Necrophagist: The Search For Muhammed Suiçmez

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  • @justin.hombach
    @justin.hombach 8 місяців тому +692

    Damn some of the BMW employees were rude…
    You know who is not rude? Me, when I‘m trying to teach you speedpicking…
    So you better check the link in the description box :P

    • @cannibalfan01
      @cannibalfan01 8 місяців тому +36

      Masterful ad pivot

    • @apendica
      @apendica 8 місяців тому +15

      @@cannibalfan01 "segue to our sponsor" levels

    • @xiphos0274
      @xiphos0274 7 місяців тому +10

      That was smooth lmao!

    • @failuretolaunchdrums
      @failuretolaunchdrums 7 місяців тому +20

      BMW: shit employees, shit product. Checks out.
      Speculating… He may have worked there for a period but if he’s really a skilled automotive engineer there’s so many opportunities available other than BMW…

    • @Omar24Music
      @Omar24Music 7 місяців тому +2

      They don't even indicate which direction the conversation's going!

  • @nescaudrummer
    @nescaudrummer 8 місяців тому +1707

    Necrophagist third album is the Half Life 3 of music

    • @justsomedude5727
      @justsomedude5727 8 місяців тому +34

      The winds of winter of music

    • @simonp9471
      @simonp9471 8 місяців тому +53

      HL2 and Epitaph released the same year! Except we did eventually get Half-life: Alyx, so Valve is in fact more reliable then these bands 🤣

    • @gozutheDJ
      @gozutheDJ 8 місяців тому +4

      lmao

    • @tattoodan4277
      @tattoodan4277 7 місяців тому +16

      More like the Jazz jackrabbit 3 of music (anybody else even understand this reference that began all the way back in the MS-DOS era of PC with a sequel in the windows 95/98 architecture era!?!?)

    • @planecrazybuilder4234
      @planecrazybuilder4234 7 місяців тому +5

      And tf3

  • @d.minor_dissonance
    @d.minor_dissonance 8 місяців тому +941

    We should leave the man alone, also break into his house and steal the mighty necrodrive 😭😭

    • @yungcrisisactor
      @yungcrisisactor 8 місяців тому +129

      Based and diminished pilled

    • @JobForAMaxboy
      @JobForAMaxboy 7 місяців тому +190

      Diminished To (E:)

    • @batastrophic9762
      @batastrophic9762 7 місяців тому +49

      if Mohammed has another "Diminished to..." song on the necrodrive, but its not as good as Dimished to B, would you call that diminishing returns?

    • @leavingweakness9927
      @leavingweakness9927 7 місяців тому +41

      The NECRODRIVE…. That’s awesome 👏

    • @punxsutawneyphil3944
      @punxsutawneyphil3944 7 місяців тому +25

      No, that's illegal! ...Lets do it!!!

  • @ochaorobert1
    @ochaorobert1 7 місяців тому +588

    It's incredible that after 19 years after their last album, we are still talking about Necrophagist. 💕

    • @MrShadowflasher
      @MrShadowflasher 7 місяців тому +26

      This is the undeniable proof that Necrophagist is immortal, because it touched so many people.

    • @MetalDeathHead
      @MetalDeathHead 7 місяців тому

      its good but not that good, beneath the massacre is much better@@MrShadowflasher

    • @athraxis
      @athraxis 7 місяців тому +42

      @@MetalDeathHead this is an incorrect opinion

    • @MetalDeathHead
      @MetalDeathHead 7 місяців тому

      No its not, BTM is much better in every way, necrophagist isnt even technical in comparison.@@athraxis

    • @metalsadman
      @metalsadman 7 місяців тому +20

      @@MetalDeathHead lol

  • @nickfoster9350
    @nickfoster9350 8 місяців тому +717

    I had the privilege of touring with Necrophagist back in 2008. It was an awesome time, and Moe and I actually became pretty good buddies. I have this memory of him seeking me out and telling me that he was feeling cold, and if we had hoodies. We absolutely did, so I hooked him up, and said that I can go to their merch booth have any item I want. Then he invited me onto his tour bus for beers. 🤘
    When I met up with him the following year, he seemed pretty dejected and burnt out. I don't think touring life is for him.
    If anyone is wondering, my old band was called Divinity, and we were on Nuclear Blast at the time supporting our first album: "Allegory."

    • @lucasmiguel4734
      @lucasmiguel4734 7 місяців тому +44

      Allegory is very good

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 7 місяців тому +9

      What was his personality like?

    • @nickfoster9350
      @nickfoster9350 7 місяців тому +16

      @@lucasmiguel4734 Many thanks.

    • @nickfoster9350
      @nickfoster9350 7 місяців тому +59

      he was very approachable, and very nice. He just liked to shoot the shit during his downtoime. ABout an hour or so before he was due to go onstage, I always saw him walking around and stretching his fingers and loosening his wrists.

    • @MIKEPGH
      @MIKEPGH 7 місяців тому +31

      Hey Nick! I was FOH with them and toured with you as well back then. Hope all is well!

  • @scottbrittain1249
    @scottbrittain1249 2 місяці тому +17

    Muhammad was an AI robot built by BMW Munich and sent back in time to create the best death metal band and disappear into oblivion to divide the metal masses, we must reunite to bring him back from the past

  • @stevehunt914
    @stevehunt914 7 місяців тому +236

    Christian Münzner's diplomacy is as articulated as his solo's.
    I LOVED the way he was able to say that they didn't get along while making it clear he respected Muhammed's musical gift.
    He's just a fantastic human being, and a formidable musician.

    • @joelbennett9014
      @joelbennett9014 4 місяці тому +1

      Christian is a better person to interview...I get that Muhammed and a fabled third album are interesting, but Christian's body of work is more impressive. Epitaph was a collaborative work between the two guitarists really.

    • @altair0800
      @altair0800 4 місяці тому +1

      @@joelbennett9014 not really, considering Muhammed wrote it all on his own

    • @joelbennett9014
      @joelbennett9014 4 місяці тому

      ​@@altair0800 He did not write the entirety of Epitaph...did you not even just listen to what Christian said in the interview you're commenting on?​

    • @altair0800
      @altair0800 4 місяці тому

      They co-wrote one song at the end, for me I would still consider it Muhammad’s creation.

