Top 5 Glock Alternatives

[@Closet_Jedi]

My first pistol was an M&P, after trying half a dozen different 9mm handguns, I stopped at the S&W and have never regretted it. 10 years later it still goes bang every time I pull the trigger.

[@johnqpublic2718]

It goes bang even when unloaded? Damn.

[@Etherman7]

I worked for a company that issued 1st gen M&Ps and I got a bad first impression from that. Issued guns are only as good as your armorer and those guns were not well maintained, plus one had an actually defective sight that they just never replaced.
Recently I shot a buddy's M&P that has actually been cared for and its an amazing gun. I've actually been considering buying one when I get some new gun money saved up.

[@Fordgroup00]

@@johnqpublic2718
Right!? You found the guy that’s full of bs

[@DarlingEbony]

I love my M&Ps too. But I'm also a CZ girl

[@Usicky12]

M & Ps are trash. Such an awkward grip, ugly, inaccurate. Buy a Glock or a sig. buy once cry once. The new hammer fired one is ducking garbage too

[@billhoppe2991]

I'm an old man that was a 1911 fan until I started shooting Glocks. After seeing your review of the Shield Plus, I bought one with the optics cut and put a dot sight on it. I really don't care to shoot anything else now. My friends wife was looking for a new carry gun and I sent them you and Mrs. Outlaw's review on the Kimber R7 Mako and they bought one. I got to shoot and it's a sweet gun. Thanks to both of you.

[@CompetitionChris]

I'm curious why you didn't suggest the Shield Plus for the carry gun?

[@JakeCamo]

@@CompetitionChris because Mrs outlaw proffered the kimber over the shield plus, fit her hands better. So he was just showing her what she thought, rather then suggest what worked for him. I’d rather have the shield plus, but we are all different.

[@DG-dk4oi]

If you have the budget the staccato c2 is hands down best carry 2011 series out there. You will shelf the shield plus but I do love a shield so get both. Haha

[@billhoppe2991]

@@CompetitionChris She had shot my Shield Plus but it didn't fit her hand like the Mako. The Mako actually has less felt recoil and Mrs. Outlaw was the clincher for both of them.

[@billhoppe2991]

@@DG-dk4oi Never going to have enough for one of those. I'm just a poor old man on social security. Maybe I could get a go fund me to buy one. take care.

[@Emogeta]

5: Canik (Series)
4: IWI Masada
3: CZ P10
2: S&W M&P (Series)
1: Walther PDP/PPQ

[@brudy6021]

Glad to see the PDP made your number one. I’m an older guy with arthritis issues which is why I bought a Smith & Wesson 9EZ originally. I also have the 442. I still like both these guns a lot and don’t plan to part with them but I wanted a bit more capacity. After seeing your initial review of the PDP I decided to go check it out and ended up buying it. Love this gun and even with my arthritis issues it is still very manageable for me. I like your reviews and enjoy your UA-cam channel very much. Thanks

[@DutchMDeacon]

I was a Glock guy for over a decade until I shot a P10C. It's everything out of the box that I wanted my Glocks to be (and spent a crap ton of money trying to achieve.)

[@charliefields6167]

Definitely agree I love my p10c

[@donsal.t.1765]

They look a little cooler too imo

[@jamespannell8228]

I gotta newer p07 and love it!!!!

[@czwarlord9243]

I just wish cz would make a 10mm p10

[@v.german11b]

Wise evolution choice!

[@lounaticlouie]

CZ P10S. I never thought I would own a striker fired gun, but the CZ is the game changer.

[@robertsims9201]

My game changer was a FNX 45 Tactical and FN FN509C Tactical. A lot of people sleep on FNs. Pure sex right out the box.

[@chemislife]

@@robertsims9201 when I was deciding on my first hand gun I was in a 3 way tie between the CZ, PPQ, and the VP9. I didn't care for the recoil and snap of the 509 compared to those 3. Ended up doing a random number generator and ended up with the P-10 and still carry it 3 years later.

