If the games you play are supported on the Mac, it can be a great experience. I have a PC w/ a 3080 and an M3 Macbook Pro. My PC sits idle most of the time and I use the M3 for gaming and development work in UE5.
I think that buying top of the line PC at least once in a lifetime is a nice experience ;) Also "crazy" people that bought 1080Ti when it came out and was so expensive, actually won and could play comfortably for nearly a decade, avoiding mining craze and pandemic GPU prices. And because 1080Ti has 11GB of VRAM it can STILL handle 1440p nowadays.
@@volkskrieg8735 Back when the RTX 2080 came out, my GTX 670 system started dying. I had to choose between the 11 GB 1080ti or the 8 GB 2080 at the time, and I nervously chose the 2080. 6 years later I'm very glad I made that decision even though my 2080 struggles with less vram. The reason I'm still playing with my 2080 is simple: DLSS. I would have had to replace my 1080ti a few years ago because of its inability to utilize that amazing technology.
Nice humble review, did he enjoy his 4090? Yes he did. Did he feel he could have saved 40% of the money, and went for a lower end GPU? Yes he did. Would he buy a 5090 or 6090 for god knows how much Nvidia will charge? NO he probably will not.
well below the average person has no idea that hi fidelity gaming motion/ graphics was proven to stimulate the same part of the brain as what opiate drugs do, so as compared to drug addictions, buying the top-of-the-line gaming rig ever 2-3 years is way freaking cheaper than spending that cash on narcotics. Heck the amount of money i saved when i stopped smoking, I was able to buy a PC that placed in the top 5% fastest pc's built in 2024. and can not wait to place my order for a 5090.
@@chinnerchilla Absolutely. I just don't think anyone should use a comparison to drugs and their effects as a justification. That is quite harmful. Similar reactions in the brain also have degrees, interpretations, and applicabilities. Just buy what you want after proper considerations and have fun.
@@FrozenVayneGames I am a PC Builder and advisor. And almost all the RTX4090 setups I built or advised I paired it with 1440p monitor and not a 4K monitor. Many others in the community questioned it like why not a 4K monitor to go with that Powerful setup. It is the matter of longevity as you said. I expect those guys to use the PC for good 5-6Yrs. And sadly RTX4090 is not capable of pushing 4K to 60fps over that long period of time. 1440p on the other-hand it can manage comfortably even after years with new titles that drop over time.
@@KING_DRANZER you're in the same boat as me, the amount of people I get talking about 4k gaming, especially those coming from console with no real idea of what the systems can/can't do tend to bring the expectations back to earth, show them a card within budget, usually 4070 or lower chugging in a RT work load in real life at 4k/upscaled and most decide that RT is too expensive and leave very happy with a good value card, usually a 6750xt for 1080p and 7800xt for a 1440p rig, lately most people have been sold on AFMF2 since reviewing likes to push doss but not the stuff the AMD cards can do, industry is completely backwards currently, 2 years ago 4090 was proclaimed to be "over kill" now it's kina become a joke, what you get for the money isn't even worth it anymore. £400+ for a 4060Ti is the biggest problem though, especially when similar priced cards don't need dlss to perform.
I like this style of review . There are very few reviewers focussing on the subjective experience of owning such hardware rather than just raw FPS. I like the visuals and eye candy and have a 4k144 32 inch powered by a 4080 Super. The 4090 would suit me better but £1800 is too much to pay just so you don't need to compromise settings in new titles. (The 4080 Super can do 4k100+ native in many cross gen titles which is what I mostly play , and 4k60+ with DLSS/some compromises). I bought the 4080 Super to replace a dead 2080ti on an aging 8700k system which I'll replace in the next 18 months. There I do like the idea of buying top end components for peace of mind (thinking 9950x3d/x870e board/64gb ddr5)- I didn't think I'd get 6 and a half years out of those parts. So in my mind it's justified for a platform, maybe not with a GPU so much.
if ur doing strictly gaming, get the 7800x3d. it's the one i have and its legit the best purchase ive made out of my entire pc build as it's the best gaming cpu on the market currently
I really relate to this video. I built my first pc in 2012 for $450 and it understandably struggled to run modern games past 2014. I had intended on upgrading it for basically a decade, but I was broke and busy due to college, med school, and then residency. Coming out of residency one of my first big purchases was building a brand new pc with a 4080 super and ryzen 7800x3d. This thing flawlessly runs any game I throw at it at max settings and is basically silent. It feels like my waiting to upgrade paid off and I'm happy knowing that I likely can get another 10 years out of this pc lol.
I recently got a 4090 has well, I find myself using it 1-4 times a week, depending on my work schedule, it’s a nice piece of mind that you have to not upgrade for another 3-5 years, although I don’t regret buying it
I used a ryzen 3600x and 1660 super for 5 years and it still works, Now I have 4080super/rzyen 7 7800x3d, I'll be good until 2030 when I make my third computer. You got way more then 3-5 years out of a 4090
it all comes down to how much you value your time and quality of experience , for example , people who really really really enjoy listening to music buy very very expensive speakers , you can hear music from a 12$ earphone from the Chinese market but you can also spend 2 grand for monitor audio speakers and hear the same songs , the difference is the quality of sound ,depth of quality , volume , and overall value of your experience
i agree, but having the game run well makes the game way more enjoyable. when i dont have to worry about the game looking bad or stutterring, the game is much more enjoyable.
1440p 165hz is a different experience it's like saying a luxury car is the same as a regular one since they both are meant to drive sure they do the same thing but one just does it better
Nice video. I have a 4090 with a 14900k and am glad I did not buy the 4080 which I would have regretted. I play at 2k and its just fun to not care about fps at all. This is my fourth PC build and in my previous 3 I always skimped on the cpu or some other parts to save money so its nice to go all out if you can afford it. I always compare the 4090 to a high end Iphone pro max which is about the same price and Apple has no problem selling tens of millions of them.
@@yamsbeansTwo things here. He compared the expensive 4090 to an expensive phone because both are technically not worth the money but still be sold. Second: 4090 is a GPU. iPhone is nothing but a CPU paired with a GPU utilizing RAM, who itself accesses data through your storage who's fixed on a motherboard where the frame will be displayed on a screen fixed to a case.
Funny thing is I have a 4080 super and rzyen 7 7800x3d and play every single game in 4k maxxed out settings. Glad I didn't waste another thousand on the 4090 honestly. Would of been the same experience except extra 15 fps.
Same build and I am loving it. Idk what people are talking about with “only a 4090 can play the latest games.” You can easily play just about everything on the 4080 Super at 4K. Even if you need upscaling, at 4K DLSS performance upscaling is better than 1440p DLSS Quality lol. Though I’ve never needed to use more than quality on any games I actually play, and I almost always prefer quality to native (it looks better imo)
The funny thing is, while I love having a powerful card such as a 4090, I often lock my FPS to 90 - 100FPS as I feel like it feels nice and fluid for the games I play plus it dramatically reduces the power draw of my 4090. So... effectively I could have saved a lot and bought a 4080 as I essentially handicap my card by limiting the FPS but then again there are some cases where only a 4090 will even hit 90 - 100 FPS so it still works out worth it for me.
Why dont you undervolt it? I have undervolted mine to 2760mhz @0975mv and limit my fps at 138 to stay in the gsync limit of my monitor, and the card rarely goes above 400w and temps stay below 64c. I have had it for almost 2 years now, and zero issues.
@@joshh8888 I concur. It's like complaining about your sports car's gas mileage lmfao. Which would be significantly more expensive than the electricity to use the 4090(and the AC to offset the heat) unless electricity is expensive in his area. I know my power bills break down (with my 7900xt and 850w PSU) is like 90% AC 8% appliances and 2% PC(it says entertainment but thats the only thing that fall in that category). Idk I wish he would have said something about syncing to his refresh rate instead, at least that would have made sense.
I had my 1060 pc build for my first pc for about 4 years and when I save enough money I upgrade to a 3070ti build 2 years ago and that upgrade was insane from the performance I was used to getting. Even to this day I don’t plan on upgrading anytime soon. Just like you said,I could mostly throw any game at it and not have to worry if I could play it or not.
I think any honest PC lover would definitely buy top-tier specs if they could afford it. You really hit the nail on the head when you said one of the things you really loved about your build, was the peace of mind, in knowing that it could handle just about anything you could throw at it - who doesn’t want that! Great video, and thank you for sharing.
My experience with a 4090 setup: I've always been a console gamer, never owned a PC before in my life, mainly sticking to PlayStation because of the convenience of just sitting down and playing instantly and I thought getting a PC would be a pain. I allready have a PS5 and a 55inch LG C2 OLED so it was a solid pair as is. I don't know what happend but I just woke up in January and decided I wanted a PC, the idea of running games at 120FPS+, native 4K with RT was very appealing, especially considering i always loved the idea of playing games at max settings and see their full potential I had two options, eaither get a mid range build and see how i liked it or go for the best of the best and hope I liked it, the main thing i wanted was something that would top my PS5 I decided to go for the latter, for a 4090, 7800X3D, 32GB of DDR5 RAM and the AW3225QF 240HZ, 4K OLED monitor to top it off. All in all (got a really good deal on a 4090) came to £3000 (monitor made up £1000 of that. Had the build since April. Do I regret it? Hell no, it's another level compared to console and running everything at max settings is a blast, I do think it was overkill, especially because my main goal was to top my PS5 but it really is a great experience when I game. If you have the funds it's definitely worth having it atleast once, especially considering a GPU of that spec will last you a long time. However a 4070 would likely do a similar thing, but having no limits and never having to make compromises in power is really nice
Great review! I own a 4090 and a 9800x3d, which as you mentioned it's definitely worth for someone who prioritize visual to high fps like myself. But for somebody who more or less want to game on 2k high fps, it's not a need.
