£10,000 Luxury Car Challenge!
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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There ain't many auto channels where I go "Oh good a car vertical ad read" except here where you are pushing to young families... suddenly it's more of an issue than me buying a shitbox for myself!
I’m not an Audi fan but the s8 in ronin has always appealed
We’ve reviewed a really nice A8, I can’t get the idea of an avant Audi out of my head though! 😅
@@dadcars I’ll confess I’ve always been more of bmw wagon fan had a 330d years black with red leather debadged it was awesome. The s class also appeals
Bloody love that film!
Had an S8 before for 10k ish, brill v10 but not cheap when going wrong as many others dismissed already
S8 seam very rare
Really glad to see CarVertical sponsoring your channel! Way to go Ben, on the way to the £100k dadcar! 🥳
Thank you my man! 👏😊
Always happy to sit down and watch a Dadcars video after work. I really hope your channel blows up soon because you really do deserve it!!
Ah thanks man!! 🙌😅
@@dadcarsAlso, another suggestion for a Dad car. Why not an e38 740i or something similar to that?
JayEmm recommending a 159 has made my day. I had a ti sportwagon which even though it only had a 2.0 diesel engine was a hoot to drive. I did post a photo of mine on your Facebook page ages ago.
Great looking cars 👌😮💨
A Bentley would allow comparison with the original Aston Dad Car and compare the original James Bond car with the current one. Plus you could do Top Gear tests to test how smooth the ride is by seeing if water spills, test the sound inside and out etc.
You are performing a community service with this channel showing the world the fallacy of the SUV as a family car, the roads will be safer and more visually appealing with less SUVs and more interesting cars.
Ah man I love this comment 🙌 some great ideas there too!
The 159 3.2 is a 4WD rather than FWD, so that might make it appeal to Ben a bit more, but yeah, modern Alfa's promise the world and deliver a Fiat chassis... That 300C looks so unashamedly American, I kind of wanted it...
Two I'm surprised didn't get a mention; the S5, which is a 2+2 with that 4.2l V8 and the BMW 645/650i. £10k will get you very nice, well kept examples of either, although they bottom out below £5k, so maybe candidates for that price point (perhaps not recommended as they'll likely be money-sinks).
The BMW has an engine with a few flaws. It won't nuke itself, but they are expensive, labour intense fixes (Deferred/corner-cut maintenance are the main culprits), although my 650i is a well-kept example and has been an absolute joy.
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Thanks man! Yeah I got sidetracked away from the luxury choices 🙈 can’t help it 😅
The 159 3.2 was available both as FWD and "Q4" - 4WD. Shame it no longer had the Busso engine but had to do with a GM V6
Bentley, go for it. If you skip this one now, for the next swap who knows what you will find. Might not be that classy.
Flying spur is top of my list right now! But I’m open to anything 🤙
I get the appeal, but if we want to save a bit of money with this car, Bentley is the wrong way to go. If the budget was 25k, a 15k Bentley would be a great option.
good to see JayEmm agrees with me on the Alfa 159....
but E63 or E55 estate would be another shout
10:24 - Why does this bit sound familiar to me all of the sudden 😂😂
Fantastic video as always, Ben!
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That post facelift jaguar, you could’ve bought it for less than £10,000.00 with negotiation.
As a fan of all things Japanese for a 10k luxury car it's got to be a Lexus LS rear wheel drive.
Great shout! I missed so many options!
They arent very often thought of. You need more japanese car content ;) @dadcars
Ls600h is tempting but what every review doesn’t cover is how shyte they might be to drive on twisties? I hated the old ls400, great engine but shocking understeer and horrendous auto, presume better with later models BUT not sporty like a jaaaaaaaag
@@kieranjohnson869 lexus GS 350 look nice
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I've got a good trade down for this, a BMW 650i or even a 630i. Had the 630i 6 years now (08 M6 facelift), got it when I was 21 for travelling from the southwest of England to north germany for work as an upgrade from my 116i. Cheap to insure (under £500 quid always even today still paying £430), fast with 272hp and 1700kg, not bad MPG (averaged 17-19mpg in Germany because autobahn) and nowadays I get a more modest 27mpg in the UK. Paid £8.5k for it and it's worth about £4k now, no intention on selling it. Never had a major issue, Bi yearly big service, 110k miles now. Biggest spends were new radiator, brakes and discs.
