Thank you for the great review, I agree to all your assumptions. Except it is more than decent looking 😉 I have tried both the original and the lite version. The lite is WARM. The original will be overkill if you are not going to be stationary for a long time or in very very cold conditions. Also, the original has a wider cut und feels a lot more restrictive in movement, due to the double layer and longer construction. It feels more different than the specs suggest. The lite is perfect for me, which is European winter conditions up to -15 degrees.
Sweet. I recommend buying some special laundry detergent for down jackets as well. A couple brands out their are Grangers or Nikwax. Good to wash at least once at the end of the season to maintain the jackets loft and warmth.
Great review. Thanks for the fit section. Helped me decide. I’m 5’9 maybe 5’10 and 150 so I’ll be going for the small. Wasn’t sure which to get before this review
Will, thank you for this informative review of the Expedition jacket, it makes me want to get one! Please work on not upspeaking. It's an affectation that makes you sound as if you're unsure & questioning what you're saying ✌️
I live in Stockholm, Sweden and the temp here is usually 0 C to -16 C during winter time. It's perfect weather for this jacket in my opinion. The only pity thing is that you can't remove the hood of this jacket but I think it's not so often you need to do that anyways. :) Totally worth the money if you get it on discount. It's really really pricey here in Sweden.... Too much. I don't think it's worth 7k SEK. Perhaps maximum 3 or 4k SEK, that's it. The overprice is for the brand I think. I mean: I like the fact that Fjällräven is Swedish and totally support the national brand even though they produce it in China & Vietnam or whatsoever but it should not cost as much as a Moncler or any other "super fashion" brand.
Great review, thanks! It's funny though, here in Sweden the Canadian Goose jackets are (or atleast were) considered to be THE premium winter jacket brand. Fjällräven has obviously had a great marketing campaign internationally to reach this brand recognition. They are also quite popular here in Sweden, although they're at least as expensive here as they seem to be in Canada. When us swedes that are now in our middle age we're growing up in the early '80's, pretty much everyone had a Fjällräven backpack to school (the model called Kånken) and it was not at all considered as premium as they are now. I'd say at least three out of four kids came to school in a Fjällräven Kånken (perhaps it was not as popular in southern Sweden as it were in the north, though. Fjällräven is made in Örnsköldsvik, a northern city) Keep up the good work!
I also have this jacket and honestly I’m not sure if it’s worth the price. I got it on special for 400$ cad. I think only time will tell if it was worth it - because of durability. If it lasts then great and if not then I’ll have wished to have spent 150-200 on a cheaper coat that wouldve been probably warmer but cheaper… but nonetheless I love how cozy and light this jacket is, and I love how it looks. I don’t know if you’ve had this issue: the down seems to really move around so sometimes there are spots that have me asking where the down went because they do not feel fluffy anymore…
@@WillFaulkner ah ok word. After checking other options, i think the expedition lite is actually worth it. When it came down to it there were no cheaper options that seemed to have the same quality…
@@mathieucharbonneau2710 Yea there are cheaper options like Uniqlo or Decathalon but the quality won't be there. I think the most comparable will be something from RAB which will have a similar price tag.
I think this coat is worth the price on sale. I got mine for $335 CAD and for that price you can't find a warmer coat. 415g of 700 down is equivalent to 360g or 800 down, which will cost you $400+ with any other brand. The only other coat that would be similar in warmth for under $400 would be The North Face Mcmurdo Parka when on sale for ~$350 (I tried it on and it's sleeves are too short for me). I got this coat to replace a 10 year old $600 North Face Summit Series coat with 800 pro down, and this Fjallraven coat seems warmer and more durable. All down coats will have the issue of the down moving around leaving empty spots, you need to put the coat in a dryer at minimum heat with some tennis balls to fluff it back up. I had to do this every few months with my North Face coat. Keep in mind that doing this too much or for too long or at too high of heat will damage the coat over time.
