Pavlich is freos best ever player, so fyfe won two brownlows, so what !! He gets the ball and usually turns it over, lots of Wasted possessions.. i noticed a long time ago that Freo usually win when he dosent play as he always seems to get injured, fyfe is completely overrated. and Ben cousins dident win a premiership in 2005, it was 2006 research your facts better..!!
It's always interesting when someone says they think Gary Ablett Junior was the better player. Often they're letting Ablett Snr personal life bias their view and also never actually saw him play live. As someone who been at the games watching both playing at their absolute peak, sorry there is just no debate. Ablett senior was simply more skillful, explosive, exhilarating and most of all unstoppable then his son. If you think stats and decorations are what decide the better player you don't really understand why people watch football. Junior was great, but we've had quite a few champions like him (superb midfielders) over the years. There has only ever been one Gary Ablett Snr.
agree, god was astounding; although to have his son in a serious conversation about this is remarkable. god's run off the flank and his fierceness at the ball allied to his freak marking and goal tally edge him over jesus. amazingly, i rekkun if nathan had either his dad's or brother's passion to play he might have eclipsed both! that said, polly farmer was a step up again and perhaps one of the greatest players ever - how could he be overlooked???
Ablett Snr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games and he holds the record for the highest goals per game average for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he was a wingman-half forward flanker. The last 81 games of his career he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game at full forward and he is the only player to win the Coleman Medal and kick 100 goals three straight seasons.
He often looked like he was a man playing against boy's. I've never seen a player look as dominant on the field as Ablett senior and I'm a tiger supporter 🎉🎉
Not going to argue that Ben Cousins was one of West Coasts greatest players along with Chris Judd. But being apart of a few West Coast groups and having these debates and discussions. Peter Matera rates right up there. Infact as far as gutsy freakishly good things on a football field, take into consideration the VFL became the AFL and no Victorian wanted an Interstate side winning their Cup. Roo helped win 2 of them and a Norm Smith medal in the early days of AFL were Geelong in particular found out, trying continually to take his head off and team mates, was a mistake that had a reverse effect. Lol if the rules back then were like today there'd of been 12 players out for 6 weeks from 1 GF.
Talk about kicking a team when their down, honorable mentions for North should of gone to Keith Grieg, dual Brownlow medalist, Boomer Harvey, all time games record holder, Glenn Archer, Shinboner of the Century or Todd Goldstein, all time hit outs redord holder.
Darren Jarman is the best player the crow's ever had. Who else in the history of the AFL VFL ever kicked 5 goals in the final quarter of a grand final. He's the only one I know of. Jr Ablett doesn't come near his father as a player. You mustn't know about Petter Hudson from Hawthorn. Kicked 150 goals in 1971. Was a superstar. You need to google him. Kevin Bartlett is still Richmond's best player. Cousin's also played for Richmond. Just giving you my opinion. These are good video's. I subscribed . Why don't you do best kicks for goal. Peter McKenna has to be number one and I'm a Richmond supporter.🎉🎉🎉
....from 50 years as a fan. Carlton - Impossible to choose between Jezza and Hunter so a Tie. Collingwood- Daicos was an absolute Freak. Essendon - Wanganeen or Hird....another difficult choice. Fitzroy- Garry Wilson Footscray- Doug Hawkins Geelong- Gazza Hawthorn - Mattwews Melbourne- Flower was incredible. North - Blight. South- Goodes Richmond- KB St Kilda - Winmar, but only just from Barker Eagles - Lewis or Mainwearing. Crows - Jarman and McLeod are both in the Top 10 best players I've seen.
*THE FINALISTS* Andrew mcleod Michael voss John nicholls Nathan buckley John coleman Nathan fyfe (current) Gary ablett sr Gary ablett jr Toby greene(current) Leigh matthews Ron barassi Wayne carey Warren tredrea Dustin martin (current) Tony lockett Bob skilton Ben cousins Ted whitten
And I would also put Selwood now above Abblett Snr. Also imo if Jr had stayed a Cat he'd shaded the ol' man also. Tough being ''God'', aint it? Farmer v Selwood, now that is a hard one for the diehard Cat fan to decide. Farmer greatest Ruckman to have played in Mexico. Stephen Michael greatest Ruckman to have played in W.A.
If you were to include Fitzroy, Hayden Bunton stats were simply incredible. He won 3 brownlows in just 119 games. And the only player in history to achieve at least 1 Brownlow vote per game. He also won 3 Sandover medals when he played in the WA comp. The only player to win 3 Sandovers and 3 Brownlows. He also a highly regarded cricketer that had the potential to play test cricket. Your list is pretty much perfect in my view although I would definitely swap cousins for Judd. Judd was significantly the best in the comp for some time while wearing the blue and yellow.
Yeah i forgot to include Fitzroy, but if i did Bunton would've been a lock for that spot. Yeah it was difficult for me to decide between Judd and Cousins, but chose Cousins because he's a good bloke lol.
As a Collingwood supporter I'd have to put Syd Coventry, Gordon Coventry, Harry Collier, Albert Collier, Bob Rose and possibly Lou Richards ahead of the great Nathan Buckley. I also think Haydn Bunton should be considered the best player for the Brisbane Lions. It is a merged club after all. Coleman is a good choice for Essendon but I favour Dick Reynolds over Coleman. Similarly, I feel that Jack Dyer or Royce Hart should be considered Richmond's best. Other than those alterations it was a great list that I largely agree with. Good job.
