Any brand will provide as a kit lens with a f/2.8 or less or even less than f/3.5 because price will increase as the size of the lens and the packaging and to logístic cost, and the sales for 24-70mm or any other lens will decrease because with a 20-60mm f/2.8 the most of the People won't need to buy a Secundarios lens. I could work with a lens like this and probably buy a other one Just will be for more angle or for more bokeh or maybe thinking in a zoom to other options.
the 20-60 and the 12-60 (mft non leica) are some of the best kit lenses of all the other brands. They are sharp enough, lightweight weather sealed, decently built. Just excellent kit lenses. And as you mentioned yes, they do allow you to make some money with them!
Great overview. Very, very informative! I have the 50 and 35 Lumix 1.8 and am considering the sigma 16-28 to cover the wide angle range. I am just wondering if color rendition is similar between the the sigma and the Lumix lens, ie., do you find it difficult to match them when editing? Thanks for any info you may have, and again, great video!
I love the 24-105mm f/4 lens and use it all the time. It is also parfocal. It has a great range and isn't clinically sharp for shooting video. I own the 16-35mm Panasonic lens and use it mainly for video also.I have the primes and like how light weight and all being the same size. I'm looking at getting two S5IIX's as second & third body's for filming and photography. I will then have the S1H rigged out with my ninja and v-mount battery solely for filming. I do get tired of having to pull everything off that camera when ever I have photoshoots.
Great short resume, thanks for doing this! I cannot help but disagree with one point in your review. The 20-60mm kit lens is a sleeper lens . Sure it's not gonna win any awards for the design, BUT if you treat it like a 20mm F3.5 prime and 26mm f4.0 almost-Macro (0.43x magnification + more with an inexpensive extension tube(s))... it's an awesome proposal and way better than many other kit lenses. It is a tremendous value! Pair it with the 85 & 50mm 1,8 primes and you have a super lightweight setup that can get you 95,33% of the shots (taking into account the APS-C crop mode capable S5 series that turns this whole range from 20mm (FF) up to 127,5mm (Crop). Great review Caleb!💜
@@HustlHub.Community the prime 50mm 1.8 lens gives you that extra options for very little additional money. It will separate background from the subject much more that the kit lens @50mm due to the shallower depth of field (f-stop 1.8 vs 5.3 on the kit, I believe). Due to that it will also look more ''cinematic'' and the prime 50mm is also a bit better lens in sharpness and detail especially when stopped down a bit, to f2.8 or more. 50mm on full frame, for me, is just about perfect for so many uses that I feel I could shoot a lot of materials just with that focal length, so it feels it's a no brainer investment :-)
this is a great question and i’m actually gonna make a video about it. can’t go wrong either way in my opinion. both great but if you want autofocus then s5iix if not the gh6 is so great
From my 2 years experience with S5 (same as S5 II). 16-28 is the true great all around lenses (mostly have it all time , for content gimbal shots). I have also my 24 F2. (perfect for gimbal shots). If you want a good 85 mm (lumix 1.8 is great/lightweight if you mostly use for videography ) but the sigma 85 1.4 is better in all way. I used my sigma 35 & 50 1.4 art lens (CANON ) wich produced really nice images great for videography & photos. My most unused but still my favourite looking (35 MM T2.1 MEIKE) I've bought it for his character but it's huge and Manual so mostly when i'm trying tosave space for travel its the first one I don't pick. (despite I love his soft character very cinematic looking). The best things with S5 I II IIX . is theire vintage adaptation. You can pick any inexpensive vintage lenses and truly get out with something special. Since pair with the best stabilized full frame in the business. I end up using some 200 f4 fd or even 300 fd f 4/ (wich I paid 30 € and 50 for the others) And they are tiny so a great way to have a good telephoto on location. (+ had a vintage character perfect for documentary). So FD 50 mm 1.4( i love the flare it producte) is insane on this one you should guy check it or 28 mm FD 2.8.
@@HappyMSI1 but from memory I think I bought the 135 3.5 for like 40 euros ( add the fd to L mount adapter . you have a 135 that can save you for less 50 euros
I'm picking up with S5ii X This week. I need a lens to film workouts in my garage. I only have about 10-12 feet of space between the camera and two people on camera. When I had a Canon 70d I used a 10-18 efs wide-angle lens to film. What's a good option that's similar to that for the S5ii X. Also, a lens option for shooting cooking videos in the kitchen? Apparently, I need all kinds of help lol. please post the link with your affiliate info so you can get paid too!!!
