The strap is meant to go through the belt loop, which will keep it from getting in the way of actually being worn on a belt. I have and use both these knives, and I very much enjoy them both but do admit the BPS performs a bit better thanks to the higher grind and thus better edge angle.
I have a BPS adventurer which I like more than my Mora garberg. Wooden handles and leather sheaths verses plastic handles and plastic sheaths. The nice thing is that BPS has a real scandi grind. Even my Mora garberg has a secondary bevel. Which was a turn off when I finally got one. The polished finish probably makes it easier to split through wood, less drag than even the Condor. I have Beavercraft strops which are excellent and they make lots of great wood carving knives. I think Beavercraft is better at making wood carving utensils not so much large knives, although I have not checked their catalog recently. Beavercraft also makes just plain leather strops which are not attached to Wood and I keep one in my backpack. For me these two companies together make a good combination one for knives and one for keeping my knives sharp. Canada. Very sad for Ukraine.
Awesome review, thanks for the side by side. I have a BPS B1 SSH (stainless steel version) that i really like. I was considering the BeaverCraft, because, well, you can never have too many knives, lol. But after watching your review, it just doesn't seem worth it. Thanks again for the video!
I have the beavercraft bsh1 and it's a great knife. It has a different sheath with great retention and tip doesn't quite hit the bottom. I can turn it upside down and shake it and it won't fall out at all. Holds a great edge and very ergonomic handle.i believe it's a 4.9 inch blade and a full 8th inch thick. I love that knife. I believe it was 31$ when I ordered it on amazon
Thanks. And I’m thankful that I got the bps knife. Mora was my second choice,but I like the look of wood more. Nice to have my purchase justified. Thanks
Just like the bluing on the Beavercraft. The sheath will be handled with kid gloves. Seem like there were issues with the featherstickerer not necessarily the knives.
1066 steel. A bit soft. These knives look like the Condor Bushlore, which is much harder steel at 1075. LionSteel is 1095, probably too hard and brittle.
You'd be surprised. My beavercraft holds an amazing edge and I abuse the hell out of that knife. Sharpens scary sharp with very little effort. I was a bit skeptical myself but it's proven itself 100x over
Metallurgist's opinion: The knives look good, especially those without a Scandi grind. However, I see an issue with the steel used, 1066. It will sharpen easily, but the edge retention won’t be great for the price. The exception is the Beta model, made from D2. As a metallurgist, when I compare 1066 steel with 0.65% carbon to something like a carbon Mora made from C100 (almost identical to 1095) with 1% carbon and significantly better edge retention, the BPS knife doesn’t fare well in terms of price-to-edge retention ratio. Essentially, you’re paying an extra $45 for a wooden handle and leather sheath, but not for the steel. For example, the Ganzo G807, which costs around $18, has two to three times better edge retention than the 1066 BPS, and 9cr14mov steel is fairly corrosion-resistant (with 14% chromium helping with edge longevity). Sure, it has a plastic handle, but 9cr14mov is a much superior steel to 1066. If BPS knives were made from 1095/C100, O1, O2, or ideally 80crv2, I wouldn’t complain. But in this case, I don’t think BPS knives are worth the money (with the exception of the Beta model in D2). It’s also important to note that different steels can be processed differently. BUCK’s 420HC proves that even an average steel can perform well with excellent heat treatment. Unfortunately, that’s not the case with BPS. Look up "BPS knife edge retention," and you’ll see that among the tested knives, BPS in 1066 performed the worst, making around 50-60 cuts of sisal rope. Even a carbon Mora costing $7 handles 90-100 cuts. The Ganzo G807, at $18, does 160-170 cuts, and knives made from 9cr18mov or 14c28n reach 250 cuts. BPS makes visually interesting knives, but given the 1066 steel and its average heat treatment, they’re more suited for collectors or occasional users who might cut a stick a few times a year. (And they’ll be surprised how quickly the blade rusts when not in use).
Thanks for this comprehensive reply, You got a point. I guess if you're seriously in bushcraft you don't get a 1066 knife. Some people do bushcraft on the side. if you want a practice knife that looks good and is easy to sharpen and cheap it might be a good option. I have it as a knife to compare to other knives. (what do you get for 50 dollar) But I never use it as my goto knife. Greetings Wim
@@traveler5898 That was my point, BPS is not cheap. For price of BPS you can have better knife or even much cheaper. Looks good, thats all. Remember Old Hickory knives. They are US made, 1095 steel (only little bit softer than could be), let's say it's similar processing level. Old Hickory is cheaper than BPS. In my country BPS knives costs about 60-70 bucks and we are really close to Ukraine (CZ).
