Matrox Parhelia....The Final Graphics Card.

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  • Опубліковано 21 лют 2020
  • Hello and welcome to another Budget Builds Episode where today we're going to be taking a look at the Matrox Parhelia, thats right something not by AMD, ATI, Nvidia, 3DFX and the likes, no this time we're back at it looking at Matrox... But not just any Matrox card, no this time we're taking a look at the final card they managed to make, so sit back, relax, and enjoy as we take a deep dive into the history of the card and push it to its uptmost limits. With Matrox's Final Stand.
    The Matrox G550 (The Prequel to this video): • The card that KILLED.....
    Phil's Computer Labs Awesome video on the card: • Matrox Parhelia Triple...
    Anyways we really do push this card to its limits with the likes of Half Life 2, CS Source, Fable TLC and plenty more, with plenty of researching going into documenting the history of this card and just what happened. Enjoy :D
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    Specs:
    CPU: Pentium 4 Northwood @ 2.6GHz
    GPU: Matrox Parhelia - 128MB AGP 4X Release Model
    RAM: 2GB DDR RAM
    Windows 7 Debloted and Windows XP 32Bit SP3
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  • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
    @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 роки тому +347

    0:35 - I say decade....Turns out we're all old now and I actually mean Century, so the Year 2000. Anyways enjoy!

    • @bigmike9947
      @bigmike9947 4 роки тому +38

      You could also say Millenium

    • @JT-ko2ib
      @JT-ko2ib 4 роки тому

      Noticed that one, lol.

    • @Rod_Nyssen
      @Rod_Nyssen 4 роки тому +4

      @Budget Build Officail
      No joke, you can buy a "new" Martox cards even today! :D Look here: www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Matrox.html

    • @eputty123
      @eputty123 4 роки тому +1

      Could of put "last two decades" Instead now.

    • @BReal-10EC
      @BReal-10EC 4 роки тому

      You aren't old. I started gaming with Pong as a kid. That was the only video game. Well that and the light gun thing. I am old.

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC 4 роки тому +278

    It makes sense that a professional PC hardware company would have issues entering the consumer market. Pro grade hardware is usually build quality/reliability/build quality focused, while *consumer* grade is usually (disposable) bang for the buck focused.(*spell corrected)

    • @anasevi9456
      @anasevi9456 4 роки тому +21

      plus as he said, Radeon 9000s series. Even Nvidia would be on the backfoot for the next two years.

    • @catnium
      @catnium 4 роки тому +1

      consider grade?

    • @DFX2KX
      @DFX2KX 4 роки тому +7

      That sums it up well: It's worth noting that companies who *are* known for focusing on build quality (Sapphire and PowerColor come to mind because I'm an ATI/AMD guy) are very often lauded on this fact in particular. Can confirm the quality of my new Nitro+'s display ports... I'm a klutz...

    • @BReal-10EC
      @BReal-10EC 4 роки тому +7

      @@catnium Sorry, proof reading is not my forte. Fixed.

    • @xephael3485
      @xephael3485 4 роки тому +2

      They weren't entering the consumer market, they were getting kicked out of it.

  • @CrazyBlueTv
    @CrazyBlueTv 4 роки тому +292

    The GPU market could be intresting today if they were still around. sad

    • @MirekFe
      @MirekFe 4 роки тому +11

      @Michael Hansen
      All displays will speak in French though. Lol.

    • @DFX2KX
      @DFX2KX 4 роки тому +13

      @Michael Hansen interesting point there. if I recall, their drivers don't interefere with an AMD/Nvidia card, that was a combination done by some EVE multi-boxers back in the day (since EVE isn't demanding per se, especially in DX9 mode with low settings....)

    • @Valdarious
      @Valdarious 4 роки тому +11

      @TheThunderGuy S I was about say this as well. I was a huge 3Dfx fan, I think I had all the different version cards made. Back in 99-00 I remember using a Matrox G200 together with two Voodoo2's was like the ultimate setup.

    • @calvitocalvon1711
      @calvitocalvon1711 4 роки тому

      they are around but their stuff is made by nvidia lol

    • @ChikyuuKun
      @ChikyuuKun 3 роки тому +1

      Meanwhile.....
      *Intel has joined the server.*

  • @DarkBlood666
    @DarkBlood666 4 роки тому +97

    I had this video card when it released. I made heatsinks for it, overclocked it, and ran quake 3 on triple CRT monitors back then... thanks to parhelia, I have always been a surround screen gamer. I can never go back to 1 screen. Matrox Parhelia was a legend.

    • @RedstoneMiner18
      @RedstoneMiner18 2 роки тому

      *respect*

    • @madonemt
      @madonemt 2 роки тому

      Ooh. Almost forgot quake and unreal tournament. Felt like I was living in the future.