    • @joelbennett9014
      @joelbennett9014 3 місяці тому +1

      @@altair0800 I agree that Muhammed was the backbone of songwriting, but you're downplaying Christian's contribution. Here's a direct quote written by Christian himself:
      "Hey guys! I wrote ALL the solos that I played in Necro, which are the solo in Stabwound, 2nd one in Stillborn, the ones in Epitaph and Seven, the 2 trade offs with Muhammed in Only Ash and the first solo in Symbiotic.
      Muhammed was with me when I recorded them and would sometimes suggest changes in the phrasing and stuff if I used to overplay. I don't know why everybody thinks he wrote my solos, we play very different. Probably because he keeps telling in interviews he wrote EVERYTHING on Epitaph, which keeps annoying me. Fact is that I also wrote some of the basslines, for example on Stabwound. People never think Mustaine wrote Friedman's solos for example. I actually can't think of a band where one guitarist writes solos for the other one. If you can't write good leads yourself, you're not supposed to be a lead player in a band, at least that's my opinion."

  • @fabrilax
    @fabrilax 8 місяців тому +373

    my guy drove 12 hours for a segment in his video, that's freaking dedication right there.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +65

      The GAS MONEY bro, buy a shirt or sign up for Justin's course 🤣

    • @FilthyPhilify
      @FilthyPhilify 8 місяців тому +6

      probably stopped for a Weisswurst and a Mass, too. That evens out

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +26

      Bavarians put cumin in their sausage, I'd rather chew my own cud.

    • @FilthyPhilify
      @FilthyPhilify 8 місяців тому +7

      @@sixstringtv1 to each their own. But there's no cumin in Weisswurst, just a bit of parsley.

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@sixstringtv1Weißwurst doesn't have any noticeable cumin taste

  • @bottlemanic
    @bottlemanic 7 місяців тому +189

    That interview where he states the new album should release in 2009 has haunted me for years and years

    • @moneybaggjo6234
      @moneybaggjo6234 7 місяців тому +15

      Enough to make a grown man cry

    • @FieldsOfFlesh
      @FieldsOfFlesh 7 місяців тому +8

      Same, I remember waking up from troubled sleep sometime in 2010 timeframe with that interview firmly in my mind. Thinking I had somehow let the arrival of that album come and go without marking it. I jumped online and looked and looked until the sun came up, I watched the interview again a few times to try and figure out if there was a language barrier issue that I wasn't remembering but ..... nothing. I think back to that time sometimes and just google Necrophagist and .... nothing. If its over then so be it but I for one am so grateful to have been exposed to them.

    • @davecrlo2462
      @davecrlo2462 7 місяців тому +1

      Espero no morir y nunca saber que si se publico el album...

    • @fredvaineo3509
      @fredvaineo3509 7 місяців тому

      He also talks about doing a side project w the drummer that for sure would happen and was a different genre altogether. I think even said would continue always writing necro stuff too ha

  • @svne4t3r25
    @svne4t3r25 8 місяців тому +158

    During the last seconds of the video I thought that Muhammed would appear out of nowhere to say something like "do you want to know what happened to Necrophagist? Wait for the next video."

    • @HydenGuitarPlayer
      @HydenGuitarPlayer 8 місяців тому +18

      I swear I thought exactly the same

    • @mannym1635
      @mannym1635 8 місяців тому +11

      I was hoping desperately for this, I would’ve stood up in my chair and applauded

    • @Ray-M59
      @Ray-M59 8 місяців тому +15

      I thought he was going to casually walk past in the background eating a donut…

    • @Truth_Hurts_Bad
      @Truth_Hurts_Bad 7 місяців тому +8

      Too much dopamine-drip YT content. This didn't cross my mind after the logical reasoning of witnessing him being totally shut down all day, for 2 days, by BMW employees.

    • @FSATA
      @FSATA 7 місяців тому +4

      I was thinking that Muhammed would appear in the back. Like riding the bus or walking eating an ice cream or drinking coffe.

  • @themeat8624
    @themeat8624 7 місяців тому +161

    I love how Christian just has a habit of being in some of the best tech death bands. Spawn of Possession, Necrophagist, Obscura, etc.

    • @astrmedeus36
      @astrmedeus36 6 місяців тому +23

      i love that you said some of the best tech death bands and then named all of my favorite tech death bands

    • @themeat8624
      @themeat8624 6 місяців тому +9

      @@astrmedeus36 they’re all of my favorites too lol.

    • @user-tj6xx5sc9l
      @user-tj6xx5sc9l 4 місяці тому +2

      Broken heart with necrophagist and spawn
      Both is over😂😂😂

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach 4 місяці тому +1

      He is in the best, but all he actually want to do is just power metal 😅

    • @somethingaboutfrogs
      @somethingaboutfrogs 3 місяці тому +2

      Don't forget about Alkaloid, they're my favourite

  • @Geshmaal
    @Geshmaal 7 місяців тому +114

    It's almost suspicious to me that these BMW guys don't want to be filmed... almost like they have something to hide. Perhaps BMW doesn't want us to hear the new Necrophagist album?

  • @darkinglory
    @darkinglory 7 місяців тому +70

    As someone who met and hung out with Muhammed all day in 2006 in San Francisco along with members of Cattle Decapitation and Neuraxis, I can tell you that Muhammed was a very nice guy, he signed all of our stuff, allowed me and my friend show him the city, and even gave us his first concert worn Necrophagist tee. That day in typical SF fashion, their tour van got broken into and I found myself stuck in traffic with a pissed off Muhammed in a van for over an hour. All things considered, he was super cool. A memory I will never forget.

    • @CodamATW
      @CodamATW 7 місяців тому +2

      As someone who met him casually, did you catch any hints of him being a control-freak, or any sense of why ppl say he’s so hard to work with?

