STOP doing this with your LARYNX (I'm begging you) It's killing your voice...
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- The rules don't apply to your voice like you think they do. And what you are doing with your larynx while you sing is likely messing your voice up big time without you fully being aware! Free Voice Lessons: chrisliepe.com/free-your-voice/
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Basically, do whatever you want and pay attention to comfort/pain. It it doesn't feel right during or afterwards, try to access that tone a bit differently, play with it. The only way to gain experience is through trial and error, just don't make those errors permanent :)
Paying attention to comfort/pain takes as much concentration as paying attention to larynx position tho. Like, I can’t both sing & do either of those without tensing up and losing the flow, checking in with my body signals/pain/comfort cues etc takes deliberate effort that distracts me from trying to sing relaxed
@@Xanderj89 I didn't necessarily mean like, being actively aware all the time while singing but more like be aware how it feels, if it hurts or it doesn't feel right, your body is telling you something. You are not going to forcefully sing through pain and discomfort, right? You don't need any special awareness and attention to feel discomfort.
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This is exactly how I’ve taught myself both singing and screaming. When I was a teenager there wasn’t countless vocal coaches teaching ppl how to scream. It was all trial and error along with backing off whenever something hurt.
What I love about this is that the emphasis is on the feeling rather than the specificity in the technique
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@@chrisliepe you’re awesome Chris thanks for this
Good lord this is so contrary to what I learned in classical voice but it's so much better.
The idea that lowered larynx position prevents vocal strain was never, ever true for me, even after years of classical training and performance.
Oh, and freeness results in the effortless sound of these artists, if not truly effortless singing.
Yea, used to hate hearing this open throat/sixed lower larynx thing spread by vocal teachers all across youtube like 5+ years ago. Did nothing to help me sing higher, and probably made things worse. This is among the best things i've learnt from your course.
Thanks for all you do chris.
Which course?
you have no clue how helpful these videos have been for me over the past 3 or so years
By far the most legit Vocal coach inYT
Honestly, as a huge Sleep Token fan I had the best vocal progress by trying to cover Vessel’s singing. I once heard that you have to open up but reaching the tones in between is really hard that way. And it is even harder to support them. I am glad that at the point where I wanted to be able to sing their songs specifically, I noticed that all those things you often hear do not necessarily work for me to get the sound I want, I just decided to do anything that feels good and that lets me reach the notes. Oftentimes i would even get sore when focussing too much on anything else than just the quality and position of the note. I am also glad to see you support this point as well.
So many people will say to throw out or modify elements of vocal technique because they make money by telling people what they want to hear, even if it hurts them. I love how effortlessly and sincerely Chris explains really complicated physical concepts and how, exactly, what he is suggesting is supposed to FEEL like and *may* help you as a vocalist instead of just saying “this is what singing looks and sounds like and if you simply do this that makes you a good singer.”
Been a little over a year since I found this channel and I’ve managed to sing some pretty crazy shit thanks to how these videos have helped me learn to explore my voice on my own. Thanks Chris!!!
What I love about listening to vocal coaches is how you put into words what a lot of us singers do without any thought to it at all. In my first band, I'd never taken so much as a single singing lesson. I was never in choir or anything like that. I just sang along to my favorite records. I would simply try to emulate the singers I loved the best I could without any formal training. Obviously, I would occasionally bump into these walls or barriers I couldn't overcome until I really worked at it. I remember struggling through Judas Priest's "Screaming for Vengeance." Those notes and screams seemed impossibly high. So I would just keep at it until I could do it. I am a baritone with some tenor range and was always struggling to sing Steve Perry, or Bradley Delp and those singers who sang really high. But I just kept working at it, even though these guys were technically singing "out of my range." But you know what? I can sing some of that stuff. Even today at almost 59 years of age, I can still do all of that and I'm done with the whole band thing. I still play guitar, write and record music and all of that. Just no more band stuff. It takes way too long to prepare to perform and there's no reward in doing unless you do it just for the love of it. There's not a lot of money in it anymore. Anyway, the point is, I did things like floating my larynx and didn't even know I was doing that. So thanks for helping me understand what I'm doing from a more technical way of looking at it.
haha i was definitely taught the traditional way. I felt bad when I sunk into the emotion of a song and started moving my larynx..thought i was doing something wrong even though it felt so right. this is good news
Best vocal coach ever
Can't say I've heard anyone say to keep the larynx fixed. Then again you're really the only one I watch for vocal instruction cause of the honest approach to not knowing it all, and the variety of vocal things you not only teach but demonstrate. Also cause I self learned almost all the harsh stuff and have just been working on cleans for a while.