    • @FalseOracle617
      @FalseOracle617 4 місяці тому +1

      this is a rad comment

  • @LadBooboo
    @LadBooboo 4 роки тому +172

    The late 90s early 00s were a wild time for pc hardware, I kinda miss those turbine looking cpu coolers thermaltake used to make

    • @aguy255
      @aguy255 4 роки тому +2

      it still is in a way

    • @poiu477
      @poiu477 4 роки тому +4

      or the circular zantechs with the composite heatpipes

    • @marcdraco2189
      @marcdraco2189 4 роки тому +14

      I remember when Voodoo 3D hit and you still needed a dedicated 2D card to go beside it. Now those were the days, when men were men, women were women and computers where just really large pocket calculators.

    • @justiny.1773
      @justiny.1773 4 роки тому +1

      LadBooboo cooler master jet 7 I have for my Pentium cooler cooler ever !

    • @comicsansgreenkirby
      @comicsansgreenkirby 4 роки тому +5

      I could’ve gotten a cup holder...
      I really could’ve

  • @KingKong-mp6gj
    @KingKong-mp6gj 4 роки тому +29

    Some years ago i chatted with a matrix representative at the Expo in Hannover Germany where they had a small booth. We had a Matrox Mystique back in the nineties in my brothers first pc which powered all the fun we had back then so i was delighted to see them there. Turns out they are still going strong albeit not in the gaming market of course but in a professional niche which is ultra reliable multi-monitor 2D graphics. They have 700 employees according to wikipedia as of last year so they seem to do pretty good.

  • @RMDTech
    @RMDTech 4 роки тому +53

    Surprising to see the features this card was packing back in its day. Really loved watching this blast from the past. RIP Matrox

    • @Churchgrimm
      @Churchgrimm 4 роки тому +7

      Yup, they're still around, they just have a very specific niche in the enterprise market, where they actually do pretty well for themselves. They focus entirely on gpus for multi-monitor setups and high resolution multi-panel displays. Their current cards are very interesting in context since they have very high quality 2D acceleration, which is a tertiary focus on mainstream gpus. Provided the drivers were there to make it happen (and they aren't,) I would love to see how a C680 performs versus, say, a 1050 ti in Age of Empires 2: DE, which is fundamentally still a 2D game.

    • @Churchgrimm
      @Churchgrimm 4 роки тому

      @iewind I try

  • @herbasaurus5076
    @herbasaurus5076 4 роки тому +158

    Matrox was an interesting company to say the least

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 роки тому +2

      Still remember playing with a Matrox Tesselator system - SVGA in 1983.

    • @sparkyenergia
      @sparkyenergia 4 роки тому +13

      In fact Matrox might be a more interesting company right now.
      Matrox was co-founded. A few months ago one of them packed up and sold his side of the company to the other guy. Things could get interesting if the one left with the company has interesting ambitions.

    • @danwhitear2440
      @danwhitear2440 4 роки тому

      They make the best in female hygiene products

    •  4 роки тому +1

      @Michael Hansen Now they are using Amd video chips with some exotic display outs and adapters

    • @silentbloodyslayer98
      @silentbloodyslayer98 4 роки тому

      @@allangibson8494 you mean 1993, there was no svga nor vga during that time

  • @Z0ku
    @Z0ku 4 роки тому +34

    Nice recap of an highly anticipated card of the early 2000's! Two things, one of the main reasons for the hype that Parhelia-512 would be great for gaming was the massive bandwith it had, 17.6GB/s (Retail) which was 7.2GB/s faster than Ti4600! That was really unheard at the time! Secondly Parhelia suffered greatly with the decision Matrox made of not including any occlusion culling tech. So the card just rendered everything in scene, not able to check if an abject would be visible to the gamer. That really saturated the bandwith a lot with unnecessary data.

    • @DFX2KX
      @DFX2KX 4 роки тому +1

      Not changing anything else, JUST adding that would have given the card a huge boost.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      Yup, they just included a quad memory channel and Fast Z clear.

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft 4 роки тому +66

    Matrox made gaming cards before the 2000s.
    Matrox Mystique series in the mid 90s. I had one then.

    • @retrogeek4372
      @retrogeek4372 4 роки тому +4

      I still have one. For 2D with a Voodoo...

    • @LastOneLeft99
      @LastOneLeft99 4 роки тому +2

      The "Mystake" was my first 3D card when I had no idea what I was doing. Trash. Couldn't even run GLQUake.

    • @robgaros2985
      @robgaros2985 4 роки тому +2

      I remember them being pretty popular also. Never had one of the cards, but I remember all the ads and high star retings for them in magazines.

    • @LastOneLeft99
      @LastOneLeft99 3 роки тому +2

      @Michal Zušťák Yes I stand by my statement of it being trash. I saved money and got a Voodoo 1 so I could finally play GLQuake

    • @thej3799
      @thej3799 3 роки тому +1

      Best 2d, but no open GL wrapper. So it couldn't run GLquake. I played a alpha port that was missing textures, and it showed a lot of promise that within the mystique there was a lot of power, but if they got drivers right, they could have competed with 3dfx.

