Two sets of vocal muscles, lower and upper. Lower is your speaking voice. Upper we usually use to hold our breath (mechanically), like when we swim or 💩ing. Lower sound you tighten or flex your vocal muscles, until you start to sound like Steve-O... Yes like Steve-O. The over tone can be fun, first wedge the tip of your tongue down exposing the back of your teeth, and making a chamber with your mouth. Boom, low sound. The high sound, you are going to cough the first few times, because it will tickle. Like holding you breath, with light mussel control (like swimming and not 💩ing), pause your exhale, not stopping it hard, and breathe past. Boom, high sound. Overtone same as low sound. Practice vowels AEIOU. High A Low a Ect Ect...
I learned throat singing a few days ago, my teacher taught me how to cover my breath, making the structures get closer and then say "Hey" in a more active voice... by doing this I managed to learn.
A teacher that still is eager to learn is the best kinda teacher. I've always failed at maintaining a body mind connection to sustaining the 'zone', but hearing it from you who is obv more adept and in tune with vocal mechanics to distill and explain the process is what a lot of us need. So gonna spend 10 extra minutes in the bath tomorrow
I think the real-time anatomy of the vocal system (name?) is the most important thing that's helped me recreate sounds vs TRYING to achieve the sound with the wrong muscles. For instance, I always thought "false chords" were a type of scream, like vocal fry. But now I know it's not a technique, it's a part of your body, and knowing this has helped me extract the feelings from the muscles as I need them across different techniques. Really helps conceptualize and unite all the many parts that help my body to produce sound
I wish I had resources like this 15 years ago when I tried learning how to fry and false cord scream. It was way too much trial and error and sore throats until I figured out how to do it in a healthy way.
I used your course with Will and Elizabeth and advice from Melissa Cross emulating an old cat and maintaining my breath and it was like a lightbulb went off. And then muscle memory kicks in when practicing! My screams aren’t quite there but the feeling of healthy screams is important to me.
This stuff is the reason people hate it when i practice singing lol. No one likes to hear the ugly un finished voice. But they dont realize the payoff is huge. My family and coworkers will never think im a good singer. But im going to be successful regardless of their "if you cant do it right the first time, dont do it at all." Point of view
There’s a difference between can’t do it right the first time and can’t do it perfectly the first time too. Most people forget that distinction on top of things
belive in yourself! when I first learned harsh vocals I sounded like the average thrash bin and my sister would mock me for it, but yeah, I became pretty good at it I'd say
Learning to throat sing came really easy for me. The part I struggle with is breath control. Chris, you should listen to a band called Nytt Land. They do a TON of throat singing along with more viking-ish type music similar to Wardruna. They actually inspired me to learn. "U-gra" would be a perfect showcase of their abilities.
Thank you so much for the course with WIll and Elizabeth! I learned so much about my own voice and have more confidence making different types of agressive tones when I sing!
I've learned so much on your channel that even led me here. I was on the journey of screaming and sucked ass many ways and on a side quest learned throat singing and it was a gateway to the balance in my throat, and just learning to toss a little more air over it was where I found the screaming balance. It's cool to see you in that journey and it's something I figured out a while ago but still was stuck on but this still helped me more. I learned a ton off your videos before you even could scream that helped me. The throat singing thing threwme to the touch down. I love most about your channel how your break down the journey to sounds. Even the resonance your find in it teaches you the balance of breath. It's such a cheat.
Kargyraa! My favorite warmup/calibration exercise to use since going through your course with Will and Elizabeth! Also just super fun to do, just because 🤘
I learned it to make monster noises in Dungeons & Dragons, and my players love it! It has also inspired me to practice singing more, which has been great fun.
I learned this randomly while working in the dairy fridge at the grocery store I work at. I’m alone and somewhat autistic so this is the result of that 😂😂😂
Everything you described about the process of learning how to throat sing are thoughts and challenges I encountered when I started years ago. I got discouraged and I can only do the basics to this day because I thought I'd messed up and didnt want to hurt my voice over time. This is an excellent video rhat clears up so much for anyone who wants to learn how to throat sing. Alex Kuular was my online teacher.
I learned this last year by watching a few videos and practising regularly over a few days. What amazes me is how moving my tongue against the roof of my mouth helps manipulate the overtones. So much fun!
Actually "the best way to learn is to teach" is a fact. More importantly, if you want to take your singing deeper, do yourself a favor and join his free course. I tried it once and it really did free my voice! you will not regret it.
