How to Win Religious Victory in Multiplayer Civ 6

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  • @vkkv1401
    @vkkv1401 2 місяці тому +1186

    How to win religious in civ6:
    1) Be better at game than anyone in the lobby
    2) Decide to win religious

    • @TheSweetSpirit
      @TheSweetSpirit 2 місяці тому +19

      Though funny, it does seem like legitimately there are some upsides to religious victory path.

    • @ptsitius
      @ptsitius 2 місяці тому

      🤣

    • @Nysvarth
      @Nysvarth Місяць тому +4

      you forgot 3) Use a modded version of the game that makes religious victory easier

    • @benjaminwang4014
      @benjaminwang4014 Місяць тому +10

      @@Nysvarth yea, bbg nerfs the hell out of religion. I agree, the balance mods in multiplayer make religious victories much harder

  • @roowco1
    @roowco1 2 місяці тому +1011

    now do diplomatic

    • @jakob55047
      @jakob55047 2 місяці тому +50

      It happend in a very compeditive lobby as well. It was the final of an anonymos FFA tournament

    • @bran_ginger
      @bran_ginger 2 місяці тому +6

      Impossible

    • @xSixthiSx
      @xSixthiSx 2 місяці тому +20

      just ask nice duh

    • @vyax
      @vyax 2 місяці тому

      @@jakob55047 got a link?

    • @DarkVoid-gp6qq
      @DarkVoid-gp6qq 2 місяці тому +36

      Members of the world, all unanimously agree that you are indeed, the coolest dude, and here by grant you a Diplomatic Victory!

  • @ironman85000
    @ironman85000 2 місяці тому +196

    Making it in your opponents' best interest to not declare war on you by Suzing all the city states, so they would rather let you convert them than lose the extra district yields, is legitimately genius diplomacy and almost reminds me of how some real-world politics happens lol

  • @phrank794
    @phrank794 2 місяці тому +393

    how to win a religious victor in civ 6:
    1.- Domination

    • @ginkih8506
      @ginkih8506 2 місяці тому +45

      lore acurate religious victory

    • @512TheWolf512
      @512TheWolf512 2 місяці тому +4

      Iranian strategy

  • @ericwallace1484
    @ericwallace1484 2 місяці тому +361

    this is a fascinating strategy that I have 0 belief I could replicate, even on a god-spawn. Cool to finally see a religious victory though

  • @TheCasuality
    @TheCasuality 2 місяці тому +174

    here is a nice little trick: all of the apostel promotions are stored in a list. if you pick one out of the list via promotion - it wont come back until you picked every promotion out of this list (this is the reason why you never get the nice promotions ever again if you picked them early). So you can just take all the trash promotions first and literally every apostel after this will be created with only strong promotions (just dont pick them and buy more strong apostels)

    • @ptsitius
      @ptsitius 2 місяці тому +15

      aaaaah thanks! I always wondered why I get left whit bad promotions after a while

    • @ThatWeirdAtom
      @ThatWeirdAtom 2 місяці тому +5

      does this apply to rock band promos too?

    • @daboss4318
      @daboss4318 2 місяці тому +3

      So you have to prepare a big wave like always, but with best promotions?Pretty good

    • @Phlebas
      @Phlebas 2 місяці тому +12

      Yup. It's the reason I always take the extra turn to pick a trash promotion before using my apostle to launch an inquisition or upgrade my religion. Chaplain, Heathen Conversion, Indulgence Vendor, and Martyr all have their uses (in particular, chaplains are excellent when you're warmongering, and martyrs are good for people seeking culture victories) but in a religious game where every apostle counts, you want debaters, translators, and proselytizers as your main force with orators and pilgrims as solid backup.

    • @beraor4296
      @beraor4296 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Phlebas religious combat is not a thing in mp so martyr and debaters are next to useless.

  • @andrewnewell8217
    @andrewnewell8217 2 місяці тому +28

    What a fascinating strategy. Never has multiplayer looked less like single player!