  • @rdcrezz
    @rdcrezz 4 роки тому +140

    You say its the only card they marketed as a gaming card, but what about the Mystique? I had one of them back in the day and that was marketed as a gaming card.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 роки тому +33

      I do cover this slightly in my other Matrox video. I should really do a spin off video on the card.

    • @PJBonoVox
      @PJBonoVox 4 роки тому +6

      Not only that, but it came with pack in games. I had one.

    • @kyles8524
      @kyles8524 4 роки тому +6

      @Dr ROLFCOPTER! yeah the g400 and g450, they are actually better than a voodoo 3 3000. I have several cards I got in pallets from a salvage company and have tested both.The only thing I dont like about the g450 is even though it has 32mb of ram its split up into 2 monitor outputs so if you use 1 vga port its only 16 megs

    • @joseluki
      @joseluki 4 роки тому

      Lol it could have been marketet as a gaming card, but very few games had support for it, same for the matrox M3D (the one I had).

    • @jojojo8645
      @jojojo8645 4 роки тому

      @@PJBonoVox Ditto. Destruction Derby was actually the shit.

  • @dollardealtech768
    @dollardealtech768 4 роки тому +38

    Still usable. Not sure why anyone would want to use it, but it works.

    • @TheotanyaSama
      @TheotanyaSama 4 роки тому +1

      Well, for text editing, It can deal with it

    • @VGamingJunkieVT
      @VGamingJunkieVT 4 роки тому +1

      Technically, even the FX5200 works.

    • @speeedskater
      @speeedskater 3 роки тому

      still have this card in a editing rig, 3 monitors , works great,

    • @mackenziebullied4900
      @mackenziebullied4900 3 роки тому

      @@VGamingJunkieVT technically the OG ati wonder still works

  • @BigNerdLandon
    @BigNerdLandon 4 роки тому +66

    I really enjoy learning about more older or dare I say legacy GPU's. It's so interesting how far we came from cards like these.

    • @CommanderTato
      @CommanderTato 4 роки тому

      lol bro your frog avatar is so damn cool

    • @ahmadsb4358
      @ahmadsb4358 3 роки тому

      And nowadays we have apu that can work as good as a vga technology is continuely developing maybe in near futire we wont need vga anymore

    • @BigNerdLandon
      @BigNerdLandon 3 роки тому +1

      @@CommanderTato it's supposed to look like me. It was pepe working on a raspberry pi and inhaling the soldering fumes

    • @CommanderTato
      @CommanderTato 3 роки тому

      @@BigNerdLandon Hum, did it worth the sacrifice?

    • @BigNerdLandon
      @BigNerdLandon 3 роки тому +1

      @@CommanderTato absolutely

  • @taragwendolyn
    @taragwendolyn 4 роки тому +2

    Matrox actually got bought out by ATi shortly after the Parhelia came out. They're around in name, mostly, though their offices outside of Montreal are still there (or were last time I drove past the area). They focus mostly on large digital signage right now -- I'd be lying if I didn't say some part of me wants to buy the card with 16 DisplayPort outputs, and a whole bunch of DP 4x splitters, to see how a modern Windows or Linux OS would choke on a 48-screen display

  • @stonent
    @stonent 4 роки тому +13

    It's funny that today Matrox's bread and butter is the embedded G200 chip that's in almost every server. I have an old Cisco server from 2012 that has a G200 chip on it. We just bought some brand new Dell R740 servers at work a few months back, and they also have a G200 chip.

  • @Mikaa7150
    @Mikaa7150 4 роки тому +13

    my uncle was one of the people who worked on this card back in the day :)

    • @Mikaa7150
      @Mikaa7150 4 роки тому +9

      @mdx maybe, i know he works at nvidia now helping make RTX cards so maybe it was more the other people lol

    • @Bristecom
      @Bristecom 4 роки тому +6

      Cool! Matrox had the best overall image quality, especially compared to other cards with analog connections. Outside of 3D performance, it was the best graphics card for the time.

  • @Jonathan-fs7es
    @Jonathan-fs7es 4 роки тому +5

    9800 Pro owner here, when that card hit... it was amazing!!! Lasted far too long :) I replaced eventually with a 4870 IceQ or something.

  • @evilqtip7098
    @evilqtip7098 4 роки тому +7

    Yes the features were amaizing ..
    The bump mapping and details And colors
    made it spectacular over Nvidia soft blurry graphics.

    • @Bristecom
      @Bristecom 4 роки тому +3

      I remember going from my 1998 Matrox Mystique G200 to my new nVidia GeForce 4 Ti 4600 and noticing the analog image quality was actually WORSE than my 5 year old Matrox! That's when I gained a lot more respect for Matrox. I later bought a used Parhelia for cheap but eventually settled on an ATI Radeon X800 Pro which had good image quality and more powerful 3D. But without a doubt, Matrox had the best image quality for analog cards which is what I valued much more over higher frame rates in 3D games.

