XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 Review
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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I ran into some problems with this pen display. They improved the initial activation rate at the pen but it also seems like it took a step backwards in terms of the actual drawing quality. This isn't so much a review but my process of how I went about trouble shooting the device.
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Your ‘review’ is a perfect example of how much work can go into a ‘simple’ 10min youtube video. Well done. New style works great (for me). TY
We love Brad for his thorough and truthful reviews.
Really good review. I liked how you put the device into the context of how you draw yourself. straight lines are really important and still the acid test of a good tablet. You've been doing this long enough that your opinion really counts, thanks Brad.
Hey Brad! I would really love if you do a video comparing the mechanical wave on lines with different tablets ,anything from cheap to pro Wacom tablets ,iPads ,Xp-pen etc. Same tests all around.
What a thorough review. Other sites exalted the new X-3 tech without mentioning the wobbly lines. While low activation force is a good thing, it's crippled with wobbly lines. I purchased a Huion Kamvas 16 (2021) and was surprised by the straight lines and very good low activation force. The activation force is low enough that I can get the finest lines in my digital pencil drawings. Another thing is the Huion felt nibs which provide excellent friction for pencil and inking. I still prefer the smooth nibs for painting.
I like the new format!
Me too
Hi Aaron Rutten! I watch your videos, didn’t know you watch Brad’s too!😃
@@dzzasterous Yeah, Aaron is just looking for an inspiration how to dismiss any Wacom competition. I have given up on watching Aaron's reviews of anything different than Wacom products, they all should start with "just buy Wacom!"
Hi Aaron, nice to see you so active in not very positive non-Wacom reviews, keep up the good shilling.
@@frieren848 couldn't say it better myself 😜👍
Usually i prefer a more scripted review, but you are one of the few reviewers who made a vlog-style review that I actually enjoyed!
My review of Brad's review is this: it is incredible how much work Brad puts into reviewing these products and even goes as far as to spend money on not one but two more tablets whereas he could simply ask the manufacturers for those to test them out as well but no, he just went and paid for them. Obviously he didn't just spend money just so he would have a video for us, he genuinely wanted to know, be informed about those fresh products so that he also would be on the in, have sound knowledge. Still, what I've come to as a conclusion is Brad is a good reviewer and by good I mean a very sincere and dedicated level good.
P.S.: Is it only me but does anyone else also wonder what he does with all those tablets? Yes, I know this is his job and he may very well be using whichever tablet he feels like using at any time for his job as an artist. Yet, I simply can't keep myself from wondering since I can't get even one display tablet. Then, I find myself hopelessly imagining just how great illustrations I would make if only I had one.
Although, maybe not that hopeless I am. I do have my phone with it's twiglike stylus and I also have Autodesk's Sketchbook downloaded. I try. I still would love to have a display tablet. Yet, I'm good.
Thanks Brad! ( ᐛ )ᕗ
EDIT: Oh and I nearly forgot! I definitely like the new format, if you couldn't tell already. This way it's much more realistic and lets the audience have somewhat of a quasi experience.
😂Yes I do wonder what he does with so many tablets because when I have a new one I just chug it to the corner of my room 🤣🤣 maybe he could sell it to his artist friends?😂
As long as your Tech Reviews remain HONEST
then I don't mind which review style you choose.
Good review by the way :)
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I just started looking into drawing tablets as I've finished a draft of my first novel and now I get to illustrate it. Your reviews have been incredibly helpful! Thank you so much!
I love your review, cuz you keep it honest, clear and short. Many of us don't care about technical hardware, instead what we care about is the experience.
I do love the new format, but I also miss being able to quickly link other friends and artists to the structured videos, because I think they were very clear and thorough but also accessible to people who can't sit through a blog, or aren't a savvy computer person. I sort of work like the tech guru for friends and acquaintances and your videos are probably the #1 source I've linked. Thank you for the great work you do!!
0:08 Brad: I'm getting a lot of mechanical wave.