Moved from the GH4 to the S5 Mk II with 50mm f/1.8 and 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6 instead of the constant aperture zoom lenses I had with micro Four-Thirds. Things feel similar enough but I've stuck with still photography so far but its only been about two weeks. Thanks for sharing.
I have all the primes but the 24mm. The Laowa 90mm 2x macro is reallllly fun and super sharp with virtually no chromatic aberrations. Also just got the sigma 150 - 600 and it is my favourite lens right now. Just has some trouble focusing and at times I can't use the manual focus in AF modes.
thanks for the leads. anyone try the laowa 16mm f/2? lookin to shoot ~24mm equiv on the s5iix @ 4k60p. small prime/pancake would be ideal. for shooting lowlight scenes w the camera inside of a car interior
I have the 24-70 f2.8 sigma and the 70-200 f4 from Lumix. I really want a f1.4 prime for portraits. But also doubting to go for a 1.8 lumix prime for better autofocus with my original S5. I notice that my lumix lens has much better video autofocus then the Sigma lens...
Im still using sigma 18-35 1.8, yes it is aps-c but at 35mm covers full frame and gives me that 1.8. And as I shoot lots of 60fps I am shooting aps c anyway, so the good old 18-35 makes sense
I am going to buy the s5 ii, but not sure which lens I should go for as a kit lens. What do you think? 1-S5 ii + 20-60 kit lens (£100 more expensive) 2-S5 ii + 50mm 1.8 kit lens I have no other lenses and not planning to put another £400+ on an additional lens in the near future. (Portrait/ landscape photography)
I agree with most of this. The kit lens is by a distance the best I've seen. You could easily shoot very decent looking video with that, I got the 50mm S prime bundled with the camera but sold it immediately because I found it really anodyne and lacking in character. I have both the Sigma contemporary and they're just outrageously good for the money 24 would be great at the wide end of the medium zoom, but that would probably kill its bigger brother's market and its own light weight. i also have the 70-200 F4 and I like the images but I've having substantial problems with focus hunting, I don't know how common that is? The Sirui is super interesting. Even more so when it's a set. Thanks for the video.
As i usually record with light enough, i'm using Lumix 16-35 f4 for video, for events i usually use 24-105 f4 and for ecommerce and portrait Lumix 85mm f1.8... I like also night photography with milky way or full moon so i like 24mm f1.8 and Sigma 100-400
Panasonic full frame lenses are large and expensive (primes)…the only reason I’m considering Canon R cameras. Though I’d prefer Panasonic for other reasons.
I am a content creator dealing with Lego bricks, which lens would you recommend for overhead shots and shooting arranged sets. I stream 60% of the time.
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If Lumix re created that 20-60mm and gave it a F2.8 my god.. I'd buy it in a heart beat. Great video!
It’d be a lot bigger at 2.8…
@@MARZILLI as long as it's no bigger then the 24-70
@@JozzieProductions Good point…
This ^
Any brand will provide as a kit lens with a f/2.8 or less or even less than f/3.5 because price will increase as the size of the lens and the packaging and to logístic cost, and the sales for 24-70mm or any other lens will decrease because with a 20-60mm f/2.8 the most of the People won't need to buy a Secundarios lens. I could work with a lens like this and probably buy a other one Just will be for more angle or for more bokeh or maybe thinking in a zoom to other options.
the 20-60 and the 12-60 (mft non leica) are some of the best kit lenses of all the other brands. They are sharp enough, lightweight weather sealed, decently built. Just excellent kit lenses. And as you mentioned yes, they do allow you to make some money with them!
agree, I am actually doing some client work with it and everybody is happy 😊
Thus the reason why I love your channel, your technical knowledge and your friendly personality.
thanks for watching!
Great overview. Very, very informative! I have the 50 and 35 Lumix 1.8 and am considering the sigma 16-28 to cover the wide angle range. I am just wondering if color rendition is similar between the the sigma and the Lumix lens, ie., do you find it difficult to match them when editing? Thanks for any info you may have, and again, great video!
I love the 24-105mm f/4 lens and use it all the time. It is also parfocal. It has a great range and isn't clinically sharp for shooting video. I own the 16-35mm Panasonic lens and use it mainly for video also.I have the primes and like how light weight and all being the same size. I'm looking at getting two S5IIX's as second & third body's for filming and photography. I will then have the S1H rigged out with my ninja and v-mount battery solely for filming. I do get tired of having to pull everything off that camera when ever I have photoshoots.
