Sorry, it took so long to get this last guide out. My father is in town and as you may hear in the video here and there, I have not been feeling the best but Bismarck and I did the best we could to get this recorded and out to ya'll as fast as possible. I want to take a quick moment and thank HalkHunter for putting in a lot of time in an effort to make this happen, as well as our guest Bismarck, Bear, Zuit, and Hambone. This endeavor was a lot of sleepless nights... and I am gonna go collapse now.
There's a cool history behind the Iacobi's J8A. Ian Iacobi was part of the Swedish Voluntary Flying Regiment that fought on the Finnish side in the Winter War and was in charge of the air defence of the Northern Finland. 2nd Lieutenant Iacobi shot down a Soviet I-15 in Finnish Lapland in January 1940. That made him the first ever Swede to score an aerial victory.
I love how you nailed the pronunciation of Finnish airplanes. Correction about the translation, Mörkö is commonly associated with like booky man. I’m sure that it’s also used to call a ghost somewhere.
Bo, a thing to the 110 you might have forgotten: there‘s a techtree one coming in the next update, with a German skin as it will be in the German techtree :D
10:45 also, you can grab a VPAF skin off Live and then go ham against F-4C’s in uptiers: just like Nam, they don’t seem to understand Energy fighting...
@@Darelumga China’s basically 2 half nations in a trenchcoat right now. We should really have MM work by flag rather than Tree: there’s no rational reason to have a Taiwanese F-5A and a CCP J-7 in the same lineup and on the same team.
@@Darelumga yes, that's sure, but they could put some mass-produced vehicles that was really used by those nations, for example gaijin could've put the 2 ebrs they added INSIDE the tech tree, but they're too lazy to feed a NATO nation, since they're russian
To answer the question about G.55S in Naval : absolutely worthless for torpedo bombing. The german air-dropped torpedoes have a very low launch speed and fairly low explosive power, meaning you have to dump a lot of speed while in range of enemy AA and won't even do much to larger ships. On top of that, torpedoing is much less efficient than high alt bombing in naval.
As for MM.406 : a completely overpowered aircraft. What it doesn't outturn it completely outpowers, and the armament is much more lethal than on the french MS.406.
I love how literally hours after this was uploaded. WarThunder just announced the release of "New Power" tomorrow. Meaning there are now about to be more premium vehicles in game.
Ki-45 HEI/TEI is a monster bomber interceptor in SIM mode. It's super easy, extremely fast for bombers and 20mm musik cannons shred smaller bombers in 15 shots.
i really like the more serious tone of these vids, dont get me wrong. i like the regular goofy stuff too. its just nice to see another side every once and a while.
the duck can turn alright but its engines arent strong enough to sustain it in a longer dogfight. most of the plane on plane kills youll get in it are people dim enough to headon you
I couldn't wait for this video as the discount coupon I had for the IAR-81-C wouldn't last forever. LOL I bought it at 75% off, so I am glad you two gave it a "buy." 🙂 So far it has worked well for me.
@@scotthammond3230 Thanks for the suggestion. It does look interesting. Now I have decide if it is worth 3 dollars. The price this Thursday evening, NOV 19, 2020.
The 55s was the plane I used to single handedly grind the entire Italian aviation tree up to the jets, at which point I dropped a talisman on the g14 and re2005
The interesting thing about the Finnish Mörkö-Morane is that the Klimov M-105 engines that they used were scavenged from captured Soviet Yak-1 and LaGG-3 fighters. The Morane-Saulnier MS 406 was quite underpowered, since the Hispano-Suiza 12Y engine it had could only manage about 850 hp, but the M-105 could put out about 1,100 hp, which really transformed the Morane into an excellent fighter. Why could the M-105 fit into the Morane at all? Because the M-105 is, for all intents and purposes, a massively upgraded Hispano-Suiza 12Y engine. The Soviets imported these engines from France and licence-built them as the Klimov M-100 engine (used in the SB 2M-100 bomber), which was then upgraded into the M-103 (used on the SB 2M-103), and finally into the prolific M-105 used on many Soviet warplanes (the Yaks, the LaGG-3, and the Pe-2 all used it).
I could be wrong but I think the tail layout of the Pyörremyrsky is heavily inspired by Italian design. It looks quite similar for example to the tail of a Reggiane 2k series and I believe they operated a number of those as well.
Man I’ll be honest I grabbed the Hawk lll during the 50% sale with the lowest expectations; I just liked it having bombs and retractable gear at such a low br. Very first game I destroyed 2 bases and killed 6 players, and landed right as the “enemy lost all its vehicles” popped up; for the gg. It was by far the best match I’ve had in my very short 99 day tenure(as of today’s login) In WT.. so if you’re new and want a fun low br plane; I would personally recommend the Hawk lll. Y’all have a good day!