The Alfa 159 3.2 V6 was mostly 4wd.
And what you want in a 159 is a 3.2, 4wd, Manual, TI.
TI is the sportier trim level, a bit more sporty bodykit, bigger wheels, sports seats, lower suspension.
Audi S6 & S8 with the V10 should be available for under 10 000.
But not sure about the condition.
And Mercedes CL500 should be easy to find.
Good luck with finding your next car.
There is a silver S63L on Autotrader for sub 10 with 122,000 miles on her. Interesting
That Quattroporte ending AEG has been around for ages, at least 18 months. It popped up for sale with Car & Classic as an auction, then it was featured in their magazine and didnt sell, then it didnt sell as a classified. Started off at about £15k i think. Oil leak reported on last MOT and i think i recall correctly that the paperwork suggested very "reactive" ownership. Seems like one to avoid. A gen 1 QP5 could easily be had sub 10k tho. 10k would get you a really good one in fact! But you've done maserati i appreciate
Yeah sadly a QP would be my pick or the bunch of I’m honest 😅
Lots of great cars in that price range for sure, for something a bit left field but rare and super under the radar, VW Passat R36 preferably in estate form for that cavernous boot! Yes its not the most sporty to drive for sure, heavy and only comes with the DSG 6 speed but with a 3.6 VR6 with just shy of 300bhp making a fantastic sound track, surely worth a look? I'm not biased or anything................
Best Bang for your buck would be a Lexus LS or Toyota Century if you fancy a V12
Id love to try a v12 century 😮💨👌
@@dadcars there’s one on the FB marketplace for £13k but I’m sure he’d accept less
In the Alfa 159 they did not built the Busso V6 anymore (the one with the chromed intakes you see in GTV, 155, 156, 147, 166 etc.), rather a General Motors sourced V6 with similar displacement. It is more advanced and efficient, but less rev-hungry and more weighty, so Alfisti definitely prefer the italian built Busso .
Was just looking at an AUDI s4 with the v8 4.2 engine for £5k, they seem such a great value!!! Love the idea of a Bentley but the maintenance costs must be prohibitive. Amazing video !!
My mate ran an '06 Quattroporte for a couple of years until recently. I thought he was mad but apart from it eating rear tyres and having to replace the brakes he didn't really have any problems.
It’s all about getting one that’s been looked after properly and had the money spent
BMW 550i (E60), understated beast.
I’d love to try one
Bentley flying spur would be mad. Looks classy. Keep up the good work.
Thanks man 🙌
That SRT8 CC Estate uuuuuu. As a project car perfect:0
Hemi 👌😮💨
@@dadcars Exactly 6.1 goodness :D
I've been hankering after a Bentley Continental for a while and remain extremely tempted, especially as you say there are examples around at good prices at the moment. My wife has now agreed that I should pursue this quest so I hope you and I will soon be proud owners of a Bentley...I think the time is right and this video is more grist to the mill that we should follow our dreams.
Be cautious when buying but if you can comfortably afford it.. I say make the memories 🙌😊
Go for the Bentley. Don't let the opportunity pass by you as prices may rise again ! Especially after you have highlighted the low prices in your video!! 😅
Keep up the great work for all us dads !
👏👏👏 I will try! Just need to find one!
Congrats on the car vertical partnership! I can’t believe you can get a granturismo for that money. Also, my daughter loves her dadcars hoody!
Thanks man, that’s awesome!! My wife stitched the “making memories” tags on by hand 🥰
You can get a Crome extension that shows you what prices the car has been listed at so you can see how much it has went down
When it comes the Benzes, I have been looking at a few AMGs recently and they offer really good value. Having looked at my options, the 5.4l supercharged M113 coupled with the 5gTronic is the combo that seems to be less hassle than the 63 AMGs that replaced it. Also quite a few C219 CLS 55 are on the market with cream interiors right now.