Great short resume, thanks for doing this! I cannot help but disagree with one point in your review. The 20-60mm kit lens is a sleeper lens . Sure it's not gonna win any awards for the design, BUT if you treat it like a 20mm F3.5 prime and 26mm f4.0 almost-Macro (0.43x magnification + more with an inexpensive extension tube(s))... it's an awesome proposal and way better than many other kit lenses. It is a tremendous value! Pair it with the 85 & 50mm 1,8 primes and you have a super lightweight setup that can get you 95,33% of the shots (taking into account the APS-C crop mode capable S5 series that turns this whole range from 20mm (FF) up to 127,5mm (Crop).
Great review Caleb!💜
Beginner here, why pair it with 50mm if the 20-60mm kit lens can shoot the 50mm shots?
@@HustlHub.Community the prime 50mm 1.8 lens gives you that extra options for very little additional money. It will separate background from the subject much more that the kit lens @50mm due to the shallower depth of field (f-stop 1.8 vs 5.3 on the kit, I believe). Due to that it will also look more ''cinematic'' and the prime 50mm is also a bit better lens in sharpness and detail especially when stopped down a bit, to f2.8 or more. 50mm on full frame, for me, is just about perfect for so many uses that I feel I could shoot a lot of materials just with that focal length, so it feels it's a no brainer investment :-)
From gh5ii which would you suggest... gh6 or s5iix for YT and social creation? Or maybe wait for a new m43 camera with the new af?
this is a great question and i’m actually gonna make a video about it. can’t go wrong either way in my opinion. both great but if you want autofocus then s5iix if not the gh6 is so great
@@CalebHooverlooking forward to that video
The 70-200 f4 is also part of the S PRO series like the f2.8 version.
I love the S primes for gimbal work. Since they are almost similar in size, I don’t have to rebalance when I switch out lenses!
absolutely that’s what i love about them!
From my 2 years experience with S5 (same as S5 II).
16-28 is the true great all around lenses (mostly have it all time , for content gimbal shots).
I have also my 24 F2. (perfect for gimbal shots).
If you want a good 85 mm (lumix 1.8 is great/lightweight if you mostly use for videography ) but the sigma 85 1.4 is better in all way.
I used my sigma 35 & 50 1.4 art lens (CANON ) wich produced really nice images great for videography & photos.
My most unused but still my favourite looking (35 MM T2.1 MEIKE) I've bought it for his character but it's huge and Manual so mostly when i'm trying tosave space for travel its the first one I don't pick. (despite I love his soft character very cinematic looking).
The best things with S5 I II IIX . is theire vintage adaptation. You can pick any inexpensive vintage lenses and truly get out with something special. Since pair with the best stabilized full frame in the business. I end up using some 200 f4 fd or even 300 fd f 4/ (wich I paid 30 € and 50 for the others) And they are tiny so a great way to have a good telephoto on location. (+ had a vintage character perfect for documentary).
So FD 50 mm 1.4( i love the flare it producte) is insane on this one you should guy check it or 28 mm FD 2.8.
For the Canon lens, would I need an adapter?
@@dominiquechenevert2760 Yes obviously , if its sigma ( canon) just find them in l mount. would still be better than buying in ef mount( canon)
Which vintage telephoto lens do you go with ? I would like one for good landscapes with détails without cracking the bank.
@HappyMSI1 i used 200mm f2.8 and 135 3.5 but you wont have crazy details . Ideal for video not for photo
@@HappyMSI1 but from memory I think I bought the 135 3.5 for like 40 euros ( add the fd to L mount adapter . you have a 135 that can save you for less 50 euros
I'm picking up with S5ii X This week. I need a lens to film workouts in my garage. I only have about 10-12 feet of space between the camera and two people on camera. When I had a Canon 70d I used a 10-18 efs wide-angle lens to film. What's a good option that's similar to that for the S5ii X. Also, a lens option for shooting cooking videos in the kitchen? Apparently, I need all kinds of help lol. please post the link with your affiliate info so you can get paid too!!!
Moved from the GH4 to the S5 Mk II with 50mm f/1.8 and 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6 instead of the constant aperture zoom lenses I had with micro Four-Thirds. Things feel similar enough but I've stuck with still photography so far but its only been about two weeks. Thanks for sharing.
I planning to buy which includes 50mm f 1.8. And use for filming short movie and some photographs which one more lens would be perfect.
I have all the primes but the 24mm. The Laowa 90mm 2x macro is reallllly fun and super sharp with virtually no chromatic aberrations. Also just got the sigma 150 - 600 and it is my favourite lens right now. Just has some trouble focusing and at times I can't use the manual focus in AF modes.
nice! sounds like a great setup
Caleb, you said you wouldn’t use the Sigma 16-28 for client work, how do you rate that one to the LUMIX 18mm ?