Thank you very much! Every time I’ve tried to learn this techique it has felt like I had scabs in my throat. This is the only tutorial on youtube that has worked for me! 🙏
Reminds me how everything has a natural resonant frequency. As an industrial tech I know that every bearing has a RF. If you strike it with a hammer you can record it's RF and set a variable frequency drive to skip that frequency in very high precision/speed applications, otherwise it will sort of self destruct if it's run at it's natural resonance.
Pretty helpful! I've just trained a few seconds and I'm almost there! You can tell you're a real teacher when you say that, you still discovering the process helps new learners understanding it.
I've always been able to throat sing without tutorials, it just was a natural thing for me, but I have been struggling with fry screaming. Thanks to this, I did my first fry scream by utilising the throat singing and I am going to work on improving it as much as I can. Thank you, Chris
I just watched your Kim Dracula video and accidentally figured out how to throat sing when you were talking about it there, but this really helped refine it
So I've been through the Ramos course, i do some screaming that's pretty good in my own opinion. I would say youe first advice with the vocal fry does work, but i feel like you should have stated some more facts about why it works. Beginners might get the impression that vocal fry and ventricular folds are related somehow. They're not, but just like other vocal techniques it's just that it can be used to bridge a gap you might not have known how to cross otherwise. Vocal fry should not even be considered when practicing throat singing, unless you truly can't activate those vibrations without going from the vocal fry register, in which case that should be the first thing you practice. Also there's the whole "fry screaming" term. I feel like it should also be clarified that vocal fry and screaming are very seperate things.
Best video on how to do this!! Thank you, Will, for teaching Chris, and thank you, Chris, for putting it into an easy to follow video. I'm going to be working on it.
4:10 the reason for that, as i described in my longer comment, is that u dont actively make ur FALSE vocal folds vibrate, they just pic up the vibration/airflow of the true folds while they are drawn close but hold lax----then u can do it at any pitch cuz they r just reactive----if u cause their vibration urself, it is at a specific frequency, so the constructive interaction of the vibrational waves which causes the acoustic effect only happens if YOU happen to use a pitch with ur true vocal folds thats double the frequency, and therefore this "entry point" is different for different people
Hey. For a moment I though you were talking about normal subharmonic as throat singing x) because you talked about fry. I then understood that you were actually talking about false fold sub👌. Anyway if you wanna talk about (mostly bass techniques) singing techniques I have a lot to say about it. It may also interest you because it might help for what you're trying to do.
This is so interesting because going from fry into kargyraa was actually a distraction when I was learning. It’s cool to see how you got there in the way that made sense for you!
I've tried to learn how to do this but could not find very many resources. Thanks for this explanation! If you want to see this used in a metal performance my favorite is the live version of Gojira - The Way of All Flesh. He throat sings beginning the last section of the lyrics to emphasize the passing between worlds and transitions to screams. Very powerful and emotional!
So I actually started throat singing before I got into singing, and the way I learned to unlock it was by whispering. So you make a whisper sound like you normally would and try to imagine you're pushing a wall and really start trying to feel that sensation. After a few tries it happened and of course it didn't feel naturally at first and when practicing in the beginning I couldn't stop coughing a lot but that stopped after a while. Throat singing is an amazing experience to me.
Again you hit the spot for me, man! Much love! I'am a screamer who knows how to do the throat singing (you should check some of the bass sounds in beatboxing!!!) However it was a mystery for me how the throat singing realtes, how it transitions to screaming. I've got a new hope now, it clicked for me and i'm pretty sure I'll get it! Thank you!
First thing I learned to do on my first Album. it's extremely useful for also seriously saving your vocal cords some seriously unneeded and potentially harmful fry's and screams. The BEST way to imagine this, is through a Tibetans hum and a Vikings Growl. a mental effort is key to learning first to avoid any damage.
I don't know why I had to learn this but after watching this had to give it a shot. Driving to work and back was perfect training time and I got it in two weeks. I wasn't sure what I was trying to achieve but after I first time got the sound I knew that was it and from there it has been lot easier. Trying to make words now :)
Chris, you should check out Fair to Midland for great examples of throat singing. Fables From a Mayfly is an incredible album. Darroh is such a fantastic singer, and it breaks my heart that the band no longer exists.
