you could argue EOZ goku over vegito by saying that base goku is equal if not greater than ssj3 goku from the kid buu fight through his fight with uub (depending on if you think uub is equal to kid buu or if you think goku is holding back against uub) vegito is stated to be equal in base to ssj3 goku from the buu arc. with this you could say that goku got at least 400 times stronger over the time skip making him equal to base vegito and has higher transformations (as far as we know. vegito probably has access to ssj2 and ssj3 they are just never shown) there is an even better case for EOZ goku if you think fusion is A + B x 100 = C which would make vegito only equal to 200x goku as opposed to 400x in base if you think goku and vegeta are relative in the buu arc
Not just statements tho. It's also feats. Which is more than most others. It shows him in Broly 1 destroying 1/4 the Universe. While restricted via the necklace so restricted SSJ at best. No legend form since it breaks the device. Restricted SSJ Broly was relative but able to be hurt by Base Goku while he was forcibly surpressed
You know what the craziest thing is,if we assume that broly destroyed south galexy as a suppressed super saiyan,and he’s stronger in every movie (yes he’s at his strongest in bio broly),and goten and trunks are even able to do something to him,the boys in bio broly low key are swapping hands with kid buu from the anime
Koyama try not to Glaze Broly Challenge(impossible) also remember that in Z Vegito has no timer so his fusion is infinite (thought its worth mentioning) also i completely agree that power scalers are just harassing Koyama and need to leave this man alone. I personally disagree with the ranking put in this video but i see where you are coming from.
Are we really saying Gogeta is weaker than Broly when his strongest Z appearance showed Goten and Trunks running hands with the worlds strongest Muk and _not_ imploding in one shot? And I don't know how much powerscalers care about theoretical possibilities, but even if Bio Broly is even remotely comparable to Super Gogeta, there really is no reason why Gogeta can't use Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and erase the fcker by cracking his knuckles with malicious intent.
@@killersan6857 it really isnt people just cant comprehend that coolness =/= power ,they cant accept such things as Goten > Gogeta cuz they 1.dont understand movies take place in different timelines 2.Dont understand how powerscaling works
Broly would obliterate jameba in his ssj form alone. Do you hear how foul his language is? Bro is more evil than janemba he would smash his face into a wall while telling him his mother dosen't love him. And dont get me started ong LSSJ oh nah even power wise lssj is stronger than janemba bust loses to gogeta because soul punisher or spirit bomb
@@crashtime3429tell me you didn’t watch the movies without telling me you didn’t watch the movies. It’s true what they say. Dragon ball fans haven’t even seen their own show(in this case specifically, their own movies)
The fact that toriyama wrote that mind fk of a character and went to say he couldnt think of anything stronger than the end of z powers. You could make the argument that goku is literally stronger than her
I ain't letting one random statement convince me Broly>Gogeta over what I seen in the movies that brother Broly is a fraud let Gogeta breathe on his stomach and he's toast
Koyama is the one who wrote the db movies who are u to tell him hes wrong? If he says brolys the strongest character in z (at least in the movie universe) then he is idk why ppl wanna deny brolys strength
@@Invisibleboy999 Broly could be the strongest if given more time but never got to that time he got defeated by a powered up ssj and 3 ssjs now that was Buu Saga but still not Gogeta at most he's mid to high Buu Saga strength I don't just go by statements from years ago I go by what literally was in the movie
@@Invisibleboy999 Him getting beat by super saiyans when he's possibly above Gogeta just doesn't fit to me you hit Gogeta with the son family kanemehameha and I doubt it does anything I think more is going against Broly is all
Really good video but I'm surprised you didn't mention Hatchiyack or Arale. Since Hatchiyack is stated to be stronger than Broly (movie 8 at least) and Arale is... well Arale
EoGT is a fucking menace. He trained so hard that he fought literal universe level demigods in his natural form and then trained for 100 more years. Dude stomps golden frieza in his base, like, 100 years of training is ridiculous for a Saiyan
Bio broly is NOT the Strongest version of Z Broly. Second Coming Broly one shots Bio Broly. Hell even first movie broly wins 1. Who he fought: Ssj goten, Ssj trunks, Android 18 and KRILLIN (None of these characters are teen gohan level and first movie broly destroyed him. Also bio broly is always in LSSJ. In bio broly they are seen making bio broly cough blood while they were deal zero damage to Super Saiyan Broly in second coming (And there is no way goten and trunks got a zenkai so bullshitingly large that in bio broly they are as strong a ssj2 gohan). And Ssj Broly is stronger than ssj buu saga goku as stated by guides and daizenshus. And second coming broly manhandled a ss2 gohan who never stopped training after cell, Remember second coming gohan and buu saga gohan are different timelines. goten and trunks are nowhere near second coming ssj2 gohan.) 2. The Guides and daizenshus often compare Bio Broly to first movie broly. (More specifically Restrained Super Saiyan Broly from the first broly movie) 3. The back of the Bio Broly movie box does not state Bio Broly is the Strongest Saiyan in history. The whole "Strongest Saiyan in history" bit is referring to Broly. Not Bio Broly specifically. All the back of the box states is that he has new powers. In conclusion the whole "Bio Broly is stronger than Second Coming Broly" is a complete and utter lie.
I also think it's Vegito because if you really think about it, being turned into chocolate and still beating Buu's ass is just another level of swagger that can never be surpassed by power scalers and Koyamas glazing.