I bought a brand new RTX 4080 on sale and it was cheaper than most RTX 4070 TI SUPER gpus was definitely a no brainer. We all live once, I wanted a ultimate build I finally accomplished that. At least you can say you had one and enjoyed it. 💯
I just bought a 4080 super and I honestly hope and I feel like this thing should last me over 5 years. I'm about to dump over $3k in my build and yes, that's one hell of a pill to swallow but hey, like you said, piece of mind. I'll have a system that'll last me far longer without having to upgrade every other year or so. I hope it'll be tons of fun for years to come. Especially since I'm jumping from a 1050ti laptop.
@@QuintsXI Yeah I’m getting more confident in it lasting maybe a bit more after that since I’ll most stick around 1440p gaming. Just got a 7600x3d for micro center. Will most likely upgrade to a higher core count in the future once amd releases their x3d’s for their 9000 chips.
60fps being your minimum bar when you own a fucking rtx 4090 should pretty clearly indicate that the people saying optimization is a problem might have a point. My 2080 + i7 8700 clevo p870 (Desktop Replacement "Laptop") is mostly in the same boat as your hypothetical, at least GPU wise, and I'm getting a 9900k soon, so it'll be close enough on CPU as well, at 1100 all in. I play in 1440p 120hz due to that being my laptops panel spec.
yeah or get a 7000x3d chip as a bare minimum if you want to go below anything below 4k for this card, like since he does content creation, i would probably reccomend a 7950x3d or something crazy like that
People love to discuss bottlenecks and whatever between GPU and CPU and RAM and always forget that there's no point in having a mid or high end PC if your monitor fucking sucks.
I got a 4090 rog strix OC with a 14700KF, all in a custom waterloop, 8 tb of ssd (990 pro), 64 gb of fast DDR5, oled LG C3 TV and full hifiman hifi audio system. Yes the experience is really something amazing. And given my needs, it does very well with professional applications/tasks and gaming. The electricity it needs is relative though. Full day gaming will indeed cost a bit, but overall it's not that much. It can even serve as heating for my whole apartment. 😎
I feel you on a impulse purchase. I am a day one owner of my 4090 MSI gaming Trio version, I did indeed purchase at the msrp launch price so I feel very happy about that! I am rocking a i7 13700k and people say I should’ve bought a i9 I do indeed have the same display as you I’m not a 4k gamer but I do appreciate eye candy and I rarely play newer games these days. Still play cod bo3, fallout 4, fallout 76, Warzone, and Cyberpunk 2077. Is mainly my go to games and has been for the last 2 years now which is crazy but that’s what brings joy to me as these games are always full the brim on doing something different, besides the long two years now it has been a blessing and in the same boat won’t really need change my pc for the next 5-6 years. See how I feel in 2026-2027
Power draw is a real problem with that card or cards that high wattage. One way to combat power draw on those not so demanding games is undervolting your gpu. I have an undervolt profile for my 4090 that I use when playing "light" titles. For example, in RE2 I was able to get my card to run the game at 4k 120 at 270 watts!
Im buying a new pc, and obviously i am very excited to be able to play any game high settings at 60fps+. But also i love the idea of having a pc i dont have to spend hours squeezing fps out of it, or waiting 5 minutes for it to boot, or fixing other issues. When i get it i can imagine how refreshing it will be to click something and it just pops up instantly.
Bought a 4090 build just like this a while ago and I'm having pretty much the same experience. I really hope it'll last me, I don't think I'll upgrade for a long long long time. Loved the vid man.
For Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 (and the upcoming 2024) it absolutely is worth it if you run 4K HDR and high end VR. OC'd direct die 14900KS, 96GB RAM and 4090 with a MoRa 420 for cooling. Looking forward to the 5090/Titan.
Its What you Love , so Yeah Go For It. I just got a 4090 base rig and know it's gonna last me for at least 5 years. software is better optimized now. Enjoy it! 👍
My philosophy is: If you spend "too little" and get something you are not satisfied with; you have wasted your money. If you pay "too much" for something but you enjoy the thing you bought; you have gotten something for your money.
I feel like, you do this sort of thing as a once in a lifetime experience for the satisfaction. I built a top of the line system in 2022, but life happened and I ended up homeless and stored it with someone. well, 2 years later I got it back at my new place and it still runs like I just built it in 2022. Hopefully it'll last a long time more, in order to make up the lost years. Good video all around.
Great honest review. I have always felt that if a person is a PC gamer they should at least one time in their life build a top tier performing gaming PC. Let's be honest, most PC gamers usually play on mid tier specd PCs and when upgrading GPUs are usually looking at the same tier of the newer generation. It may or may not be completely worth it for the avg gamer. But it's quite an experience owning a top performing gaming PC that allows you to play any and every game at the highest settings and not having to worry about it. Like I said, everyone should do it at least once in their life because life is way too short. Enjoy this hobby that we all spend many hrs doing.
I have a 7900xtx and 7800x3d, one of the reasons that I built it is that I dont intend to upgrade again for another 10 years if possible. I built a 290x and fx8350 in 2014 and it managed to run spiderman on medium settings in 2022/3. I skipped the whole am4 gen but was able to still enjoy most of the games. The minimum requirement doesn't mean that the game wont run. It only indicates that it won't be at a standard that developer wants you to experience the game. Now that we have fsr and fluid frames GPU longevity has increased.
How long have you had the 7900xtx and 7800x3d? I just made the switch from the intel/nvidia combo and upgraded to those parts as well and was wondering how well games run and how light multi tasking performs.
@@pmao I have had it running since Aug 2023. The games run very well at 4k obviously if you intend to run it at 1080p it handles that with ease. The only issues that I have had with games is running them with radeon adrenaline sometimes games don't like settings being duplicated you have to pick either the game manages it or adrenaline does. However, if the game doesn't like adrenaline it will just crash. So configuration can take a while to get right. As for light multitasking I have never had an issue with it. I run rainmeter, start 11, fences, playnite, hwinfo, display fusion on a triple monitor set up and still use multiple browsers and programs without any issues. I do have 64gb of ram though. The only thing I ran into is that they run hotter than my 290x and FX8350 combo. I was quite surprised but that is due to the CCD being stacked on top of the cores. I idle around 45c on the die and around 20-25c on the cores. Normal usage is around 50c with all the background apps and around 30-45 on the cores.
@@ImakeTanks LOL maybe maybe not but consoles won't have that. 🤣. Most gaming companies will make games that will run perfectly fine on the 7900XTX + 7800x3d. I'll be fine. 😂
I bought a 7900 xtx on launch and it's perfect for my use, 4k gaming on a TV, played all major releases on it from the last 4 years. Hopefully I can skip a generation at least. But a 4090 would be great, sometimes I miss RT cababilities but honestly it's such a small visual difference for so much cost that I'm not sure yet, except for Portal RTX which I plugged my old 3070 to play because is awesome indeed.
Im buying a 4090 soon and THIS review is my exact thoughts! I dont care how the next gen would do compared to the 4090, all I love is the fact that this thing will be a beast at handling games from now till 5-8 years in time with no struggle! Especially because of the 24 gb? I now have little worry about. Perfect and sensible review. Love this.
The biggest regret and remorse comes when your parts are superceeded and everything you spent so much money on looses value by the day. Chasing the best new PC parts is a fools game (unless you can afford to throw that much money at it)
High-end parts tend to lose value faster than mid-range options, so I’d prefer to go with a mid-range option now and upgrade in two years for better technology and cost savings, rather than sticking with a single card for 3 to 4 years. Plus, I can use my older cards to upgrade my secondary rig.
@@FrozenVayneGames yeeeah but there's a difference between splurging for the sake of splurging and being sensible. Also when everything you bought gets superseded you will feel that remorse even more. But it is an individual thing.. I mean you can afford to do it and not incur any sort of penalty then more power to you!
I like to play on 32:9 and love VR so the 4090 was a must for me. Getting a 5090 as soon as I can so I have that peace of mind and to move the 4090 to my second pc that's lacking a GPU atm. But yeah, you don't NEED high end hardware to enjoy PC gaming, but it's a nice feeling nonetheless.
Thank you for your experience. As a lifelong gamer i think getting the best of the best gaming machine, at one time, is something everyone thought of getting at least once.
I had this experience in 90s, when my father received a PC from work (he was a main CEO) and it was a god damned PENTIUM 90 when the high end was basically 486 DX and many ppl were on 386 CPUs. That pentium 90 was so far ahead of everything it was insane. :D I think I was 14 years old. EDIT: It had a PC speaker, and I soldered in a active speakers to it, and than in few months I burned the whole computer, luckily it was in a warranty and they covered it...
Can imagine that for somebody with your preferences the rig is overkill. I was considering getting this for the graphically demanding titles, perhaps cp77 with PT or gta 6 whenever it's gonna launch on pc. Might hold off for 5090 now since 4090 is hard to come by. But highly appreciate the honest words about 4090 ownership!
got almost exact same setup now (5700x3d/3080) and feel like overkill is not overkill. It will take YEARS before mid range closes the perf gap with 4090, so buying high end brings peace of mind for years. I won't need to update for 6 years basically.
My current build is from 2022 a 12700k/RTX 3090/DDR4 system. It was an upgrade my 2012 build of a 3770k/GTX 770 (went 1070 in 2016) and I was playing most things in 1440p with decent settings. These systems are sustainable for quite a few years especially at 1440p.