[@wayne6386]

@@chemislife You lucked out. It's the firearms god ways of telling you to go with CZ p10. Which in my opinion is best out of the 3 regardless of price. 🔫

[@Mach141]

@@robertsims9201 easy bro, sex with handguns could be dangerous

[@robertsims3759]

@@chemislife The recoil and snap isn't a problem for me. I find it smooth. Every time I go to the range people always check out what I'm shooting because I have the tightest groups out of everyone. Trijicon RMR helps lol. But anyways they are equally impressed with the 509. I am too. It's a great partner to my FNX 45.

[@HSmith-uk9hl]

Your pick of the PDP as your number one is spot on. I've owned a 4" Compact now for awhile and couldn't ask for a better striker fired pistol. Having shot a number of Glocks, the PDP is, IMO, a better pistol..

[@justinwoolhiser5120]

I shot probably 12 different handguns to see which I wanted to purchase for my first. I wasn’t even looking at the PDP until my friend rented it and I tried it and as soon as I shot it I could tell it was the one

[@toynazi]

PDP hands down over any Glock.
I've turned into a cz fanboy the last few years. But I love the PDP 4 inch.

[@Prerich45]

@@justinwoolhiser5120 PDP is a nice firearm indeed!!!!

[@alabamatik42]

I honestly didn't really want a 9mm until I looked into this one. Now I find myself looking at the canik sf elite or the sc elite. How wrong I was about 9mm. I love my compact PDP, Ii think more then my Glock 21!

[@EndoftheBlock7224]

I agree, I fell in love with the Walther PDP about two months ago. I have or shot all the guns you listed and then some and the Walther just feels great and shoots 1 clover leaf hole at 7 yards without trying too hard. Love it.

[@cliffordmurdock2407]

i just seen that they are offering a fde version of the pdp. only seen it in the 4 in compact so far.

[@BigMod167]

@@cliffordmurdock2407 green and two-tone gray as well.

[@James-gb7px]

​@@cliffordmurdock2407

[@royrivera007]

For a Glock alternative I'll still pick my CZ P07! I know it's not a striker fired pistol, but to me it is way better than any Glock right out of the box!

[@bsmithhammer]

Hammers beat strikers every day of the week.

[@shiftyeffect6597]

Would love for CZ to produce an optics ready version.

[@miltonoliver3705]

p10 series for me, better ergonomics, trigger, cz is tied with fn as my favorite hand gun maker

[@dilldowschwagginz2674]

Same here. I fu**Ed around and bought a P10 in 2017 and ended up with over a dozen CZ's at this point. I swear CZ is addictive

[@billwell9266]

Bought my son a P-09 for his college grad present ... ended up going back and getting a p-07 for me and one for my other son for his 21st b-day. Now want a striker fired one! Love them!

[@jaycarr590]

Oh yea all day...sp, p-01, 7, 9 and 10. I’ve shot glocks...ok...ehhhh . I’ll stick w my CZs. Nothing against glocks..just wasn’t impressed . That because I did the worst thing possible . My first pistol was a CZ so every other pistol I pick up is compared to Cz. So...end of story.

[@miltonoliver3705]

I own, a bren 2, I owned a scorpion, love me some cz, if they bring the bren in 308 to the US I'm in

[@HHenry-tt1of]

I've got about 5k rds with my P10c and it's only had 2 hang ups with Winchester white box, it replaced a Gen 3 19 and other than aftermarket accessories, I really don't miss it

[@tedgoebel5907]

I purchased a full size 4.5” PDP after watching your prior review(s). Phenomenal pistol! Could not be happier. You helped cement my confidence even prior to purchase.

[@v.german11b]

I concur!

[@ConservativeGangstR]

I also purchased the same exact pistol after viewing that video. I've always wanted a Walther and had been looking at the PPQ, I was literally weeks away from purchasing one and the review for the PDP came out. So glad I waited.

[@gas1858]

Me too. Love my Walther. Made me a better shot

[@rubbafunk]

He has helped all of us, no doubt. I'm doing my best to always remember to thumb up each video.

[@tedgoebel5907]

@@DinoNucci You know what they say, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.

