I would disagree with your assessment of the SU-122. That thing has T-34 armor at BR 2.3. That thing is bouncy as hell, even more so than the KV tanks later on. The gun is also very good. The 122mm HE round is able to overpressure most targets with the HEAT round having very high penetration should the need arise.
I love low-tier armored vehicles with huge guns, like StuH 42G, Sherman with a 105 mm gun and this SU-122, the main thing is not to expose the sweet sides
I was using panzer 38t this guy shots at me misses he keeps missing so I had to slowly pound at his barrel and then get righ of his tracks then hpget him from the side
I think you are underestimating or misunderstanding many of these tanks. The KV-2, SU-122, SU-152, and ISU-152 are fabulous (especially the tank destroyers - which are some of the best in the game). They have HE rounds that demolish any tank you shoot at. The reload is really not much of an issue if you play second line like you are supposed to. The PT-76B is also great once you get the HEAT-FS. The armor is bad, yes, but when you are sneaky and make use of your stabilizer, you rule. The ASU-85 isn't trash, you just need to be careful. The early T-34s are not bad at all, especially the 1942 model. The T-26 family can actually be quite fun, especially the T-26E. The Rank II SPAA vehicles can be incredible against planes, especially the BTR-152A. Lastly, the T-10 was greatly undersold. It's really a good tank, both the A and the M.
you dont even need to load HE , since it can be unreliable and requires you to aim on tank roofs or sides of the tank. If you just loaded the APHEBC, you can go through Jumbo UFP up to 3km, and still have sufficent high explosive power ( 1kg TNT filler in the round), your shots wont be stopped by trees and you can shoot anywhere on any tank and you will penetrate and kill it. no need to aim for a weakspot on the jumbo with the HE rounds (mantlet)
I think this guy is either a bit new to the game or he never had to grind because of the content creator program gaijin has. I think he never had the chance to grind out these tanks or never bothered until these videos so he’s not very familiar with things I’ve noticed quite a few times in this video where he’s just plainly wrong. I don’t dislike him at all and in fact I like him but he is wrong sometimes and that’s okay because maybe we are wrong so it’s not something to hate him for.
40:34 id beg to differ, the t-64's hull armor may be paper at its tier, but the turret cheeks SOMEHOW eat up dm53 no problem even around the gun mantlet area and is by far the strongest turret in the game for no reason whatsoever ive tested it in top tier matches hull down it can take top tier shell hits
About T-90: Yes, it was a somewhat T-62 "reboot". But is more interesting to me, as russian militarist geek - it was the only tank, what was made by people from my city - St. Petersburg. Yes, others was made - either in Moscow, or in some Ural's cities and etc. But t-90? Hell no, it was a first tank - which was in my city, lol, AFTER A LONG TIME. Yes, actually - before that - St. Petersburg was build tanks (in WW2), but it was KV-series tanks. After that - was A LONG hiatus(?). And no - there not was re-name-ing actually, there was only in somewhere 1990, new directive to make "New Gen" tanks. And it was produced - but in small scales. Actually - 1990's Russian Weaponry - was quite experimental. For example - T-90 was have even MORE deep modernizations - like "Knyaz' Vladimir" ("King Vladimir" - you can called it(?). A so called "Y2K-year tank", lol ), or "Black Hawk" (which is funny - still in "Top Secret" Status. Rumors - half of his gimmicks - ended up in Armata's Tanks.) (Offtop here) And continuing my words about "Russia was experimenting in 1980-1990" - just look, what was we have: BTR-90, Whole T-90 series, That first actual Soviet/Russian REAL(!) (And last Soviet train) actual High Speed Train ER-200(?) and Russian (first Russian Train) "Sokol" High Speed Train (which, fun fact - was made by Army. Yes, by same people - who, right now, still working on Russian U-boats, lol) , whole AK-rifles was in quite interesting products - "Abakans", AN-94, AEK-971, AK-100 and AK-200 series, AK "Vepr" (For Russian SpetzNaz) and etc. Also, "Buran" Space Shuttle. There was even Games Consoles made in Russia in that time - "Turnir" and "Electronica" game consoles (There was a "Rambo" and "Dendy" console - but it was clearly a Thailand copycats of Atari 2600, and NES). Even some Soviet Original Computers, but they are even more cost, then Import Counterparts. Even Last Soviet Cars/First Russian cars was cool - UAZ Symbyr (Predecessor of UAZ Patriot, and last Soviet Era UAZ), Volga-3102 (Last Soviet Volga) and Volga-31029 (First Actual Russian Volga, and the most Corrosive. "Black Sheep" of Volga Series) and even my beloved underrated Volga-3105 ("Turbo-Volga"), AZLK/Moskvistch "Aleko" car, Last Soviet LADA - Lada SAMARA (Or Sputnik - in Russia) and First Russian Lada - Lada "110 Series". In the end - so much cool stuff was been made in First modern days of Modern Russia. So sad to see - it quickly was either scrapped or quickly shut down for New Series of products (Yes, it even implies to T-90 and BTR-90). Eh, good times. Sry - for that BIG wall of text, but it really was a cool era of Russia.