I appreciate your honest thoughts on owning such a beastly rig! Wish I would have waited for a Nvidia card! I went with an all AMD box when I did a total system overhaul in 2022 and I regret going with a Radeon RX 6800XT because the ray-tracing implementation is clearly inferior. In all other metrics the card is a beast, easily able to handle 4K resolutions at max detail in most older/less demanding games and max detail at 1440p with newer ones but I am a bit worried about how future proof it will be as undoubtedly more and more games will start to implement ray tracing. I should have been less impatient and waited for the Nvidia cards to come back in stock. Regardless, this PC is my console replacement for the foreseeable future and I am happy with it at this point.
I built my pc may and I was in a similar mindset but it’s my first pc so u went with the 7800x3d and 4090 just because I didn’t want too worry about upgrading it anytime soon I took it out of my savings for school since I didn’t have enough and would have too stay behind till I’m 24 anyway but looking back I do kinda wish I maybe went down a tier or so but I gotta say I do honestly love my pc it was a big morale boost knowing I built it despite all the little technical issues I’ve had
It feels so weird that I could relate to you during the conclusion part even though I just own a low-end gpu (3060). Why? Because I could play old games in high settings without worrying about fps and visuals. I could never properly play 2010 era games for some personal life reasons; so now after 2020 it feels so good.
Just built my 4070 Ti Super / 7800X3D system and no real regrets. I could probably have gone for a 4080 Super but one of the things putting me off was the melting power cable issue with the very top-end cards, especially as I'm not _that_ into gaming anyway! 😆 Only thing is I got a 24 inch monitor (quite a big upgrade from my previous 6-year old second-hand 19"); but now probably going to replace with a 27". One thing for sure, though: don't think I need a 9800X3D anytime soon!
I've bought my 4090 1,5 year ago when I was swithching from FullHD VA monitor to OLED LG 42' TV and I am happy with my choice so far. It fits MiniITX case (NR200), runs cool and silent, pulls under 300W @120FPS in games w/o RT(400-450 with RT), runs VR withought an issues. Yeah, the product is great and I use it a lot, but the price is stiff. If at that moment I could find a good 2k OLED monitor, I might go with 4080 just fine.
I had the chance to build a "Dream PC", but power usage, size, and all that stuff lead me down to the path of "Im just gonna buy a nuc extreme and put ARC A770 in it, loaded with 4TB and 64GB Ram, i still have this build today, it works, i converted to linux with this setup. On the whole, i just think about "If its big and uses too much energy for the performance it provides, its not peak technology" As good tech should be performing better than the last best, and using less energy, and be smaller in general as its the building blocks to better things in the future that maybe we might actually want.
Awesome and truthful review thanks man. I'm like you and I have a 4090 also same kinda build as yours and it is defiantly overkill.....but us gamers gotta do these things. there is a lot of worse things you could spend your money on. Yes its future proof alright haha!!
Ive just spent a grand building a budget pc with an R5 7600 and a 4060, upgrading from tech thats 7-12 years old. (AMD FX9590/RX 580) It was worth the upgrade for 1080p gaming. I upgrade once every ten years roughly. I don't need to play modern titles, i just need good games. Gaming since 1979 (Oh, quick edit, the power draw is nice too!)
Bought 7900 xtx for the work (needed 24Gb VRAM) and also gaming. It was a huge jump from RX580. I'm very satisfied with it, especially considering the price. I would be rather disappointed with 4090, because it's just too overpriced for not that much performance uplift from 7900 xtx/4080 super. Plus the latter is another $150 for less VRAM. The downside is that some games heavily biased towards nvidia cards. Like CP77, AW2 or Wukong. You think Starfield is unoptimized? Well, it's optimized, but for AMD cards instead.
7900xtx with 7800x3d here, built my entire system for the same price as a 4090😮, the Vram is a godsend native 4k maxed out settings on Diablo 4 it uses 21gb
@@sparda9060 Yeah, had my head scratching as to why given the nature of the game, I’ve also seen 20gb plus in Avatar when yo crank up the settings. Going forward it’s no wonder the 5090 has 32gb.
I recently dumped money on a rig like this but went harder on my ram and storage space. It cost a arm and a leg but it performs at such high levels i never worry about what i throw at it and thats all i ever wanted
Interesting video and perspective.I personally go for the 80 tier cards then skip a generation. I have a 3080 paired with a 5700X3D and 32gb of ram and surprisingly it still does well in most games even at 1440P. I do use DLSS quality but I don't mind some upscaling at the quality settings. I thought about going the 4090 route but my entire rig is around $1500 and that's over 3 years of upgrades. I'm planning to upgrade to a 5080 build when that drops. I think my max budget for a build would be $2K. That would give me the peace of mind of upgrading parts every few years. If I had a top end build over $3K, I'd probably want it to last 5+ years to get my money's worth, but I know I'd still be tempted to spend money to upgrade way before that anyway, so I try to get the best parts I can while keeping things reasonable affordable. 😂
Very relatable. I was running a 2060 super and a r5 3600 16gb ram was running prettly well. Upgraded to a 3090 used for 500 usd and a r7 5700x 200usd but my pc master race soul just begs me to upgrade to a 4090 and 7800x3d/i9. I daily combat my intrusive thoughts about getting it. (I can barely afford it). But as much as i try my mind just beeeegs me to get it and i just know im set off for about 4 years. Personally i live in south america and if i want anything over 200usd i will have to overpay 100 usd for shipping and international taxes while anything below or at 200usd comes tax free, so enthusiast lvl hardware brand new its not worth it for me. At the end of the day my old pc could be running evethything without any hassle.
Same as with the monitors i can get a asus 280 hz 1080p monitor for 200 usd or a QHD 180hz for the same price. Yet my stupid brain BEGS for me to get a 1000 usd oled monitor.
I made a 4080 super build and im just so happy with it man, sure it was expensive around the 3K price tag, but whatever I throw at it eveb with the highest settings on 2K it's super smooth. yeah sometimes I regret purchasing such a powerful system, but it's worth it in the long run.
There is a contradiction in your comment. You are both simultaneously regretful at times with this system but also very happy with it. Which one is it?
@@Stardomplay tbh i’m happy with it cause I can stream and not have any lag or fps issues. But the reason I regretted it also is because of my financial situation and spent too much out of my budget for this build. But you know that was just a financial hit for 2 months, i’m good now.
I have a similar setup and play flight sims at 4k so for me it is worth it. When the 5090 comes out I will upgrade to that and try VR for the first time.
I’m a enthusiast is really why people like us get the 4090 spent 2k on the white strix and no it’s not to flex it’s simply I wanted I have the money I bought it simple as that my pc build has perky rgb and I can’t stop staring at it that was my dream for my first ever build if I built a pc I wanted to go beyond high end and now it’s here and I’m happy
I built my PC last year, i7 13700kf, 4070 ti, 32gb ram. I'm very satisfied with my build, and I am definitely glad i didn't splurge for a 4090. No doubt I'd have been even more satisfied and have the peace of mind knowing i wouldn't have to upgrade for a much longer time. But I'm playing games at 1440p and still getting great fps. I do wish i had waited a bit longer to build my rig. Because the 4070 ti super and 4080 super came out not too long after, and honestly if the 4080 had only been $200 I'd have been willing to pay for marginally better performance and the 16gb of vram. Right now 12gb is enough, but no doubt in a couple years it won't be.
Got a 7800x3d and 4090 and I've never been so happy with a PC (since the first one i had, I guess). And i seems the 5090 will be the only real upgrade from it, and will cost even more...
I thought about doing this but I noticed that I only use web apps for the most part and when I game GeForce Now Ultimate with a 4080 handles the gaming. Chromebook+ GeForce Now has been solid.
Gaming on a PC like this is a bucket list experience in my opinion. Every gamer should try to do it at least once. It feels like nothing else in the world.
Thanks for the honest outlook on need vs want when it comes to modern PC gaming. I do think the 4090 is great if you're running a 4k monitor, but for 1440p, even ultrawide, it is overkill. I've been debating getting a 4080 Super over the past week since Trump will instate tariffs on all electronics made in China, but have a hard time justifying any area where my current 6800 XT is not enough - I even managed to play TLOU Part 1 in 4K with FSR and had a great time. So really, it all hinges on the RTX 5000 series and its availability and affordability, but that might not be enough for me to upgrade either...probably a good problem to have, lol.
My system is ooold but it does everything I need it to do. I recently bought a different cpu and more ram as a sort of mini upgrade, I went from a i7-3930K which I had overclocked to 4.10GHz base is 3.20GHz to a xeon E5-2687W v2 and iv definitely noticed a slight difference as the xeon has 2 more cores then the i7-3930K but it's base clock is lower and it should be turbo'ing to 4GHz but I only ever see it go to 3.8GHz, have thought abt putting my 3930K back in but being a sever chip it allows me to do more at one time so running multiple programs is definitely more easier on the xeon. The rest of my pc is on a X79 Sabertooth motherboard with 32GB DDR3 1600 and two EVGA 970 SC's w SLI. I game/upload in 1080p and it does it well tbf😂
coil whine is expected with a pny rendition of the 4090, i'm rocking the rog strix and the thing is a stealth bomber, no whine, no sound from the fans, nothing. Anyways i got a very similar setup except i have a different cpu (ryzen 9 7950x3d), same amount of ram, but i don't regret it at all i also bought a asus pg32ucdm monitor to go along with it and playing cyberpunk maxed out with path tracing turned on in 4k while maintaining over 100 fps is the reason why i don't regret it (and not only that game).
For me it was buying a 3090FE from eBay as it wasnt available in Canada no matter how long id waited (2+yrs at that point) but id figure id try again with a friend to nab a 4090FE since i wanted to use RTX Remix (4000 series only) but again the GPU has been outa stock online from launch till no longer produced. Thankfully buddy who did get one will sell me his 4090 since i know 5090 will never be in stock.