[@reyesk00]

I got a IWI Masada for my first handgun and it hasn’t let me down yet. Great features. It’s a great gun overall. I’m in love

[@OhioCruffler]

Now that they have the bugs worked out the Palmetto Dagger could have gotten a mention. The Arex Delta is a great too.
I agree on the IWI, too. Nice gun.

[@rob6850]

Oh are the bugs worked out on the Dagger?

[@bthemedia]

I believe this top 5 was “not glock-clone” alternatives

[@zombie4726]

Eh Dagger trigger isn’t that great and i question the long term quality , reliability and durability from a manutfracter known for not so good quality control

[@OhioCruffler]

@@zombie4726 The durability issue seems to be OK; they have press guns that have over 20k rounds on them.

[@Mavvyd96]

14:33 This is why I watch Honest Outlaw. Great video as always, man. I'm glad the P10 family made it in at #3 as a 10c owner.

[@dilldowschwagginz2674]

Amazing that you were able to buy one CZ and stop... I bought a 10C years ago. Quickly followed by the S (my favorite), F, P09 and then a slew of carbines and PCC's. Just got the bren 2 in a few weeks ago

[@Mavvyd96]

@@dilldowschwagginz2674 I'm poor and generally don't buy a lot of similar guns.

[@J.Young808]

I got a P-10C & F at the same time. Then I got a Shadow2 and then a P-10C Tactical in gray. I got a Norsso slide for my Tactical to mount a red dot. I just sent off my 10F to get milled for a 509T. I like that the 10F slide fits the 10C frame and functions unlike the G17/19.

[@aldovillalta5297]

@@dilldowschwagginz2674 The P-10 S is my favorite carry gun! I’m surprised it never caught on and got discontinued. Probably due to the micro 9s that came out. Still far prefer a double stack sub compact to the new micro 9s.

[@Deucea1953]

I really like my PDP. Great gun, shoot’s accurately, feels good and an excellent grip. And it’s my first 9mm, which you recommended in a previous video. So thanks for the recommendation.

[@joematiacio3449]

Walther PDP 4" and PDP -F 3.5" guns are EXCELLENT. I've been running a G19 Gen 5 and SW Shield Plus, but once I shot the PDP all my other guns are on standby. I'm so impressed with the PDP, Walther sends excellent optic plates for your particular red dot. Well done, and I agree completely.

[@paulsmith4889]

That list damn near mirrors mine for alternative striker fire polymer handguns other than Glocks. The only one I would add to that list outside the top 5 mentioned would be the Beretta APX. Granted it isn't sexy or a really wow factor as far as eye catching. The APX is not hard on the wallet, reputable gun manufacturer in Beretta, and have optics mounting slides.

[@jamesw7072]

I'm debating between the Canik rival darkside or the CZ P10F

[@l4h4l11]

Both are great choices go with whichever feels better in your hands.

[@najibdarwich3925]

I saw the APX A1 full size at the NRA in Houston and I loved the way it feels in the hand but not sure about buying one since it’s pretty much copy of the Walter PDP full size but lots cheaper and agree with you about the not strong marketing for this gun which will push customers away and not much reviews on UA-cam too

[@v.german11b]

The newly revised Beretta APX Gen 2 is almost like a clone of the Walther PDP.

[@DeshanNaidoo]

Yeah, I agree. The APX series is a great alternative and I would have put it in my top 3. I like the way the thing looks, has character!

[@ISPhotographic]

Canik Mete and Rival. Triggers are insane.

[@jdiggy1195]

Completely agree with the PDP/PPQ. I love the Walthers and have had amazing reliability! No regerts with Walther.

[@kalashnikussy]

I've been saying for years that Canik pistols are everything a Glock should be, for a comically low price. They are phenomenal guns and people seem to sleep on them for no reason at all. I've been carrying a TP9Sc Elite (the sub compact shown in the video) for years now and I've been satisfied the entire time. I also frequently run the SFx in 2 gun competitions and it performs flawlessly. The only downside I could see leveled at Caniks is due to the fact that they're relatively new to the polymer pistol market, 3rd party accessory support is a little lacking. But I would attribute this to people (and companies) deepthroating Glock's balls for so long they're too scared to try something new and branch out into other platforms. Canik has also been improving their designs and market appeal with lines like the new METE series, and companies like Taylor Freelance provide a good selection of parts to tailor your gun to your needs. 10/10 guns, 10/10 company.