Upgrade your crew. I have something like a 35 second reload which isn’t bad for what it shoots. Just gotta make shots count and aim for the heavies that the t34s and kv1s struggle with
I think Russia has the most fun tank lineup in the entire game. It's at 4.3 where you have a great heavy, good TD options, a great scout, solid CAS options and can pair those with the entire gaggle of T-34/76 models. My favourite flavour is thus; T-34E STZ, T-34 mod 1941, T-34 mod 1942, KV-1 ZiS 5, SU-85 (can take 152 depending on how you like your TD's), ASU-57 and ZSU-37. I use the premium Thunderbolt for CAS (which is godly) and the Yak-3 for air superiority if needed. This lineup absolutely claps in every sense of the word and doesn't really have a weak link at all. The star vehicle for me is the KV-1 ZiS 5. You can be a complete and utter bastard in this thing. Once spaded it is very mobile for what it is, while being very tough to penetrate for the enemy. Even guns that can go through struggle if there's a slight bit of angle about it. Top fun if you ask me.
Russia has a lot of tanks to fill all BR but theyre northing special. The only tanks that are woth are t3485 t34100 t55am t62am shturm Khrizantema t80bvm and 2s38 as AA, Cas P47d and SU25 the rest are... Always a step below everything else since you only get uptiered constantly. and except p47d and su25 theres nothings cas worthy except KA50/52.
The su 122 is basically a sherman 105 without a turret it's very powerful. Also the pt76 is very good, you have a stabilizer so you always fire first and heatfs pens everything and does decent damage
actually Kirov was killed by a Trotsky supporter, because Kirov kicked him from the party or some shit, if Stalin did have Kirov killed he wouldnt had attended his funeral,or referred Kirov as his best friend, or the For Kirov or something poster
Just go forwards and the game will take care of everything for you, from killing tanks at full speed while unstabilized to bouncinh the most bs shots ever
Why bash the stabilized Heatfs boat known as pt76 when It has good qualities such as: + fast reload 6s + 2 plane stabilizer + decent speed 44kmh + 200mm pen Heatfs In tier 3 Sure it has the same survivability of a milk Truck but that doesnt stop you from making panthers cry.
Great video but i won't agree with one thing. T-64B and weak armour. I see you probably don't have it spaded (especialy don't have ERA). Well, I have it almost 90% spaded and I would say, before I researched the ERA modification I could agree about armour part, but for me, for some magical reason after getting it, T-64B became tanky as hell, boucing a lot of shots even on uptiers, strange considering that contact 1 has only 5mm effectivness againts APFSDS (and yes i was boucing APFSDS).
Minor incorrect fact, in tier one, the BT's did NOT have a smooth ride, it was very much the opposite. The reason the Soviets bought the model was because it was very fast.
supplementary info -Even though BMP-3's turret and BMD-4's turret seems alike, they use different turret and hence have different ATGM loading speed. -ZSU-37-2'S radar can't be folded, making it more eash to spot in ground confrontation. -khurizantem at 8.3 have proximity fuze missile, but Strum S at BR 9.3 does not. -T90A is the only modern soviet vehicle with time fuze HE shell. it can be as useful as proximity fuze in some situation. +theres very capable vehicle (practically upgraded T-72AV TURMS-T) Named T-72 Mordena. it have wide angle thermal2G for commander, and have western monolithic penetrator shell(TANPA) with 509mm pen andhave 30mm auto cannon with ap(65mm) and HE(3mm) belt. It's mobility and chasis is rather lack luster, but it have shit ton of ERA(developed with cooperation btw slovakia and NATO) which provide certain level of defence even against KE shells. and it have smoke dicharger with 12 shell per spray, providing significantly larger angle of cover of sight. It's my favorite vehicle and donna Y he skipped it.
You got the khrizantema and the shturm backwards, khrizantema is 9.3 ground radar and no he-vt missile shturm is 8.3 with the he-vt missile and the t-72m2 is an event vehicle not in the tech tree
For me the KV-2 is the tank that I bring out when I absolutely have to kill a ground target as hard as possible. Shoot the lower half of the turret of anything that has a turret, watch the HE overpressure through the roof and kill the crew.
suprised over that you didnt mention the obj 268. also the su and isu152 are easily the most feared tanks at their BRs.. APHEBC can pen Jumbo and Panther UFP up to 3km, and the ISU has good armor , and due to its boxy nature, you can angle it very effectively and bounce tigers and sometimes even panthers. and the OBJ268 which i mentioned, has the same round as the SU and ISU 152's except much higher velocity, allowing it to pen tiger 2 UFP point blank range (if its unangled) , which is extremly strong. and its armor can stop british 20pdr (84mm) APDS to the cheeks. litterally every brit i encountere always shot me there, thinking they have the perfect "kill everything" gun...
I usually have massive success with the su-57, that little juicebox kills all, respect the pouch. Also on the t-64a, fun fact: it has better cheek armor than the m1a2 abrams in game, it has pretty consistent ~850mm protection against kinetics.
Uh are u tripping the abrams has 1300mm effective I checked the armor t64 a only has 900 to 950 so uh myth busted there also you can angle abrams turret to negate even atgms especially bmp2m and the sides are also very good because the turret
@@lilzenongene well I looked at it it’s about 3000+ on the little parts of the turret t64b has a weak turret compared to abrams plus you have to look at who can angle their turret angling is more better than sloped because it’ll make a difference in battle I have tanked over 50 shells in one game with abrams also to mention didn’t die I didn’t even hull down because when I angle abrams the turret becomes immune and the hull well yeah extra fuel tank protects me from literally everything
@@lilzenongene it could just be m1a1 aim because it has composite screening in that turret of its but yeah you have to look at angle in turret not slopeness
Su-122 and Kv-2 are perfectly adequate. I don't know what you mean regarding "only destroying someones barrel or tracks" - overpressure's been in the game for a while, definitely before this video, so...