Pavlich over Fyfe, a absolute champion & like Rooey from my team the Saints. Pav did everything he could to win a flag 4 his club, then again many champions have walked away with out a flag. I'd check on Lethal Leigh as well because lm sure you said 1 all Australian on his resume. The best player lve seen has more than one or they weren't handing them out through his career. There are to many greats to rank especially since we will never see them play ever. I love Lou Richards, but Buckley & the rest someone named like Bobby Rose leave Lou behind. Buckley's kicking puts him in the pies top 5 with Pendles, Scott it's a absolute pleasure to watch you play champion 👍
A great effort. As an older footy fan I only ever witnessed two players that had opponents on them at times that were shaking their heads and at a loss on how to stop them. They were Garry Ablett snr & Royce Hart. Thanks for the post.
@@crutches111 That’s clearly not the case, commonly rated as the best player of all time. Him and Gary Ablett Senior both are clearly more remembered for on field
@Lats Niebling From 1984 to 1992, Ablett Sr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games as a half forward flanker and wingman. From 1993 to 1996, he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game.
@Lats Niebling Thank you kindly. Here’s a kicker, no pun intended, I’m from America and I’ve been watching Australian rules football for nearly 30 years when they would show it on ESPN at 4.00 AM Saturday morning. It’s one of the best sports in the world.
I've seen them both play and I think that Jr is a more complete player than his father but Sr was a much better forward/half-forward. If I had 1st pick in the playground I take prime Jr over prime Sr and especially if we're playing more modern era rules and style. Sr was great tho don't get me wrong.
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Polly was unique, wonderful and electrifying with his handball skills and he had a raking left foot which made his stab passes more accurate.
Buddy Franklin will go down as the best modern day forward that I had ever seen and I’m a fan of Tony Lockett, Gary Ablett Snr, Jason Dunstall, Wayne Carey, Matthew Lloyd and Matthew Richardson.
@Lats Niebling In my humble opinion, Buddy will be the final player to kick 800, 900 or 1000 goals, the last to kick 100 goals in a home and away season and the last player to average 3 goals per game.
Lockett is the greatest player in vfl/afl history.. I mean it not just about kicking straight, reading the play brute strength, intimidation, he also laid off so many balls to his team mates to kick truly.. he won brownlow, all Australian jumpers, The best defenders in history just couldn't stop him.., just an awesome power forward to watch..!!
@@elmerfudd6305 He was a powerhouse and very strong to boot no pun intended. Had he not missed parts of four years, he would've had 1500 goals for sure.
What do Gary Ablett snr Nathan Buckley Tony Lockett Nat Fyfe Matthew Richardson have in common They never won a Grand Final but all are considered greats
Adelaide: Mark Ricciuto Brisbane: Michael Voss Carlton: Chris Judd Collingwood: Nathan Buckley Essendon: James Hird Fremantle: Nat Fyfe Geelong: Gary Ablett Sr Gold Coast: Gary Ablett Jr GWS: Callan Ward Hawthorn: Leigh Matthews Melbourne: Ron Barrassi North Melbourne: Wayne Carey Port Adelaide: Warren Tredrea Richmond: Dustin Martin St Kilda: Robert Harvey Sydney: Tony Lockett West Coast: Ben Cousins Western Bulldogs: Ted Whitten
Wayne Carey was the ultimate centre half forward. He could notch 20 to 25 disposals per game and in the same contest, kick five or six goals. Best contested mark for a man of his size that I had seen.
Hird is in the top 5 at Essendon but I don't think he's their greatest. Dick Reynolds has 2 more Brownlows and Coleman changed the game. Don't forget you have to fit Simon Maddan in there too as he was a fantastic player. Edit: I almost forgot Bill Hutchison. He has to be top 5 too.
@@dansharp2860 yeah Essendon are a tough one to pick Reynolds, Coleman, Hird and even Matty Lloyd were who I mulled over I guess I just have recency bias. Dick Reynolds and John Coleman are hall of fame legends after all .
Agreed. Jackovich and Peter Matera were better than Cousins. Both 2 x premiership players. Jackovich was a mountain down back, and Matera was class throughout his whole career.
Pavlich is better than Fyfe (Aside from brownlow arguement which is a mids award anyway) Pavlich is an elite position player forward or back, an elite kick of ball (unlike Fyfe) Better leader than Fyfe. More impact. Sorry but at this time Pavlich
@@redtiger4352 Pavlich has never had enough recognition in the East as he should have been given. He was a great player who did much of his best work away from Melbourne so we missed it or ignored it because we know we're too old VFL club focused. It's a pity and he's definitely their best ever player.
@@joememphis1571 Probaby even way more than that. In 1993, he kicked 124 goals in 17 games.. at the ripe old age of 32, imagine what he would have been doing in his mid 20s
@@taxads7791 What is even more unique is that Gary Ablett holds the record of goals per game for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he alternated between the half forward flank and wing in the early years of his career.
@@joememphis1571 Freak, best player I ever saw by a long way. Could do anything, dominated games in the middle and up forward. Sad that he didn't get to celebrate a premiership unfortunately.
Judd > Cousins. Judd is regarded one of the greatest ever midfielders to ever play the game, meanwhile Cousins was hooked on drugs, no idea if he was on enhancing ones as well. Who bloody knows.