In my opinion the MöRKö-MORANE is way underrated. You guys say it's a buy, I say its a must have. It absolutely destroys. If you take it into ground rb to dogfight you'll also often get confused for an La5 which will allow you to throw them off pretty significantly getting you the kill. Buy it. You won't regret it.
Used the narval as my french tree grinder for a while. Honestly prefer using the bombs on it in air rb and going into a dive to gain up speed, bomb a base, and then use that speed to get into the fight. Honestly worked better for me than going straight into a fight or going for interception off the bat.
The French yak-3 is a absolut buy for me. Just got it on sale for 800 ge and man is it a beast... I probably say so because I'm stunningly good in yaks
Ok I have told my friend that Spitfires are super easy to fly and play, and I fought him in the same spitfire expect he had the British and I had the Italian. And I did about as good as he did even though he had flown it much more then I did. And I did really well for my first time with it. I would say if you need to get through the Italian tech tree get the Italian spitfire!! Worth it!!
ive had the S.O.8000 since it came out and honestly its my second favorite plane to fly in the game (behind the HS-129 B-3). Im suprised you didnt mention another semi unique thing about it. The fact that it doesnt have ailerons. It uses small airbrakes on the wings that do the job or rolling the aircraft. But no ailerons whatsoever
I would say the J29d is a bit for sure. Having flown it a ton. Those guns are just devastating in air battles. And you can maneuver with all but a couple of the jets you see
My go-to Swedish aircraft for grinding rank IV and V in Air AB has been the Saab T18B-1. Slap a 1400 GE talisman on the thing, and make it even more absurd than it already is. 148 spawns, only been shot down 79 times, but have shot down 135 enemy fighters. There's always somebody who thinks it's a good idea to stall climb right under you :-P
I got the c.r.42 for free when Italian planes came out and its great. The firepower isnt that great but .50 cals still do good damage because they are still higher caliber than what most biplanes get
I got the iaf vauture for the sale (35$), and I was having problems with SL. I planed to wait for a sale and then buy the yak 3, but I finished reserching the hole rank 4, and needed about 1,000,000 SL to start researching rank 5. If you are having problems with SL, this is a strong buy.
Hey bo time gaming im your biggest fan i have been watching you for 4 years and i love videos and when im older i will donate a lot of money to you because you are 1 of my favorite UA-camrs. I love the dad jokes and stickboy screams. And your funny commentary while you guys play.
hard to use tho in my experience. i cant ever get a kill but at least i average like 3-5 assists per game. with if im lucky the occasional fire or pilot snipe
Its not your falt but i used your link to the store and added my acount and now i cant buy anything form the store it just keeps reloading the same page when i click buy
Does anybody noticed that the premium Bf 110 G-4 of the italian tech tree is nearly "just" a skin...As when you "jump" on cockpit view the radar antenna are just not visible at all... :/ Even if it is great to add it and a nice work notably for the cockpit ! Personnaly I will just wait for it to be added in the german tech tree line "for free"...
Being a fairly broken person RL; I don't do fighters much since I become the fat slow gazelle. Where I do decently at is with attackers. Would I be asking too much for a video about attack planes and bombers? Thanks for the great videos.
Confirming "Pyörremyrsky" = Whirlwind... and it does exist in Tikkakoski airmuseum. Also Mörkö is more "Boogey" as in "boogeyman" rather than "ghost" (which would be "Aave" or "Haamu").
Sorry, it took so long to get this last guide out. My father is in town and as you may hear in the video here and there, I have not been feeling the best but Bismarck and I did the best we could to get this recorded and out to ya'll as fast as possible. I want to take a quick moment and thank HalkHunter for putting in a lot of time in an effort to make this happen, as well as our guest Bismarck, Bear, Zuit, and Hambone. This endeavor was a lot of sleepless nights... and I am gonna go collapse now.
It's ok mr. Bo
I hope your dad gets better
All perfectly understandable Bo, now get that sleep.
Bo, is the T26E1-1 and the Leo 1 worth grinding?
Keep up the good work Bo! We all appreciate your content very much. Stay safe and feel better soon!
I would like to thank Bismarck, from the bottom of my heart, for not singing.
Lmao
47:44 Mörkö means bogeyman not ghost. Source: i'm finnish.
can agree
And Pyörremyrsky would translate to Hurricane?
@@nantarg Yes it can also mean whirlwind or tornado
@@nookambient7052 Tornado could also be tornaado
What an awesome name for a plane
While Pyörremyrsky wasn't very successful, its wing profile was used again in Finnish Valmet Vihuri trainer aircraft.
