Out of curiosity, what's brought you here? Are you looking for your first down jacket or are you after a replacement for an older one? If you're current on is damaged, you might want to check out our guide to repairing a torn jacket: ua-cam.com/video/N4g1uJKmCX4/v-deo.html&feature=emb_title Will
Was looking for a review on the arcteryx alpha parka. There is exceedingly little information about it out there, and I don't just mean specs. Would be awesome if you guys did a video on it!
I'm not really a walker but I am a sports photographer and have to endure the best of our British weather. I bought a Rab Valiance as l needed both warmth and something waterproof. Great content.
As I just relplaced 2 jackets this year I know benefits/comprompises/price/fit all play a part. For me: Late fall is an Arcteryx Cerium sv, winter Fjallraven exp lite. Other things to consider: outer D rating, pockets, cut, wrist opening, and zippers. Thanks for the tips.
If you want some really warm jackets for extremely cold weather then you can't forget about western mountaineering and feathered friends. Both very reputable companies with exceptional quality at a premium price.
And what about a Mountain Hardwear "Absolute Zero" or a Fjallraven "Expedition down parka no. 1" or even an Arcteryx "Cold WX parka SVX"? These all outperform the well-known Canada Goose Expedition - because that one is WAY too wide for most people here in Europe.
Wow! Nice Looking Jackets! Lot of love and great respect for your great work from a solo mountain hiker friend from the Lower Chitral District of Pakistan.
I just wear jackets casually and when i go hiking in winter, i’ve had a few over the years. The only downside is the jackets can easily be damaged so one must be careful.
And I seriously miss Nobis! Absolutely gorgeous jackets that combine real life usability (as waterproof!) with super stylish exterior materials. These look the part! My fav is the Cartel jacket.
Hi Jon. It's made it into our Top 5 in the past and is a good jacket that has rated well on our pages. We try to find a good balance in our top 5 between warmth ratings and price and it was just edged out in this instance. Will
Exactly... I just mentioned this one to someone asking about that. Unfortunately, still with "fixed hood no collar" construction... give me a Nobis Cartel anytime over this Rab.
Moncler is the best and perhaps the original. I love mine and I live pretty far north. Latitude 53. Here is a quote from Wikipedia: In 1954, Moncler quilted jackets were chosen to equip the Italian expedition to K2, which culminated with the conquest of the earth's second-highest summit by Achille Compagnoni and Lino Lacedelli.[13][14] Moncler also accompanied the French expedition which reached the summit of Makalu in 1955[15] and was the official supplier for expeditions in Alaska organised by Lionel Terray in 1964.[16] On occasion of the Grenoble Winter Olympics in 1968,[17][18] Moncler became the official supplier of the French national downhill skiing team.[17] In 1968, a cartoon duck named MonDuck was introduced as a mascot for the fashion house.[19
As a real Moncler fan (I must have 5 or 6, from the standard Maya to the extrrrremely nice "Rillieux parka" and even a down filled leather jacket) I must say: they are NOT the "best" down jackets. Until recently, NONE of these were waterproof. Last year, they finally, seriously, offered a down jacket with Gore Tex! I saw that one in the Danish Moncler store in Copenhagen. Unfortunately, the model was absolutely unsuitable for my build, otherwise I would have bought it. Jackets that are more versatile (as they are waterproof) are for example the Nobis Cartel and the The North Face McMurdo parka. These both really do a good job...
You know what? I'm seriously disappointed by this list. ANY down jacket sporting the now so often seen "fixed hood no collar" construction can be immediately written OFF my list. If you zip it up completely (which I ALWAYS do) without the hood on your head, that hood start to pull back, pulling the zipper to your throat - a VERY nasty feeling!! And... to be truly versatile, any down jacket should be WATERPROOF, and by that I mean really waterproof, with some kind of membrane in it. THAT will shift the maintream jackets from the truly, universally usable ones. The Arcteryx Camosun, the Patagonia Wanaka, the The North Face McMurdo, ANY Nobis down jacket or down parka(!) will do as they are ALL waterproof, and even the Dutch brand Gaastra came up with some really nice down jackets having a removable hood, a collar and some kind of waterproof fabric, not so strange, as their origin lies in sailing jackets. So, there you have it: 5 brands that make REALLY universally usable ones - and even with great comfort, as they ALL have a nice collar, and adaptable too, as the hood is removable.