I have a 4090, 5800x3D, and Neo g9. This is the 1st Top Build(for a very short time lol) I ever owned. The one thing I will say is the People who have the 4090 have what will be one of the best VALUE Top End Cards ever made. I do not see it not being enough to get a nice experience even when the 5000 and 8000(AMD) series cards release.
As a simracer with triple 4K setup I wish I could afford 4090 or 5090. I just set my monitors to 1440p so I can get stable 100fps in ACC (not maxed out, DLSS Q) with 4070TI and it looks way better than 4K with DLSS Performance (and smoother!).
honestly i feel like there would be a bottleneck with anything less then a 7800x3d or 7950x3d on a res lower then 4k, i dunno though, maybe thats just me
3090 ti with 3600xt and or rtx 3080 with i7 12700. I play 1440x1080 comp settings 360hz on cs2, Fortnite, and ow2. Both are the same price with aio and 32gb ram.
I have never built a PC of this caliber. Always had handme downs and pre builts. I will never do this again but I have no regrets on playing on a high end system
The 4090 is beyond insane. I have the vive pro 2 paired with a 4090. I run the vive pro 2 at the extreme setting which is 5k 120hz and in most cases I maintain a constant 120fps at 5k.
In August of 2023, I bought an RX 7900 XTX. I wasn't really in the market for it because I also have an RX 6800 XT but Newegg had some insane open-box sepcial on an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC model here in Canada for (the equivalent of) $850USD. I couldn't say no to that. I'm in the same boat as you, I prioritise frame rate over visuals (especially RT) and so my XTX was the perfect card for me. I also bought it because I wanted the 24GB of VRAM to ride out the storm in case of another GPU shortage (caused by AI hardware production). I don't regret it but I also paid about HALF what you probably did for that overpriced monster.
I got a 4070 ti super currently it’s quite a solid gpu at 4k it seems quite good I have had it for 6 months now I still consider if I should have got the 4080 super for $200 more in terms of the future as I like 4k 60fps+ max fidelity either way it’s still a decent build with the 13700kf.
I bought a 4090 high end pc and will buy a new 5090 high end pc soon, again. As an enthusiast it’s just a hobby. I sell my “old” systems to my gaming buddies way below market price.
I work on game dev far more than gaming. I got an M3 Max, and it runs games around 100 fps at 1440p. Mate that with great battery life, and my game dev work flow is far more stable because of MacOS. The hardware speed of PC's is undeniable man. They are bastions of speed and power. Reliability can kill it though. The Mac games good enough for the amount of gaming I actually do.
nice video but i got something to say about this though, hope you read this! with a 4090 which is far above anything, similar like the launch of 1080ti.. i think 10 years from now you will look at the card with alot of thankfullness, since you dont really max it out and you dont seem the type to upgrade every gen to the best gpu, this will be repayed to you in value 10 years from now. A couple of 1080ti users that i know were also thinking like this and till this day they dont seems to want to upgrade since they dont feel the need for it. People will have to upgrade every 3 to 4 of years if they have a mid range pc, i have a 3070 im not gonna play 1080p on a 27inch monitor xD Remember 980 ti was marketed as the 4k gpu, in the old games yes but now no chance, this gpu will like every other flagship age. this gpu will be the 1440p legend probably in the future, 1080ti was the 1080p legend ;).
5:49 I was going to say this in the comments but you said it. For certain niches, like flight sims in VR, it's still hard to have too much power. If that's what you're doing, normal hardware reviews with their price/performance comparisons are less useful.
I went all out this year on my pc build, 4090 with all the best parts to go with it, im really wanting to not have to worry about upgrading anything for at least 5yrs, or even 10 😭
brother, water-cool those babies. both the CPU and GPU. Create a custom loop, and hang up the build on the wall. You own a piece of gaming history where the turmoil with gpu's and CPU's was arguably just as hot as it was during covid (for different reasons obviously). Keep that chunk of gaming history cool and running forever!
I play VR racing sims and a lot of VR in general and wish I had a 4090. I’m running a 4070ti super, i7 13700f and 32 gb of DDR5 @5600mt with a 850watt PSU. VR can be taxing especially on Sims. I will say my system is completely air cooled and my CPU and GPU pretty much runs around 50-55c under load.
I think you should‘ve gone with the 7800x3d if it was available at the time, since the x3d Chips are the best you can buy for VR Simulation Games. Maybe something to keep in mind in the Future.
Good thing you went with the 4070ti. A friend of mine is into VR & got the 4070 w/o much research. It was chugging like crazy, so he got a 4090. Then, he saw it needed more VRAM than the 4070 had. In the end tho, he returned the 4090 and just turned down the settings. He liked the 4090, but it just wasn't worth $1,600 to him.
@@ichigokurosaki1306 I’ve seen people say AMD doesn’t perform as well in VR. I’ll look into it though, probably going to get another card with the 50 series release and then do some more comparisons. Thanks
Instead of a high end GPU it is better to just get a XX70TI model and upgrade that as the next gen comes. AI advances rapidly every VGA GEN has new features (frame generation, DLSS new versions etc) so on the long run u get much better value. In my case: i bought a 4070ti when its released and will upgrade when the 5070ti arrives in a few months. 5070ti will be like a 5-8% stronger than the 4090, so with less money spent overall i will have a 4090S like card with newer techology, software support etc.
I only recently upgraded from my 1080ti. I actually didn't need to. After 8 years, that graphics card can still play any games with 60 or more fps.I just wanted to be g2g for another 8 years lol
It's no such thing as overkill when not all games are optimized well and people who got monsters like a 3080-4090 were prepared for the future, and had they got a weaker card, they wouldn't be able to run those same games at high settings. It's people who said a year ago 16GB of RAM was enough, yet over the last 4 years, games need that or more.
I wanted a 4090 with a 14900K initially. After months of stalling, I opted to a 4080 with a 7800X3d. Absolutely no regrets basing it on the games I currently play. Will I ever get a 5090 or a 6090? It all depends on what games release in the near future.
If it wasn't so insanely overpriced and wouldn't have this horrible power connector I'd consider it being a good GPU. For pure professional grafic design purposes it probably still is. But I get what u mean and I'm glad u enjoy your experience. I went overkill on my pc too for the first time and I don't regret it if it's basically for once only.
I will get a Macbook for gaming
I like that style
You better off bitting the bullet and saving to upgrade to a potato.
@@dexterjsullen bro, if u use the money from the MacBook for a pc, you can get a pretty decent pc
thats one of the most retarted things ive seen today.gaming on a mac has got to suck sooo much. uless your retro gaming.
If the games you play are supported on the Mac, it can be a great experience. I have a PC w/ a 3080 and an M3 Macbook Pro. My PC sits idle most of the time and I use the M3 for gaming and development work in UE5.
I think that buying top of the line PC at least once in a lifetime is a nice experience ;) Also "crazy" people that bought 1080Ti when it came out and was so expensive, actually won and could play comfortably for nearly a decade, avoiding mining craze and pandemic GPU prices. And because 1080Ti has 11GB of VRAM it can STILL handle 1440p nowadays.
@@johanndaart7326 easily in my opinion the 1080ti was the goat of GPUS in the past decade.
People called me crazy when I got 4 megabytes of RAM for my 386 when most people had only 1 megabyte.
@@calidude1114what year was that?
@@volkskrieg8735 Back when the RTX 2080 came out, my GTX 670 system started dying. I had to choose between the 11 GB 1080ti or the 8 GB 2080 at the time, and I nervously chose the 2080. 6 years later I'm very glad I made that decision even though my 2080 struggles with less vram. The reason I'm still playing with my 2080 is simple: DLSS. I would have had to replace my 1080ti a few years ago because of its inability to utilize that amazing technology.
Bought a new PC with a asus 1080ti rog strix oc, when it came out. My next PC comes next week. 7800x3d and a 7900xtx.
Nice humble review, did he enjoy his 4090? Yes he did.
Did he feel he could have saved 40% of the money, and went for a lower end GPU? Yes he did.
Would he buy a 5090 or 6090 for god knows how much Nvidia will charge? NO he probably will not.
well below the average person has no idea that hi fidelity gaming motion/ graphics was proven to stimulate the same part of the brain as what opiate drugs do, so as compared to drug addictions, buying the top-of-the-line gaming rig ever 2-3 years is way freaking cheaper than spending that cash on narcotics. Heck the amount of money i saved when i stopped smoking, I was able to buy a PC that placed in the top 5% fastest pc's built in 2024. and can not wait to place my order for a 5090.
@@videocruzer You can have fun in life just fine without those drugs/stimulations, however.
@@allgoesround 100% but its also fun to buy some cool stull every once in awhile ya know
@@chinnerchilla Absolutely. I just don't think anyone should use a comparison to drugs and their effects as a justification. That is quite harmful. Similar reactions in the brain also have degrees, interpretations, and applicabilities.
Just buy what you want after proper considerations and have fun.
when the time gomes, he may very well be tempted once again to get the 5090 haha
nice hearing an honest opinion and being humble instead of flexing
@@burrfoottopknot thank you for the kind words!
@@FrozenVayneGames I am a PC Builder and advisor. And almost all the RTX4090 setups I built or advised I paired it with 1440p monitor and not a 4K monitor. Many others in the community questioned it like why not a 4K monitor to go with that Powerful setup. It is the matter of longevity as you said. I expect those guys to use the PC for good 5-6Yrs. And sadly RTX4090 is not capable of pushing 4K to 60fps over that long period of time. 1440p on the other-hand it can manage comfortably even after years with new titles that drop over time.
