Not just statements tho. It's also feats. Which is more than most others. It shows him in Broly 1 destroying 1/4 the Universe. While restricted via the necklace so restricted SSJ at best. No legend form since it breaks the device. Restricted SSJ Broly was relative but able to be hurt by Base Goku while he was forcibly surpressed
You know what the craziest thing is,if we assume that broly destroyed south galexy as a suppressed super saiyan,and he’s stronger in every movie (yes he’s at his strongest in bio broly),and goten and trunks are even able to do something to him,the boys in bio broly low key are swapping hands with kid buu from the anime
Koyama try not to Glaze Broly Challenge(impossible) also remember that in Z Vegito has no timer so his fusion is infinite (thought its worth mentioning) also i completely agree that power scalers are just harassing Koyama and need to leave this man alone. I personally disagree with the ranking put in this video but i see where you are coming from.
Are we really saying Gogeta is weaker than Broly when his strongest Z appearance showed Goten and Trunks running hands with the worlds strongest Muk and _not_ imploding in one shot? And I don't know how much powerscalers care about theoretical possibilities, but even if Bio Broly is even remotely comparable to Super Gogeta, there really is no reason why Gogeta can't use Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and erase the fcker by cracking his knuckles with malicious intent.
@@killersan6857 it really isnt people just cant comprehend that coolness =/= power ,they cant accept such things as Goten > Gogeta cuz they 1.dont understand movies take place in different timelines 2.Dont understand how powerscaling works
The fact that toriyama wrote that mind fk of a character and went to say he couldnt think of anything stronger than the end of z powers. You could make the argument that goku is literally stronger than her
I ain't letting one random statement convince me Broly>Gogeta over what I seen in the movies that brother Broly is a fraud let Gogeta breathe on his stomach and he's toast
Koyama is the one who wrote the db movies who are u to tell him hes wrong? If he says brolys the strongest character in z (at least in the movie universe) then he is idk why ppl wanna deny brolys strength
@@Invisibleboy999 Broly could be the strongest if given more time but never got to that time he got defeated by a powered up ssj and 3 ssjs now that was Buu Saga but still not Gogeta at most he's mid to high Buu Saga strength I don't just go by statements from years ago I go by what literally was in the movie
@@Invisibleboy999 Him getting beat by super saiyans when he's possibly above Gogeta just doesn't fit to me you hit Gogeta with the son family kanemehameha and I doubt it does anything I think more is going against Broly is all
Broly would obliterate jameba in his ssj form alone. Do you hear how foul his language is? Bro is more evil than janemba he would smash his face into a wall while telling him his mother dosen't love him. And dont get me started ong LSSJ oh nah even power wise lssj is stronger than janemba bust loses to gogeta because soul punisher or spirit bomb
@@crashtime3429tell me you didn’t watch the movies without telling me you didn’t watch the movies. It’s true what they say. Dragon ball fans haven’t even seen their own show(in this case specifically, their own movies)
Really good video but I'm surprised you didn't mention Hatchiyack or Arale. Since Hatchiyack is stated to be stronger than Broly (movie 8 at least) and Arale is... well Arale
I also think it's Vegito because if you really think about it, being turned into chocolate and still beating Buu's ass is just another level of swagger that can never be surpassed by power scalers and Koyamas glazing.
@@Tyrone96Db DB characters are resistant to hax. Like hella resistent. So for example if Goku is 2 and Vegeta is 2 and vegeta uses hakai but goku goes mui and his power increases to 4, hakai will be null and void. Thats how stupid strong DB characters are and why I also dont see why people bring up the "LN" characters like they stand a chance when goku one taps them. Look at Majin geta he did the same thing. Babadi used Hax on Vegeta but at the time we didn't know if he let himself be controlled. but he ended up spoiling that and Goku found out. Vegeta could've easily said nah fuck that and babadi's location would've been exposed and Vegeta, angered that someone that weak would try and control him, would kill him and dabura in one blast.
@@hadouradiance3566 no its not. along as you're far superior to your opponent you have major hax resistance to the point where any hax from the opposition is null and void unless you let it happen
I’d put Broly as the weakest of them as I don’t even consider him the strongest Z villain. That would be Janemba and Higuridan. End of Z Goku in third place, Gogeta in second and Vegito in first
I’m seeing names like Brolly Gogeta, the question is what’s the strongest Z character, they didnt exist in Z. Strongest character in Z is without a doubt Vegito. Strongest non fusion one is Mystic Gohan.
“As the strongest farmer, Goat with a shotgun, fought the fraud, the Potara fusion, he began to open up his Domain. Fraudgito shrunk back in fear, then Farmer said… “Stand proud, Vegito. You are strong.”
You should also do a video considering the POTENTIAL of the strongest. Like Buu is potentially the absolute strongest considering his ability to absorb.
I was toying with the idea of EoZ Goku being the strongest, because of how crazy the power boosts are between arcs. So a 10 year skip of Goku getting that next powerup plus having time to try and master SSJ3 like he did SSJ1&2 should be significant. However, the main issue is that nothing happens in those 10 years. So while there would be story arc boosts, most of the significant powerups come from a conflict. Because of the significance in the story, it feels like Vegito should be #1 over the movie characters. That's strictly from a "feels over facts" standpoint, but I'm glad an argument can be made to back it up.