Mine sadly has a different label.. Instead the 1974 history of the jacket label I have the down promise Label. Bought from Fjaellraeven so it's authentic.. I emailed them if they could send me the 1974 label.... The jacket is a legend and it's sad they replaced the label... Craftsmanship as always is amazing... It will last forever
Indeed ,it is a legendary jacket,unlike other jackets that do not last over time ,l recently bought it ,the new product is green on the outside and yellow on the inside,You feel as if you are wearing an electric heater ,the warmth is truly legendary
Canada goose is a fashion brand, i would not expect them to list the finer details.95% of the brands of technical clothing list them very details. The downfall of Fjallraven is the g100 and the magic waxing sham, other than the very very high price tags. Just look at the kracken bag, a bag that should and could cost 1/4 the rrp. Soon Fjallraven will be a fashion brand just like Arcteryx has become.
I agree. The kracken bag is more of a style thing that is popular because it's been around so long, but I do think they make some quality gear still. Even Canada Goose does (maybe its changed recently) make high quality jackets for northern canada, but also has more popular jackets meant for urban style. The Canada Goose Snow Mantra for example which is not really a fashion jacket, its pretty much a hardcore parka but should ideally have the down specs.
I actually like all my g1000 garments from Fjällräven. Especially on high activity stuff like hiking. Most people understand the wax completely wrong. It’s not supposed to make anything waterproof just more water repellent and give some more wind resistance.
@@sebulban Please forgive my as I'm a lil skeptical. G1000 is nothing special, Fjallraven did not invent or discover g1000 as it already existed as a tent material. Can a cotton/poly mix be anything special anyway, considering a 65/35 poly/cotton mix is pretty standard. If greenland wax was anything special then people would be using it on non fjallraven gear, and as absolutely nobody is using it for non fjallraven gear. As the greenland wax washes off in the washing machine, or a heavy rain shower puts it in my "pretty useless cupboard". It is a bit like the argument for Paramo being better than gortex. But in order for it to be better than gortex you need to apply the special nikwax spray. Surprise surprise even the paramo saleperson will tell you that you will get wet in paramo before goretex, but its better wink* wink* I had a good long hard look at the keb trousers, great looking pants,great features. massive price, and they insult their customers by forcing them to take the brand new trousers to a pro dressmaker to take up and finish the raw length jeans at a cost of £50. If i could describe Fjallraven in just 2 words, sadly them 2 words are "rip" and "off".
These days there are many other options. But you have to consider how long they have producing that material, and to this date, nothing else comes close. The cut is great and they are robust, very. If I am hiking waterproof pants will be too much in most situation and lead the overheating. The wax gives the possibility to apply as needed. And if you don’t need it, that is fine too. I mostly use them without the wax.
@@archie2archie i was also. Until i bought my first g1000 garments. I have more than 10 goretex shells from marmot, norrona, haglöfs, gore etc and they are all really good at their respected use cases. 9/10 times i still choose my keb jacket and regular or touring pants. They are super comfy and body heat regulation is super easy. On multiday hiking trips i’ll always keep my gorestuff in a dry sack. I never wear them while hiking as i want to keep something that’ll keep me dry & warm on camp site. Goretex is supergood for waterproofing and hence i keep it with me for safety reasons. For high activity stuff it’s the most uncomfortable gear I know and it takes forever to dry.
What brand would you say is durable then? In general, most companies have decrease in quality over the years and it is hard to truly find a brand that maintains that with paying insane prices.
@@frankcouper9377 Have you gotten any more recent items? From what I have read on reddit, companies that had great products even in 2010 have gone down hill in terms of durability.
The cinch string was the deal breaker for me....those yellow bootlaces hanging down are annoying and a pain to tie back up and out of the way.....yes, easier to replace but still, a strange design choice
Yea I totally get that. It would be nice if there was a way to tuck them into the inside of the jacket or something. What jacket did you end up going with instead?
How cold does it have to be? My snowboard bindings for example are plastic and they have never cracked or anything. I feel like that is in extreme cold we probably don't experience on earth. Do you have an example?
I would never invest into foreign brands. The reason is they will never ever have better customer support. As much as I like Fjallraven products , if anything happens with Fjallraven jacket, I can't simply send it back to the factory , I can't connect with the dressmaker directly to explain what I want to repair etc. For example, in my country I buy a sleeping bag from a local manufacturer , whenever I need , I can send it back to wash it properly or make the waterproofing again.
Fjallraven are marketing geniuses. They are perceived as the "durable and sustainable" ones when compared to arcteryx, even though arcteryx is more durable and sustainable. Fjallraven is all about perceptions, their eco-claims are oftentimes just bunch of air.