Bentley Flying Spur! They tempt me daily 😂 I think it would lead to much better content than an M3 or RS6 that everyone has tons of content for.
Just my 2 cents from Canada 🇨🇦
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A dad of 2 myself, I have a e60 530i as a family everyday and a e46 330i convertible as a weekend toy, a Bentley would be the best of both, speed and comfort. DEFFO LOOK AT A BENTLEY!
No one should get an old German if you aren’t willing to do some work yourself on them. A Bentley would be the perfect project! GET A BENTLEY
😅🙌 I’m glad people like the idea of it!
Always preferred the CLS 55 with the supercharger, awesome engine and probably cheaper than a 63, maybe doesn’t sound as good, but is close.
Or a VW Phaeton with the W12
Flying spur very tempting thou.
I've currently got a 2011 XF 5l v8 - not the R, but just the 'standard' non-supercharged. Still 380 bhp ish, loads of fun, and no supercharger to worry about. S/c is cool, but much cheaper without!
That blue XFR has had the pulleys done and the exhaust swapped, so it's pushing nearly 600bhp. Not bad for about two thirds of what my wife just spent on a 1.5 golf...
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You can get a s6 or s8 within budget you still get a v10
Yes… S6 avant is a rare car but bargains!
Hi Ben.
I loved the video.
I would go with that black Audi.
Thanks Frank! Glad you enjoyed it 🤙
@@dadcars Your welcome Ben.
These cars arent really bargains are they? even a small issue could cost you 20-30% of the purchase price. They are exciting gambles that you buy accepting that one failure could leave you with a spares or repairs worth half what you paid. With that in mind, Bentley all the way. Id still go R36 Passat for a semi sensible choice 👍
even if worse case was to happen like you say and it left you with spares or repairs for half the price… you’ve only lost 5k 🤷♂️ most of the cars I love and want to own can easily throw you a 5k bill, at least with a bargain 10k car like these, there is a limit to how much you could lose 😉
might be a shot in the dark but for £10k you could get something like a Nissan Cedric or a Toyota Crown Althete etc. one of those big V6 Japanese Luxobarges.
Yep! Or a stagea?! 🙌
I would say the Audi A7 2014-2017 would be a good sub 10k luxury car. Great power mixed with a sporty body, good mpg and a great interior. A perfect all rounder
Lambo V10 engined Audi S8 is in budget providing nothing breaks 😄
A v10 is tempting! 😅
I have an old "nicotine-stained" E430, lovely V8 though!
I think the pre-facelift XF looks much nicer, it looks muscular but less aggressive.
Having owned a 159 2.4 and a Brera-definitely wait until sub £5k for the Alfa.
They are fabulous cars but prices are tanking and you can pretty much have your pick of the lot for less than £4K! Hold steady and BUY AN XJ
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Hi Ben it was 2002 and I had at my disposal a brand new Bentley arnarge 6.75 litre state silver over Westminster blue .the car plus options was £167,000 pounds. Its was as regal as it was majestic to drive .you felt a cut of shorts when you drove it . I don't think I've ever driven something that felt as special as the Bentley. Just remember if at 15 k that's a cheap car ,only thing is when it needs work and it will its still a hand built fully bespoke car .and so will cost a small penny to fix .plus the road tax may now be eye watering. But saying that I would have another in a heart beat 🇬🇧👍
Yeah I can imagine them being painful things to run and maintain as a daily in 2024… maybe when I trade back up again? 😅
Hi been I was in the scrap yard last week and someone dropped of a 1985 Bentley in Westminster blue .I will send you the before and after photos such a shame.
Bentley would be the best bet and was my first thought when I saw the video title.
Aside from that, you could look at cars that are not the top spec such as the 5 series 550i 4.4 v8 or the S6 or S8 Audi.
It’s good to hear people agree the Bentley is the sensible bet 🤙😅
Jag S Type listing passes my 'nice house' test!
I alway liked the lexus gs f. But it might be way to expensive. New subscriber here.