So I've had a good teacher.
Well done, larynx needs to stay flexible, not rigid.
The first example that's where my passagio tends to sit.
The other one is a nice octave slide from D4- E4-D5-B4-C5-A4(mix to head/take me past the edge/right through all passgio notes).
Awareness of break point region, (the notes) in your voice is important imo without being afraid of them, thus makes it easier to transition without or less tension (without chest pulling).
After tons of mixed voice/head voice strengthening training you get what you are talking about.
The result is what you are showing, the mindset is reached and the voice releases without tension. Very good stuff Chris.
It finally clicked who you sound like. Matt Bellamy in Muse!
That felt really good to practice along with - thank you!
I love so much how you thoroughly explain shit. Not even as artists, i believe as people, we need to know the ‘right way’ to make mistakes. We know there isn’t, and each person’s journey is different, but it’s incredibly reassuring when you show us the behind the scenes of the weird, strange, ‘the fuck’ sounds of how our favorite epic moments came to fruition. Thank you 🙏🏻
So good! This is such a key. The way you explain and demonstrate how to grasp these important treasures really takes your voice to new heights.
I had constant strain until i started doing laryngeal massage, once that strain went away my range got expanded in both directions and my speaking voice has a way richer tone. It was shocking how much of a difference it made. If you struggle with brightening/darkening your sound I recommend looking into SAFELY massaging the muscles around the larynx
As someone who did a lot of metal vocals back in the day (screaming particularly), I used my larynx to get much lower growls and brighter more "gobliny" sounding highs. Because I had to worry more so about my air control and pronunciation/enunciation rather than the exact note, it was far easier to keep it in a consistent position to the point where it became second-nature. Cause' you are going for a "low growl", you position yourself for that "low growl", add the air, and sound out the lyrics. Long and short of it is that for screaming, your larynx position is much easier to be kept in check as you are going for a specific pitch, raising the position a bit or lowering it a bit becomes more easier because you aren't "singing" a specific note.
I think it definitely depends on the type of vocal you are doing.
This is Gold for any level of singer ! Thanks Chris .
This is great advice, well described and with awesome examples. You are a very good teacher!
Thanks for this golden nugget brother! I've been trying to figure this out too, like probably most people. Keeping the larynx down all the time seems so restricting. Let it float!
Good one! Accepted wisdom needs to be considered--and questioned--in most earthly endeavors (not just singing). Seems to me that if something works, and it's not doing damage to your voice, it's probably okay. Contemporary singing is not conservatory singing, just as playing B.B. King is not playing Bach on your six-string. Love that you worked in the John Fogerty example. In his prime, he was a killer singer who worked hard at perfecting his craft by listening assiduously to himself and proceeding intuitively. I'd be interested in hearing more of your analysis of Mr. Fogerty's style. Thanks!
Moving your larynx around and going with the feel instead makes things more interesting. I've always found myself mimicing singers while singing one of their songs. I've never thought about where my larynx is or what its doing. I just go by feel and sound.
this is why you are the best chris. So many vocal coaches teach techniques that they learned from their teachers and keep on passing misinformation. they have never experimented with their own voice like you have and actually figured out how to sing.
I love it when you sing, Chris, nice one as always.
Very insightful and useful! Really liked it!
I love watching you do vocals because I can tell you really love it, I relate to the feeling 🤘🏽
I hope you cover more topics relating to larynx's!
Just watching this video taught me I can do a lot more than I even imagined
Awesome teaching, thank you 😊
Thanks once more, Chris! =D
As always, learning a lot from you ❤
This was a great help brotha, thank you
I Love how you inform and teach on these videos, they help me massively to always give my best performances.
The tips with headphone mixes have help me hugely in my recordings also.
Huge thanks! and keep up the great videos!
What's funny is... I have been doing this naturally ever since I started singing in 2007. 😅
...and yes, I _have_ been told by puritans that it's "bad technique" and "you SHOULD NOT be doing that". But, I don't listen to puritans.
