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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2022
- TRYING TO START MY BUDGET DIY FORGED N54.........
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"I've been cranking it off camera" classic
CRANKIN DA HOG
Pretty sure last episode or so he was holding his N54 Rod on camera.
@@MowerModdin HELL YA BORTHER. GOBBLESS
Much love and congratulations from the states! This isn't just the best BMW UA-cam channel, it's the best automotive UA-cam channel. I love that honesty. If something works out or doesn't work, we get to go through all the emotions with you. Keep up the great work.
I really appreciate that man!
never had a doubt in this engine build, well done, excited to see the progress from here
Im glad you didnt have any doubts haha. I did.
Your excitement is contagious! Great video. So glad someone trusts the chinese parts as much as I do. I bought Dickass brakes back in 2016 (when they were REALLY cheap) and I plan to use the china rods and pistons as well eventually. You are definitely one of, if not the best proponent of N54 content anywhere. Well done!
It’s 330am in the US. Excited to see this vid pop up. Send it!
I woke up at 3am in las vegas to see if you posted this yet. Good job man. This is gonna be amazing
Dude!!! That is dedication, thanks for following along. Really appreciate it.
Well done Andrew, beers well deserved last night. Now just got the first 500k's to break the motor in and bed those rings properly, thankfully you didn't have any custom cams or had yours ground as that's a whole different level of nerves breaking them in, especially on a new motor. Drive it hard for the first 500k's, and vary the driving, just don't go redlining it - keep it to maybe 5,500rpm tops. You want as much load on the motor as possible while doing it, but without over revving it.
If the car had a tow bar, a heavily loaded trailer being pulled uphill is best, revs stay constant and, with a decent load on it, really helps bed the motors in. Failing that, the other thing you could do (that would be zero risk for overrevving the engine but still putting it under a constant load) would be to throw it in a boat and go for gold - believe it or not, one of the best ways to break a motor in!
He needs to throw it in a boat and ship it over here to the States. I'll be sure to break it in real nice for him 😁
The rings will be bed after 15 minutes if you do it right! 😅
Thank you as always for the detailed comments Geordie.
Sounds great guys. And "Freigabe" means release. This code is probably generated because the injectors were not plugged in.
Very stoked it runs great. Good luck, Dutch regards, Nico.
Thank you for the translation!!! I had no ideas thats for sure
Hey dude, Dont let a freshly bullt engine idle more then 1 or 2 mins. You need to immediatley go drive it and do the break in procedure or your rings wont set correctly and you wont have good compression. 50 km of 2000-3000 rimp light throttle with engine decels and 3000-4000 with light throttle and then same thing with medium throttle with not getting into it. Then change Oil and filters and do 300km of light and moderate driving.
Thanks for the advice, i really wanted to get some heat in to the cooling system make sure nothing is leaking before buttoning it all backup.
Don't be scared to give a bit of boost quickly. Every time I have run in an engine the old fashioned recommended way it's burned oil. When running in my turbo Nissan I just drove normally and boosted it a bit and years later it still burns no oil. Of course if it all goes wrong I'll delete this comment and deny any knowledge of it. :-)
I love this comment
Im kinda thinking along those lines haha. However probabaly not with this kill tune which is still loaded on the DME. will wind it down to 25psi for the first drive :P
This video makes me want to quit my job and start a UA-cam channel... So pumped for you man, hope it all stays together. 🤞
hahaha, dont jump the gun just yet! UA-cam is freaking amazing, but i wish i knew how to make it make money. Havent worked that out yet. Then again i do stray away from the typical marketing style of content.
@@ZeroTo60Tube It's the journey I'm interested in.
It's great to see what you are doing for the N54 community, can't wait to see it driving!
You've got me convinced to pull the trigger on the 8HP swap for mine as well as maybe something along the lines of what you've done to the motor.
Great job! So happy for you and the rest of the N54 community (which I'm not a part of but just really love your content).
Much appreciated!
So glad to see it started good and no major issues. I can’t wait to see what happens next on this build.
Ahhh man it was such a huge relief.
YES! Pretty nerve shattering but "So far so good" said the man at each floor window as he fell from the high rise building. LOL. Except this is GOING TO WORK!! YES!
Love it!!
love the excitement, i was nervous watching lol congrats man hard work paying off
Mate so happy she’s running good! All of your hard work paying off 👍🏼 once I’m in QLD I need to see this beast in person!