Ik im a bit late but roughly when this vid came out i was playing rank 3 ussr and i found the pt76 very enjoyable and it slotted into my 5.7 line up preaty well Ofc playing with apcr kinda sucked but with the tigers it was bearable until i got to heatfs then i knew i was like god as most shells just went right through me (as they say best armour is no armour)
I believe that u did not mentioned some of the worst trash on propose; like the BM-8-24, tough at least u could say to "avoid it at -all- any cost" . Also I just traded my T-10A for a Leo 2AV.
Great video, I was at 7.3 back in 2017 when I stopped and when I just returned was wondering what to expect. Looks like 8.3 is going to be worth it. Cheers!
CONCLUSION: performance is made by a good player, soviet tanks are OP but newbies think they are immortal and spamm them and die, making soviet reputation bad
As someone who started playing two months ago with USSR as first nation, it often feel at times as if I am playing a new game on the second hardest difficulty. Currently I am at Rank 4 and my biggest opponent is USA tanks whom I don't seem to be able to penetrate with T-34-57 and KV-85's, whilst getting oneshotted myself quite easily through frontal plating.
you know what they say, this is clearly a skill issue. just make sure to side climb. of course, as a US main, just flank. most of my teammates are clueless lmao.
Su-100 is not "slightly upgraded Su-85M" but Su-85M were made because soviets didn't have enough 100mm guns by that moment so they put 85mm gun in Su-100 hull
don't know how it actually performs in game since I haven't unlocked it yet, but the t64a seems to actually have an impressively strong turret, being impenetrable to almost anything at its br
Ok you can call the Stalin series of tanks either JS or IS is fine. It depends on you pronounce Stalin's name. If pronounce it like this "Joseph Stalin" then its JS, however if your pronounce it like this "Iosif Stalin" which is closer to the Russian pronunciation its IS. Neither IS or JS are wrong and can be called either or depending on how you pronounce Stalin's name.
a hilarious bit on the t-72A gaijin compared it to the Abrams in their thunder show series. they said the t-72a won in every single way possible and then said it wasn't a fair comparison because the t-72a was 9.3 vs the Abrams at 10.0. Not seeing any bias in this they decided to put the Abrams against a 10.0 Russian tank and it lost again
Imma have to disagree on the pt it’s pen is good and the heat doesn’t usually let me down and for some reason the shell actually over pressures for me unlike the 90mm on the higher rated light tanks
@@joshhanklonI suppose of anyone knew anything about Ukraine’s policies and nationalistic movements since 2014, they would say “they (Ukraine) asked for it”.
I’ve played this game since it came out, and my biggest advice is to definitely watch these videos and learn the maps as best as possible. Especially the maps you commonly see, you can greatly exploit most new players or even ones that just don’t pay attention. It’s the knowledge that out beats the firepower in this game. Russia is still OP though so play Russia lmao
*The PT-76B has one of the best gun stabilization at 5.3, It has HEAT shells.* *The ASU-85 has a laser rangefinder, HEAT shells, and stock it can pen 245mm.* *If used correctly, these tanks can be a menace, otherwise, you have a skill issue.*
Why have you omitted the KV-122 in rank 4? I have bought a good while ago because it was cheap. At that time I did not like the heavy tanks, and it has a long reload and its armor is not great, but since then I became a better player and I started to like it much. At 5.3 it sits at a pretty low BR and it usually one shots Tigers, Panthers regardless where you hit them....
Tbh I prefer the is1 over the is2 solely because of the fire rate. If the shell bounces or you just misjudge distance you pretty much just have your floppy cock in your hands while you wait to be rushed
Just using 7.3 bmp, obj 906 and zsu-57 to grind the tech line, skip all the early cold war t-54. Then buy a BMD-4, with BMP-3 to finish all the rest. Sovet early cold war is totally SXXT. No stabilizer, no RF, no smoke, no NVD and of cause no thermal.
T-64A can easily be penetrated by 105MM DM23 which is quite common at the BR. The T-64B having bad armour though? That bastard bounces 105Mm DM33 easily with the ERA package.
As a new player whose finally researching the T-50, I agree that the T-26 makes me want to hang myself. Getting away from the T-26s and you already got through 1 challenge.
after playing down the german, british and american lines, holy shit the soviet tree is stupidly good. it's genuinely like the game is on easy mode, bouncing shots that would have definitely penned for other tanks, almost every kill is a one shot. russian bias is real beyond any doubt; i don't think it's because of any actual bias with the developers, just the fact that the "official specs" come from some apparatchik in the 70s bodging the numbers to make their achievements more impressive.
Wheres the t-60, t-70 and t-80 light tanks? The t-80s are infamous with their 3s reload time, and being a 1943 tank it can pen basically everyone at its 2.0 br.
I've been loving your deep review of the entire Tech Tree in War of Thunder is very funny and of course Very informative keep up the good work I hope you do well in the future because these videos are very good
The t64bv with its era nothing it faces can reliably penetrate it especially if you force a shot, even in a full uptier it only faces the extra 4-5 10.3 tanks that exist resulting in unnoticeable change in performance. It eats top rounds consistently and can survive multiple atgm hits with its era. But the major thing is that it faces 8.3 with the 3bm42 round, which melts through anything, uptiered or not.
