The Best LPVO You Can Get Right Now | PLX-C
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EDIT: Yards PLXC is in stock RIGHT NOW, it's going to be gone ASAP.
Sorry for the delay. This video is over 3mo old.
FYI: I'm still using this scope now (along side the scope switch). It really is my favorite LPVO.
Just be sure to focus the diopter to the 1x, and I think you'll be impressed as well
An no, I bought this scope with my own money.
Oh no he bought the scope switch
Will you have a review on the patrol 6HD?
I'm really thinking that this lpvo with the mil reticle will suit me well on my ak103. It's light weight, has a good 1x and really just checks all the boxes im looking for in my first lpvo. Although I do want to get a 4x posp to mess around with a test out for myself, since there really aren't any good reviews on it.
Is the Scope switch good?
is it the Antimatter Industries comes the ScopeSwitch? When is the video review on the scope switch coming out?
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Thanks for the content
Brass Facts has 2 moods:
- Easy to follow, realistically minded gear review, with minimal bias and an understanding of what normal people can afford.
- "DOG"
Also yeah the CQB or whatever ACSS reticle is my favorite, simple, useable, helpful, fast, clear.
I have 3 aces red dots I like everything about them I have a aimpoint is it clearer yes better built probably but it's just a dot and I think aimpoint needs to step up their game for the price they are charging , and my mro It's really my least favorite all i see is a cluster of dots . I just got Daniel defense I'm planning on getting one of these for I just like the reticle.
@@odysseussonoflaertes6457 that would be the ACSS reticle designer. seriously, half of the ACSS reticle flavors are labeled as "ACSS CQB M1/2/3" or some variation of that.
Yes this is THE BEST option out there in my opinion. I love mine!! The bezel is also amazing because the glass just floats out front. With no massive ring glaring into periphery
I have the older Gen version that I really like. The 1x reticle adjustments they did on this version look fantastic.
After seeing your review on the Primary Arms SLX I bought one for $305 with mount. I’m new to LPVOs and this was my first one. I’m very happy with it especially with the Nova reticle. I guess the PLX is the gold standard now and maybe one day I’ll have one. Optic technology is moving fast and it’s expensive trying to keep up.
Thanks for the video, I agree about the 1x and bought an SLX NOVA because I didn't want to run a 1x scope and have to run a red dot too.
Great vid Brass Facts!
I had the griffin mil version of the PLxC 1-8. I liked it, but returned it because I was losing illumination on recoil (SR-15 Upper). Simple defect I assume.
When I had it, I compared it to my buddy's Vortex Razor 1-6SFP Gen II-e and the Vortex was more comfortable to get behind and more usable for me. As C_DOES and BF have mentioned the slight difference between the scope focus at 1 vs 8 power bothered me enough to look for other options. This was my first LPVO to provide some context, but I figured I would put this comment up here.
Overall its a cool scope (weight & price) but I wasn't in love with it. PA customer service was awesome and I look forward to getting more products from them.
Had that happen to me on a primary arms red dot, on a .45 vector.
Ive taken this scope(meter version) out to 539yds on a 6arc and it did great. Plan was to replace it with a NF 3-18 but as well as it did im not going to change it out. I swapped out the top cap with the optional dial and im glad i did.
No argument here. Likewise C_Does agrees with you. Yes the Primary Arms 1-8x24 PLx-c is an outstanding scope for anyone that is interested in spending over 1,500 dollars. I’m waiting to see what Primary Arms does with an improved GLx-c version. Long story short - love the scope, but hate the price.
It's a 1-8 bud....
@@BigTeeze corrected - Thanks
The price is fair in the market imo.
It’s actually a pretty fair deal. Compared to options from NF or Khales etc.
Is there any news on a GLX-C?
I’ve been using the EOtech vudu 1-10 SR5 for a few months now, ≈1,200rds at this point with about 35% at 1X, 30% 3-6X, 35% at 10X. Most of the shots are at a flat range but I’ve used the vudu hiking in the woods, when on the 1X I now have to search for the distortion otherwise I guess my brain has grown to it and learned to disregard it
Same. Big fan I think it's under rated
Its an amazing scope! I have the meters version on my 14.5 and plan on getting a second one.
Good dog at the end. Put a smile on my face seeing it enjoy the snow.