This is until super wraps back around to concluding where EoZ begins. Remember, they are going to finish it that way which makes the scaling for Uub and EoZ Goku all that much more prominent.
I’m assuming you’re not counting fusions & non-canon characters (Which honestly doesn’t make sense because fusions are their own original characters). EOZ Goku clears.
I’m pretty sure that janemba was also called the strongest villain in the movies. Putting him above Broly who got dominated by two kids. Not to mention Gogeta literally one taps that dude. Now Vegito and Gogeta well…. Imo they are equal cause the Toriyama said that more than once but putting Broly above Gogeta feels like a crime
Broly. Reminder at the same training and experience rate he is unbeatable. We saw him with less quality and less quantity but far superior or on pair with stronger characters. Reminder gogeta was way more experienced and needed ALL his attacks to turn broly into his base form. The final kamehameha might have been the last attack to put base broly down. But if the fight continued like 10 minutes they would have lost.
My take 1. Gogeta 2. Vegito 3. Janemba Janemba's a dimension shifting entity turning the afterlife into a playground which is a higher realm altogether and bends space and matter at the drop of a hat, massively outscales a Goku who not only shook the afterlife but also traversed it with close to infinite levels of speed in base (or actually infinite if you believe the metal cooler movie happened, which is probably true) Gogeta wipes him out with ease and I have yet to see broly really show anything that's on par from with that. I'm not considering End of Z goku or Arale but it most likely End of Z Goku is above all in my headcannon.
@@BoxingStones40vegito is actually always stronger, or equal. This is simply due to how the fusions work. With the fusion dance you have to have equal ki to perform it. So the stronger individual has to weaken himself in the fusion for it to work. While that isn't needed in the potara. So if either vegeta or goku is stronger than the other in base, Vegito will be stronger. If they're equal (which they usually are to be fair) Vegito and gogeta will be equal.
Lets not forget about Arale, using her for scaling can make the 4 of them even more cracked. Cuz if all of them are stronger than her, then they could bully Tori-Bot and rewrite the narrative. Its fine if ya dont wanna include this tho, but just a potential thing to use to make them stronger, lolz
Oh yeah, I’m gonna actually tell you a spoiler that guy has an ability where if an opponent is stronger than him he gets stronger than them you’re asking does he train? No he just got stronger.
Fun funises, in the general scheme of the dragonball universe, Veghan is the strongest mortal character. Think about it, Beast Gohan can get stronger by letting more anger out while Ultra Ego Vegeta gets stronger from damage. We can assume that ultra ego works like ultra instinct as a technique not a transform while beast is a transformation so it is possible that like goku stacked ui on super sayian, then Veghan could stack stack ue on beast making a deadly combination that could out put other fusions.
Good video man The one I disagree with is broly cause personally due to his feats and his statements being a bit iffy not to throw shade or anything don’t harass people that ain’t cool but I’m fine with putting him above eoz goku but I don’t think he’s above gogeta but this is my opinion you can disagree idc
Thought it was gonna be broly for a second But i forgot you had vegito as your pfp This must be the reason This also means vegeta MEGA sold in the buu arc as if they were vegito they could've probably one shot kid buu 😭 W vid though fr
Bio broly is NOT the Strongest version of Z Broly. Second Coming Broly one shots Bio Broly. Hell even first movie broly wins 1. Who he fought: Ssj goten, Ssj trunks, Android 18 and KRILLIN (None of these characters are teen gohan level and first movie broly destroyed him. Also bio broly is always in LSSJ. In bio broly they are seen making bio broly cough blood while they were deal zero damage to Super Saiyan Broly in second coming (And there is no way goten and trunks got a zenkai so bullshitingly large that in bio broly they are as strong a ssj2 gohan). And Ssj Broly is stronger than ssj buu saga goku as stated by guides and daizenshus. And second coming broly manhandled a ss2 gohan who never stopped training after cell, Remember second coming gohan and buu saga gohan are different timelines. goten and trunks are nowhere near second coming ssj2 gohan.) 2. The Guides and daizenshus often compare Bio Broly to first movie broly. (More specifically Restrained Super Saiyan Broly from the first broly movie) 3. The back of the Bio Broly movie box does not state Bio Broly is the Strongest Saiyan in history. The whole "Strongest Saiyan in history" bit is referring to Broly. Not Bio Broly specifically. All the back of the box states is that he has new powers. In conclusion the whole "Bio Broly is stronger than Second Coming Broly" is a complete and utter lie.