@@rahulbhatia7798 Coleman's impact on the game is more and I considered Dick Reynolds for this spot as well as James Hird. In my opinion either can be interchanged here
Comparing Coleman to Hudson is like splitting hairs. Generally players are rated on how dominant they are in their eras compared their contemporaries. Coleman played in a much lower scoring era, the game was played differently in his era compared to Hudson. Both outstanding and legendary players of course but the differences being in Hudson's era, many players were kicking tonnes, hence he won the league goalkeeping award 4 times in 7 years, compared to Coleman 5 times in 5 full seasons. The other difference is that Coleman had not hit his peak at the time of his injury, it was only his 6th season in senior football, compared to Huddo retiring in about his 10th senior season (having played several seasons in Tasmania's highest league). Many of those who saw Coleman play rate him the best they ever saw & by a fair margin, but again. As I said, like splitting hairs, you would probably rate them equal, easily both legends.
John Nicholls was a highly influential player at Carlton but he’s simply not the best player the club has produced and indeed wasn’t the best player in his team when he was playing. Alex Jesaulenko was clearly the premier player of his era and the best player the club has has produced.
Even Leigh Matthews had said that “Alex Jesaulenko was the Buddy Franklin of his era. He had sensational overhead and wondrous balance on the ground and in the air.”
Really good effort. For Essendon though I'd say Dick Reynolds. For Richmond maybe Royce Hart, but Martins GF records do put him in the picture. The rest are pretty good,and obviously on a topic like this people are always going to have differing opininions. Good job.
If you’re going to include Coleman as the Essendon greatest then you have completely misunderstood that Russell Ebert is far and away the greatest Port player ever.
Essendon themselves don't rate Coleman as their greatest. Dick Reynolds was named the clubs greatest player in 2002. He does have 3 Brownlows, 4 premierships and 7 club B&Fs and he wasn't even an honourable mention. Dick himself saw Coleman play and said he wasn't the best player, Bill Hutchison (2x Brownlow winner with the club)was better than both them.
@@-hobbit-9481 you are so misinformed, or just yet another intentionally wrong idiot. The PAFC was established in 1870. They played in the SANFL from 1877 until 1996. They then switched their first team to the AFL and have played there since. Russell Ebert played for this club. A new club was invented on 1997, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club. They played in the SANFL from 1997 to 2010.
So many wrong picks.. Dick Reynolds is easily the greatest ever bomber and arguably the best of any team. He not only won 3 brownlows but captain / coached the team too. John Coleman was sensational but his career was cut short. Dick Reynolds therefore had a better career.
Not really "so many wrong picks". Reynolds is the only real standout mistake. Coleman was a strange pick though considering he didn't even play 100 games, and Essendon has had so many great players.
When it comes to Brisbane's Michael Voss and his early career when Brisbane were known as the Bears, you might want to do a video that looks at Brisbane's run into the 1995 Finals and how they needed to win 6 of their final 7 games just to make their first Finals appearance. That could be worth looking into as I remember it as the stuff of Legends how it turned a team that was a Laughing Stock into a well developed team that went on to merge with the Fitzroy Lions the following year saving the Lion's legacy.
Certainly show your youthful bias, I am a carlton supporter but seen Gary Ablett snr play live dozens of times, he is the best player I have seen play over my 54 years!! Maybe you weren't lucky enough to see him play?
@@MakeItRainProd it was a great list. Only meant as a small critique and not a knock on the overall video. Not sure if you meantioned dunstall either. As you indicated there's definitely been a huge number of champions that have played for that club so you could definitely argue that neither would make the list. Cheers
Great video. Sure not all I agree with, but you did give sound reasoning. You did however miss out on how the Bears and Lions were a merger which overlooks the magnificent Paul Ross of Fitzroy and many more as at least an Honourable mention. Secondly, controversial but I'd put Doull or Silvani ahead of Sticks.
This is a very subjective list. Many players, not mentioned could quite easily be on it. It’s a bit like picking the best artist, singer, or actor. Statistics don’t always show who the “best” is!
That is not a list of the best players of all time. It is a list of the best players in your opinion since 1950 with most being since 1960. Picking a best player in the AFL means only players since 1990 as that is when the AFL started. It was the VFL before that.
What is not mentioned here is that Andrew McLeod was originally a Port Adelaide player in the local SANFL league. Should have been playing for Port Power when they entered the AFL in 1997.
Nope, he was pre selected for Freo in 1994 but Neesham didn't like something about Mcleod's physical appearance (earnings, tattoos) so he was traded to Adelaide for Chris Groom.
Williams was better than Silvangni... SOS was only fractionally better than Chris Langford (some say Chris was equal or better - he was more like Rance, SOS was more lockdown).
@@petriusmaximus8187 Silvagni was a good as you can get playing one-on-one. Better than Diesel? IDK Langford had that Rance quality.. had the rebounding run like David Dench
Greg Williams was magnificent and superlative despite being knock-kneed and having controversy with salary cap issues and pushing an umpire in front of 85,000 people in the final season of his career . He even got AFL Team of The Century inclusion on the interchange. 1986 and 1994 Brownlow Medallist and 1995 premiership player.
It's hard to make an argument against Dick Reynolds for the Bombers. He has 3 Brownlows which is the equal most of any player, 4 premierships all as captain and 7 club B&Fs. Also a team of the century nod. Coleman changed the game and Hird is easily the best Bomber of the modern era but it's still King Richard for me at #1 so it's baffling he wasn't an HM at least.