Welcome!! 😊🤙
What about a Audi A8 with the 4.2 TDI engine
That first gen CLS63 😍 is a winner for me, but yeah I know it's not the best choice here
Video is some much more concise and to the point which is good - much easier to stay engaged - well done
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First video I've seen of yours. A great channel. Subscribed.
Welcome!! Glad you found us
Chrysler is just a standard, run of the mill commuter brand, no better then Chevrolet or Ford. Granted the 300 is a properly cool car, especially the estate, which we didn't get here in NA.
Any Bentley will be in a different league in every way, several times removed. That said, I think at this price point, they're a bit of a bridge too far. That Arnage is amazing though!
I love the idea of an S-Type, it should be far more economical then a Bentley while still being really neat, an E63 or A/S8 would be sweet as well!
Really looking forward to seeing what you end up with, love the Avantime as well!
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Lexus LS would be my choice, generally pretty reliable if you miss the ones that had issues
And Bentley level spec for less with be reliable
I actually like the green wrapped Bentley 😂🫣 beats golfing OAP nicotine beige for me 😅
😂🙌 life would be boring if we all liked the same thing! 👏
I don’t even want to try and guess what your next car will be cause almost all of them will suit as a worthy Dadcar! Actually turn it on its head and say when you played this back to your little pickles which one got them more excited? That would be my pick cause they would be creating happy memories!!
Ah thanks man!! 🙌 yeah I should have asked their opinion at the end! It’ll just be whatever good car comes up for a great price :)
I know it's not a V8, but do consider the Audi S4/S5 B8 generation with the 3 liter supercharged engine - it sounds angrier than a V8, and you get a touch of supercharger whine. You might even find one in your beloved Dadcar blue. The pre-facelifts may be available with a manual gearbox - but if going for an automatic, the facelifted ones should be a lot more reliable.
Mazda RX8, 4 door 2+2. But I bet you aren't brave enough to go for that one 😂
Maybe I’ll be extra brave and get one at 5k trading down step 😉
@@dadcarsdon’t do it Ben, it’s a trap.
@@dadcars don't worry any money you put into it can be made up with all the content you can make on repairing and fixing it
I can't see an RX-8 costing more then a Bentley tbh.
Been meaning to bring my Rx8 out to Ben for few months now,
Need to make it happen
Agree with valentine!! Bentley all day long my friend!!!
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Depends if you want sane or crazy. Sane says S Class - preferably a W220/W221 S63 AMG. (I own a 2010S63 with the 6.2.... its GLORIOUS). Crazy.... oh that big Bentley ticks all the boxes.
F11 530/535d, and never look back.
I really want to film an F11 530d if anyone has one!! Want to make a video showing how much better it is than my wife’s X5
@@dadcars I used to have an LCI 530d F11 M-Sport. Great car. I think what you would want is a 550i though
I have a stage 2 335d F30, it's a proper weapon and also very comfortable in comfort mode
I replaced my TVR when my little girl arrived with a F31 330d M Sport with all the bits on it. It's a brilliant thing, pretty much perfect. Fast, handles, comfy, fairly cheap to run. Doesn't stop me constantly looking at exactly this type of what if scenario though. Really looking forward to seeing which way you go. Quattroporte is my bravepill car. May be an CLS Shooting Brake AMG 55...
I wouldn't touch a V6 159/Brera though. Pretty things they are, but from plenty of experience in them they are heavy, dull, and out classed. Its a GM V6 not a Busso, sounds rubbish, drinks, and slow, so whats the point? £5k GT Coupe V6 though, they're on my AT saved search list. 😂
Great stuff!
The Flying Spur is incredible. Considered one a few times but the potential repair bills on them can make M5 & RS6 bills look like peanuts. You'd need a whole bottle of brave pills for that. You could get nine tenths of the comfort and about two tenths of the risk with a Lexus LS600H. Although sub 10k may only get you into a ratty example. Watch Jayemms video on the LS600H...
Yeah I need to try a ls600
If you want a crazy motor, why not a Volkswagen Phaeton W12? Or an Audi a8 W12?
My little ones enjoyed the electric headrests on the s500
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Dogs lipstick Red. I snorted Tea out of my nose and laughed so heartily
😂 I’m glad someone enjoyed that one 👏
Audi S6 c6 is a very good choice.