Thanks so much dude! She will be at roll racing once its all sorted for sure.
It's alive!!! 😜
Great work mate, there's literally no other channel putting in the effort you are for the N54 platform. 👌
Hey, thanks man, i freaking love this stuff and being able to learn it all with everyones help is a god send.
Brilliant mate, well done! Could feel the nervousness through the camera! You’ll have to drop the oil after a couple of heat cycles and have a look! Well done though mate 👍🏻
Thanks so much dude. Appreciate your comments and advice along the way.
Wooohoo!!! Its alive!!! Congratulations Andrew!!! Great job!! Thank you for documenting it all on video!!
Thanks for watching! It's a massive learning curve for me and hopefully it helps other people with their builds/setups.
So satisfying going from Sport/Manual and putting into Park 👌
Man, I went through the exact same feelings when I dropped my transmission pan and took out the mechatronic unit to replace the rubber sleeves. I was like "Ok, I did everything by the book. It should work in theory." First startup is always fun LOL. But an 8HP!? Mad scientist levels bro.
Great success. So happy for you that it all went well. Big push on now for first drive.
dude I was so excited when you started it the 2nd time and where testing the trans. So cool to watch this build from the start .Good shit.
Thanks man, it really feels like we are all doing this build together, its so awesome.
Yes Sir we live live. N54 about to start doing even crazier times. Definitely don't sleep on TEAMN54 we Here to Party with the big Boys.
#TEAMN54 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
thanks great finally start hello to Dave after long back
Sounds great! Always hits the nerves on that first start. Sounded like the cams had not settled in with the vanos yet as the system was dry.
She was a bit rough at first, hopefully just air in the fuel lines, but could have been cams. You should see that way i assembled it all. Definitely not by the book thats for sure.
@@ZeroTo60Tube this is how we learn. I have assembled a few after a few too many beers and they ran great.
Just hit play, hugely anticipated episode!
Happy to see its working cant wait for a month from now doing draggy runs and taking it to rolls
Sounds healthy! Good job man.
Not gonna lie man I freaked out at first hearing it on the starter sounded down a hole... must just be how they sound 🤷. First starts are always so nerveracking glad she's running nice and smoothly now im keen to see how she does when you start to wind her up 😊
Same here. It sure sounded like one cylinder had no compression. Glad it's ok.
Thats what i thought, but then i could hear it sort of release pressure, so i am assuming it was the compression stroke slowing it down.... but god knows. It seemed to idle fine even at 500rpm. Next step will be putting some load on it.
@@ZeroTo60Tube lots of various load at different rpm to bed those rings in man lots of engine breaking from high rpm will also be good for it 😁
Huge congrats !! This is awesome bro, well done !!
DO WE HAVE PADDLES? WE DO *surprise pikachu face* 😂🤣🤣 good job mate
I was honestly expecting to have to code or set the paddles up in the lamik controller
Stoked to see it crank over. Hats off to you mate
Nice work, Andrew! No weird sounds, phew. 😀 Now don’t overthink the bed-in process, all you’re doing is getting the rings to seal, that’s it. And because you didn’t hone/bore the cylinders, it should really only take 100kms, if that. The usual varying rpm putting some mild load on the engine and then backing off a bit is all that’s required. Skids incoming!!!
Thats what im thinking!
I'm more excited than I thought I'd be, to hear that thing start up. Warms my heart that YOUR N54 is running smooth. This gives me the warm and fuzzies for the thought of doing one myself. . .
The click-"Click" video was dirty, but at least it wasn't something to make a person think it was bad. Heh heh, forgiven!
haha, thanks for following along and i will keep click bait to a minimum, i promise.
Well happy for you. Can’t wait to see it on the road.
Was really hyped to see it go into gear and the wheels turning 🔥
Jeeeees Andrew you really are cautious, I literally just filled oil in and primed coolant and she started right up supper smooth, poor starter motor 😂😂 by the way it sounds perfect let it run man👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Very cautious, so much time in to this thing, i didnt want to ruin it with a silly mistake.
sounds mint! well done
I always get a transmission symbol when I crank the engine with a low battery.
I also recently had a leak from my dps to the mid pipes and I was getting O2 codes and causing me all sorts of issues.
Hopefully it’s just the dtc being connected, it was my first thought as soon as you said it wasn’t plugged in! Sounds awesome!
