Great vid, mate, well done! The beauty of these things is, obviously, people will differ. Coleman was the best, Ask any of the old timers who saw players through the generations. To say "The footy wasn't as good back then" is a total discredit to the game a a whole, though. The game will always evolve. You can only go by how much better were they than their peers. Coleman played in the days of ankle deep mud, slippery, waterlogged bricks for footies, thugs who bashed him, and ball movement that was so slow he often had three or four on him by the time it got there, and horrible, wobbly bombs to him rather than clean drop punts. For him to average 5+ in those conditions? Sensational!! If you're going for longevity, Plugger, I agree. Dunstall would only be my 5th or so pick, though. Jason had one trick, he could lead well... and was in the most skilled. most dominant team of its age, by a mile. As such, he was rarely double teamed, and the ball was always put on his chest. Always. Also, being in a dominant team, every forward was a champ. Hall, Dermi, Bucky, the other mob couldn't afford to double team him. Plugger kicked them when his team was losing, every week, with only Loewe as another good forward. He was triple teamed all the time. He could take pack marks (Dunstall couldn't) as well as leads. Royce Hart was better than Carey. Carey was a great, but at that level it was about finals. Richmond built 4 premierships around Royce. He was in the best players in all of them. Carey did not have one good GF. Where are Richmond's game plan was "Bomb it long to Royce" it meant he often had several players to outmark, and break away from. Pagan's Paddock was brilliant, but it involved the whole team leaving Carey one-on-one. He got a lot of his goals running back towards goal, in he open, rather than at the ball. An all time champ, but Royce was better when it mattered most. Because Grand Finals are much tighter affairs. Royce was used to taking on packs for marks, where as Carey was not used to his paddock being full. I'd put Lloyd in the Dunstall bracket. A great lead and superbly straight kick, but, a few hangers aside, was not great at pack marks, or that good when it hit the ground. His style was helped greatly by being in such a dominant team. A champ of his generation, but not in my top ten. Thanks heaps for the vid, and food for thought!
1950s John Coleman 1960s and 1970s Alex Jesaulenko, Doug Wade, Peter Hudson, Peter McKenna, Kelvin Templeton 1978-1986 Malcolm Blight, Bernie Quinlan, and Simon Beasley 1987-1999 Tony Lockett, Jason Dunstall, Gary Ablett Sr., Sav Rocca, Wayne Carey, Stephen Kernahan, Tony Modra, Peter Sumich and John Longmire 2000s Matthew Lloyd, Matthew Richardson, Brendan Fevola, Barry Hall 2010s Lance Franklin
As a Saints fan, I would agree that Plugger was unbelievably good particularly because he played in a team that was not strong at the time. The only other person I thought might get on the list is lethal Lee Matthews. After all, he was a forward and some pundits rate him as the best player of all time. Thanks for your videos.
Bit late, but I think it's criminal that Richo doesn't make the 10. You have to remember that as impressive as Richo was, he did that playing for a frankly terrible Richmond team for the majority of his career, and kicked the majority of his goals after suffering a very severe knee injury during, I believe, his 3rd season. Despite all this he went on to kick 800 goals, take the most marks on the mcg, and come agonisingly close to a brownlow medal in, again, a young and just not very good Richmond side. My biased opinion sees him ranked at 6th, just behind Lloyd (5th), Gazza Senior (4th), Buddy (3rd), Dunstall (2nd), Lockett (1st). I would move Duck down the list, as even though he is one of the goats, I don't believe as a pure forward he ranks as high as you have him. Pretty good video otherwise
@@MakeItRainProd Peter Hudson is statistically the number one full forward the game has ever seen. He AVERAGED 5.5 goals per game with John Coleman any no.2 he kicked over one hundred goals per reason on a few occasions. His record puts him clearly number one!
@@MakeItRainProd I took the Time to look at his statistics . In 107 games he kicked 769 goals at 5.64 per match he kicked over 100 goals in five different seasons including equaling Bob Pratt record of 150. Knee injuries curtailed his career.
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Great vid, mate, well done!
The beauty of these things is, obviously, people will differ.