You have given away your postcode at 12:23
Thats a random postcode 😅 I made this mistake last year and had to edit around it 😅
As others have said, that ain't no Busso! Its a GM 3.2 and beware timing chain issues!
For me, the XFR represents excellent value, the S type R would be rather exclusive and as a Merc V8 boy now, they are exceptional.
We've both been Maserati owners and loved them, but as you say, potential large bills, especially on cheaper gran turismos!
Yeah not sure how I missed that 😅
@dadcars a certain Autoalex did too 😆
The 159 is GORGEOUS though.
You're going to have it 6 months, what can realistically go wrong?! 🤣 (especially if you get a pdi or similar....)
Give me a B
Give me a E
Give me a N
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You know where that's heading lol
Sensible money goes on the Jag or Merc. If you go for the 6.2, check out legitstreetcars or spr Stockport vids for common M156 issues.
The V6 in the 159 is not a Busso V6, its from GM but Alfa Romeo did modify it slightly and it does sound better than the standard GM version.
I've just bought a Maserati Quattroporte 4.2 v8 and I LOVE IT. I feel like a gangster and I get amazing comments about it every time I take it out
Alfa giulia 2.2 TD, beautiful car with an epic interior! All for 10k
I’d look at a Jag XJR, number27 had one recently, lovely car, aligns well with your tastes I think.
Yeah sadly he’s sold his already!
Not much of a luxury car, but m135i would be a good choice aswell, and I feel like you’d love it
If you do go for the 3.2 159/brera, just watch out for the engine. They’re not a busso sadly, they’re a GM lump with Alfa heads and suffer badly from chain stretch unfortunately. Personally for that money I’d be looking for a 3.2 of the previous generation for that money (147, 156, GT)
Yeah I feel like my first Alfa should have the busso
@@dadcars just can’t beat them, but those 159s and breras do definitely sound like an Alfa, they have fantastic induction noise specifically, but they’re just not as good as the 147s etc dynamically
I'd just buy that blue XFR if i were you.
Tasty car for the money isn’t it!
@@dadcars Yeah it certainly looks it at face value. I've been itching for one for ages and now the prices seem great! Just the potentially higher maintenance bills that are holding me back.
Re the Audi, what about the C6 S6? Not as fast as the RS6 but they all tended to come very highly specced and come with an NA V10. I seem to recall they're well below 10k these days.
Yep great shout
Theres a xj supersport for 10K for sale atm
Thanks for the heads up!!
Audi S8 deffo up there for luxury 10K or under 🔥
Toyota aristo basically a Lexus gs300 with the 2jz twin turbo. There's 2 on eBay but it's worth looking around to find the right one
Your enthusiasm and passion for cars is enough for me to subscribe.
What is a sensible car to buy for 10k but fun as well?
530 BMW in my opinion would be a great family vehicle, but give you some fun when needed. With sensible in mind.
What you thinking?
Welcome to the channel! 🙌 A6 avant is a amazing, sensible car :)
@@Lukey-jy4ez I have the 525d and X5 E70. Both are ok but I don’t know what to replace them with? E70 is practical and the 4.0d version and 525d is fun but not practical. I need to downsize to one car . I have 10-12k in them both.
@@eddy45686 I think the X5 is hard to beat in terms of practicality.
A nice big engine 5 series estate could offer the best of both worlds.
I have a Mercedes C300 estate, which is fun-ish, but a bit too small for all the family and the dog. We also have a Discovery, which is practical, but not much fun.
@@Lukey-jy4ez yes unfortunately fun car always a practical car. So end up running 2 cars to compromise.
Folding down seats in bmw very rare in saloons and estate are ok but not great side profile.
“Stacks and stacks of history, so it’s incredibly reliable”. Does that make sense?
Not when you misquote what I said
@@dadcars maintenance, routine maintenance probably does point to reliability. A stack of receipts for unexpected repairs and parts probably less so. Some might say, especially with a Maserati. They dont appear to be a great deal second hand without good reason - tempting as they are as a £10k supercar. Brave move…. And I think I’ve quoted (some of) your exact words.