Thank you for the great review, I agree to all your assumptions. Except it is more than decent looking 😉
I have tried both the original and the lite version. The lite is WARM. The original will be overkill if you are not going to be stationary for a long time or in very very cold conditions. Also, the original has a wider cut und feels a lot more restrictive in movement, due to the double layer and longer construction. It feels more different than the specs suggest. The lite is perfect for me, which is European winter conditions up to -15 degrees.
Totally agree!
I bought this jacket today because of your review and I love it it’s awesome the best jacket I ever owned
Sweet. I recommend buying some special laundry detergent for down jackets as well. A couple brands out their are Grangers or Nikwax. Good to wash at least once at the end of the season to maintain the jackets loft and warmth.
Me too on Urban Outfitters with 50 percent off 😅
Great review. Thanks for the fit section. Helped me decide. I’m 5’9 maybe 5’10 and 150 so I’ll be going for the small. Wasn’t sure which to get before this review
Will, thank you for this informative review of the Expedition jacket, it makes me want to get one! Please work on not upspeaking. It's an affectation that makes you sound as if you're unsure & questioning what you're saying ✌️
Thanks for the Advice I appreciate it! I'm hoping that continuing to make videos will help with my public speaking skills.
Thanks for the review. I ordered one and I live in Sweden where the temperature drops to -15 lowest in my region
I live in Stockholm, Sweden and the temp here is usually 0 C to -16 C during winter time. It's perfect weather for this jacket in my opinion. The only pity thing is that you can't remove the hood of this jacket but I think it's not so often you need to do that anyways. :)
Totally worth the money if you get it on discount. It's really really pricey here in Sweden.... Too much. I don't think it's worth 7k SEK. Perhaps maximum 3 or 4k SEK, that's it.
The overprice is for the brand I think.
I mean: I like the fact that Fjällräven is Swedish and totally support the national brand even though they produce it in China & Vietnam or whatsoever but it should not cost as much as a Moncler or any other "super fashion" brand.
Yea I agree, getting it at a good discount makes it worth it
@@WillFaulknergreat review thanks. Did you find the sizing on the small size compared to the majors?
Great review, thanks!
It's funny though, here in Sweden the Canadian Goose jackets are (or atleast were) considered to be THE premium winter jacket brand. Fjällräven has obviously had a great marketing campaign internationally to reach this brand recognition. They are also quite popular here in Sweden, although they're at least as expensive here as they seem to be in Canada.
When us swedes that are now in our middle age we're growing up in the early '80's, pretty much everyone had a Fjällräven backpack to school (the model called Kånken) and it was not at all considered as premium as they are now. I'd say at least three out of four kids came to school in a Fjällräven Kånken (perhaps it was not as popular in southern Sweden as it were in the north, though. Fjällräven is made in Örnsköldsvik, a northern city)
Keep up the good work!
Thanks !
Great review. Please do a review on the crazy levity down jacket. Thanks!
Nice video , can you tell what size is the jacket and how tall are you ?
Great review! Ordered one after this.
Hope you enjoy it!
Great Jacket, got one in Basalt, it’s great go german winters 😊
super helpful review! thanks! qq you've mentioned your `big winter jacket`, what is that?
Right now I'm using the 66north parka. I did a review on it as well.
Thanks for your review!
European here and i have to say it‘s spelled more like [fiell] not [fall]
Yea I've heard it said that way in other videos I've watched. When it came time to record myself, I reverted back to how we normally say it in Canada.
For the record, I'm also Canadian and don't know anyone who says "Fallraven" 😁
I also have this jacket and honestly I’m not sure if it’s worth the price. I got it on special for 400$ cad. I think only time will tell if it was worth it - because of durability. If it lasts then great and if not then I’ll have wished to have spent 150-200 on a cheaper coat that wouldve been probably warmer but cheaper… but nonetheless I love how cozy and light this jacket is, and I love how it looks. I don’t know if you’ve had this issue: the down seems to really move around so sometimes there are spots that have me asking where the down went because they do not feel fluffy anymore…
No I haven’t had that issue yet. Depending how long you’ve had it, maybe it needs a wash or whatever to re loft it.