I suck at war thunder, and I was gonna grind the American tech tree but I got so mad after getting deleted so many times in Sherman’s so I decided to grind the Soviet tech tree I will definitely use this so I won’t get deleted
Ngl, I say the 96 a P is a little better. It has better horizontal and vertical speeds, and armor that seems stupidly trolly some times. And the slightly better engine, which it's like 20 hp so isn't crazy. Better round for no reason. You lose the citv but I always forget to use it anyways ngl
Problem is that China has a pretty lack luster 9.7 line up. You could say that German 10.0 with the new PzBtl is now the most dominant, but 9.7/10.0 Russia is still pretty strong. You should make some WT vids if you want to grow your channel
@@SAKOSNIPER hm, I do agree with that with China. I just mean more one to one^^ I recently caved in for the 96P and I just honestly feel dirty using it. It's vertical speed just feels really nice to me compared to the turms
Idk what to do, I’m using t34 (1942), kv1 (the 4.3 one), kv2, yag 10, and pe-8, what should I do? I get one shot every time even angling and I can’t pen anything even in down tiers.
I'm new to this game, and I think it's a stupid question but I can't figure it out, at 1:57 how do you shoot while in the scope/binocular mode? I have to scope out in 3rd person view and then fire.
I'm at 5.0 for USSR, a problem I face is getting up tiered, I'm getting bearly any research and spending more sl then I gain on repairs, gonna switch tech tree, any ideas?
8:32 "GIRTH over LENGTH" words to live by
I would disagree with your assessment of the SU-122. That thing has T-34 armor at BR 2.3. That thing is bouncy as hell, even more so than the KV tanks later on. The gun is also very good. The 122mm HE round is able to overpressure most targets with the HEAT round having very high penetration should the need arise.
I love low-tier armored vehicles with huge guns, like StuH 42G, Sherman with a 105 mm gun and this SU-122, the main thing is not to expose the sweet sides
it also has very good gun traverse speeds from side to side which is pretty surprising for a lower tier vehicles
It's mantlets armor is utter useless, early panzer 3s can breech it
Man, I remember playing the SU-122 back when HE shells just outright killed anything they hit.
It was the greatest of times :)
I was using panzer 38t this guy shots at me misses he keeps missing so I had to slowly pound at his barrel and then get righ of his tracks then hpget him from the side
If you think the SU-122 is "mediocre" you literally have skill issue and should get good.
Thing is so fun you act like a heavy mobile mortar cannon
su 122 is literally god tier
The reload time is the only issue and it's very easy to kill
@@cowboythomas5904 it has alot of armor tho
@@zedriver7678 armor wouldn’t matter if the enemy your up against have skills so it 70% workable and 30% bad
I think you are underestimating or misunderstanding many of these tanks. The KV-2, SU-122, SU-152, and ISU-152 are fabulous (especially the tank destroyers - which are some of the best in the game). They have HE rounds that demolish any tank you shoot at. The reload is really not much of an issue if you play second line like you are supposed to. The PT-76B is also great once you get the HEAT-FS. The armor is bad, yes, but when you are sneaky and make use of your stabilizer, you rule. The ASU-85 isn't trash, you just need to be careful. The early T-34s are not bad at all, especially the 1942 model. The T-26 family can actually be quite fun, especially the T-26E. The Rank II SPAA vehicles can be incredible against planes, especially the BTR-152A. Lastly, the T-10 was greatly undersold. It's really a good tank, both the A and the M.
I agree
Exactly
you dont even need to load HE , since it can be unreliable and requires you to aim on tank roofs or sides of the tank. If you just loaded the APHEBC, you can go through Jumbo UFP up to 3km, and still have sufficent high explosive power ( 1kg TNT filler in the round), your shots wont be stopped by trees and you can shoot anywhere on any tank and you will penetrate and kill it. no need to aim for a weakspot on the jumbo with the HE rounds (mantlet)
@@petrkdn8224 that is true too, though I just really enjoy blasting tanks apart with 152mm HE
The PT-76 with heat is a fucking menace on a flank bro.
20:34 T-44 HEAVY AND SLOW??? Bruh one of its main selling point is it weight and speed. It's lighter than the T-34 (31 vs 32.2 tons)
it feels much slower since it has been moved to 6.7 or it can be the fact that I'm used to Top tier now
@@YoRHaUnit2Babe coming to the 44 from the 34 it's noticeably faster, better acceleration, better manoeuvrability imo
I find the T-44 has better top speed than the T-34 but is no faster in terms of acceleration or close quarters manoeuvring.
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I think this guy is either a bit new to the game or he never had to grind because of the content creator program gaijin has. I think he never had the chance to grind out these tanks or never bothered until these videos so he’s not very familiar with things I’ve noticed quite a few times in this video where he’s just plainly wrong. I don’t dislike him at all and in fact I like him but he is wrong sometimes and that’s okay because maybe we are wrong so it’s not something to hate him for.
40:34 id beg to differ, the t-64's hull armor may be paper at its tier, but the turret cheeks SOMEHOW eat up dm53 no problem even around the gun mantlet area and is by far the strongest turret in the game for no reason whatsoever ive tested it in top tier matches hull down it can take top tier shell hits
Yeah gaijin needs to fix it
And turn it into paper armor as it was in real life
@@cristobalalvarez5491 wouldnt say exactly paper it could probably still stop early apfsds along with HEAT-FS
That's where self entrenching comes to play ;)
Yea both the T64s were probably my favourite experiences
About T-90:
Yes, it was a somewhat T-62 "reboot". But is more interesting to me, as russian militarist geek - it was the only tank, what was made by people from my city - St. Petersburg.
Yes, others was made - either in Moscow, or in some Ural's cities and etc. But t-90? Hell no, it was a first tank - which was in my city, lol, AFTER A LONG TIME. Yes, actually - before that - St. Petersburg was build tanks (in WW2), but it was KV-series tanks. After that - was A LONG hiatus(?).
And no - there not was re-name-ing actually, there was only in somewhere 1990, new directive to make "New Gen" tanks. And it was produced - but in small scales.