    • @dudeguyman27
      @dudeguyman27 7 місяців тому +2

      His main amp got stolen when that van got broken into, which explains why he was pissed

  • @rahulmenon4357
    @rahulmenon4357 8 місяців тому +201

    Christian is one of the coolest guitarists in the scene IMO

    • @mikemakar2326
      @mikemakar2326 7 місяців тому +5

      He has an unfortunate name.

    • @HabAnagarek
      @HabAnagarek 7 місяців тому +13

      He was very honest, very articulate.

    • @sinistermephisto65
      @sinistermephisto65 7 місяців тому +2

      Not from my personal experience, He blows hot and cold

    • @inhumanityreborn4597
      @inhumanityreborn4597 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sinistermephisto65 you knew him? 🫨

    • @Mark___933
      @Mark___933 7 місяців тому +13

      @@mikemakar2326Mohammed is even more unfortunate

  • @cgrind3000
    @cgrind3000 8 місяців тому +210

    This is so epic, I applaud you efforts. Every time I listen to Necrophagist I think that if anyone could find Muhammed and get him on a podcast it would break the tech death section of the internet

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +98

      I will be that guy.

    • @cgrind3000
      @cgrind3000 7 місяців тому +9

      @@sixstringtv1 I'm rooting for you, that would be so sick

    • @HabAnagarek
      @HabAnagarek 7 місяців тому +6

      It would be sick. He gave us such amazing music, it would be great to hear from him. I hope he knows how appreciated he is.

    • @RMZ-GTR7
      @RMZ-GTR7 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@sixstringtv1Go, brother!🤘

    • @ctgslayer
      @ctgslayer 7 місяців тому +3

      @@sixstringtv1do you have private investigators in Germany? I don’t have any other ideas lmao

  • @DRUMMERDAVEKINKADE
    @DRUMMERDAVEKINKADE 7 місяців тому +94

    I played drums for Malevolent Creation on that Bolt Thrower tour. We shared a bus and lived with the Necro guys for 7 weeks. I watched them every single night of the tour as back then, the music blew my mind. Needless to say, I recall quite a bit of friction between Christian, Hannes and Muhammad. The bass player Stefan was neutral with everyone. Christian, Hannes and Stefan were a great group of guys and they played phenomenally every night. Very hard working. I didn’t get along with Muhammad very well either lol…and I even remember a day or 2 where he wanted to kick my ass for whatever reason. I was also a young punk ass kid back then so I probably would’ve wanted to kick my ass too. Hannes and Christian have really built themselves into incredible players and inspirational figures over the years. I wish them all nothing but the best.

    • @alexstarovereem
      @alexstarovereem 7 місяців тому +10

      Don't want to prod but would love to hear more about this friction and Muhammad's personality I assume he was the type who wanted things his way all the time.

    • @zzzzzz69
      @zzzzzz69 7 місяців тому +2

      yo your band is/was dope, one of the bands that got me into death metal years and years back

    • @sebastianahrens2385
      @sebastianahrens2385 6 місяців тому +11

      @@alexstarovereem I guess it is somewhat similar to how Chuck Schuldiner ran Death. They're both exceptional musicians with a very clear vision, and judging by their work, their insistence in control isn't entirely uncalled for.

    • @gameurai5701
      @gameurai5701 6 місяців тому +5

      @@sebastianahrens2385 I'm a musician too, and exactly like them...when your music is your life, you don't make compromises. Outside of my own work I tend to be on the neutral, somewhat agreeable side, but not when it comes to composing/recording/mixing/mastering lol.

    • @KeremcanBuyuktaskin
      @KeremcanBuyuktaskin 6 місяців тому

      I'm Turkish, and Muhammed's parents are originally from eastern black sea region of Turkey. People from that region are infamous for being hot tempered. So I'm not surprised to hear that he was hot tempered, he probably grow in an environment like that, like hot tempered father, uncles, etc.

  • @inhumanityreborn4597
    @inhumanityreborn4597 8 місяців тому +72

    Not sure Muhammed would ever want to talk to you after this 😅

    • @salottin
      @salottin 7 місяців тому +11

      Exactly

    • @inhumanityreborn4597
      @inhumanityreborn4597 7 місяців тому +9

      ​​@salottin right?, he and his guest both kept dissing the man throughout the video and called the rest of the members useless towards the end wtf 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @nathanaelsylvia6538
      @nathanaelsylvia6538 7 місяців тому +3

      I think you're confused

    • @inhumanityreborn4597
      @inhumanityreborn4597 7 місяців тому

      @@nathanaelsylvia6538 nah

    • @fjuraa
      @fjuraa 2 місяці тому

      why?

  • @danielb.4817
    @danielb.4817 8 місяців тому +237

    The solos of Necrophagist are insane, like Malmsteen had a secret Death Metal child

    • @awguitarroom8033
      @awguitarroom8033 7 місяців тому +13

      Best guitar solos in metal music

    • @puffballbk2186
      @puffballbk2186 7 місяців тому +5

      @@awguitarroom8033if you think that then you need to listen to more tech death lol

    • @awguitarroom8033
      @awguitarroom8033 7 місяців тому +22

      @puffballbk2186 I've listened to just about everything tech deth has to offer on top of learning a lot of it on guitar. I really do like Michael Keene solos and pretty much anything involving Danny Tunker or Christian Muenzner. Dave Davidson and Brandon Ellis have some amazing solos as well but I just love that neoclassical evil sounding Muhammad Suicmez solo

    • @awguitarroom8033
      @awguitarroom8033 7 місяців тому +8

      @puffballbk2186 my personal opinion it doesn't get much better than the solo from Advanced Corpse tumor

    • @infinidominion
      @infinidominion 7 місяців тому

      @@awguitarroom8033 based on memorable music or just utility skill showcase?

  • @resington
    @resington 8 місяців тому +105

    Saw them live in 07, probably the most tight and unbelievably amazing metal band I've ever seen play.

    • @Angstadillio
      @Angstadillio 7 місяців тому

      Same, I saw them at The Rave (the basement of the Eagle's Club in Milwaukee, Wisconsin). I agree with you 100 percent.

    • @Exhumed2
      @Exhumed2 7 місяців тому +1

      Me too, in Cleveland for summer slaughter.