@@Tyrone96Db DB characters are resistant to hax. Like hella resistent. So for example if Goku is 2 and Vegeta is 2 and vegeta uses hakai but goku goes mui and his power increases to 4, hakai will be null and void. Thats how stupid strong DB characters are and why I also dont see why people bring up the "LN" characters like they stand a chance when goku one taps them. Look at Majin geta he did the same thing. Babadi used Hax on Vegeta but at the time we didn't know if he let himself be controlled. but he ended up spoiling that and Goku found out. Vegeta could've easily said nah fuck that and babadi's location would've been exposed and Vegeta, angered that someone that weak would try and control him, would kill him and dabura in one blast.
@@hadouradiance3566 no its not. along as you're far superior to your opponent you have major hax resistance to the point where any hax from the opposition is null and void unless you let it happen
Dam i didn't notice but ssj1 gogeta looks like such a chad in your thumbnail, like- he's so strong and handsome man what a great ass on the guy. (I stole the last line from- plagueofgripes) but seriously he does look sick!
Why are all of your arguments always based on outdated and inconsistent statements from the guides and other sources that are easily debunked by actual scaling? Your entire argument in this video was basically just "this author said this and also said that so this character is obviously the strongest". It didn't feel like you were actually trying to gauge the power of the characters in an actually logical or consistent way
It's so impossible to scale DBZ Broly properly, that idiot has some absolutely wild feats only the Buu's come close to... and he gets defeated by regular Super Saiyans... twice. There is no argument strong enough to justify getting one shot on two separate occasions by infinitely weaker opponents unless you're actually not that stronger and that's how Broly's whole mythos falls apart. I do not believe he even stands a chance against SSJ3 Angel Goku, let alone end of Z Goku.
Makes no sense time-wise. In time wise and statement wise, It's EOZ Goku by far. The strongest Z-Movie character is Janemba (Surprisingly) due to the statement of "Movie villains get stronger with each new movie" and logically, Janemba needed a Super Saiyan Gogeta, a lot of people forget that fact. Otherwise yeah, your opinion has valid parts alongside unvalid ones but cool, it's a good tiering.
I’m seeing names like Brolly Gogeta, the question is what’s the strongest Z character, they didnt exist in Z. Strongest character in Z is without a doubt Vegito. Strongest non fusion one is Mystic Gohan.
Tbh,i think gogeta because the movie scalings are broken and and and the goku and the vegeta in it are much stronger than the buu saga well of course i dont think either of them is close to vegito in the buu arc but they are much stronger than themselves when they fused to vegito thats just a theory,a dragon ball theory
I’d put Broly as the weakest of them as I don’t even consider him the strongest Z villain. That would be Janemba and Higuridan. End of Z Goku in third place, Gogeta in second and Vegito in first
Meanwhile the actual movies: By movie 11 Broly's considered basically fodder. He rampaged in Hell and Goku and Pikkon just negative diffed him. Some guides even say Goku killed him again by himself. Fusion Reborn shows Paragus, meaning Broly did exist in that film and Goku says Janemba> Which puts Gogeta>>>>Broly And Vegito>Gogeta so
In my opinion it’s gogeta. Shaking hell? Ssj3 was getting toyed with by Janemba, but gogeta 1 shotting him in 2 seconds? Even the south galaxy feat doesn’t scale to that
“As the strongest farmer, Goat with a shotgun, fought the fraud, the Potara fusion, he began to open up his Domain. Fraudgito shrunk back in fear, then Farmer said… “Stand proud, Vegito. You are strong.”
actually you got different things wrong, especially with the Vegito vs Gogeta part as most of the sources you use for Vegito say Gogeta is the strongest fusion character etc...
@@lonkstakes no, the furigana for some scans remain the same between Gogeta and Vegito(above Gattai) and some call him the ultimate super warrior so Idk how much it helps your case
Ultimate gohan is the strongest unfused character in Z. Thus he's stronger than Broly. This statemenr was by akira toriyama himself so I'd take that over some movie writer.
@@lonkstakesthe footage speaks for itself Goku wanted no smoke with superbuu who Gohan beat with no energy blasts, if Gohan kept up his training post buu fight he's stronger than anyone outside of fusions maybe even stronger than any fusion.
Good video man The one I disagree with is broly cause personally due to his feats and his statements being a bit iffy not to throw shade or anything don’t harass people that ain’t cool but I’m fine with putting him above eoz goku but I don’t think he’s above gogeta but this is my opinion you can disagree idc
So here's my thinking: Ssj3 Goku shakes afterlife, putting him at universal. There is no exact amount for how powerful Super Gogeta is compared to ssj3 Goku, but i would say its fair to say that Base Gogeta would be stronger, than multiply 50 for Super Saiyan. But lets lowball and say 12x based on a scan saying Gogeta is dozens of times stronger than their counterparts (I hope im remembering that correctly) then Super Gogeta is anywhere from 12 to 24x universal. From a numbers standpoint, Gogeta is vastly superior to anything in Z, even being lowballed. I think scans are decently inconsistent when compared to numbers and feats.
I’m pretty sure that janemba was also called the strongest villain in the movies. Putting him above Broly who got dominated by two kids. Not to mention Gogeta literally one taps that dude. Now Vegito and Gogeta well…. Imo they are equal cause the Toriyama said that more than once but putting Broly above Gogeta feels like a crime
If we talk about GT Uub who has been trained by Goku for years I could see a case for EoZ Goku's strenght, but people thinking that the malnourished Z Uub with no prior proper battle experience WHATSOEVER has the same strenght as Kid Buu (= SSJ3) is not just reaching, its plainly delusional. But who cares, right? With the placement of DBS being before EoZ as an excuse its difficult to say that EoZ Goku couldn't technically be the strongest character. The problem is though, and everyone can correct me on this, does the EoZ we know of even happen after the Super Hero arc, because honestly, I haven't seen anything indicating that to be 100% be the case yet. Why did Dragon Ball had to become so jumbled up with their continuities. I'm still hopeful for Daima which takes place between the defeat of Kid Buu and Beerus waking up. After that? I don't even know if there will be more Dragon ball unless maybe as games, since Japan has a tradition of honouring the closure of things when their creator leaves the world...