Actually - 1990's Russian Weaponry - was quite experimental. For example - T-90 was have even MORE deep modernizations - like "Knyaz' Vladimir" ("King Vladimir" - you can called it(?). A so called "Y2K-year tank", lol ), or "Black Hawk" (which is funny - still in "Top Secret" Status. Rumors - half of his gimmicks - ended up in Armata's Tanks.)
(Offtop here)
And continuing my words about "Russia was experimenting in 1980-1990" - just look, what was we have: BTR-90, Whole T-90 series, That first actual Soviet/Russian REAL(!) (And last Soviet train) actual High Speed Train ER-200(?) and Russian (first Russian Train) "Sokol" High Speed Train (which, fun fact - was made by Army. Yes, by same people - who, right now, still working on Russian U-boats, lol) , whole AK-rifles was in quite interesting products - "Abakans", AN-94, AEK-971, AK-100 and AK-200 series, AK "Vepr" (For Russian SpetzNaz) and etc. Also, "Buran" Space Shuttle.
There was even Games Consoles made in Russia in that time - "Turnir" and "Electronica" game consoles (There was a "Rambo" and "Dendy" console - but it was clearly a Thailand copycats of Atari 2600, and NES). Even some Soviet Original Computers, but they are even more cost, then Import Counterparts.
Even Last Soviet Cars/First Russian cars was cool - UAZ Symbyr (Predecessor of UAZ Patriot, and last Soviet Era UAZ), Volga-3102 (Last Soviet Volga) and Volga-31029 (First Actual Russian Volga, and the most Corrosive. "Black Sheep" of Volga Series) and even my beloved underrated Volga-3105 ("Turbo-Volga"), AZLK/Moskvistch "Aleko" car, Last Soviet LADA - Lada SAMARA (Or Sputnik - in Russia) and First Russian Lada - Lada "110 Series".
In the end - so much cool stuff was been made in First modern days of Modern Russia. So sad to see - it quickly was either scrapped or quickly shut down for New Series of products (Yes, it even implies to T-90 and BTR-90). Eh, good times. Sry - for that BIG wall of text, but it really was a cool era of Russia.
Oh didnt know that
Dude! That is an amazing detail. Thank you for sharing this. Hello from Argentina!
¿the KV-2 BAD? IT HAS THE POWER OF GODS (and a 10minutes reload yes)
Upgrade your crew. I have something like a 35 second reload which isn’t bad for what it shoots. Just gotta make shots count and aim for the heavies that the t34s and kv1s struggle with
You still need to know where to shoot
I think Russia has the most fun tank lineup in the entire game. It's at 4.3 where you have a great heavy, good TD options, a great scout, solid CAS options and can pair those with the entire gaggle of T-34/76 models.
My favourite flavour is thus;
T-34E STZ, T-34 mod 1941, T-34 mod 1942, KV-1 ZiS 5, SU-85 (can take 152 depending on how you like your TD's), ASU-57 and ZSU-37. I use the premium Thunderbolt for CAS (which is godly) and the Yak-3 for air superiority if needed.
This lineup absolutely claps in every sense of the word and doesn't really have a weak link at all.
The star vehicle for me is the KV-1 ZiS 5. You can be a complete and utter bastard in this thing. Once spaded it is very mobile for what it is, while being very tough to penetrate for the enemy. Even guns that can go through struggle if there's a slight bit of angle about it.
Top fun if you ask me.
Russia has a lot of tanks to fill all BR but theyre northing special. The only tanks that are woth are t3485 t34100 t55am t62am shturm Khrizantema t80bvm and 2s38 as AA, Cas P47d and SU25 the rest are... Always a step below everything else since you only get uptiered constantly. and except p47d and su25 theres nothings cas worthy except KA50/52.
I totally agree. The 4.3 line up is incredible and the kv-1 zis 5 is one of my favourite tanks in the game
@@martinortegacano8229until ypu find a tiger h1 and end up dying cause of a "skill issue"
Kv1 Zis5 is 4.7 not 4.3. Kv1e came back for a while and is at 4.3
Correction: T-80U does have the 3BM46 which is almost as good as the 3BM60
honestly, 3bm46 will be more stable than 3bm60)
The su 122 is basically a sherman 105 without a turret it's very powerful. Also the pt76 is very good, you have a stabilizer so you always fire first and heatfs pens everything and does decent damage
It’s reload has been buffed since the video I think, it used to be worse because you just fired too slow to compete without any armour
@@Bigwhiteogre wdym the front is strong for the BR
yes pt79b is my favorites tank it's shells are god tier
Bro skipped the Object 685 and T-72 1989 RIP.
actually Kirov was killed by a Trotsky supporter, because Kirov kicked him from the party or some shit, if Stalin did have Kirov killed he wouldnt had attended his funeral,or referred Kirov as his best friend, or the For Kirov or something poster
well this guy knows nothing about Soviet Union only red man bad NPC theme.
Shut up tankie
Really appreciate the work/effort you put into your videos. Games like this can't get enough informational content like tutorials/guides and such.
Just go forwards and the game will take care of everything for you, from killing tanks at full speed while unstabilized to bouncinh the most bs shots ever
As a russian main i reckon your comment is spot on, also having german mains usually not on your team is a great advantage
5:53 can we just appreciate the absolutely insane accuracy of that shot.
Why bash the stabilized Heatfs boat known as pt76 when It has good qualities such as:
+ fast reload 6s
+ 2 plane stabilizer
+ decent speed 44kmh
+ 200mm pen Heatfs In tier 3
Sure it has the same survivability of a milk Truck but that doesnt stop you from making panthers cry.