  • @FlyingThunder
    @FlyingThunder 2 місяці тому +86

    just a day ago general chat was talking about religious gooning and now this

  • @EbayNomad
    @EbayNomad 2 місяці тому +91

    2:30am upload is wild

    • @TETSU2249
      @TETSU2249 2 місяці тому +9

      For me it's 10:30 lol

  • @markwarden7719
    @markwarden7719 2 місяці тому +11

    I always thought religious victory was logically infeasible, but you've shown it is instead niche and possible! That's pretty exciting! Thank you

  • @bye1551
    @bye1551 2 місяці тому +15

    I really think passive conversion needs a buff in BBG. It would be more fun, anyway, and make religious victory a more viable Strategy

  • @נירמנחמי
    @נירמנחמי 2 місяці тому +8

    12:45 just make sure you are about to win a scince victory so second place has to go to war

  • @chumimintv9052
    @chumimintv9052 2 місяці тому +33

    Thanks for regurgitating on me Herson

  • @pikazilla6405
    @pikazilla6405 2 місяці тому +11

    Wouldn't canada be a fairly decent civ for this strategy? Canada is immune to surprise wars, forcing civs to denounce you first and wait 5 turns which gives you time to overwhelm them before declaring war and condemning your units will have any impact. Canada has more bonuses for religion than that as well due to the fact that the tundra can give really strong holy sites thanks to the aurora pantheon, allowing you to afford a fairly large number of apostles and missionaries. If the other players fail to catch on quickly and denounce you well in advance you can kinda just roll over the other religious civs if you convert them before they're able to start an inquisition, the only other real way to stop you other than declaring war, and doing so will give you an easier time to convert the other civs later due to the lack of competition. And because Candada ON PAPER has no real bonuses for religious play it's a very sneaky pick because out of all the players in the server they suspect could send an army of missionaries and apostles their way canada is definitely near the bottom of that list.

  • @elgato71
    @elgato71 2 місяці тому +4

    I once won a religious victory by losing most of my cities in a small friends lobby, was pretty funny.

  • @chessguy99
    @chessguy99 2 місяці тому +4

    Most religious victories I've seen have been highly dependent on converting players through their military actions. Also helps that religious civ players tend to be militarily weaker and can be easily eliminated with tanks.

  • @g.r.4372
    @g.r.4372 2 місяці тому +17

    Buff religious victory. This seems like legit fun.

    • @MauiWowie51
      @MauiWowie51 2 місяці тому

      its my favorite way to play

  • @InclementGaming
    @InclementGaming 2 місяці тому +8

    -Join herson lobby
    -lose
    -make herson video

  • @namenotloading
    @namenotloading 2 місяці тому +81

    Religion? I call them Diseases and roleplay as Nurgle when going for a Religious victory.

    • @SimpleReally
      @SimpleReally 2 місяці тому +12

      14 year olds find this edgy

    • @SarujinieUras
      @SarujinieUras 2 місяці тому +16

      @@SimpleReally 14 year olds think they're being deep. Everyone else is just having fun

    • @Wormopera
      @Wormopera 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean it's true but it's just so edgy and "redditori" that it seems cringw

    • @EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
      @EKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK 2 місяці тому +2

      That’s antisemitic btw

    • @jangbae5094
      @jangbae5094 2 місяці тому +4

      Warhammer 40k being considered cringe and antisemitic 💀

  • @davidanderegg1232
    @davidanderegg1232 2 місяці тому +14

    They definitely need to buff religious victories. People complain it’s not fun but that’s only when people aren’t contesting it. When they do, it quickly turns into a domination-lite victory where instead of killing everyone (which is impossible in the short game time) you only kill a few. But you still have to interact with everyone, apply strategy for who and how to convert, and put a good bit of investment that allows others to counter play by investing more into military.
    One idea would be to remove the pressure loss from condemning heretics. Would make declaring war not an immediate no win situation.

