DeepMind 12: A Tribute
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- After 3 years of owning my Behringer DeepMind 12, I decided to dump everything I've learned about this synth into one video. If you're in the market for your first analog polyphonic synthesizer, or you just want one with great value, the DM12 is a fantastic option.
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Contact: jakubdomine (at) gmail.com
00:00 - Intro
02:33 - Overview
09:06 - Patches
16:48 - Tips & Tricks
23:41 - Playing
The only problem with the DM12 is that I will never need another synth. It does everything I have ever wanted and does it very well.
Yeah once you get into doing FM you realize this synth is a beast
When Trump refers to the Deep State I keep picturing this synth instead.
Shame it needs a fan… otherwise, I love my DM6
@@CoLD.SToRAGE i put the fan speed at 30% and it never kicks in :-))
This is the most cleverly elaborate Ebay listing I have ever seen! Just remember, when folks start selling pocket knives & beanie babies with this level of conviction, this was the genesis.
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Great in-depth overview and the sound demo is absolutely beautiful.
This synth is so slept on, it's a great synth, awesome tribute!
I really like the patch explanations, and love that you explain why every effect is there artistically
Amazing video! The ending jams were superb
14:40 This is an amazing video thank you! Your description of this patch really helped me to understand better the Tone Mod slider and it's use! Beautiful playing also! Thanks again! 💙
One of my favorite parameters on the whole synth! I’m grateful that Behringer included it
Very nice patches! Great video, great playing!
Excellent. Nowadays only few people realy dive this deep into an instrument.
Please don't sell this...put it in a box and store it away. If you're selling it to fund new gear, don't do it, find some other way to pay for it.
After 40 years of playing with synths, bought/sold tons of gear, and some of them I regret selling even now, decades later.
If you have a connection with something, which you obviously have with the Deepmind12(your patches are gorgeous), you will miss it.
I still have my original Roland D50 and Ensoniq VFX-SD bought new in the late 80's. I still play them, and even record tracks with them sometimes.
Trust me on this, you will regret selling it!
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I’m planning to refactor my whole setup to run through a high quality MIDI controller (Arturia KeyLab or similar), so I’d likely end up swapping out my DM12 for the desktop module if all goes well!
@@jakubdomine While I use my hardware synths to play software VST's, I've never been able to make the same connection when using a midi-controller exclusively. I've used rack or desktop modules to replace the actual hardware synths I've had, and it doesn't feel the same to be, there's a disconnect.
Once you've spent 3 years using the DM12 and the workflow, I think you might find using the desktop version differently.
Just my personal experience, and over the years it's happened more than once.
We are all different, and it may be fine for you.
If possible before investing in a really good midi controller like the Arturia, Novation SL or Native Instruments version, get a cheap one and see how the workflow is for you before selling the DM12. Places like Sweetwater or Guitar Center will give you 30 days to return.
Just my thoughts, good luck on whatever you choose to do.
@@richardhermans4457 well put and very true
I have a 12D that I never really dove into to make my own patches besides basic 106 sounds. This video has really inspired me to spend more time with my DeepMind and see what I can create. You are right that it’s a really great sounding and powerful synth. I need to use it more.
great video... it's been a while since I've seen such an interesting video from deppmind. thanks
You've got some crazy chops on those keys. You really make the DM sing. Good stuff!
thank you!
These days every second guy with a DAW claims to be a "sounddesigner" . Your patches brings tears to my eyes. Thanks
thanks for the kind words!
@@jakubdomine you forget the NoteOff velocity feature. I love it on Amp release
Great tribute to a great synth
Beautiful sounds. Such a versatile and warm sounding machine. I’ve a bid in on a 12d right now. Hoping it will be successful and I land it. Thanks for the video.
fingers crossed!
Good playing. Love my DM.
Very nice. Defo on my list for the future still
I was actually looking at the DM6 to add another analog synth to my studio. Now I’m thinking about the DM12. Great review and insight on this synth.