[@920WASHBURN]

People buy Glocks for the same reason they buy iPhones. Cuz everybody else has one

[@tinkertalksguns7289]

@@920WASHBURN Not completely wrong, but not entirely true. Yes they've got the rep, but they earned it. BTW got my first Canik- a TP9v2- about 7 years ago for $325. Came with all the goodies including extra mags and a holster at that price! It was awesome, but my wife's BFF fell in love with it and it went away.

[@920WASHBURN]

@@tinkertalksguns7289 why would you let your wife have a BF?

[@tinkerpearce]

@@920WASHBURN Best Friend? A) why would I stop her and B)bold of you to think I could.

[@920WASHBURN]

@@tinkerpearce I meant boyfriend. Twas a joke sir

[@Gl0ckb1te]

Arex delta should have gotten an honorable mention. It uses cz p10 mags

[@leonkarpov674]

Heck yeah it does. One day i just tried it with my cz mags and to my surprise and excitement.... It worked. Thank the gun gawds!!!

[@kens17761]

I agree. I like the arex delta.

[@josh656]

I don’t have one but would love to get one based on the reviews and value.

[@dilldowschwagginz2674]

I agree. I'm a CZ guy but the Delta 2 is legit and anything that runs CZ mags is already ahead of the curve

[@erniefritz1]

I Agree , Arex Delta Gen 2 should have made the list definitely....

[@KevinOwen87]

I have the Canik TP9SF and I love it. The trigger is great, never had a malfunction and extremely accurate.

[@kartersidhu7744]

Excellent trigger

[@Usicky12]

Canik is an awesome brand for the price

[@looseballs1966]

Have to agree Kevin my TP9 DA is hard to beat at any price.

[@Mandis13]

For the money, they are very, VERY hard to beat!
Also, and lets not kid ourselves here, they LOOK snazzy, and that can matter. When you go to the range, it is nice to have someone remark on your cool-looking gun. :)

[@johnhili8574]

I have the tp9 SFX signature series white out and it has had problems with failures to eject. The PDP, VP9, APX, M&P are all better IMHO. Only thing canik has is it looks cooler

[@HowardRoarkBR]

I love the IWI Masada, I just wish they improved the after market support. Way too hard finding extra mags and compatible parts

[@Bravo-Too-Much]

Throw that garbage away.

[@jimwells7727]

Have been watching your channel the better part of 11yrs, garnered great info from you and your better half. Just purchased the PDP compact with holosun 509T for my wife to carry, you were instrumental in this decision, Thanks man.

[@Odin9Realms]

I’m a Glock fanboi and have many models and generations, however my current carry gun is a P10C ☹️. I just prefer it over my 19, it feels better in every way to me.

[@DarlingEbony]

I love my P10C.

[@axlplayer14]

Love my M&P 2.0 4.25 full size. Got it because it was $150 less than a Glock 19 initially, but I really enjoy this pistol. Super soft shooting and great ergonomics and texture. I even like the stock trigger.

[@georgebrown6599]

I love my M&P 2.0 4.25”, but changing the trigger out to an Apex Tactical flat faced trigger made it SO much of a better pistol. Everyone with a 2.0 should get the Apex. I also got the slide milled and added an optic and now it’s one of my favorite guns.

[@easbreid9879]

@@georgebrown6599 i have one in my M2.0, 100% agree with you brother. That Apex trigger in the M2.0 made mine an absolute tack driver, at 15 or even 20 yrds the bullseye turns into a ragged 2" hole. The ergonomics and texture of the M2.0 grip combined with that Apex trigger made my M2.0 my go to pistol.