Living in the uk, what North Face down number would suit the coldest uk winters? Personally I think uk winters are getting milder so would a 550 be ok and would a 800 be too much? How about a 700 or 750?
It also depends on the amount of down insulation. For example a 600 fill with more down will ultimately be far warmer than an 800 fill with less down. Also goose down is finer than 🦆 duck down. Another huge criteria is durability, as many jackets now employ ultralight weight fabrics that unfortunately tend to be fragile and cannot withstand heavy use. Personally I am prepared to carry that slightly heavier jacket that has strong and durable fabrics and zips.
Down fill power is part of the warmth of a jacket. The total warmth of a jacket is determined by fill power x fill weight. Fill power on its own doesn’t tell you much about a jacket. Imho, 750 to 850 is great quality down and will serve most purposes.
What parka would I need, if I just want the warmest there is, but I don't want it to look like the offspring of the Mr. Michelin-man and a trashbag? I was looking at something like the Canada Goose Snow Mantra, but it's a bit pricey - and not very nice-looking.
I'm interested in Down Jacket (that I can compress into my backpack) Solo) when I have set up camp on a Scottish mountain in severe winter conditions. What would you advize?
I need a down lite jacket with hood attached, so I searched the offers in Romania and there are only two suggestion for me, one is Columbia Delta Ridge Down Hooded jacket and there is also Jack Wolfskin Helium or Fairmont jackets. Since the winter weather here is changing from snow to rain, I'm curios which is the best protection to the water also, both been water repellent, any ideas? Thanks
NONE of the jackets proposed here is waterproof. If you can accept a fixed hood (why?? It is VERY uncomfortable if you do NOT wear the hood...) then a Rab Valiance comes to my mind. But I would take a Nobis Cartel ANYTIME over the suggested Rab, as this jacket has a comfortable collar and a removable hood!
I wore Jack Wolfskin Helium for 3 consecutive winters in Romania. It is a great and comfy jacket, looks good but not very warm if the wind blows and there are minus degrees.
Hey - thanks for the video. Really helpful reviews. However a few of these are out of my budget sadly! Do you have a down jacket recommendation that is perhaps £200 ish at the most please? I’m not a serious hiker or anything like that, but I just like to have a decent one for those v cold winter days. Thank you.
Hi. Webtogs have a bunch of good value options at the moment. I'd also take a look at the Alpkit website - they're good for quality kit at decent prices. Cimalp worth looking into too. Will
Not tried it but Montane is a good brand and the jacket looks good on paper: water resistant down, box wall baffles, and good Pertex fabrics. The down spec could be a little better - 800 fill power is OK but not great. Hope that helps. Will
The Sub Zero is no longer made. The equivalent would be the Absolute Zero, which is more for expedition use. Within this grouping, I would suggest the Phantom. The Nilas could also be considered if you need more warmth.
This is completely inaccurate. You need to do more research about current best jackets. And stop using the word "best", hands off that word. I have two best jackets in the world right now, both of which you do not have in your video and do not deserve to know what they are. Unless you pay me!
Christ you’re very touchy. If you’re that bothered why watch the video😂 a lot of people will find this helpful. I don’t agree with some but I can appreciate their opinions.
@@monzarace why the hell not !? The number one is the The North Face AMK Cloud L6 parka, 1000 down fill. Make sure you also buy their mitts or insulated gloves as this jacket is made for pros who go to Himalayas, and does not have side pockets. The second one is the Arcteryx Alpha parka jacket, 850 down fill. Make sure you also get Icebreaker long johns and light Eddie Bauer insulated fleece pants for a comfortable feeling, otherwise there goes you body heat and energy drained through your legs after an hour in -35 celsius. Also, balaclava to warm your face and nose....as this is the first thing that will freeze at -35 celsius. And in case of blowing snow storm at -35, a nice and cool pair of ski googles.
@@Karim-wv4de I do have all that, just some other brands. All my gear ready and looked after, but my trip was just cancelled (not to the Himalayas), because of the war. Argh... And for still standing activities, I still have and use the old type (not the present one made) Canada Goose Snow Mantra, which was better in the beginning, not today, when it all seems to have gone haywire. Also I think some of TNF went down qualitywise, not all of course. So to a question. I use a bit of clear sticky tape and a bit of glue to repair the thin outer surface, with the thin tape being on the inside, if I can press it in. What do you use on say the TNF summit jacket? (doesn't work in minus temps though, so have to get back down to repair). Kind regards.