    • @rubyrod668
      @rubyrod668 7 місяців тому +1

      I still have the tour shirt !

    • @Typhoon0627
      @Typhoon0627 7 місяців тому +1

      really? I saw them live probably 6 times and every time it was like listening to a fucking typewriter. Their live mix was constantly shit. All you could hear where vocals and Hannes's kicks... It was a little bit better with Marco, but still took 5-6 songs into the set for the sound guy to kinda figure it out so you could hear the guitars a little bit... but yeah, most sound guys at most venues don't know how to mix metal shows. 99% of the time it's all vocals and kicks like it's a hip hop show.

    • @DissYraiN
      @DissYraiN 7 місяців тому +1

      Summer slaughter? that was the first year of that tour. they had Marco Minnemann on drums and he did a solo every show. So glad I got to see them.

  • @ovivan79
    @ovivan79 7 місяців тому +11

    I used to listen to their 'Necrophagist' tape a lot around 95' since I grew up in Baden-Baden, played in bands myself, when a friend one day played the tape 'Necrophagist' in his car. It blew my mind at the time.
    Then I saw Necrophagist live at the old "Jube" in Baden-Baden where they played with a band called 'Forlorn Hope' which I eventually joined a few years later. Raphael Kempermann was Necrophagists drummer at the time and the brutality of their metal and that precision blew my mind.
    When a friend of mine, Daniel Silva, who also played drums at Forlorn Hope for a while, joined Necrophagist, he one day invited me to their rehearsal in the basement of the old "Jube". The approach to rehearsing their songs was remarkable and nothing I had ever experienced in my bands. It explains why a lot of musicians, even if they are the absolute top-tier, might get exhausted after a while. Precision and demand for 100% focus explain it best. Muhammed would break down parts to rehearse, set a tempo on a metronome, and 'go', over and over again. Then interrupt again, make a comment (sometimes quite snappy), and repeat. Don't get me wrong. I admired the dedication and professionalism at the time but it's an approach you have to love. Needless to say, sitting right in front of Mohammed and their bass player and watching them warm up and rehearse made me feel like I was at 'toddler level' on my instrument. :D
    Around 98 or 99 I then got the chance to Co-Produce one song on a sampler of Raphael Kempermann's band who ironically had switched to composing and singing Hip-Hop. Very nice guy and also dedicated and focussed personality but I could see how someone like him would burn out in a Necrophagist environment.
    We've all seen interviews of Marco Minnemann and he fits the profile. Top tier musician and talent, but also the nicest guy and had so much more to explore.

  • @ceobe7458
    @ceobe7458 8 місяців тому +68

    the fact u got an interview with Christian is so fucking cool. Ive never listened to necrophagist, but I watch all of your videos, and im also a huge fan of obscura, especially their album with him so, its just awesome you got an interview with him, glad I've been subbed for so long

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +14

      Hahah, I told him off camera what a big Obscura fan I am.
      Super chill guy!

    • @ceobe7458
      @ceobe7458 8 місяців тому +2

      @@sixstringtv1 did you happen to ask him any obscura related questions? not sure what i would ask him but i know you would have some good questions, if u did happen to ask any

  • @kosmonument2682
    @kosmonument2682 7 місяців тому +36

    I got to see Necrophagist with the pre-accident Decapitated in 2007. Both bands were incredible and are dearly missed.

    • @MangoOverload91
      @MangoOverload91 7 місяців тому +2

      Man, Decapitated still exists and is awesome

    • @michaelmacdonald4093
      @michaelmacdonald4093 7 місяців тому

      Me too. It was so good

    • @therealpsychotrader
      @therealpsychotrader 7 місяців тому +2

      I bought a peavy cab off of Vogg when they were touring through WI in 2007. I think they were in Greenbay and a friend that was playing the show with them shot me message saying he had a beat up peavy cab he wanted to get rid of for $100. Of course, I drove 3 hours to get it and chill. Worth it.

    • @derekmartinez7134
      @derekmartinez7134 7 місяців тому

      Same, I was blown away by Decapitated, RIP Vitek.

  • @ejmatthews1012
    @ejmatthews1012 8 місяців тому +34

    İn turkish “suiçmez” means “he does not drink water”

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +16

      Does it actually 😭

    • @theangrycheeto
      @theangrycheeto 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sixstringtv1I was told it means "eroticland euuhh porno cinema for magazine store"

  • @rexrosal1863
    @rexrosal1863 7 місяців тому +34

    Thank you so much for conducting the interview with Christian Muenzner, trying to find Muhammed at BMW and uploading this for us Necrophagist fans to see. Muhammed may not be found but reading/watching interviews from Christian and Hannes about their time in the band is gold. For me it's like Steve Winwood talk about how he worked with Jimi Hendrix back in 1968.
    A few months ago, someone had commented on a UA-cam video that is Necrophagist related. The individual claimed that he is Muhammed's friend and that he lived down the street from him. He (the individual) stated that once in while, Muhammed picks up his guitar and plays but had no intention of getting back into the music business. If I could remember/find the exact Necro UA-cam video where I read those comments, I would point them out to you so maybe you could get any info from that individual about Muhammed but I simply can't remember which video is was because I watch a lot of Necro UA-cam videos.

    • @trckz9133
      @trckz9133 3 місяці тому

      Thats kind of sad I feel working for bmv was just something he saw as a way to make his money worth and just got sucked in into what he thinks is better for him I could be completely wrong and I don’t want to start arguments his and the bands work is amazing for how short lived it is. But who knows maybe he looks at that hard drive every time he comes back home and just feels like it’s not worth the effort to put in work of releasing it.

  • @warfieldwithin
    @warfieldwithin 7 місяців тому +33

    I recorded Bass for a german death metal band (Deadborn) back in autumn 2011 with Christoph Brandes at Iguana Studios. Of course I asked about Necrophagist material too :-D Back then he told me Necrophagist had indeed recorded a few new songs (I think 2 or 3?) there and that Muhammed was quite a perfectionist and wasn't 100% happy with it yet. I never heard anything of the actual recordings though. Anyway, super interesting how a band can have THAT big impact on a genre and just disappear never to be heard from again.

