Primary Arms Compact PLx-1-8x24mm FFP Scope Review: The Best LPVO?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2022
- We take the new Japanese made Primary Arms 1-8x PLx FFP compact scope with ACSS reticle to the range, go over its features, and what I think of it so far 🤙🏽
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Been waiting on this review. Thanks! I’m very excited about this optic.
Great review, I've been waiting for this since you posted a few months back that you planned to review it. I've been a holdout on the LPVO and just used the 4X ACOG for years on my intermediate rifle, glad to see that everyone thinks so highly of this. Stay cool
I have been looking for an lpvo for a year this is a sign thanks for the review.
Plan on saving up for this, thanks taking the time get familiar behind the scope to do a review!
Your review confirmed for me what others have said. I've been trying to decide which lpvo to mount on my DD v7 SLW.
After watching multiple reviews and doing some comps, your endorsement sealed the deal for me. Ordered it from Optics Planet last night and got a decent discount. I'll post a follow up after I receive it. Thanks very much for the in-depth review!
You cant go wrong with PA ACSS optics.
I own both the SLX and PLX 1-8x ACSS models and LOVE them both.
I will say though, as great as the platinum series is, the lighter, more compact and less expensive SLX model gets the nod for me.
Its 2nd focal plane reticle just makes more sense for any LPVO of 10x and under and its glass and overall performance is so close to the much pricier models it really isnt a factor.
One thing for sure, whether silver class or platinum, the ACSS reticle systems are the best in the industry!
This is what I'm talking about!! Hearing this is such a great LPVO (from someone that really knows what they're doing) is invaluable. I hate it when reviewers get you with clickbait and then tell you "your use case will determine if something is worth the money or not". Thank you for the transparency, and the simple answer. Sounds like I need to go shake the couch cushions again!
How far out do you think MrGunsnGear is shooting ? I'd venture a guess and say, not any further than his corn/tobacco field lets him.
This means that he's not out there shooting this out to 750/800 yards and therefore he can't say much about how it's doing at those distances. Just sayin.
@rascalmatt6713 Using a few other context clues, I'd agree. I don't think anyone with half a brain and an AR chambered in 5.56 is trying to shoot beyond 500-600 yards at most. The reticle in this optic is another good clue as it has a BDC solution for 5.56. I now own one of these and can attest to its great build quality and usability out to reasonable distances.
I got one on sale for $1300, used the savings to buy a good QD mount for it. I can move it from one rifle, to a different one. Great Scope I feel better now after seeing this ! Thanks
wait this $500 optic was 1,300??
PA Plx and Glx scopes are just fantastic. I don't even look at their silver series anymore unless it's for their microprism scopes which I hope make it onto the Glx line.
I bought the latest SLx 3x micro prism and sent it back, it was not worth the money, however I do love PA optics, I bought two of the PLx 1-8's and they are amazing LPVO's! I got the SLx Gen III 1-6 SFP for my Aero beater gun and it works well too.
@@Nowhereman58 they are pricing scopes three times their worth price to keep them out of the poor man's hands, if you think i am lying, check out how remington doesn't even offer a precision rifle any more, their line up is fudd garbage!
@@Nowhereman58 why'd you send it back specifically... I like mine. Light and 3x.
@@Nowhereman58 for the price doesn't the slx 3x prism beat an acog all day?
LETS GOOOOOO! Currently saving up for this optic since I saw SupersetCA’s video on it. It’s such an innovative and well designed scope, wish it was daylight bright but with all the other pros this is definitely a great buy. Can’t wait to get mine
yeah, the shake awake feature would be nice. 🙄
at 1500 you can get the proven 1-6 vortex
Not necessary to be nuclear bright with this reticle style. On 1X, the thick full stadia lines and horseshoe/chevron are extremely fast with no illumination at all
@@kapower06 i noticed when shooting desert environments the reticle tends to wash out on bright days
Really happy you did this review. Reaffirms my decision to buy this for my LWRC IC-A2. Awesome product is my novice impression as well. PA is really knocking it out of the park with innovation coupled to super quality and seems to punch way harder than the price point.
