War Thunder - HOW will the SOVIET TECH TREE (Air) look like in the FUTURE? FLANKERS? Su-24's? Su-57?
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Talking about the Soviet Tech tree and the FUTURE of it!
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00:00 - Future of the Soviet tech tree!
00:45 - Rank 5
01:44 - Rank 6
05:02 - Rank 7
09:02 - Rank 8
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Don't forget the Su-37 and 47, they might have been only tech demonstrators but they would've used the latest and greatest weapons during their times. R60M, 73s, 77, 27ET/ERs etc etc bombs, AGMs, and they were mounted with 30mm cannons. I'd like to see them and use them, they are my loves!
Go play ace combat 7 then they’re in that game the su47 and su37 shouldn’t be added even the yak141 shouldn’t have been added
@@raygunreagan2274 been there done that, now I want in them in War Thunder and chances are very high they will come in due time. People will pay its a fact. And the game is now finished with pure historical BS. Its now gonna need to start bringing more proto, and half built and blue print vehicles. Besides that is the inevitable.
@@raygunreagan2274 Warthunder is that kind of game that only generates hype with the addition of new stuff every update. At some point Gaijin will be forced to add those proto/tech demonstrators aircraft, like the mirage 4000, f16xl, 15 stol/mtd, su37, su47, yf23 and others
One sad thing about SU-47 is that it may end up being an CRAFTING EVENT vehicle
@@kajmak64bit76 Yeah, same for the yf23 if it comes to the game and other prototypes or tec demonstrators (su37 terminator, f16xl, and others). Anyway, i think those iconic aircrafts deserve to be added
Su-27 and so on are huge aircraft, would be interesting to see how they compared to the others.
We already have f-14 which is big
@@bigmemer4398 the is su 27 massive
@@thesupreme8062 f14 is bigger
@@eze3922 its slightly bigger but its faster and a twin seat, and the comparison is bad, the su 33 is bigger than an f14 and its also carrier capable
I doubt there will be Mig25. That thing cant really turn and I dont think there will be hypersonic missles so it will be basically useless
damn the grind is gonna be crazy even if only half of these planes come out
For sure... but hopefully the economy changes will soften the blow a bit XD
I think there should be a part 2 of a tech tree. For example tier 9 would be locked until the rest of the tech tree is done, then to make the grind easier, some of the first rank 9 would be a lot cheaper in rp, comparable to rank 5 or maybe 6. Or they could just make the rp go barely go up and a huge jump in rp multiplier
Just missing the Su-47 as an event vehicle on rank 7
Su-30 and Su-27 forever in my heart😊
There is a huge gap between the 29M (9.15) and the 35 . Since you went for the SMT ( which incorporates most of the upgrades of the 9.15 ) as a followup to the 29S i believe the 29M 9.25 or 9.61 would be more appropriate as a step towards the 35.
This tech tree would be a dream come true.
Will you do a video like this for all countries in game? I think it’s a neat idea.
EDIT: Okay you already did, but what about ground and maybe Naval?
He alr did that for almost every country
Yup! The only nations left to do are Sweden and America, then we'll move onto ground trees and more videos about nations that can come! Not where they'll go as a subtree or arguing for whether they should be a full tree in themselves, just sharing what vehicles different nations have!
@@lazylime8046 when can we expect the swedish and american tech trees?
@@mlaczu8088 I've gotta add one vehicle to the American tree then it's good to be recorded, the Swedish tree's finishing up planning - been really busy the last week so I've not had a chance to finalize its planning stage.
@@lazylime8046 ok, thank you
Did you do the American tech tree yet? Super stoked to see the (educated guess) AIr top tier tree especially the F-111 and F-16C :)
The F-111 is soon to be passed.
They should add south Korean and Turkish vehicles to the US tech tree since gaijin wants to fuck over the US with the m1a2T coming to chinese tree
@@jnlk2505 Also some other countries such as the Singaporean F-5S (personal benefit)
@jnlk2505 south Korea should go to Japan. If anyone doesn't like it, they can go speak to TEC about it and have a cry.
@@jnlk2505 fr
Latest MIG-31 family is MIG-31K with most modern radar and KHINJAL hypersonic missile
Yo I love you for making this man. Was looking forward to this lineup
I'm surprised that the mig 25 hadn't been added yet, it's so iconic.
Gaijin pls I need my mach 3 steel shitbrick of a plane in my life
First time seeing your channel. And i absolutely loved this video. Amazing work.
Su-30sm2 after su-30sm and maybe tu22m3m would be cool
great video as always!