Very nice patches and playing! I will try to replicate on my deepmind. Thanks 🙂
Thank you, if you have questions feel free to ask here!
Well done, enjoyed it.
Thank you, I'm honored to have you in my comments! Believe it or not, your synth show episode with FlyLo in 2020 was the reason that I bought my DM12. I asked about good entry-level polysynths in the chat, and you very convincingly recommended the DM12. Behringer really should have you on their payroll 😂
Really good video, your sound design is excellent, and presentation top notch for someone who has so few videos up. Please make more, the YT synth community good do with a fresh voice.
Thanks for the kind words! I'm absolutely planning to make more synth content in the future, stay tuned!
I'm really impressed with this video given that you don't have a history, at least on this channel that I can see, of doing gear demos. I appreciate your knowledge of the synth and your playing examples are super pleasant. If you happen to be interested in making more of this type of video, I think you have a great base to start from here. Subscribed to see where this goes.
Thank you for the kind words and encouragement! This was in fact my first swing at a gear demo. I’m very happy with how it came out, so I’m currently exploring some more content to follow up with.
Great tribute. Thank you. I think the DeepMind in overlooked at times, basically because it's from Behringer. But I'm thinking about buying the desktop version.
Nice video! It reminds of the DM12's fantastic capabilities. When tweaking VCA and VCF on same values (like you do around 21:30) I love the ability to press VCA and VCF buttons the same time to have the values adjusted for both.
Oh snap I didn’t know that!! Thanks for the tip!
Well done! A very good retrospective on this synth... I want one now!
Really nice programming work, (and nice chord voicings too). You seem to have taken a lot of time to dig into the DM12’s two superpowers, the mod matrix and the effects. Sub’d, hoping to see more. (Edit: Also enjoyed the Radiohead patch vid.)
Thank you so much! I feel like I still have more digging to do
great sales pitch jakub
That guitar patch sounded so good!
Thank you!!
a nice loveletter to a real sleeper synthesizer. my 12 was a deeply discounted thomann b-stock that arrived essentially new in 2019 and it's been a cornerstone of my synth tower since. while i struggled developing a workflow around the mod matrix and some other button combos, the deepmind is a sterling example of immediacy and flexibility and feels purpose-built for the studio, and as you've shown, dedication to understanding the controls unlocks everything. while it's not strictly a 106 clone, it does borrow a lot from that form factor, which pays huge dividends. in the (semi) modular world, the neutron is a similar concept - a fantastic and original design that punches way above its weight.
I wish Behringer would have focused more on these kinds of synths versus clones. I would love to see the OS, screen and effects of the Deepmind married with the sound of a Prophet 5.
It really strikes a balance between immediacy and depth. All the crucial 106 functionality is right there on the front panel, but if you want to go further it has all the features necessary to accommodate you.
@@apoclypse I know right? I hear they're building a generalized development platform for their synths, so maybe we can hope for future Behringer gear to return to this philosophy.
Such an amazing synth. I really hope Behringer does more of this style of building on top of classic synths, rather than just ripping them off (though I admit I own my share of their knockoffs).
What is truly amazing about the Deepmind is that there isn't even an equal virtual instrument. You'd have to combine synths and and fx to get close, and it wouldn't be such a delight to program. Kinda wish the display was bigger, but then again, I don't really want to be looking at a display...
Thanks for the vid!
Choose a better display, and close your eyes.. when you play on it.
This synth is Behringers greatest moment. The obsession with reproducing old synths is ruining them. There are a few nice ideas in this but the dm12 is in a different league in sound quality to the hyped pro800.
Yeah, but it's a cash grab and it's working sadly. People genuinely think they're getting an OB or Moog etc etc. They are no closer than my vst's to them.
This synth show's what they could actually offer to the synth market. A 16 voice poly, with Poly AT, with this feature set... awesome. But no, another mono synth or a crippled aged pro800 nobody really wanted.
Right, the DM12 is great because it's so much more than a Juno 106 clone.