The scopes are nothing super fancy but man their reticles are killer. It's nice they have multiple price points for the consumer. I have a slx 1-6 ACSS and it's on my dmr setup. They is so much good stuff out there now. It's a great time to be a shooter.
If you're going to spend that much on an AR you might as well go ahead and grab a Knights Armament. Go all the way ya know
@@bmstylee it was a great time to be a shooter back when I could buy ammo for 20 cents per round
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 ah yes. And 555 packs of federal 22lr was $15. That and my local shop sold a variety of Eley and SK match ammo. Ah memories.
This soundtrack never gets old.. LOVE IT!
Perfect timing man just about done with an 18 inch build and going to need another optic... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
I think it's cool how this company offers high tier AND affordable options that are still quality, for example i own their $200 md25 acss red dot and it works amazingly and also still looks cool
I got one this past week and have it mounted. I have not shot with it yet but everything from the packaging and the features on the scope seem like a good upgrade. So far I would buy again. Eye box is good at one power and tight at 8 power but very usable. It is a good compromise of features. Definitely did not seem like they cut corners which worried me at first since they are known for more budget products.
I’ve heard so much good things about this scope, and after your review I think I’m set on it. I’m going to purchase it for my new Tavor X95, appreciate your review ❤❤
Great review as always Mike! I think this just hit the top of my short list for future optic purchases. Love an LPVO and this thing hits all the marks. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
I have the FFP 1-6 (it's an SLx) and I was getting out to 550 yds with no problem. PA makes some good stuff. I know this 1-8 is probably awesome.
Primary Arms is so hard to beat these days. I used to be all about Vortex, but the reticles from PA are really amazing and for great prices.
Same here. Primary arms has replaced all my vortex optics
I had terrible luck with the RS-10 red dot. It kept shutting off on me when shooting. I had to return it. They have nice features but I'm already skeptical of their quality after my first experience.
I am interested to try one, I have a couple Vortex's (the1-10 and 1-8) and see how they compare.
The Razor Gen II 1-6 is still the fastest LPVO on the market all these years later. As clever and well done these ACSS reticles are, they still aren’t as fast as a good SFP reticle and super bright illuminated dot. Where the PLx-C really shines over the Razor is the light weight and the medium-long range capability. The glass quality is about equal on both, the Razor has better eye relief and more forgiving eye box. Basically the top LPVO choices right now are Razor HD Gen II for $1k (on sale) or PLx-C 1-8 for $1.5k. The PLx ain’t never going on sale lol. So you have the option to spend an additional $500 for an optic that is slightly better at longer ranges without compromising much at short range.
@@proverbialmind_spread9421 It's literally a roll of the dice, no matter what company you buy from. EVERY company (the major ones anyway) has a 10-15% return rate, at least. So you were just unlucky, just like I was. My first Primary Arms 1x prism, the screws that held the optic to the mount broke, on my first several shots while I was sighting it in. Broken screws inside the optic, 3 out of 4. It took 21 emails and 4 weeks to get a return label. Crap happens. But it can happen with other companies too.
I have decided to get this for my Scar 17 just with its great reviews and PA warranty backing. Thanks!
@Mathew Long I ended up getting the EOTECH Vuuduu 1-10X and so far so good with different types of ammo.
Excellent as always!
Getting more info on this lpvo has been what made me wait before buying a Razor or a VUDU lol. I’m glad I did too. I’m 99% settled on this one. Solid optic AND under 17ounces! Ftw👌
Not daylight bright and a reticle full of shit you won’t use… get the razor and do arms once a week.
@@user-yj7ph9vk2k I would use the reticle. And, I would use the significant weight savings.
I have their 1x6 aces raptor and love it. FFP as well
Would love to see this scope compared with the new Eotech 1-10 FFP scope.