Hirudegarn seems to be stronger than even the likes of Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks. SSJ3 Goku in Wrath of The Dragon seems to be substantially stronger.
you could argue EOZ goku over vegito by saying that base goku is equal if not greater than ssj3 goku from the kid buu fight through his fight with uub (depending on if you think uub is equal to kid buu or if you think goku is holding back against uub) vegito is stated to be equal in base to ssj3 goku from the buu arc. with this you could say that goku got at least 400 times stronger over the time skip making him equal to base vegito and has higher transformations (as far as we know. vegito probably has access to ssj2 and ssj3 they are just never shown) there is an even better case for EOZ goku if you think fusion is A + B x 100 = C which would make vegito only equal to 200x goku as opposed to 400x in base if you think goku and vegeta are relative in the buu arc
Wouldnt it be the angels and zeno? Not really into dbz anymore but arent they like leagues above everyone else? I would have included the gods od destruction but i know some characters may have passed some up
Technically🤓, Gogeta came first. The manga chapters with Vegito came out first, but Toriyama said he was inspired by the team making Fusion Reborn to have Goku and Vegeta fuse, he just made up the Potara fusion so it wouldn't be the same is in the movie
We all know it's end of z goku if we are being real. You said that if uub was likely around kid buus level and goku is able to match that power in base holding back he is easily stronger than the other forms of Buu. Given that uub both in kakarot and the manga pushed Goku to start to get a serious in base (ground fight) it's pretty obvious that uub is around if not stronger than kid buus level by being part human in having siblings and magical power on top of that. If goku hasn't surpassed super Vegito in the Buu saga thats honestly just sad and not believable tbh. Goku has yes, while in peace time, been training for TEN years straight. And even with the singular statement saying vegito was the strongest in history, that is not valid if we're counting ALL of DB (ignoring BoG and RoF) Now Dr.slump is in the dragon ball verse with arale having the same insane feats of just doing whatever she wants in her own story in both shows. If we are going off manga strictly then its def End of Z Goku, as Kid Buu, while still weaker than base Vegito, is around the same uub who temporarily matched a base Goku holding back. If we say base vegito in the Buu saga is stronger than goku's base that's fine but the pure power multiplier for ssj3 is insane and I dont think you know how badly goku would shit on Vegito. Vegito (Buu) = or > Base Goku EOZ Super Vegito (Buu) >> Base Goku EOZ Super Vegito (Buu)
@@na5567 I mean sure, but you specifically asked if they’d be able to ward off the coming of Galactus. I don’t see them gettting past a singular herald tbh.
@@sev9258 that heavily depends on the herald. Herald power is wildly inconsistent but currently between Goku UI, Vegeta Ego, Gohan Beast, and Orange Piccolo, I think they would easily win against most heralds. But during the arcs mentioned it's less likely.
actually you got different things wrong, especially with the Vegito vs Gogeta part as most of the sources you use for Vegito say Gogeta is the strongest fusion character etc...
@@lonkstakes no, the furigana for some scans remain the same between Gogeta and Vegito(above Gattai) and some call him the ultimate super warrior so Idk how much it helps your case
@@lonkstakes I think he provides good evidence for what his take, getting up to like 10D I will say I don’t think EVERY argument is 100% sound, but I think he brings up pretty good points for it imo
You said that Janemba is stronger than other movie villains but then ranked Broly above Gogeta. I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Either way, I don't mind beause my boi Vegito is number 1, baby.
If we count fusions and movies then Gogeta from fusion reborn would be the strongest because that movie takes after buu saga and technically goku is far stronger because he doesn't have a physical body so he us able to maintain ssj3 much better, and vegeta in ssj2 was able to hold back janemba before getting slapped, but once they fused one key fact was all of reality felt goku and vegeta fuse into Gogeta and they were in the afterlife which is a whole serrated universe.
How the hell is Broly> Gogeta ??? He got folded by SSJ Goku. The Koyama glazing is crazy, bro made a mid-high tier character for the time and we just gonna ignore feats now because of a biased unreliable statement
Alright hear me out gogeta arguably one shots kid buu, Z BROLY, cell, and frieza. All for the simple fact of what soul punisher does to the person hit, so since soul punisher cleans all evil from the person who is hit and since frieza, kid buu, z broly, and cell are all evil it would theoretically one shot all.
Naw, Bulmchi (Bulma + Chi Chi via potara) wins by a mile. The only two characters consistently capable of taming Vegeta and Goku. Therefore Bulmchi beats Vegito as well.
I think that gogeta is above broly due to the fact that gogeta is goku and vegeta at their strongest multiplied and added together. So ssj3 goku +ssj2 vegeta × a. So i think gogeta would be strong due to the multiplier and janemba also having that statement lf the strongest villan and was able to alter the after life just by existing. This wasn't even in Super janemba, so i think that puts gogeta above broly because he beat janemba without trying. And goten and trunks sensed gogetas energy while they were in earth, and he was in hell.
Everyone knows its Hercule
Nah kratos
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg Whats a polar bear doing in arlington texas????
Naw man it's definitely Goku Jr.
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg kratos gets stomped by kid buu
Farmer with a shotgun is a close second
Broly being carried by one off statements is hilarious
It’s very Broly of him
Because they give him a very small sandbox to play in, and his playtime is only put to an end by plot convenience/contrivance.