Really like mine, meter version. Only tiny complaint is I wish the BDC verticle reticle was thinner. Had good experience with their warranty after moisture got in a 5X prism scope I bought years ago
I own 2 of these with the Griffin mil reticles. One on top of my 14.5” AR15 and one on top of my 16” AR10. Both are outstanding and perform really well. Would not hesitate recommending it to anyone looking for an excellent LPVO.
My top 2 for my AR 308 are either this or the Vudu 1-10 that I know Brock looooooves in 1x 🙃
I’ve been a PA fan for several years and they continue to impress
This optic is outstanding I'm slowly getting rid of my other lpvo's and ordering the PLX-C.
I miss my razor 1-6 e , but I sold them both for NV and finishing my Hk416 and I’m happy but now that I’m back in the market for an LPVO this one consistently keeps coming up as something that is worth buying for sure. I keep hearing great things about this thing and I really want one, everyone I’ve seen with it seems to LOVE it
Selling shit to afford other expensive shit is the lifestyle of poors
@@TheBawbSagetWell most of us are poors
@@TheBawbSagethigher end stuff sells pretty easily and close to msrp surprisingly. Just go look at the people buying anything aimpoint on gafs for 5 dollars less than new prices.
Why wouldn’t I sell to some sucker like you so I can try new things while my eyes are still young
It's so hot outside, this video gives me much needed chills.
100 % right . Plx c with the M8 raptor is the best. I was saying a year ago.
The complex M8 reticle is the only reason why I would use an lpvo. If I wanted something simple, I would just stay with the Red Dot with the 6X magnifier. In that case I can remove the magnifier at night for a lighter gun. If I'm going to carry a pound and a half on top of the gun, it better have a complex reticle that gives me lots of information.
Get the Meters bdc if you want a bigger horseshoe at 1x over the other two options. I believe its double the size in width, its alot less busy at higher mag and less in the way of your target then the mil griffin and yards bdc.
I believe you are right. Having messed with the other reticle I believe it's slightly superior.
@@BrassFacts agreed, my bro-in-law has the yards, I definitely prefer my meters reticle on all magnifications
Came here to saw exactly this. Meters reticle seems like the best of the 3 options if you can get past the unit difference.
@@BrassFactsweaver tactical 1-5 cert all the way
As a PLXc enjoyer, I’m looking forward to watching this on my break. Nothing like a bit of purchase validation as a treat.
Edit: I’ve watched it. I agree on all points. The reticle and illumination is the only thing keeping this thing from perfection. If it had the FCDMX reticle and the illumination of a Nightforce, it would be 10/10. That said, the reticle is still totally usable and I was able to get very consistent hits at 380m with my 14.5”.
me watching videos for every product i own because theyre 'the best'
I ended up with the Trijicon TR-24 something or another…it’s good enough for my gamer gun.
I have been saving up for a MK5hd for my long range rifle, here in Calizuela the PRS/NRL game is just about the only game we have available with any reasonable regularity.
@@ninjasquirrels you won’t be dissatisfied. I’ve got a mk5hd illum 3.6-18 on my 6.5 creed. It’s amazing in all regards.
Elcan still better
@@balanar3223 elcan is overpriced and I own several. Bought them used, cause tactical Timmy’s are daft and buy overpriced shit.
You’re videos keep getting better and better brother
I genuinely look forward to your vids
Happy Friday
thanks man, means a lot.
Glad to be part of your friday.
I shall be purchasing this. Thanks for the affirmation
That reticle fade from real time to overview was beautiful
Your video editing skills have come quite a long ways. It would be great for you to do a video on your video editing skills, what you use and how you put it all together because some of us out here would like to make videos but don't know anything about putting it all together.
I got lucky snagging one of these a short bit ago and one of the best things I don't think you got to mention was how good the 1x is on these. It really is fantastic.
Did you even watch the video? He literally speaks about the 1x for about 2 minutes of the 14 minute video.
Best LPVO on the market in any price range in my opinion. Good vid.
Been waiting for this review, gracias!
Thumbs-up for adorable dog in snow footage. I think you said something about a scope too.
I love when ScopeFacts uploads new video
If they come out with a day light bright one like their newest SLX that they just released, I'll be first in line to snag one.