  • @HadesKronosson
    @HadesKronosson 7 місяців тому +45

    At this point, somebody will just have to become an engineer at BMW to find him.

    • @V8Diese1
      @V8Diese1 5 місяців тому +1

      That´s just what I thought haha :D

    • @proxy8918
      @proxy8918 5 місяців тому +8

      I'm on it chief

    • @HadesKronosson
      @HadesKronosson 5 місяців тому +7

      @@proxy8918 Godspeed, lad

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 3 місяці тому

      @@proxy8918 report back on the success or failure of your enterprise, please.

    • @EmpyreanLightASMR
      @EmpyreanLightASMR 3 місяці тому

      @@proxy8918 Would be funny if you check in every 6 months... "calc I done"... "calc ii done" ... "calc iii done" ... "physics 3 done" .... etc etc, we can watch your baby steps to interning at BMW

  • @MetalMassacre666
    @MetalMassacre666 7 місяців тому +15

    If someone like him wanted to be found, he would make an appearance. Maybe he doesn't care anymore for music, life gets in the way and you wake up and realize you hate it for one reason or another. If anything you probably left Munich and some security guy went into his office and laughed saying they were trying to find him again and he just laughed it off and went and ate a sandwich and drove home.

  • @gabrielvalcazar3794
    @gabrielvalcazar3794 6 місяців тому +12

    I spotted Muhammed backstage at Brutal Assault 2019, same festival mentioned in the video. I was playing there with Wormed and he was one of the first people we recognized when we arrived. We all went "wait, is that the dude from Necrophagist? Are they playing or something?"
    All he seemed to do for the entirety of the festival was hang out in the backstage area, cause I saw him every time I went there lol

  • @The_Real_Grandpa_Joe
    @The_Real_Grandpa_Joe 7 місяців тому +16

    Algorithm brought me here, first of thanks for a great video.
    Second of all, I learned about this band through this video, and I just finished listening to the album called “Epitaph”. Holy cow I’m completely blown away. Once in a while I find a band that stands out to me in a very very good way. Awesome music love the melodic aspects so much

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  7 місяців тому +4

      Epitaph is life changing 😩

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 7 місяців тому +2

      Imagine how mind-blowing it was hearing it back in 2004... yes I was there 🤯

  • @jonathanrosenthal7304
    @jonathanrosenthal7304 7 місяців тому +11

    I'm a journalist and have reached out to Muhammed through his publicist at Relapse Records. He's not interested in talking. Maybe "when the new album is out," haha. Great investigative video, though!

    • @jadetremblay213
      @jadetremblay213 7 місяців тому +2

      Can you provide any more information? Obviously not names or anything, but any reason WHY he doesn't want to? Is he just uninterested in communicating about it? Completely uninterested in music now? So many questions 😢😢 haha.

    • @jonathanrosenthal7304
      @jonathanrosenthal7304 7 місяців тому +2

      @@jadetremblay213 that's all I know, haha.

  • @Gravijahz
    @Gravijahz 7 місяців тому +19

    I think we think artists need to live, breathe and die their art, but I think it's interesting when you have an artist who burns brightly for a short time and is happy. It seems like maybe he's living the life he wants to. He put out legendary music, now maybe he's focusing on other things, a family, his career, who knows?

    • @BrotherBrown.
      @BrotherBrown. 7 місяців тому +2

      He's just been doing side quests since 2004, or perhaps music itself was but a side quest to him 😮

  • @awguitarroom8033
    @awguitarroom8033 7 місяців тому +39

    I can see how having to play those songs every day would burn you out. Every one of those songs requires non stop practice every day. Imagine the burden of having to play a 8 - 10 song set of Necrophagist songs on tour live every other night. Also because the songs are so technical Everyone is watching to see if you mess up. Im just happy that we still have two Necrophagist albums that we can always go back to. Great video man

    • @soulbrother5435
      @soulbrother5435 7 місяців тому +9

      So Necrophagist is the answer to question "can god create a rock he cannot lift"

    • @rubyrod668
      @rubyrod668 6 місяців тому +2

      @@soulbrother5435 facts

  • @Mr.housekeys
    @Mr.housekeys 6 місяців тому +6

    Come back Daddy Suiçmez

  • @DodoMaldo
    @DodoMaldo 7 місяців тому +32

    Awesome job ! The interview with Christian really is an exclusive piece of information, glad to learn form him. And nice attempt at trying to find him in Munich even though it was not successful.

  • @BaBaBaBenny
    @BaBaBaBenny 7 місяців тому +39

    I think my favourite part was that, after driving 6 hours to Munich, you almost instantly realised that you probably wouldn't just be able to ask a random employee if he worked there due to date protection/security reasons.
    Still, a damn solid effort man. Hope part two goes a little better.

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  7 місяців тому +9

      I knew that to begin with hahah, privacy laws and work contracts at big companies are both very strict

  • @espawna
    @espawna 7 місяців тому +10

    I applaud your effort, awesome interview as well. I can't believe I got the pleasure to meet him at a show and take a picture with him back in 2007.

  • @inferno72229
    @inferno72229 7 місяців тому +5

    Necrophagist: Drop 2 of the greatest Death Metal album of all time
    Also Necrophagist: ADIOS

  • @derickcutter8485
    @derickcutter8485 8 місяців тому +20

    i went through puberty listening to epitaph. a third album could most certainly help me with adulthood

  • @handsdowndrumming9261
    @handsdowndrumming9261 7 місяців тому +12

    I was the drummer for Destroyer Destroyer and we played with them in Tulsa OK, Marco was drumming (blacked out DW). Absolutely RUTHLESS!!!

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 7 місяців тому

      Dude, your band ruled! So underrated

  • @planetos
    @planetos 7 місяців тому +8

    wow man thank you so much for putting that much time and effort in trying to find the man himself and answers to the rumors! I met Muhammed during the Summer Slaughter tours dates in Toronto Canada back in 2007 and 2008. He was super nice and very humble. Please don't give up on this documentary!! Keep putting the word out here and hopefully someone will know someone and the universe will will open a path for you to meet him

  • @unseenjungle5386
    @unseenjungle5386 8 місяців тому +34

    didn't knew Minnemann played for Necrophagist. crazy good drummer and muscian imo...