As a smoker, I started experimenting with breathing techniques to find the most efficient way to smoke without damaging the lungs. I found I could almost "close" my throat using my epiglottis, and breathe out in a very slow, tranquil kind of way that keeps the smoke flowing while also being soothing and automatically relaxing me. I later saw a video that basically taught me a technique for throat singing that uses that exact method I use for smoking. I've accidentally learned how to throat sing in this way! It's not something I've tested too far yet, but the growling kind of tone has been easy to get to so far, and this breathing technique means I can go for much longer than I would normally be able to, since I'm breathing so much slower. I can't remember fully, but what they said was that you're trying to make TWO spaces for the sounds - one in the back of your throat, where the epiglottis creates that low sound, and then you use the "cavern" of your mouth to form the overtones. I dunno, this is all coming from someone who barely knows anything about throat singing but it definitely made sense to me. Hopefully by commenting it I can help others! Fun fact - this breathing technique is also amazing for smoke rings! Eventually when you get to the point where you can breathe out with your mouth open, but the smoke fills your mouth without leaving it, all you have to do is make the movement with your tongue and you get perfect smoke rings. I will admit that *that*, I have a lot more practice with :3
Hey it's me again. You could experiment with grit singing in that type of distortion where you push up with the throat singing and get into a more "fry-esque" - "static, gurgly" sound. Just gotta hold on to the true fold engagement while keeping that static grit. That is how I sing most Avenged Sevenfold songs and I believe it is what M. Shadows is doing with his grit. Maybe you could do a new video on him with your newly acquired knowledge. Would love to see it!
I could certainly do more of it... and actually have a video coming out where I'm doing it over a Kim Dracula song!! :) !! I started to experiment with what you're talking about towards the end of THIS video too!
Knowing I had access to this module months before its release is really cool. With throat singing growing in prevalence, do you think you would ever have the HU on? I noticed its helped my deathcore vocals tremendously.
Hey, Chris! Have you ever heard of the band too close to touch? Their singer Keaton Pierce passed away not that long ago and they're gearing up to release the last few songs using previous recordings of him In my eyes he's one of the most inspiring singers out there, with a really unique voice and approach to singing that I'd really like to see your opinions on
Two sets of vocal muscles, lower and upper. Lower is your speaking voice. Upper we usually use to hold our breath (mechanically), like when we swim or 💩ing. Lower sound you tighten or flex your vocal muscles, until you start to sound like Steve-O... Yes like Steve-O. The over tone can be fun, first wedge the tip of your tongue down exposing the back of your teeth, and making a chamber with your mouth. Boom, low sound. The high sound, you are going to cough the first few times, because it will tickle. Like holding you breath, with light mussel control (like swimming and not 💩ing), pause your exhale, not stopping it hard, and breathe past. Boom, high sound. Overtone same as low sound. Practice vowels AEIOU. High A Low a Ect Ect...
Thanks for this :-) I got the courses you did with Will and Elizabeth recently, and I've been practicing my throat singing (mostly on my drive to work). I've been struggling to find a way to disengage my true chords without dumping a ton of air like you mentioned. I'll try playing with the methods you mention here :-)
Should check out the throat singing in the song “Vinternatt” from the modern metal band Mayfire! It’s somewhat inspired by the northern Scandinavian natives. 🔥🤘
I hope someday you do a react & vocal analysis of Shaman - Fairy Tale (rituaLIVE) or the studio version too. Even though I don't watch your videos to improve my own voice (at least not yet) it's fun to watch, keep up the excellent work and good luck in everything.
Glad to see this! I experimented years ago with throat singing but then left it. Then I tried it again last year and did more to the point where its comfortable and throat singing is part of my warm ups now every time. For me it really help me connect a lot of the grit into cleans and what not.I had the easiest time finding the spot following a traditional Mongolian tutorial using the 'goat' sound. I also think sub-harmonics are under utilized and although similar they feel completely different and I know using both really helps. Although I don't use them on their own the techniques has really help gain a better understanding of all forms of distortion. Great video and I hope it helps a few people!
Chris! Wanted to say I’ve been singing for the better part of my life and just took the plunge to get more technical. Your tutorials are so insanely valuable, thanks for that! Question, when I use this technique my head seems to resonate best a couple of semitones lower than yours, at F# precisely, is that just something I need to settle with or is it better to force it higher up? Where I have it now feels most comfortabel, but the main goal is to eventually take control of my false chords and I am struggling severely with this at the moment 😂
Actually used it in a song years ago. I don't remember how I stumbled upon that technique but I know we where goofing around and laughing that I sounded like a robot. Never mastered the harmonics, though.