  • @WXSTANG
    @WXSTANG 4 роки тому +19

    Still have a Matrox G450... Image quality is still da bomb...

  • @VGamingJunkieVT
    @VGamingJunkieVT 4 роки тому +2

    You and LGR have to be my favorite channels for learning about old interesting tech, cheers.

  • @Chaosxinc
    @Chaosxinc 4 роки тому +4

    I was just reminiscing about Matrox, how they were the king at 2D cards back in the day, and remembering the last Matrox card I had, a G200 AGP with 8MB. Those were some interesting times. From what I could tell when I went to see if they were still around a few weeks ago, it looked like they were, sort of, but more a ghost town. I think they dabbled in making cards and external devices to split displays, but even the most recent one was maybe 10 years or so if I recall. Great timing on this video for myself.

  • @jhj22
    @jhj22 4 роки тому +62

    11:53 Did I hear right that he says: "...Crysis of it's day DAY it was Farc Cry"...

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 роки тому +16

      UA-cam audio bug. Should be resolved when the video is done processing.

    • @Sohzy
      @Sohzy 4 роки тому

      @The New Baris Berat Balci whats a wnr?

    • @jhj22
      @jhj22 4 роки тому

      @The New Baris Berat Balci Yeah... sadly.

    • @prla5400
      @prla5400 4 роки тому

      @The New Baris Berat Balci the fuck. I found nothing about windows

    • @VGamingJunkieVT
      @VGamingJunkieVT 4 роки тому

      Well, I hear "of its da-day" silly UA-cam.

  • @HystericalHuntress
    @HystericalHuntress 4 роки тому +3

    The feature-list of this card is almost like hearing of a hardware raytracing capable graphics card releasing back in 2010. So ahead of its time in some ways, but woefully behind in the fields that mattered most. Still pretty cool.

  • @Stoney3K
    @Stoney3K 4 роки тому +4

    The one killer title that sold a lot of Matrox cards was Flight Simulator 2004, because it offered very easy triple head support which was still very challenging for ATI and nVidia in that era.

  • @nexxusty
    @nexxusty 2 роки тому

    Love your channel brother.
    I have been watching your videos recently. Enjoying myself.

  • @Upgradeo8
    @Upgradeo8 4 роки тому +3

    The Matrox DigiSuite would be a great topic for discussion.
    We were the #1 Repair Group for systems and certified 3 motherboards specifically to handle the cards. Which were insanely expensive and required mindfulness of PCI Slot IRQ Assignments to ensure stability. ESPN was one of the first customers of these setups.

    • @d0ugk
      @d0ugk 4 роки тому

      I wouldn't be shocked if even win10 has at least basic support for it built in. Windows always tended to have built in drivers for matrox cards offering decent support, then you'd install the driver's from matrox for the extras. Unlike other graphics cards where u were stuck at something like 640x480 or 800x600 non accelerated 256 color standard vga till you loaded the drivers

  • @billyhatcher643
    @billyhatcher643 2 роки тому

    nice video and i also love the ty the tasmanian tiger music u had in the vid great choice of music

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby 4 роки тому +7

    I was sad when the Canadian ATi was acquired by AMD in 2006, then I searched for any PC hardware makers were still owned by Canadians and saw Matrox and started to cry...

    • @fadingbeleifs
      @fadingbeleifs 3 роки тому

      Eurocom is another little known PC manufacturer... I bought their Sky X4C... It's been a damn good one now for almost 2 years... Rock solid and reliable...

  • @frshunter
    @frshunter 4 роки тому +1

    I had a Matrox Millennium and I loved that thing in its day. Loved the video!

    • @raymondchan3587
      @raymondchan3587 4 роки тому

      That was the golden era of Matrox. 2D graphics king. S3 is scrap.

  • @captainwasel8377
    @captainwasel8377 4 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed watching the video and will be waiting for more videos about graphics cards and low budget builds :).

  • @haziqsembilanlima
    @haziqsembilanlima 4 роки тому +3

    Man that Supersampling is really awesome. Never seen such negligible performance hit with Supersampling on nvidia/amd/ati cards

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver 4 роки тому +10

    Be nice to see a similar view of the S3 cards of the same era.

    • @motalasuger
      @motalasuger 4 роки тому +1

      Still keeping my old s3 virge gx/2 in the basement along with my voodoo 2 card for nostalgia.

    • @m9078jk3
      @m9078jk3 4 роки тому +1

      Some of the S3 cards had MPEG video decoder card accessory boards (like for the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000, a Virge 325 chip model) so that they could play MPEG videos full screen on low end hardware like early Pentium's and 486 class PC's.
      These were great if you had video CD movies (they were available).
      Just play the .DAT files on them in a MPEG media player to run the movie.
      I even found a Packard Bell PC (Platinum 65 model) that had a Brooktree video decoder chip along side the S3 Virge 325 graphics chip on the motherboard.
      It also had a Analog TV Tuner card in it as well.