    • @codetime01
      @codetime01 2 місяці тому +3

      Issue with religious victory is that it's an optional gamemode and also limited. Every civ in the game needs gold, science, prod, culture, and food, but not all civs use faith/religions (in fact most dont). Thus if you have to defend religious, you are automatically irrelling yourself. Furthermore, the number of religions that can be founded is limited, so you can't even defend yourself if you are late to found one.
      Side note: they already removed negative pressure from condemning

    • @davidanderegg1232
      @davidanderegg1232 2 місяці тому

      @@codetime01 oh interesting, I’m not familiar with the changes in bbq but it’s surprising they buffed a condition no one plays XD definitely explains how he got away with it here though.

  • @ChessFromBighttown
    @ChessFromBighttown 2 місяці тому +11

    Yo Hersonwould u ever think about doing a vid about gold ? I find myself either vastly wasting it after first trader buy or hording it

    • @vaskbarebuks9760
      @vaskbarebuks9760 2 місяці тому

      Just buy whatever you need, or hoard it while having owls of minerva

  • @SkyForceOne2
    @SkyForceOne2 2 місяці тому +5

    Here is me BEGGING Herson for ages to play Norway, like the desperate down-bad simp for him I am, just to miss it live Q.Q

  • @TuesdaysDusk1
    @TuesdaysDusk1 2 місяці тому +1

    Love you ❤, thanks for the feed!

  • @owendressel7052
    @owendressel7052 2 місяці тому +68

    Would religious victory have beaten TRYNDA‘a Macedonia?

  • @joshualee1595
    @joshualee1595 2 місяці тому

    in the coming days we will truly see if this a viable strat, as now that people know how it works, they'll 1. take it more seriously, and 2. know how to play against it better. And if it falls off it will always remains as a surprise factor strat.

  • @V4shStampede
    @V4shStampede 2 місяці тому +1

    This looks fun to do, but at the same time seems much harder and much more involved than simply outpacing the lobby to a win con and defending yourself from any detractors, what you usually do.
    I feel like religious victory is more viable now, simply because people don't expect it. If more people will start pursuing it, it's going to become impossible if multiple people in the lobby are going for it and contesting the wonders to boot.
    Ultimately, religious victory can become one of the win cons players choose to pursue if not faced with enough opposition for it.

  • @drstory__
    @drstory__ 2 місяці тому +2

    great video! i wonder why ffa in CPL is always 10-12 player games. Why not 6 or 8 players? wouldn't that make religious victory and dominantion victory or even diplo victory more viable?

  • @DaPouncingBadgr
    @DaPouncingBadgr 2 місяці тому +2

    Are their any recorded gamplays of Alsign's religious victories?

  • @marcosmorelli9015
    @marcosmorelli9015 2 місяці тому

    great video again! thanks for sharing it

  • @FostedFlake
    @FostedFlake 2 місяці тому +1

    This vid gonna be crazy

  • @unknown23hornet22
    @unknown23hornet22 2 місяці тому

    You could use city-state units to extort people in letting them convert them. This might be possible with Hungary.

  • @asaltedpudding4041
    @asaltedpudding4041 Місяць тому

    can you make a video on T2 governments? T1 and T3 governments are typically very easy to identify when they should be gone for and which one you want for a given situation, while T2s are spread throughout the civic tree and have more esoteric bonuses.

  • @brightlights365
    @brightlights365 Місяць тому

    The hardest part about this victory is actually making religious victory fun enough to do a full game with

  • @CharlieKellyEsq
    @CharlieKellyEsq 2 місяці тому

    This is pretty wild, I have a feeling this will stop working once lobbies are looking out for it now though hehe

  • @DeliciousOrange
    @DeliciousOrange 2 місяці тому

    When the victory condition is so bad that it accidentally loops around to being meta.