@@dansharp2860 King Richard was with Essendon for 772 games. 325 as a player and 447 as a coach of which 174 were as player-coach. 1933-1950 as a player and from 1939-1960 as player-coach and then senior coach.
Side Note: Yes I did pronounce Tredrea wrong. My bad kings
Surely your not suggesting Fyfe is a better player than Pavlich ? How did you even get to this conclusion?
You mean you pronounced Wanganeen, as Tredrea..
@@deakinpack9920 Pavlich is better than Fyfe. Most non vics dont know how big Pavlich name is in Freo
Pavlich is freos best ever player, so fyfe won two brownlows, so what !! He gets the ball and usually turns it over, lots of
Wasted possessions.. i noticed a long time ago that Freo usually win when he dosent play as he always seems to get injured, fyfe is completely overrated.
and Ben cousins dident win a premiership in 2005, it was 2006
research your facts better..!!
@@deakinpack9920 2 Brownlows I guess?
Ian Stewart is St Kildas number 1. The club have him ranked in front of Locket
Does Michael Tuck play tennis? Not even an honourable mention??
Pav for me over Fyfe
yep
Malcolm Blight, Royce Hart, Jason Dunstall, Nick Reiwoldt and Robbie Flower all deserve honourable mentions for their respective clubs.
Flower was 100x the player Barassi was.
What about Keith Greg and Malcolm Blight . Both better than the duck. Keith Greg was a smooth perfectly made machine.😅😅
8:16 I reakon Riewoldt should have got a mention here surely
Other than that brilliant video excited to see more from you
He couldn't kick
Surprised no Crawford or Franklin as hon mentions for the hawks. Great list though 👏
Just subscribed to your channel man. Really enjoying your stuff
It's always interesting when someone says they think Gary Ablett Junior was the better player. Often they're letting Ablett Snr personal life bias their view and also never actually saw him play live. As someone who been at the games watching both playing at their absolute peak, sorry there is just no debate. Ablett senior was simply more skillful, explosive, exhilarating and most of all unstoppable then his son. If you think stats and decorations are what decide the better player you don't really understand why people watch football. Junior was great, but we've had quite a few champions like him (superb midfielders) over the years. There has only ever been one Gary Ablett Snr.
agree, god was astounding; although to have his son in a serious conversation about this is remarkable. god's run off the flank and his fierceness at the ball allied to his freak marking and goal tally edge him over jesus. amazingly, i rekkun if nathan had either his dad's or brother's passion to play he might have eclipsed both!
that said, polly farmer was a step up again and perhaps one of the greatest players ever - how could he be overlooked???
Ablett Snr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games and he holds the record for the highest goals per game average for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he was a wingman-half forward flanker. The last 81 games of his career he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game at full forward and he is the only player to win the Coleman Medal and kick 100 goals three straight seasons.
Loved both as footballers. Both equally awesome in their own rights. Both totally different players. Senior was magical, junior was silkier.
He often looked like he was a man playing against boy's. I've never seen a player look as dominant on the field as Ablett senior and I'm a tiger supporter 🎉🎉
Well said. I don’t follow geelong but ablett sr is the best I’ve ever seen. He was otherworldly. Jr was awesome also but a level below sr 💯
Brad Johnson and Bob Murphy? 😆😆 Brah
Not going to argue that Ben Cousins was one of West Coasts greatest players along with Chris Judd.
But being apart of a few West Coast groups and having these debates and discussions.
Peter Matera rates right up there. Infact as far as gutsy freakishly good things on a football field, take into consideration the VFL became the AFL and no Victorian wanted an Interstate side winning their Cup. Roo helped win 2 of them and a Norm Smith medal in the early days of AFL were Geelong in particular found out, trying continually to take his head off and team mates, was a mistake that had a reverse effect. Lol if the rules back then were like today there'd of been 12 players out for 6 weeks from 1 GF.
Talk about kicking a team when their down, honorable mentions for North should of gone to Keith Grieg, dual Brownlow medalist, Boomer Harvey, all time games record holder, Glenn Archer, Shinboner of the Century or Todd Goldstein, all time hit outs redord holder.
Thanks for taking the time to show once again how meaningless stats are.
I would have put Alex Jesaulenko equal with John Nichols. 4x Premiership Player, kicked 100 goals in a Season and is a AFL Hall of Fame Legend.
Jezza was a Freak....Nick was just big.
Darren Jarman is the best player the crow's ever had. Who else in the history of the AFL VFL ever kicked 5 goals in the final quarter of a grand final. He's the only one I know of. Jr Ablett doesn't come near his father as a player. You mustn't know about Petter Hudson from Hawthorn. Kicked 150 goals in 1971. Was a superstar. You need to google him. Kevin Bartlett is still Richmond's best player. Cousin's also played for Richmond. Just giving you my opinion. These are good video's. I subscribed . Why don't you do best kicks for goal. Peter McKenna has to be number one and I'm a Richmond supporter.🎉🎉🎉
....from 50 years as a fan.
Carlton - Impossible to choose between Jezza and Hunter so a Tie.
Collingwood- Daicos was an absolute Freak.
Essendon - Wanganeen or Hird....another difficult choice.
Fitzroy- Garry Wilson
Footscray- Doug Hawkins
Geelong- Gazza
Hawthorn - Mattwews
Melbourne- Flower was incredible.
North - Blight.
South- Goodes
Richmond- KB
St Kilda - Winmar, but only just from Barker
Eagles - Lewis or Mainwearing.