@@lonkstakesHe is Videl level
Not just statements tho. It's also feats. Which is more than most others. It shows him in Broly 1 destroying 1/4 the Universe. While restricted via the necklace so restricted SSJ at best. No legend form since it breaks the device.
Restricted SSJ Broly was relative but able to be hurt by Base Goku while he was forcibly surpressed
Bro got beaten by Super Saiyans bro i aint buying any of his glazing😂even if its by his creator
Farmer with a shotgun: nah i’d win.
Stand proud Gogeta, you are strong
@@lonkstakes “Are these… tears?”
@@kirbyof590stars good question, i wouldn't know that
You know what the craziest thing is,if we assume that broly destroyed south galexy as a suppressed super saiyan,and he’s stronger in every movie (yes he’s at his strongest in bio broly),and goten and trunks are even able to do something to him,the boys in bio broly low key are swapping hands with kid buu from the anime
Maybe. Broly is lowkey holding back the entire time in every movie
@@lonkstakes Nah, Videl is universal you can't convince me otherwise.
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot multiversal
@@lonkstakeshow was he holding back?
Well it showed goten and trunks without trying was dodging and blocking multiple cell jr so i believe it
1. THE CHAMP
2. Farmer with a shotgun
3. Vegito
4. Arale
Farmer with a shot gun
Hercule
Arale
End of z goku
arale beats all every character
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 End of Z Goku>Arale, stated by Toriyama
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot never heard of that but it's wrong
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 its not
The title “the angel born in hell” is actually a 10x power boost from simply how cool it is, making Goatgeta the strongest
But vegito is hot so he wins
Fraudgeta.
Plus, he has cool visible abs, so that adds a x10 boost to power because of how tough it makes him look.
Translating:
"Worse vegito wins cuz i want him to win"
@@jaizkai think vegito is better but tbh they wont fight, there just gonna be friends
Koyama try not to Glaze Broly Challenge(impossible) also remember that in Z Vegito has no timer so his fusion is infinite (thought its worth mentioning) also i completely agree that power scalers are just harassing Koyama and need to leave this man alone.
I personally disagree with the ranking put in this video but i see where you are coming from.
Ultra Instinct Ego Vegitogeta. With tail.
the name would be Gogito
With his Ikari form.
(Gohan absorbed)
Sam sulek ultra ego lift
@@Speedpunk650 Or Gogerot if…… yea Vegerot really couldn’t be pronounced in any way that sounds good compared to Vegetto.
Gogeta being weaker than Broly is such a Broly thing to say.
Are we really saying Gogeta is weaker than Broly when his strongest Z appearance showed Goten and Trunks running hands with the worlds strongest Muk and _not_ imploding in one shot? And I don't know how much powerscalers care about theoretical possibilities, but even if Bio Broly is even remotely comparable to Super Gogeta, there really is no reason why Gogeta can't use Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and erase the fcker by cracking his knuckles with malicious intent.
Fr I agree with vegito being the strongest but Broly over gogeta is just wild 😂
That just means Goten and Trunks from Bio Broly are also stronger than Gogeta from Fusion reborn
@@killersan6857 it really isnt people just cant comprehend that coolness =/= power ,they cant accept such things as Goten > Gogeta cuz they 1.dont understand movies take place in different timelines 2.Dont understand how powerscaling works
@@srnova9486bro are you saying ssj3 goku< goten and trunks?
@@Big.E.02 yeah,bio broly goten and trunks specifically are stronger than fusion reborn ssj 3 goku
i think you forgot about the strongest character in dragon ball period. The legend herself, Arale
Nah. Goku scales above her
@@crashtime3429 true
The fact that toriyama wrote that mind fk of a character and went to say he couldnt think of anything stronger than the end of z powers.
You could make the argument that goku is literally stronger than her
@@JackRippa-bq9qobut then it was retconed by the introduction of Beerus and whis.
@@Mexican1632 i dont think it is bcz beerus is stated to just ignore gag powers in thesame ep goku fought arale
I ain't letting one random statement convince me Broly>Gogeta over what I seen in the movies that brother Broly is a fraud let Gogeta breathe on his stomach and he's toast
Its a bit more than a random statement but understandable lol
Koyama is the one who wrote the db movies who are u to tell him hes wrong? If he says brolys the strongest character in z (at least in the movie universe) then he is idk why ppl wanna deny brolys strength
@@Invisibleboy999 Broly could be the strongest if given more time but never got to that time he got defeated by a powered up ssj and 3 ssjs now that was Buu Saga but still not Gogeta at most he's mid to high Buu Saga strength I don't just go by statements from years ago I go by what literally was in the movie
@@lmAndyYT i mean we never seen broly go all out so its not like the statements is contradicted
@@Invisibleboy999 Him getting beat by super saiyans when he's possibly above Gogeta just doesn't fit to me you hit Gogeta with the son family kanemehameha and I doubt it does anything I think more is going against Broly is all
Real truthers know broly is a janemba victim🗣🗣🔥🔥
I aint a truther then
@@lonkstakes Imo Mrperfectcell has a good video going over it,id recommend it
Broly would obliterate jameba in his ssj form alone. Do you hear how foul his language is? Bro is more evil than janemba he would smash his face into a wall while telling him his mother dosen't love him. And dont get me started ong LSSJ oh nah even power wise lssj is stronger than janemba bust loses to gogeta because soul punisher or spirit bomb
@@crashtime3429this is so cringey, and hard to understand.