    • @gozutheDJ
      @gozutheDJ 8 місяців тому

      yep only live but i remember when that was big news

    • @JumpDiffusion
      @JumpDiffusion 7 місяців тому

      Yes. Check out Marco’s drumming on Ignominious & Pale (live). It’s way better than the studio version.

    • @j.pabloquinche3283
      @j.pabloquinche3283 7 місяців тому +4

      Half of the obscura members played for Necrophagist

    • @darrellh8890
      @darrellh8890 7 місяців тому +1

      I seen them with hannes and Marco. I remember being annoyed that Marco didn't play it the same. It didn't have the same tightness as the other times I've seen them. Met everyone but Muhammad after a show in Wisconsin. They were doing their own merch table I was too scared to ask for autograph. But I do have Muhammads guitar pick :) and i recorded the whole show from front row. My friend posted one track and it can be found by looking up ignominious and pale. Madison WI \m/

  • @kindredkurse
    @kindredkurse 8 місяців тому +7

    whats really sad is that the third album was basically done and its just sitting there rotting away never to be heard, like the music actually fucking exists and we will never hear it.

  • @yungcrisisactor
    @yungcrisisactor 8 місяців тому +4

    Great work man this was a great watch. Hopefully, you'll find him some day!!

  • @guitarist_derek
    @guitarist_derek 7 місяців тому +2

    So happy about this video... super informative, and thanks for your efforts!

  • @morgulark
    @morgulark 7 місяців тому

    Great interview! And research, its nice to hear and watch, revealing details about how albums where made and all the stuf!! Cheers for this video. Definitely following you.

  • @off6848
    @off6848 7 місяців тому +22

    "Keeping Necrophagist alive"
    Keeping death eating itself alive is quite a conflict of interests

    • @fajaradi1223
      @fajaradi1223 7 місяців тому +1

      How's death be alive in the first place?

    • @off6848
      @off6848 7 місяців тому +1

      @@fajaradi1223 well if there’s something dead but it’s eating itself alive and I’m being tasked with keeping it alive like what should I do just kill it??

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato 7 місяців тому +7

    You know what would have been funny? Having Suiçmez bump into you during that outro, you having a Necrophagist shirt and him saying "Oops sorry man... cool shirt!" and he walked away

  • @sirefromtheshire
    @sirefromtheshire 7 місяців тому +6

    I was fortunate enough to see them perform on that Summer Slaughter '09 tour. They sounded just as good if not better than their recordings. Super tight and brutal. I wish they would've kept going but they're legends now.

  • @scottyknows
    @scottyknows 8 місяців тому +13

    I regret not seeing them live when they came around El Paso. Such awesome music.

    • @emgu1618
      @emgu1618 3 місяці тому

      Hell of a show! I was there! 😁

  • @FilthyPhilify
    @FilthyPhilify 8 місяців тому +25

    great segment! The interview with Christian was really good. I liked the 'investigative' aspect a lot and you picked up some nice techniques of documentary film making. I'll definitely be back for the sequel!

  • @richardz1216
    @richardz1216 7 місяців тому +11

    epitaph is up there with the best metal albums ever. insane composition and execution. I love it dearly like a unique gem

  • @k-ondoomer
    @k-ondoomer Місяць тому +1

    i am a HUGE necrophagist fan, their albums blew me away as a young kid and cemented my taste in metal for life, but there is something so special about releasing two near perfect albums and moving on. I dont think we will ever know about mohammed, nor will we get a third album, but im glad we got peak tier technical death metal before the advent of overly digital, amp sim recording.

  • @Centipede_Solaire
    @Centipede_Solaire 8 місяців тому +8

    I was re watching your first BC Rich video this morning. Crazy seeing how for you've come. Not that your early videos were bad but you've improved so much

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  8 місяців тому +7

      Oh they were definitely bad 🤣🤣

  • @BS-se4yg
    @BS-se4yg 7 місяців тому +9

    Necrophagist was one of those bands that represented a before and after in their subgenre and I doubt we will see another band like them any time soon. It's a shame that the perfectionism and dedication that made it the cult band it was, was also probably the main factor of its downfall.... yet I refuse to lose hope, that 3rd album could drop at any moment and I will be ready if it happens

  • @floriandriemer3835
    @floriandriemer3835 7 місяців тому

    Thumbs up for putting a lot of effort into this video. I once met Muhammed after a concert in 2006 and quickly shook his hand. Also had nice little chat with Christian, who was very nice.

  • @ozeldiaz6437
    @ozeldiaz6437 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for the hard work. The search continues.

  • @rileylynch8368
    @rileylynch8368 7 місяців тому +3

    Man I really applaud your effort. Hopefully somehow MS will catch wind of this video and will consider reaching out to you for an interview. He's really become a unicorn of the metal world, so funny. \m/

  • @ibanezleftyclub4058
    @ibanezleftyclub4058 7 місяців тому +7

    One of the best tech-death bands to ever exist.

  • @MatthewBlackMetal
    @MatthewBlackMetal 7 місяців тому

    I love your channel so much thank you for this

  • @DstrtdMnd
    @DstrtdMnd 7 місяців тому

    This was amazing. I hope you continue the search (on camera)

  • @chaosclg
    @chaosclg 8 місяців тому +24

    I'm quite relentless with learning things on guitar, i learned meshuggahs bleed after 6 months with an 8 string but necrophagist even after 10 or so years is just so high a level i dont think it falls under the "enough time and effort you will get it" hahahah

    • @justin.hombach
      @justin.hombach 8 місяців тому +2

      With the right method… definitely ☺️

    • @grigoriraspoutine9298
      @grigoriraspoutine9298 8 місяців тому +6

      i can play necrophagist, but i feel like there is something i am missing for bleed...