I surprisingly learned this technique several years ago via beatboxing naturally by imitating other beatboxers. Then I saw the last bit of the video where I pushed the pitch higher. I managed to get it down first try.
so sweet, yea throat bass (kargyraa throat singing) is really fun but as a beatboxer who knows what we are cooking youd be shocked at whats actually possible with the human voice
This type of throat singing sounds like a sub style that is called kargyraa. It is however a modern form with a different technique than the original. I appreciate the attention that is given to this art form with this video, but it is a very 'western' approach to it. I would recommend learning from people who practice or have studies tuvan/mongolian throat singing.
Interesting process. Really like the explanation. I found these sounds a few years ago through trial and error. The real noticeable feelings for me is when i can feel the sound source go from entirely in my throat, and start resonating in my nasal cavity (when I start throat singing proper). You can hear it in your voice too so i wonder if you get the same feeling? then goes down lower than my throat, kinda top of chest, when going into growling. Not sure if that is "correct" but i can do it reliably without pain for long periods and it sounds cool 😊. Anyways, thanks for the demonstration and thoughts!
At the end of the video when you were taking it to higher pitches, was it actually becoming a form of Fry Scream? Cause it sure sounded like a fry scream especially on that EE vowel around 8:43 that you did! Would love to know your thoughts! Thanks again Chris!!
here I am back to singing, hoping to try some new things and @chrisliepe is here to guide me through with his elaborate and clear explanation, what a channel, thanks for everything
It's so fun and inspiring to watch you figure this out for yourself! I think I can do the throat thing at the comfortable sweet spot, but as I try to go higher up, it starts to tickle my throat. I think this is a sign of too much tension in the throat and not enough support?
This is interesting. I look forward to trying it when I can resume singing. By the way, what keeps this technique from sounding gritty and gurgly like Will Ramos' extreme vocals in his cover of Chokehold, where he goes to a death metal style around the middle of it for a few seconds? This is using false folds, right?
Man I need a guide on going from throat singing to proper false chord sigh type shtuff. Been trying to make it work for years, have been doing kargyraa with ease for like seven and could never get FC right. Im gonna cover the entirety of Hybrid Theory in throat singing before I figure it out in the next 8 years. The regular barking routines make me put pressure on true folds or, if I don't, they don't sound right (the vocal folds making distortion by air blowing through them like that ruins anyones voice in minutes, so that's no way of doing things). Should I just reconsider genres at this point?
This now reminds me of King 810 kinda. I'd like to see you analyze his vocal style, especially in songs like Kill'em all, Boogeyman, but also check out songs like Devil Don't cry, and State of Nature. Hits hard, and thank you! 🤘
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Two sets of vocal muscles, lower and upper.
Lower is your speaking voice.
Upper we usually use to hold our breath (mechanically), like when we swim or 💩ing.
Lower sound you tighten or flex your vocal muscles, until you start to sound like Steve-O... Yes like Steve-O.
The over tone can be fun, first wedge the tip of your tongue down exposing the back of your teeth, and making a chamber with your mouth.
Boom, low sound.
The high sound, you are going to cough the first few times, because it will tickle.
Like holding you breath, with light mussel control (like swimming and not 💩ing), pause your exhale, not stopping it hard, and breathe past.
Boom, high sound.
Overtone same as low sound.
Practice vowels AEIOU.
High A
Low a
Ect Ect...
Look how excited he is when showing off his stuff.
It's why i say... You're the best teach!
I learned throat singing a few days ago, my teacher taught me how to cover my breath, making the structures get closer and then say "Hey" in a more active voice... by doing this I managed to learn.
A teacher that still is eager to learn is the best kinda teacher. I've always failed at maintaining a body mind connection to sustaining the 'zone', but hearing it from you who is obv more adept and in tune with vocal mechanics to distill and explain the process is what a lot of us need. So gonna spend 10 extra minutes in the bath tomorrow
I think the real-time anatomy of the vocal system (name?) is the most important thing that's helped me recreate sounds vs TRYING to achieve the sound with the wrong muscles.
For instance, I always thought "false chords" were a type of scream, like vocal fry. But now I know it's not a technique, it's a part of your body, and knowing this has helped me extract the feelings from the muscles as I need them across different techniques. Really helps conceptualize and unite all the many parts that help my body to produce sound
I wish I had resources like this 15 years ago when I tried learning how to fry and false cord scream. It was way too much trial and error and sore throats until I figured out how to do it in a healthy way.
