Yerevan in single player: game breaking S+ tier Yerevan in multiplayer: potentially useful as a city you conquer and assimilate into your empire, otherwise F/D minus tier
There are a few I would move up a tier. I'd actually put Yeravan in D tier because I actually value the medic promotion although I know a lot of people don't. Especially since it's stacks with the healing scientist, medics, and healing waters. It's actually pretty insane on Arabia with mamelukes. The ability to have a unit heal up in 1-2 turns without having a pillage is extremely good; allowing you to push much faster with less units. It also makes it so you're pretty much impossible to push in defensible terrain that you can make a line of units. Although it's kind of a 1 and done like Nalanda. You buy your 1-3 apostles and then not care anymore. It also has the same use case as fez. Cardiff, unless I'm not understanding this properly you also get +4 power with shipyards. This is really nice if you're low on coal and either have a ton of coal power plants like Japan or are doing a naval push with ironclads/battleships as you'll have to use less coal to power your buildings. It's also pretty nice for going to space for the projects once you run out of aluminum. Auckland actually makes fisheries a decent tile improvement. With 2 fish it becomes a 5/2 at Industrialization with a full point of housing. It's also worth while to spam them in your maus city to make use of the extra yields since they actually have production. The full point of housing and extra food means you can work more specialists and build more districts in that city. I don't think I've ever built a fishery without Auckland. I still think fisheries are generally underwhelming and I think the BBG team should either give them a base yield of +1 prod much like fishing boats and maybe an additional +1 prod at colonialism like the fishing boat. Everything seems about right though. Everything has a bit of wiggle room.
It's funny, but I saw someone else do an evaluation of city states, and he straight up called Valetta a CS to acquire if someone has played the game poorly. Something along the lines of, "If you're a good player, Valetta is completely redundant and entices you to use faith that could be used better elsewhere." Interesting to see such a difference in perspective. His CS evaluations were based on base Gathering Storm, not BBG, so the differences in how the two of you ranked these is largely because of how BBG modifies the CS - but the Valetta bonus is the same in both. I appreciate the perspective from both angles; people play the game differently, so they're going to view aspects of the game differently. Thank you for taking the time to make this
I agree with Herson here (although I mostly play single player)... the ability with a good faith CIV to completely expand and get new cities up and running with Valetta is extremely powerful. In a monumentality golden age it can lead to absolutely rapid expansion
This is a really good video! I'm agreeing on almost every city-state. For me, you are the UA-camr with the most knowledge and skill of the game, which makes at very nice to watch and I'm still learning things. Don't get me wrong: I appreciate everyone who makes the time to make videos about Civ 6, but I think I found my favourite one :)
Yerevan is indeed pretty bad, but you can use it to get medic apossols and they do stack with normal medics, meaning you basicly never have to stop healing for more than 1 turn. And it's good for arab mamluk push. Other than that yes it's useles.
Yerevan is nice to have for getting a medic apostle for a mid game war for slightly better pace. Not saying that bumps it up a spot in the tier list, but it's something.
Hattusa literally should only ever have envoys in it for the following reasons: 1) You met it first. 2) You completed a quest for them because you would have done it anyway. (Build a campus or whatever) 3) You are pursing a science victory and there are no other blue city states to send envoys to for increased science yields.
Haven't done multiplayer, but I mostly play Canada - maybe Greece/Rome... I've always found the city-state spread of unique suzerainty bonuses to be quite low on some of them & I find that quite unfortunate given that some civs are unique in and of themselves, but never get a beautiful bonus with any city-state. What makes this all *THE WORST, is that you can't attack/conquer city-states as Canada at all so you're sort of left with either - 1) Meh nobody has taken you so I guess I will/I already have diplomatic favour, 2) You're in the way but I can't do anything about that, 3) You're situationally useful depending on how the game has gone (yet 90+% these are the ones most everyone wants already).
Hi, Herson, very enjoyable your videos and learn a lot of things. Could you make a video to talk about the policy cards, and when and why we will use them in our game? Thank you very much.
I also have a question about overflow. I saw your video talking about science overflow, which is very helpful. Does city have also production overflow, and how to manage the production overflow when building units with +% policy cards and chopping? for example, building a settler with +50% card with 79/80, and then I wanna chop, does overflow also count for +50%? (I dont think +50% for overflow, but civ without any mods seems count that). is that correct?