@@KING_DRANZER you're in the same boat as me, the amount of people I get talking about 4k gaming, especially those coming from console with no real idea of what the systems can/can't do tend to bring the expectations back to earth, show them a card within budget, usually 4070 or lower chugging in a RT work load in real life at 4k/upscaled and most decide that RT is too expensive and leave very happy with a good value card, usually a 6750xt for 1080p and 7800xt for a 1440p rig, lately most people have been sold on AFMF2 since reviewing likes to push doss but not the stuff the AMD cards can do, industry is completely backwards currently, 2 years ago 4090 was proclaimed to be "over kill" now it's kina become a joke, what you get for the money isn't even worth it anymore. £400+ for a 4060Ti is the biggest problem though, especially when similar priced cards don't need dlss to perform.
@@elysian3623 Exactly people and specially influencers should get things and expectations down to where they should be.
@@KING_DRANZERcompletely agree i plan on upgrading to a 4090/5080 for my 1440p gaming setup and don’t plan on touching it till 80 series of cards
I like this style of review . There are very few reviewers focussing on the subjective experience of owning such hardware rather than just raw FPS. I like the visuals and eye candy and have a 4k144 32 inch powered by a 4080 Super. The 4090 would suit me better but £1800 is too much to pay just so you don't need to compromise settings in new titles. (The 4080 Super can do 4k100+ native in many cross gen titles which is what I mostly play , and 4k60+ with DLSS/some compromises).
I bought the 4080 Super to replace a dead 2080ti on an aging 8700k system which I'll replace in the next 18 months. There I do like the idea of buying top end components for peace of mind (thinking 9950x3d/x870e board/64gb ddr5)- I didn't think I'd get 6 and a half years out of those parts. So in my mind it's justified for a platform, maybe not with a GPU so much.
@@tourmaline07 that’s a fair assessment.
if ur doing strictly gaming, get the 7800x3d. it's the one i have and its legit the best purchase ive made out of my entire pc build as it's the best gaming cpu on the market currently
If the games is your priority, the I would say that you will be fine with 7800x3d. We need to see new AMD x3d chips tho
I really relate to this video. I built my first pc in 2012 for $450 and it understandably struggled to run modern games past 2014. I had intended on upgrading it for basically a decade, but I was broke and busy due to college, med school, and then residency. Coming out of residency one of my first big purchases was building a brand new pc with a 4080 super and ryzen 7800x3d. This thing flawlessly runs any game I throw at it at max settings and is basically silent. It feels like my waiting to upgrade paid off and I'm happy knowing that I likely can get another 10 years out of this pc lol.
I relate to this, haha.
You will not get 10 years was thinking the same about 1080 … lol
It’s hard to describe how good 1440p at 240fps maxed out feels on a OLED panel
THIS!! The absolute sweet spot. 27 or ultrawide? For me, I just cannot live without two monitors.
I only have 165 htz but you’re right 1440p looks so nice. Def the way to play modern games
Real
Feels even better at 4K 240hz
@@Zillawillthis guy gets it
I recently got a 4090 has well, I find myself using it 1-4 times a week, depending on my work schedule, it’s a nice piece of mind that you have to not upgrade for another 3-5 years, although I don’t regret buying it
I used a ryzen 3600x and 1660 super for 5 years and it still works, Now I have 4080super/rzyen 7 7800x3d, I'll be good until 2030 when I make my third computer. You got way more then 3-5 years out of a 4090
it all comes down to how much you value your time and quality of experience , for example , people who really really really enjoy listening to music buy very very expensive speakers , you can hear music from a 12$ earphone from the Chinese market but you can also spend 2 grand for monitor audio speakers and hear the same songs , the difference is the quality of sound ,depth of quality , volume , and overall value of your experience
I do think PC gamers get too hung up on stats, they forget games are about having fun, not how many pixels you can get on a screen and >120 fps.
Then go and play Solitaire if it's just about fun and not also about graphics... man...
Playing at the top graphics is pretty nice
i agree, but having the game run well makes the game way more enjoyable. when i dont have to worry about the game looking bad or stutterring, the game is much more enjoyable.
1440p 165hz is a different experience it's like saying a luxury car is the same as a regular one since they both are meant to drive
sure they do the same thing but one just does it better
They are not mutually exclusive
Nice video. I have a 4090 with a 14900k and am glad I did not buy the 4080 which I would have regretted. I play at 2k and its just fun to not care about fps at all. This is my fourth PC build and in my previous 3 I always skimped on the cpu or some other parts to save money so its nice to go all out if you can afford it. I always compare the 4090 to a high end Iphone pro max which is about the same price and Apple has no problem selling tens of millions of them.
4090 + 1440p enjoyer here, this is the way. having the 4090 makes gaming at 2K effortless, and it's such a relief to not even think about FPS drops.
difference is the iphone is a mini computer that fit in your pocket and the 4090 is a gpu that need 2k dollars worth or other parts to function right
@@yamsbeansTwo things here.
He compared the expensive 4090 to an expensive phone because both are technically not worth the money but still be sold.
Second: 4090 is a GPU.
iPhone is nothing but a CPU paired with a GPU utilizing RAM, who itself accesses data through your storage who's fixed on a motherboard where the frame will be displayed on a screen fixed to a case.
Funny thing is I have a 4080 super and rzyen 7 7800x3d and play every single game in 4k maxxed out settings. Glad I didn't waste another thousand on the 4090 honestly. Would of been the same experience except extra 15 fps.
Same build and I am loving it. Idk what people are talking about with “only a 4090 can play the latest games.” You can easily play just about everything on the 4080 Super at 4K. Even if you need upscaling, at 4K DLSS performance upscaling is better than 1440p DLSS Quality lol. Though I’ve never needed to use more than quality on any games I actually play, and I almost always prefer quality to native (it looks better imo)
The funny thing is, while I love having a powerful card such as a 4090, I often lock my FPS to 90 - 100FPS as I feel like it feels nice and fluid for the games I play plus it dramatically reduces the power draw of my 4090. So... effectively I could have saved a lot and bought a 4080 as I essentially handicap my card by limiting the FPS but then again there are some cases where only a 4090 will even hit 90 - 100 FPS so it still works out worth it for me.
Why dont you undervolt it? I have undervolted mine to 2760mhz @0975mv and limit my fps at 138 to stay in the gsync limit of my monitor, and the card rarely goes above 400w and temps stay below 64c. I have had it for almost 2 years now, and zero issues.
bruh
@@joshh8888 I concur. It's like complaining about your sports car's gas mileage lmfao. Which would be significantly more expensive than the electricity to use the 4090(and the AC to offset the heat) unless electricity is expensive in his area. I know my power bills break down (with my 7900xt and 850w PSU) is like 90% AC 8% appliances and 2% PC(it says entertainment but thats the only thing that fall in that category). Idk I wish he would have said something about syncing to his refresh rate instead, at least that would have made sense.
The power draw is also low af and silent. It's amazing.
kinda easy to handicap if you have a room for that, but, with 4080 you might face 100% load and not reaching those desired fps range.
I had my 1060 pc build for my first pc for about 4 years and when I save enough money I upgrade to a 3070ti build 2 years ago and that upgrade was insane from the performance I was used to getting. Even to this day I don’t plan on upgrading anytime soon. Just like you said,I could mostly throw any game at it and not have to worry if I could play it or not.
I think any honest PC lover would definitely buy top-tier specs if they could afford it. You really hit the nail on the head when you said one of the things you really loved about your build, was the peace of mind, in knowing that it could handle just about anything you could throw at it - who doesn’t want that! Great video, and thank you for sharing.
I needed to see this. Thanks. I was considering spending so much money on a system upgrade but now I won't. YT is such a blessing sometimes!
My experience with a 4090 setup:
I've always been a console gamer, never owned a PC before in my life, mainly sticking to PlayStation because of the convenience of just sitting down and playing instantly and I thought getting a PC would be a pain. I allready have a PS5 and a 55inch LG C2 OLED so it was a solid pair as is.
I don't know what happend but I just woke up in January and decided I wanted a PC, the idea of running games at 120FPS+, native 4K with RT was very appealing, especially considering i always loved the idea of playing games at max settings and see their full potential
I had two options, eaither get a mid range build and see how i liked it or go for the best of the best and hope I liked it, the main thing i wanted was something that would top my PS5
I decided to go for the latter, for a 4090, 7800X3D, 32GB of DDR5 RAM and the AW3225QF 240HZ, 4K OLED monitor to top it off. All in all (got a really good deal on a 4090) came to £3000 (monitor made up £1000 of that. Had the build since April.
Do I regret it? Hell no, it's another level compared to console and running everything at max settings is a blast, I do think it was overkill, especially because my main goal was to top my PS5 but it really is a great experience when I game.
If you have the funds it's definitely worth having it atleast once, especially considering a GPU of that spec will last you a long time.
However a 4070 would likely do a similar thing, but having no limits and never having to make compromises in power is really nice
Great review! I own a 4090 and a 9800x3d, which as you mentioned it's definitely worth for someone who prioritize visual to high fps like myself. But for somebody who more or less want to game on 2k high fps, it's not a need.
I bought a brand new RTX 4080 on sale and it was cheaper than most RTX 4070 TI SUPER gpus was definitely a no brainer. We all live once, I wanted a ultimate build I finally accomplished that. At least you can say you had one and enjoyed it. 💯
@@bblessedbeats 4080 for that price is a great deal. Enjoy it man
I just bought a 4080 super and I honestly hope and I feel like this thing should last me over 5 years. I'm about to dump over $3k in my build and yes, that's one hell of a pill to swallow but hey, like you said, piece of mind. I'll have a system that'll last me far longer without having to upgrade every other year or so. I hope it'll be tons of fun for years to come. Especially since I'm jumping from a 1050ti laptop.