Yeah i had the switch out when i was playing with the Canbus, need to actually rewire the screen, its put in, in a funny way.
You earned this! Congrats so stoked for you mate
Thanks man!!! Can't wait to put it on some load and see how things are then
Also god we spend too much money on our toys, Tens of thousands are numbers we never think we would hit but for that joy and the short time we have on this earth, its worth it! LOVE IT!
Excellent mate the excitement in your voice .... Me next please
Deal!
Well done. Engine sounds good and a working transmission....excellent
Thanks dude! Slowly getting there.
You must be really proud of your achievements on this. Amazing job. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Getting there. This was a huge relief, just need to see what the oil looks like after its been run around for a little while.
Let’s here some revs with the exhaust on🔥🔥 I love that feeling of achievement, you’re a beast
Thanks man! Will get the car put back together over the next day or so. I probably wont run it again until im ready to drive it and bed the rings in a little.
Thank you soo much for your videos!
You are so welcome!
So good. You'll look back on this fondly.
I hope so, i really hope so.
Not sure if it applies with this setup but in my f30 the transmission didn’t exactly work all that great while it was in the air like the sport and drive and the transmission would actually put itself into park
Interestingly the DCT does what you have described. The OEM trans has a lot of safeties built in. I think this one was the car not being able to get wheel speed up due to traction control.
beautiful great job so far
Totally looking forward to first drive vid!
Good luck!
Huge milestones, really exciting to see!!
HUGE for me, i did so many things i thought would work, but are not the right way to do BMW engines, so glad it ran smooth and had oil pressure.
This is simply amazing, well done 👍
So happy for you man. Keep it up!
Thanks dude!!!
congrats on getting it started!
That is awesome. Only found you guys recently and have been watching this latest build. Engine sounds super smooth 👍💪
Going to get into the engine on my ISF and do something new too with port and polishing the intake.
Can’t wait to see the next episode 😀😀 and hope to bump into you at QR or Willowbank or somewhere one day. 🤣😂
You mean the cylinder head? I wouldn’t mess with the intake manifold on a Lexus.
Thanks for following along! Big fan of the ISFs, in standard form they are a lot of fun to thrash on.
@@TML34 I am removing the inlet manifold and cleaning up the inside. The ISF inlet has a lot of casting flash etc. Not doing a huge change, just cleaning the runners. Worth about 10-13 hp at the wheels. Many have done this simple mod.
Great succes! Well done 👍
Thanks so much man! It’s been a journey.
I’ve had issues in manual mode in selector mode 1 & 2 as they are used by the tcu for adaptive learning. Change to mode 7 for example and test manual shifting.
Ahhhh, always appreciate your insight!
Well done! Can't wait to see it driving
me too!!! hopefully have the trans bracket very soon.
Sounds good 🔥
How you can figure this stuff out is beyond me! Good stuff.
I honestly dont know how either, i just read and question everything until i understand it.
Gratz bro... now... custom odometer with realdash... cause I want one 😭-🤣🤣🤣
Congrats! You sir have a built engine n54. Pretty damn cool man.
Thanks Andrew, hopefully she is all good under load too! Pretty exciting times.
Ok so on a 19t build would it be easier and better & safer to run on 25lbs of boost?
Here’s the mods to I would run:
Mhd, Jb4 g5, bms pi controller
Xhp stage 3 flash v3 tune
G-plus Oil cooler
Vrsf 7.5 intercooler
Catless down pipes
Inlets & outlets
Bms charge pipe
Elder coils w/ precision race works ignition kit
2step colder plugs
Index 12 injectors
bmp pi kit 750cc,
stage 3 bucketed dual 450 walbro pumps,
Motiv flex fuel kit & content ethanol sensor
Spool performance Wireless Ethanol Analyzer Kit with port injection add on “just the lines from the kit”
25psi with e60 fuel and around 10deg of timing will be fairly "safe". Pump fuel back it down to 22psi and less timing.
Update on parts!!!!!! “ also seen your comment do you know any good tunes to run also tuners I’m in the U.S.
Ok so on a 19t build would it be easier and better & safer to run on 25lbs of boost?