I got PTSD from the APCR and now hold a grudge
@@SAKOSNIPER now imagine me, that spaded the chinese one when it still was 5.3
@@SAKOSNIPER undestandable case of hyper stock syndrome and that old terrifying 9s reload
@@SAKOSNIPER it took me 3 games to get the heat. Scouting is a must with apcr. tho I still cant manage to play it good
@@SAKOSNIPER the apcr grind wasn't bad for me
Great video but i won't agree with one thing. T-64B and weak armour. I see you probably don't have it spaded (especialy don't have ERA). Well, I have it almost 90% spaded and I would say, before I researched the ERA modification I could agree about armour part, but for me, for some magical reason after getting it, T-64B became tanky as hell, boucing a lot of shots even on uptiers, strange considering that contact 1 has only 5mm effectivness againts APFSDS (and yes i was boucing APFSDS).
I have it spaded and it’s a beast
T64BV is a gem
When they finally make to we’re contact 1 armor can’t bounce apfds rounds russia top tier will get cut in half.
Now imagine a T-64BM "Bulat"
@@stephenstowe9711
>Kontakt-1
>top tier
Brother are you seeing people taking 9.7s to 11.3?
Minor incorrect fact, in tier one, the BT's did NOT have a smooth ride, it was very much the opposite. The reason the Soviets bought the model was because it was very fast.
tbh the su-122 was my favourite rank 2. it carried me thru games with its "armor" and its so fun to play
supplementary info
-Even though BMP-3's turret and BMD-4's turret seems alike, they use different turret and hence have different ATGM loading speed.
-ZSU-37-2'S radar can't be folded, making it more eash to spot in ground confrontation.
-khurizantem at 8.3 have proximity fuze missile, but Strum S at BR 9.3 does not.
-T90A is the only modern soviet vehicle with time fuze HE shell. it can be as useful as proximity fuze in some situation.
+theres very capable vehicle (practically upgraded T-72AV TURMS-T) Named T-72 Mordena. it have wide angle thermal2G for commander, and have western monolithic penetrator shell(TANPA) with 509mm pen andhave 30mm auto cannon with ap(65mm) and HE(3mm) belt. It's mobility and chasis is rather lack luster, but it have shit ton of ERA(developed with cooperation btw slovakia and NATO) which provide certain level of defence even against KE shells. and it have smoke dicharger with 12 shell per spray, providing significantly larger angle of cover of sight.
It's my favorite vehicle and donna Y he skipped it.
You got the khrizantema and the shturm backwards, khrizantema is 9.3 ground radar and no he-vt missile shturm is 8.3 with the he-vt missile and the t-72m2 is an event vehicle not in the tech tree
@@__--_-_-.__---___.__---__- Apologize. I thought it was about whole soviet ground units as this vid also covered about BMD-4
"we covered the T-10-A in the last segment". No, no you didn't.
For me the KV-2 is the tank that I bring out when I absolutely have to kill a ground target as hard as possible. Shoot the lower half of the turret of anything that has a turret, watch the HE overpressure through the roof and kill the crew.
suprised over that you didnt mention the obj 268.
also the su and isu152 are easily the most feared tanks at their BRs.. APHEBC can pen Jumbo and Panther UFP up to 3km, and the ISU has good armor , and due to its boxy nature, you can angle it very effectively and bounce tigers and sometimes even panthers.
and the OBJ268 which i mentioned, has the same round as the SU and ISU 152's except much higher velocity, allowing it to pen tiger 2 UFP point blank range (if its unangled) , which is extremly strong. and its armor can stop british 20pdr (84mm) APDS to the cheeks. litterally every brit i encountere always shot me there, thinking they have the perfect "kill everything" gun...
Ah yes bringing politics into a game, the eternal anglo struck again.
I usually have massive success with the su-57, that little juicebox kills all, respect the pouch.
Also on the t-64a, fun fact: it has better cheek armor than the m1a2 abrams in game, it has pretty consistent ~850mm protection against kinetics.
Uh are u tripping the abrams has 1300mm effective I checked the armor t64 a only has 900 to 950 so uh myth busted there also you can angle abrams turret to negate even atgms especially bmp2m and the sides are also very good because the turret
Or is it just because I have m1a1 aim
@@Idontknowlol595 I've only ever found tiny spots of 1300 on the abrams, most of it is ~800 last I checked
@@lilzenongene well I looked at it it’s about 3000+ on the little parts of the turret t64b has a weak turret compared to abrams plus you have to look at who can angle their turret angling is more better than sloped because it’ll make a difference in battle I have tanked over 50 shells in one game with abrams also to mention didn’t die I didn’t even hull down because when I angle abrams the turret becomes immune and the hull well yeah extra fuel tank protects me from literally everything
@@lilzenongene it could just be m1a1 aim because it has composite screening in that turret of its but yeah you have to look at angle in turret not slopeness
Su-122 and Kv-2 are perfectly adequate. I don't know what you mean regarding "only destroying someones barrel or tracks" - overpressure's been in the game for a while, definitely before this video, so...
I disagree on the pt76 being bad it’s good cause it has a good stab and good heatfs that can pan tigers turrets.
Heatfs is garbage. Yes it pens but what about damage? Yeah, its none existent
@@DrClef_1 so penning the turret and disabling it is useless wdym lmao
@@kikkerkinker550 except its turning the breach orange
@@DrClef_1 just aim better
@@farrel2114 thanks bro, random spall is def fixed by that 👍
"Crew's helmet is the Thickest part of the armor" was wild on ZIS-30
When he said,other than the British I think it was a tad bit biased
false!