@@crashtime3429tell me you didn’t watch the movies without telling me you didn’t watch the movies. It’s true what they say. Dragon ball fans haven’t even seen their own show(in this case specifically, their own movies)
Really good video but I'm surprised you didn't mention Hatchiyack or Arale. Since Hatchiyack is stated to be stronger than Broly (movie 8 at least) and Arale is... well Arale
One soul punisher and it’s wraps for Broly 😂
Ironically, super broly tanked it 💀
@@blackfangex6813 where did you even get this information that super broly is weaker than Z broly because its false...
@@blackfangex6813 this is sad gamer…
@@blackfangex6813 in what world are you living dude
@@blackfangex6813super broly decimates z broly 💀
I am pretty sure Janemba is also stated to be the strongest villian in Z in one source.
He mentions that while talking about Gogeta (in terms of movies), and the Buu statements in the film implies that
Yeah but it doesn’t really make sense to put him on this list when Gogeta no diffed him
@@tales9342 But then why Broly? It's literally a contradiction to janemba being the strongest bad guy
that statement was unironically removed after Koyama said Broly is the strongest
Here's a random fun fact Gogeta has Vegeta's hairline and Vegito has Goku's hairline
Not dbs broly gogeta now games do that now
Thank you so much!
I really needed this info(:
Okay you see i will watch this video
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Told yall it’s Vegito but yall ain’t wanna listen looking at you Gogeta fans
I've tried to let them know
@@lonkstakes you’re a real one for this
I’m ngl you putting Broly over Gogeta is some special meat munching😂. Realistically Broly is a Super Perfect Cell victim😂
Yeah bro was glazing. Goku in the buu saga solos Broly. Gogeta and Vegito probably wouldn’t even need super saiyan to win.
Cope. Gogeta is a fraud.
@@pzychzeroSilence lil bro 🙏 the adults talkin
@@AjayGFN Insulting me because you can’t prove me wrong. Stfu 💀
@@pzychzero nah z broly is a fraud he get one shot by ssj goku even if this goku get power boost by other z fighterz so yeah
Yes yes. Thank you so much for agreeing that Vegito is the strongest. Fully agree with what you said.
No offense but broly at best is ssj3 goku fodder
1.Vegetto
2.Gojīta
3.end of z Goku
4.Broly
I also think it's Vegito because if you really think about it, being turned into chocolate and still beating Buu's ass is just another level of swagger that can never be surpassed by power scalers and Koyamas glazing.
Every DBZ character can do that above the power level of 10
@crashtime3429
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No they can't? That feat is UNIQUE to Vegito.
@@crashtime3429 Why was Vegito the only one to FIGHT BACK and TALK to buu and beat him?
@@Tyrone96Db DB characters are resistant to hax. Like hella resistent. So for example if Goku is 2 and Vegeta is 2 and vegeta uses hakai but goku goes mui and his power increases to 4, hakai will be null and void. Thats how stupid strong DB characters are and why I also dont see why people bring up the "LN" characters like they stand a chance when goku one taps them.
Look at Majin geta he did the same thing. Babadi used Hax on Vegeta but at the time we didn't know if he let himself be controlled. but he ended up spoiling that and Goku found out. Vegeta could've easily said nah fuck that and babadi's location would've been exposed and Vegeta, angered that someone that weak would try and control him, would kill him and dabura in one blast.
@@hadouradiance3566 no its not. along as you're far superior to your opponent you have major hax resistance to the point where any hax from the opposition is null and void unless you let it happen
Buu's Dog is the strongest
Don't lie to yourself
You know it to be true
We all know Bee is short for Beerus Level Threat.
@@jonolivier9126 Just you wait 'till he trains, Black Frieza has got something coming
I’d put Broly as the weakest of them as I don’t even consider him the strongest Z villain. That would be Janemba and Higuridan. End of Z Goku in third place, Gogeta in second and Vegito in first
I’m seeing names like Brolly Gogeta, the question is what’s the strongest Z character, they didnt exist in Z. Strongest character in Z is without a doubt Vegito. Strongest non fusion one is Mystic Gohan.
“As the strongest farmer, Goat with a shotgun, fought the fraud, the Potara fusion, he began to open up his Domain. Fraudgito shrunk back in fear, then Farmer said… “Stand proud, Vegito. You are strong.”
Power scalers harassing authors and creators is cringe.
You should also do a video considering the POTENTIAL of the strongest. Like Buu is potentially the absolute strongest considering his ability to absorb.
I already did
Cool Video! 👍
You placed Broly in 2nd and Gogeta in 3rd after stating Janemba is the strongest movie villain. Who was defeated by Gogeta. Perfect sense imo.
Did you conveniently miss the text on the bottom of the screen where I said the statement got deleted?