I could also add Su-37 after or before Su-35S or in Su-30s line, Su-47 as event or premium and Su-75 to MiG line
Too early for the su-75. It hasn't even started air trials yet
A tech tree MiG-21PFM or a MiG-21S should be a must. Maybe a MiG-21S with its correct R-11 engine (or even a MiG-21PF with a cannon pod, like some of the later ones were retrofitted with). But USSR needs a transition between the early MiG-21F-13 and the SMT.
*Also, more MiG-17s (F, PF) and 19s (S, SV) are welcomed
Not holding my breath, but I would love the PFS with the forward hinged cockpit, GP-9 capability and SPS system. Also I hope we will see the RS2-US missiles at some point, even if they would be terrible in-game
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 100% agreed
dont forget the MIG-31 could also carry the KH-47 Kinzhal hypersonic missile which would be a really cool addition with its long range and it being almost impossible to intercept we would get the 700kg conventional warhead most likley since i dont think a "low yield" nuclear warhead would be fair as a nuke option since it travels at Mach 6 almost
Would be nice to see su47 and su37 as some kind of event vehcile or premium.
Would be nicer as tech tree vehcile.
Also where would the su75 checkmate go if you had to estimate?
The Su-47 and Su-37 cannot come to the game as they were not military vehicles, they were simply technology demonstrators never meant for any kind of service. The Su-47 was also never armed and never capable of being armed.
The Su-75 hasn't even had a first flight yet nor had more than a mockup seen, so we decided not to implement it. It would probably go under the Su-57 if I had to guess, since it has a lot of the same systems and parts but it's smaller and would probably be fitted with a newer radar (though these are all guesses assuming it ever enters service, which it most likely won't)
@@lazylime8046 We have quite a few vehicle that nvr went into service, hell they weren't even completed, E-100 as e.g. but this is a game and we wanna have these vehicles. 37 and 47 aren't as aggregious as F-16AJ in Japan. A proposal was implemented! Why can't fully funcitonal prototypes and the weapons we know they would've mounted, theres no weapon they would've had that we are unaware of.
@@mab2187 Because they aren't prototypes and they wouldn't have mounted anything - because the Su-37 and Su-47 weren't prototypes. They were technology demonstrators.
@@lazylime8046 would, could, should, its a game bruh, just have fun with these.
@@mab2187conut
For April fools we need to get something like a future North Korean Tree. Just have it lined up with nothing but Ace Combat planes and their insane stats. Nothing like having 200+ AA missiles.
Super Video Mat. Thank you. But you don't have to apologize for the video being so long. Future Tech tree videos are longer depending on the nation. For me it can also be an hour long - explained a bit more relaxed and even more detailed.
When I first time saw yak 131 I was fascinated by it
20 HOURS😭😭😭
Noooo
😂100 minet
Bro what the
Nooooo
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5:11 i love how you included the pic of my countries airforce lol
I would also like to see later Versions of the R-27 Almos missile in game.
The R-27EA for example would be a Active guided missile with a much larger range.
The most interesting and outstanding missile would be the R-27EP.
A Variant with a passive seeker which means it would basically be a anti radiation missile but against air targets.
It would be most effective against AWACS planes but it would be alao interesting to see it be fired on 5th gen aircraft.
My theory which makes sense is that they may skip MiG-29S and just go to MiG-29SM and then later add the SMT
SM is basically an S that has access to TV and Laser guided things... and idk if this is SM specific but it can also use the central / fuselage pylon for other things not just a drop tank
So i think they should either skip the S and go to SM and then SMT which is an SM but muuuch more fat for extra fuel
( T in the name stands for "Toplivo" which is russian for fuel it"s same thing as MiG-21SMT )
Or they can add the S... then SM and then SMT all in a folder or S + SM / SMT folder
Or S / SM folder and SMT separate?
I think when the 5th gens will be added in the game the SU-75 will be more than an prototype so there is a possibility that it will be added as well.
Well made video bro well done this is a masterpiece and we all love ur content.
But u forgot the Tu16 badger bomber with 9000 kg bomb lol and yak 25 and many other Soviet planes that could be added
Radar:🚫
Raider:✅
the su33 su30 and su27 gonna be sick
6:44 The Su-25TM could replace its gun pods with flare pods.
I think the su 27-47 will be in the fighter line not in the heavy attacker line
the MiG-25 bombers would go crazy
I think adding of these vehicles is possible only if gaijin will do massive br decopression and edit of br for su25s, a10s and other more modern CAS planes, i mean 11.3 su39 ?