[@gort4016]

I couldn't agree more on the Walther PDP. It feels like part of your hand, the trigger is excellent, and the price doesn't require a loan officer.

[@heniser]

5: Shadow Systems MR920
4: S&W M&P (Series)
3: CZ P10
2: Heckler & Koch VP9
1: Walther PDP

[@Beach_JT]

Love the videos, got my first pistol and rifle this weekend after extensive youtube reviews, alot being yours :) Settled for the Walther PDP and a Ruger 556. Your PDP reviews are 100% on point. I'm in the market now for a another pistol and this video was perfect for it. Thank you.

[@danperry3116]

I'm sorry for you, now that you have the bug you won't be able to stop. I bought my first handgun two and a half years ago and I just bought my 8th 2 weeks ago. Welcome to the club

[@mikekrueger8310]

I absolutely love my M&P and want a PDP, so those would be 1 and 2. The list you have is pretty much golden. Great video

[@markyoungman7267]

I bought my Masada after your first shots video, and it is still my favorite. Love the rolling trigger. I am very accurate with it. Great gun.

[@TapRackStovepipe]

After having literally every gun on the list I will say I love the fn 509, I do shoot the PDP better but the 509 is just the best feeling gun I’ve ever carried. Never digs into me, super comfortable.

[@legionp229saoconvertedme4]

But the trigger fuckin sucks... It's the one thing that I just couldn't get over

[@ErrlWorx556]

Seriously, what did FN do to this trigger? It's a shame aftermarket triggers are such a pain to install as well and Apex doesn't offer the service anymore.
ua-cam.com/users/shortsVlFKWgbuaRU

[@imlurkn5291]

I have the Canik Rival and the full size PDP, and I personally like the Canik Rival better. To me the trigger is smoother and follow up shots. I let my neighbor shoot mine at the range and he ordered one online the same night

[@brandondane4777]

I think your right. But I’ve only held both

[@michaelnaschke4151]

Canik's trigger group is a clone of the Walther P99. The thing people love most about canik is a Walther component. That being said, Caniks' triggers are almost as good the walther's aftermarket performance triggers (on the PDP Pro SD models) and if you buy the pro SD it's price is very comparable to the canik rival's price.

[@imlurkn5291]

@@brandondane4777 Can't go wrong with either one. Both are same price but you get alot more in the box with the rival but can't find mags anywhere. You get less in box with PDP ibut you can find mags

[@imlurkn5291]

@@michaelnaschke4151 I wanted the pdp pro but couldn't find it anywhere. I thought the pdp pro was like 800+ though compared to the Rival 650? I can't believe how good the The Rival trigger is out the box. It's the best striker fire trigger I've ever felt

[@michaelnaschke4151]

@@imlurkn5291 my local dealer sells them for 740$ here in Texas. I guess it may depend on where you live and the market in that state. The rival here is around $680-720$ so it's negligible between the both of them for me.

[@Downfal1]

The Beretta APX imo an underrated gun.

[@toddparsons2980]

Especially the new Full size APX A1.

[@Albertalorian]

I was just about to say, my APX FDE Combat is prob the best striker 9mm I own. I've done 0 mods to it, 4.5lb trigger, smooth as butter, real Beretta metal magazines that are the same price as Glock OEM ones. My only gripe is the sights, and trying to change them (research before attempting this). I do love my other guy, but this one is the gold standard that isn't a hammer fired HK.

[@fastjazz]

Not being a super crazy pistol guy mostly because living in CT is a disincentive to large collections of mags all being blocked to ten rounds) I have but a tiny, tiny current collection (no glocks to be seen anywhere, way too many of them out there for me) that looks as follows:
- Walther PDP 4” compact (carry and home defense) with red dot
- Sig P320 x5 Legion with red dot
- CZ Shadow 2 optics ready (still waiting for a plate to arrive) with Lok G10 grips
Others that will or may soon cross the CT transom include:
Bul Armory Tac 4.25
New Sig x10
No glocks on the horizon…

[@goldtiptimmy88]

Have the PDP, definitely my favorite pistol hands down. Will end looking into CZ P-10 C (have a CZ 75). Have a Shield pro performance edition, 2.0 is enticing as well as the Hellcat. Also like the Canik, might grab one of those. Great video on alternatives. Not much of a Glock fan boy so this is perfect.