    • @simonp9471
      @simonp9471 8 місяців тому +4

      I feel you. I still remember loading their songs in Guitar Pro and just thinking WTF at the solos. It was Alexi, Suicimez and Jeff Loomis who make me feel useless at arpgeggios. I'm still trying 15 years later LOL. That's when I knew to focus on riffing and alternate picking instead of sweeps that I'll never get down cleanly.

    • @Tsobe
      @Tsobe 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@@simonp9471its funny how different we as a people are in our proficiencies, I was gifted on arpeggios from the get go but riffing something like Bleed takes major effort

    • @Djent_Djenerator
      @Djent_Djenerator 6 місяців тому

      @@TsobeI’m the exact opposite 💀. I’m not good at soloing but I focus most if not all of my time on rhythmic playing for song from bands like Meshuggah, Periphery, Monuments, and Gojira

  • @MertKzltug
    @MertKzltug 6 місяців тому +2

    Muhammed is an engineer at BMW.
    That explains why he is so technical.

  • @MetalGuitar911
    @MetalGuitar911 7 місяців тому +1

    I totally appreciate ur efforts man❤

  • @jak9990
    @jak9990 8 місяців тому +3

    Necrophagist one of my absolute favorite bands ever!!!
    What a guitar Player Muhammed is!

  • @DanielHarms
    @DanielHarms 7 місяців тому +7

    I met Muhammed around 2002 or 2003 at a Suffocation show, it was the tour where Terrance couldn't come to Germany for visa reasons, Muhammed told me that he was supposed to fill in for him, but it didn't work out for some reasons, he worked pretty confused during the conversation, I hope he's okay

  • @ll1521
    @ll1521 8 місяців тому

    DUDE!! TYSM FOR THIS! love Necrophagist so much.

  • @muhammedsuicmez3617
    @muhammedsuicmez3617 7 місяців тому +1

    Very informative video. Please do a part 2.

  • @TheEnderBand
    @TheEnderBand 7 місяців тому +5

    I actually prefer the original version of Onset personally- it sounds more jagged and mechanical. It's funny how big of an impact Guitar Pro and Necrophagist had on the underground metal world in the early 2000s; we used to use Guitar Pro for everything too. I believe the cabinet on Epitaph was actually an old black 80s Laney cabinet with a metal grille, mic'ed with an SM57 really far towards the edge of the speaker for a warm, spongy sound. I remember a photo on their old site with a title like "57 kisses Laney" specifically because I used to use the same cabinet. I'm really grateful to have seen Necrophagist twice and met the guys in the band- I really hope they come back someday. They basically made the blueprint for modern technical extreme metal

  • @Chris-Ian
    @Chris-Ian 7 місяців тому +5

    As a Necrophagist fan I look forward to any new video related to the topic.

  • @KiriakosGP
    @KiriakosGP 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Necrophagist is a legend!

  • @destroyerofsenses
    @destroyerofsenses 7 місяців тому

    Amazing work \m/

  • @JothJackson
    @JothJackson 6 місяців тому +3

    Instant subscription, this is so in my wheelhouse

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  6 місяців тому

      🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @AzenBerries
    @AzenBerries 8 місяців тому +7

    Christian is and always will be my favorite guitar player and inspiration for as long as I'm alive

  • @atimeandaword9921
    @atimeandaword9921 5 місяців тому

    Really great video, loved the interview with Christian.

  • @staslocovai
    @staslocovai 4 місяці тому

    Hey man, 10x for the expedition and the interview. That was a great effort. I guess epitaph was a symbolic album title 😊

  • @replicatedmetal
    @replicatedmetal 7 місяців тому +3

    This is some top tier journalism right here

  • @jessiehawkins77
    @jessiehawkins77 7 місяців тому +3

    Met him in 2006. Got his autograph on a tab booklet for epitaph. Great fella

  • @Psychotic6
    @Psychotic6 7 місяців тому +2

    That tour with Bolt Thrower during 2006 was a blast, one of the best shows i ever seen.

  • @HiteTricks
    @HiteTricks 7 місяців тому +2

    Necrophagist is on my mind atleast weekly, thanks for making this video. I haven't finished watching it yet but it's already scratching that itch!

    • @R3tr0v1ru5
      @R3tr0v1ru5 5 місяців тому

      I have the Stillborn One in my head basically daily. Madness.

  • @Stevemariscal
    @Stevemariscal 7 місяців тому +127

    You should definitely talk to the other band members. Why call it a documentary if you’re not going all in?! Their interviews can lead somewhere closer to him.

    • @8ori5
      @8ori5 7 місяців тому +24

      The work done here is already great considering the subject...

    • @joshs.5384
      @joshs.5384 7 місяців тому +8

      Marco Minneman has said that Muhammed has stopped playing guitar. I'm not sure where I saw this, but I remember it was a pretty recent quote.

    • @8ori5
      @8ori5 7 місяців тому +9

      @@joshs.5384 "I heard s.o telling sth"...Sorry, but bring some sources or it does not exist.

    • @funnyberries4017
      @funnyberries4017 7 місяців тому +2

      This is the closest anyone has gotten in 15 years!

  • @ArmandNour
    @ArmandNour 7 місяців тому +8

    I randomly saw him at a Wintersun show back in 2013 in LA and everyone was too intimidated to talk to him. At the time we still had hope for a new album so I didn't really think anything of it, major regret not trying to talk to him.

    • @JohnDoe-rj8nd
      @JohnDoe-rj8nd 7 місяців тому +5

      Oof, the double whammy of Necrophagist and Wintersun.

    • @ArmandNour
      @ArmandNour 7 місяців тому +2

      @@JohnDoe-rj8nd It's a gamble at this point if we'll get a new Necrophagist or Wintersun first now lol.

    • @Malaneth
      @Malaneth 7 місяців тому +1

      Both bands are the absolute masters of technicality@@ArmandNour

  • @gaborbende9554
    @gaborbende9554 7 місяців тому

    Respect for this video,...so much respect!

  • @CharmanderThug
    @CharmanderThug 7 місяців тому +1

    A+ for effort, I enjoyed this man

  • @grimpsych3836
    @grimpsych3836 7 місяців тому +4

    For a small channel able to interview Christian Munzner is insane :D His solo album are crazy X). Apart from that, great video not gonna lie. Sub'd!