Great video! They are still available in the Netherlands, I just ordered!
I bought the desktop version. I think it is a great synth. I am amazed how many different sounds can come out of it.
Make more deepmind videos. I like it when people recreate patches like what Jorb did with Tame Impala!
I bought my DM12 for € 600 from Thomman in 2019. Two days after it arrived I had a bit of a catastrophe followed by a long illness. Recently recovered and putting together a home studio, mostly virtual instruments, but just stumbled across both your videos. Very good work, mate. I may give it another shot.
Oh, I subbed by the way … seems like you have good channel 😊
Thanks for the kind words! I’d definitely encourage you to dig into the synth again, it’s very rewarding.
Whenever I read comments on the subject of synthesizers, there are always guys who seem to have paid absurdly low prices for their instruments... I would really be interested to know what I'm doing wrong that people always get their synths so dirt cheap compared to what I have to pay🤯! €600 four years ago you say? In our country Thoman is currently selling the DM12 for €830!
@@maval4537 lol
27:39 The playing and chord progressions on the last improv are so amazing.
Nice chords, my dude. Grew up with Junos (60 and 106) and was looking at maybe buying one, but after looking at the prices lately, grabbed a DM12 desktop. Great synth. Don’t use it as often as i used to due to buying a Prophet, but i still use it for specific pad sounds. It goes way beyond Juno’s capabilities, especially with the effects section which i can’t praise enough. Best built-in FX in a synth possibly. Behringer owns TC so it’s not surprising.
The FX on this thing are outstanding, can understand wanting to play your Prophet more though!
Prophet is player's synth. There's Just some thing very inspiring within how it respond. Very jazz
This one got me hooked again, after 25y absence in music scene. I owned Juno106 in the 80' and find the D12 more versatile, making patches takes knowledge and passion. I can see you have both
Thank you!
I like your playing.
Thank you!
Love your sting recreation, close to traditional Eurasian instruments. Mode matrix is for me genius, 👌👍
Thank you!
I appreciate the DM12 is a great Roland-y sounding synth, but Behringer's Pro-800 is a tempting alternative IMO. Its a dual OSC VCO based synth, 8 note polyphonic, small and euro-rack compatible.
Although it's not a new product, I still want one of these. I think this is the only thing I needed to be able to convince myself, was a demo mostly focused on making music. Great patches.
Thank you!
Nice work. I love my Deep Mind but I don’t have a lot of desire to make patches from scratch. If you put a pack of patches together you certainly would have a lot of customers, including me. Wonderful playing too.
Thanks so much, I’m working on that so stay tuned!
This is FANTASTIC! Really appreciate the presentation. Do you share your DM12 patches, or have them for sale?
I’m just starting to work on a process for compiling and selling patches-stay tuned!
Jakub nice steel string harp. Guitar dream. Tracks beautifully in upper octaves. Maybe flick pitchbend wheel for Kyoto effect.
Modern classic
Lovely musical and usable patches, you’ve made there but that deepmind is capable of a much deeper and richer, and more varied textures than what was demonstrated. Ive owned mine for 7years and I’ve had deep meditative drones, mellow Rhodes, ethereal breathey textures, gritty distorted basses, funky Wurlitzer piano’s, acidic bass sounds, orchestral strings and many unique flavours and textures you wouldn’t be able to achieve from a 106. You will regret not digging even deeper and spending more time with it before selling.
So...👌😎
I could only dive into a few patches in this video! Maybe I'll do a playing-only video soon where I demonstrate the range of patches I've created.
Jakub, I was not convinced with the quality of its sound but you have made me think again. I was missing sine, but you demonstrated how to get that in a different video. The preset at 23:50 is that one of your own and if so, are they available to us? Thanks.