Is Hattusa really completely trash? I've found it quite useful when you have those bad games where you don't have Niter or Oil and Hattusa is the only thing keeping you afloat. I think you would prioritize Hattusa higher if BBG didn't allow Encampments to generate Oil at Military Academies (someone correct me if I'm misremembering),
what about vilnius and Australia ? getting +5 TS is easy as well . Would u say that each of S city state (except maybe antanarivo) is worth fast amani? (maybe not first but 3rd-4th governor title) I always knew that gold CS bonuses are not that good but still contended for it. I wont do that anymore :P Thanks for guide!
I wouldn't go fast Amani for Antananarivo (gives no value early), Cahokia (you won't have the spare build charges to use this effectively until you reach the feudalism civic and can spam 5-charge builders), or Mexico City (it scales well but does nothing for you early). Going Amani first is okay to take control of any of the other S-tier city states (excluding Nan Madol if you're not doing a harbor opener). Also, you can open Amani and send trade routes externally to Singapore right away to take advantage of Amani's extra trade route yields in BBG (which is a viable opener due to Singapore's specific bonuses). edit: also I'd consider going Amani early to take control of Kandy when playing Mvemba a Nzinga specifically. His synergy with Kandy is insanely good, especially since he starts with 5 great work slots in his palace.
It's fine to spend your first governor title on Amani to take control of Ayutthaya. You're effectively getting as much, if not more, culture out of that title spent on Amani than you would out of spending two titles on Moksha for his +1 culture per citizen promotion in the early game (for those unaware: yes, Moksha has this promotion in BBG, not Pingala). As the game goes along, Ayutthaya's suzerain bonus becomes better and better as your civ's production continues to increase. It's common to be earning like 70-80 culture per turn from Ayutthaya's suzerain bonus post-industrialization.
Isnt hattusa good for maori? Especially since Nobody rlly wants to Contest it. Maori Likes to have high Appeal and a Mine over a strategic would reduce the Appeal to adjacent tiles. You can Go preserves, Theater, harbor and religious districts. Get Feed the world. Basically your entire kit screams high Appeal, woods and unimproved tiles. Hattusa would give you all the strategics you need without improving them and reducing the Appeal which you wanna keep high. And thx to maoris Kit they can Scout over water rlly quickly and find that City state much more consistent If it spawns. On top you dont even need to own the Land, you Just need to reveal the Ressource. So even If someone else is working the ressource you still revealed it.
I believe you're confusing Singapore, which just gives +2 production on all international trade routes, with Venice. Venice provides +2 gold to all trade routes for each luxury resource tile, including duplicates of the same type of luxury resource, in the destination city. Georgia gains +50% production towards all walls in BBG, and you can stack this with the limes policy card for an additional +50% production towards walls. Because of this, it's usually more efficient to just build your walls instead of using Valetta's suzerain bonus to faith-buy them. Instead, you'd rather use your faith to buy civilian units utilizing the monumentality golden age dedication. La Venta's unique improvement is okay on Maori, but it's hard to spam them as your civ bonus prevents you from removing resource tiles that would get in the way like cattle, copper, wheat, etc.
BBG gives the Grand Bazaar an extra trade route??? That's like giving them the Guided Vault, only you don't even have to build a Harbor for the extra trade route. Some balance mod!
The BBG version of Ottomans would still be considered a relatively average civ if dropped into the unmodded version of the game, to be honest. Certain civs are insanely strong without BBG - the unmodded versions of Portugal, Khmer, and Gaul, for instance, would all be monstrously overpowered in the context of a BBG multiplayer game.
Yerevan should be S tier because it could resist the attack from a legendary player, JacktheripperGB
!yerevan
As a teamers player it is crazy to see Hattusa on F, but as Confucius once said: 'Who gives a fuck about teamers?' xD
Yerevan in single player: game breaking S+ tier
Yerevan in multiplayer: potentially useful as a city you conquer and assimilate into your empire, otherwise F/D minus tier
There are a few I would move up a tier. I'd actually put Yeravan in D tier because I actually value the medic promotion although I know a lot of people don't. Especially since it's stacks with the healing scientist, medics, and healing waters. It's actually pretty insane on Arabia with mamelukes. The ability to have a unit heal up in 1-2 turns without having a pillage is extremely good; allowing you to push much faster with less units. It also makes it so you're pretty much impossible to push in defensible terrain that you can make a line of units. Although it's kind of a 1 and done like Nalanda. You buy your 1-3 apostles and then not care anymore. It also has the same use case as fez.