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  7 місяців тому +3

      It's not about channel size, it's about who you know ;)

    • @VortechBand
      @VortechBand 7 місяців тому

      @@sixstringtv1 ...or how you use it :D

  • @artvandalay7632
    @artvandalay7632 7 місяців тому +3

    At the time this was one of the most exciting, mysterious, and interesting metal projects at the time. His solos are probably the best in the genre.

  • @dirkdiggler2218
    @dirkdiggler2218 4 місяці тому

    This was a great watch. Hearing from Christian was super interesting, and that drive to Munich earned a sub. Great effort man! Hope you eventually get a promising lead.

  • @brandonharris9160
    @brandonharris9160 8 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this video

  • @JulianThursday13
    @JulianThursday13 7 місяців тому +7

    waiting for "the search for Bob Rusay"

    • @Floppy.83
      @Floppy.83 6 місяців тому

      Start looking at the golf courses.

  • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
    @DJTheMetalheadMercenary 7 місяців тому +5

    Man, I really, really, REALLY want to hear that 3rd album. C'mon Mo, have a chat with the man!!!!
    Nice reminiscence-- Saw Necrophagist at a local 2-day festival called Robot Moshfest way back in the day (also one of the last US shows Decapitated played before going back to Europe and the Bus Accident, RIP Vitek), it was held at a Skate Rink in the middle of nowhere (burned down a couple years after that fest, RIP), Mo was on point although looked very tired-- he nailed the solos and had the crowd going hard, it really was a great set from them alongside all the other killer acts that were on that bill (Decapitated, Cattle Decap, Cephalic Carnage, Ion Dissonance, The Faceless, Beneath the Massacre, Veil of Maya, etc.). Good times.

  • @Vitor-Piolun
    @Vitor-Piolun 7 місяців тому

    Respect for that video dude💪

  • @DarkPhantomSky
    @DarkPhantomSky 7 місяців тому

    Much appreciated!

  • @mannym1635
    @mannym1635 8 місяців тому +27

    The rumor for a long time was that the record label (was it Nuclear Blast?) did Muhammed really dirty, and out of spite, he held the album back. Then, after so many years, he just said “fuck it” and gave up. I have no way of knowing if this is true or not.
    I only have 2 ideas where you can follow this further:
    1) write a letter to BMW corporate, ask them directly. Tell them you fully understand their employees right to privacy, but that this man im was an artist, who’s work touched many lives, and you’d like the opportunity to reach out and thank him for that. Tell them to simply ask the man if he’d be willing to have a conversation with you, and, if the answer is no, they can just deny his very existence.
    No harm no foul.
    2) write to their (presumably former) record label. You can still get officially licensed Necrophagist shirts and such - I just ordered one last year. Therefore Muhammed is POSSIBLY (hopefully) still seeing checks from them, therefore they must know where he is. Try a similar spiel as my idea for BMW corporate, and hope for the best.
    It’s been almost 20 years since Epitaph came out. Perhaps Muhammed is starting to feel a little nostalgic. Perhaps, just maybe, he’s finally ready to talk, if only to reminisce about past glory.
    Good luck to you, and please keep us updated. DO NOT GIVE UP.

    • @DimKAt21
      @DimKAt21 8 місяців тому

      +1

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 7 місяців тому +4

      Have you considered maybe that he doesn't want his current colleagues knowing about his former life?

    • @praetor47
      @praetor47 7 місяців тому +7

      @@lewisb85"about his former life" haha, what? it's not like he was a pornstar or an Adolf sympathizer. he played guitar in a band and toured the world, lol

    • @AUM_-po9sc
      @AUM_-po9sc 7 місяців тому +3

      The last label Necrophagist was officially on was Relapse Records. And yeah, there is some knowledge that he had his gripes with the label.

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn 7 місяців тому +2

      Relapse Records. He mentioned on his FB in 2014 I think that he had problems with the label.

  • @ThatkidSquid
    @ThatkidSquid 7 місяців тому +7

    Christians playing in Obscura is top tier.

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 7 місяців тому +1

      Dude is siiick

    • @henrywalton5967
      @henrywalton5967 7 місяців тому

      Saw them and met Christian last year, he's insane. Seeing them again in December.

  • @scoobybenguitars
    @scoobybenguitars 8 місяців тому

    Great doc dude!

  • @GamePlayMetal
    @GamePlayMetal 7 місяців тому +1

    I was lucky enough to play in a band that opened for Necrophagist back in 2006 or so. We already knew the band's music going in, but we were still mesmerized by how insanely good they were live

  • @Hatchet_Wound
    @Hatchet_Wound 7 місяців тому +3

    Get Hannes, Romain and Marco interviewed, too!

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  7 місяців тому +2

      Working on it!

    • @dannyroessler
      @dannyroessler 3 місяці тому

      @@sixstringtv1 Don`t forget Stefan, he is a realy nice guy too ;)

  • @seriouslypeople5860
    @seriouslypeople5860 7 місяців тому +3

    I was fortunate enough to see them open for Cannibal Corpse in Denver around... idk... like 2005-2006. Dying Fetus was there also and I picked up a Cannibal Hockey Jersey. Dude, the only merch Necrophagist had was a tab book for Epitaph and you better believe I walked out of there with that shit. They were AMAZING live! If he didn't want to be found, I guess I'm glad you didn't find him because much respect. I hope whatever he's doing now fulfills him.

  • @haogwasakura
    @haogwasakura 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for this

    • @sixstringtv1
      @sixstringtv1  7 місяців тому +3

      Trying to get hold of a few more ex members right now. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @techdeth
    @techdeth 7 місяців тому +1

    I saw them play "Dawn and Demise" live in philly. They only played on 1 or two tours i believe before they fell off. I remember just being froze still trying to absorb every second of the song. Wish we had modern phones back then to record it!

  • @bucknaked466f
    @bucknaked466f 7 місяців тому +10

    They played PERFECT live. It was insane.