Me: **laughs in traditional art**
Nice review! Thanks for this.
For the lines that are wavy/inconsistent, I am of the opinion that pressure/tilt sensitivity and line consistency are inversely proportional to each other. The more sensitive a pen is, whether pressure or tilt, the more it picks up very minute fluctuations to the pressure and tilt of the hand. Even if one does use a ruler, there will be inconsistencies to the line in terms of direction (caused by tilt) and width (caused by both pressure and tilt). We really cannot blame the user for this because if you pick up a pencil/brush in real life, there is a certain resistance to paper/canvas from these tools that contribute to consistency of a line/stroke. Similarly, it takes a lot of getting used to digital workstations except this time, without that resistance in the picture (which makes it more difficult to learn, to be honest).
I'm not sure if any of the graphic tablet manufacturers implement an algorithm for sensitivity-to-output translation that mimics real-life hand pressure, because it's definitely NOT linear, and artists have different preferences. That algorithm should look more like a curve or a plateau. Or, better yet, make it configurable by the artist if they want to.
I actually got last year's model - Innovator 16. Almost sprung for this new one
Do you like it so far?
@@pinkrose5286 yes definitely! It's been several weeks now. Great choice
Im too excited for mine so im here to keep looking at it
@@pinkrose5286 My pen grip loosens over time. But it had been solid the past 6 months.
That sword...um....is anybody thinking something else?
yes haha
Haha
Wood...lol
yep
😂😂😂😂
Can you do a side by side comparison of the artist pro 16 and the innovator 16?
I don't get it. why does your pen is doing that wave when drawing lines. I saw other reviewers and they didn't have the same problem your having with the pen.
Yeah i am confused too
@@Someone-ro9gd Same it's good for everyone else they get nice crisp lines with low activation force
@@phantomflame0658 yeah teoh reviewed artist 12 2nd gen and the pen is working fine
@@Someone-ro9gd He also covered this tablet and it looked perfectly fine. I think Michael Clarida Arts has the best "real world" review of this in action. I'm debating getting this or the Huion Kamvas 16 as my first drawing tablet since my budget is around 400 euro. I might save up extra and get the 22 though
@@phantomflame0658 yeah Michael Cladia's review was detailed and very helpful.
I will suggest you to choose devices on the basis of pc you will use is it mac or windows. I think xp pen works good with both windows and mac.
Do research and watch reviews of people who have used it for more than 2 month.
Thank you because of your apple pencil 1 review I bought it yesterday !!!
I like this style with your reviews! It shows that you’re thorough and willing to test out a potential error to give the tech a chance!
OOoooo New XpPen Review. I just got my Artist 24 Pro last night! :D
saving this vid for when i get out of school
This style is far superior, reminds me of your first videos you ever made, which is when I subscribed.
as wavy as an old cintiq 13hd, took wacom 5 years but they eventually fixed the drivers so hopefully they can do that here under 5 months.
Brad may have reviewed a lot of products but can we talk about how he's like literally the best reviewer? I love how professional he is and he has a pleasant voice I love his sense of humour. Brad would be the reason why I would wanna buy all these just to try them 😂 love your reviews Brad and I'm looking forward to more reviews :)
Brad, I am afraid that iPad is not any better regarding the wobbly lines.
I have exactly the same on iPad Pro (12.9, miniled) with Procreate if streamline set to none. Sadly, it will be stronger with using Paperlike. I am not alone, it seems that it is a common phenomena, so that is that - how can we expect not to have on an XP-Pen, when the planet's best digital pencil solution behaves the same?
Yes! Yes! I have the same problem with my big iPad Pro 2018. I thought this was because of a security glass I've put on it. But I am really suprised of the video. Wanted this tablet, but...
My m2 ipad pro doesnt have wobbly line with default screen and pen tip, in fact it is better than the xp pen 24 pro in my class. Only get that issue with the paperlike screen and metal nib. Seems like a distance issue to me.
the new format is fantastic! that cold open made your great vids even better
I like this style of review, keep it up!