@Blessed_Strayder 😂wat are you smoking? You do know what you just said? Lemme tell you what you basically said, "Without any life energy or powers, Hercule is the strongest" So basically you said if everyone was dead and didn't use powers, Hercule is the strongest 😂 Life energy is Ki and Ki is how their strength is interpreted even Hercule has Ki he jus can't use it like others 😂
Yh no this was Objectively wrong, broly the first 1 out 😂, so lemme jus quickly fix this Super Gogeta >= End of Z Goku > Super Vegito > Broly Now here's why Super Gogeta is so strong he 1 shot all the evil in mortal History 😶, this same Evil can bridge the gap between life and death and remember Ssj3 Goku during this movie shook hell which is a transcendental realm to the living world/Universe making it a much higher feat than Universal 😂, Hence Gogeta the strongest then u got End of Z Goku cuz not only does he claim Uub to be the reincarnation of Kid buu but he's power is relative to him it's just that he can't use all of his latent power to it's peak, meaning at his strongest he's relative to Base Goku and with ssj3 he's 400x stronger than kid buu, and Vegito gets 3rd cuz he fought Buuhan who was going to destroy the universe by stacking dimensions on top of each other this excludes the afterlife as they didn't feel anything this is only referring to all the dimensions in the living world mostly referring to dead zone, mortal Universe, time chamber, demon realm etc all the lower realms, and Kid buu is stated to be stronger than all other buu so u can take this as is or take it with a grain of salt and say he's the most deadly buu not strongest this would mean buuhan still the strongest and Vegito is above that and ssj2 End of Z Goku is relative to that bare minimum meaning he's 4x stronger with ssj3 so End of Z is the 2nd strongest and Super buu 3rd cuz he has the power to destroy Buuhan but he was messing around with Buuhan so they're not really that relative in strength, and Z broly last cuz his best feat is Destroying a galexy and best statements are being able to destroy the Universe which is referring to the mortal Universe which Buuhan can destroy with a scream, Gogeta can destroy it from the afterlife and lit up an entire galexy whilst being dead 😂, and end of Z Goku on par with kid Buu who was going to destroy the grand kai plannet which is above the living Universe aswell, Yh 1st place and last place is set in stone whilst 2nd and 3rd can be debated, Gogeta, End of Z, Vegito, broly that's the list
Alright hear me out gogeta arguably one shots kid buu, Z BROLY, cell, and frieza. All for the simple fact of what soul punisher does to the person hit, so since soul punisher cleans all evil from the person who is hit and since frieza, kid buu, z broly, and cell are all evil it would theoretically one shot all.
You said that Janemba is stronger than other movie villains but then ranked Broly above Gogeta. I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Either way, I don't mind beause my boi Vegito is number 1, baby.
Naw, Bulmchi (Bulma + Chi Chi via potara) wins by a mile. The only two characters consistently capable of taming Vegeta and Goku. Therefore Bulmchi beats Vegito as well.
100% eoz goku their is way more statements and didnt even bring up any gt he should be stronger than gt goku. goku light work also broly the ssj that got beat up before ssj2 i cant say bros the strongest piccalo has ssj statements and for the time he cant be the strongest hell buu even has more feats and statements then broly you went off one statement and if so goku is uni during the fight with frieza like that dosent make sense and cells power is actually INFINITE cmon broly is weak as hell compared to eoz characters
Lonks the DvD for the Bio Broly movie that Bio Broly is the strongest sayian in history and more dreadful then ever. You should’ve put Bio Broly at 1 or 2. If he’s stated to be the strongest sayian then he would be the fastest sayian since Speed=Power.
The broly wank is out of freaking control broly would not even beat buu saga goku or vegeta individually like teen SS2 gohan literally one shot characters as strong as who broly fought. But all of a sudden he can take on the fusion of goku and vegeta? You dropped your 🧢
Hes only basing them on claims If we're talking about power scaling 1.Gogeta should be stronger. movie characters are busted plus hes stronger thn ssj3 Goku ssj3Goku
0:52 zeno grand priest most likely arale since Akira tourama himself is just a avatar so he shouldn't count though if he does the strongest character is arale who can even orveride tori bots powers of being a cretor and can also write her own nartove into a story where she simple was erased both from existice and the nartive she's that much stronger so you're an idiot if you're anwsers aren't toribot or arale
Dats crazy puttin Goku last. Even so, Dragon Ball super actually makes Goku so much more powerful. That end of the Goku’s is basically God to your power level approaching angelic power level in his base form. And Uub is stronger than this version of Goku. all Goku needs to do is transform and it puts him way above Uub. But still.. The fusion warriors Vegito and Gogeta have character flaw. They don’t take the fight as seriously as they should, due to that somethings going to happen. Broly is the strongest in his movie, not throughout the entire movie verse. It’s no different than when Stanley was alive and he said that every single marvel superhero was his favorite. It’s under that and people are taking that seriously in regards to the person Koyama. It’s not that he did the same thing but he’s talking about Broly in the same type of way. He supposed to promote it he supposed to say nothing but positive things about it because he was primarily involved with the project of movie Broly DBZ Broly to be specific.