I used your course with Will and Elizabeth and advice from Melissa Cross emulating an old cat and maintaining my breath and it was like a lightbulb went off. And then muscle memory kicks in when practicing! My screams aren’t quite there but the feeling of healthy screams is important to me.
You should listen to the masters of Tuvian throat singing. The beautiful overtones of it is simply incredible
This stuff is the reason people hate it when i practice singing lol. No one likes to hear the ugly un finished voice. But they dont realize the payoff is huge. My family and coworkers will never think im a good singer. But im going to be successful regardless of their "if you cant do it right the first time, dont do it at all." Point of view
U kept up the practice?
There’s a difference between can’t do it right the first time and can’t do it perfectly the first time too. Most people forget that distinction on top of things
So true….it happened to me learning the piano, guitar, flamenco, bass, (clarinet got the most ugly response!)
You can do anything
belive in yourself! when I first learned harsh vocals I sounded like the average thrash bin and my sister would mock me for it, but yeah, I became pretty good at it I'd say
I just replicate the GRrrrrrr sound Sideshow Bob makes when he steps on all the rakes.
Learning to throat sing came really easy for me. The part I struggle with is breath control. Chris, you should listen to a band called Nytt Land. They do a TON of throat singing along with more viking-ish type music similar to Wardruna. They actually inspired me to learn. "U-gra" would be a perfect showcase of their abilities.
Thank you so much for the course with WIll and Elizabeth! I learned so much about my own voice and have more confidence making different types of agressive tones when I sing!
I've learned so much on your channel that even led me here. I was on the journey of screaming and sucked ass many ways and on a side quest learned throat singing and it was a gateway to the balance in my throat, and just learning to toss a little more air over it was where I found the screaming balance. It's cool to see you in that journey and it's something I figured out a while ago but still was stuck on but this still helped me more. I learned a ton off your videos before you even could scream that helped me. The throat singing thing threwme to the touch down. I love most about your channel how your break down the journey to sounds. Even the resonance your find in it teaches you the balance of breath. It's such a cheat.
Kargyraa! My favorite warmup/calibration exercise to use since going through your course with Will and Elizabeth! Also just super fun to do, just because 🤘
I learned it to make monster noises in Dungeons & Dragons, and my players love it! It has also inspired me to practice singing more, which has been great fun.
love your transparency and openness.
I just tell people to do "the motorcycle sound" - that hits the spot.. - Vrom vrom =)
Bro I couldn’t for the life of me find it until this comment. I think I’m in love with you
THANKS A TON BROSKI, i have been trying for so long and this just helped me avoid a world of vocal cord trauma
I learned this randomly while working in the dairy fridge at the grocery store I work at. I’m alone and somewhat autistic so this is the result of that 😂😂😂
holy crap!!!! I got that in like 2 seconds, hahaha!!!! Amazing! Now, the months of working out all the kinks and working with it. Right on! My man!
Everything you described about the process of learning how to throat sing are thoughts and challenges I encountered when I started years ago. I got discouraged and I can only do the basics to this day because I thought I'd messed up and didnt want to hurt my voice over time. This is an excellent video rhat clears up so much for anyone who wants to learn how to throat sing. Alex Kuular was my online teacher.
I learned this last year by watching a few videos and practising regularly over a few days. What amazes me is how moving my tongue against the roof of my mouth helps manipulate the overtones. So much fun!
I enjoy it especially as a warmup, throwing it and resonating it in different places and it really helps with the distortions!!
The timing of this release is really funny, as I had JUST found this technique myself while singing in the car on the way to work about a month ago! 💚
Wow this actually helped me! First time ever! It’s really not as much force as I expected, it’s a really relaxed sensation!
Actually "the best way to learn is to teach" is a fact. More importantly, if you want to take your singing deeper, do yourself a favor and join his free course. I tried it once and it really did free my voice! you will not regret it.
You shred Chris, keep killin it brometheus!
This method is perfect for learning fry and false cord scream mix.
I've hit a few hybrids accidentally and they feel and sound SO good. Gonna try this so I can get them on purpose!
Thank you very much! Every time I’ve tried to learn this techique it has felt like I had scabs in my throat. This is the only tutorial on youtube that has worked for me! 🙏
The genuine interest and time this man takes to perfect his craft is legendary
Reminds me how everything has a natural resonant frequency. As an industrial tech I know that every bearing has a RF. If you strike it with a hammer you can record it's RF and set a variable frequency drive to skip that frequency in very high precision/speed applications, otherwise it will sort of self destruct if it's run at it's natural resonance.