Also, Bob Seger. 🖤
Your commentary on his singing has made my morning. Ya can't go wrong with Bob Seger. Old Time Rock 'n Roll, and Night Moves are two of my favourites of his.
Very insightful!
Always deep insight from Chris. The trick for singers is technique and rest!
You are the best! Thank you so much for your job and for your videos! ❤
You are so welcome!
Awesome video chris, and i think you should do more videos for people who were trained classicaly trying to get into contemporary vocals and this is a problem ive heard a lot, blind melon video soon? ❤
I should do a blind melon video at some point... YES... thanks for watching my videos! I do have a whole course that's aimed at 'un-training' parts of the classical approach to free yourself into a more contemporary style. It's called Discover Your Voice and you can request an invite to it at chrisliepe.com if you're interested :) Take care!
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN!!!🤩🤩🤩,YOU'RE AMAZING
As someone who is more traditionally trained i love your videos. you give me new ideas and ways to think about my voice and it has really helped me start to find my own voice. I would love more videos about the differences of traditional singing and more modern/contemporary singing.
At the end Chris you said "let your larynx follow the posture of your mouth" and it sort of sounded like layne staley. I assume that was something he did just effortlessly but im still striving for that wicked vibrato style
yes absolutely and great observation! Layne was a master at letting his larynx float with his tone shaping and various stages of energy!
@@chrisliepe so cool! Thanks for your consistent and insightful videos my friend.
Man！after a year of watching your video .ive already master most of methods of singing !thx!!xxoo
@chrisliepe Dang Chris! What an amazing voice!! You are like a nimble vocal ninja! 🙌
this video is also what I needed at this time ..
HUGE Video Bro!
Dude. You’re an absolute savage. 🫡
gonna have to sign up for the basics.
think I need to put up some bass traps in my makeshift recording room.
the recordings of myself im trying to learn from have too much room boom that won't eq out.
I love it😘 ur da best coach ever
Hey chris! You should definitely analyze Dax Riggs' amazing voice in projects like agents of oblivion! Endsmouth is a great one!
I think it’s undoubtedly valuable to learn how to manipulate your larynx just because it builds strength in those muscles and will allow you to make all sorts of sounds without strain. But that’s the same for alllllllll the many exquisitely placed muscles all along and through your vocal tract. For heaven’s sakes, even my eyeball get involved sometimes lol. We should explore, discover, strengthen, and learn to control the entire voice (torso, larynx, tongue, soft palette, jaw, mouth, lips, cheeks, eyes …. The whole kit and kaboodle) and not just focus on keeping the larynx in some mythical magical position. We all know that sometimes there’s a song with a sound/pitch/tone/distortion that we just can’t get unless we clench our hand or tap our foot or whatever odd twitch we do 😂. Singing is a full body sport. So very well demonstrated. Great examples !!
@chrisliepe I was watching your reaction video to Sebastian Bach in Skid Row's "Wasted Time," and thought you explained things really well. Then I watched this video and that got me to subscribe. EXCELLENT thoughts on larynx position! Going back to Sebastian for a sec...He and I went to the same vocal coach, the great Don Lawrence. (Vocal God, as Sebastian credits him on the album.) Anyway...Don and I were talking one night about the different "positions" things needed to be in to vocalize properly. Like you, he wasn't big on any "fixed" position anything should be in. He would say..."Do you worry about it when you talk? Then don't worry about it when you sing." Now, this was 30 years ago, so I don't know if he's changed his perspective since then. But...at that time anyway, he convinced me to not worry about it. And you just reaffirmed it. Thanks! Subscribed and looking forward to more informative content from you. 👍👍
Thanks for sharing this! That's cool that you got to train with the same coach as Sebastian... WOW... And YEP... the "do you worry about it when you talk?" is golden perspective... not just for larynx position!
Hi! Big respect!
Mr.C.L.!
Very interesting there is always something new and something special about vibration I never thought that a couple of sounds could consist of so many thingsIf I may quietly suggest a lesser known band in Europe? They are the Bridge City Sinners. I'm very curious to see how the singer's voice is presented to you. (text, beat, tone, etc.) good job! greetings from Hungary thank you very much!