Oh yes I can't wait to fight Su 57 in my Saab105G
I would like some really fast aircraft (mig-25;su-24) but then we would need some bigger maps (for size like the Danish sim map)
edit: have you submitted these tech trees (Israel; Russia;china) to Gaijin? I mean you should they are outstanding; detailed
Personally, I can't wait for the SU-30.
I hope the su 27m will be added as a premium
the only reason I trust is that gaijin really added the f-15 and su-27
The Su27s will most likely not be all in the attacker line but on the fighter line as well and it won't end with just mig 29 then mig 35, since the F16 is also on the American and many other countries fighter line and it can also carry ground attack. Most likely the Su57 will also end on the mig 29 line as they want as many planes as possible before getting a 5th gen fighter jet which they will also do for the Americans.
You forgot about the MiG-31K - it would be fun to throw a missile into a neighboring game (I mean a neighboring game in Steam, not a neighboring battle)
I would give my heart and soul for an SU-37 in an event
Pretty good, but I think we need a T-10S-3 as a premium Rank VII. R-60M's and R-27R/T's, Zook radar, no refuel tanks, no ground armament.
You should folder Su-27s Early and Late into one folder. Su-37 should either lead to Su-35S, or be a premium. It was the testbed for advanced avionics, electronics, and control surfaces for both the Su-35S and Su-30SM. It's basically the first of the "High Maneuverability Sukhois" as some categorize them. Lastly, you need to add the Su-47, either as a tech tree, premium, or event vehicle. It was a testbed just like the 37, for the new features that became the Su-57. Maybe even a PAK-50 as a premium too.
At this time i think gaijin only will Add (maybe) a Better MiG-29 Variant to Fight with the F-14B and the Su-27 that im hyped asf to fight the F-16 and F-14B
i want to see the MiG-25 and the Su-34
I’d love to see the Yak 130
Su-37 event would be sick
And please don t forget the MFI 1.44
and SU 47
I cant wait to see su 27s in the game
Plz make a video on the US tech tree as well
The video is just super, but I have a small suggestion. It could be added as a premium aircraft to the 8th rank of the SU-47. This is an extremely interesting machine with the appearance of a space ship , so I think it would be very popular in the game
(I apologize in advance for my poor English, and therefore I have to write through a translator)
how odd the su-9 is already in the tech tree yet it looks the same as the su-11
I will be dead when this is released
The thing is in this list, none real bomber added, even when Soviet have tons of them, Tu-22, Tu-95, Tu-160,...
Would love to see the ground version
@matAWG I see you have the su 57 at the bottom but we're is the designated call sign (terminator) I don't see it
Su-30 is like an F-15E, its a ground/naval strike version of the Su-27, still being able to do air to air combat plus the ability to carry air to ground weapons like anti ship missiles (Kh-35, P-800 oniks, brahmos,...), KABs, air to ground missiles like kh-31 (all variants) and Kh-59
Eh comparing an su 30 to the f15e is an insult
@@thesupreme8062 ability wise not performance wise tho
@@stanleylt20385 i mean the f15e is an infinetly more effective aircraft.
@@thesupreme8062 i mean this is not a comparison, the su-30 can do pretty much the same things the f15e can do.
@@thesupreme8062 besides, we all know how good your beloved f15e perform so no need to justify it again.
You are the only one whos making true content about russian forces without being biased by NATO and ukraine thats some dedication & bravery only a very few have to talk about everything from a neutral point.
I wonder where SU-47 and Mikoyan Project 1.44 would go.
I thought the mig-35 was equipped with an AESA radar or is that an upgrade version of it?
edit: nvm I went back and heard him mention it
NO36?
Make video like this on tanks would be interesting
We'll be waiting until after this upcoming update to make ground trees - I've made a couple already but I'm waiting to update them since the next update will be primarily ground-focused.
We better get the SU-27 T-10 variant as some sort of event vehicle
Su-27 and mig-29 line don't make any sense, those versions have only small improvements (some versions posted has only updates at radar jamming, something that we don't have) for top tier fighters and bombers, don't expect nothing much as 2 more mig-29s (M and SMT), 3 Su-27 (A, M and SMT) and 2 Su-35 (Su-35S, because A it's just an engine upgrade of su-27m, and Su-35SM), and in bombers area probably only one su-33 in yak área and one su-30 at su-25 area.
you forgot one on the list the SU-47 Berkut
BRO WHAT WAS THAT INTRO!
I NEED SAUCE!
If Tech Tree's become this large I'm voting for a split tree like with the Navy Trees.