Pretty helpful! I've just trained a few seconds and I'm almost there! You can tell you're a real teacher when you say that, you still discovering the process helps new learners understanding it.
I've always been able to throat sing without tutorials, it just was a natural thing for me, but I have been struggling with fry screaming. Thanks to this, I did my first fry scream by utilising the throat singing and I am going to work on improving it as much as I can. Thank you, Chris
I just watched your Kim Dracula video and accidentally figured out how to throat sing when you were talking about it there, but this really helped refine it
So I've been through the Ramos course, i do some screaming that's pretty good in my own opinion. I would say youe first advice with the vocal fry does work, but i feel like you should have stated some more facts about why it works. Beginners might get the impression that vocal fry and ventricular folds are related somehow. They're not, but just like other vocal techniques it's just that it can be used to bridge a gap you might not have known how to cross otherwise. Vocal fry should not even be considered when practicing throat singing, unless you truly can't activate those vibrations without going from the vocal fry register, in which case that should be the first thing you practice.
Also there's the whole "fry screaming" term. I feel like it should also be clarified that vocal fry and screaming are very seperate things.
this is the best throat singing video online
Best video on how to do this!! Thank you, Will, for teaching Chris, and thank you, Chris, for putting it into an easy to follow video. I'm going to be working on it.
4:10 the reason for that, as i described in my longer comment, is that u dont actively make ur FALSE vocal folds vibrate, they just pic up the vibration/airflow of the true folds while they are drawn close but hold lax----then u can do it at any pitch cuz they r just reactive----if u cause their vibration urself, it is at a specific frequency, so the constructive interaction of the vibrational waves which causes the acoustic effect only happens if YOU happen to use a pitch with ur true vocal folds thats double the frequency, and therefore this "entry point" is different for different people
I watched your video this afternoon, and before bedtime I was able to get the technique down! Very exciting! Thank you!
Hey. For a moment I though you were talking about normal subharmonic as throat singing x) because you talked about fry. I then understood that you were actually talking about false fold sub👌. Anyway if you wanna talk about (mostly bass techniques) singing techniques I have a lot to say about it. It may also interest you because it might help for what you're trying to do.
This is so interesting because going from fry into kargyraa was actually a distraction when I was learning. It’s cool to see how you got there in the way that made sense for you!
I was about to suggest exploring throat singing and there you go reading my mind again!
This helped me find the vibrations I was missing for my growls.
The best way to learn is to teach... great!
Such a good explanation I’ve never been able to do this either and I’m getting it right away with this explanation!!
this was so much fun!! thanks for this video! these 10mins helped me more than months of videos before :D
Phenomal explanation!
Chris always explains best. Thanks for the video❤🔥
I've tried to learn how to do this but could not find very many resources. Thanks for this explanation! If you want to see this used in a metal performance my favorite is the live version of Gojira - The Way of All Flesh. He throat sings beginning the last section of the lyrics to emphasize the passing between worlds and transitions to screams. Very powerful and emotional!
The best way to learn _is_ to teach!
Nice idea about the personal resonant frequency.
So I actually started throat singing before I got into singing, and the way I learned to unlock it was by whispering. So you make a whisper sound like you normally would and try to imagine you're pushing a wall and really start trying to feel that sensation. After a few tries it happened and of course it didn't feel naturally at first and when practicing in the beginning I couldn't stop coughing a lot but that stopped after a while. Throat singing is an amazing experience to me.
Again you hit the spot for me, man! Much love!
I'am a screamer who knows how to do the throat singing (you should check some of the bass sounds in beatboxing!!!)
However it was a mystery for me how the throat singing realtes, how it transitions to screaming. I've got a new hope now, it clicked for me and i'm pretty sure I'll get it! Thank you!
First thing I learned to do on my first Album. it's extremely useful for also seriously saving your vocal cords some seriously unneeded and potentially harmful fry's and screams.
The BEST way to imagine this, is through a Tibetans hum and a Vikings Growl. a mental effort is key to learning first to avoid any damage.
I don't know why I had to learn this but after watching this had to give it a shot. Driving to work and back was perfect training time and I got it in two weeks. I wasn't sure what I was trying to achieve but after I first time got the sound I knew that was it and from there it has been lot easier. Trying to make words now :)
Chris, you should check out Fair to Midland for great examples of throat singing. Fables From a Mayfly is an incredible album. Darroh is such a fantastic singer, and it breaks my heart that the band no longer exists.