Maybe it was just my PLx but from 0-10 yards I couldn’t adjust the diopter correctly to have both the reticle and the lens image clear at 1x. Went to the NX8 and it’s 1x benefits outweigh the eye box negatives with zero blurry image.
I wish I had people like you that lived around me. I get so bored doing this all on my own.
Have had mine almost 2 months and I’m loving it. I got the yards reticle and used strelok for holds and it works like a charm. I was going to buy an offset but there is no point, the 1x is perfect. This scope will ruin your other LPVOS
My next optic! I’ll buy that rail-mounted zoom adjuster too for the heck of it.
That rail zoom thing looks frikken awesome! Not cheap though! But I wouldnt trust it if it were $100, ya know?
That rail zoomer looks silly and gimmicky
Mine is out for delivery right now per your recommendation a while back! Took 5 weeks on back order.
PLXc user here. Not watched yet but I agree. I like it more than my Vortex 1-10. Only problem is daylight bright reticle.
Exactly, so doesnt it piss you off that their cheapest lpvo has one?
@@davidlong6796I have both of these scopes and it doesn't bother me at all because I know that the technology in the two scopes is very different. FFP vs sfp illumination is just different. It's way easier to make a super bright while still affordable optic using sfp. FFP can be made bright but it's expensive and the battery life is crap anyway.
@@beardly0121 i didnt realize their high end lpvo was ffp only. I will adjust my comment to say that all sfp lpvos should be this bright.
The part when you showed the 1x performance felt like literal magic, it almost looked like a red dot sight. Also for some reason there's some slight buzzing/hissing sound jn the background audio.
Well I sought out a PST Gen II MRAD on your constant recommendation, 350 on UTG, tossed it in a sweet Reptilia AUS and I love it.
Press-ALL notifications. Love your videos. I tell myself you don’t live in a house. You live among the topography.
This has been on my radar for ages. Well not ages, but when they released em.
I think one of the reasons that LPVOs are so ideal on a 5.56 AR is that the ideal range for a 1-8 LPVOs is 25-600 yards. (Really more 50 yards on the low but who cares) this also lines up really well 5.56 ballistically where 25-500 is going to be relatively flat shooting and still have enough energy on target. You can push it to 700 with the rounds and a 1-8 but it's going to struggle.
Thats whete 2-10, 2-12, and 2.5-15
Come in
@@shaolinwarriormarkit’s also a limitation of the round at those distances as well not just the optic
@shaolinwarriormark but then you have the issue of the round loosing ft/lbs. In ideal conditions 77gr 5.56 @700 yards has about as much energy as 9mm. At 800 its less than a .38 sw. So at those ranges outside of the effective range of a 1-8 that you loose effective energy on target.
@@roseprecision they took 5.56 out to 1100 yards b4
@shaolinwarriormark @1100 yards 77gr 5.56 has ~150ft/lbs of energy and ~60 MOA rise, just because you can punch paper at those ranges doesn't mean that it's effective for combat. For context, at that range, 77gr 5.56 is slower than .22lr at point blank with only ~20 more ft/lbs of energy.
I was really hoping you’d do this soon. I have a razor 3 and I’ve been considering trying out the Vudu or this one. Wish there was somewhere I could go actually try them at.
You said it was in your top 3, what others would you put there?
5/5 bonus doggo footage
Review was excellent too, as always!
Currently still running their budget 1-8 sfp. Been thinking of upgrading but haven’t nailed down what i want. This is pretty close on the list
Have you tried the Kahles yet? I love the K16, hoping to check out the K18 this summer.
I'm doing a fairly high end 14.5" build and was going to just get a budget end sub $500 Lvpo just to get shooting. Was considering the Arken Ep-8 or one of the cheaper Primary Arms models but stumbled across the Athlon Ares ETR FFP 1-10-24 Lvpo on Optics Planet 28% off for about $750. My Dad has one of their high end long range optics and that thing is crispy. Definitely excited and hoping to get some good price/performance out of the Athlon.
Have the PA PLX-C on my HCS Mk12 Mod H right now. Digging it.
oh that wonderful consistent trigger control.
I'm just sticking with my PST gen II. Little heavy, but I love it. Super fast on 1x and super passable to 400yds, and I much prefer SFP. Super clear, great eyebox, I just dig it.. and it was $450 on sale lol
Decided to upgrade personally... its definitely better, worth the upgrade imo. Got my plx-c for 1k so theres that.