@@monzarace not sure i completely understand your question, but i will attempt to answer it. TNF jackets and sleeping bags are notorious for getting rips. Except this new AMK L6 cloud down, which is the new generation material. I wouldnt bother to repair their jackets, i would just buy a new one that doesnt rip. Once the jacket gets wet, your tape may fall off, and then the jacket is useless. Speaking of ski goggles, Montcler sells really cool ones. If you want to look really coo on a severe blowing snow storml, i'd go for ultra cool full face polarized ski goggles.
yeah, the whole list fails miserably on me... not ONE jacket is waterproof, and not one jacket is adaptable (removable hood) and has some comfort when the hood is not on your head (read: the jacket should have a COLLAR!)
Out of curiosity, what's brought you here? Are you looking for your first down jacket or are you after a replacement for an older one?
If you're current on is damaged, you might want to check out our guide to repairing a torn jacket: ua-cam.com/video/N4g1uJKmCX4/v-deo.html&feature=emb_title
Will
Was looking for a review on the arcteryx alpha parka. There is exceedingly little information about it out there, and I don't just mean specs. Would be awesome if you guys did a video on it!
I'm looking for information on how the geese are treated. I just found out that "Canada goose down" boils the geese while still alive!
@@DNSMLT look elsewhere then!
I'm not really a walker but I am a sports photographer and have to endure the best of our British weather. I bought a Rab Valiance as l needed both warmth and something waterproof. Great content.
As I just relplaced 2 jackets this year I know benefits/comprompises/price/fit all play a part. For me: Late fall is an Arcteryx Cerium sv, winter Fjallraven exp lite. Other things to consider: outer D rating, pockets, cut, wrist opening, and zippers. Thanks for the tips.
Feathered Friends makes superior jackets -900+ fill power down, water resisitant exterior, last forever
If you want some really warm jackets for extremely cold weather then you can't forget about western mountaineering and feathered friends. Both very reputable companies with exceptional quality at a premium price.
Western mountaneering sleeping bags are also incredible!
Both American only though not really global brands
And what about a Mountain Hardwear "Absolute Zero" or a Fjallraven "Expedition down parka no. 1" or even an Arcteryx "Cold WX parka SVX"? These all outperform the well-known Canada Goose Expedition - because that one is WAY too wide for most people here in Europe.
Wow! Nice Looking Jackets! Lot of love and great respect for your great work from a solo mountain hiker friend from the Lower Chitral District of Pakistan.
Nice looking jackets also 💪🤠👍 excellent presentation 👌
I just wear jackets casually and when i go hiking in winter, i’ve had a few over the years. The only downside is the jackets can easily be damaged so one must be careful.
Summit series 💛
What about army surplus softie jacket the warmest jacket I have ever owned and only cost 20 pound
Question for you and your audience, how come you don’t see match, camouflaged and olive green and brown is in hiking and walking clothing
Canada Goose Jackets, Arc'teryx jackets should also be mentioned.
Arc’teryx down products are great, if a bit overpriced.
Canada Goose has gone downhill
@@TheEasyRailbest jackets 🧥
And I seriously miss Nobis! Absolutely gorgeous jackets that combine real life usability (as waterproof!) with super stylish exterior materials. These look the part! My fav is the Cartel jacket.
You say "part of a layering system during a scottish winter". What goes over the top of a down jacket, when it is raining?
I'd normally wear one of my larger cut waterproof jackets. Will
A rain coat
@@BobK5 Twat!
Exactly Madcat, what a stupid question, what do you think you wear in the rain, your pyjamas?
@@BobK5 good for a walk Bob, calm down
How come no ones reviews marmot’ products,they have some good puffies and at good prices when on sale
Just wondered if there's any reason Rab's Valiance didn't get a mention as it's waterproof?
Hi Jon. It's made it into our Top 5 in the past and is a good jacket that has rated well on our pages. We try to find a good balance in our top 5 between warmth ratings and price and it was just edged out in this instance. Will
Exactly... I just mentioned this one to someone asking about that. Unfortunately, still with "fixed hood no collar" construction... give me a Nobis Cartel anytime over this Rab.
great 👍👍👍👍bro
Hi
Moncler is the best and perhaps the original. I love mine and I live pretty far north. Latitude 53.