Anyone know if they've fixed the line issue on this series since this review?
Hi, Brad! Will you be reviewing the new XP Pen Artist 12 2nd Gen? I'd really like to see the Green one
Yes! I hope he review it
Honestly, if this style is easier to edit and means you can get more done/have more of your time back, it seems like a win-win.
I would love to know , Is the innovator16 better ? ✨
Always experiment with your presentation style ;)
I rushed out and bought mine based on budget - looks and the promise of this new pen.
I must say I agree with the build quality and looks and I knew I wanted a multi-height - multi-angle stand which I happily bought separately.
Now I come from a CorelDRAW and XARA on PC background - (WHY have you never reviewed XARA PRO?) I have used it since Xara began developing for Microsoft Windows, as Acorn Computers struggled for market share. Artworks was rewritten from the ground up for the platform and in 1994 it was released as Xara Studio
I would love to know what you think of it.
So back to XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 - Im getting zero ugly lines - no ticks - no bad tails (In XARA PRO) so if that's your go-to - Gets my recommendation - Bargain too.
Keep up the great channel - wouldn't miss one
Xara is still around?? I see you copied a bit from Wikipedia.
Dang it I already bought one b4 u reviewed it because it was on sale; I noticed a little wave too but I usually just amp the smoothing up to the max when making final lines anyways so it works well for me!
I also concur with this note. Stabilization fixes wobble.
Which one is better the xp pen innovator or pro 16?
Oh thank you for showing my Artwork 🤩
I noticed that you have the same problem with straight line on the test of the wacom cintiq pro 27 but you only mentioned it here. So is this really a problem that come from the tablet? am not sure anymore
i got this tablet last week and im using it rn, and i dont have that problem, my lines come out extremely well and i did not have stabilisation on, i amusing clip studio paint
EDIT : update 💀💀💀💀💀💀 my tablet screen is starting to glitch out and I'm getting jittery lines😐
I actually bought it and it's good, the only problem I have with it seems I can't figure out how to get the tilt to work in Photoshop it works in clip studio only
Also weird the pen lines come out smooth for me but I might just not notice it
Hey can you test if you lost pen pressure when you holding a pen button to use different brush?
I'm using Clip studio and Deco Pro. When I hold the pen button to quick use brush. the brush have no pen pressure.
Thank you if you can test that out.
@@kien9350 sure! I'll test it out once home (working at the moment), and I'll let you know. I did reassign my buttons so I'll try and assign one to change the brush, and see what happens and get back to you.
I thought it bcoz the Os compatibility, he use mac maybe it's better on windows, just assuming
@@kien9350 I'm so sorry I'm a huge scatter brain so I forget stuff easily I tried what you said an no it didn't happen to me it could be the program you use I'm trying to use clip studio now after people recommend it
@@Adam-xq1ny Oh thanks for testing this out Same thing happen when I hold E with pen button in PS too. I thinks this is just how the pen built. But seem like newer tablet doesn't have this issue.
I was worry that all XP-Pen are like this.
Dude this video was great honestly it's seemed more like an in-person conversation which was nice so ty
I love this new format!!
This is so weird. The 16" variations are the only XP-Pen tablets that seem to have major issues. It's really shortsighted to release with known issues. They're trying to position themselves as a cheap but viable alternative. Any table which negates that second goal does major damage to a company still trying to establish their brand.
I got one of these not for 2D; but for 3D; sculpting and texture painting specifically (but i do some 2d too) and for this purpose I absolutely love this particular device.
Can you tell me if you still experience any wobble in 2d
@@aceofspades5638 if i were to do the ruler thing? Yes. In normal everyday use? No, at least not to where i notice it. I do really heavily focus on 3D sculpting and texturing tho, i maybe do an hour or so of 2D work a week
@@mastafoo886 would u say that's a deal breaker also does it have tilt support
@@aceofspades5638 i use the thing for hours a day every day and have not one single time thought "man i wish i spent the money on a cintiq"
Yes, it has tilt support and said tilt support works fine. No rotation support but only a handful of displays total have that and rotations uses are pretty limited anyway.