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 4 роки тому +29

    I'm a simple man, I see AGP, I click.

  • @AsianFlew
    @AsianFlew 2 роки тому +1

    Now that's a brand I hadn't thought about in decades! I remember Matrox as a solid graphics card for work environments, not so much for gaming unless you pair it with something like a Voodoo card. Nice to hear they are still around.

  • @reyaswilfred2228
    @reyaswilfred2228 4 роки тому

    Great video as always, thanks BBO :)

  • @madonemt
    @madonemt 2 роки тому

    I had one of these for flight sim over 3 monitors. This was back in the day before ultrawide monitors were a thing and it was amazing. Was fantastic for productivity too. Was way ahead of its time for what I needed. Civ and age of empires were damn good too. I still don't have as good a productivity setup even now but that will change sometime next Yr when I get an ultrawide. Great video!

  • @AS90AS90____
    @AS90AS90____ 4 роки тому

    Enjoyed the vid, unlucky with the storms!

  • @clownbaby7985
    @clownbaby7985 4 роки тому

    I like the old tech stuff, keep it up buddy.

  • @1050franco
    @1050franco 4 роки тому +8

    The blue-ground bug from Far Cry can be fixed by updating the game from 1.0 to 1.1 and so. It happened to me when i was playing with my old Geforce4 MX440.

    • @BudgetBuildsOfficial
      @BudgetBuildsOfficial  4 роки тому +3

      I have tried all versions from V1.0 to V1.4, still issues with the Matrox card

  • @raymondchan3587
    @raymondchan3587 4 роки тому +2

    Really sad, the last one I used was 8x agp G400 max which featuring bump-mapping at the time. Matrox Millenlium was the 2D king, the most impressing was the picture quality that beat all others competitors.

  • @patrick-aka-patski
    @patrick-aka-patski 4 роки тому +6

    Love when old hardware's getting its tribute in your videos. I wonder if there're Linux drivers for this card, too.

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 4 роки тому +8

    I wanted Matrox to release the G800, the first time I heard of that card was when the CEO of SNK said he was planning on releasing a new console in the early 2000s with a pentium 4 and dual Matrox G800s.
    3:01 this video went from pretty good to GOD MODE when the Sega GT 2002 music started to play

    • @matchmakerchris7617
      @matchmakerchris7617 3 роки тому

      Holy crap, that console sounds amazing. Too bad SNK exited the hardware market with their failed Hyper Neo Geo 64.

    • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
      @tHeWasTeDYouTh 3 роки тому

      @@matchmakerchris7617 Been doing a lot of research and looking back it seems the CEO of SNK was bs when he talked about the new Neo Geo hardware with a Pentium 4 and two G800. This was done in early 2000 before the company went under so I think he was trying to get more investors to give him money. As for the Hyper Neo Geo 64 a few months ago finally somebody took the hardware apart and mapped all the chips so we know how the thing actually works. It is literally SNK trying to do a sega model 2 but with no money. pretty sad

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 4 роки тому +3

    Really interesting, and really well made. Thank you for this bit of history made understandable to a layman like me.

  • @pip07200
    @pip07200 2 роки тому

    Thanks very much for this. I had a Matrox Millenium in my pre 2000 build; used it to run Falcon 4.0 :-D It was a pretty decent card, but was quickly overwhelmed by all the new 3D games coming out. When Parhelia was announced, it was too expensive for me, and so went for a Sapphire ATi 9500 upgrade.

  • @trustyvault13canteen32
    @trustyvault13canteen32 4 роки тому +5

    2:15 back when tech demos used comic sans

  • @andreikobylinsky
    @andreikobylinsky 4 роки тому

    So nostalgic! - I have some Matrox cards in my collection - PCI Matrox Mistique (1996), PCI Matrox G200 and AGP Matrox G450 - I even use for a while PCI G200 when my video card fails!

  • @littlejam5984
    @littlejam5984 4 роки тому +6

    "So we all heard about "
    Well actually never but it looks interesting xD

  • @kevinsmythers7784
    @kevinsmythers7784 4 роки тому

    Oh, the nostalgia of it all... not a gamer myself, but used a Parhelia with a Millenium G400 as a three monitor set up for Design work (CAD & Web mainly). Loved this card. Really crisp displays and (as you said) almost no OS support issues. Switched to nVidia when I could no longer get Matrox and still running 3x monitors but currently with a GT730 (4Gb running 2 mon) and GT610 (1Gb running 1) - contemplating an upgrade to a GTX 1660 6Gb and three new DP Iiyama monitors, even though I no longer work on design - kinda got used to the screen real estate of 5760 x 1080 :-) Great video - thanks for doing it.

  • @spyromaster2000
    @spyromaster2000 4 роки тому +1

    Sega GT 2002 music. Classy, you have my respect.