Here is a quote from Wikipedia:
In 1954, Moncler quilted jackets were chosen to equip the Italian expedition to K2, which culminated with the conquest of the earth's second-highest summit by Achille Compagnoni and Lino Lacedelli.[13][14] Moncler also accompanied the French expedition which reached the summit of Makalu in 1955[15] and was the official supplier for expeditions in Alaska organised by Lionel Terray in 1964.[16] On occasion of the Grenoble Winter Olympics in 1968,[17][18] Moncler became the official supplier of the French national downhill skiing team.[17] In 1968, a cartoon duck named MonDuck was introduced as a mascot for the fashion house.[19
As a real Moncler fan (I must have 5 or 6, from the standard Maya to the extrrrremely nice "Rillieux parka" and even a down filled leather jacket) I must say: they are NOT the "best" down jackets. Until recently, NONE of these were waterproof. Last year, they finally, seriously, offered a down jacket with Gore Tex! I saw that one in the Danish Moncler store in Copenhagen. Unfortunately, the model was absolutely unsuitable for my build, otherwise I would have bought it. Jackets that are more versatile (as they are waterproof) are for example the Nobis Cartel and the The North Face McMurdo parka. These both really do a good job...
Nice jackets, but this list is seriously lacking when it comes to representing the best down jackets on the market.
“5 best down jackets - that we sell”
Apples and oranges, mate. This is a vast range of almost-unrelated things to compare. Random. Please do categories by season or task.
I still have a hard time warming up to down. Very few inspire any confidence they'll hold up with regular use.
The mountain and the north face very nice down jackets.
You know what? I'm seriously disappointed by this list. ANY down jacket sporting the now so often seen "fixed hood no collar" construction can be immediately written OFF my list. If you zip it up completely (which I ALWAYS do) without the hood on your head, that hood start to pull back, pulling the zipper to your throat - a VERY nasty feeling!! And... to be truly versatile, any down jacket should be WATERPROOF, and by that I mean really waterproof, with some kind of membrane in it. THAT will shift the maintream jackets from the truly, universally usable ones. The Arcteryx Camosun, the Patagonia Wanaka, the The North Face McMurdo, ANY Nobis down jacket or down parka(!) will do as they are ALL waterproof, and even the Dutch brand Gaastra came up with some really nice down jackets having a removable hood, a collar and some kind of waterproof fabric, not so strange, as their origin lies in sailing jackets. So, there you have it: 5 brands that make REALLY universally usable ones - and even with great comfort, as they ALL have a nice collar, and adaptable too, as the hood is removable.
Living in the uk, what North Face down number would suit the coldest uk winters? Personally I think uk winters are getting milder so would a 550 be ok and would a 800 be too much? How about a 700 or 750?
It also depends on the amount of down insulation. For example a 600 fill with more down will ultimately be far warmer than an 800 fill with less down. Also goose down is finer than 🦆 duck down. Another huge criteria is durability, as many jackets now employ ultralight weight fabrics that unfortunately tend to be fragile and cannot withstand heavy use. Personally I am prepared to carry that slightly heavier jacket that has strong and durable fabrics and zips.
Down fill power is part of the warmth of a jacket. The total warmth of a jacket is determined by fill power x fill weight. Fill power on its own doesn’t tell you much about a jacket.
Imho, 750 to 850 is great quality down and will serve most purposes.
@@Carbidestruck Not to mention the more the fill power, the more sensitive to moisture it tends to be.
Awesome review! Thanks!
Decent reviews but a shame not a lot of attention to how waterproof they are which is important to me.
What parka would I need, if I just want the warmest there is, but I don't want it to look like the offspring of the Mr. Michelin-man and a trashbag?
I was looking at something like the Canada Goose Snow Mantra, but it's a bit pricey - and not very nice-looking.
I'm interested in Down Jacket (that I can compress into my backpack) Solo) when I have set up camp on a Scottish mountain in severe winter conditions. What would you advize?
Britain's Rab & Mountain Equipment are super good as well ❤
That SO impressing!!!!!
Too bad North face went woke .
I need a down lite jacket with hood attached, so I searched the offers in Romania and there are only two suggestion for me, one is Columbia Delta Ridge Down Hooded jacket and there is also Jack Wolfskin Helium or Fairmont jackets. Since the winter weather here is changing from snow to rain, I'm curios which is the best protection to the water also, both been water repellent, any ideas?