Crows - Jarman and McLeod are both in the Top 10 best players I've seen.
Good job mate.
*THE FINALISTS*
Andrew mcleod
Michael voss
John nicholls
Nathan buckley
John coleman
Nathan fyfe (current)
Gary ablett sr
Gary ablett jr
Toby greene(current)
Leigh matthews
Ron barassi
Wayne carey
Warren tredrea
Dustin martin (current)
Tony lockett
Bob skilton
Ben cousins
Ted whitten
Mate do you even watch footy or
Yes I do In fact
Ohh... See my first one would have been
Mark Ricxiuto
WCE Judd is the games GOAT.
Surprise not to mention Graham Polly Farmer for the cats. The only man to really change the game
And I would also put Selwood now above Abblett Snr. Also imo if Jr had stayed a Cat he'd shaded the ol' man also.
Tough being ''God'', aint it?
Farmer v Selwood, now that is a hard one for the diehard Cat fan to decide.
Farmer greatest Ruckman to have played in Mexico.
Stephen Michael greatest Ruckman to have played in W.A.
Tbf Polly did change the game in 1 bad way
More handballs
Pav better then Fyfe
For Fremantle I'd put Peter Bell up there and for Hawthorn I'd put Micheal Tuck.
If you were to include Fitzroy, Hayden Bunton stats were simply incredible. He won 3 brownlows in just 119 games.
And the only player in history to achieve at least 1 Brownlow vote per game.
He also won 3 Sandover medals when he played in the WA comp.
The only player to win 3 Sandovers and 3 Brownlows.
He also a highly regarded cricketer that had the potential to play test cricket.
Your list is pretty much perfect in my view although I would definitely swap cousins for Judd. Judd was significantly the best in the comp for some time while wearing the blue and yellow.
Yeah i forgot to include Fitzroy, but if i did Bunton would've been a lock for that spot. Yeah it was difficult for me to decide between Judd and Cousins, but chose Cousins because he's a good bloke lol.
As a Collingwood supporter I'd have to put Syd Coventry, Gordon Coventry, Harry Collier, Albert Collier, Bob Rose and possibly Lou Richards ahead of the great Nathan Buckley.
I also think Haydn Bunton should be considered the best player for the Brisbane Lions. It is a merged club after all.
Coleman is a good choice for Essendon but I favour Dick Reynolds over Coleman. Similarly, I feel that Jack Dyer or Royce Hart should be considered Richmond's best.
Other than those alterations it was a great list that I largely agree with. Good job.
@@fishjj76 I would put Darren Milane above Bucks too but Coventry is my pick.
@@baird55aus Good point. R.I.P 42
Pavlich over Fyfe, a absolute champion & like Rooey from my team the Saints. Pav did everything he could to win a flag 4 his club, then again many champions have walked away with out a flag. I'd check on Lethal Leigh as well because lm sure you said 1 all Australian on his resume. The best player lve seen has more than one or they weren't handing them out through his career. There are to many greats to rank especially since we will never see them play ever. I love Lou Richards, but Buckley & the rest someone named like Bobby Rose leave Lou behind. Buckley's kicking puts him in the pies top 5 with Pendles, Scott it's a absolute pleasure to watch you play champion 👍
A great effort. As an older footy fan I only ever witnessed two players that had opponents on them at times that were shaking their heads and at a loss on how to stop them. They were Garry Ablett snr & Royce Hart. Thanks for the post.
Hart at Richmond and Jezza at Carlton won flags off their own boot. Daics at Collingwood for many years now surpassed by Pendles. Go pies!!
Will never be anyone like Wayne Carey, easily the best player I’ve ever seen
And an absolute disgrace off the field
@@crutches111 don’t think that was the question
@@ChuckGibbs39 will be remembered more for his off field antics than on
@@crutches111 That’s clearly not the case, commonly rated as the best player of all time. Him and Gary Ablett Senior both are clearly more remembered for on field
@@ChuckGibbs39 tell that to Alisha Horan’s parents
If you think that Ablett Jr was better than Ablet Snr, you never saw Ablet Snr play
Junior was one of the most wondrous and electrifying midfielders of his era and his dad averaged 4.2 goals per game in 13 seasons with Geelong.
@Lats Niebling From 1984 to 1992, Ablett Sr. kicked 586 goals in 161 games as a half forward flanker and wingman. From 1993 to 1996, he kicked 444 goals in 81 games averaging 5.5 goals per game.
@Lats Niebling Thank you kindly. Here’s a kicker, no pun intended, I’m from America and I’ve been watching Australian rules football for nearly 30 years when they would show it on ESPN at 4.00 AM Saturday morning. It’s one of the best sports in the world.
I've seen them both play and I think that Jr is a more complete player than his father but Sr was a much better forward/half-forward. If I had 1st pick in the playground I take prime Jr over prime Sr and especially if we're playing more modern era rules and style. Sr was great tho don't get me wrong.
@Lats Niebling i see your god and raise you a polly farmer...
Gary Ablett Sr. The GOAT hands down!
two words - polly farmer...
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Polly was unique, wonderful and electrifying with his handball skills and he had a raking left foot which made his stab passes more accurate.
Buddy Franklin will go down as the best modern day forward that I had ever seen and I’m a fan of Tony Lockett, Gary Ablett Snr, Jason Dunstall, Wayne Carey, Matthew Lloyd and Matthew Richardson.