There's a cool history behind the Iacobi's J8A. Ian Iacobi was part of the Swedish Voluntary Flying Regiment that fought on the Finnish side in the Winter War and was in charge of the air defence of the Northern Finland. 2nd Lieutenant Iacobi shot down a Soviet I-15 in Finnish Lapland in January 1940. That made him the first ever Swede to score an aerial victory.
Thanks i was wondering about that
Love Bismarck's efficiency. Straight to business.
Would you expect anything less from a German?
Ahh a video featuring Bismarck again, 2020 sure saved all the good news for the last few months.
listen, i get accents and everything, but everytime bo says "eye-talian" a part of me died.
I love how you nailed the pronunciation of Finnish airplanes. Correction about the translation, Mörkö is commonly associated with like booky man. I’m sure that it’s also used to call a ghost somewhere.
Bo, a thing to the 110 you might have forgotten: there‘s a techtree one coming in the next update, with a German skin as it will be in the German techtree :D
And most importantly he forget to say it has a happy face
The combination of Bismarck’s aviation knowledge and Bo’s um... Bo-ness? made this video great
Great things ALWAYS happen when Bismarck and Bo collaborate
Best Warthunder premium guide on UA-cam! History, how it performs in game. Great job, Bo!
Great vid Bo & Bismark. A really good end to a great series. Honestly i love that Bismark cracks himself up.
Just watching the US plane guide, and than This shows up! Thanks for it!
It's neat to learn some about the aircraft that I didn't really know about watching these. Good work Bo
10:45 also, you can grab a VPAF skin off Live and then go ham against F-4C’s in uptiers: just like Nam, they don’t seem to understand Energy fighting...
It's depressing how little effort they put on those tech trees
That are new Nations
@@Darelumga
China’s basically 2 half nations in a trenchcoat right now. We should really have MM work by flag rather than Tree: there’s no rational reason to have a Taiwanese F-5A and a CCP J-7 in the same lineup and on the same team.
@@Darelumga yes, that's sure, but they could put some mass-produced vehicles that was really used by those nations, for example gaijin could've put the 2 ebrs they added INSIDE the tech tree, but they're too lazy to feed a NATO nation, since they're russian
To answer the question about G.55S in Naval : absolutely worthless for torpedo bombing. The german air-dropped torpedoes have a very low launch speed and fairly low explosive power, meaning you have to dump a lot of speed while in range of enemy AA and won't even do much to larger ships. On top of that, torpedoing is much less efficient than high alt bombing in naval.
As for MM.406 : a completely overpowered aircraft. What it doesn't outturn it completely outpowers, and the armament is much more lethal than on the french MS.406.
I’ve been waiting for this one to come out for a bit. I’m so excited it’s here now
I love how literally hours after this was uploaded. WarThunder just announced the release of "New Power" tomorrow. Meaning there are now about to be more premium vehicles in game.
Ki-45 HEI/TEI is a monster bomber interceptor in SIM mode. It's super easy, extremely fast for bombers and 20mm musik cannons shred smaller bombers in 15 shots.
I was wondering that as well with the Bf 110. I haven't had a chance to try it and sim but with the setup and the radar. I ould only imagine.
I got the pyorremyrsky so I could use the Swedish tree, plus I love Finland. Little did I know that it was such a good plane
i really like the more serious tone of these vids, dont get me wrong. i like the regular goofy stuff too. its just nice to see another side every once and a while.
I love how this game creates actual knowledge on aircraft history.
Thank you for these, Bo! I found myself checking your old guides often enough, it's amazing the have these new updated ones at hand!
Bismarck's French pronunciation is on spot
the duck can turn alright but its engines arent strong enough to sustain it in a longer dogfight. most of the plane on plane kills youll get in it are people dim enough to headon you
The Narval in Warthunder air combat: Like shooting at birds with Buck Shot. If you hit, no more bird.
100% agree on the G.55S. Such an amazing aircraft. I learned how to properly fly and aim in RB on that thing.
Thanks again for these wonderful guides Bo, super helpful in planning future purchases, and in validating previous buys.
48:22 Bo gets his mind blown about something. 😂😂
49:30 Bis making Bo look like an ass. 😂😂😂🤣
Good stuff Bo and Bis.
I have now enough bonds, XP-50 or P-40 lafayette?
Bismarck is right, the VL Pyörremyrsky is in a museum in Tikkakoski, next to an actual bf-109..
I couldn't wait for this video as the discount coupon I had for the IAR-81-C wouldn't last forever. LOL
I bought it at 75% off, so I am glad you two gave it a "buy." 🙂
So far it has worked well for me.