Here’s the mods to I would run:
Mhd,& Jb4 g5 tuners w/ anti lag & 2 step, bms jb4 pi controller
Xhp stage 3 flash v3 tune
G-plus Oil cooler
Vrsf 7.5 intercooler
Catless down pipes
Inlets & outlets
Bms charge pipe
Elder coils w/ precision raceworks ignition kit
2step colder plugs
Index 12 injectors
bmp pi kit 750cc Bosch injectors
Precision raceworks drop in stage 3 bucketed dual 450 walbro pumps,
Motiv flex fuel kit & content ethanol sensor
Fuel-It! BMW E-Chassis Fuel Line upgrade and Ethanol Sensor kit
Nice Job!! Sounds healthy!
Congrats ! So far so good !
Thanks man! Appreciate your support and the comments.
Love the channel. I have a question, what’s the power limit of the stock suspension? Stock diff, subframes, etc. (E92 335 N54)
It really depends. A good condition stock subframe, suspension and diff (if welded) will do a 9 1/4 mile. Upgrading this stuff, is mainly for personal preference and better handling. Which is relevant at stock power levels.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks for the response man I really appreciate it. Love the N54 platform and everything you’re doing with it. Mine is bone stock but I’m looking at single turbo kits. Definitely thinking I’ll go that route.
Wow good job bro 😎
Great to see you have it running Andrew.
First hurdle is done! woot woot
@@ZeroTo60Tube Can't wait to see how the 8hp goes once you have run in the engine. The built engine should improve the reliability but the 8hp should improve your times. How are you going to run in the engine. A controlled run in on a dyno for an hour would speed up the process.
@@kencooper8636 To be honest im not too sure about the run in. I think if the box just works, i will try to load it up a bit, run in a higher gear than needed that sort of thing, but i dont intend on doing a silly amount of k's for the run in.
Bloody good job!
Thanks man, talk about nerves.... haha
Well you've got a built motor. A trans that can handle 750ft lbs. Let's see her do the dance !
Apparently you need to run them in or something......
@@ZeroTo60Tube I just shipped an a90 torque converter to Poland, the converter and shipping was $500 usd total. Ill have the a90 converter bolted to the crank and flex plate this week and I'll get the measurements for the spacer if any. The way the a90 converter looks it may actually be the same overall length as the 8hp75 converter if anything a 15mm spacer will take up the 2mm for the washers and be spot on. I just need to confirm this and I'll send you an adapter ring when I get them done so you can get a lighter converter with the right lockup
@@ZeroTo60Tube haha my mechanic told me to drive it aggressively at around 70-80% so it can bed in properly for how its gonna be driven but not 100% everyone has their own opinions on this aswell tho like everything else :D
Great job.
thanks man!!!! so stoked it sounded smooth
congrats man
Have you or any one else seen the new CTS stage 2 turbos and plan on purchasing? Would you recommend? Look really cheap ($1800 for 2+) and CTS sounds slightly better than eBay even if they are still possibly Chinese made.
I have seen them, I would imagine they will be the same as viv. However until someone takes them apart we will never know.
If budget is a problem, I’d give them a go over other China offerings. Just see how they go
@@ZeroTo60Tube appreciate the response man! I guess only time will tell as to how they really hold up, hoping to see some people throw those on before I eventually do a budget build lol
Congrats! Hopefully less nerves now and keep up the great work!
Yeah im still concerned about the first oil change, but hearing it fire on all cylinders smoothly was a big relief.
Congrats man
Thanks dude!
Just think of all the spare time you'd have if you were interested in B58s. 🤷♂️😂😂
LOL, don't get me wrong, i would find the breaking point of those pretty quick and have the same predicaments. I really want to build a b58 with a G42-1200 single on it.
Looking forward to the first drive!
You and me both!
This was intense ❤️
Sure was........
Epic. That idle sounds so healthy, congrats man, really good job. Damn now i want a zf 8hp into my n52 e92 330i😂 would be an ultimate daily
Zf8hp45 I'd guess will be pnp with can-tcu
Good job 👍🏻
Thanks 😁
Engine sounds so smooth :)
Well done mate 👏
Thanks so much!
Nice one. All the best.
Thank you! Cheers!
She sounds mint! Awesome work 😁
Thanks steve!!! Looking forward to seeing what its like under some load.
At 15:20 you said with the Lamik you don’t actually have a park can you elaborate a little please
The park lock on a 8HP is electronic, it has its own solenoid to lock the trans in park. The lamik controller doesn't connect to that solenoid. So you need to think of it like a manual trans and make sure your handbrake is good. You could possibly connect a cable, the trans does have an external lever to manually override the park lock when the car is crashed etc. That said i never like the feel of pulling a trans out of park lock when it loaded up.