I personally love mine. Using a creative mounting strategy ive got it mounted on an Ergotron arm (8x 16lb strips of Dual Lock onto a VESA compatible keyboard tray).
Ive got it paired up (peripheral wise) with a wireless Space Mouse Pro and a Logitech G13 keypad. I dont really use the touch dial but the spinner and the rest of the buttons get used and feel good to use. I really aught to do a full review video on this (would be my first ever!) from the standpoint of someone who has had it be their daily driver since launch.
@@mastafoo886 how about when doing line work, how well do u think it preforms also is there a way to get around the wobbling
Oh well, looks like I'll have to wait for them to fix the current issues with a new update b4 I can move on from my 15.6 xp-pen pro to the new pen tablets. Thanks so much for the review Brad!
Hey Brad, yes the Brad with the feet ^^ I prefer the blog style, BUT we really need to see footage > < of you making and drinking coffee. Everybudy knows that what defines blog vlogs is seeing coffee being consumed. It puts us at ease to know that you’re a fellow coffee drinker.
Funny that I have this waves problem on my ipad LOL
Thank you for the video, bro
I liked the vlog style.
Thank you Brad, just purchased Artist Pro 16 today, not try yet. Your video helps alot.
Im planing to get it
But how do u like it? Did they fix the pen problem
I like the informative videos. I honestly don't have a preference of how you do it. Great work. Thanks.
I had a XP-Pen in 2018 and I noticed that while using Photoshop in Windows the wobbly lines would not occur with the canvas zoomed at 100%. The channel Create Now Sleep Later observed in his review of a similar XP-Pen that the combo Windows Ink + Photoshop was causing the effect. I don't think that you are testing all the variables and most of your reviews are rushed. I'm not defending the company behind XP-Pen/Huion because they notably flood the market with those prototypes using youtubers as beta-testers in the process as stated by youtuber Crowne Prince.
I noticed you connected all the cables to a usb hub with a single connection to your laptop/desktop?
Have you tried connecting the xp-pen cables directly to your devices without using a hub. I’ve found in the past that using a hub creates a lag that can potentially be the cause of the wave lines.
Is there still a problem with the lines or has it been resolved?
Idk might have been a preproduction thing. I bought one cause I saw lavandertown’s review and I tried to get wobble and I don’t get any.
Just ordered one to be used in conjunction with Corel Painter Essentials. A new experience for me using the tablet. But Painter essentials does straight lines using the shift key. Generally art rarely needs perfectly straight lines, so hopefully this will not be to restrictive for drawing and painting.
I still have the first gen iPad Pro and first gen Apple pencil and the amount of mechanical wiggle you talk about is kinda a downer. I just learned to live with it but not sure if that wiggle is just a thing that happens with tablets?
tablets these days shouldnt or they are not good
yes! you are not alone!
it’d be amazing if you could review the artist 12 2nd gen by xppen!!🎊🎉🙏
Thank you, Brad, for your review
A bit of feedback that may be a personal preference, but: usually when reviewers show wiggle on a line that's all freehand, I tend to dismiss it. I have no way to gauge how much of that is just the reviewer not being able to draw straight lines or having shaking hands. I *only* trust the ruler test. I think it was the last XP-pen video where you didn't show a ruler test at all and I did miss it. I think it's the most important part of the line waves test.
And I'm not saying that you can't draw straight lines! It's just that I as a viewer can't really tell if the test is really objective without the ruler.
You are 100 % correct, just pay attention to the top part (eraser) of the stylus... A lot of the wobble is result of Brad's hand micro-movements, even when he does the "ruler test". Brad does not have the most stable hand, luckily he is not a brain surgeon 😜🤣
It’s nice that it’s fully laminated. It sucks that it doesn’t come with a stand. I hope they fix the problem with the wavy lines on Macs.