I was toying with the idea of EoZ Goku being the strongest, because of how crazy the power boosts are between arcs. So a 10 year skip of Goku getting that next powerup plus having time to try and master SSJ3 like he did SSJ1&2 should be significant. However, the main issue is that nothing happens in those 10 years. So while there would be story arc boosts, most of the significant powerups come from a conflict. Because of the significance in the story, it feels like Vegito should be #1 over the movie characters. That's strictly from a "feels over facts" standpoint, but I'm glad an argument can be made to back it up.
Base goku in fusion Reborn also has infinite speed as travels from other world in seconds by flying even though the otherworld is stated to be infinite
Matter of fact, this is ALL WRONG. Broly being stated “being the strongest” was retconned not once, BUT 2 times. The first being him (broly’s creator) admitting he was biased about him and telling that actually every movie villain is stronger than the last. So even Bojack is stronger than Broly(until second coming). Then regarding Vegito and Gogeta, since the movies character are usually way stronger than normal that puts him above Vegito alone since they are equal. But if we count that at the time tha Potara Fusion was permanent, he could win by timer. And about end of Z Goku, yeah thats pretty accurate. So the scale would be 1/2 Gogeta/Vegito 3 Goku (End of Z) 4 Broly
Everyone knows its Hercule
Nah kratos
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg Whats a polar bear doing in arlington texas????
Naw man it's definitely Goku Jr.
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg kratos gets stomped by kid buu
Farmer with a shotgun is a close second
Farmer with a shotgun: nah i’d win.
Stand proud Gogeta, you are strong
@@lonkstakes “Are these… tears?”
@@kirbyof590stars good question, i wouldn't know that
I have an arguement for my main man Goku end of Z. The power of Plot Armor is underrated.
you could argue EOZ goku over vegito by saying that base goku is equal if not greater than ssj3 goku from the kid buu fight through his fight with uub (depending on if you think uub is equal to kid buu or if you think goku is holding back against uub) vegito is stated to be equal in base to ssj3 goku from the buu arc. with this you could say that goku got at least 400 times stronger over the time skip making him equal to base vegito and has higher transformations (as far as we know. vegito probably has access to ssj2 and ssj3 they are just never shown) there is an even better case for EOZ goku if you think fusion is A + B x 100 = C which would make vegito only equal to 200x goku as opposed to 400x in base if you think goku and vegeta are relative in the buu arc
Broly being carried by one off statements is hilarious
It’s very Broly of him
Because they give him a very small sandbox to play in, and his playtime is only put to an end by plot convenience/contrivance.
@@lonkstakesHe is Videl level
Not just statements tho. It's also feats. Which is more than most others. It shows him in Broly 1 destroying 1/4 the Universe. While restricted via the necklace so restricted SSJ at best. No legend form since it breaks the device.
Restricted SSJ Broly was relative but able to be hurt by Base Goku while he was forcibly surpressed
Bro got beaten by Super Saiyans bro i aint buying any of his glazing😂even if its by his creator
The title “the angel born in hell” is actually a 10x power boost from simply how cool it is, making Goatgeta the strongest
But vegito is hot so he wins
1. THE CHAMP
2. Farmer with a shotgun
3. Vegito
4. Arale
Farmer with a shot gun
Hercule
Arale
End of z goku
arale beats all every character
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 End of Z Goku>Arale, stated by Toriyama
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot never heard of that but it's wrong
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 its not
Ultra Instinct Ego Vegitogeta. With tail.
the name would be Gogito
With his Ikari form.
(Gohan absorbed)
Sam sulek ultra ego lift
@@Speedpunk650 Or Gogerot if…… yea Vegerot really couldn’t be pronounced in any way that sounds good compared to Vegetto.
You know what the craziest thing is,if we assume that broly destroyed south galexy as a suppressed super saiyan,and he’s stronger in every movie (yes he’s at his strongest in bio broly),and goten and trunks are even able to do something to him,the boys in bio broly low key are swapping hands with kid buu from the anime
Maybe. Broly is lowkey holding back the entire time in every movie
@@lonkstakes Nah, Videl is universal you can't convince me otherwise.
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot multiversal
@@lonkstakeshow was he holding back?
Well it showed goten and trunks without trying was dodging and blocking multiple cell jr so i believe it
Koyama try not to Glaze Broly Challenge(impossible) also remember that in Z Vegito has no timer so his fusion is infinite (thought its worth mentioning) also i completely agree that power scalers are just harassing Koyama and need to leave this man alone.
I personally disagree with the ranking put in this video but i see where you are coming from.
Are we really saying Gogeta is weaker than Broly when his strongest Z appearance showed Goten and Trunks running hands with the worlds strongest Muk and _not_ imploding in one shot? And I don't know how much powerscalers care about theoretical possibilities, but even if Bio Broly is even remotely comparable to Super Gogeta, there really is no reason why Gogeta can't use Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and erase the fcker by cracking his knuckles with malicious intent.
Fr I agree with vegito being the strongest but Broly over gogeta is just wild 😂
That just means Goten and Trunks from Bio Broly are also stronger than Gogeta from Fusion reborn
@@killersan6857 it really isnt people just cant comprehend that coolness =/= power ,they cant accept such things as Goten > Gogeta cuz they 1.dont understand movies take place in different timelines 2.Dont understand how powerscaling works
@@srnova9486bro are you saying ssj3 goku< goten and trunks?
@@Big.E.02 yeah,bio broly goten and trunks specifically are stronger than fusion reborn ssj 3 goku
Real truthers know broly is a janemba victim🗣🗣🔥🔥
I aint a truther then
@@lonkstakes Imo Mrperfectcell has a good video going over it,id recommend it
Broly would obliterate jameba in his ssj form alone. Do you hear how foul his language is? Bro is more evil than janemba he would smash his face into a wall while telling him his mother dosen't love him. And dont get me started ong LSSJ oh nah even power wise lssj is stronger than janemba bust loses to gogeta because soul punisher or spirit bomb
@@crashtime3429this is so cringey, and hard to understand.