That 159 you looked at on auto trader was 4x drive mate
Jaguar XJR x350 or x358. Already talked to you on insta about the x351 but supposedly the 350 and 358 are fairly mechanically reliable and that supercharger whine is 🤯
You can easily buy a Classic real Bentley for 10K. Just get a Bentley Turbo or even an older Arnage. But be aware that even on these older Bentleys, the parts costs are pretty steep, and they can require a lot of maintenence, with high labour costs for servicing. Your best bet would be to buy from a Bentley specialist garage that will have looked it over and stand behind it.
Yeah I’ve discounted them as my primary DadCar is my daily, I don’t do many miles but I need some reliability… and I’m guessing a 90s Bentley for 10k it would require some TLC from
@@dadcars Honestly, if it's well sorted and serviced, with a good history, than it's no less reliable than an Aston or Masarati--let alone a disaster like an E60 M5. That's why I recommend buying one from a specialist, so that ii's already got the TLC that it needs. But, no question that a poor example would be a disaster, so buying privately would be risky.
The Green-label Arnages are especially cheap. These had the BMW 12 in them. It's a fine engine, but everyone felt that the 6.75 better suited the car, and they fell out of favour very quickly. So they're actually quite a bargain.
@@geoffk777I love the idea of a cheap Bentley, but I can't help feeling that a S-Type or maybe some of the AMG's are less likely to be ruinously expensive at this price point.
@@AmosDohms On the face of it, you would think so, but actually, the Bentleys can be a safer choice. All S-Classes from the 2000's onward have lots of specialized computers and electronics which frequently fail. These are only available from Mercedes and ruinously expensive to replace. A car with a perfect body and mechanicals might be effectively totalled by the electronic issues. Mercedes are also built to very tight tolerences and are insistent on maintaining them. By contrast, Bentleys are hand-built in a much looser and more tolerant way, and are basically mechanical, with few electronics to fail. I'd feel much safer with a Bentley than an S-Class (or an A8 or post-2000 7-Series).
The 159 3.2 isn’t a busso engine it’s a GM engine
My bad 🙌
Wonder if you could find a high-mileage F11 550i Touring?
If you find one send me a link on insta 😅
We Kiwis love our Subarus. No V8s, but a Legacy sedan or wagon 3.6R or Outback 3.6R around the 2014-15 you might really enjoy and they would suit a dad big time. Sweet engine. Likes a drink but Kiwis understand that, and even admire it. No idea how much they are in the UK though, or if you even get them? But nicely priced here in NZ. Ain't no Bentley though!! :)
Brilliant channel
Just like me bald beard and down to earth 😂
Keep it going mate.
Bald bearded Petrolhead dads unite! 🙌😅
Bentley all day everyday
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My Brother (who has had Yanks since 1979 ) has a C6 Chrysler Hemi (Chipped) & goes to Spain twice a year in it ,he says it’s one of the best cars he’s had! Currently has that:1985 trans-am & just bought a 2016 Dodge Challenger…….😀
I'm sure Ash at Exotic & Supercar might know of something kicking about ;)
New sub, loving your enthusiasm and content....
Welcome!! Glad you found us :)
I had 10k ish and wanted a luxury car, I ended up buying a facelift XFR, best bang for your buck imo, + most reliable out of the other big/mid size executives of the time
190e Cosworth or an 840ci. Pop ups!
I’d LOVE an 8 series!! 👌😎
If you were going down the Alfa route there are some proper busso v6’s available in late model GT’s sub £10k!
I had a Maserati Coupe (4200)... got the cash out of that to pay some house renovation work, and bought an 05 XJ6... cheap to run, BUT I want a V8, so x358 jag or Maserati Quattroporte or Grand Tourismo... are in my saved autotrader page.
Please do the Bentley Cont GT - Desperate to see real life with one of those.
It would be a flying spur but yes, the financial reality of if will be fascinating to find out
People say if you cant afford it new, you cant afford to run it. But with bentleys now so cheap, when exactly does thst start not being true? I mean, depreciation is going to be almost non existant and a new white goods car will probably depreciate 2-3k a year alone?