Cardiff, unless I'm not understanding this properly you also get +4 power with shipyards. This is really nice if you're low on coal and either have a ton of coal power plants like Japan or are doing a naval push with ironclads/battleships as you'll have to use less coal to power your buildings. It's also pretty nice for going to space for the projects once you run out of aluminum.
Auckland actually makes fisheries a decent tile improvement. With 2 fish it becomes a 5/2 at Industrialization with a full point of housing. It's also worth while to spam them in your maus city to make use of the extra yields since they actually have production. The full point of housing and extra food means you can work more specialists and build more districts in that city. I don't think I've ever built a fishery without Auckland. I still think fisheries are generally underwhelming and I think the BBG team should either give them a base yield of +1 prod much like fishing boats and maybe an additional +1 prod at colonialism like the fishing boat.
Everything seems about right though. Everything has a bit of wiggle room.
It's funny, but I saw someone else do an evaluation of city states, and he straight up called Valetta a CS to acquire if someone has played the game poorly. Something along the lines of, "If you're a good player, Valetta is completely redundant and entices you to use faith that could be used better elsewhere." Interesting to see such a difference in perspective. His CS evaluations were based on base Gathering Storm, not BBG, so the differences in how the two of you ranked these is largely because of how BBG modifies the CS - but the Valetta bonus is the same in both.
I appreciate the perspective from both angles; people play the game differently, so they're going to view aspects of the game differently. Thank you for taking the time to make this
I agree with Herson here (although I mostly play single player)... the ability with a good faith CIV to completely expand and get new cities up and running with Valetta is extremely powerful. In a monumentality golden age it can lead to absolutely rapid expansion
This is a really good video! I'm agreeing on almost every city-state. For me, you are the UA-camr with the most knowledge and skill of the game, which makes at very nice to watch and I'm still learning things. Don't get me wrong: I appreciate everyone who makes the time to make videos about Civ 6, but I think I found my favourite one :)
This is definitely going to be interesting. Love your deep dives into BBG
Yerevan is indeed pretty bad, but you can use it to get medic apossols and they do stack with normal medics, meaning you basicly never have to stop healing for more than 1 turn. And it's good for arab mamluk push. Other than that yes it's useles.
The g is silent in Armagh. Pronounced ar-mar, ideally with a thick northern Irish accent.
Yerevan is nice to have for getting a medic apostle for a mid game war for slightly better pace. Not saying that bumps it up a spot in the tier list, but it's something.
Finally someone agrees with me on Cahokia
Bologna is also good on Babylon because you get your first building in new districts for free. (Unless BBM changes this.)
Hattusa literally should only ever have envoys in it for the following reasons:
1) You met it first.
2) You completed a quest for them because you would have done it anyway. (Build a campus or whatever)
3) You are pursing a science victory and there are no other blue city states to send envoys to for increased science yields.
Haven't done multiplayer, but I mostly play Canada - maybe Greece/Rome... I've always found the city-state spread of unique suzerainty bonuses to be quite low on some of them & I find that quite unfortunate given that some civs are unique in and of themselves, but never get a beautiful bonus with any city-state. What makes this all *THE WORST, is that you can't attack/conquer city-states as Canada at all so you're sort of left with either - 1) Meh nobody has taken you so I guess I will/I already have diplomatic favour, 2) You're in the way but I can't do anything about that, 3) You're situationally useful depending on how the game has gone (yet 90+% these are the ones most everyone wants already).
Hi, Herson, very enjoyable your videos and learn a lot of things. Could you make a video to talk about the policy cards, and when and why we will use them in our game? Thank you very much.
I also have a question about overflow. I saw your video talking about science overflow, which is very helpful. Does city have also production overflow, and how to manage the production overflow when building units with +% policy cards and chopping? for example, building a settler with +50% card with 79/80, and then I wanna chop, does overflow also count for +50%? (I dont think +50% for overflow, but civ without any mods seems count that). is that correct?