@@WillFaulkner ah ok word. After checking other options, i think the expedition lite is actually worth it. When it came down to it there were no cheaper options that seemed to have the same quality…
@@mathieucharbonneau2710 Yea there are cheaper options like Uniqlo or Decathalon but the quality won't be there. I think the most comparable will be something from RAB which will have a similar price tag.
I think this coat is worth the price on sale. I got mine for $335 CAD and for that price you can't find a warmer coat. 415g of 700 down is equivalent to 360g or 800 down, which will cost you $400+ with any other brand. The only other coat that would be similar in warmth for under $400 would be The North Face Mcmurdo Parka when on sale for ~$350 (I tried it on and it's sleeves are too short for me). I got this coat to replace a 10 year old $600 North Face Summit Series coat with 800 pro down, and this Fjallraven coat seems warmer and more durable. All down coats will have the issue of the down moving around leaving empty spots, you need to put the coat in a dryer at minimum heat with some tennis balls to fluff it back up. I had to do this every few months with my North Face coat. Keep in mind that doing this too much or for too long or at too high of heat will damage the coat over time.
How can this not be warm? It’s got over 400g of 700 fill which is a huge amount of down
Great review thanks! I found it very useful!
Mine sadly has a different label.. Instead the 1974 history of the jacket label I have the down promise Label. Bought from Fjaellraeven so it's authentic.. I emailed them if they could send me the 1974 label.... The jacket is a legend and it's sad they replaced the label... Craftsmanship as always is amazing... It will last forever
Indeed ,it is a legendary jacket,unlike other jackets that do not last over time ,l recently bought it ,the new product is green on the outside and yellow on the inside,You feel as if you are wearing an electric heater ,the warmth is truly legendary
Thanks for your review, Amazing jacket
this is super helpful when picking jackets for this brand!
No problem!
Great review! Are u in Ottawa area?
Yup
The ‘string’ is actually a hockey skate lace
Thanks for pointing that out!
Excellent review. Considering other brands but this is it. Tx
Hi, what is your height? Yours jacket fitting well, Ive got 180 cm heigh and I try buy not too big.
I’m about 188cm
The length will be fine regardless I think. More so depends on your weight.
@@WillFaulkner 72kg, I think I need size S
@@elfonzo4298 Yea I think the size small would be fine.
@@WillFaulkner Hey I have a similar question : I'm 1.80 but weigh 100kg , L should fit right ?
You should try peak performance frost down the thicker jacket
Great review, well done
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words.
Canada goose is a fashion brand, i would not expect them to list the finer details.95% of the brands of technical clothing list them very details. The downfall of Fjallraven is the g100 and the magic waxing sham, other than the very very high price tags. Just look at the kracken bag, a bag that should and could cost 1/4 the rrp. Soon Fjallraven will be a fashion brand just like Arcteryx has become.
I agree. The kracken bag is more of a style thing that is popular because it's been around so long, but I do think they make some quality gear still. Even Canada Goose does (maybe its changed recently) make high quality jackets for northern canada, but also has more popular jackets meant for urban style. The Canada Goose Snow Mantra for example which is not really a fashion jacket, its pretty much a hardcore parka but should ideally have the down specs.
I actually like all my g1000 garments from Fjällräven. Especially on high activity stuff like hiking. Most people understand the wax completely wrong. It’s not supposed to make anything waterproof just more water repellent and give some more wind resistance.
@@sebulban Please forgive my as I'm a lil skeptical. G1000 is nothing special, Fjallraven did not invent or discover g1000 as it already existed as a tent material. Can a cotton/poly mix be anything special anyway, considering a 65/35 poly/cotton mix is pretty standard. If greenland wax was anything special then people would be using it on non fjallraven gear, and as absolutely nobody is using it for non fjallraven gear. As the greenland wax washes off in the washing machine, or a heavy rain shower puts it in my "pretty useless cupboard". It is a bit like the argument for Paramo being better than gortex. But in order for it to be better than gortex you need to apply the special nikwax spray. Surprise surprise even the paramo saleperson will tell you that you will get wet in paramo before goretex, but its better wink* wink*
I had a good long hard look at the keb trousers, great looking pants,great features. massive price, and they insult their customers by forcing them to take the brand new trousers to a pro dressmaker to take up and finish the raw length jeans at a cost of £50. If i could describe Fjallraven in just 2 words, sadly them 2 words are "rip" and "off".