OK, here they sell for 35-55 euro depending on the model. Still not cheaper than a Mora but not too expensive. I understand why you would buy an other knife. Enjoy the outdoors Greetings Wim
You are right, I'm always speeding things up so my son doesn't get bored filming. And as a teacher I always want to keep the tempo up. But I will try to slow down in the next video. Thanks for the tip. Greetings Wim
I'm going out on a limb here and guessing the BPS is from Ukraine and the Beavercraft is from Russia. Or Russia occupied Ukraine. The Beavercraft has Russian low quality written all over it. (Anybody ever ridden around in a Lada Nova? Q: How do you double the value of a Soviet car? A: You fill the tank.) Not only did the Beavercraft knife fail some of the important tests but it looks ugly--the sheath is worse--and the box is flimsy crap. Russians might be trying to steal market share from Ukraine. Otherwise, why in the world would Ukraine legitimately want to undercut a very good product (BPS) with a third rate knock-off?
The strap is meant to go through the belt loop, which will keep it from getting in the way of actually being worn on a belt. I have and use both these knives, and I very much enjoy them both but do admit the BPS performs a bit better thanks to the higher grind and thus better edge angle.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Greetings Wim
I have a BPS adventurer which I like more than my Mora garberg. Wooden handles and leather sheaths verses plastic handles and plastic sheaths. The nice thing is that BPS has a real scandi grind. Even my Mora garberg has a secondary bevel. Which was a turn off when I finally got one. The polished finish probably makes it easier to split through wood, less drag than even the Condor. I have Beavercraft strops which are excellent and they make lots of great wood carving knives. I think Beavercraft is better at making wood carving utensils not so much large knives, although I have not checked their catalog recently. Beavercraft also makes just plain leather strops which are not attached to Wood and I keep one in my backpack. For me these two companies together make a good combination one for knives and one for keeping my knives sharp. Canada. Very sad for Ukraine.
To me a "true" scandi will chip under hard use. So I always put a secondary level on my bush knives.
Awesome review, thanks for the side by side. I have a BPS B1 SSH (stainless steel version) that i really like. I was considering the BeaverCraft, because, well, you can never have too many knives, lol. But after watching your review, it just doesn't seem worth it. Thanks again for the video!
Thanks, I know people put a scandi on the blade that works better. But you might as wel get an other BPS....:)
I have the beavercraft bsh1 and it's a great knife. It has a different sheath with great retention and tip doesn't quite hit the bottom. I can turn it upside down and shake it and it won't fall out at all. Holds a great edge and very ergonomic handle.i believe it's a 4.9 inch blade and a full 8th inch thick. I love that knife. I believe it was 31$ when I ordered it on amazon
Thanks. And I’m thankful that I got the bps knife. Mora was my second choice,but I like the look of wood more. Nice to have my purchase justified. Thanks
Thank you very much, now i know which one to choose!
Beaver knifes are not bad for the price. And I had them out there. And had no problems like you had.
Very good review. I am now a subsciber. Gonna be checking out your videos
Thanks appreciated! Joker Ember vs Bushlore coming up soon......
I have a BPS and the BeaverCraft.
I cant stop the BPS from chipping.
I never had a problem with the BeaverCraft.
Great reviews of these 2 knives. Many thanks.
Just like the bluing on the Beavercraft. The sheath will be handled with kid gloves. Seem like there were issues with the featherstickerer not necessarily the knives.
Приємно що ножі які виробляють в моїй країні знайшли стільки хороших відгуків у Світі.
Якщо ви робите хороший продукт за хорошу ціну, інакше навряд чи може бути.
Greetings Wim
1066 steel. A bit soft. These knives look like the Condor Bushlore, which is much harder steel at 1075. LionSteel is 1095, probably too hard and brittle.
Lion steel is m390
You'd be surprised. My beavercraft holds an amazing edge and I abuse the hell out of that knife. Sharpens scary sharp with very little effort. I was a bit skeptical myself but it's proven itself 100x over
I'm hooked on huang fu knives can't beat the price or the quality
I wouldn't hit the back of the knife where the handle scales are, you will break them eventually.