[@notyouraveragegoldenpotato]

If you have hands of any significant size whatsoever the p320 is great. Big big. Hands. I don't like the ergos

[@Supercharged1976]

Because of you I bought the PDP 4” slide full-size and I have to say best gun I’ve ever owned! When you bring it up for the shot it feels so light even with a full mag and one in the pipe. I think it’s the balance that gives it such a light feel. If you’re thinking about it don’t…..just do it you absolutely will not regret it!

[@208SledHead]

P10 for me as well.
*IF* S&W ever figured out how to provide a better reset than what they have, the M&P might take the lead for me over the CZ. But I'm such a CZ fan and I don't see Smith doing that any time soon.
Great list as always Chris - gonna go sub to the Outlaw Life....your guy's shenanigans always crack me up! haha

[@czwarlord9243]

Yeah the reset sucks.

[@stephenlawrence252]

Check out the new version of the M&p 2.0 with new trigger makes me want to sell my 2.0 and get one

[@tautawhiao7425]

Bro so true about the S&W!

[@czwarlord9243]

@Jim Jones he’s not running a stock gun. Not to mention there is only one Miculek

[@208SledHead]

@Jim Jones I'm wanting a better reset so I don't have to pay such close attention to when I can fire again. It has nothing to do with speed. Jerry is in a league of his own and doesn't really need to worry about defined resets...but I do. And I have Apex everything in my first gen M&P and the reset is no different from stock. It's almost non existent.

[@MrJackattack666]

Walther hands down best gun out of the box because of the trigger. Love all the other guns but walther got it going on. Super reliable and rugged. People complain about the high bore excess but it dont matter with that trigger accuracy. Superb.

[@theblackboxpodcastshow1791]

My first pistol is your #1 choice and I love the PDP . I have the 1st Gen 4” compact and mounted it with a Holosun HE507C-GR-X2-ACSS. You’re right,when I “ rack” the slide , I do it with the front slide and not from the rear ( on the optic ) . I may rent and shoot the others on your list but this Walther is my EDC and I wouldn’t have it any other way 😎😎

[@seanoneil277]

I got to try G19 gen 4 and gen 5 last summer before deciding on a compact pistol. Fondled P-10C, PDP and M+P at the store, but didn't shoot them. Disliked Glock ergos after shooting XDM for a year, grip angle was wrong and grip shape felt awkward in my hand. Gen 5 G19 trigger was pretty good, despite the weird ergos. Bought P-10C and it's replaced the XDM as my competition pistol. Running Holosun 509T and Streamlight TLR 7A in Carry Optics. Fantastic pistol with a trigger reset that is unbelievably fast. Accurate and very smooth & relatively flat recoil, especially with TLR 7A adding some ballast up front.
I shot a borrowed G19 gen 5 with a slightly tuned trigger and Truglo iron sights at a Glock match earlier this summer. The weird grip angle was good for irons use for me, I don't shoot irons more than 5% of the time. I almost bought one after shooting that match. But I'd rather shoot the CZ.

[@chrisw3776]

I knew the Walther PDP would be on the list. The F model might be marketed toward women, I don't really care, I think the PDP F has the perfect sized grip, at least for me.
It's not perfect, but it is probably one of the best pistols to come out in the last couple of years. A solid 9/10.

[@phillipcraddock8248]

your so right on that picked one up the other day and its perfect

[@Redacted-Information]

Everyone, just imagine the main comment in high pitched mickeymouse type voice, guaranteed to make you laugh

[@VB6000.]

Optics ready PDP F is top notch.

[@manonfire3642]

The "F" stands for "Finality" meaning you won't need anything else. In today's world, women conceal carry men apparatuses between their legs so the definition of a female has lost its true meaning.

[@toddparsons2980]

I like the F grip better than std. Just wish they had F with std length trigger reach.