@Lats Niebling In my humble opinion, Buddy will be the final player to kick 800, 900 or 1000 goals, the last to kick 100 goals in a home and away season and the last player to average 3 goals per game.
Could see that happening for sure!
Lockett is the greatest player in vfl/afl history.. I mean it not just about kicking straight, reading the play brute strength, intimidation, he also laid off so many balls to his team mates to kick truly.. he won brownlow, all Australian jumpers,
The best defenders in history just couldn't stop him.., just an awesome power forward to watch..!!
@@elmerfudd6305 He was a powerhouse and very strong to boot no pun intended. Had he not missed parts of four years, he would've had 1500 goals for sure.
Joe Memphis.. your right he would have
Kicked 1500 goals..
Fitzroy ?
Jezza is Carlton’s best all time player by a mile
I can't put Hunter below him....or above him.
No honourable mentions for North. You're clearly a little young so ill do it for you. Malcolm blight, Barry cable, Wayne schimmelbusch and Keith greig
As good as Carey was, Blight was better.
Geez hawthorn had Dunstall, Hudson, Knights and Crawford
and buddy...
Crawf shouldn't be spoken in the same sentence as those Champs.
What do Gary Ablett snr Nathan Buckley Tony Lockett Nat Fyfe Matthew Richardson have in common They never won a Grand Final but all are considered greats
Honestly think Gordon Coventry should be a HM at Collingwood. Only Plugger has more goals.
So agree with you
Kicked alot of goals at a time the game wasnt the same.
Do you think Neale overtakes Voss when he retires?
i don't think so but will be close
disagree with most of these but good video nonetheless
I agree with most of the nominees but I would only include players that actually played AFL not VFL. These two are not actually the same league
its a fine line i feel but fair if you feel like it should be separate
Dusty as the tigers best should not be a hot take but some old heads may think so
what thumbnail app do you use? it looks fire
Cheers man. I actually have a thumbnail maker @Max Stahl. He's in the comments section somewhere. He uses adobe photoshop I'm pretty sure.
Thanks mayne 💕
@@MakeItRainProd ahh thats probably why its soo good
OMG YOU HIT 200!
yes i did, cheers for the support!
Adelaide: Mark Ricciuto
Brisbane: Michael Voss
Carlton: Chris Judd
Collingwood: Nathan Buckley
Essendon: James Hird
Fremantle: Nat Fyfe
Geelong: Gary Ablett Sr
Gold Coast: Gary Ablett Jr
GWS: Callan Ward
Hawthorn: Leigh Matthews
Melbourne: Ron Barrassi
North Melbourne: Wayne Carey
Port Adelaide: Warren Tredrea
Richmond: Dustin Martin
St Kilda: Robert Harvey
Sydney: Tony Lockett
West Coast: Ben Cousins
Western Bulldogs: Ted Whitten
Wayne Carey was the ultimate centre half forward. He could notch 20 to 25 disposals per game and in the same contest, kick five or six goals. Best contested mark for a man of his size that I had seen.
Freo Pavlich more impact more leadership
Hird is in the top 5 at Essendon but I don't think he's their greatest. Dick Reynolds has 2 more Brownlows and Coleman changed the game. Don't forget you have to fit Simon Maddan in there too as he was a fantastic player.
Edit: I almost forgot Bill Hutchison. He has to be top 5 too.
@@redtiger4352 pav and fyfe are neck and neck in my opinion, the 2 brownlows are what just get fyfe over the line for me
@@dansharp2860 yeah Essendon are a tough one to pick Reynolds, Coleman, Hird and even Matty Lloyd were who I mulled over I guess I just have recency bias. Dick Reynolds and John Coleman are hall of fame legends after all .
The best player ever for WCE was Glen Jackovich. He was probably the best defender of the 1990s.
Cousins was their best
Agreed. Jackovich and Peter Matera were better than Cousins. Both 2 x premiership players. Jackovich was a mountain down back, and Matera was class throughout his whole career.
And they didn't take drugs. So they could not be accused of being drug cheats.
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Huh?
Ben Cousins was a druggie.
id put pav in front of fyfe imo
Jacko was definitely the best player of all time for each of the 12 teams he played for!!!!
Can't sub to a channel that puts nat fyfe in front of Mathew pavlich.
My friends would agree with you there
Pavlich is better than Fyfe (Aside from brownlow arguement which is a mids award anyway) Pavlich is an elite position player forward or back, an elite kick of ball (unlike Fyfe) Better leader than Fyfe. More impact. Sorry but at this time Pavlich
@@redtiger4352 Pavlich has never had enough recognition in the East as he should have been given. He was a great player who did much of his best work away from Melbourne so we missed it or ignored it because we know we're too old VFL club focused. It's a pity and he's definitely their best ever player.
Yeah unfortunately not many people outside WA appreciate just how good Pavlich was.
@@sammythebull4441 I'm from SA and I agree pav was better
Nathan Buckley. No, mate. Gordon Coventry kicked over 1200 goals for Collingwood, only second to Tony Locket. I know it's a long way back, but still.
Pendles is better anyway
Tred reea was great
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Ben cousins was a premiership player in 2006 not 2005
Gary Ablett senior averaged over 4 goals per game, in his time at Geelong, 1021 goals in 242 games.
Just envision if he had played full forward his entire career. He’d have had 1100 or 1200 goals.