U sureee about that
Yes comrade☕☕☕☕☕
Ik im a bit late but roughly when this vid came out i was playing rank 3 ussr and i found the pt76 very enjoyable and it slotted into my 5.7 line up preaty well
Ofc playing with apcr kinda sucked but with the tigers it was bearable until i got to heatfs then i knew i was like god as most shells just went right through me (as they say best armour is no armour)
"How cringe, unoriginal and ahistorical you want the jokes to be"
*yes*
I guess this vid was made before Overpressure became Busted, or before the PT-76B actually became pretty usable
My grandfather, (I’m polish) has a literal tractor with an engine from the T-54💀💀💀
I believe that u did not mentioned some of the worst trash on propose; like the BM-8-24, tough at least u could say to "avoid it at -all- any cost" .
Also I just traded my T-10A for a Leo 2AV.
@Meme_Thunder Sold the coupon on the market, and brought a different one.
@Meme_Thunder Easy. I never consumed it, since i knew it will be a shit premium. But i was planning to sell it at one point when its price are higher.
Great video, I was at 7.3 back in 2017 when I stopped and when I just returned was wondering what to expect. Looks like 8.3 is going to be worth it. Cheers!
CONCLUSION: performance is made by a good player, soviet tanks are OP but newbies think they are immortal and spamm them and die, making soviet reputation bad
As someone who started playing two months ago with USSR as first nation, it often feel at times as if I am playing a new game on the second hardest difficulty. Currently I am at Rank 4 and my biggest opponent is USA tanks whom I don't seem to be able to penetrate with T-34-57 and KV-85's, whilst getting oneshotted myself quite easily through frontal plating.
you know what they say, this is clearly a skill issue. just make sure to side climb.
of course, as a US main, just flank. most of my teammates are clueless lmao.
Angle, turret wiggle, press W and shoot at the not strong part of enemy tanks?
there are also no light vehicles on wheels so players either use the BTs or the milk truck or BTR152
Least sane NATO dog:
propaganda video
The asu-85 reload speed has been buffed to 8.3 seconds and it’s one of the best tank in my 5.3/6.3line up right beside the IS-2 with the better ufp
27:40 wasn’t expecting the n-word 😂
Important question Rang 7
T-A90A -> 2S25
T-72B3-> 2S25M
Correct
And
T-80U and T-80BVM are the best Russian panzer correct ?
Su-100 is not "slightly upgraded Su-85M" but Su-85M were made because soviets didn't have enough 100mm guns by that moment so they put 85mm gun in Su-100 hull
the su-100 was made after the su 85?
don't know how it actually performs in game since I haven't unlocked it yet, but the t64a seems to actually have an impressively strong turret, being impenetrable to almost anything at its br
It's BR 9.0, which usually means it fights BR 9.7/10.0 vehicles due to all the new premiums. It is pretty strong in SIM, and downtiers tho!
Not only at its br its turret is immune to everything in the game due to a bug. Not even dm53 out of l55 can deal with it
Ok you can call the Stalin series of tanks either JS or IS is fine. It depends on you pronounce Stalin's name. If pronounce it like this "Joseph Stalin" then its JS, however if your pronounce it like this "Iosif Stalin" which is closer to the Russian pronunciation its IS. Neither IS or JS are wrong and can be called either or depending on how you pronounce Stalin's name.
I don’t know why but I love the Pt-76 I had a 9 kill game with it when I got it.
The T64BV (V) its with the era have a good armor.
a hilarious bit on the t-72A gaijin compared it to the Abrams in their thunder show series. they said the t-72a won in every single way possible and then said it wasn't a fair comparison because the t-72a was 9.3 vs the Abrams at 10.0. Not seeing any bias in this they decided to put the Abrams against a 10.0 Russian tank and it lost again
Funfact:
Bucket was used to refill the tanks with gasoline/diesel.
Germans used it the same way.
15:21 to come back to rank 3 lineup
Imma have to disagree on the pt it’s pen is good and the heat doesn’t usually let me down and for some reason the shell actually over pressures for me unlike the 90mm on the higher rated light tanks
Wow, very creative jokes dude, here have imaginary "i did my part" points.
Good review of tanks. Cringe berating of Russia. 5/10
Rip Queen Elizabeth II
this is going to be pogger
Put a lot of time into editing it, so I hope you enjoy it 😀
Bro doesn’t know how good I play with the tanks he labelled as “bad”
I can't wait to see what the British one will be like. And the French one. And the Italian one. And the Swedish one.
Pretty good video but as Russian i cant understand why you try to offend my country in video about game💀
You understand why
@@joshhanklon nah i dont
@@n3mry391 Ukraine?
@@joshhanklonI suppose of anyone knew anything about Ukraine’s policies and nationalistic movements since 2014, they would say “they (Ukraine) asked for it”.
@@mikska i know about them, i still don’t think they deserved to be invaded and pillaged
Had me dead when he said su-57 “4.5 gen stelth fighter “ XD
Great Tea-bias as always Sako! Looking forward to Italy and Britain if you do them.
I’ve played this game since it came out, and my biggest advice is to definitely watch these videos and learn the maps as best as possible. Especially the maps you commonly see, you can greatly exploit most new players or even ones that just don’t pay attention. It’s the knowledge that out beats the firepower in this game.
Russia is still OP though so play Russia lmao
Thanks sako
I’ve been waiting for this
hope you liked it😁😁
@@SAKOSNIPER of course I did
*The PT-76B has one of the best gun stabilization at 5.3, It has HEAT shells.*
*The ASU-85 has a laser rangefinder, HEAT shells, and stock it can pen 245mm.*
*If used correctly, these tanks can be a menace, otherwise, you have a skill issue.*
PT-76B has had reload buffed since this video, it was bad before. Also ASU-85 has a regular rangefinder, not laser.