Chris's videos only helped me superficially until I allowed them to do what he designed them to do- shift the perspective. I used to think I was born with a "naturally bad" voice. Once I started seeing it as "I don't naturally pay attention to the right things when making sound from my mouth" that's when I realized I could work past the "acceptable" point that I was stuck at for so many years and actually become a good or even great singer depending on the amount of work. Technically "sound from your mouth" is your voice, the two are the same, but the profound difference is in the perspective. The voice, as I saw it before, wasn't something I was able to change. Until you make that shift you may be stuck like I was. No other singing coaches think to offer this change of perspective- probably because they themselves were born naturally paying attention to the right things. That makes Chris is a true pioneer imo.
THIS !!!!! YOU GOT IT !!!!!
It helps knowing your lyrics at the same time fr
Thanks: Mayby this not only helps me, but only a good friend of me?
Thank you so so very much !! I'm a guitarist and I've been singing for years but I've not had any vocal lessons .
Yay I love My Chemical Romance ! So thank you for this really helpful video !
Okay , not being tense is very important in playing guitar too! Awesome to hear Sleep Token too :). You sing the high notes beautifully !!
I agree, but some people really have to learn to float cause they are always pushing larynx up when singing up
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Ive been doing my own Liepe challenge the past month 🙌
What's the Liepe challenge?
@@JonathanTKL Just making sure I go through the warmup he does and then going through the videos and working on diferent things, Trying to do it almost every day
I think this finally explains why I don’t like listening to most Christian music. The tone and the way they sing everything the same way through the entire song bothers me.
Brook fraser from my home NZ ..now brook ligertwood of hillsong united who also feature taya smith singing oceans rise or spirit lead me that went "viral"
lauren daigle ...some dynamic voices to try ❤
I think that the problem with this approach is that you only go for the feel good kind of singing but it can often be misleading. A clear example is that it feels much easier for some singers to whisper than to "push" with the right support and the aritenoids in the right position but if you do it long enough, it's actually more dangerous for your vocal health. If I lift a weight using the right technique, the next day I might be sore but if my training is sustainable I will be totally fine, despite the thing feeling hard and even painful the next morning. If I softly brush my hand for the same amount of time, it might feel great in the beginning but I'll have blisters the next morning and nothing good out of it. The concepts in the video are great for someone who already has a good amount of control and some technical knowledge on how their voice works but someone in their early years or being self taught might hurt themselves because they don't have enough tools to fully grasp the depth of the concept. Not a big fan of this tbh as it might do some damage
The "might do some damage" part of what your saying is brought on, not by using this approach, but by not being mindful and just plowing into your voice when you don't yet have the right techniques developed. It takes, pacing, budgeting and paying attention in a big way! This is how I walk people through this approach in my course: Teaching what to feel, how to feel it, and giving you specific practice guidelines so that you don't overdo it while you're learning to feel.
Don't do anything very long in the beginning stages. Short, mindful increments are the way to go regardless of the approach. Same with weights. You BUILD sustainable training through being attentive to the feedback your body gives you... AND you learn to listen to that feedback (something you can't do in the beginning)
@@chrisliepe I believe that someone that works with you directly will have no problem in that regard. I worked with a coach for 15+ years and I would recommend anyone to find a good coach they can trust like yourself. But this is not a private video only accessible to students that have you to guide them through the process. This is free and public. Someone might think that "just feel good" is the right way to sing and you don't really need guidance, even if it's not the intended message here and I hope you understand why this might be the actual case here. I'm not talking about people being dumb and completely misunderstanding a free video, I'm talking about some advanced concepts being shared with people who may or may not have a background that allows them to understand what you actually mean in this video. For myself, I'm glad I watched this, as I think that it's valuable information that I can use but I can also see some people making an improper use of this and, again, I'm not talking in a general sense that could apply to any kind of information, I'm talking specifically about something that is not going to be used at the right time and in the right context like someone going through a course/program. I see this as "lesson #100" without the need to go through #1-#99 like one of your students might do instead