  • @maniatore2006
    @maniatore2006 4 роки тому

    Great Video :) my Last Matrox Card was The Matrox Mystique 220 with the game bundle. Later i changed to the Diamond Viper V550

  • @CaryGordon3k
    @CaryGordon3k 4 роки тому

    I remember having fond memories of the first PC I built that I had specced out with the Matrox Marvel G200-TV, as I wanted to do actual video editing at home and had some experience at work with the Matrox Digisuite MJPEG capture cards. I was impressed at the time, although as I recall there wasn't great support for video editing software beyond the bundled package. I did game a bit and wasn't unimpressed with what it could do, even though it likely wasn't the best available.
    In the end I think I ended up replacing the card with an ATI card and a Pinnacle capture card that I had gotten relatively cheaply through work, so it didn't end up being as good as I had hoped. Still it seemed pretty cutting edge at the time, as I recall it. always wondered what had happened to Matrox after I jumped ship, so thank you for the interesting history lesson.

  • @RasVoja
    @RasVoja 4 роки тому +1

    Pro 2d outpout, high refresh rate, early d3d and opengl, two vga/dvi out ... Was a pro league and my big love

  • @JanghanHong
    @JanghanHong 4 роки тому +14

    There is a second revision of the card, there's a node shrink, and it gets about 20% clock boost, 256MB VRAM, and keyed for AGP 8X slot.
    There was no market for it and I believe they were made mostly to do RMA on the 128MB 4X card that came out. It's almost impossible to find. I only got it after staring at eBay for a year.

  • @richbob9155
    @richbob9155 2 роки тому

    I love the kotor background music it fits great.

  • @MasterDrood
    @MasterDrood 4 роки тому +2

    Wow its being years since the last time I saw a Matrox card

  • @samuelchan699
    @samuelchan699 4 роки тому +1

    I bought a Matrox for multi-monitor support. At the time, no other maker had a card that did it as well. And the Matrox was the most stable video card I've used.... even more so than the Quadro I now use in my workstation.

  • @slob12
    @slob12 3 роки тому

    Good job I really found this interesting..I once owned a matrix G200

  • @alensabanovic747
    @alensabanovic747 4 роки тому

    A gem of a topic for 2020 :) thanks

  • @janquieldapper
    @janquieldapper 2 роки тому

    I remember in the work, around 2001, we use Compaq's with Matrox to work with CAD and some of 3D in gorgeous 20" monitors, good to remember this time!

  • @kaylaandjimbryant8258
    @kaylaandjimbryant8258 3 роки тому

    I saw an ad for them a couple of weeks back. Apparently they moved into machine vision space (manufacturing, automated assembly lines, etc). I was surprised to see they are still around. Back in the day I had the millenium card and it wasn't bad for the time.

  • @maximusoptimus2000
    @maximusoptimus2000 4 роки тому +7

    I was really hyped for the Parhelina back then. At that point, I had the g 400max. Btw it's a shame that we don't see Maxtrox anymore

    • @airgreek
      @airgreek 4 роки тому +1

      I had the G400max as well and it was the best for Duke Nukem 3D

    • @matthewjbauer1990
      @matthewjbauer1990 4 роки тому

      Matrox is still making graphics adapters, if you want to call them that. They are more in the market of making multi-monitor PCI-e/PCI extenders for the onboard graphics chips. They make the "Graphics eXphansion" series and the "Mura IPX/MPX" and they still make the M9120/9128, M9140/9148 multi-monitor adapters for PCI/PCIe. That said, the Matrox PCIe display adapters max out at 1080p with 512mb RAM so only niche (I think OEM specifically) applications would use them as I can't fathom anyone both business or consumer who would get one on purpose.

  • @enilenis
    @enilenis 4 роки тому

    Love my Matrox Mystique G200. Was my first GPU. Original card went bad few years ago, but I couldn't let go of it, so I bought another one. Even have the 8mb VRAM upgrade. In 2D it can process HD windows desktop applications effortlessly. Gaming-wise, best kept at 800x600. I loved running demoscene files on a G200. Matrox chips were popular with shader junkies.

  • @DrDrastic_
    @DrDrastic_ 4 роки тому

    Happy 3 years being on UA-cam

  • @spyder000069
    @spyder000069 4 роки тому +1

    Never owned or knew anyone with a Matrox card. I went through the years of 3dfx and then straight to ATI.

  • @jean-benoistbrault1549
    @jean-benoistbrault1549 4 роки тому

    Dat kotor taris cantina music in the backgroung, love it

  • @Aarkwrite
    @Aarkwrite 2 роки тому

    I remember wanting one of these back in the day.

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 3 роки тому +1

    Anyone here remember the mythical Matrox G800 that was cancelled. All we heard was rumors and I even held on buying a new GPU to wait for the G800.......damn
    also 2:58 that is Sega GT 2002 menu music in the background. I have not thought about that game in more than 10 years!!!