I'm going to wait for a software update, since the tech seems totally capable (as seen in the newer Artist 12 2nd gen) but the driver software is having trouble adjusting to the new pen chip tech.
I think the issue is with hardware level for the wobbly lines. No software or firmware update will fix it.
@@mufeedco Maybe.
Have you tried their newest driver released on Oct 29? If so can you please either verify the wobble is fixed or perhaps do an updated review?
I'm considering getting this, now that its been over a year has the lines issue been fixed?
Thank you for the review, Brad! May I kindly request a review of the new xppen artist series 2nd gen? The ones with the colours! I've been thinking of getting it since the pink one is so pretty and it's small so maybe it would be portable for college 🙏🏻❤
Any style is good style as long as it has a Brad in it!
Yes! been waiting for this thanks. :)
I thought this was a great review! Comfortable yet digging in where necessary. Personally I think that over producing something can take away from the subtleties of the information… Just my thoughts
Hey brad I recently got this tablet and i have no computer wake at all (I have a high end gaming laptop idk if that helps) but like I did lines like you did no stabilization, tried all my pens and I barely got any wobble
Do you still use this and how has it held up? I’m interested in getting one but I’m concerned about some reviews online saying it stops working right after the warranty period a year later. What has your experience been?
@@OneDayKD I still have mine and it is past warranty, though they have a updated graphic tablet same size but a little cheaper (it’s because it’s like 94srgb that I would look into because the only issue I have it that because all the devices are under that ammount it’s always more vibrant. Just more of a pain to colour correct. But I really haven’t had any issues. I never noticeda line wobble I just personally find it too big and thin for how I draw. I would into the 2nd Gen devices and compare but for casual work it gets the job done.
Though I can see where ppl may have broke there’s because it’s thin, though if you haven’t gotten a tablet or if you aren’t that far I do recommend just a standard pen tablet like the deco.
But if you do end up getting it MAKE AN ACCOUNT, I was an idiot and deleted my order email and did it under a guess so if I did ruin my tablet I wouldn’t get any help. Like seriously keep the boxes write down the order number and everything just in case.
@@OneDayKD but honestly older tablets work as good, and like pen tablets (no graphics) can never fail you and honestly better for posture and back
@@aceinspacepng7495 Thank you!
Thank, You Right to the point my friend!
Good review, I do not have a preference vlog or otherwise tbh. I did want to say on your choice of using wood for the sword you drew, a lot of different cultures use various types of wooden swords to banish evil spirits and undead creatures in their folklore, so wood was a good choice!
Have they fixed the wobbling?
Nope, I bought one this month and there were a lot of wobbles. So I sent it back and replaced it with a deco pro medium, and got the rest of the money refunded.
@@urmomsareola Thanks for confirming. I cancel my shopping basket. Never have had a drawing display and for sure this will not be my first one in that case.
@@roger7641 you're very welcome. it was a bad experience for me, and it was actually my first ever tablet as well... but at least, the customer support was good. Also, they did say that it was only one in a hundred, but I decided to not take the risk.
I didn't get the full refund I wanted though. I was at first going to get a full refund and get a wacom cintiq 16... but I couldn't get a full refund. That was why I opted to replace it with a deco pro and get the rest refunded instead.
I am still thinking to buy the wacom cintiq 16... but I think I'll learn the ropes with the deco pro first, since I don't want it to go to waste.
I feel like the vlog style feels more real while your other style feels a lot more to the point on the products pros and cons
The new format came as a surprise at the beginning, but it quickly grew on me. I think a hybrid approach would be ideal: the writing and spontaneity of the vlog format + the well composed A-Roll of the regular scripted video.