Great video preview of the DeepMind 12! I'm really impressed with the sound possibilities. Quick question: how can I make a patch even louder when the VCA is already at its maximum (255)? Any tips or tricks would be much appreciated! :)
Sure, there's a couple things you can do. First, the VCA edit menu has a parameter called "VCA Mode" that has 2 options: Transparent (the default) and Ballsy. Switching to Ballsy will give you some more loudness. If that's not enough, you can use the FX section to pick an effect that has an Output Gain option, like Enhancer or FairComp. These can give you a LOT more gain, but just make sure you've turned off everything else in the effect that might color the sound. For example, in the Enhancer you'll want to make sure Spread, BassGain, MidGain, and HiGain are all set to 0 before you turn up the OutGain for loudness. Hope that helps!
Got one when it came out barely used it as the menu is all over the place and it crashes freezes sometimes however it does have some good analogue circuitry chips etc and sounds..my other boards are jx8p, d50, korg trinity plus, juno gi, jupiter 80, korg wavestation, casio privia px3, casio cz101.. im thinking of getting the asm hydrasynth deluxe and at a later date a better stage piano
I bought this synth: you are going to be my bff for the next period of time (will watch this videos a lot)
Oh , yeah ... My name is Mikkel , and I Love Gear ! 👆
Great demo, useful tips, you give a fresh point of view on this synth, thanks ! And nice playing, too.
Why are you saying you’ll get rid of your dm12 ? Or maybe I misunderstood ?
I was planning to sell it and replace it with a DM12 desktop unit, but I've decided to hang on to my unit instead to make more videos!
Nice Yamaha sgv in the background ;)
Love that thing, wish the fretboard were a little wider though.
Companies should pay you to create factory pre set patches!
you’re tellin’ me!!
I have the Deepmind 12 D fore a few time. So I play it with my 88 SL studio piano touch. Thanks for your presets showing why I was confident buying it on internet as what is shown to listen is a poor view of the ability of the deepmind.🙏🧡💚 So why do you sold this instrument? You may have a good reason?🙀
I'm actually thinking about switching to a setup like yours. I'd love a keyboard with piano action, so I'll probably buy a DM12D and control it with something like an Arturia Keylab 88 mkII. Then for future synth purchases I'll try to buy mostly desktop modules.
I really like my deepmind, but it's not exactly beginner friendly in my opinion, even though the controls seem in line with what'd get on a Juno, you still need to perform some tricks to make it shine. With the Pro-800 now being available, I think it's a better choice as it's super immediate thanks to a mostly knob-per-function and quite traditional in terms of subtractive synthesis approach. It also sounds really great even without FX. The tradeoff - you need to have an external midi keyboard as it's a desktop module.
That said, I have both and neither are going anywhere :)
Just finished your video, you got some really nice sounds on the Deepmind, and great playing too!
That’s a good point, the Pro 800 probably has an easier learning curve for true beginners who are trying to grasp fundamental subtractive synthesis concepts. I’d argue that the DM12 does more to introduce users to higher concepts (modulation matrices, different types of digital fx, etc.) without forcing them. I think it encourages more exploration and ultimately could push beginners a bit further in their synthesis journey than the Pro 800, at the expense of a slightly steeper learning curve up front. Would you say that’s a fair comparison?
Got a used/like new 12d for $500 shipped to pair with my pro800 and completely blown away. Minilogue XD desktop was my 1st poly synth but was really close to getting a DM6. I completely regret that decision.
The Minilogue XD is fantastic, but I think the DM12 just has more versatility and power.
Great demo.👍🏼 Btw-Why are you getting rid of it,offhand? Lack of space,or upgrading to a different synth?
Thank you! I'm a keyboard player so I'd love a MIDI keyboard with piano action. I'll probably buy a DM12D to replace this synth and control it with some high-quality piano action controller.
For the learner that I am, what kind of or which piano controller are you thinking?
Hey Jakub:
GRRREEEEEEEAAAAAAAAT Video!
I own a Deepmind 12 since one year now, but it seems that I don't konw very much about this machine. But You have given me lots of helpfull informations.
Thank You very very much!
Greetings from germany
Markus
PS: Have You found out how to create the classical Lyle Mays sound with the deepmind?