@@crashtime3429tell me you didn’t watch the movies without telling me you didn’t watch the movies. It’s true what they say. Dragon ball fans haven’t even seen their own show(in this case specifically, their own movies)
Power scalers harassing authors and creators is cringe.
i think you forgot about the strongest character in dragon ball period. The legend herself, Arale
Nah. Goku scales above her
@@crashtime3429 true
The fact that toriyama wrote that mind fk of a character and went to say he couldnt think of anything stronger than the end of z powers.
You could make the argument that goku is literally stronger than her
@@JackRippa-bq9qobut then it was retconed by the introduction of Beerus and whis.
@@Mexican1632 i dont think it is bcz beerus is stated to just ignore gag powers in thesame ep goku fought arale
I ain't letting one random statement convince me Broly>Gogeta over what I seen in the movies that brother Broly is a fraud let Gogeta breathe on his stomach and he's toast
Its a bit more than a random statement but understandable lol
Koyama is the one who wrote the db movies who are u to tell him hes wrong? If he says brolys the strongest character in z (at least in the movie universe) then he is idk why ppl wanna deny brolys strength
@@Invisibleboy999 Broly could be the strongest if given more time but never got to that time he got defeated by a powered up ssj and 3 ssjs now that was Buu Saga but still not Gogeta at most he's mid to high Buu Saga strength I don't just go by statements from years ago I go by what literally was in the movie
@@lmAndyYT i mean we never seen broly go all out so its not like the statements is contradicted
@@Invisibleboy999 Him getting beat by super saiyans when he's possibly above Gogeta just doesn't fit to me you hit Gogeta with the son family kanemehameha and I doubt it does anything I think more is going against Broly is all
One soul punisher and it’s wraps for Broly 😂
Ironically, super broly tanked it 💀
@@ramicollo and Super broly is weaker that OG Broly( also the fact Gogeta in super is stronger that Fusion reborn)💀
@@blackfangex6813 where did you even get this information that super broly is weaker than Z broly because its false...
@@blackfangex6813 this is sad gamer…
@@blackfangex6813 in what world are you living dude
I am pretty sure Janemba is also stated to be the strongest villian in Z in one source.
He mentions that while talking about Gogeta (in terms of movies), and the Buu statements in the film implies that
Yeah but it doesn’t really make sense to put him on this list when Gogeta no diffed him
@@tales9342 But then why Broly? It's literally a contradiction to janemba being the strongest bad guy
that statement was unironically removed after Koyama said Broly is the strongest
Really good video but I'm surprised you didn't mention Hatchiyack or Arale. Since Hatchiyack is stated to be stronger than Broly (movie 8 at least) and Arale is... well Arale
I’m ngl you putting Broly over Gogeta is some special meat munching😂. Realistically Broly is a Super Perfect Cell victim😂
Yeah bro was glazing. Goku in the buu saga solos Broly. Gogeta and Vegito probably wouldn’t even need super saiyan to win.
Here's a random fun fact Gogeta has Vegeta's hairline and Vegito has Goku's hairline
Not dbs broly gogeta now games do that now
Buu's Dog is the strongest
Don't lie to yourself
You know it to be true
We all know Bee is short for Beerus Level Threat.
@@jonolivier9126 Just you wait 'till he trains, Black Frieza has got something coming
EoGT is a fucking menace. He trained so hard that he fought literal universe level demigods in his natural form and then trained for 100 more years. Dude stomps golden frieza in his base, like, 100 years of training is ridiculous for a Saiyan
Bio broly is NOT the Strongest version of Z Broly. Second Coming Broly one shots Bio Broly. Hell even first movie broly wins
1. Who he fought: Ssj goten, Ssj trunks, Android 18 and KRILLIN
(None of these characters are teen gohan level and first movie broly destroyed him. Also bio broly is always in LSSJ. In bio broly they are seen making bio broly cough blood while they were deal zero damage to Super Saiyan Broly in second coming (And there is no way goten and trunks got a zenkai so bullshitingly large that in bio broly they are as strong a ssj2 gohan). And Ssj Broly is stronger than ssj buu saga goku as stated by guides and daizenshus. And second coming broly manhandled a ss2 gohan who never stopped training after cell,
Remember second coming gohan and buu saga gohan are different timelines. goten and trunks are nowhere near second coming ssj2 gohan.)
2. The Guides and daizenshus often compare Bio Broly to first movie broly.
(More specifically Restrained Super Saiyan Broly from the first broly movie)
3. The back of the Bio Broly movie box does not state Bio Broly is the Strongest Saiyan in history. The whole "Strongest Saiyan in history" bit is referring to Broly. Not Bio Broly specifically. All the back of the box states is that he has new powers.
In conclusion the whole "Bio Broly is stronger than Second Coming Broly" is a complete and utter lie.
I also think it's Vegito because if you really think about it, being turned into chocolate and still beating Buu's ass is just another level of swagger that can never be surpassed by power scalers and Koyamas glazing.
Every DBZ character can do that above the power level of 10
@crashtime3429
??
No they can't? That feat is UNIQUE to Vegito.
@@crashtime3429 Why was Vegito the only one to FIGHT BACK and TALK to buu and beat him?
@@Tyrone96Db DB characters are resistant to hax. Like hella resistent. So for example if Goku is 2 and Vegeta is 2 and vegeta uses hakai but goku goes mui and his power increases to 4, hakai will be null and void. Thats how stupid strong DB characters are and why I also dont see why people bring up the "LN" characters like they stand a chance when goku one taps them.