@@lonkstakes I did lol, I was just listening to the audio. My apologies!
I was toying with the idea of EoZ Goku being the strongest, because of how crazy the power boosts are between arcs. So a 10 year skip of Goku getting that next powerup plus having time to try and master SSJ3 like he did SSJ1&2 should be significant. However, the main issue is that nothing happens in those 10 years. So while there would be story arc boosts, most of the significant powerups come from a conflict.
Because of the significance in the story, it feels like Vegito should be #1 over the movie characters. That's strictly from a "feels over facts" standpoint, but I'm glad an argument can be made to back it up.
This is until super wraps back around to concluding where EoZ begins. Remember, they are going to finish it that way which makes the scaling for Uub and EoZ Goku all that much more prominent.
This is gunna be interesting
It is!
KOYAMA’S LEBRON IS CRAZY WORK LMAOOO
1)Dai Kaioshin
2)Gohan
3)Super Buu
4)South Kaioshin
5)Pure Buu
6)Goku
7)Good Boo
8)Vegeta
9)Dabra
9)Cell
10)Piccolo
11)Android 17
12)Android 18
13)Tirn
14)Krillin
15)Yamcha
16)Trunks
17)Goten
17)King Cold
18)Frieza
I’m assuming you’re not counting fusions & non-canon characters (Which honestly doesn’t make sense because fusions are their own original characters). EOZ Goku clears.
@@pzychzero You're right, I didn't count fusion and absorbption.
I agree EOZ Goku and EOZ Vegeta are first and second respectively.
I’m pretty sure that janemba was also called the strongest villain in the movies. Putting him above Broly who got dominated by two kids. Not to mention Gogeta literally one taps that dude. Now Vegito and Gogeta well…. Imo they are equal cause the Toriyama said that more than once but putting Broly above Gogeta feels like a crime
Goten and Trunks are universal+
Hey Lonk whats your thoughts on Kid Buu vs Janemba?
Broly.
Reminder at the same training and experience rate he is unbeatable.
We saw him with less quality and less quantity but far superior or on pair with stronger characters.
Reminder gogeta was way more experienced and needed ALL his attacks to turn broly into his base form.
The final kamehameha might have been the last attack to put base broly down.
But if the fight continued like 10 minutes they would have lost.
My take
1. Gogeta
2. Vegito
3. Janemba
Janemba's a dimension shifting entity turning the afterlife into a playground which is a higher realm altogether and bends space and matter at the drop of a hat, massively outscales a Goku who not only shook the afterlife but also traversed it with close to infinite levels of speed in base (or actually infinite if you believe the metal cooler movie happened, which is probably true) Gogeta wipes him out with ease and I have yet to see broly really show anything that's on par from with that. I'm not considering End of Z goku or Arale but it most likely End of Z Goku is above all in my headcannon.
@@blackfangex6813 yeah but it seems like it can go either way now
@@BoxingStones40vegito is actually always stronger, or equal.
This is simply due to how the fusions work.
With the fusion dance you have to have equal ki to perform it. So the stronger individual has to weaken himself in the fusion for it to work. While that isn't needed in the potara.
So if either vegeta or goku is stronger than the other in base, Vegito will be stronger. If they're equal (which they usually are to be fair) Vegito and gogeta will be equal.
Great video! Vegito is number 1.
Usual Rod W
Arale*
Lets not forget about Arale, using her for scaling can make the 4 of them even more cracked.
Cuz if all of them are stronger than her, then they could bully Tori-Bot and rewrite the narrative.
Its fine if ya dont wanna include this tho, but just a potential thing to use to make them stronger, lolz
Yea that would put them wayyyyy over the top seeing how she can just literally transcend her own manga
The guy who is hinted to seal elder Kai
I mean Elder kai implies that guy is weaker than kid buu 😭
Oh yeah, I’m gonna actually tell you a spoiler that guy has an ability where if an opponent is stronger than him he gets stronger than them you’re asking does he train? No he just got stronger.
@@lonkstakes I think it was Fat Buu actually lmao
Fun funises, in the general scheme of the dragonball universe, Veghan is the strongest mortal character. Think about it, Beast Gohan can get stronger by letting more anger out while Ultra Ego Vegeta gets stronger from damage. We can assume that ultra ego works like ultra instinct as a technique not a transform while beast is a transformation so it is possible that like goku stacked ui on super sayian, then Veghan could stack stack ue on beast making a deadly combination that could out put other fusions.
Lord slug of course
How are you gonna downplay the goat, Dr. Wheelo like that?
Good video man
The one I disagree with is broly cause personally due to his feats and his statements being a bit iffy not to throw shade or anything don’t harass people that ain’t cool
but I’m fine with putting him above eoz goku but I don’t think he’s above gogeta but this is my opinion you can disagree idc
Kid buu:nah I’d win
Pretty sure he'd go: "OOH OOH GRAHHH"
@@lonkstakes maybe uub?