I find the 20-60 kit lens good, 24mm isn't wide enough.
thanks for the leads.
anyone try the laowa 16mm f/2?
lookin to shoot ~24mm equiv on the s5iix @ 4k60p. small prime/pancake would be ideal.
for shooting lowlight scenes w the camera inside of a car interior
I have the 24-70 f2.8 sigma and the 70-200 f4 from Lumix. I really want a f1.4 prime for portraits. But also doubting to go for a 1.8 lumix prime for better autofocus with my original S5. I notice that my lumix lens has much better video autofocus then the Sigma lens...
I got the S5IIX and would like recommendations on a lens to film weddings
24-70mm f2.8 and 70-200mm for sure
@@CalebHoover thank you if you had to chose only one to take which one would you recommend
Im still using sigma 18-35 1.8, yes it is aps-c but at 35mm covers full frame and gives me that 1.8. And as I shoot lots of 60fps I am shooting aps c anyway, so the good old 18-35 makes sense
totally! still king of lenses!
I have that lens rehoused for PL. Such a great lens with tons of utility.
that lumix 70-200 f4 is S Pro, it has a Red S logo and it says PRO on the lens itself
I am going to buy the s5 ii, but not sure which lens I should go for as a kit lens. What do you think?
1-S5 ii + 20-60 kit lens (£100 more expensive)
2-S5 ii + 50mm 1.8 kit lens
I have no other lenses and not planning to put another £400+ on an additional lens in the near future. (Portrait/ landscape photography)
Where do you buy those lens caps with the labels? Love them!
i got them from lumix but i'm not sure if they sell them somewhere. maybe i should make some cuz i've had lots of peeps ask about them.
@@CalebHoover please do and let me know! Thanks for the reply! Just got a S5iix and have been watching tons of content on your channel!
@@CalebHoover Have been looking for labels for my Prime lens caps and can never find something that looks good.
Would you recommend staying with one brand of lenses? Do you see shifts in color or image when using say Pani and Sigma lenses in the same shoot?
If I were to get ONLY two prime lenses for both video work (documentary) and photo.. what would you suggest?
What would be the best telephoto lens that would be cheap and effective for lumix s52x. Above 200mm
I agree with most of this. The kit lens is by a distance the best I've seen. You could easily shoot very decent looking video with that, I got the 50mm S prime bundled with the camera but sold it immediately because I found it really anodyne and lacking in character.
I have both the Sigma contemporary and they're just outrageously good for the money 24 would be great at the wide end of the medium zoom, but that would probably kill its bigger brother's market and its own light weight. i also have the 70-200 F4 and I like the images but I've having substantial problems with focus hunting, I don't know how common that is?
The Sirui is super interesting. Even more so when it's a set.
Thanks for the video.
You're saying the 20-60 is one of the best kit lens you've seen?
Very Nice Content Man…Please which Sigma Mount is it for Panasonic S5ii ?
As i usually record with light enough, i'm using Lumix 16-35 f4 for video, for events i usually use 24-105 f4 and for ecommerce and portrait Lumix 85mm f1.8... I like also night photography with milky way or full moon so i like 24mm f1.8 and Sigma 100-400
Sir, between sigma 16-28 f.8 and 18-50 f 2.8, Is stretching your budget to go for 16-28 f2.8 worth it over the other?
Hello Caleb.Is it normal with pana 85 mm to hear this rattling sound during autofocusing?
Is the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8 DC DN Lens Good for 4K 60 APS?
and 24-105 f/4?
nice run down dude!
thanks man!
Adding images to sections about the lens would have been great
how about tamron 28-75 f2.8 instead of sigma?
they make l-mount??
Why did you cut from 18mm to 24mm ???? Didn’t focus like canon Sony ??
Panasonic full frame lenses are large and expensive (primes)…the only reason I’m considering Canon R cameras. Though I’d prefer Panasonic for other reasons.
I am a content creator dealing with Lego bricks, which lens would you recommend for overhead shots and shooting arranged sets. I stream 60% of the time.
16-28
for me its the 24-105 f4
nice! love it!
Sigma 24-70 + sigma 35 1.4, sigma 16-28 … waiting for a 70-200 dg dn !
I loooove my Sigma 24-70 it's sharp and sexy :D
So much lens-envy rn.
Gh5/gh6 shooter feeling abandoned after you pushed thr gh6 so hard
got some gh6 stuff coming next week actually and more this fall. 👍
He still makes videos about MFT man…
Mate what the hell are you using all those lenses for are you sure you have enough there??? Teheehhehe