I have the 4080 super with the i7 13700kf it will definetly last us 4-5 years
@@QuintsXI Yeah I’m getting more confident in it lasting maybe a bit more after that since I’ll most stick around 1440p gaming. Just got a 7600x3d for micro center. Will most likely upgrade to a higher core count in the future once amd releases their x3d’s for their 9000 chips.
@@darkmatter7208 yeh I game in 1440p as of now will eventually get a 4k monitor I have a 240hz 1080p monitor and a 1440p 165hz monitor
Definitely an underrated video man, very helpful for some
@@pbjames appreciate the support! Just dont want people to make a mistake with their money
60fps being your minimum bar when you own a fucking rtx 4090 should pretty clearly indicate that the people saying optimization is a problem might have a point. My 2080 + i7 8700 clevo p870 (Desktop Replacement "Laptop") is mostly in the same boat as your hypothetical, at least GPU wise, and I'm getting a 9900k soon, so it'll be close enough on CPU as well, at 1100 all in. I play in 1440p 120hz due to that being my laptops panel spec.
With this kind of PC, you also need a higher end monitor/tv and audio setup to match the experience.
Or it will be kinda unbalanced.
yeah or get a 7000x3d chip as a bare minimum if you want to go below anything below 4k for this card, like since he does content creation, i would probably reccomend a 7950x3d or something crazy like that
People love to discuss bottlenecks and whatever between GPU and CPU and RAM and always forget that there's no point in having a mid or high end PC if your monitor fucking sucks.
Imagine having a Rtx 4090 and a 720p monitor
Playing games at 300fps is nice actually 😂😂😂
I got a 4090 rog strix OC with a 14700KF, all in a custom waterloop, 8 tb of ssd (990 pro), 64 gb of fast DDR5, oled LG C3 TV and full hifiman hifi audio system. Yes the experience is really something amazing. And given my needs, it does very well with professional applications/tasks and gaming. The electricity it needs is relative though. Full day gaming will indeed cost a bit, but overall it's not that much. It can even serve as heating for my whole apartment. 😎
I feel you on a impulse purchase. I am a day one owner of my 4090 MSI gaming Trio version, I did indeed purchase at the msrp launch price so I feel very happy about that! I am rocking a i7 13700k and people say I should’ve bought a i9 I do indeed have the same display as you I’m not a 4k gamer but I do appreciate eye candy and I rarely play newer games these days. Still play cod bo3, fallout 4, fallout 76, Warzone, and Cyberpunk 2077. Is mainly my go to games and has been for the last 2 years now which is crazy but that’s what brings joy to me as these games are always full the brim on doing something different, besides the long two years now it has been a blessing and in the same boat won’t really need change my pc for the next 5-6 years. See how I feel in 2026-2027
People who tell you that you should have purchased the i9 variant have ZERO clue about PC components.
Power draw is a real problem with that card or cards that high wattage. One way to combat power draw on those not so demanding games is undervolting your gpu. I have an undervolt profile for my 4090 that I use when playing "light" titles. For example, in RE2 I was able to get my card to run the game at 4k 120 at 270 watts!
it doesn't always draw a ton of watts, depends what u do with it.
0.875V 2550mhz? ;)
@@Crashdeal Close 0.9V 2650 mhz
@@hopoff9968what about the power limit? 80% ?
@@douglas5097 Yes
Im buying a new pc, and obviously i am very excited to be able to play any game high settings at 60fps+. But also i love the idea of having a pc i dont have to spend hours squeezing fps out of it, or waiting 5 minutes for it to boot, or fixing other issues. When i get it i can imagine how refreshing it will be to click something and it just pops up instantly.
Bought a 4090 build just like this a while ago and I'm having pretty much the same experience. I really hope it'll last me, I don't think I'll upgrade for a long long long time. Loved the vid man.
For Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 (and the upcoming 2024) it absolutely is worth it if you run 4K HDR and high end VR. OC'd direct die 14900KS, 96GB RAM and 4090 with a MoRa 420 for cooling. Looking forward to the 5090/Titan.
Absolutely
Its What you Love , so Yeah Go For It. I just got a 4090 base rig and know it's gonna last me for at least 5 years. software is better optimized now. Enjoy it! 👍
Peace of mind, agreed! I was wondering the same with my build and this is the right explanation.
I almost spit my drink out when we said he doesn’t game at 4K lmao. Nice subjective review but also super overkill build lol
It’s 2024 so you cannot call yourself a serious gamer if u don’t play in 4K. I started playing in 4K in 2015 on a 32 inch Dell 4K monitor.
You do realize gaming is not the only thing you can do GPUs? He probably edits or does 3D renders on that card cuz otherwise, it is overkill.
@@calidude1114 in your case ......... sure ......
Don't agree with that at all @@calidude1114
My philosophy is: If you spend "too little" and get something you are not satisfied with; you have wasted your money. If you pay "too much" for something but you enjoy the thing you bought; you have gotten something for your money.
I feel like, you do this sort of thing as a once in a lifetime experience for the satisfaction. I built a top of the line system in 2022, but life happened and I ended up homeless and stored it with someone. well, 2 years later I got it back at my new place and it still runs like I just built it in 2022. Hopefully it'll last a long time more, in order to make up the lost years. Good video all around.
Great honest review. I have always felt that if a person is a PC gamer they should at least one time in their life build a top tier performing gaming PC. Let's be honest, most PC gamers usually play on mid tier specd PCs and when upgrading GPUs are usually looking at the same tier of the newer generation. It may or may not be completely worth it for the avg gamer. But it's quite an experience owning a top performing gaming PC that allows you to play any and every game at the highest settings and not having to worry about it. Like I said, everyone should do it at least once in their life because life is way too short. Enjoy this hobby that we all spend many hrs doing.
I have a 7900xtx and 7800x3d, one of the reasons that I built it is that I dont intend to upgrade again for another 10 years if possible.
I built a 290x and fx8350 in 2014 and it managed to run spiderman on medium settings in 2022/3. I skipped the whole am4 gen but was able to still enjoy most of the games.
The minimum requirement doesn't mean that the game wont run. It only indicates that it won't be at a standard that developer wants you to experience the game. Now that we have fsr and fluid frames GPU longevity has increased.
How long have you had the 7900xtx and 7800x3d? I just made the switch from the intel/nvidia combo and upgraded to those parts as well and was wondering how well games run and how light multi tasking performs.
@@pmao I have had it running since Aug 2023. The games run very well at 4k obviously if you intend to run it at 1080p it handles that with ease.
The only issues that I have had with games is running them with radeon adrenaline sometimes games don't like settings being duplicated you have to pick either the game manages it or adrenaline does. However, if the game doesn't like adrenaline it will just crash. So configuration can take a while to get right.
As for light multitasking I have never had an issue with it. I run rainmeter, start 11, fences, playnite, hwinfo, display fusion on a triple monitor set up and still use multiple browsers and programs without any issues. I do have 64gb of ram though.
The only thing I ran into is that they run hotter than my 290x and FX8350 combo. I was quite surprised but that is due to the CCD being stacked on top of the cores. I idle around 45c on the die and around 20-25c on the cores. Normal usage is around 50c with all the background apps and around 30-45 on the cores.
lol, that crap build will be outdated and worth 400 dollars on ebay in 2 years. cards are going to have 64GB of vram in the next 2-3 years
@@ImakeTanks LOL maybe maybe not but consoles won't have that. 🤣. Most gaming companies will make games that will run perfectly fine on the 7900XTX + 7800x3d. I'll be fine. 😂
@@Viperveteran lol
I bought a 7900 xtx on launch and it's perfect for my use, 4k gaming on a TV, played all major releases on it from the last 4 years. Hopefully I can skip a generation at least. But a 4090 would be great, sometimes I miss RT cababilities but honestly it's such a small visual difference for so much cost that I'm not sure yet, except for Portal RTX which I plugged my old 3070 to play because is awesome indeed.
Im buying a 4090 soon and THIS review is my exact thoughts! I dont care how the next gen would do compared to the 4090, all I love is the fact that this thing will be a beast at handling games from now till 5-8 years in time with no struggle! Especially because of the 24 gb? I now have little worry about. Perfect and sensible review. Love this.
The biggest regret and remorse comes when your parts are superceeded and everything you spent so much money on looses value by the day. Chasing the best new PC parts is a fools game (unless you can afford to throw that much money at it)
To be honest this is just how most technology and consumer devices work nowadays, not just PC parts.
exactley this you always pay a premium for high end stuff best value and performance is mid tier stuff
High-end parts tend to lose value faster than mid-range options, so I’d prefer to go with a mid-range option now and upgrade in two years for better technology and cost savings, rather than sticking with a single card for 3 to 4 years. Plus, I can use my older cards to upgrade my secondary rig.
@@FrozenVayneGames yeeeah but there's a difference between splurging for the sake of splurging and being sensible. Also when everything you bought gets superseded you will feel that remorse even more. But it is an individual thing.. I mean you can afford to do it and not incur any sort of penalty then more power to you!
Hope you are keeping well frozenvayne keep the good work also I bought my rog ally x loving ❤️
I like to play on 32:9 and love VR so the 4090 was a must for me. Getting a 5090 as soon as I can so I have that peace of mind and to move the 4090 to my second pc that's lacking a GPU atm. But yeah, you don't NEED high end hardware to enjoy PC gaming, but it's a nice feeling nonetheless.
Top today old school tomorrow,, very nice rig
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Thank you for your experience. As a lifelong gamer i think getting the best of the best gaming machine, at one time, is something everyone thought of getting at least once.