[@thatonebaldguy1919]

As someone who switched from a Glock 19 to a Sig P365XL for daily concealed carry, I greatly appreciate the size difference. yes I give up 3 rounds in the magazine to do so but I now have Mag Guts +2 spring and follower system that gets me to 14 rounds in a flush fitting magazine! My biggest gripes with the P365XL are that the grip is just a little too small for my preference (the G19 grip was a little too big lol) and you lose the rear iron sight when using a red dot. You can buy grip module replacements that are bigger (I use the Wilson Combat one) and the newest XL slides keep the rear irons, so these negatives aren't too bad. For daily CC it's hard to beat!

[@adam1776-]

I have been loving the CZ P10C for a few years now. I’ve had minimal trouble with it, and it just works for me. That’s the key….Find what fits your performance best, and keep practicing…… to Mr. Honest Outlaw, thanks for another quality vid!

[@mikemccann978]

CZ P-10 FTW!

[@307living3]

Got a p10 f at the local murdochs for 367 dollars in my opinion I stole it. Excellent firearm

[@mikemccann978]

@@307living3 I paid 450 for my P-10 C at Sportsman’s and felt the exact same way! $367.00 is a steal sir, very nice buy!

[@blastedmcgraw152]

Bought the compact PDP last month and I absolutely love it. Almost bought a P10 C but the Walther just felt better in my hand. Already have a Glock 17 as my bedside pistol. Glock is great and so are all its competitors. It’s a great time to be in the market!

[@procop4063]

😮u know

[@alabamatik42]

My first firearm purchase months ago was a Glock 21, I absolutely love it. Recently I purchased the Walther PDP compact and I think I love that one more. Of course until I purchase another new weapon. I'm pretty sure I got bit by the firearm bug. I'm having too much fun at the range with these weapons. I bought my first rifle about a month before I got the Walther. Kalashnikov USA KR 103, this rifle is unbelievable! Now I'm looking at AR 10's chambered in 308, I might have a problem.

[@hartsickdisciple]

I had a Canik TP9 SF for almost 2 years. It's a great pistol, and every bit as reliable as a Glock. The trigger is right up there with the Walther PPQ/PDP. The problem is that I couldn't find the 18 or 20 round magazines anywhere for over a year and a half. They were out of stock everywhere, online and in stores. That's a deal-breaker for me. It was that problem which caused me to buy a Shadow Systems MR920, which is Glock magazine/holster compatible. Now I don't have to worry about finding magazines (which are cheaper), and other accessories. The Glock ecosystem is what led me to buy a premium Glock clone, which already had all the upgrades I would've done to a G19, and for less than it would've costed me to do it.

[@stringfellowlocke2214]

When I was looking for a home defense pistol, I saw one of your reviews on canik. And I went with the mete SFx, and it is an outstanding firearm. I've only got about 500 rounds through it, but it has been flawless, and so easy too shoot it is scary!

[@hard_on_knives3145]

PDP F will be my next purchase I already have the TP9 ELITE and love it also use my VP9 for more Harry situations but carrying the Shadow systems mr920 for now its my favorite

[@elliotandkorbin9988]

I bought a PDP because of Honest Outlaw. I've been very pleased with the purchase. It's a great gun.

[@zaccarter3801]

Not a lower cost alternative but the shadow systems mr920 has been fantastic. Amazing optics mount, great grip inserts, awesome sights, a gas pedal, uses Glock mags and gen4 parts, uses g19 holsters, an excellent trigger (does need a break in period though). It’s my all purpose first handgun and will consider a conceal carry firearm soon. It is good for conceal carry but could be nice to have something a little smaller than Glock 19 size

[@TheRitualChannel]

With all the features and street price of under $600, the Canik Rival made my handgun purchase decision.

[@v.german11b]

I own the Darkside model.

[@ryanhowe9850]

Glock 17 owner for the last 10 years, thousands of rounds. Bought a 4.5” PDP last week, Sold all my Glocks..