  • @catriona_drummond
    @catriona_drummond 4 роки тому +1

    Proundly running a Matrox M9138 Graphics card in my work PC. It's awesome :)

  • @keithwhisman
    @keithwhisman 4 роки тому

    I had the Matrox Mystique and it was a fantastic video card. It was great with games way back then.

  • @MrROTD
    @MrROTD 4 роки тому

    I remember playing with a matrox editing system at college it was amazing technology back then when video tapes were the norm

  • @charlesturner897
    @charlesturner897 4 роки тому +2

    This is convenient timing, I just installed drivers for a matrox G200eH today on my Haswell based server

    • @jub8891
      @jub8891 4 роки тому +1

      google is watching

  • @Vranish76
    @Vranish76 4 роки тому

    I love the Ty the Tasmanian Tiger music.

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en 3 роки тому

    Never heard of it. Quite enjoyed this 😛

  • @darthwarren4599
    @darthwarren4599 4 роки тому

    Love the kotor music in background

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 23 дні тому

    My G400 was the first dualhead card, and it worked fine for gaming at the time.
    2x 19" Viewsonic Pro CRTs running at 1280X960 was amazing! :)

  • @lettmons
    @lettmons 4 роки тому +1

    Matrox Mystique 4MB PCI still sits on my shelf

  • @paul1978g
    @paul1978g 4 роки тому

    Matrox I seem to recall made a pretty well regarded gaming card called the "Millenium". The strength of this gaming card was that unlike the Voodoo 2 or similar, Matrox were one of the first (with the card called the "All-In-One-Wonder) to combine a 2D and a 3D card on the same PCB. This may sound like an obvious thing to do now, but back in those days (I'm talking 90's) 2D and 3D cards were sold separately and used an external passthrough cable to conjoin the two cards before a final cable sent the image generated by BOTH cards to the CRT monitor. All good, or so it sounds. The down side was the cost. Most people were used to replacing just the 3D card, and had the same 2D card for years (I used an S3 Savage for quite a while, firstly with a single Voodoo 2, and latterly with a PAIR of Voodoo 2 in SLI) and the eyewatering cost of the Millenium and then the "All-In-One-Wonder" which came before it meant most people couldn't afford it.

  • @AW-wy3xv
    @AW-wy3xv 4 роки тому +2

    i used to work for matrox, it was impossible for them to compete against the big, they just had a good start in the gaming community.

  • @manaphylv100
    @manaphylv100 4 роки тому

    I actually had one of these in around 2003, before I replaced it with the Radeon 9700 Pro soon after. Local computer shops were clearing out these outdated cards after the Radeon 9000 series came out, and IIRC, I got mine for the same price as the Radeon 9200. The image quality was incredible, but sadly, the same couldn't be said about game support, so I regretted not spending a little more for the Radeon 9500 instead, which was also on clearance then (and can be soft-modded to 9700).

  • @typicalpctech6674
    @typicalpctech6674 4 роки тому +4

    Do you know the history of Trident video cards ? I'm probably able to just type that in the search, but you covered this very well. Nice Job! :D

  • @surfinboy23
    @surfinboy23 4 роки тому

    Really nice seeing old hardware that can still cut it in today's world. I wonder if there is anyone one out there who's made a home brew driver for this card. It would be cool to see what other things it could be made to do.

  • @reallybigmistake
    @reallybigmistake 4 роки тому +8

    Make a video on the final PowerVR card, the Kyro II. I wanted to Kyro III to come out only for ST to pull out last minute and force Imagination Technologies to go mobile

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 4 роки тому +2

      PowerVR had some potential. Some really interesting tech on their cards.

    • @adamn.4111
      @adamn.4111 4 роки тому

      I had a Kyro II. I couldn't believe how cheap it was for the performance it had. I was sad to see them not develop that concept further.

    • @faolor6468
      @faolor6468 4 роки тому +1

      Power be still makes phone gpus though, right?

    • @reallybigmistake
      @reallybigmistake 4 роки тому

      @@faolor6468 yeah but after arm started selling Mali, Apple started making their own GPU and QUALCOMM has the Adreno only a few Chinese companies are using the PowerVR. Think they might get killed off in a few years.

  • @thegamingphoenix98
    @thegamingphoenix98 4 роки тому

    I remember my Matrox G400, was bumping shogo and Quake 2 maxed out. Good old times

  • @MrJohnLongbow
    @MrJohnLongbow 4 роки тому

    Nice Transport Tycoon music 😀

  • @sparkyenergia
    @sparkyenergia 4 роки тому +1

    The radeon 9700 might have done a significant amount of damage to matrox but really it was the DVI connector that killed Matrox.
    If you are old enough to connect your monitors up with VGA or BNC cables then you would remember how blurry ATi's picture was and how washed out Nvidias picture was compared to Matrox's amazing picture quality. But then came the digital DVI connector it levelled the playing field. Leaving Matrox's performance (FPS) as a supreme chink in its armour.