Enjoy not needing to upgrade until 2030 when the RTX 9090 cost $50,000
I had this experience in 90s, when my father received a PC from work (he was a main CEO) and it was a god damned PENTIUM 90 when the high end was basically 486 DX and many ppl were on 386 CPUs. That pentium 90 was so far ahead of everything it was insane. :D I think I was 14 years old. EDIT: It had a PC speaker, and I soldered in a active speakers to it, and than in few months I burned the whole computer, luckily it was in a warranty and they covered it...
Can imagine that for somebody with your preferences the rig is overkill. I was considering getting this for the graphically demanding titles, perhaps cp77 with PT or gta 6 whenever it's gonna launch on pc. Might hold off for 5090 now since 4090 is hard to come by. But highly appreciate the honest words about 4090 ownership!
Awesome and honest review. I'm in the opposite camp. Running a 3080 with 5800x3d and I'm thinking about going 4k rtx 5090 9800 x3d.
got almost exact same setup now (5700x3d/3080) and feel like overkill is not overkill. It will take YEARS before mid range closes the perf gap with 4090, so buying high end brings peace of mind for years. I won't need to update for 6 years basically.
My current build is from 2022 a 12700k/RTX 3090/DDR4 system. It was an upgrade my 2012 build of a 3770k/GTX 770 (went 1070 in 2016) and I was playing most things in 1440p with decent settings. These systems are sustainable for quite a few years especially at 1440p.
I appreciate your honest thoughts on owning such a beastly rig! Wish I would have waited for a Nvidia card!
I went with an all AMD box when I did a total system overhaul in 2022 and I regret going with a Radeon RX 6800XT because the ray-tracing implementation is clearly inferior. In all other metrics the card is a beast, easily able to handle 4K resolutions at max detail in most older/less demanding games and max detail at 1440p with newer ones but I am a bit worried about how future proof it will be as undoubtedly more and more games will start to implement ray tracing. I should have been less impatient and waited for the Nvidia cards to come back in stock. Regardless, this PC is my console replacement for the foreseeable future and I am happy with it at this point.
I built my pc may and I was in a similar mindset but it’s my first pc so u went with the 7800x3d and 4090 just because I didn’t want too worry about upgrading it anytime soon
I took it out of my savings for school since I didn’t have enough and would have too stay behind till I’m 24 anyway but looking back I do kinda wish I maybe went down a tier or so but I gotta say I do honestly love my pc it was a big morale boost knowing I built it despite all the little technical issues I’ve had
It feels so weird that I could relate to you during the conclusion part even though I just own a low-end gpu (3060). Why? Because I could play old games in high settings without worrying about fps and visuals. I could never properly play 2010 era games for some personal life reasons; so now after 2020 it feels so good.
Just built my 4070 Ti Super / 7800X3D system and no real regrets. I could probably have gone for a 4080 Super but one of the things putting me off was the melting power cable issue with the very top-end cards, especially as I'm not _that_ into gaming anyway! 😆 Only thing is I got a 24 inch monitor (quite a big upgrade from my previous 6-year old second-hand 19"); but now probably going to replace with a 27". One thing for sure, though: don't think I need a 9800X3D anytime soon!
I've bought my 4090 1,5 year ago when I was swithching from FullHD VA monitor to OLED LG 42' TV and I am happy with my choice so far. It fits MiniITX case (NR200), runs cool and silent, pulls under 300W @120FPS in games w/o RT(400-450 with RT), runs VR withought an issues. Yeah, the product is great and I use it a lot, but the price is stiff. If at that moment I could find a good 2k OLED monitor, I might go with 4080 just fine.
I had the chance to build a "Dream PC", but power usage, size, and all that stuff lead me down to the path of "Im just gonna buy a nuc extreme and put ARC A770 in it, loaded with 4TB and 64GB Ram, i still have this build today, it works, i converted to linux with this setup.
On the whole, i just think about "If its big and uses too much energy for the performance it provides, its not peak technology" As good tech should be performing better than the last best, and using less energy, and be smaller in general as its the building blocks to better things in the future that maybe we might actually want.
Awesome and truthful review thanks man. I'm like you and I have a 4090 also same kinda build as yours and it is defiantly overkill.....but us gamers gotta do these things. there is a lot of worse things you could spend your money on. Yes its future proof alright haha!!
Ive just spent a grand building a budget pc with an R5 7600 and a 4060, upgrading from tech thats 7-12 years old. (AMD FX9590/RX 580)
It was worth the upgrade for 1080p gaming. I upgrade once every ten years roughly. I don't need to play modern titles, i just need good games.
Gaming since 1979
(Oh, quick edit, the power draw is nice too!)
Bought 7900 xtx for the work (needed 24Gb VRAM) and also gaming. It was a huge jump from RX580. I'm very satisfied with it, especially considering the price. I would be rather disappointed with 4090, because it's just too overpriced for not that much performance uplift from 7900 xtx/4080 super. Plus the latter is another $150 for less VRAM.
The downside is that some games heavily biased towards nvidia cards. Like CP77, AW2 or Wukong. You think Starfield is unoptimized? Well, it's optimized, but for AMD cards instead.
damn lol RX 580.... that is like walking and then getting into a corvette (7900XTX) lol
Eh, I think if u simply don't care about raytracing then AMD video cards are still the best value there is
7900xtx with 7800x3d here, built my entire system for the same price as a 4090😮, the Vram is a godsend native 4k maxed out settings on Diablo 4 it uses 21gb
@@DarthBungle Diablo 4 is made very weird. it loads everyones inventory when you get near them which is why its eating up 21gb vram.
@@sparda9060 Yeah, had my head scratching as to why given the nature of the game, I’ve also seen 20gb plus in Avatar when yo crank up the settings. Going forward it’s no wonder the 5090 has 32gb.
I recently dumped money on a rig like this but went harder on my ram and storage space. It cost a arm and a leg but it performs at such high levels i never worry about what i throw at it and thats all i ever wanted
Im still using my 2080TI at 1440p no issues. Built it in 2019. Also have LG UG oled and runs great.
Interesting video and perspective.I personally go for the 80 tier cards then skip a generation. I have a 3080 paired with a 5700X3D and 32gb of ram and surprisingly it still does well in most games even at 1440P. I do use DLSS quality but I don't mind some upscaling at the quality settings. I thought about going the 4090 route but my entire rig is around $1500 and that's over 3 years of upgrades. I'm planning to upgrade to a 5080 build when that drops. I think my max budget for a build would be $2K. That would give me the peace of mind of upgrading parts every few years. If I had a top end build over $3K, I'd probably want it to last 5+ years to get my money's worth, but I know I'd still be tempted to spend money to upgrade way before that anyway, so I try to get the best parts I can while keeping things reasonable affordable. 😂
Very relatable. I was running a 2060 super and a r5 3600 16gb ram was running prettly well. Upgraded to a 3090 used for 500 usd and a r7 5700x 200usd but my pc master race soul just begs me to upgrade to a 4090 and 7800x3d/i9. I daily combat my intrusive thoughts about getting it. (I can barely afford it). But as much as i try my mind just beeeegs me to get it and i just know im set off for about 4 years. Personally i live in south america and if i want anything over 200usd i will have to overpay 100 usd for shipping and international taxes while anything below or at 200usd comes tax free, so enthusiast lvl hardware brand new its not worth it for me. At the end of the day my old pc could be running evethything without any hassle.
Same as with the monitors i can get a asus 280 hz 1080p monitor for 200 usd or a QHD 180hz for the same price. Yet my stupid brain BEGS for me to get a 1000 usd oled monitor.
I would say stay with 3090, its such good gpu anyway. And there will always be better things coming like rtx 5000.
@@megapet777 true thank
I made a 4080 super build and im just so happy with it man, sure it was expensive around the 3K price tag, but whatever I throw at it eveb with the highest settings on 2K it's super smooth. yeah sometimes I regret purchasing such a powerful system, but it's worth it in the long run.
There is a contradiction in your comment. You are both simultaneously regretful at times with this system but also very happy with it. Which one is it?
@@Stardomplay tbh i’m happy with it cause I can stream and not have any lag or fps issues. But the reason I regretted it also is because of my financial situation and spent too much out of my budget for this build. But you know that was just a financial hit for 2 months, i’m good now.
@@Stardomplay Thats what being in love with crazy women feels like you lose your mental health but atleast they really love you 🗿
I have a similar setup and play flight sims at 4k so for me it is worth it. When the 5090 comes out I will upgrade to that and try VR for the first time.
I’m a enthusiast is really why people like us get the 4090 spent 2k on the white strix and no it’s not to flex it’s simply I wanted I have the money I bought it simple as that my pc build has perky rgb and I can’t stop staring at it that was my dream for my first ever build if I built a pc I wanted to go beyond high end and now it’s here and I’m happy
Makes sense. No one should ever tell you how to spend your money. As longas it makes you happy in life that's what matters. Life's too short anyways
I love flight sims and wish I didn’t because it actually makes sense to build a PC like this 🙃
im hoping to do this with an rtx 9090 with a ryzen 12 9900X3D when im old enough to just drop a couple thousand on a computer
I liked this video. I hope you will make more videos.
I built my PC last year, i7 13700kf, 4070 ti, 32gb ram. I'm very satisfied with my build, and I am definitely glad i didn't splurge for a 4090. No doubt I'd have been even more satisfied and have the peace of mind knowing i wouldn't have to upgrade for a much longer time. But I'm playing games at 1440p and still getting great fps. I do wish i had waited a bit longer to build my rig. Because the 4070 ti super and 4080 super came out not too long after, and honestly if the 4080 had only been $200 I'd have been willing to pay for marginally better performance and the 16gb of vram. Right now 12gb is enough, but no doubt in a couple years it won't be.