On an unrelated note, I would like to suggest adding a "Date of Review" info to your best tablets list. Since it's an ever-expanding list, with new entries mixed with the old, I think knowing when this product was reviewed (or more precisely, when that opinion was formed) would benefit the user experience. Even though people could just click the video and see the upload date, it would be nice for that information to be more apparent, especially for buyers who aren't knee-deep in the variety of drawing tablets that are released every year.
Hey Brad, did you experience the problem where the right click on the canvas (Krita) doesnt show the pop up palette? I had the same exact model (Pro 16).
Both styles are wonderful
I liked this new video format, make it closer with us viewers
Hi Brad! I am now looking through your videos, trying to find the best notebook, that has a pen for drawing etc. I need a new one for school, but every time I look at your video, you say something along the lines "For art, not best" So I wanted to ask you, what would you recommend to me?
I think I prefer today's style blog. It worked me...told me what I want to know quickly. Keep it. P.S.Don't feel bad, my XP tablet does the same thing, so it's nice to find out I'm not alone....👍😁
The one setting that these Wacom competitors lack, literally one simple setting "Click and Tap" for the stylus, instantly make them a pass for me, regardless of how close they come or even exceed Wacom in certain areas. I feel like I'm the only one that uses the stylus like this, I find the default "Hover Click" so uncomfortable to use, as I work in 3d and constantly have to make use of the Middle and Right mouse clicks (mapped to the stylus buttons).
I'm really in a bind. My old Intuos Pro has no display but I used it for years, until the plastic cone on the stylus cracked and broke, which holds the internals in and one of the internal springs is missing. Despite these parts being worth less than $0.05, Wacom refuses to help me do anything other than purchase a new stylus.
Appalled, I want to find a different brand, but they're all notorious for bad customer service and shoddy performance. Artists basically don't have options in this market.
Multiple tablets go wobbly, Brad draws a veiny wooden sword with two curvy twigs wrapping around each other at the hilt for banished clubbing. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Definately like the change it style of the reviews.
the style was really cool in my opinion but why don't you add a question part where you can answer few (3-4) question from the comments
It's odd to me that they did almost the opposite of what I wanted them to do. The pen is worse, the screen is smaller, and the aspect ratio is still the 16:9 "Widescreen TV Watching" shape. I moved to Android so i don't have much reason to care, but I started with XP-Pen so I want them to do better
what xppen model do you use?
This is just a theory but... I want to put it out there. If you ever open a drawing tablet like this, the board inside basically has traces that cross over each other, vertical on one side of the board and horizontal on the other. This is apparently how it tracks the position of the pen; the traces seem to basically be a matrix of antenna coils. But onto the theory- I'm wondering if the density of the traces/how close the 'windings' are has any impact on the line being wavy.
Great review! Have they fixed the wobble on the line drawing yet? I think I love the design of this model
Great honest review thanks. BTW am I the only one that saw what you were actually drawing.
That's why I go with huion. This jitter on the digitizer is on many other pen displays too.
Why is the X3 Pen WORSE than the original??
New style video works for me! No complaints, just don't forget to inject your usual humor into it.
😁😁we are here early for the glove dance
How does it work in a 3d program like blender? Thinking about getting a display tablet for sculpting and texture painting in blender.
Yeah I enjoyed that Brad! do more this way
Does it have a back stand?
I love that sword
Great review, but your twig sword is going to bend and break the moment you try to club someone with it. You need more support in the middle area.
Very honest review👍😁 keep going❤
Decided to get one of these or the regular version. How much does the display itself weigh? Can't find the weight of both anywhere. Since I want take it with me to locations it would be great to know how light or heavy they are.
16pro or 15.6 pro which is better?
Hey Brad I really appreciate your channel. I feel like I’ve watched most your videos and not seen this answered. (If I’m wrong I’m sorry) but do you use screen protectors on your screens. I’ve always used wacom cintiq and just jumped to xp pen and don’t know if I should get a protector
As a subscriber i like the new format - it's fun to watch!
But if i were a new viewer, googling the tablet review by name, to see if i want to buy it, i would appreciate a structured video more.