I was looking hard at this scope for quite a while, but just couldn’t get past the (lack of) daylight brightness. I found a NIB Razor 1-10 locally for $1,900 and jumped all over that instead. At 1x it’s full Aimpoint bright. If PA ever figures that aspect out, I’ll be happy to put one on my next build
A 30mm vs 34mm comparison would be great!
i have been following this scope for a few months now. this will be my next purchase.
I’ve just been waiting to jump on the LPVO game until one around this size comes about. And boy am I excited to see what’s about to come
I love PA optics, nice seeing the wwsd in use.
Picked one up recently in meters. Very nice scope.
I already wanted one of these so bad and you had to make a video on it.
Love Primary Arms. If I had the budget I would be all over this.
I just picked up one of the previous gen plx 1-8x 4-5 months before this came out. Needless to say i was pretty salty about that lol. Definitely want one of these.
Man your green screen gets better and better huh? Great review, PA has been kicking butt lately. Always been but just feels like they're really coming into their own even on the higher end of prices.
Great review… Very well done with going over all options… Keep up the great reviews and thanks for fighting for our 2A rights..
yep putting this on my PWS MK116K MOD2 762x39 cant wait
I would like to see a comparison between the the old plx and new plx and if you include the new glx in the review that wold be awesome 👌
Primary Arms is really making some great products and at a reasonable price. Their SLx 1x and 3x micro prism red dots are amazing and I believe the lightest you can get.
I've gravitated towards the credo and accupower 1-8s as light transmission is pretty high up on my list as I shoot in low light quite a bit. It's pretty crazy to me that a 30mm can match or beat it. I wonder if the shorter body plays a part?
Dang it! I bought the first Gen 1-8x, as Carl (MSGT Green Beret) from Tactical Rifleman recommended it as the scope that he’d take to war with no questions or doubt! I prefer the mil-radian so that’s the one I purchased, and I love it. I total agree with Carl based on my use.
Then they come out with this one! I should of waited. I wait for all you UA-camrs to ring out the flaws, then I’ll pick one up when PA corrects them. If it’s as good as the first gen, then I’ll pick one up.
IMO, Primary Arms has great glass for the price. Maybe not the best, but definitely good enough for the average & precision shooter/first line/civil defense/militia/preparedness types. I do think, hands down they have the best Reticles on the market!
I pre-ordered one back in May, finally got it a couple of weeks ago. I used Mrgunsngear code word for the mount and my vet status for 10% of. Still expensive but I am very happy with it.
Great info
been holding off on selecting scope for a recommended mate for 6mm ARC newlywed 18”created AR. Will take a bit longer $ savings, but your review solves my past anxiety in a finial selection.
I hope you’re talking about the MIL version for a 6 arc.
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I’d be really interested in a comparison between the older and newer model. Yes the older one is heavy by 10oz but the 34mm tube provides a much more generous exit pupil diameter. I feel exit pupil is the most often overlooked feature as it’s very helpful for unorthodox shooting positions. I’d also like to see a long comparison between this and every other LPVO you own!
Does it? The objective lens is listed as being the same size. Does tube diameter actually have anything to do with exit pupil?
@@darlsbarkley3493 yeah look at the specs on it, it’s like 11mm compared to 8mm in the compact
Great video! Love all your content. Would this be a good scope for a sig ar10?
Love the acss reticle
Good review
Appreciate the video
Just bought it with the save 12% site wide deal… hope I do not regret the reticle in Yards. Was trying to wait for the Mil or Griffin but lost patients. Save 193$ because brought the taxes down from 105$ to 92$
I know primary arms is pretty stubborn about “daylight bright” illumination in a etched sight.. They say it’s not meant to be bright during the day it’s only for low light..
love this optic, still wish they updated the chevron. just making it more thin would help a long ways towards obscuring the target.
The problem with making the reticle thinner is that its more difficult to see quickly on 1x, especially since the reticle is not super bright. I have this optic, and personally I agree with SupersetCA’s assessment of “almost perfect.”
@@koozie83 Thats what the thicker horseshoe is for. The chevron need not be that thick because at 1x the Horseshoe registers as the CQC dot.