I have to ask, why this transmission? Wouldn’t the dtc be better or a manual? Or is it just for fun and exploration?
The DTC is really nice once you are moving, but they struggle getting you off the line. I have the DCT in the e92 and really like it, but want to see first hand how a tuned aftermarket controlled ZF8 will go.
@@ZeroTo60Tube that makes sense, thanks for the response and I hope it meets your expectations!!!
Wooohooo! Nicely done sir!
Thank you very much!!
Send it. She be right what could go wrong 👍
"what could go wrong" famous last words.
Oil pressure gauge? Will you do a comp check or just keep being amazed?
I can generally pick up in the idle sound if these things have compression issues. So if it sounds find and give me no reason to do a comp check i wont. I really want an oil pressure gauge on it. I have order some fittings, but will worry about that later.
@@ZeroTo60Tube oil pressure gauge would be a must I wouldn't of tried starting a car without one, maybe your balls are bigger lol should have oil gauges on most of the rides
@@davidstevenson1211 I figured it has an oil pressure switch, so as long as its at a minimum level we should be sweet. But thinking more so about revving it a bit harder than it should rev and seeing what the oil pressure does at the extreme end of use, might be helpful
awesome 👌
The excitement when you realised you had paddles 😂
I was legit expecting some extra settings to be done or something
@@ZeroTo60Tube I was quite surprised as well actually. Very impressed with your work so far my man
Planning to do a compression test to document before loading it up?
Nahhhhh, i am at the point where i can hear if they have compression issues just based on the idle sound. if it sounds fine i will leave it. Funny idle, i will do a comp test then.
@@ZeroTo60Tube haha... Good point. Nice progress with the build! Keep it up! Can't wait to see you guys run it at the track.
Lost two motors to spun hubs after port VIV V4 hub killer 😫 30psi is dangerous on stock block 😫
Understanding the load the valve train, oil pump, vac pump and hpfp puts on the hub. Got any ideas why they spun in your two cases? Were the cars auto, man or dct?
@@ZeroTo60Tube common issue with high powered n54s ad S55s as well ,as soon as you go over that 600wtq you are at risk ,the two piece crank hub is another weak point on our motors 😩
@@n54addictmotorsports I only see it on N54s where the crank hubs have been changed or replaced even guys using the latest friction discs/hub part numbers still have them slip. I have never spoken to anyone personally or through the channel who has had a N54 one slip on an original factory fitted crank hub. Was talking to a (alleged) mechanic who said he re-timed "heaps" of n54s over the years (stock ones) and that it is a common problem and that im an idiot, but when asking for more information he went a bit soft, which really made him look like he was just typing with out thinking, and what he classed as "a lot" was actually a single example on a car he has no history on (i think the term is keyboard warrior). But my understanding the lack of valvetronic and lighter load on the timing/oil chains in general means the N54s dont or shouldnt slip under normal use-age, regardless of power levels. I speak to a lot of tuned owners, the real OGs on the platform, not muppets on social media pushing products, but guys that have proven cars. Even our single was running at 35psi being revved to 8000rpm for over 3 years with no crank hub slips. I get a money shift causing it, but don't see it as a common issue on any factory fitted hub. That said, generally the N54s dont get revved that hard and maybe an N54 DCT being revved to 7500 like the N55/S55 will mean we see them becoming an issue more often. I feel like its a fast RPM change that will cause a slip. Not a power level, but admittedly its the high power cars that are being revved to 8000rpm and thrashed where its more likely a user error will put the engine through an event where it goes from 7500rpm to 2500rpm instantly.
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah two automatic cars in the same week ,as soon as we turned them up they went to go do a log a bye bye 😔
🤣🤣🤣🤣thanks for the content
yesss bro!!!
hey @zeroto60 what oil cooler lines and cooler are u using on this car with the red hoses??? curious thanks dude
This car has a china version of the Dinan oil cooler kit
@@ZeroTo60Tube do u like it or do u regret it....would u recommend it i should say🤷🏽♂️😉 i have the stock one but the lines need to be replaced and dont know what to upgrade to
@@jakestella2678 i like it, however some of the china fittings can be iffy. Make sure you lube the threads on any fittings
@@ZeroTo60Tube just not ATF 🤔😉👍👌🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