  • @FabianTheDank
    @FabianTheDank 2 місяці тому

    Catch me waiting on that VOD in the next few days ;p

  • @musictomyshears
    @musictomyshears 2 місяці тому +3

    How come the BBG mod nerfed those religious leaders if religious victories are seen as unviable in multiplayer civ? Or is it OP without BBG?

    • @ALittleMessi
      @ALittleMessi 2 місяці тому +6

      There's other buffs they get that aren't explicitly for a religious win, i.e. Norway getting science for conversions. Think of someone in base game like Russia that gets a ton of use out of faith with lavras and tundra, which is exactly what bbg nerfs for them

    • @HersonCiv
      @HersonCiv  2 місяці тому +7

      Many of the religious civs in the unmodded game would be overpowered by BBG standards even without religious victory being an option. Base game Khmer has bonuses that are just overtuned to the point that, if you dropped it into BBG without any nerfs, it would be one of the best civs for pursuing science and domination victory, just on the basis of its incredibly strong fundamentals.
      If you want a frame of reference for what BBG's power level is at, some examples of leaders that are mostly unchanged by the mod are Hojo Tokimune and Poundmaker. Civs that are weaker than those are buffed (Netherlands, Georgia, etc.), while civs that are stronger than those are nerfed (Khmer, Gaul, etc.). Bare in mind that combat bonuses in the vanilla game are basically too strong across-the-board for multiplayer, so most domination-focused civs also got their combat bonuses hit in some fashion.

    • @bachpham6862
      @bachpham6862 2 місяці тому

      Religious civs are OP in multiplayer because Monumentality is fundamentally broken both in vanilla and partially in BBG: you can make extremely low investment in faith to get a huge boost in all other yields when you can faith buy settlers and workers, and this is also very early in the game. Therefore, civs that get a bonus from or is able to cheaply get holy sites has to be nerfed along with monumentality.

  • @albertsign8575
    @albertsign8575 2 місяці тому +2

    GOON GANG GOON GANG GOON GANG

  • @y01ru13
    @y01ru13 2 місяці тому

    Amazing! This is what I wanted

  • @mj42644
    @mj42644 2 місяці тому +1

    There I am Gary, there I am.

  • @franprnjat7113
    @franprnjat7113 2 місяці тому +1

    Can someone recommend which Hersons full game to watch if i want to learn early aggro playstyle/leader, thanks in advance

  • @Scallers813
    @Scallers813 2 місяці тому +1

    Where is this full game?

  • @marinauwuxd
    @marinauwuxd 2 місяці тому

    Can you make a video about dealing with barbs while trying to optimize your opening in multiplayer?

  • @fineshine202
    @fineshine202 2 місяці тому +1

    10 am upload in eu LETS GO

  • @michaeldarch9715
    @michaeldarch9715 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome vid

  • @fredg2278
    @fredg2278 2 місяці тому

    How long do multiplayer games take? Could I do one in a sunday (uk time)?

  • @derAlphabet
    @derAlphabet 2 місяці тому

    wait. That ending sent mixed messages

  • @Orhbbs
    @Orhbbs 2 місяці тому

    what happens if you don't win before people can get rock bands with the religious rock promotion?

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 2 місяці тому +1

    Basically... you do war.
    But different.

  • @IlliaShatalov
    @IlliaShatalov 2 місяці тому

    Very interesting video!!!

  • @havelthesock
    @havelthesock 2 місяці тому

    What to take if you don't get Feed the world/Choral music?

  • @soorian6493
    @soorian6493 2 місяці тому

    Kinda wish you needed a casus belli to condemn religious units or condemning/capturing civilians caused heavy war weariness

  • @desq4424
    @desq4424 2 місяці тому +3

    With the way you speaks it's sometimes hard to tell when you are joking or not in situations like this for example 7:38. Fez giving 20 Science but on standard speed game so that's meens he gonna give 10 science per Population on online speed so it's basically the same no?