Metallurgist's opinion:
The knives look good, especially those without a Scandi grind. However, I see an issue with the steel used, 1066. It will sharpen easily, but the edge retention won’t be great for the price. The exception is the Beta model, made from D2. As a metallurgist, when I compare 1066 steel with 0.65% carbon to something like a carbon Mora made from C100 (almost identical to 1095) with 1% carbon and significantly better edge retention, the BPS knife doesn’t fare well in terms of price-to-edge retention ratio. Essentially, you’re paying an extra $45 for a wooden handle and leather sheath, but not for the steel.
For example, the Ganzo G807, which costs around $18, has two to three times better edge retention than the 1066 BPS, and 9cr14mov steel is fairly corrosion-resistant (with 14% chromium helping with edge longevity). Sure, it has a plastic handle, but 9cr14mov is a much superior steel to 1066.
If BPS knives were made from 1095/C100, O1, O2, or ideally 80crv2, I wouldn’t complain. But in this case, I don’t think BPS knives are worth the money (with the exception of the Beta model in D2).
It’s also important to note that different steels can be processed differently. BUCK’s 420HC proves that even an average steel can perform well with excellent heat treatment. Unfortunately, that’s not the case with BPS. Look up "BPS knife edge retention," and you’ll see that among the tested knives, BPS in 1066 performed the worst, making around 50-60 cuts of sisal rope. Even a carbon Mora costing $7 handles 90-100 cuts. The Ganzo G807, at $18, does 160-170 cuts, and knives made from 9cr18mov or 14c28n reach 250 cuts.
BPS makes visually interesting knives, but given the 1066 steel and its average heat treatment, they’re more suited for collectors or occasional users who might cut a stick a few times a year. (And they’ll be surprised how quickly the blade rusts when not in use).
Thanks for this comprehensive reply,
You got a point. I guess if you're seriously in bushcraft you don't get a 1066 knife. Some people do bushcraft on the side. if you want a practice knife that looks good and is easy to sharpen and cheap it might be a good option.
I have it as a knife to compare to other knives. (what do you get for 50 dollar) But I never use it as my goto knife.
Greetings Wim
@@traveler5898 That was my point, BPS is not cheap. For price of BPS you can have better knife or even much cheaper. Looks good, thats all. Remember Old Hickory knives. They are US made, 1095 steel (only little bit softer than could be), let's say it's similar processing level. Old Hickory is cheaper than BPS. In my country BPS knives costs about 60-70 bucks and we are really close to Ukraine (CZ).
OK, here they sell for 35-55 euro depending on the model. Still not cheaper than a Mora but not too expensive. I understand why you would buy an other knife.
Enjoy the outdoors
Greetings Wim
May be bsh 3 is not sharp enough?
Could be, before I started it cut paper fine. Having said that, beter sharpening could be the answer.
Greetings Wim
Seems to have a poor grind angle on the BPS .
In what way do you think it's poor.
Greetings Wim
@@traveler5898 Sorry I ment the Beavercraft
@@traveler5898 Sorry I ment the Beavercraft
yes that makes sense...
I think all the knives would perform better, if you just slowed down a little in your working.😉
You are right, I'm always speeding things up so my son doesn't get bored filming. And as a teacher I always want to keep the tempo up. But I will try to slow down in the next video. Thanks for the tip.
Greetings Wim
Hi.
Great review.
I have to say the BPS knife looks way better imho.
I may purchase one on the strength of this review.
All the best.👍🏾😉🇬🇧
You're right, BPS is the better choice I think.
The beavercraft is a butter knife.
butter?
@@traveler5898 Butter from cows; that you put on your bread/toast.
aah i get it ... thanks....
As long as it’s NOT Bushlore by Condor, it’s OK…
@@ilijabosnjak76What’s the matter with the Bushlore? I have their large Hudson Bay knife, I really like it, but that’s my only experience with Condor.
I'm going out on a limb here and guessing the BPS is from Ukraine and the Beavercraft is from Russia. Or Russia occupied Ukraine. The Beavercraft has Russian low quality written all over it. (Anybody ever ridden around in a Lada Nova? Q: How do you double the value of a Soviet car? A: You fill the tank.) Not only did the Beavercraft knife fail some of the important tests but it looks ugly--the sheath is worse--and the box is flimsy crap. Russians might be trying to steal market share from Ukraine. Otherwise, why in the world would Ukraine legitimately want to undercut a very good product (BPS) with a third rate knock-off?
You might have a point there.