I mean...it would even be interesting if the chevron was smaller at the top with the 200-300 yd being dots traingulated to the smaller centered chevron instead...what say you dimitri? Get same sighting capability but less obscured target acquisition.
Yep. Make chevron smaller and have horizontal stadia to hold for wind when dialing with the MIL version. Then it’s perfect.
Good stuff 👏🏻
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It’s a nice scope and I like it. A negative is that the eye relief is awful beyond 6x so much I rarely use 7-8 power.
I wish it was just brighter illumination. Also please torture test it
i prefer 2nd focal plane for the large and full reticle. also you don’t need illumination in the daylight. if you’re going in and out of buildings turn it on to a medium setting and it will be there when you need it. i don’t need a rangefinder out to 300. if i need rangefinding i’ll turn it up to 6 as i prefer a 1-6.
I'd disagree about not needing illumination in daylight. Having a black reticle can sometimes make it hard to see it when there isn't contrasting colors behind, or if you're transitioning targets often. The illumination just helps the reticle stand out that much more.
Awesome video, I'm convinced now which optic to buy! My wife says I "deserve" this 😂
Would love to see a comparison video as I have already purchased the ol' boat anchor scope which I almost regret because it's.......damn heavy, and I would love to hear how my scope is already antiquated and out of date.
Yours has a way better eye box though and is significantly less expensive
I swear, sometimes I believe my phone can hear my thoughts. I just released a video just a couple of days ago and in that video I said I am in the market for a new LPVO.
By the way, great video as usual 🤙🏼
Thanks!
Can you do a review on the Vortex Razor Gen II 1x6 or Gen III 1x10?
Finishing up my 3 gun rifle build now. I’ve been looking at this scope for some time now. With that said, what are your thoughts on this LPVO as far as 3 gun purposes go? Any thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and great review as always!
The last Gen of this was heavy but man is it incredible. On my scar.
I was waiting for you to do this review. Thank you.
I have two of these on my DD AR's. Shooting with this is just flat out enjoyable. It is by far the best LPVO I ever looked through and that includes the Vortex Razor Gen 3 1-10, and yes I had I used a rifle that had it on. That is a nice scope but I wouldnt purchase it if it were the same price as the PA Compact. I like the Compact that much. Opinions may vary.
I have read the PA Compact is a non starter for some because the reticle is not day light bright. That factors very little in my assessment. Its bright enough, and considering what you are getting its not enough to deter the purchase. In daylight I use the reticle alone. I watched SupersetCA’s review, and he called it "almost perfect". The daylight bright was holding it back from perfect.
I also read/heard ...dont remember where - that the PA Compact 1-8 is on the cutting edge of the technology. I have only shot it out to 200 yards thus far but the drop from the Chevron at 100 to the bottom of the Chevron at 200 is spot on. Cant wait to take it out further.
Bottom line I bought two of them and havent regretted it at all. It was a great purchase and look forward to every range visit when I use them. It is expensive for sure but you without a doubt get more than what you paid for. That doesnt happen every day.
I've got one on my DD MK12 and an LWRC IC A2. To think how much money you can spend on Nightforce, Schmidt & Bender, Unertl, etc. and get the same results for half the cost.
I love PA reticle, if only they have it in green (yes, I know they have the predator green recticle, but I'd like to see it in their Raptor series)
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Any interest in doing a comparison between the Primary Arms Plx 1-8 ffp and the eotech vudu 1-10 ffp? Thanks for your great reviews and updates on topics like the sbr/brace issue.
can we get a comparison of the old and this new one?
How do you not have a million subs yet mannnnn? You got jipped
Would you do a compare and review against trijicon and eotech comparable vs price video. LPVO setup for a pined muzzle device to 16 barrel configeration with red dot 45 degree backup. Also how would you setup BUIS on this setup.
I'd consider this for the size factor alone. I'm currently using a Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10, and while it's absolutely awesome and punching WAY above its weight class, it's fucking huge. This Primary Arms is perfect for an SBR setup... especially something that can reach different ranges depending on load, like 300 BLK.