Look at Majin geta he did the same thing. Babadi used Hax on Vegeta but at the time we didn't know if he let himself be controlled. but he ended up spoiling that and Goku found out. Vegeta could've easily said nah fuck that and babadi's location would've been exposed and Vegeta, angered that someone that weak would try and control him, would kill him and dabura in one blast.
@@hadouradiance3566 no its not. along as you're far superior to your opponent you have major hax resistance to the point where any hax from the opposition is null and void unless you let it happen
I didn't know someone could be this wrong 😅😅
Dam i didn't notice but ssj1 gogeta looks like such a chad in your thumbnail, like- he's so strong and handsome man what a great ass on the guy. (I stole the last line from- plagueofgripes) but seriously he does look sick!
Why are all of your arguments always based on outdated and inconsistent statements from the guides and other sources that are easily debunked by actual scaling? Your entire argument in this video was basically just "this author said this and also said that so this character is obviously the strongest". It didn't feel like you were actually trying to gauge the power of the characters in an actually logical or consistent way
It's so impossible to scale DBZ Broly properly, that idiot has some absolutely wild feats only the Buu's come close to... and he gets defeated by regular Super Saiyans... twice. There is no argument strong enough to justify getting one shot on two separate occasions by infinitely weaker opponents unless you're actually not that stronger and that's how Broly's whole mythos falls apart.
I do not believe he even stands a chance against SSJ3 Angel Goku, let alone end of Z Goku.
Makes no sense time-wise. In time wise and statement wise, It's EOZ Goku by far. The strongest Z-Movie character is Janemba (Surprisingly) due to the statement of "Movie villains get stronger with each new movie" and logically, Janemba needed a Super Saiyan Gogeta, a lot of people forget that fact.
Otherwise yeah, your opinion has valid parts alongside unvalid ones but cool, it's a good tiering.
I’m seeing names like Brolly Gogeta, the question is what’s the strongest Z character, they didnt exist in Z. Strongest character in Z is without a doubt Vegito. Strongest non fusion one is Mystic Gohan.
1. Technically beerus since hes in battle of gods which is a z movie.
2. Super gogeta from fusion reborn
3. Vegito
4. Janemba
5. Buuhan
6. Z broly 😎😎😎
Tbh,i think gogeta because the movie scalings are broken and and and the goku and the vegeta in it are much stronger than the buu saga well of course i dont think either of them is close to vegito in the buu arc but they are much stronger than themselves when they fused to vegito thats just a theory,a dragon ball theory
bruh who's out here saying broly is the strongest in z when he's getting clapped by super saiyans lmaooo
Lord slug of course
How are you gonna downplay the goat, Dr. Wheelo like that?
That’s it im leaving this channel because there is no way you put broly above gogeta even if you have any reason that’s ridiculous
I’d put Broly as the weakest of them as I don’t even consider him the strongest Z villain. That would be Janemba and Higuridan. End of Z Goku in third place, Gogeta in second and Vegito in first
Kid buu:nah I’d win
Pretty sure he'd go: "OOH OOH GRAHHH"
@@lonkstakes maybe uub?
Go Vegito go
Edit: Yayyy I'm happy althought I expected Broly to be the girst one out due to horrible feats.
KOYAMA’S LEBRON IS CRAZY WORK LMAOOO
Janemba has statements of being the strongest movie villain as well tho. You could argue him being #2
You went off of author and daizenshuu statements over actual feats?
0:53 damn... sorry bro drink some water
To me broly is the strongest man. Broly is still at super saiyan 1 😂 with infinite stamina. And bro almost clapped blue gogeta. Bro is still training
Yes yes. Thank you so much for agreeing that Vegito is the strongest. Fully agree with what you said.
Meanwhile the actual movies:
By movie 11 Broly's considered basically fodder. He rampaged in Hell and Goku and Pikkon just negative diffed him. Some guides even say Goku killed him again by himself.
Fusion Reborn shows Paragus, meaning Broly did exist in that film and Goku says Janemba>
Which puts Gogeta>>>>Broly
And Vegito>Gogeta so
In my opinion it’s gogeta. Shaking hell? Ssj3 was getting toyed with by Janemba, but gogeta 1 shotting him in 2 seconds? Even the south galaxy feat doesn’t scale to that
I'm a bit confused, if janemba is the strongest Z movie villain then how can Broly be stronger than Gogeta?
Okay you see i will watch this video
Also cool Thumbnail
dragon ball legends
1. Gogeta (movie)
2. Vegito (buu saga)
3. Eoz goku
4. Broly
DB anime power scaling is fucking wild. This is why I stick to the manga...
Tori Bot is true answer
Krillin with a nose solos
“As the strongest farmer, Goat with a shotgun, fought the fraud, the Potara fusion, he began to open up his Domain. Fraudgito shrunk back in fear, then Farmer said… “Stand proud, Vegito. You are strong.”
actually you got different things wrong, especially with the Vegito vs Gogeta part as most of the sources you use for Vegito say Gogeta is the strongest fusion character etc...
Yes, "fusion"... as in the dance
@@lonkstakes no, the furigana for some scans remain the same between Gogeta and Vegito(above Gattai) and some call him the ultimate super warrior so Idk how much it helps your case
Ultimate gohan is the strongest unfused character in Z. Thus he's stronger than Broly. This statemenr was by akira toriyama himself so I'd take that over some movie writer.
No one official has ever said that about gohan
@@lonkstakesthe footage speaks for itself Goku wanted no smoke with superbuu who Gohan beat with no energy blasts, if Gohan kept up his training post buu fight he's stronger than anyone outside of fusions maybe even stronger than any fusion.