@@XinthisisIs it possible to learn this power?
Thanks again for the excellent video. If it weren't for the current geopolitical circumstances I would look forward to a future when we can design and apply our own reticles and have different ones for different ranges and conditions on the same scope.
Don't live your life based on what politicians say is right and wrong
@fullfofire why does the current geopolitical circumstance make a difference then?
Vic you really think the world's going to end, I didn't think THATs what you were saying
@@chadwik4000 I don't imagine that the "world will end" but I do very much fear that war, economic decoupling, and debt crises will cause a severe depression and supply chain disruption to the point where new tech products, at the very least, may no longer be available (to me anyway). I don't believe or not believe anything though. I just assign varying degrees of vague and changing probability to events and notions.
@@chadwik4000 I am a long time history and economics buff. I'll admit that I have been reading books like The End of the World is Just the Beginning" (written before the beginning of the war and is perhaps still a bit hyperbolic on some points) which is about the effects of possible if not probable de-globalization. I am old enough to remember doom saying like that that Paul Ehrlich and his being completely wrong. I thought he was a twit when he was on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show. I have long been a cornucopian rather than Malthusian but events and trends of recent history have me rattled a bit.
Excellent video! Subscribing for sure.
Yessirrrrskiii, that whole set up 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I got the griffin MIL version. Just took it out last weekend to zero it and use it for the first time. I was blown away by it.
Good review! Just wrapping up mine. I love that reticle though... But I'm a griffin fan boy haha -Walsh
I loved their older simple reticle. They are out of control now
1x reticle is the main reticle on an LPVO imo.. it should be setup as such with good clarity, reticle to the user, and then a useable 6x/8x
for the requirement of magnification and 1x the best options right now are probably this Primary Arms LPVO or a TA31 Acog with red dot mounted on top.
We need more videos of nova larping on the flat range man! But good video I really enjoyed it!
nova doesn't like the range. So it really only happens on camping trips.
I love Primary Arms hope I can afford the SLx 1-8x24 FFP with ACSS for .308 sooner rather than later or maybe the 2-10x with the MD-25 on top.
I'm using the vortex razor 1x6 gen 2 e I believe it will do what I need it to do the first focal plan thing don't bother me because if I'm shooting out to 200 were I have it zero it's going to hit were I aim on any power any thing over 200 I just jump it straight to 6 then all my drops are the same hold all the time as to were I have done figured my holds out so it's all good as long as that thing keeps its zero
When i was looking for an lpvo my main purpose was to replace a red dot and magnifier combo. I ended up with the Trijicon accupoint 1-4 with the simple triangle post reticle and it has served me very well. The eyebox is generous, the 1x is great, its super light at just over 14oz, and the tritium fiberoptic combo is bright as shit when you need it and is dialable when you don't (no electricle tape required).
I love my accupoint but my god is the 4x horrid...
@@TerminalM193 yeah...there was a reason I didn't mention it😂 but it definitely beats the hell out of my 3x vortex magnifier.
I went with the steiner p4xi, but thats a good red dot mag replacement also
See this scope was made for people like me, im weird because i like reticles that most people would call "busy" and im not a fan of very barebones reticles. Your main gripe is my biggest selling point. It gives me a "donut of death" on a good 1x and then if i dial in for a more precise shot i have the reticle to assist in that extra precision.
It also helps that i live in a *VERY* green world instead of a reddish-brown one so i dont need as much contrast to highlight my reticle.
This might be the "perfect" LPVO for people who do live in a "green" world.
I have the predecessor 1-8 plx acss griffin. I prefer it. Its not as busy its built for dialing and crystal clear. It is longer and heavier but i dont mind that for my purposes.
I wish theyd make this scope with the ACSS M2 reticle, the 3x I currently run has it and I generally find it to be a nicer reticle than the M8.
i feel that the aurora is the best compromise for their reticles sans going to a mill grid and do-doing M A T H... lol if they DROP THE CHEVRON AND GIVE US THE AURORA DOT imo it would be the best
Thanks for all the great shots against the environment of what I'm guessing may be Utah? Looks like the west desert here. I've been trying to decide on a camo for that area, and was torn. Looks like Multicam is the one 👍
Just picked up the newly released peanut butter pickle fde model....excited
Have you looked at the Marsh one to 10 Shorty dual plane?