I was looking at the swampfox as my first foray into lpvos for a 16". You'd still recommend after running with it for a bit?
@@ferrumchnop6617 Yes. But with the caveat of making sure the rifle you mount it to is not going to be integrally suppressed. I mounted it to my SBR (300 blk, 8.5 barrel, suppressed) and it took a previously 4.5lb rifle almost to 7lbs. I don't mind it, but it is something to consider. I'm planning on moving it to a different rifle, but I haven't decided what and why. I just want to make that particular rifle lighter again. Thing is built like a tank though.
Do you put this above the Vudu hands down? It seems perfect for what I
was looking
for for my AR-10, does it being split between mil
rad and moa get confusing ? thank you for another quality video
Sadly, I ordered one a few days before I found your channel!
I wish you would have included the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24 in your chart @8:26 as it has almost identical specs to the PLx for 1/3 the price.
Otherwise, it would also be nice if you listed the parallax distance for each scope too.
Any specific thoughts on how it fares against the Trijicon Credo 1-8x28 and why you like this more?
Thank you 😊
So it’s not day light bright. If you used PLX-C with an offset.... would you pick this set up over the Razor II E 1-6?
I have been debating over this for a while now. I have handled the Razor II E 1-6 and was very impressed.
If you do the weight comparison - you can have a lighter set up with an offset dot with a true red dot AND a usable scope and reticle at distance.
Thanks
Man these videos have really gotten good
I currently have the acss SLx raptor. Is this a worthy replacement? Seems like a quality piece of glass with some good features but is it really worth 3x the price?
If they could just get that dot....as bright as a Vortex Razor.....
It'd be everything, but damn I still might get it.
Just wait for them to drop a gen 2
@@Dunk1It1Hard Let's hope so, all I want for christmas is daylight bright lol
Love mine.
Would you do a review on the Delta Stryker 1x6 LPVO?
Aside from the size and weight difference from the original plx version, is there a difference in the glass quality
How forgiving is the eye box for someone switching from red dots? I heard the vortex razor hd 2-e is pretty forgiving for LPVO newcomers. How does the PA compare?
I have a thing about not spending more on an optic than I did on the rifle I'm buying it for
Hey man on your faxon handguard does it seem out of center with the barrel? Mine are but they are perfectly level with the receiver.
If you know about ID me they partnered wit PA to get you discount. It’s just shy of 1.3k which still not cheap but it about the same price as a razor 1-6
(SpongeBob sweating) I don't need it... I don't need it........... I NEEED IT!!!!!
That tan URGI looks like it might have a warcomp on it? Or maybe a closed tine? I noticed a spurt of gas coming out from the back of the RC2 mini.
I don’t use the optic often like Once a year. Should I take battery out OR leave it in the optic Device. Is leaving the battery out of the optic help with the longevity of the optic lifespan?
Thank you..
Mike would you choose the primary arms over the trijicon vcog?
happy with my 1-6x raptor
Have you used the newer NF 1-8x with thinner reticle/circle?
Love the geese
Are the GLX/SLX rugged enough for the same scenario that ur friend was looking for?
Would you upgrade from old plx 1-8 34mm to the new plx 1-8 30mm? Is it worth it? Eye relief and weight are the 2 biggest factors i see.
I’m really interested in their GLX 1-6 FFP ACSS scope. That’s more in my price range ha.
Had one. Sent it back. Reticle/bdc holdovers are too thick for my liking. Was covering up a good portion of 12” targets past 300 yards. Glass is nice and clear on it though!
Would like to see you put this up against the Atibal XP8 FFP. You would be surprised 😁
What distance does it need to be zeroed at in order for the markings to function properly?
Would the primary arms compact 1-8 be a good fit for an ar pistol 10 inch 300 black out?
No. 10" barrel and 300 BO is CQB weapon less than 100yds and wouldn't need that much reticle. This scope best on a DMR or RECCE set up where you might be shooting out past 300yds. For the 300 BO set up you would want to have a wider field of view and red dot would be a better choice.
Welp, I think I'll be picking one up now.