You placed Broly in 2nd and Gogeta in 3rd after stating Janemba is the strongest movie villain. Who was defeated by Gogeta. Perfect sense imo.
Did you conveniently miss the text on the bottom of the screen where I said the statement got deleted?
@@lonkstakes I did lol, I was just listening to the audio. My apologies!
Good video man
The one I disagree with is broly cause personally due to his feats and his statements being a bit iffy not to throw shade or anything don’t harass people that ain’t cool
but I’m fine with putting him above eoz goku but I don’t think he’s above gogeta but this is my opinion you can disagree idc
So here's my thinking: Ssj3 Goku shakes afterlife, putting him at universal. There is no exact amount for how powerful Super Gogeta is compared to ssj3 Goku, but i would say its fair to say that Base Gogeta would be stronger, than multiply 50 for Super Saiyan. But lets lowball and say 12x based on a scan saying Gogeta is dozens of times stronger than their counterparts (I hope im remembering that correctly) then Super Gogeta is anywhere from 12 to 24x universal. From a numbers standpoint, Gogeta is vastly superior to anything in Z, even being lowballed. I think scans are decently inconsistent when compared to numbers and feats.
I’m pretty sure that janemba was also called the strongest villain in the movies. Putting him above Broly who got dominated by two kids. Not to mention Gogeta literally one taps that dude. Now Vegito and Gogeta well…. Imo they are equal cause the Toriyama said that more than once but putting Broly above Gogeta feels like a crime
Either Tori-Bot or his editor.
1. Gogeta
2. Broly
3. Goku
4. Vegito
Told yall it’s Vegito but yall ain’t wanna listen looking at you Gogeta fans
I've tried to let them know
@@lonkstakes you’re a real one for this
Obviously its Arale
Fact that every character art in this thumbnail is drawn by Fenyo is hilarious
they arent
1)Dai Kaioshin
2)Gohan
3)Super Buu
4)South Kaioshin
5)Pure Buu
6)Goku
7)Good Boo
8)Vegeta
9)Dabra
9)Cell
10)Piccolo
11)Android 17
12)Android 18
13)Tirn
14)Krillin
15)Yamcha
16)Trunks
17)Goten
17)King Cold
18)Frieza
Gogeta - > vegito -> SSJ3 Goku - > mystic gohan - > Super Buu - > kid Buu - > majin vegeta - > SSJ2 Teen Gohan........... And somewhen then comes Broly
its gotta be recoome
What about Burter, hes the fastest
@@lonkstakes idk man, that recoome kick is scary...
The fight is over as soon as you hear, RECOOME ULTRA SUPER FIGHTING BOMBER
If we talk about GT Uub who has been trained by Goku for years I could see a case for EoZ Goku's strenght, but people thinking that the malnourished Z Uub with no prior proper battle experience WHATSOEVER has the same strenght as Kid Buu (= SSJ3) is not just reaching, its plainly delusional.
But who cares, right? With the placement of DBS being before EoZ as an excuse its difficult to say that EoZ Goku couldn't technically be the strongest character. The problem is though, and everyone can correct me on this, does the EoZ we know of even happen after the Super Hero arc, because honestly, I haven't seen anything indicating that to be 100% be the case yet.
Why did Dragon Ball had to become so jumbled up with their continuities. I'm still hopeful for Daima which takes place between the defeat of Kid Buu and Beerus waking up. After that? I don't even know if there will be more Dragon ball unless maybe as games, since Japan has a tradition of honouring the closure of things when their creator leaves the world...
Was about to say whis but i didnt watch the video for long. oof
I precoged you, sorry 😭
@@lonkstakes lol
@Blessed_Strayder 😂wat are you smoking?
You do know what you just said?
Lemme tell you what you basically said, "Without any life energy or powers, Hercule is the strongest"
So basically you said if everyone was dead and didn't use powers, Hercule is the strongest 😂
Life energy is Ki and Ki is how their strength is interpreted even Hercule has Ki he jus can't use it like others 😂
How is Broly even in the running? He was defeated by MSSJ Goku with like, the energy of 3, maybe 4 barely conscious fighters?
Yh no this was Objectively wrong, broly the first 1 out 😂, so lemme jus quickly fix this
Super Gogeta >= End of Z Goku > Super Vegito > Broly
Now here's why Super Gogeta is so strong he 1 shot all the evil in mortal History 😶, this same Evil can bridge the gap between life and death and remember Ssj3 Goku during this movie shook hell which is a transcendental realm to the living world/Universe making it a much higher feat than Universal 😂,
Hence Gogeta the strongest then u got End of Z Goku cuz not only does he claim Uub to be the reincarnation of Kid buu but he's power is relative to him it's just that he can't use all of his latent power to it's peak, meaning at his strongest he's relative to Base Goku and with ssj3 he's 400x stronger than kid buu, and Vegito gets 3rd cuz he fought Buuhan who was going to destroy the universe by stacking dimensions on top of each other this excludes the afterlife as they didn't feel anything this is only referring to all the dimensions in the living world mostly referring to dead zone, mortal Universe, time chamber, demon realm etc all the lower realms, and Kid buu is stated to be stronger than all other buu so u can take this as is or take it with a grain of salt and say he's the most deadly buu not strongest this would mean buuhan still the strongest and Vegito is above that and ssj2 End of Z Goku is relative to that bare minimum meaning he's 4x stronger with ssj3 so End of Z is the 2nd strongest and Super buu 3rd cuz he has the power to destroy Buuhan but he was messing around with Buuhan so they're not really that relative in strength, and Z broly last cuz his best feat is Destroying a galexy and best statements are being able to destroy the Universe which is referring to the mortal Universe which Buuhan can destroy with a scream, Gogeta can destroy it from the afterlife and lit up an entire galexy whilst being dead 😂, and end of Z Goku on par with kid Buu who was going to destroy the grand kai plannet which is above the living Universe aswell,
Yh 1st place and last place is set in stone whilst 2nd and 3rd can be debated,
Gogeta, End of Z, Vegito, broly that's the list
Alright hear me out gogeta arguably one shots kid buu, Z BROLY, cell, and frieza. All for the simple fact of what soul punisher does to the person hit, so since soul punisher cleans all evil from the person who is hit and since frieza, kid buu, z broly, and cell are all evil it would theoretically one shot all.