Question for Professor Brock.
What lpvo scope would you suggest that does have adjustable parallax?
I wish i had seen your review of their nova before I jumped. I bought 3 of them based on other reviews. They made it seem like it was compared to the razor for 370 bucks. For those 3, i eas basically at the cost of the plxc. That looks amazing, though. I've been horribly disappointed with the SLX.
💯% agree about the modern PA’s reticles being a victim of feature creep and waaay too busy.
I love PA’s stuff, especially their prism scopes, but yeah………….
Keep up the no-nonsense video + cute dog shots. We'll even overlook your LARPing intro 😂
Good stuff. I think the weak illumination deserves a mention in context of 1x performance. Like you point out in the beginning, folks want LPVOs to function as an 'almost red dot' on 1x. The reticle features that help draw your eye to the center are useful, but a super bright dot is useful-er. I had a NX8 for a while and couldn't get over some of its flaws, but really appreciated the brightness of the reticle. I'm not a huge Vortex fan, but the Razors shine in the brightness feature, which is a huge plus at 1x. In this price bracket, I think I'd still opt for a Gen 2-e over the PLXC for the 1x performance + brightness. The weight savings and extra 2x are big pluses for the PA, but I can get over an LPVO being SFP as I'm typically gonna crank up to max mag on an LPVO if I'm shooting far enough to need hold data.
so red dot or bust huh.
@@BrassFactsNo, but if you’re going to claim a product to be the best, it has to be the best in critical categories. Even though LPVOs are magnified optics, 1X performance and usability (cough cough daylight capable red dot) in 1X is a critical category.
For this reason I bit the bullet and purchased the NF ATACR 1-8. For assurance I also mounted a FDE Aimpoint ACRO P2 on a Arisaka 45 degree offset.
@@kpperry784 agreed. Whenever I consider an LPVO, I put it up against my Steiner P4Xi. 1x, illumination, weight, clarity, eye box. It has everything I want other than the magnification. If I'm going to upgrade, I don't want to downgrade any of these critical factors.
@@ForOrAgainstUs Indeed! Also Steiner is criminally underrated in the optics game.
I think the reticle is far more important than the illumination. As long as it draws your eye in nbd. Also with a offset or top dot. Then it’s moot
To make it perfect, take aluminum black to the logo. It takes a while but it looks badass.
Great content BF! Curious if you have the Atibal HYBRID 1-12x32 FFP Plumb Reticle GEN II (MPVO) in your list of future reviews. Although a little busy the side parallax seems like a game changer. Thoughts?
that doe seem interesting, but no. I don't really have any plans for the atibal lineup.
I've heard some really sketchy shit from that company, and I'd rather not be involved.
Id love to see a 1x6 plxc with a simplified acss reticle horseshoe dot. Bump up the illumination intesity
Waiting for the swampfox war horse to come out along with their new 1x prism scope. My eyes are very picky when it comes to dot color, reticle and eye relief.
Finished work, and now it's time to feed the algorithm.
Could you do a video giving your best recommendations of LPVO by price tier
Have a strike eagle 1-6 opmod sfp on my super duty atm. I already have an eotech exps3-0 with a g33 combo. So, looking to upgrade my strike eagle to a better lpvo, is this worth the money to upgrade? The glass clarity, eye box/eye relief only planning on shooting 10-400 yards for training!
Have you tried Tracy Toric 1-8x24? I know it’s a SFP but for the price it’s nice.
By far my favorite LPVO. I think the glass quality is excellent throughout. LPVO's always come with compromises.
The main issue that is draws complaints about this LPVO is the lack of daylight brightness. True - the illumination is pretty bad. I dont find it necessary to be daylight bright in most applications.
With that said I have an offset red dot on both of my rifles with the PA PLX-C. So I have redundant 1x.
ACSS like all innovations are subject to “cramming” - sticking in “features” nobody asked for but engineering can do. My fave long black rifle reticle for sure but don’t overshoot market expectations just to get upgrades.
Best part was your dog pulling his best SCARFACE impersonation.😂
COCAINE
I spent some money and got this LVPO for the already expensive rifle I bought… no regrets happy with the purchase but I have a few gripes.