@@MarcelloAntestaco It might get glossed over by some, but at the beginning of this video and at the end... I tell people to join my free course to get a better handle on what I'm saying and why I'm saying it. My other resources provide the full picture. My end goal with every video I put out is to stoke curiosity and exactly give "step 100" so that people are curious about what the other steps are! I give this invitation, (even stated as a warning in some videos) at the beginning and end of every single video I put on UA-cam. You can't deliver the full picture in one video or even in a dozen videos of the step by step process for building your voice. But you can in an interactive course setting. The message of this video is NOT: "if it feels good do it" ... It certainly doesn't stop there. If it feels good, lean into it and experiment with it. don't just take what anyone SAYS is "right" and not test it. This can be just as damaging as leaning into a sensation you don't fully understand because you continue to push into something that doesn't feel right, but someone told you to do it, so you keep doing it and then mess something up. I've seen this happen WAY more times than the other way around. Every single professional, touring vocalist I've worked with over the past several years as learned with the "sensation first" mentality. And there's a reason for it. There is danger and risk in anything.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Chris can you react to I prevails singers I wanna know the break down on how to do it and I feel like you'll be a good person to do so :D
Nah I just injured my vocal cords, by forcing them too much power with too much air pressure, now I have this Vocal cord swelling, It got hurt after my training session. Now it's for 2 days, and I'm using salt water gargle and today I used home hot steaming, + the straw method, and some lipbuzz I think it's going to disappear I hope so, I feel no pain, just on mix middle ranges I get this raspy airy sound. But the injury was my fault I overdue the training, and the notes. Next time I don't push myself over my edge.
Also can you react to this singer on a video please? Dimash Kudaibergen - SOS d'un terrien en détresse
I'm curios to your reaction, because you're one of the vocal coaches I watched the most in these 5 days of my singing journey.Also he's one of the best singer in this planet, if you don't saw him yet, He's going to SHOCK you what he's capable of with his voice and performance.
My teacher is more on the "don't over rely on it for certain pitches and don't stick to extremes"
I get like that when I'm singing inflame I the mask album his vocals sometime are so high lol but I adjust my self to my own vocal tone lol and its kinda harmizibg with him hahaha its actually fun since why sound like someone else when your voice is your own 🤘
You da man!!
I find by going brighter even in lower range like C3 the larynx flattens. In contrast to doing the classic crooner baritone the Adam's apple bulge appears.
What happens when going bright with the flat larynx, in the lower ahh vowels is, the position of the larynx does not change moving tords the B4
I overthink this every day
Да, дядя Крис. Люди стараются получить "ровный тембр по всему диапазону". И в попытках этого достичь блокируют и фиксируют свой аппарат. Упуская из виду тот факт, что этим аппаратом надо активно регулировать для достижения "ровного тембра"
Yes!!!
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Hey Chris- I really enjoy a band called Avatar that I think you should check out. Their songwriting is highly unique, and Johannes Eckerstrom has a very unique voice and is also a master of distortion. I think you would enjoy checking them out. I recommend starting with Bloody Angel, Colossus, and The Dirt I'm Buried In if you don't already know the band. Cheers- SteelSpartan753
your voice is insane my wife sitting next to me gobsmacked ..
This 🙌🏼
holy shit this is so contrary to what i've heard ... but thank you
EDIT; wouldn't you say you need to know how to sing with a lowered larynx before you are able to take advantage of having it move around?
You're so welcome! with regards to your question: ... NO! haha... Enter each engagement you have with your voice from a place of absolute freedom with no "shoulds" attached. Be free and accept what ever comes while you're exploring the possibilities. Lean into what FEELS good and don't worry about sounding good or try to sound a certain way. If you START here... sounds and other sensations will reveal themselves to you (if you are non judgmental) and you'll discover all those things you were previously striving for with no success. I help you begin this journey in my free course linked in the pinned comment and continue this journey with you in my full courses!
@@chrisliepe Whoooo thanks Chris! I will check it out :D :D
for some of their heavier stuff, please check out ONE OK ROCK - 3xxxv5 Take Me To The Top LIVE specifically the one with green haired Taka(vocalist)
Hey chris, been a fan of yours for a while now, I have a question and would love if you know the answer for it.
I used to support my voice by pushing inwards, but hitting notes near my vocal break feels hard and unnatural, I could go way up and way down easily.
Here's the kicker though, I recently started supporting my voice by pushing OUTWARDS and DOWN, singing never felt easier and it seems that I can hit any note I want to with easy and great tone, no pain or tension near my throat, but I'm feeling tension in my chest. What do you think about that. Would lovr if you could answer, much love❤.