@@Bigwhiteogre sorry, autocorrect*
Why have you omitted the KV-122 in rank 4? I have bought a good while ago because it was cheap. At that time I did not like the heavy tanks, and it has a long reload and its armor is not great, but since then I became a better player and I started to like it much. At 5.3 it sits at a pretty low BR and it usually one shots Tigers, Panthers regardless where you hit them....
i kinda disagree with pt76b, after i unlocked HEATFS it became a ASU57 with 200mm of pen and a turret
May the bias be with you, comrade
Tbh I prefer the is1 over the is2 solely because of the fire rate. If the shell bounces or you just misjudge distance you pretty much just have your floppy cock in your hands while you wait to be rushed
The su 122 is an absolute monster of a tank, panzers IV struggle to pen it the high explosive rounds dominate 2.3
is there an air version for this?
Just using 7.3 bmp, obj 906 and zsu-57 to grind the tech line, skip all the early cold war t-54. Then buy a BMD-4, with BMP-3 to finish all the rest.
Sovet early cold war is totally SXXT. No stabilizer, no RF, no smoke, no NVD and of cause no thermal.
I’m just looking at this as a noob like ‘I just like big Stalinium tanks that go boom with cool looking armour’
Could you teach us how to play the turms? Im terrible and cant find much info
I love all the sexual innuendos to describe tanks 😂😂
15:43 the soviets have an extremely strong 5.7 lineup including T-34-85s, IS-1 and 2, some nice tank destroyers, and excellent aircraft
T64's have great armors especially T64A's turret armor is great frontally and even side. What do you mean weak armor?
T-64A can easily be penetrated by 105MM DM23 which is quite common at the BR. The T-64B having bad armour though? That bastard bounces 105Mm DM33 easily with the ERA package.
A bit off the topic but i truly do think that T-80U turret is way prettier than B one while T-90A is my favourite tank by far
As a new player whose finally researching the T-50, I agree that the T-26 makes me want to hang myself. Getting away from the T-26s and you already got through 1 challenge.
It would kinda be great if you ran through this through the actual tier list
after playing down the german, british and american lines, holy shit the soviet tree is stupidly good. it's genuinely like the game is on easy mode, bouncing shots that would have definitely penned for other tanks, almost every kill is a one shot. russian bias is real beyond any doubt; i don't think it's because of any actual bias with the developers, just the fact that the "official specs" come from some apparatchik in the 70s bodging the numbers to make their achievements more impressive.
Tysm the guide is really helping me out
the SU-152 is good, you have to know how to use it
👍 WOW! Can't wait to see this... An excellent 💡 idea for War Thunder beginner and advanced players! 🎯
Thank-You! 😍
Wheres the t-60, t-70 and t-80 light tanks? The t-80s are infamous with their 3s reload time, and being a 1943 tank it can pen basically everyone at its 2.0 br.
I've been loving your deep review of the entire Tech Tree in War of Thunder is very funny and of course Very informative keep up the good work I hope you do well in the future because these videos are very good
Great Video. Love your humour xD
Nooo you forgot my boy KV-122 😭😭😭
The t64bv with its era nothing it faces can reliably penetrate it especially if you force a shot, even in a full uptier it only faces the extra 4-5 10.3 tanks that exist resulting in unnoticeable change in performance. It eats top rounds consistently and can survive multiple atgm hits with its era. But the major thing is that it faces 8.3 with the 3bm42 round, which melts through anything, uptiered or not.
I suck at war thunder, and I was gonna grind the American tech tree but I got so mad after getting deleted so many times in Sherman’s so I decided to grind the Soviet tech tree I will definitely use this so I won’t get deleted
Can’t wait to watch it sako
Sure, the T-54 (1947)'s armor SOUNDS trolly, but I don't bounce shots because I'm not being shot at.
I'm being hit by solely rockets. It's 7.7.
1:54 how do i fire the machine gun?
Ngl, I say the 96 a P is a little better. It has better horizontal and vertical speeds, and armor that seems stupidly trolly some times. And the slightly better engine, which it's like 20 hp so isn't crazy. Better round for no reason. You lose the citv but I always forget to use it anyways ngl
Problem is that China has a pretty lack luster 9.7 line up. You could say that German 10.0 with the new PzBtl is now the most dominant, but 9.7/10.0 Russia is still pretty strong. You should make some WT vids if you want to grow your channel
@@SAKOSNIPER hm, I do agree with that with China. I just mean more one to one^^ I recently caved in for the 96P and I just honestly feel dirty using it. It's vertical speed just feels really nice to me compared to the turms
Idk what to do, I’m using t34 (1942), kv1 (the 4.3 one), kv2, yag 10, and pe-8, what should I do? I get one shot every time even angling and I can’t pen anything even in down tiers.
Guide to Soviet tech tree = 1. Enter match. 2. Press "W". 3. Bounce ridiculous shots. 4. Repeat
Hey. Which one is better? T-34-57 or SU-85?
I'm new to this game, and I think it's a stupid question but I can't figure it out, at 1:57 how do you shoot while in the scope/binocular mode? I have to scope out in 3rd person view and then fire.
I'm at 5.0 for USSR, a problem I face is getting up tiered, I'm getting bearly any research and spending more sl then I gain on repairs, gonna switch tech tree, any ideas?
the SU 122 is amazing what are you on
In rank 3 T-34-57 (1943) is really amazing premium as it has glitched ammo rack and can't get killed by it