These days there are many other options. But you have to consider how long they have producing that material, and to this date, nothing else comes close. The cut is great and they are robust, very. If I am hiking waterproof pants will be too much in most situation and lead the overheating. The wax gives the possibility to apply as needed. And if you don’t need it, that is fine too. I mostly use them without the wax.
@@archie2archie i was also. Until i bought my first g1000 garments. I have more than 10 goretex shells from marmot, norrona, haglöfs, gore etc and they are all really good at their respected use cases. 9/10 times i still choose my keb jacket and regular or touring pants. They are super comfy and body heat regulation is super easy.
On multiday hiking trips i’ll always keep my gorestuff in a dry sack. I never wear them while hiking as i want to keep something that’ll keep me dry & warm on camp site.
Goretex is supergood for waterproofing and hence i keep it with me for safety reasons. For high activity stuff it’s the most uncomfortable gear I know and it takes forever to dry.
Those strings are so dopey.
"Durable" is not something I'd associate with Fjallraven, given my experiences with the brand.
What brand would you say is durable then? In general, most companies have decrease in quality over the years and it is hard to truly find a brand that maintains that with paying insane prices.
@Will
I've had zero issues with Norrona with regard to durability. I own some of their pieces from 2010, and they are still in great condition.
@@frankcouper9377 Have you gotten any more recent items? From what I have read on reddit, companies that had great products even in 2010 have gone down hill in terms of durability.
@Will
Yup, the most recent piece was a Trollveggen powerstretch hoodie a few months ago. Well made and super warm for the weight.
@@frankcouper9377 I'll check it out!
there's no way this would keep you warm in -15. i wore it in 5 degrees with a t shirt underneath and was bloody freezing
Are you referring to Fahrenheit? -15 Celsius is the same at 5 Fahrenheit
@@WillFaulkner yes sorry, still think it's not very warm though
@@keverton123How? 400 plus g of 700 fill is a huge amount of down
The cinch string was the deal breaker for me....those yellow bootlaces hanging down are annoying and a pain to tie back up and out of the way.....yes, easier to replace but still, a strange design choice
Yea I totally get that. It would be nice if there was a way to tuck them into the inside of the jacket or something.
What jacket did you end up going with instead?
whoever green lit that hoodie string needs to be fired.
this is your transitional jacket?
Well depends how cold it gets where you live. For a lot of people, this would be plenty good a a winter jacket.
Plastic gets brittle when it's really cold
How cold does it have to be? My snowboard bindings for example are plastic and they have never cracked or anything. I feel like that is in extreme cold we probably don't experience on earth.
Do you have an example?
How tall you are?
6'1
are you planning on doing some more videos soon? really enjoying your reviews@@WillFaulkner
as a lot of other people do also, as is apparent from your view numbers
@@Lbvg Now that winter is coming, the stores around me are getting in more jackets so I hope to do some more reviews.
Hold the jacket up so I can see it
I would never invest into foreign brands. The reason is they will never ever have better customer support. As much as I like Fjallraven products , if anything happens with Fjallraven jacket, I can't simply send it back to the factory , I can't connect with the dressmaker directly to explain what I want to repair etc. For example, in my country I buy a sleeping bag from a local manufacturer , whenever I need , I can send it back to wash it properly or make the waterproofing again.
Yea that could be an issue. There are Fjallraven stores in Canada luckily so I can go talk to someone directly.
decathalon trek 100 down jacket. 80 dollars.
That is a great budget backpacking jacket. It however fits a much different purpose to this jacket, which will be much warmer and heavier.
@@WillFaulkner agreed!
What is the price of apples compared to the price of oranges ?
Fjallraven are marketing geniuses. They are perceived as the "durable and sustainable" ones when compared to arcteryx, even though arcteryx is more durable and sustainable. Fjallraven is all about perceptions, their eco-claims are oftentimes just bunch of air.
How many other companies use 100% traceable down ?
@@johnlangevin708 Like all of them at this point. Every major and minor brand has RDS these days. Its an industry standard.
@@alexbarcovsky4319 I do not think that is true.
It is easy to claim things that they do not this or that, can you please prove it ?
@@johnlangevin708 Burden of proof is on you. Show me one mainstream brand without RDS.