The ranging on the reticle is funky. I wish they did a dot than a chevron, just my preference. And you lose the image pretty easy on 8x based on your eye position.
It’s growing on me. The image quality is great and the 1x is the best I’ve ever seen through an LVPO. But I feel I could have gone with a lower budget PA and I would have been just as happy.
Good review as always.
Been wondering why it’s taken you so long to get around to this one cause I know how you like the regular versions.. been holding off on buying one to replace another lvpo till you got around to this and can can see if you take in this..
😒 sounds like I’ll be keeping my strike Eagle 1-6 FFp which is less busy and the entire range tree lights up which helps for quick 1x pickup and transition speed at various distances 😩
Hey man, just started watching you and Hop a lot and just wanted to say I really enjoy your content and it's been really helpful in sorting through the weeds of equipment, especially when it comes to NODs. Keep up the good work, can't wait to see more content from ya!
Quick question since you're the PDW man with the PDW plan, I've been setting up my PTR 9KT (PTR's MP5K clone) to do my best at filling the PDW role you've brought up before since I already had it, I've got an Eotech EXPS 3-4 and Surefire M300V on it atm and want to add a small IR laser so that the gun is also technically fully night capable (though I'm not expecting any laser I can fit on here to be particularly powerful at distance, it's going on a PDW anyways) and was wondering if you had any ideas/recommendations? Current plan in my head is mounting the M300V in the 9 o'clock position, a TNVC TOR-MINI IR to the 6 o'clock, and pressure switch for the Surefire to the 3 o'clock (context: I am also a lefty and prefer to grip the MP5K by the magwell, acts as makeshift VFG and I don't deal with the gun's heat after sustained firing as much)
Also yes I know the 9KT is pushing it on the viability in the role and I do want to get a Flux Raider in the future, it does look sick after all, but this is what I've got *now* so figured I'd roll with it as best I can and make it work.
sorry, hops the one to talk to for PTR/mp5 things.
I know nothing about mp5 type things. While hop has a full decked one.
I think that might work? but it'd be a bit of a cluster fuck
@Brass Facts Fair enough and yea I think no matter how I do it for a laser it'll end up a bit of a clusterfuck, just to what degree is what I'll get to find out
Do you think that LVPO's like the Steiner P41x or the Trijicon tr24 are still relevant? If so, which one of those two do you think is the better option?
Ok, so I just got my plxc mounted and zeroed today. Holy crap what a 1x. I ordered both the Razor Gen 2 e and the plxc to compare. The plxc is way more true of a 1x than the razor. Idk if I got a razor lemon, or my eyes just dont like it. Indoors the razor sucks and a lot of fish eye inside of 15 to 20 ft. The plxc is the best 1x I've seen yet no fish eye even at like 10ft. Even indoors, it looks pretty good. The eye box on 8x js not nearly as tight as I expected. Its about the same as the nova 1-6 on 6x. Im returning the razor and keeing thr nova 1-6 and plxc 1-8.
Does anyone know if the new Plx top-cap RDS mount will work with a Glx Cantilever mount?
You, Hop, and Deltathirtyfour have such stellar info. You all need 10m subs
Brassfacts can you bully Hop into using the Brownells Brn9 upper since he has an ar9 obsession?
With all those stadia lines, i feel like if you were looking from a distance into heavy brush or a tree line, it may be difficult to detect slight movements due to not being able to recognize actual movement because it may look like something is moving if a line/lines move by a branch or shadow.
Now that im done with that run on sentence, id say its way too busy. It may work for bench rest shooters but not practical for defense
I really like the Trijicon Credo 1-6 Red. I own two of them and they're crystal clear edge to edge and the best 1 to 1 I've ever looked through. The only thing I don't like about them is they don't have a parallax adjustment. But for an AR that's shooting out to 30-450 yds, I don't see that being a problem. But for a DMR I'd get one with a parallax adjustment and probably something in the 4-16 range anyway.
the credo 1-6x is nice.
This is better.
But if I couldn't have this creedo 1-6x SFP might be top 5.
@@BrassFacts what’s your top list? You mentioned the plx is in your top 3.
Nice work.
Man you have a nice place to train I wish I had access to places like that
I'm waiting for one with the nova reticle.