Find the German skin on the market. It's awesome.
@@scotthammond3230 Thanks for the suggestion. It does look interesting. Now I have decide if it is worth 3 dollars. The price this Thursday evening, NOV 19, 2020.
The 55s was the plane I used to single handedly grind the entire Italian aviation tree up to the jets, at which point I dropped a talisman on the g14 and re2005
hey bo thank you for a great video
and also nice to see bismark back in video
keep up great work on getting video thanks you well done
I got a 75% discount HS 129 and bought it for 300 Gold, Wort it
The interesting thing about the Finnish Mörkö-Morane is that the Klimov M-105 engines that they used were scavenged from captured Soviet Yak-1 and LaGG-3 fighters. The Morane-Saulnier MS 406 was quite underpowered, since the Hispano-Suiza 12Y engine it had could only manage about 850 hp, but the M-105 could put out about 1,100 hp, which really transformed the Morane into an excellent fighter.
Why could the M-105 fit into the Morane at all? Because the M-105 is, for all intents and purposes, a massively upgraded Hispano-Suiza 12Y engine. The Soviets imported these engines from France and licence-built them as the Klimov M-100 engine (used in the SB 2M-100 bomber), which was then upgraded into the M-103 (used on the SB 2M-103), and finally into the prolific M-105 used on many Soviet warplanes (the Yaks, the LaGG-3, and the Pe-2 all used it).
Always good to see Bismarck :)
Looove to hear the history parts by Bismarck!
I could be wrong but I think the tail layout of the Pyörremyrsky is heavily inspired by Italian design. It looks quite similar for example to the tail of a Reggiane 2k series and I believe they operated a number of those as well.
Man I’ll be honest I grabbed the Hawk lll during the 50% sale with the lowest expectations; I just liked it having bombs and retractable gear at such a low br.
Very first game I destroyed 2 bases and killed 6 players, and landed right as the “enemy lost all its vehicles” popped up; for the gg.
It was by far the best match I’ve had in my very short 99 day tenure(as of today’s login)
In WT.. so if you’re new and want a fun low br plane; I would personally recommend the
Hawk lll.
Y’all have a good day!
You guys should think about putting the Text at the top right instead of the top left, so we can see the energy management characteristics, etc
In my opinion the MöRKö-MORANE is way underrated. You guys say it's a buy, I say its a must have. It absolutely destroys. If you take it into ground rb to dogfight you'll also often get confused for an La5 which will allow you to throw them off pretty significantly getting you the kill. Buy it. You won't regret it.
Used the narval as my french tree grinder for a while. Honestly prefer using the bombs on it in air rb and going into a dive to gain up speed, bomb a base, and then use that speed to get into the fight. Honestly worked better for me than going straight into a fight or going for interception off the bat.
Hi bo, will u play the me-262 agin?
The French yak-3 is a absolut buy for me. Just got it on sale for 800 ge and man is it a beast... I probably say so because I'm stunningly good in yaks
Thanks! Love these Bo and team!
Ok I have told my friend that Spitfires are super easy to fly and play, and I fought him in the same spitfire expect he had the British and I had the Italian. And I did about as good as he did even though he had flown it much more then I did. And I did really well for my first time with it. I would say if you need to get through the Italian tech tree get the Italian spitfire!! Worth it!!
these vids were amazing Bo
ive had the S.O.8000 since it came out and honestly its my second favorite plane to fly in the game (behind the HS-129 B-3). Im suprised you didnt mention another semi unique thing about it. The fact that it doesnt have ailerons. It uses small airbrakes on the wings that do the job or rolling the aircraft. But no ailerons whatsoever
i think those are called spoilerons, and they are used on top tier jets
@@Abi-fo7gh that's why I said "semi unique" lol
Hey Bo, Bis, great job! Question: why do you think the Hungarians are in the Italian tech tree?
I'm half fin and I needed the 2 Finnish aircraft. I got both of them recently and they do not disappoint.
I would say the J29d is a bit for sure. Having flown it a ton. Those guns are just devastating in air battles. And you can maneuver with all but a couple of the jets you see
Bo, your time and effort with these guides really shows. I really appreciate what you've done.
The vatour isn't there anymore, it's a slightly larger and faster plane now with two crew more or less the same thing
Thank you for the long times of hard work, you can rest easy now
Nice video Dude ! thank you for the content.