  • @layersofirony
    @layersofirony 4 роки тому

    Digging the Sega GT 2002 music

  • @kathleendelcourt8136
    @kathleendelcourt8136 4 роки тому +1

    I remember I was so hyped about this card. All the hardware magazines were feeding the hype train as Matrox was promising ground breaking new technologies. A huge 512 bits memory bus, super high quality and fast AA, displacement mapping, multi-texturing etc... And it all died when the first reviews came out.
    By the way, Super Sampling (not the fast FAA 16x) was not exclusive to the Parhelia. It was available on all Geforces and Radeons of the time, it was in fact the first type of AA to be used by graphics cards. But it was so taxing on resources that non one really bothered turning it on.

  • @eltoncdb
    @eltoncdb 4 роки тому

    I did have a Matrox card + 3dfx voodoo2, it was super dope many guys in my dorm come to play tomb raider!

  • @Xaltar_
    @Xaltar_ 4 роки тому +1

    Ran quite a few Matrox cards back in the day from the G200 all the way through to a PCIe Parhelia. We mostly sold them to clients in the graphics space, multiple monitor support, great resolution support and very high quality image production. Not great for gaming but I had access to the cards through work where I could usually pick up a previous generation we still had in stock for next to nothing. The "Gaming" cards we stocked never stayed in stock long enough to get a good deal on. The Parhelia was impressive next to the productivity focused G series we sold a lot of but sadly was eclipsed (badly) by much faster Radeon cards and even the Geforce 4 was faster. Most people gaming back then were focused on resolution and quality settings, this was the era where 30fps was considered the bar and you pushed for that at the highest resolution and quality settings you could get out of your card. The Parhelia just didn't have the prestige of Geforce or Radeon and as such, many gamers overlooked it, even if they picked up a lower end Nvidia or ATI GPU that was actually slower. By the time Parhelia was phased out you could pick them up pretty cheap, cheaper than slower, lower tier cards from the competition but only a few people really knew that and by this time there were already games that wouldn't run properly on the card thanks to poor DX9 support.
    If a game ran on openGL the parhelia did well but a lot of titles shifted the DX route thanks to the huge jump in features from DX8 to DX9. Microsoft really wanted to push XP as THE gaming OS and did all they could to make DX the API of choice for AAA developers.
    Great video, lots of nostalgia here.

    • @primus711
      @primus711 2 роки тому

      Nobody did that we ran fast as possible 60fps was bar u basically keep most settings high turned aa off
      30fps was doom era

  • @ditroia2777
    @ditroia2777 4 роки тому

    That ATI demo brings back memories, I had/have an 8500.

  • @jubeh
    @jubeh 4 роки тому

    Loved it, do SGI, another 3D heartbreak story

  • @DeadlyMuffinCat
    @DeadlyMuffinCat 4 роки тому

    hell yeah, love that sega gt for the original xbox music!

  • @MadMonarchYT
    @MadMonarchYT 4 роки тому

    11:54 nice rofl, dope vid

  • @ajshell2
    @ajshell2 4 роки тому

    I love the use of KOTOR music here.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 4 роки тому

    I remember a friend of mine bought this card on a sale, and really regraded it for gaming wishing he had gone ATI like I had back then, but such is life. Also bummer on the internet issues. you might want to look into an unlimited mobile data plan if you have good coverage in your area.

  • @ambigousBarrel
    @ambigousBarrel 2 роки тому

    I got this card with an old Pentium 4 541 and 2gigs of DDR. I love it for some reason it, I know it's not as compatible as some cards but it is a rather uncommon card now and has a great feature set for a direct x 8.1 GPU :) Runs Need for Speed Underground as well which surprised me as a lot of people say that this card is good for anything from the late 90's up to 2002 :)

  • @thumbwarriordx
    @thumbwarriordx 4 роки тому +2

    These were particularly attractive in a world where ATI and NVidia could only support two displays per card. That era did not take long to end. Though 3D surround spanning did take quite a few more years.
    If you were gonna need an extra graphics card anyway because the Matrox ain't a performer... You could run 4 displays off two NV/ATI cards instead.

  • @soopaghetto
    @soopaghetto 4 роки тому

    Awesome throwback to Sega GT!

  • @FullyBuffered
    @FullyBuffered 4 роки тому

    Excellent work man; really well put together! Loving the Matrox series, I knew the cards were around but they were never really on my radar in terms of gaming performance. Good to see they are getting the attention they deserve now. Things like the W7 Drivers installing hassle free with Steam support are the kinds of things that would personally impress me the most. Legacy support is such an underrated thing.

  • @SebaKPaul
    @SebaKPaul Рік тому

    I actually played WoW with this card, cleared Black Temple and Sunwell Plateau, and went up to Ulduar in the Lich King expanssion :))). This was actually one of best video cards for 2D graphic arts, photography, the reason I used it.