Thanks
NONE of the jackets proposed here is waterproof. If you can accept a fixed hood (why?? It is VERY uncomfortable if you do NOT wear the hood...) then a Rab Valiance comes to my mind. But I would take a Nobis Cartel ANYTIME over the suggested Rab, as this jacket has a comfortable collar and a removable hood!
I wore Jack Wolfskin Helium for 3 consecutive winters in Romania. It is a great and comfy jacket, looks good but not very warm if the wind blows and there are minus degrees.
Hey - thanks for the video. Really helpful reviews. However a few of these are out of my budget sadly! Do you have a down jacket recommendation that is perhaps £200 ish at the most please? I’m not a serious hiker or anything like that, but I just like to have a decent one for those v cold winter days. Thank you.
Hi. Webtogs have a bunch of good value options at the moment.
I'd also take a look at the Alpkit website - they're good for quality kit at decent prices. Cimalp worth looking into too. Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV thank you! Much appreciated. Will give those a try.
PH Designs make, in my opinion, the best down gear.
To expensive now, unfortunately.
What do you think of the Montane Resolute jacket.
Not tried it but Montane is a good brand and the jacket looks good on paper: water resistant down, box wall baffles, and good Pertex fabrics. The down spec could be a little better - 800 fill power is OK but not great. Hope that helps. Will
What is the price of the first jacket , thanks
Currently retailing around £200 in the UK. Will
@@OutdoorsMagicTV Thanks
What about Mountain Hardware sub zero parka ?
The Sub Zero is no longer made. The equivalent would be the Absolute Zero, which is more for expedition use. Within this grouping, I would suggest the Phantom. The Nilas could also be considered if you need more warmth.
That one is GREAT and I also mentioned it already. Together with the Arcteryx "Cold WX parka SVX" and the Fjallraven "Expedition down parka no. 1".
This is completely inaccurate. You need to do more research about current best jackets. And stop using the word "best", hands off that word. I have two best jackets in the world right now, both of which you do not have in your video and do not deserve to know what they are. Unless you pay me!
Christ you’re very touchy. If you’re that bothered why watch the video😂 a lot of people will find this helpful. I don’t agree with some but I can appreciate their opinions.
So can I know?
@@monzarace why the hell not !? The number one is the The North Face AMK Cloud L6 parka, 1000 down fill. Make sure you also buy their mitts or insulated gloves as this jacket is made for pros who go to Himalayas, and does not have side pockets.
The second one is the Arcteryx Alpha parka jacket, 850 down fill.
Make sure you also get Icebreaker long johns and light Eddie Bauer insulated fleece pants for a comfortable feeling, otherwise there goes you body heat and energy drained through your legs after an hour in -35 celsius.
Also, balaclava to warm your face and nose....as this is the first thing that will freeze at -35 celsius. And in case of blowing snow storm at -35, a nice and cool pair of ski googles.
@@Karim-wv4de I do have all that, just some other brands. All my gear ready and looked after, but my trip was just cancelled (not to the Himalayas), because of the war. Argh...
And for still standing activities, I still have and use the old type (not the present one made) Canada Goose Snow Mantra, which was better in the beginning, not today, when it all seems to have gone haywire. Also I think some of TNF went down qualitywise, not all of course.
So to a question. I use a bit of clear sticky tape and a bit of glue to repair the thin outer surface, with the thin tape being on the inside, if I can press it in. What do you use on say the TNF summit jacket? (doesn't work in minus temps though, so have to get back down to repair).
Kind regards.
@@monzarace not sure i completely understand your question, but i will attempt to answer it.
TNF jackets and sleeping bags are notorious for getting rips. Except this new AMK L6 cloud down, which is the new generation material.
I wouldnt bother to repair their jackets, i would just buy a new one that doesnt rip. Once the jacket gets wet, your tape may fall off, and then the jacket is useless.
Speaking of ski goggles, Montcler sells really cool ones.
If you want to look really coo on a severe blowing snow storml, i'd go for ultra cool full face polarized ski goggles.
enough with the recycling subject. There are other most important features to be mentioned.
Kuiu super down jacket 850 full power super light awesome jacket own a couple of them love them
Talking about these jackets like talking mobile phones,megapixel,camera ,light weight and price ,fuck this
yeah, the whole list fails miserably on me... not ONE jacket is waterproof, and not one jacket is adaptable (removable hood) and has some comfort when the hood is not on your head (read: the jacket should have a COLLAR!)
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