Thank you for the kind words! I'm not familiar with the Lyle Mays synth sound, could you link an example here?
@@jakubdomineShure: ua-cam.com/video/zhZy4SCV50E/v-deo.html
I'm trying hard to find Out in which was I have to Set Up my deepmind, but without success.
So You have an Idea?
@@Stammeskrieger1 This got me pretty close to the sound in the video:
0) Initialize a new patch
1) Square only on OSC1
2) OSC2 at full volume, make sure sync is off and set it a few cents sharp or flat of OSC1
3) Add a few cents of pitch mod to OSC2, make sure LFO1 is moving slowly
4) Set your polyphony mode to Mono, set Env-Trigger to Retrig, and set Osc-drift to 15
5) Close the filter and move the Env fader all the way up in the filter section
6) VCA Env: Att=22, Dcy=128, Sus=255, Rel=128
7) VCF Env: Att=0, Dcy=51, Sus=201, Rel=128
8) Mod Env (Env3): Atk=0, Dcy=40, Sus=0, Rel=0
9) In the mod matrix, map Env3 to OSC1 Pitch with a depth of +4
At this point you’ve got the sound, but I’d probably add reverb/delay FX and map either the mod wheel or aftertouch to pitch mod to add some playable vibrato. Hope this helps!
Hi Jakub, thanx for Your Help. IT seems that I Made Something wrong Here. One Question: at Nr. 5 You wrote: Close the Filter. Which one do You mean?
And at Nr 3 You wrote: make Shure LFO1 ist moving slowly.
I have to use LFO 1?
Pleased help me, I'm confused...
My most beloved synth, in my opinion the best Behringer built to this day. Sadly they don't make them like that anymore and regressed to pure clones with as little additional features as possible.
I have a love hate relationship with my DM12D,, never got the keys as the keybed was trash when it 1st came out.
I use mine for an FX section or to broaden my pads from another synth.
It barely ever gets showcased as a main synth as I have synth that cut through the mix better.
It's not a bad synth, it's just a pita go get to the fx through menu diving.
My Rev 2 module destroys it for UI.
GL with your next synth, hope it's a good one.
Did Behringer update the keybed between production runs? Mine feels like a pretty standard synth action with good build quality. Definitely agree that the FX section is clunky to use-the companion iPad/desktop app makes it 1000x easier.
@@jakubdomine yeah they did, but the way they went around it, they had some shill on GS denying that there was any keybed issues, they were uneven and this was widely reported.
My problem was solved easily with just getting the module.
I could never get wifi to work with mine so I don't know if the IPAD app works. I follow instructions to a T but that was a few years ago so probably haven't tried since.
Love your patches! Any chance they're available? Or did you already sell the unit?
Working on setting up a system to sell patches, stay tuned!
At the 27:40 mark - the patch has sustained bass and plucked right-hand notes. How is this achieved? I’m a new DM12 owner.😊
I’m using a sustain pedal, but if you wanted low notes to decay slower than high notes you could use the mod matrix to map the note num to the decay of one of your envelopes.
Does anyone know if you can mess the synth up of you put phantom power into is by accident… I made a mistake
Maybe you can answer this for me...if you use 2 voices per key, would that drop polyphony to 6, making the Deepmind 6 just 3 note polyphony?
Yep! Poly modes divide your polyphony by the number of unison voices per note. The DM12 is nice because you can explore those higher unison modes without restricting your playing much
Great video but why if you love it did you get rid of it?
Was originally going to refactor my setup to include a piano action midi keyboard and small desktop synth modules, but I’ve decided to keep the DM12 after all!
Good work bro. That was cool. This might sound strange but, mine has an oil leak. Something inside it had dropped oil and it spread under the bottom. Hasnt affected it adversely though. Never gigged, always covered. Just saying. Ps its a wonderful machine, 👍
Hm, sounds like an gasket problem in your engine. Might wanna drive that in to a mechanic
Probably need to get my pads machined. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you share the patch that you used on the 23:43 mark?