Thought it was gonna be broly for a second
But i forgot you had vegito as your pfp
This must be the reason
This also means vegeta MEGA sold in the buu arc as if they were vegito they could've probably one shot kid buu 😭
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Bio broly is NOT the Strongest version of Z Broly. Second Coming Broly one shots Bio Broly. Hell even first movie broly wins
1. Who he fought: Ssj goten, Ssj trunks, Android 18 and KRILLIN
(None of these characters are teen gohan level and first movie broly destroyed him. Also bio broly is always in LSSJ. In bio broly they are seen making bio broly cough blood while they were deal zero damage to Super Saiyan Broly in second coming (And there is no way goten and trunks got a zenkai so bullshitingly large that in bio broly they are as strong a ssj2 gohan). And Ssj Broly is stronger than ssj buu saga goku as stated by guides and daizenshus. And second coming broly manhandled a ss2 gohan who never stopped training after cell,
Remember second coming gohan and buu saga gohan are different timelines. goten and trunks are nowhere near second coming ssj2 gohan.)
2. The Guides and daizenshus often compare Bio Broly to first movie broly.
(More specifically Restrained Super Saiyan Broly from the first broly movie)
3. The back of the Bio Broly movie box does not state Bio Broly is the Strongest Saiyan in history. The whole "Strongest Saiyan in history" bit is referring to Broly. Not Bio Broly specifically. All the back of the box states is that he has new powers.
In conclusion the whole "Bio Broly is stronger than Second Coming Broly" is a complete and utter lie.
Yo Lonk’s takes! Don’t want to rush you but please do can Guts(Berserk) beat Homelander and the Seven! Video
I never really believed Vegito was better than Gogeta In Broly the movie that released in 2018 proves this 👀👀👀
Tori Bot is true answer
is hirudegarn able to beat anyone you've shown in the video?
Hirudegarn seems to be stronger than even the likes of Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks. SSJ3 Goku in Wrath of The Dragon seems to be substantially stronger.
So that would probably put Hirudegarn > Buuhan > Super Buu >= Kid Buu.
Strongest charactes in Z be like "is it goku or vegeta or goku and vegeta or vegeta and goku or broly"
everyone knows the strongest character is BULMA i mean who takes a bitch slap from Beerus and survive
LETS CHARGE TOGETHER AT FULL POWER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
you could argue EOZ goku over vegito by saying that base goku is equal if not greater than ssj3 goku from the kid buu fight through his fight with uub (depending on if you think uub is equal to kid buu or if you think goku is holding back against uub) vegito is stated to be equal in base to ssj3 goku from the buu arc. with this you could say that goku got at least 400 times stronger over the time skip making him equal to base vegito and has higher transformations (as far as we know. vegito probably has access to ssj2 and ssj3 they are just never shown) there is an even better case for EOZ goku if you think fusion is A + B x 100 = C which would make vegito only equal to 200x goku as opposed to 400x in base if you think goku and vegeta are relative in the buu arc
You forgot the actual two strongest characters farmer with shotgun and Mr Satan
Wouldnt it be the angels and zeno? Not really into dbz anymore but arent they like leagues above everyone else? I would have included the gods od destruction but i know some characters may have passed some up
This video is strictly talking about DBZ, not super.
Great video man but we all know the strongest is demon King dabura
Fact that every character art in this thumbnail is drawn by Fenyo is hilarious
they arent
Technically🤓, Gogeta came first. The manga chapters with Vegito came out first, but Toriyama said he was inspired by the team making Fusion Reborn to have Goku and Vegeta fuse, he just made up the Potara fusion so it wouldn't be the same is in the movie
We all know it's end of z goku if we are being real.
You said that if uub was likely around kid buus level and goku is able to match that power in base holding back he is easily stronger than the other forms of Buu. Given that uub both in kakarot and the manga pushed Goku to start to get a serious in base (ground fight) it's pretty obvious that uub is around if not stronger than kid buus level by being part human in having siblings and magical power on top of that.
If goku hasn't surpassed super Vegito in the Buu saga thats honestly just sad and not believable tbh. Goku has yes, while in peace time, been training for TEN years straight. And even with the singular statement saying vegito was the strongest in history, that is not valid if we're counting ALL of DB (ignoring BoG and RoF)
Now Dr.slump is in the dragon ball verse with arale having the same insane feats of just doing whatever she wants in her own story in both shows. If we are going off manga strictly then its def End of Z Goku, as Kid Buu, while still weaker than base Vegito, is around the same uub who temporarily matched a base Goku holding back. If we say base vegito in the Buu saga is stronger than goku's base that's fine but the pure power multiplier for ssj3 is insane and I dont think you know how badly goku would shit on Vegito.
Vegito (Buu) = or > Base Goku EOZ
Super Vegito (Buu) >> Base Goku EOZ
Super Vegito (Buu)
Was about to say whis but i didnt watch the video for long. oof
I precoged you, sorry 😭
@@lonkstakes lol
I would personally rank it
Goku
Broly
Super Gogeta
Super Vegito
Before video: my answer is End of Z Goku, Kid Buu and Vegito.
Either Tori-Bot or his editor.
I think farmer with a shotgun is brutally underrated
Could the z fighters ward off the coming of Galactus?