@@joememphis1571 Probaby even way more than that. In 1993, he kicked 124 goals in 17 games.. at the ripe old age of 32, imagine what he would have been doing in his mid 20s
@@taxads7791 What is even more unique is that Gary Ablett holds the record of goals per game for a non-specialist forward with 3.6 goals per game as he alternated between the half forward flank and wing in the early years of his career.
@@joememphis1571 Freak, best player I ever saw by a long way. Could do anything, dominated games in the middle and up forward. Sad that he didn't get to celebrate a premiership unfortunately.
@@taxads7791 To kick nine goals on a losing GF side is a testament to the freakish nature of Gary Ablett’s playing style.
No mention of the centre half forward of 20th century ,Ian Stewart or Darrell Baldock
Judd > Cousins. Judd is regarded one of the greatest ever midfielders to ever play the game, meanwhile Cousins was hooked on drugs, no idea if he was on enhancing ones as well. Who bloody knows.
Buckley? On the top of my head, I would put Peter McKenna, Gordon Coventry and Peter Daicos ahead of him. Pendles too!
Great video mate I just subscribed and saw your video as well
Peter Hudson averaged 5.64 goals a game, more than Coleman's 5.48 and over more time (129 games v Coleman's 98 games).
oh yeah didn't realise that until now. both very dominant players!
Hawthorn' have had the best players of any club. How do Hudson and Dunstall not compare to Leigh Mathews?
Also Dick Reynolds was more highly regarded than Coleman at Essendon anyway so it's a big call to say that Coleman was the best!
@@rahulbhatia7798 Coleman's impact on the game is more and I considered Dick Reynolds for this spot as well as James Hird. In my opinion either can be interchanged here
Comparing Coleman to Hudson is like splitting hairs. Generally players are rated on how dominant they are in their eras compared their contemporaries. Coleman played in a much lower scoring era, the game was played differently in his era compared to Hudson. Both outstanding and legendary players of course but the differences being in Hudson's era, many players were kicking tonnes, hence he won the league goalkeeping award 4 times in 7 years, compared to Coleman 5 times in 5 full seasons. The other difference is that Coleman had not hit his peak at the time of his injury, it was only his 6th season in senior football, compared to Huddo retiring in about his 10th senior season (having played several seasons in Tasmania's highest league). Many of those who saw Coleman play rate him the best they ever saw & by a fair margin, but again. As I said, like splitting hairs, you would probably rate them equal, easily both legends.
John Nicholls was a highly influential player at Carlton but he’s simply not the best player the club has produced and indeed wasn’t the best player in his team when he was playing. Alex Jesaulenko was clearly the premier player of his era and the best player the club has has produced.
Even Leigh Matthews had said that “Alex Jesaulenko was the Buddy Franklin of his era. He had sensational overhead and wondrous balance on the ground and in the air.”
Fact Check: Hudson averaged 5.63 goals a game 129 Games and 727 goals so Coleman does not have the best goal average of all time.
Great video
Malcolm Blight not even mentioned here? The guy was a freak.
Probably should’ve mentioned him. My bad
@Lats Niebling Blight won a brownlow and a Coleman, only 2 players in the history of the game have done that.
Really good effort.
For Essendon though I'd say Dick Reynolds.
For Richmond maybe Royce Hart, but Martins GF records do put him in the picture.
The rest are pretty good,and obviously on a topic like this people are always going to have differing opininions.
Good job.
what about peter daicos
Obviously never saw this Freak...
If you’re going to include Coleman as the Essendon greatest then you have completely misunderstood that Russell Ebert is far and away the greatest Port player ever.
Essendon themselves don't rate Coleman as their greatest. Dick Reynolds was named the clubs greatest player in 2002. He does have 3 Brownlows, 4 premierships and 7 club B&Fs and he wasn't even an honourable mention. Dick himself saw Coleman play and said he wasn't the best player, Bill Hutchison (2x Brownlow winner with the club)was better than both them.
Port Magpies player though, so he doesn't count. Played before Power were a thing
@@-hobbit-9481 Its the Port Adelaide Football Club. Russell Ebert played for them.
@@tjabaker As of 2010, so Port Magpie history is null and void
@@-hobbit-9481 you are so misinformed, or just yet another intentionally wrong idiot. The PAFC was established in 1870. They played in the SANFL from 1877 until 1996. They then switched their first team to the AFL and have played there since. Russell Ebert played for this club. A new club was invented on 1997, the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club. They played in the SANFL from 1997 to 2010.
So many wrong picks.. Dick Reynolds is easily the greatest ever bomber and arguably the best of any team. He not only won 3 brownlows but captain / coached the team too. John Coleman was sensational but his career was cut short. Dick Reynolds therefore had a better career.
Not really "so many wrong picks".
Reynolds is the only real standout mistake. Coleman was a strange pick though considering he didn't even play 100 games, and Essendon has had so many great players.
Peter Matera for Eagles mate
When it comes to Brisbane's Michael Voss and his early career when Brisbane were known as the Bears, you might want to do a video that looks at Brisbane's run into the 1995 Finals and how they needed to win 6 of their final 7 games just to make their first Finals appearance.
That could be worth looking into as I remember it as the stuff of Legends how it turned a team that was a Laughing Stock into a well developed team that went on to merge with the Fitzroy Lions the following year saving the Lion's legacy.
Polly Farmer was pretty good for the Cats.
Adam Goodes isn’t an honorable mention?
Should be. My mistake
Ah bob Murphy is not up there at the dogs, whitten, Grant, Johnson and Bont all well ahead.