Ty for the informative content
Is Hattusa really completely trash? I've found it quite useful when you have those bad games where you don't have Niter or Oil and Hattusa is the only thing keeping you afloat. I think you would prioritize Hattusa higher if BBG didn't allow Encampments to generate Oil at Military Academies (someone correct me if I'm misremembering),
what about vilnius and Australia ? getting +5 TS is easy as well . Would u say that each of S city state (except maybe antanarivo) is worth fast amani? (maybe not first but 3rd-4th governor title) I always knew that gold CS bonuses are not that good but still contended for it. I wont do that anymore :P Thanks for guide!
I wouldn't go fast Amani for Antananarivo (gives no value early), Cahokia (you won't have the spare build charges to use this effectively until you reach the feudalism civic and can spam 5-charge builders), or Mexico City (it scales well but does nothing for you early).
Going Amani first is okay to take control of any of the other S-tier city states (excluding Nan Madol if you're not doing a harbor opener). Also, you can open Amani and send trade routes externally to Singapore right away to take advantage of Amani's extra trade route yields in BBG (which is a viable opener due to Singapore's specific bonuses).
edit: also I'd consider going Amani early to take control of Kandy when playing Mvemba a Nzinga specifically. His synergy with Kandy is insanely good, especially since he starts with 5 great work slots in his palace.
If you first meet ayutthaya is it worth it to grab Amani as your first gov? Or does that delay magnus too much for the bonus culture to be worth it?
It's fine to spend your first governor title on Amani to take control of Ayutthaya. You're effectively getting as much, if not more, culture out of that title spent on Amani than you would out of spending two titles on Moksha for his +1 culture per citizen promotion in the early game (for those unaware: yes, Moksha has this promotion in BBG, not Pingala). As the game goes along, Ayutthaya's suzerain bonus becomes better and better as your civ's production continues to increase. It's common to be earning like 70-80 culture per turn from Ayutthaya's suzerain bonus post-industrialization.
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Isnt hattusa good for maori? Especially since Nobody rlly wants to Contest it. Maori Likes to have high Appeal and a Mine over a strategic would reduce the Appeal to adjacent tiles. You can Go preserves, Theater, harbor and religious districts. Get Feed the world.
Basically your entire kit screams high Appeal, woods and unimproved tiles. Hattusa would give you all the strategics you need without improving them and reducing the Appeal which you wanna keep high.
And thx to maoris Kit they can Scout over water rlly quickly and find that City state much more consistent If it spawns. On top you dont even need to own the Land, you Just need to reveal the Ressource. So even If someone else is working the ressource you still revealed it.
Does Singapore give +2g to each luxury resourece tile at or each type of luxury resouce in the destination city?
Also, does Valetta deserve an early Amani as Georgia, and does La Venta spam work for Maori?
I believe you're confusing Singapore, which just gives +2 production on all international trade routes, with Venice.
Venice provides +2 gold to all trade routes for each luxury resource tile, including duplicates of the same type of luxury resource, in the destination city.
Georgia gains +50% production towards all walls in BBG, and you can stack this with the limes policy card for an additional +50% production towards walls. Because of this, it's usually more efficient to just build your walls instead of using Valetta's suzerain bonus to faith-buy them. Instead, you'd rather use your faith to buy civilian units utilizing the monumentality golden age dedication.
La Venta's unique improvement is okay on Maori, but it's hard to spam them as your civ bonus prevents you from removing resource tiles that would get in the way like cattle, copper, wheat, etc.
@@HersonCiv Thank you very much!
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Yeah, you either misread Hunza or used the wrong text, because it’s not solely for international trade routes in the image you provide
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But only 1 hour long?! :( Need more hours of your sexy voice
BBG gives the Grand Bazaar an extra trade route???
That's like giving them the Guided Vault, only you don't even have to build a Harbor for the extra trade route. Some balance mod!
The BBG version of Ottomans would still be considered a relatively average civ if dropped into the unmodded version of the game, to be honest. Certain civs are insanely strong without BBG - the unmodded versions of Portugal, Khmer, and Gaul, for instance, would all be monstrously overpowered in the context of a BBG multiplayer game.
Can you make a tier list for CS in duels?