If he replaced the sayains
Golden Freeza,
Moro
CellMax?
No
@@sev9258 unless one wanted to be his herald 🤷♂️
@@na5567 I mean sure, but you specifically asked if they’d be able to ward off the coming of Galactus. I don’t see them gettting past a singular herald tbh.
@@sev9258 that heavily depends on the herald. Herald power is wildly inconsistent but currently between Goku UI, Vegeta Ego, Gohan Beast, and Orange Piccolo, I think they would easily win against most heralds. But during the arcs mentioned it's less likely.
Broly is, he has no limits. He's kinda like Hulk the more he rages the stronger he gets
Z Broly is a overrated fodder and SSJ2 Teen Gohan victim
@@PredsjednikGustavo._cap there’s to many statements making Broly stronger
@@sebtw8918 Like what?
@@PredsjednikGustavo._ the statement in the 1st Broly movie of him destroying a galaxy
None of the characters have limits thats the point
That’s it im leaving this channel because there is no way you put broly above gogeta even if you have any reason that’s ridiculous
Grand priest it's been stated or you only going off these characters
actually you got different things wrong, especially with the Vegito vs Gogeta part as most of the sources you use for Vegito say Gogeta is the strongest fusion character etc...
Yes, "fusion"... as in the dance
@@lonkstakes no, the furigana for some scans remain the same between Gogeta and Vegito(above Gattai) and some call him the ultimate super warrior so Idk how much it helps your case
Go Vegito go
Edit: Yayyy I'm happy althought I expected Broly to be the first one out due to horrible feats.
Everyone knows it's the farmer smh
Have you seen Atari HMB’s scaling DB cosmology?
No I havent. Is it good? bad?
@@lonkstakes I think he provides good evidence for what his take, getting up to like 10D
I will say I don’t think EVERY argument is 100% sound, but I think he brings up pretty good points for it imo
You said that Janemba is stronger than other movie villains but then ranked Broly above Gogeta. I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Either way, I don't mind beause my boi Vegito is number 1, baby.
Headcanon is Lord Popo, real answer is Arale
“Janemba is the strongest movie villain”
So, Vegito > Gogeta > Janemba > Broly ?
Its very telling that the Janemba strongest statement was deleted from the website imo
@@lonkstakes It’s fine I’m used to being wrong 😩
Arale or Broly or vegito? Who wins?
Obviously its Arale
If we count fusions and movies then Gogeta from fusion reborn would be the strongest because that movie takes after buu saga and technically goku is far stronger because he doesn't have a physical body so he us able to maintain ssj3 much better, and vegeta in ssj2 was able to hold back janemba before getting slapped, but once they fused one key fact was all of reality felt goku and vegeta fuse into Gogeta and they were in the afterlife which is a whole serrated universe.
wait isn’t super vegito stated to be only galaxy level at most which is the same as base broly?
Bro PLEASE, link of the fanart of Gogeta from the thumbnail????
It’s from dragon ball legends and the Vegito art is from Fenyo
@@lonkstakes thanks.
1st vegito
2nd gogeta
3rd janemba
4th kid buu
I can't with db fans anymore. People still think Jiren from the t.o.p is stronger then moro
You went off of author and daizenshuu statements over actual feats?
1. Technically beerus since hes in battle of gods which is a z movie.
2. Super gogeta from fusion reborn
3. Vegito
4. Janemba
5. Buuhan
6. Z broly 😎😎😎
How the hell is Broly> Gogeta ??? He got folded by SSJ Goku. The Koyama glazing is crazy, bro made a mid-high tier character for the time and we just gonna ignore feats now because of a biased unreliable statement
Broly got a Mickey 2nd 😭😭😭
Alright hear me out gogeta arguably one shots kid buu, Z BROLY, cell, and frieza. All for the simple fact of what soul punisher does to the person hit, so since soul punisher cleans all evil from the person who is hit and since frieza, kid buu, z broly, and cell are all evil it would theoretically one shot all.
So i think the order is
1st super vegito
2nd super gogeta
3rd super janemba
4th lssj broly
I didn't know someone could be this wrong 😅😅
Restained Movie 8 SS1 Broly Solo Z and Gt.
8:48 then call miraculous punch goku vs Broly the strongest
Naw, Bulmchi (Bulma + Chi Chi via potara) wins by a mile. The only two characters consistently capable of taming Vegeta and Goku. Therefore Bulmchi beats Vegito as well.
I think that gogeta is above broly due to the fact that gogeta is goku and vegeta at their strongest multiplied and added together. So ssj3 goku +ssj2 vegeta × a. So i think gogeta would be strong due to the multiplier and janemba also having that statement lf the strongest villan and was able to alter the after life just by existing. This wasn't even in Super janemba, so i think that puts gogeta above broly because he beat janemba without trying. And goten and trunks sensed gogetas energy while they were in earth, and he was in hell.
Ignoring statements, who do you think is the strongest via feats alone?
🤓☝️actually it’s Hercules no celled a hit from kid bu only damage took was getting flown back
vegito IS JUST HIM bro.