You said that Janemba is stronger than other movie villains but then ranked Broly above Gogeta. I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Either way, I don't mind beause my boi Vegito is number 1, baby.
Naw, Bulmchi (Bulma + Chi Chi via potara) wins by a mile. The only two characters consistently capable of taming Vegeta and Goku. Therefore Bulmchi beats Vegito as well.
What about Hatchiyack? He is stated to be stronger than broly
Only stronger than Movie 8 Broly, Movie 10 Broly is much stronger.
100% eoz goku their is way more statements and didnt even bring up any gt he should be stronger than gt goku. goku light work also broly the ssj that got beat up before ssj2 i cant say bros the strongest piccalo has ssj statements and for the time he cant be the strongest hell buu even has more feats and statements then broly you went off one statement and if so goku is uni during the fight with frieza like that dosent make sense and cells power is actually INFINITE cmon broly is weak as hell compared to eoz characters
Lonks the DvD for the Bio Broly movie that Bio Broly is the strongest sayian in history and more dreadful then ever. You should’ve put Bio Broly at 1 or 2. If he’s stated to be the strongest sayian then he would be the fastest sayian since Speed=Power.
The broly wank is out of freaking control broly would not even beat buu saga goku or vegeta individually like teen SS2 gohan literally one shot characters as strong as who broly fought. But all of a sudden he can take on the fusion of goku and vegeta? You dropped your 🧢
Hes only basing them on claims
If we're talking about power scaling
1.Gogeta should be stronger. movie characters are busted plus hes stronger thn ssj3 Goku ssj3Goku
No offense but broly at best is ssj3 goku fodder
1.Vegetto
2.Gojīta
3.end of z Goku
4.Broly
0:52 zeno grand priest most likely arale since Akira tourama himself is just a avatar so he shouldn't count though if he does the strongest character is arale who can even orveride tori bots powers of being a cretor and can also write her own nartove into a story where she simple was erased both from existice and the nartive she's that much stronger so you're an idiot if you're anwsers aren't toribot or arale
Dats crazy puttin Goku last. Even so, Dragon Ball super actually makes Goku so much more powerful. That end of the Goku’s is basically God to your power level approaching angelic power level in his base form. And Uub is stronger than this version of Goku. all Goku needs to do is transform and it puts him way above Uub. But still..
The fusion warriors Vegito and Gogeta have character flaw. They don’t take the fight as seriously as they should, due to that somethings going to happen.
Broly is the strongest in his movie, not throughout the entire movie verse. It’s no different than when Stanley was alive and he said that every single marvel superhero was his favorite. It’s under that and people are taking that seriously in regards to the person Koyama. It’s not that he did the same thing but he’s talking about Broly in the same type of way. He supposed to promote it he supposed to say nothing but positive things about it because he was primarily involved with the project of movie Broly DBZ Broly to be specific.
I was toying with the idea of EoZ Goku being the strongest, because of how crazy the power boosts are between arcs. So a 10 year skip of Goku getting that next powerup plus having time to try and master SSJ3 like he did SSJ1&2 should be significant. However, the main issue is that nothing happens in those 10 years. So while there would be story arc boosts, most of the significant powerups come from a conflict.
Because of the significance in the story, it feels like Vegito should be #1 over the movie characters. That's strictly from a "feels over facts" standpoint, but I'm glad an argument can be made to back it up.
Get em past Dr Wheelo
LETS CHARGE TOGETHER AT FULL POWER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Base goku in fusion Reborn also has infinite speed as travels from other world in seconds by flying even though the otherworld is stated to be infinite
Is vegito strongest in history because gogeta wasn’t canon aka not included the history.
Beerus.
end of z goku quite literally solos… toriyama himself said end of z goku is the strongest character in Z
Matter of fact, this is ALL WRONG. Broly being stated “being the strongest” was retconned not once, BUT 2 times. The first being him (broly’s creator) admitting he was biased about him and telling that actually every movie villain is stronger than the last. So even Bojack is stronger than Broly(until second coming). Then regarding Vegito and Gogeta, since the movies character are usually way stronger than normal that puts him above Vegito alone since they are equal. But if we count that at the time tha Potara Fusion was permanent, he could win by timer.
And about end of Z Goku, yeah thats pretty accurate. So the scale would be
1/2 Gogeta/Vegito
3 Goku (End of Z)
4 Broly
weren't broli in the pod the strongest? i thought he was weakened after he got c※mmed on
You know that janemba was Atleast stronger or a little bit weaker than buuhan right? And did you see how gogeta cooked him
Does this mean goten trunks and krillin are stronger than gogeta🤔
Z Broly is the most overrated character in all of Dragon ball. He scales to the cell saga era and is no where close to the other people on this list
I can't with db fans anymore. People still think Jiren from the t.o.p is stronger then moro
Z broly is the equivalent of kid buu if he was a sayian and on meth and Crack and out for the taste of blood
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Great video man but we all know the strongest is demon King dabura
You forgot the actual two strongest characters farmer with shotgun and Mr Satan