Thanks for watching and enjoying! Don’t think inwards or outwards. Just let your stomach do whatever it wants. Just think DOWN. And then focus on experiencing facial resonance. Join my free course linked in the video description for more exercises and details on how to dial it in !
Is it possible to violently move your larynx up and down in a healthy way? I’m asking because as a future singer, I want to be the next Pete Seeger to a certain extent, but with the ability to mimic his technique in a healthy way if possible. Other singers have inspired other aspects of the voice I aim for such as ability to sing different vocal timbres and voice types while still being a natural baritone.
What's the name of the second song after MCR's Helena? Let me guess the third is by Chris Cornell.
I have few questions. Learning how to sing is one thing, making distorsions is another thing, using different types of distortions HEALTHILY is something else, not to mention the matery level of distortion so a singer may powerful distortion techniques by wasting less stamina on stage. Is that clear so far? Did I get it right? If so, is it possible for all learners to use distortion with such precision as well as Ado and Sébastien Croteau?
It is! With the right mindsets and approaches!
@@chrisliepe Right, so there's no statement saying that most great rock vocalists reach, let's say, 60 % or 75 % while rare prodigies are able to reach 99,98 % for instance, right?
@@neelo821 If there is a statement like that, it's a dumb statement and should be ignored. :-) Some people do stumble on things more naturally than others, but the falsehood that many people cling to is that if it doesn't come naturally, it doesn't every come at all. This things can be practiced and honed and learned. I'm living proof. Just go watch/binge all my distortion and screaming videos and see how much I've learned and put in my voice that wasn't there before and you'll see! I'm learning every day too!
@@chrisliepe I made up that statement as an exemple. 🙂 Thank you for the clarification.
You should make a reaction of "life is full of dreams" by sheena ringo. Sheena ringo is an absolute legend i would appriciate if you react to her aswell.
Does throwing the resonance back from a forward-placed ‘dying cat mix’ lower the larynx Chris? Is that how you thicken the mix tone?
most of the time, throwing the resonance back creates a raised larynx. letting the larynx float lower while in mix as well as experimenting with compression can thicken the mix tone!
@@chrisliepe thanks!
i think the good singer don't even think about what they're doing they just sing it
been stuggling with a weird buzz/distortion thing in my left ear for a few months, that only happens when singing loud/high.. Anyone know what it could be?
Always can hear Buckley controlling his larynx. I wonder if he was doing it on purpose?
He doesn’t control it. It’s the opposite of control. He just lets it do whatever as he pursues dynamic character, placement and resonance. He never thought about what his larynx was doing or what it should be doing
@@chrisliepe so he never practiced or learned how to sing? Just lucky? I know one should just do all of this in practice then don’t think about it live. For me it seems he knew some technical things, cause he has this yawning effect, covering maybe? He seemed to know stuff. I know he went to o musicians institute but he just says it was a waste of time, perhaps he was being facetious
bro I don't even know what I'm doing with my larynx guess I'm fine lmfao
I finally learned that power comes from the mouth, sounds come from on top of your voice box , not within or below
Power actually comes from your support system! NOT from the mouth. Sound is shaped with the vocal tract, including the mouth. Our voice box only vibrates, so sound originates there, but is not shaped!
@@chrisliepeI’m trying really hard to understand this but I always end up overthinking and hurting my voice. I do push from the diaphragm area in the way you explained, and I try to do all the stuff like compression distortion and everything from on top of my vocal cords not cookie monster-ish but after a couple belts- agressive vocal attempts I end up feeling like I should stop.. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong because I follow everything you said, as well as the free vocal course. Am I trying too hard??
"Should, shouldnt, bah. BAH!" lol golden moment
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Ya man, I went to a My Chemical Romance concert and he had no voice. It was such a waste of money and time and I never bought anything from them again. By contrast, I went to a Billy Talent concert and that lead singer had all the goods on display and he sings high and growls. So buddy from My Chemical Romance is losing his voice, and that tells me I shouldn't listen to you because you are advocating for his nonsense vocal technique.
@chrisliepe awesome. David bowie ziggy stardust comes to mind. His larynx is all over the map