say in the uncensored (original Babylonian) Talmud? There's a good reason for the censorship of this evil book. I truly don't understand how someone with common sense can befriend them.
0:15 Ali: no shouting
My ears: 👂🏼👂🏼🔊🤯
I'm a muslim. Joseph is spitting facts. Adnan is an embarrasment
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brothers call and give your time to does who are sincere. does who want do know the truth.
#roasted thank you Adnan
Salami salami bologna.
Satan hated Israel before Islam did - now that is interesting.
What is Josephs point? Many people including indigenous dont get national irony.
Corbyns statement was ' Having lived all their lives in this country, they clearly dont get English irony'
Even some English people dont get English Irony.
I think its racist. And I am a muslim leftist. The racism in the statement is blatant, you cannot deny it.
@@hanginggardenerofbabylon1046 Racism is the belief system that a particular race has specific qualities or characteristsics that privilege it or hinder it when compared to other races.
How does Jeremy Corbyns statement fit into the above definition especially since neither Jews, Zionists or British Zionists arent a race?
Does Joseph have a channel? Ask him next time and give him a shoutout cmon man !
Thanks
#kashmiri🙌🙌🙌🙌
Oh my brother😢🙏😠💪
That modi argument won’t work because the Saudis sit with modi so do the other gulf countries would brother Adnan accept that Saudi regime and other Muslim states that have friendly relationships with India and modi are islamaphobic? It also applies to turkey and Erdogan they have relationships with regards to trade with Israel does that make him islamaphobic? The rulers of Muslim lands should be the first to be accounted but people want to claim that we can’t do that. It’s a weak argument that can easily be debunked. Saudis gave Americans bases to attack Iraq? Trump in a press conference told us that Saudis will pay America and crown price was smiling lol. The Qataris and the Pakistanis have bases for the American army to attack muslims. So according to this logic netenyahu is the same as all the Muslim nation leaders and tbh many will agree maybe worse because the leaders in Muslim lands should know better.
When Adnan was talking about Netanyahu not saying anything about what India is doing and more over being with him is not something new as Imran Khan was doing a deal with China while muslim Uighurs are being prosecuted. While Arab rich countries are working with Israel and India and China while muslims are being prosecuted.
this guy is not even sincere.
meaning even if he knew islam is 100% right and jew were wrong he will not accept.
Why jews always have to scale human souffrance, it is Always like : oh no we suffered the most, no one suffered like us so muslims suffering is insignificant. Eternal Victimisation
Jews suffered the most, but that fact should not diminish other peoples suffering.
Why if islam revered moses as a profet they erased the 10 commandments given by God to him at the Sinai?
ماشاءالله تبارك الله شعار القناه جميل جدا 👋👋🤲🤲💐💐🌹🌹💞🌸🌸❤️
SALAM FROM BANGLADESH
Being anti-Islam is not the same as being anti-Muslim.
Sure it is. Muslims are followers of Islam. Zionism is not part of Judaism. Please don't amalgamate the two.
Can we please show respect to both sides for talking to each other without hate and with utmost respect?
Participate in the conversation not control it. Dont be so comfortable in yourself that you are not able to listen to a different point of view.
If you would like to see a shorter version for this video ua-cam.com/video/9Amp2wd99kI/v-deo.html.
Adman is totally exaggerating how bad Modi is. I will concede he was guilty of not doing enough to stop the attacks on Muslims in Gujarat when state minister, but to say he’s as bad as Hitler is huge distortion and nowhere close to reality. I agree that the new citizenship laws in India do seem to be specifically targeting Muslims.
Modi killed thousands of people in gujrat including ny friends family.
How is it even possible to support the state of Israël not at the expense of Muslims or palestinians ? Contradictive
Does Joseph condemn Avi Yemeni?
lol. Joseph IS Avi Yemeni. With a ginger beard
Is there anything as genuine dawah?
9:56
11:35
48:40
Joseph’s definition of zionism seems dandy but it doesn’t reflect reality..
yes it does. The state of israel exists and defends itself and has a right for both those things. Though the reality is that some people are specifically against only one country, Israel.
Obviously we’re right but we also got to stop just yelling “Islamophobe!” It’s a waste of time and contributes nothing to the argument.
Shoutout to Joseph
The Karen Armstrong school of Islamic thought Hahahahaha Oh Adnan please.
Adnans tactic. "If I keep speaking he'll never answer and I'll win the debate by default "
Why are so many comments hidden?
ياريت يصاحب المقاطع ترجمه لكي تعم الفائدة.
Adnan you should boycott these people.. the same way we boycott isis supporters. These people are worse
Absolutely hate the guy on the left who was at chingford just such a disruptive awful human
Doesn't Adnan ever shut up and allow other people to speak???
44:26 Pakistan not establish there relationship with Israel they don't recognize Israel.
Joseph seems a nice guy
yes, to everyone, including the far right which make up around 80% of his viewers. (at least in the comments)
13:04 bro😂😂😂😂😂
shalom to ALL Jewish cousins (Zionist and non Zionist)
In my opinion Jospeh is a good human being but he has a different understanding a different definition of being a Zionist. Maybe he dosent no the truth face of Zionism and what stands behind Zionism. By the way, im a Muslim. I wish somebody can ask him about the Talmud the book of the Zionists.
he, like all zionists are liars - manipulate the truth... ignore history..
34:00
what the ummah is doing?
Sleeping
Begging kufar to be love...
@@Joseph-wj1wr 😂😂😂
Making tik toks