    • @HersonCiv
      @HersonCiv  2 місяці тому +12

      It actually grants 5 science per population on online speed in BBG. At 2:24, you can see that I convert a 14 pop city and gain 140 science and 70 culture. That's 5 science per pop from Fez bonus, and 5 science & culture per pop from my leader bonus.

    • @desq4424
      @desq4424 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@HersonCiv Okay that's make sense, kinda misleading at first but thanks for explanation.

  • @matthewgarbauski2395
    @matthewgarbauski2395 2 місяці тому

    thank you for this

  • @garbage-wastes
    @garbage-wastes 2 місяці тому

    could you do a video going into byzantium or vietnam with the bbg mod?

  • @cheeseyboy2121
    @cheeseyboy2121 2 місяці тому +5

    I am sorry but WHAT is your discord avatar?!?

    • @MyTomServo
      @MyTomServo 2 місяці тому +3

      It looks like a Shiba Inu / Doge with the VTuber Kornone's hair

  • @DimaErmakov97
    @DimaErmakov97 2 місяці тому +9

    You guys underrate how charming sandro is. His crazy plays, pale handsome face, high pitch girly voice. Nice little anxious boy to calm

  • @agamemnonofmycenae5258
    @agamemnonofmycenae5258 4 дні тому

    You will believe Boat Mormons or you will denounce Venice!

  • @ioioi_prx4639
    @ioioi_prx4639 2 місяці тому

    I feel like trying to win religious victory is as an hassle as in real life

  • @ptsitius
    @ptsitius 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm very ambivalent about all the complex english words you use (example, "incredulity") ; it's annoying that I don't understand, but on the other hand I always google it, and the result beeing me learning new complex english words all the time, hahaha! So, I guess it's a good thing after all :)
    edit: what a great video, the tactics behind the religius v is just brilliant haha, love it!!

  • @sdsdsdssdsdxdd
    @sdsdsdssdsdxdd 2 місяці тому +1

    +660 GOON GANG GAMING

  • @christopherjohnson1873
    @christopherjohnson1873 2 місяці тому +8

    Discount stacking is something that kind of disenchants me about the game, and makes me wish there were more flexibility about how modifiers stack. The fact that discount modifiers stack additively is pretty dumb

  • @romulusnuma116
    @romulusnuma116 2 місяці тому

    Thank you mother bird

  • @enriquetorres6149
    @enriquetorres6149 2 місяці тому

    I think theodora or basil should be good for religious victory

  • @FlyingThunder
    @FlyingThunder 2 місяці тому +2

    it really seems like a terrible strategy since on every other religious civ that doesnt get the big harbors and yields on conversion, conquering the players who dont want conversion is not an option anyways.
    honestly would be probably fine if 1) city centers wouldnt zone of control religious units 2) military units would need more than just 1 movement to condemn

  • @anonymousgoat6136
    @anonymousgoat6136 2 місяці тому

    game legit doesn't allow me to use apostles.

  • @AldiePezeh
    @AldiePezeh 2 місяці тому

    awesome

  • @georgreichel
    @georgreichel 2 місяці тому

    Love it

  • @chrissun9068
    @chrissun9068 2 місяці тому

    Holy shit this is so clever

  • @alonilin
    @alonilin 2 місяці тому

    I wait for a moment herson proves he is the strongest civ player by winning 1 city challenge in multiplayer

  • @robinwells5343
    @robinwells5343 2 місяці тому +1

    So get insanely lucky then

  • @OMGFrijoles
    @OMGFrijoles 2 місяці тому

    nice!!

  • @Huginnn
    @Huginnn 2 місяці тому

    This is one of best video u will put up ❤

  • @daveplays516
    @daveplays516 2 місяці тому

    Goon gang

  • @litlsnekxd
    @litlsnekxd Місяць тому

    nice

  • @oihaoihjoiwefjwef
    @oihaoihjoiwefjwef Місяць тому

    There should be a consequence about deleting missionaries, maybe spread 10% of that religion instead of just dying for free?