Got a 7800x3d and 4090 and I've never been so happy with a PC (since the first one i had, I guess). And i seems the 5090 will be the only real upgrade from it, and will cost even more...
I thought about doing this but I noticed that I only use web apps for the most part and when I game GeForce Now Ultimate with a 4080 handles the gaming. Chromebook+ GeForce Now has been solid.
Great review, thanks for the video
Gaming on a PC like this is a bucket list experience in my opinion. Every gamer should try to do it at least once. It feels like nothing else in the world.
Thanks for the honest outlook on need vs want when it comes to modern PC gaming. I do think the 4090 is great if you're running a 4k monitor, but for 1440p, even ultrawide, it is overkill.
I've been debating getting a 4080 Super over the past week since Trump will instate tariffs on all electronics made in China, but have a hard time justifying any area where my current 6800 XT is not enough - I even managed to play TLOU Part 1 in 4K with FSR and had a great time. So really, it all hinges on the RTX 5000 series and its availability and affordability, but that might not be enough for me to upgrade either...probably a good problem to have, lol.
Great review man. Hoping your next review on the RTX 8090 in the next 5 yrs : )
Imagine the price 😢
My system is ooold but it does everything I need it to do. I recently bought a different cpu and more ram as a sort of mini upgrade, I went from a i7-3930K which I had overclocked to 4.10GHz base is 3.20GHz to a xeon E5-2687W v2 and iv definitely noticed a slight difference as the xeon has 2 more cores then the i7-3930K but it's base clock is lower and it should be turbo'ing to 4GHz but I only ever see it go to 3.8GHz, have thought abt putting my 3930K back in but being a sever chip it allows me to do more at one time so running multiple programs is definitely more easier on the xeon.
The rest of my pc is on a X79 Sabertooth motherboard with 32GB DDR3 1600 and two EVGA 970 SC's w SLI. I game/upload in 1080p and it does it well tbf😂
coil whine is expected with a pny rendition of the 4090, i'm rocking the rog strix and the thing is a stealth bomber, no whine, no sound from the fans, nothing. Anyways i got a very similar setup except i have a different cpu (ryzen 9 7950x3d), same amount of ram, but i don't regret it at all i also bought a asus pg32ucdm monitor to go along with it and playing cyberpunk maxed out with path tracing turned on in 4k while maintaining over 100 fps is the reason why i don't regret it (and not only that game).
For me it was buying a 3090FE from eBay as it wasnt available in Canada no matter how long id waited (2+yrs at that point) but id figure id try again with a friend to nab a 4090FE since i wanted to use RTX Remix (4000 series only) but again the GPU has been outa stock online from launch till no longer produced. Thankfully buddy who did get one will sell me his 4090 since i know 5090 will never be in stock.
I have a 4090, 5800x3D, and Neo g9. This is the 1st Top Build(for a very short time lol) I ever owned. The one thing I will say is the People who have the 4090 have what will be one of the best VALUE Top End Cards ever made. I do not see it not being enough to get a nice experience even when the 5000 and 8000(AMD) series cards release.
As a simracer with triple 4K setup I wish I could afford 4090 or 5090. I just set my monitors to 1440p so I can get stable 100fps in ACC (not maxed out, DLSS Q) with 4070TI and it looks way better than 4K with DLSS Performance (and smoother!).
honestly i feel like there would be a bottleneck with anything less then a 7800x3d or 7950x3d on a res lower then 4k, i dunno though, maybe thats just me
People are obsessed with bottleneck like if they couldn't upgrade the cpu later if needed
3090 ti with 3600xt and or rtx 3080 with i7 12700. I play 1440x1080 comp settings 360hz on cs2, Fortnite, and ow2. Both are the same price with aio and 32gb ram.
I did t spend nearly as much on my 7900xtx but I feel the same. Really wish I would’ve just got a 7800xt instead.
I have never built a PC of this caliber. Always had handme downs and pre builts. I will never do this again but I have no regrets on playing on a high end system
The 4090 is beyond insane. I have the vive pro 2 paired with a 4090. I run the vive pro 2 at the extreme setting which is 5k 120hz and in most cases I maintain a constant 120fps at 5k.
In August of 2023, I bought an RX 7900 XTX. I wasn't really in the market for it because I also have an RX 6800 XT but Newegg had some insane open-box sepcial on an ASRock Phantom Gaming OC model here in Canada for (the equivalent of) $850USD. I couldn't say no to that.
I'm in the same boat as you, I prioritise frame rate over visuals (especially RT) and so my XTX was the perfect card for me. I also bought it because I wanted the 24GB of VRAM to ride out the storm in case of another GPU shortage (caused by AI hardware production).
I don't regret it but I also paid about HALF what you probably did for that overpriced monster.
Love my MSI 4090 Sphere X can't wait to replace it with the 5090
I just ordered a kick ass build literally out of nowhere for a huge chunk of cash 😂 I hope I won’t regret it
I have an almost identical set up but with 128Gb of ram for Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. I need the extra ram for 3D renders.
I got a 4070 ti super currently it’s quite a solid gpu at 4k it seems quite good I have had it for 6 months now I still consider if I should have got the 4080 super for $200 more in terms of the future as I like 4k 60fps+ max fidelity either way it’s still a decent build with the 13700kf.
I bought a 4090 high end pc and will buy a new 5090 high end pc soon, again. As an enthusiast it’s just a hobby. I sell my “old” systems to my gaming buddies way below market price.
I work on game dev far more than gaming. I got an M3 Max, and it runs games around 100 fps at 1440p. Mate that with great battery life, and my game dev work flow is far more stable because of MacOS.
The hardware speed of PC's is undeniable man. They are bastions of speed and power. Reliability can kill it though.
The Mac games good enough for the amount of gaming I actually do.
Neat stuff, coil whine in a 4k$ computer is brutal though imo 😭 that's unacceptable
nice video but i got something to say about this though, hope you read this!
with a 4090 which is far above anything, similar like the launch of 1080ti.. i think 10 years from now you will look at the card with alot of thankfullness, since you dont really max it out and you dont seem the type to upgrade every gen to the best gpu, this will be repayed to you in value 10 years from now.
A couple of 1080ti users that i know were also thinking like this and till this day they dont seems to want to upgrade since they dont feel the need for it.
People will have to upgrade every 3 to 4 of years if they have a mid range pc, i have a 3070 im not gonna play 1080p on a 27inch monitor xD
Remember 980 ti was marketed as the 4k gpu, in the old games yes but now no chance, this gpu will like every other flagship age.
this gpu will be the 1440p legend probably in the future, 1080ti was the 1080p legend ;).
5:49 I was going to say this in the comments but you said it. For certain niches, like flight sims in VR, it's still hard to have too much power. If that's what you're doing, normal hardware reviews with their price/performance comparisons are less useful.
I went all out this year on my pc build, 4090 with all the best parts to go with it, im really wanting to not have to worry about upgrading anything for at least 5yrs, or even 10 😭
10 years... yeah, not going to happen. Just look at the cards from 10 years ago
brother, water-cool those babies. both the CPU and GPU. Create a custom loop, and hang up the build on the wall. You own a piece of gaming history where the turmoil with gpu's and CPU's was arguably just as hot as it was during covid (for different reasons obviously). Keep that chunk of gaming history cool and running forever!
I play VR racing sims and a lot of VR in general and wish I had a 4090. I’m running a 4070ti super, i7 13700f and 32 gb of DDR5 @5600mt with a 850watt PSU. VR can be taxing especially on Sims. I will say my system is completely air cooled and my CPU and GPU pretty much runs around 50-55c under load.
I think you should‘ve gone with the 7800x3d if it was available at the time, since the x3d Chips are the best you can buy for VR Simulation Games.
Maybe something to keep in mind in the Future.
Good thing you went with the 4070ti. A friend of mine is into VR & got the 4070 w/o much research. It was chugging like crazy, so he got a 4090. Then, he saw it needed more VRAM than the 4070 had.
In the end tho, he returned the 4090 and just turned down the settings. He liked the 4090, but it just wasn't worth $1,600 to him.
@@ichigokurosaki1306 I’ve seen people say AMD doesn’t perform as well in VR. I’ll look into it though, probably going to get another card with the 50 series release and then do some more comparisons. Thanks
Instead of a high end GPU it is better to just get a XX70TI model and upgrade that as the next gen comes. AI advances rapidly every VGA GEN has new features (frame generation, DLSS new versions etc) so on the long run u get much better value. In my case: i bought a 4070ti when its released and will upgrade when the 5070ti arrives in a few months. 5070ti will be like a 5-8% stronger than the 4090, so with less money spent overall i will have a 4090S like card with newer techology, software support etc.
I only recently upgraded from my 1080ti. I actually didn't need to. After 8 years, that graphics card can still play any games with 60 or more fps.I just wanted to be g2g for another 8 years lol
It's no such thing as overkill when not all games are optimized well and people who got monsters like a 3080-4090 were prepared for the future, and had they got a weaker card, they wouldn't be able to run those same games at high settings.
It's people who said a year ago 16GB of RAM was enough, yet over the last 4 years, games need that or more.
I wanted a 4090 with a 14900K initially. After months of stalling, I opted to a 4080 with a 7800X3d. Absolutely no regrets basing it on the games I currently play. Will I ever get a 5090 or a 6090? It all depends on what games release in the near future.
If it wasn't so insanely overpriced and wouldn't have this horrible power connector I'd consider it being a good GPU. For pure professional grafic design purposes it probably still is.
But I get what u mean and I'm glad u enjoy your experience. I went overkill on my pc too for the first time and I don't regret it if it's basically for once only.