I wish everyone could have a will ramos at home :-D such an inspiration "I'm so proud of you" omg I need this as a ringtone
As a smoker, I started experimenting with breathing techniques to find the most efficient way to smoke without damaging the lungs. I found I could almost "close" my throat using my epiglottis, and breathe out in a very slow, tranquil kind of way that keeps the smoke flowing while also being soothing and automatically relaxing me.
I later saw a video that basically taught me a technique for throat singing that uses that exact method I use for smoking. I've accidentally learned how to throat sing in this way! It's not something I've tested too far yet, but the growling kind of tone has been easy to get to so far, and this breathing technique means I can go for much longer than I would normally be able to, since I'm breathing so much slower.
I can't remember fully, but what they said was that you're trying to make TWO spaces for the sounds - one in the back of your throat, where the epiglottis creates that low sound, and then you use the "cavern" of your mouth to form the overtones. I dunno, this is all coming from someone who barely knows anything about throat singing but it definitely made sense to me. Hopefully by commenting it I can help others!
Fun fact - this breathing technique is also amazing for smoke rings! Eventually when you get to the point where you can breathe out with your mouth open, but the smoke fills your mouth without leaving it, all you have to do is make the movement with your tongue and you get perfect smoke rings. I will admit that *that*, I have a lot more practice with :3
Yes!! Throat singing is how I originally discovered you 🙏🏼🎉
AWESOME!!!
5:01 you got dangerously close to getting canceled
I exploded at this comment
I paused for a while and came back to that part and thought the same lmao
really like your emotions in process:)
I've never quite managed to get the hang of this either - I'm gonna try try try!
Thanks master!
Hey it's me again. You could experiment with grit singing in that type of distortion where you push up with the throat singing and get into a more "fry-esque" - "static, gurgly" sound. Just gotta hold on to the true fold engagement while keeping that static grit. That is how I sing most Avenged Sevenfold songs and I believe it is what M. Shadows is doing with his grit. Maybe you could do a new video on him with your newly acquired knowledge. Would love to see it!
I could certainly do more of it... and actually have a video coming out where I'm doing it over a Kim Dracula song!! :) !! I started to experiment with what you're talking about towards the end of THIS video too!
@@chrisliepe Love to hear it. You're making a lot of progress very fast. I'm looking forward to your new videos!
Thanks for that, this has been working for me. I really appreciate what you do. \m/
Knowing I had access to this module months before its release is really cool. With throat singing growing in prevalence, do you think you would ever have the HU on? I noticed its helped my deathcore vocals tremendously.
Hey, Chris!
Have you ever heard of the band too close to touch? Their singer Keaton Pierce passed away not that long ago and they're gearing up to release the last few songs using previous recordings of him
In my eyes he's one of the most inspiring singers out there, with a really unique voice and approach to singing that I'd really like to see your opinions on
Very interesting! Trying it right now!
Two sets of vocal muscles, lower and upper.
Lower is your speaking voice.
Upper we usually use to hold our breath (mechanically), like when we swim or 💩ing.
Lower sound you tighten or flex your vocal muscles, until you start to sound like Steve-O... Yes like Steve-O.
The over tone can be fun, first wedge the tip of your tongue down exposing the back of your teeth, and making a chamber with your mouth.
Boom, low sound.
The high sound, you are going to cough the first few times, because it will tickle.
Like holding you breath, with light mussel control (like swimming and not 💩ing), pause your exhale, not stopping it hard, and breathe past.
Boom, high sound.
Overtone same as low sound.
Practice vowels AEIOU.
High A
Low a
Ect Ect...
I can't believe I could do it! Amazing!
Thanks Chris! Excellent content!
Thanks for this :-) I got the courses you did with Will and Elizabeth recently, and I've been practicing my throat singing (mostly on my drive to work). I've been struggling to find a way to disengage my true chords without dumping a ton of air like you mentioned. I'll try playing with the methods you mention here :-)
I appreciate these videos infinitely sir 🤘
Should check out the throat singing in the song “Vinternatt” from the modern metal band Mayfire! It’s somewhat inspired by the northern Scandinavian natives. 🔥🤘
I hope someday you do a react & vocal analysis of Shaman - Fairy Tale (rituaLIVE) or the studio version too. Even though I don't watch your videos to improve my own voice (at least not yet) it's fun to watch, keep up the excellent work and good luck in everything.