  • @theafg5449
    @theafg5449 2 місяці тому +3

    This victory is mostly possible due to the scoring method used to rank ppl in cpl.
    I really liked the idea of online civ but after trying it feels just as boring and way more tedious than beating the AI on deity. Just my opinion though. Thankfully I like watching ur videos that spares me sitting in a lobby for an hour and 4-6 hours of gaming for ppl to forfeit the game. Thank you for your service

    • @CptManboobs
      @CptManboobs 2 місяці тому

      Video games like CIV are unironically best played between IRL friends when you all have no idea how the game's major systems work. Then just wing it and 'roleplay'

  • @CoolCong-nz4rt
    @CoolCong-nz4rt 2 місяці тому +3

    The number of irrel religous players has gone up drastically since the release of this video.

  • @chlve
    @chlve Місяць тому

    #goongang

  • @DaShikuXI
    @DaShikuXI 2 місяці тому +1

    While there is definitely an imbalance, I honestly don't think there really is a bad win con in Civ 6. It just depends on your civ/leader, and then having a solid strategy based on that.

  • @lamMeTV
    @lamMeTV Місяць тому +1

    Well yea of course religious victory is bad if yoo nerf its boons by HALF

  • @romoxes
    @romoxes 2 місяці тому

    😊

  • @endzor
    @endzor 2 місяці тому

    Cinema

  • @jashonlowry7442
    @jashonlowry7442 2 місяці тому +1

    Do a diplo victory

  • @wernerlindorfer3693
    @wernerlindorfer3693 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if you could beat Mark Zuckerberg with this strategy 😅

  • @lolwhatidk
    @lolwhatidk 2 місяці тому

    so basically it only works with bbg

  • @Vivi-ww2ws
    @Vivi-ww2ws 2 місяці тому

    hey dude you should make a video on zuckerbergs statement that he thinks he’s the best civ player in the world I’m actually not joking look at the decertify article he wants to play civ on twitch

  • @Bluten
    @Bluten 2 місяці тому

    "Pretty sure I could consistently pull off diplo victories against underciv" sheesh

  • @lucaslee7567
    @lucaslee7567 2 місяці тому

    Herson trying not to use a new complicated and obscure word to describe his feelings challenge: Level impossible

    • @matsiv5707
      @matsiv5707 2 місяці тому +8

      it's sad higher education failed you if you think he uses big words

    • @beraor4296
      @beraor4296 2 місяці тому +4

      what complicated and obscure word did he use?

  • @fartofwar1404
    @fartofwar1404 2 місяці тому +4

    12 seconds ago with no views, bro fell off

    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 2 місяці тому +16

      This was never funny. Now it's also stale.

  • @brendangregory6373
    @brendangregory6373 2 місяці тому

    Play some more deity

  • @aomafura3374
    @aomafura3374 Місяць тому

    Culture please 🥹
    Early Game: Settlers, Commercial Hubs
    Midgame: Settlers, Feudalism Builders
    Late Game: Science Spam, Industrialization Industrial Zone
    So… where do I Fit my Wonders, Theatre Squares? 😵‍💫
    Holy Sites too maybe?

  • @Wirzxcve
    @Wirzxcve 2 місяці тому

    Now, do a spin

  • @davidanderegg1232
    @davidanderegg1232 2 місяці тому +1

    They definitely need to buff religious victories. People complain it’s not fun but that’s only when people aren’t contesting it. When they do, it quickly turns into a domination-lite victory where instead of killing everyone (which is impossible in the short game time) you only kill a few. But you still have to interact with everyone, apply strategy for who and how to convert, and put a good bit of investment that allows others to counter play by investing more into military.
    One idea would be to remove the pressure loss from condemning heretics. Would make declaring war not an immediate no win situation.