My go-to Swedish aircraft for grinding rank IV and V in Air AB has been the Saab T18B-1. Slap a 1400 GE talisman on the thing, and make it even more absurd than it already is. 148 spawns, only been shot down 79 times, but have shot down 135 enemy fighters. There's always somebody who thinks it's a good idea to stall climb right under you :-P
vatour is worth it indeed ,used it 4 weeks to grind whole French air tree ,did it in a week
I got the c.r.42 for free when Italian planes came out and its great. The firepower isnt that great but .50 cals still do good damage because they are still higher caliber than what most biplanes get
I find the Chinese Ki-84 very hard to fly because it faces Japan almost every time and gets swarmed by other Ki-84 and A7M
I got the 109G-2 after a 75% discount coupon dropped out of nowhere. Best deal ever!
I got the iaf vauture for the sale (35$), and I was having problems with SL. I planed to wait for a sale and then buy the yak 3, but I finished reserching the hole rank 4, and needed about 1,000,000 SL to start researching rank 5. If you are having problems with SL, this is a strong buy.
No I've contacted gaijin about the affiliate link and I'm on Xbox and have not gotten an answer at all is there any way I can get some help ?
Challer's Yak-9T is also available on the marketplace and I cannot stress enough just how good it is.
Hey bo time gaming im your biggest fan i have been watching you for 4 years and i love videos and when im older i will donate a lot of money to you because you are 1 of my favorite UA-camrs. I love the dad jokes and stickboy screams. And your funny commentary while you guys play.
I bought the french yak 3 on a sale and that thing is an absolute monster
hard to use tho in my experience. i cant ever get a kill but at least i average like 3-5 assists per game. with if im lucky the occasional fire or pilot snipe
I've knocked out Centurions with the Italian duck. I absolutely love that plane.
Its not your falt but i used your link to the store and added my acount and now i cant buy anything form the store it just keeps reloading the same page when i click buy
sadly the shenyang has lost its edge as it faces 9.3 which is mostly supersonic jets now, they have flares too which makes you're missiles useless
Hey bo can you do a squadron guide I think newer players would benefit in having one
Would you say the Marcolin's C.R.42 CN is a Buy-plane?
49:34 Did I miss something or was Bismarck laughing because Bo said it stood for hurricane when he meant to say it translated to hurricane?
look at the clip again....
@@chaos6839 What? "A storm can be a hurricane"?
Dislikes are Russian MiG 17s without the afterburner
Can't believe the didn't cover the Swedish lasagna camo on the J8A
G.55S : Have u ever taken this to Naval combat?
Have Bo ever played Italian naval at all, or any naval recently?
also i would recommend in british aircrafts Spitfire MK.IIA Venture I, amazing plane
praying for a 2022 version!!!
Excellent french accent for Bismarck :D !
Bo saying $9.99: "nai-nighy-nai"
Bo what about the ships? I know you don't play them all that often
Does anyone know when the game will have offers?
For the Vautour if you're not willing to spend $50 just wait for sales, you can get it for half the price.
Hey bo i luv all your videos but i still cant figure out whats a good bomb fuze can you pls tell me a good bomb fuze ok bye bye :)
Does anybody noticed that the premium Bf 110 G-4 of the italian tech tree is nearly "just" a skin...As when you "jump" on cockpit view the radar antenna are just not visible at all... :/ Even if it is great to add it and a nice work notably for the cockpit !
Personnaly I will just wait for it to be added in the german tech tree line "for free"...
The free german one should be in the game tommorow - when the update drops
@@philipb.3758 are you sure the update is tommorow? The new battlepass is starting tommorow but I haven't seen anything official on the update.
i am pretty much a noob but IAR is one of the most used planes i had and have most kills with but also the most deaths with so yea buy it
40:56 more expensive j21
Good Video!
Will you make a Naval premium guide?
Did you forget the J29F, also at 8,7?
Not a premium
What is a good mode to play when you want to fly in formations with friends and destroy bases?
Sim. Sometimes
Please don’t ruin sim even more
does bo do the backround gameplay?
Pyörremyrsky is hurricane/tornado in finnish
Being a fairly broken person RL; I don't do fighters much since I become the fat slow gazelle. Where I do decently at is with attackers. Would I be asking too much for a video about attack planes and bombers? Thanks for the great videos.
15 minutes after post. Feels good to early.
Confirming "Pyörremyrsky" = Whirlwind... and it does exist in Tikkakoski airmuseum. Also Mörkö is more "Boogey" as in "boogeyman" rather than "ghost" (which would be "Aave" or "Haamu").
Can you play the S.O.8000? I don't think I've ever seen it on a video? :))
Can you play the TU-4?
I grinded hole italian tree no premiums and idk how to play jets ( i know how to dogfight but the rockets... )
the AAMs? Luci Antonio
@@waj-s2b yeah those aim rockets from g91's are so unfair or sea hawks