Glad to see this! I experimented years ago with throat singing but then left it. Then I tried it again last year and did more to the point where its comfortable and throat singing is part of my warm ups now every time. For me it really help me connect a lot of the grit into cleans and what not.I had the easiest time finding the spot following a traditional Mongolian tutorial using the 'goat' sound. I also think sub-harmonics are under utilized and although similar they feel completely different and I know using both really helps. Although I don't use them on their own the techniques has really help gain a better understanding of all forms of distortion. Great video and I hope it helps a few people!
Got it. Thanks
2 words. Game..changer
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Chris! Wanted to say I’ve been singing for the better part of my life and just took the plunge to get more technical. Your tutorials are so insanely valuable, thanks for that! Question, when I use this technique my head seems to resonate best a couple of semitones lower than yours, at F# precisely, is that just something I need to settle with or is it better to force it higher up? Where I have it now feels most comfortabel, but the main goal is to eventually take control of my false chords and I am struggling severely with this at the moment 😂
Actually used it in a song years ago. I don't remember how I stumbled upon that technique but I know we where goofing around and laughing that I sounded like a robot. Never mastered the harmonics, though.
I surprisingly learned this technique several years ago via beatboxing naturally by imitating other beatboxers. Then I saw the last bit of the video where I pushed the pitch higher. I managed to get it down first try.
so sweet, yea throat bass (kargyraa throat singing) is really fun but as a beatboxer who knows what we are cooking youd be shocked at whats actually possible with the human voice
This type of throat singing sounds like a sub style that is called kargyraa. It is however a modern form with a different technique than the original.
I appreciate the attention that is given to this art form with this video, but it is a very 'western' approach to it. I would recommend learning from people who practice or have studies tuvan/mongolian throat singing.
Interesting process. Really like the explanation. I found these sounds a few years ago through trial and error. The real noticeable feelings for me is when i can feel the sound source go from entirely in my throat, and start resonating in my nasal cavity (when I start throat singing proper). You can hear it in your voice too so i wonder if you get the same feeling? then goes down lower than my throat, kinda top of chest, when going into growling. Not sure if that is "correct" but i can do it reliably without pain for long periods and it sounds cool 😊. Anyways, thanks for the demonstration and thoughts!
The maniacal laugh at 9:04 had me chuckling
3:24 perfect H. Jon Benjamin impression
best laboratory of vocal)
Reminds me of learning how to growl on the saxophone
Id love to see will and spencer collab on something.
At the end of the video when you were taking it to higher pitches, was it actually becoming a form of Fry Scream?
Cause it sure sounded like a fry scream especially on that EE vowel around 8:43 that you did!
Would love to know your thoughts!
Thanks again Chris!!
Yes. I was experimenting with that upper constricted sound!
This has been the best instructional video I've seen so far. Question I wonder if you can use continuous breathing like with a didgeridoo?
At one point you sounded like vegeta and i just love it ❤
here I am back to singing, hoping to try some new things and @chrisliepe is here to guide me through with his elaborate and clear explanation, what a channel, thanks for everything
I thought it sounded like Corey literally 1 second before you said "like what Corey Taylor might do" hahaha
Thank youuuu
It's so fun and inspiring to watch you figure this out for yourself! I think I can do the throat thing at the comfortable sweet spot, but as I try to go higher up, it starts to tickle my throat. I think this is a sign of too much tension in the throat and not enough support?
This is interesting. I look forward to trying it when I can resume singing. By the way, what keeps this technique from sounding gritty and gurgly like Will Ramos' extreme vocals in his cover of Chokehold, where he goes to a death metal style around the middle of it for a few seconds? This is using false folds, right?
Yep!
I only feel falsechord not fry
And I would say it sounds relatively good.
Lol i was just putting this together myself and now your video pops up haha
I can overtone throat sing, too.
Man I need a guide on going from throat singing to proper false chord sigh type shtuff. Been trying to make it work for years, have been doing kargyraa with ease for like seven and could never get FC right. Im gonna cover the entirety of Hybrid Theory in throat singing before I figure it out in the next 8 years. The regular barking routines make me put pressure on true folds or, if I don't, they don't sound right (the vocal folds making distortion by air blowing through them like that ruins anyones voice in minutes, so that's no way of doing things). Should I just reconsider genres at this point?
Ha, I had always done this to mimic throat singing, I didn't realize that I was, y'know, actually throat singing.
This now reminds me of King 810 kinda. I'd like to see you analyze his vocal style, especially in songs like Kill'em all, Boogeyman, but also check out songs like Devil Don't cry, and State of Nature. Hits hard, and thank you! 🤘