What synth do you plan on replacing your Deepmind 12 with Jakub?
When I made this video, I was planning to sell it and replace it with a DM12 desktop unit to have more space. Since then I've decided to hang on to my unit to make more videos!
Great decision:)
I sold some gear that I really miss now.
Is this synth as good as an Arturia Polybrute? Thanks.
Haven't used the Polybrute myself, but I'd say the Polybrute is definitely marketed as more of a high-end synth than the DeepMind 12.
i mostly use the deepmind as a midi keyboard, also has a hack with the weight keys that makes it less springy
The big question is, what will be replacing the DeepMind in your setup?
I’m thinking about swapping it out for a high end MIDI controller (Arturia KeyLab or similar) and investing in some desktop modules! The UDO Super 6 module is a likely pick right now.
@@jakubdomine sold mine a year ago along with the Hydrasynth.
I wanted to upgrade to the Novation Summit
I don't miss the Hydrasynth at all, sounded too digital, and hate digital wave tone.
However, I've always missed the Deepmind 12, even with the Summit, which is an incredible synth.
I dunno, for sound creation there's just something about the Deepmind 12, it's incredibly flexible, easy to use, you can go from subtle ambiant sounds to crazy modulation sweeps and amazing drones that constantly move in seconds.
It's made me realise that selling it was a bad move. So...I just bought the Desktop version, and yeah...so glad I've got a Deepmind 12 back into the studio.
As a Side note, the Super 6....I does suffer from Vioce stealing when creating sustained pads. It's very noticeable...just something to bear in mind.
I was thinking of getting a summit however I'm waiting for my deepmind 12 to arrive as it was cheaper.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 that’s a good point, I’ve definitely been spoiled by the 12 voices on the DM. I’m a sucker for super wide stereo patches which is why the Super 6 is appealing to me-idk of another synth built around stereo width as a main feature. Alternatively I could wait and spend all my savings on the Super Gemini later this year….20 voices is pretty insane
@@jakubdomine Yes you can get nice stereo spread out of the UDO 6.
But you won't be able to create a pad patch like you are showing in your video on the DM12 due to noticeable vioce stealing when using sustained chords.
I'll be selling the Udo 6 for the Gemini. It's the much better Poly synth of the two.
I'm saying that, however I really want the Waldorf Quantum Mk2 more so might put the ££ towards that.
👍I LOVE ! 💙⚪❤
the Deepmind is a gorgeous (sounding) synth! I love him more than somme of the more expensive synths...
Analog sounds having to be turned into digital to be fed into the FX-processors and then be turned back to analog: isn't that a big loss in sound quality?
Are there splits and layers user defined?
Nope, the DM12 is mono-trimbral-only one patch can be loaded at a time
So glad I didn’t sell mine
So this begs the question, what are you buying to replace the DM12?
Nothing! Since making this video, I've decided to hang on to my unit to keep making videos. At the time, I was thinking about replacing my unit with a DM12 desktop module to save space.
Do you sell your patches??? Let me know!
working on it, stay tuned!
make 808s please
Patch for 27:38, please?
Better than korg minilogue xd?
Can't say that one is objectively better than the other, each synth is good at different things.
so what's the actual reason you're getting rid of it then?
I'm in the process of refactoring my setup to run everything through a high-quality MIDI keyboard (something with piano action, I'm a snob). In all honestly, I'll likely end up replacing the synth with a DM12 desktop module.
Still sellin’ it?🫣
Sorry, not anymore! I've decided to hang on to my unit to make more videos.
Two years later you’ll be scouring websites to buy on back! 😂
After some research I’m probably gonna swap mine out for a DM12D and a nice MIDI keyboard 🤣
Biggest flaw on the DM12 is that they forgot to make it bi-timbral. Missed opportunity.
There is a trick where you can turn off local on part of the keyboard and it still will send the midi notes , so you can have it play a differnt synth on some of the keys
Why can’t they make this multi timbral