Everyone be talking about modern su aircraft only or high tier migs
I am just happy with the idea of good old su-15
I think MiG-25P early should be event vehicle rank 7
And Su-25TM could be rank 8 because short-range & medium-range Air-to-Air Missile full options
I've seen a Su35 fly irl and just...wow
It would be fun to see this with the other nations in the game, like the USA, Germany, Sweden, etc.
He has them already
Russia was his only outdated one
@@FoloQ Nah Sweden and America are also outdated, America's pretty much finished production but I need to get to making Sweden.
To be honest. The Su-25k grinder was a good investment. The Russian tree is in a good situation and gets a lot of attention from the developers.
I didn't sleep to watch the video, I already drank 3 liters of coffee
mig25 as such a low BR rank would create the same issue with low-ish tier 104s where they can run all game and waste the 25mins. just smt to keep in mind when balancing such aircraft
MiG-25 is like less capable then F-104 lol
Can you do one for all the nations?
what abt the Tu-95, and Tu-22 and the Tu-22M/M2/M3 ?
I would think that 5th gen aircraft would probably be considered to be rank IX.
I would like to see the su47 berkut
Unfortunately that's not a Russian Aeroforce vehicle, that was a Sukhoi technology demonstrator. It's technically a civilian aircraft since it was never armed, didn't have a radar and wasn't intended to ever be used in combat.
@@lazylime8046event vehicle should be fine then
@@stevenortiz9008 No, it wouldn't have any armament at all. You wouldn't be able to do anything.
I tbink it would be cool to have an experimental aircraft line tho a lot of prem are experiment aircraft
4th gen can be milked for ages adding new f-15, f-16, f-18, su-27/30, mig-29, etc variants every patch
MiG-23bis? Where does it come from?
This tree looks like how it might look like in the "close" future, not in perspective
What they should do is look into Consol systems because I can dump 40 different flares chef and regular pitch. My plane cut. My afterburners and missiles will find me every single time I can’t avoid them ever there’s something wrong with that I fire missiles I see three or four flares pop out my missile goes for the flares I never hit the enemy people say skill issue. If so, then let’s play together show me how
Que voce acerte irmão, pois eu só to começando a upar a linha aérea soviética por conta do su 57
Still hoping for a functional CIWS that shoots down both planes and guided missiles
how did you make these?
I hope they add the mig 41 with the ram jet version as premium and the turbine jet version as tech tree also the role of the jet is a stealth interceptor aircraft its and for its speed Mach 4 to Mach 5 and equipped with an anti-missile laser, weapons will be lazer weapons hypersonic missiles and anti satellite missiles
I wanted to choose American tech tree on every kind of tech tree vehicle but they limited the amount of crews and have to use golden eagle to expand.
Don't play America to be honest, it's really weak in air and ground.
@@lazylime8046 i dont know about air but i hear the F16 is pretty capable, on ground the US is pretty good especially at 11.3 and above with the Abrams variants, they are behind germany/sweden who are dominant at top tier atm and pretty much on par with russia, nothing like italy, japan & france and partially england who are objectively not nearly as good, with israel being somwehere between the top 4 nations & the mentioned weaker nations.
i *NEED* the MiG-31B in this game
im hoping the su 47 will be added to it will probably be a premium but if it is it will be the first premium i buy
Due to the upcoming update i had a short review and realized theres no Su-37 either.
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Внуки твоих внуков
what are the chances on any of these predictions being correct?
When will you do USA Air and German air?
Both are already done and uploaded!
i cant wait fr
by the time gaijin adds all this the su 75 would come out
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Bro. the mig 25 is a interceptor to chase the valkirie bomber. it shoud carrie R-40R and R-40T
And the MiG-25PD could carry 2 radar missiles while also carrying 4 r-60m's on dual-mounts, so i mean..
If su47 isn't in there I'll be sad
Probably a marathon/battlepass addition, cause it's only 1 prototype
@@aenodarr7936so it can be added
@@aenodarr7936 It wasn't a prototype, it was a tech demonstrator - one that was never armed and never even had a radar.
@@lazylime8046 there was one mockup with missile bay and it could carry a large amount of missiles in it
just so I don’t get it twisted, this is basically just a prediction right?
Yes
Yes and no, it's mostly just going over what can come to the game with a rough outline on where stuff will go
What about mig1.44, Su-47,su-37 and su-75?.
A lot of mistakes. For example, the MiG-23 BIS, there was no such aircraft. There were only MiG-23M, MiG-23MS, Mig-23ML, Mig-23MLD. And export variations. There was no modification of the BIS.
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I'd like the Japanese version, please!
Why didn't you do the future of the USA tech tree