Schultz, Templeton and hawkins also well ahead.
id put judd & JK over cousins
Thank you for the Vid, perhaps the honorable mention for the D's should have gone to Robbie Flower.
Certainly show your youthful bias, I am a carlton supporter but seen Gary Ablett snr play live dozens of times, he is the best player I have seen play over my 54 years!!
Maybe you weren't lucky enough to see him play?
I thought lance Franklin should have made the honourable mentions for the hawks.
Probably. Hawthorn has been around for a while and has had quite a few noteworthy players in their history
@@MakeItRainProd it was a great list. Only meant as a small critique and not a knock on the overall video. Not sure if you meantioned dunstall either. As you indicated there's definitely been a huge number of champions that have played for that club so you could definitely argue that neither would make the list. Cheers
Great video mate! Sorry I’m really late 😣
I reckon you could throw tony libretore and bont in there as well for the doggies
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Great video. Sure not all I agree with, but you did give sound reasoning. You did however miss out on how the Bears and Lions were a merger which overlooks the magnificent Paul Ross of Fitzroy and many more as at least an Honourable mention. Secondly, controversial but I'd put Doull or Silvani ahead of Sticks.
This is a very subjective list. Many players, not mentioned could quite easily be on it. It’s a bit like picking the best artist, singer, or actor. Statistics don’t always show who the “best” is!
That is not a list of the best players of all time. It is a list of the best players in your opinion since 1950 with most being since 1960. Picking a best player in the AFL means only players since 1990 as that is when the AFL started. It was the VFL before that.
What about Polly farmer Geelong, Glenn Archer and Keith Greig North, Kevin Murray Fitzroy, Simon black and Nigel lapping Brisbane.
Could only mention so few
Can't agree with Geelong - Graeme farmer and Bill Googin were better than either Ablett and Doug Wade is probably on a par with them.
Robert Harvey coulda been in contention for the saints
100% what i was thinking
@@glitch2250 same
Also the g train
Absolutely Robert Harvey, he didn't even do stat's Harvey would of killed it. St Kilda became a better team after Lockett left.
Yep and Darrell Baldock and Ian Stewart are contenders as well.
Peter Matera is the Eagles best ever player.
hawthorne should of been cyril
Good effort but I think that you need to do more research.
Sorry but.. you have senior as the best to ever play for Geelong and then right after say jr is better?
Jr also won a Brownlow in Gold Coast
@@MakeItRainProd I agree he shojld be gold coast's but based on what you said, why wouldnt he also be the best player to ever play for geelong? 😂
What is not mentioned here is that Andrew McLeod was originally a Port Adelaide player in the local SANFL league. Should have been playing for Port Power when they entered the AFL in 1997.
Nope, he was pre selected for Freo in 1994 but Neesham didn't like something about Mcleod's physical appearance (earnings, tattoos) so he was traded to Adelaide for Chris Groom.
@@chasindigo Thanks for that Chas. I didn’t know that.
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I'm jumping in and calling Ablett snr the all time great...!!
Wow
Tread-ray not tread-rea
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Williams was better than Silvangni... SOS was only fractionally better than Chris Langford (some say Chris was equal or better - he was more like Rance, SOS was more lockdown).
Man Hawthorn had so many all time greats that a lot of their "B-grade" stars were better than a lot of clubs best.
Silvagni kept Carey, Lockett and Ablett Sr to a combined total of 2 goals all in the finals he is the all time GOAT defender for that feat alone.
@@petriusmaximus8187 Silvagni was a good as you can get playing one-on-one. Better than Diesel? IDK
Langford had that Rance quality.. had the rebounding run like David Dench
Nice batch of great defenders you mentioned there.
Pity you left out the best one of the lot, bloke with a headband who wore number 11 for cfc.
@@petriusmaximus8187no he didn’t sos was just a jumper pulling spaz saw plugger kick 10 on him and 13 on him
Are you sure Gary Ablett Snr averaged 3 goals a game?
whoops, made a mistake, AFL Tables says 4.16 per game over his career
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Dick Reynolds is definitely the bombers best player 3 brownlows, a couple flags coleman is a close second
Dick Reynolds, Kevin Bartlett, Malcolm blight and Greg Williams most likely should have been included
Greg Williams was magnificent and superlative despite being knock-kneed and having controversy with salary cap issues and pushing an umpire in front of 85,000 people in the final season of his career . He even got AFL Team of The Century inclusion on the interchange. 1986 and 1994 Brownlow Medallist and 1995 premiership player.
It's hard to make an argument against Dick Reynolds for the Bombers. He has 3 Brownlows which is the equal most of any player, 4 premierships all as captain and 7 club B&Fs. Also a team of the century nod. Coleman changed the game and Hird is easily the best Bomber of the modern era but it's still King Richard for me at #1 so it's baffling he wasn't an HM at least.
@@dansharp2860 King Richard was with Essendon for 772 games. 325 as a player and 447 as a coach of which 174 were as player-coach. 1933-1950 as a player and from 1939-1960 as player-coach and then senior coach.
@@joememphis1571 The man could do it all
Peter Hudson had a higher goal average than Coleman FYI nearly averaging 6 goals per game played
Peter daicos or Gordon Coventry were significantly better players than bucks
Nathan Eagleton robbed of bulldogs spot imo
thats a shout, bald eagle is legendary
Jordan De Goey robbed for pies imo
@@prodbyreed jordan degoing and jordan degone