Coleman was the best, Ask any of the old timers who saw players through the generations. To say "The footy wasn't as good back then" is a total discredit to the game a a whole, though. The game will always evolve. You can only go by how much better were they than their peers. Coleman played in the days of ankle deep mud, slippery, waterlogged bricks for footies, thugs who bashed him, and ball movement that was so slow he often had three or four on him by the time it got there, and horrible, wobbly bombs to him rather than clean drop punts. For him to average 5+ in those conditions? Sensational!! If you're going for longevity, Plugger, I agree. Dunstall would only be my 5th or so pick, though. Jason had one trick, he could lead well... and was in the most skilled. most dominant team of its age, by a mile. As such, he was rarely double teamed, and the ball was always put on his chest. Always. Also, being in a dominant team, every forward was a champ. Hall, Dermi, Bucky, the other mob couldn't afford to double team him. Plugger kicked them when his team was losing, every week, with only Loewe as another good forward. He was triple teamed all the time. He could take pack marks (Dunstall couldn't) as well as leads. Royce Hart was better than Carey. Carey was a great, but at that level it was about finals. Richmond built 4 premierships around Royce. He was in the best players in all of them. Carey did not have one good GF. Where are Richmond's game plan was "Bomb it long to Royce" it meant he often had several players to outmark, and break away from. Pagan's Paddock was brilliant, but it involved the whole team leaving Carey one-on-one. He got a lot of his goals running back towards goal, in he open, rather than at the ball. An all time champ, but Royce was better when it mattered most. Because Grand Finals are much tighter affairs. Royce was used to taking on packs for marks, where as Carey was not used to his paddock being full. I'd put Lloyd in the Dunstall bracket. A great lead and superbly straight kick, but, a few hangers aside, was not great at pack marks, or that good when it hit the ground. His style was helped greatly by being in such a dominant team. A champ of his generation, but not in my top ten.
Thanks heaps for the vid, and food for thought!
thanks for the feedback, glad you enjoyed!
1950s John Coleman
1960s and 1970s Alex Jesaulenko, Doug Wade, Peter Hudson, Peter McKenna, Kelvin Templeton
1978-1986 Malcolm Blight, Bernie Quinlan, and Simon Beasley
1987-1999 Tony Lockett, Jason Dunstall, Gary Ablett Sr., Sav Rocca, Wayne Carey, Stephen Kernahan, Tony Modra, Peter Sumich and John Longmire
2000s Matthew Lloyd, Matthew Richardson, Brendan Fevola, Barry Hall
2010s Lance Franklin
Hudson and coleman easily
The best of all time
Averaged over 5 a game
Thats insulting having these 2 so far down the list
Underrated Josh Kennedy from eagles
Maybe huddo (peter hudson) atleast im part of the 2.9% 😅
you're right on the money
As a Saints fan, I would agree that Plugger was unbelievably good particularly because he played in a team that was not strong at the time. The only other person I thought might get on the list is lethal Lee Matthews. After all, he was a forward and some pundits rate him as the best player of all time.
Thanks for your videos.
Brendan Fevola not being in this video is a disgrace (lol just kidding)
haha yeah obviously a good player, just didn't crack the ten.
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Bit late, but I think it's criminal that Richo doesn't make the 10.
You have to remember that as impressive as Richo was, he did that playing for a frankly terrible Richmond team for the majority of his career, and kicked the majority of his goals after suffering a very severe knee injury during, I believe, his 3rd season.
Despite all this he went on to kick 800 goals, take the most marks on the mcg, and come agonisingly close to a brownlow medal in, again, a young and just not very good Richmond side.
My biased opinion sees him ranked at 6th, just behind Lloyd (5th), Gazza Senior (4th), Buddy (3rd), Dunstall (2nd), Lockett (1st).
I would move Duck down the list, as even though he is one of the goats, I don't believe as a pure forward he ranks as high as you have him.
Pretty good video otherwise
John Coleman won himself
Hudson at no. 8 joke!!
where would you place him?
@@MakeItRainProd Peter Hudson is statistically the number one full forward the game has ever seen. He AVERAGED 5.5 goals per game with John Coleman any no.2 he kicked over one hundred goals per reason on a few occasions. His record puts him clearly number one!
@@nevilleoliver1883 yeah ofc
@@MakeItRainProd I took the Time to look at his statistics . In 107 games he kicked 769 goals at 5.64 per match he kicked over 100 goals in five different seasons including equaling Bob Pratt record of 150. Knee injuries curtailed his career.
@@nevilleoliver1883 injuries are a factor, and he only played 129 games, just doesn't match the longevity of others on the list imo. But i respect it.
Lol