[@Jackson-zb8ru]

Shooting glock 19 and carried it for 4yrs love it to death. Bought a Walther PDP f series the other day my god it’s a phenomenal trigger the grip texture by far my favorite out of any pistol I shot the slide serrations may see over kill to some but shooting outside in Florida it’s muggy and hot but the serrations make it feel super easy to rack back regardless of sweat. Deff recommend for anyone looking for a good handgun

[@leoanthony7281]

My first pistol in the year of our Lord 1992 was a Glock 19, loved it and the dozen plus Glocks I’ve owned over the years that I have put 10’s of thousands of rounds through. However, I agree with you Outlaw my PDP is my favorite, the best trigger of any polymer gun I’ve shot or owned plus the ergonomics and texture is pretty much perfect.

[@CPlanet9]

I’ve got two guns on this list, and I’m getting a 3rd!!!! I love my Canik SC Elite, just wish I could get mags for it. I’m totally in LOVE with my PDP Full size!!!! Now I’m looking to get an FN509 midsize!!!! Great video!!!!! You always give me more guns and such to research before I try them, and possibly buy them. Thank you!!!!

[@Horgler]

Some more honorable mentions: Beretta APX A1, Arex Delta Gen2, Mossberg MC2c. All optics-ready, all cost less than a Glock.

[@v.german11b]

Yes, indeed. I agree.

[@BaronSaturday66]

I have an APX. They are very tough.

[@v.german11b]

@@BaronSaturday66 the newly revised Beretta APX Gen 2 is almost a clone of the Walther PDP.

[@BaronSaturday66]

@@v.german11b I was just reading about it in the latest Shooting Times

[@v.german11b]

@@BaronSaturday66 I saw the new improved APX model at the NRA convention in Houston, Texas. I am waiting to buy me one as soon as I get a hold of one.

[@richardbrewer8301]

I do still carry my Gen 3 Glock 19 and lately a couple friends have surprised me because they also had Glock 19's as their main carry guns but one of them traded his in on a Canik and the other got a Hellcat Pro and they love them but I will probably never let go of my 19 .

[@Payner2644]

I agree with the PDP! I own the full size with a 4.5" barrel. One you didn't include that is great is the PSA Dagger. I own two and just love them!!

[@bryanduchane2371]

My next gun is going to be a CZ. Never owned or shot one, but haven't heard anyone say anything but great things about CZ!!!

[@ResplendentRaider]

Same here.

[@donovanchilton5817]

They're really, really good. Try to get an optics ready model.

[@jonnsmusich]

Likewise

[@joewalker6931]

I sold three Glocks and now have 2 CZ’s and not looking back.

[@MeangreenJolene]

Do it!

[@sv2697]

Canik TP9 for the win! Especially the Elite Combat. It's the cheapest firearm I have that shoot with the same consistency as my shadow 2. Within 30 yrds their both neck and neck.

[@D-A-1776]

Love the m&p line, I have a 2.0 compact, a shield plus, the 10mm and the full size 2.0 all reliable

[@Jarrow13]

Cool video. My top 5 alternatives are. 5) Arex Delta. 4) S&W M&P 2.0. 3) Canik SF Mete. 2) CZ P10 series. 1) Sig P365 XL

[@roul3688]

How did I know the PDP/PPQ would be #1? I couldn’t agree more.

[@robjohnson6747]

SAR 9 seems like an underrated gun considering the amount of punishment it’s been through . I don’t own one but they can be had for under $350 at times

[@mrfwaka]

I 100% agree with the PDP! Amazing trigger, lightweight, good capacity, great slide serations and grip!

[@topherthered]

Got my PDP as a gift. After I fired it, no going back. Love it.

[@michaelswick4251]

Love my Caniks! The trigger is excellent.

[@Talix.]

I just got a Taurus GX4 TORO for $265. Nice alternative if you need a gun to keep in your office, in the bathroom or something like outside at the pool and don't want to spend a lot.

[@Tusk_Tact]

in the bathroom? does that mean the gun is shitty?

[@scottschreiber6008]

Runner up is the Springfield XD line. I have had a sub compact xd9 for ever 9 years and it has been 100% reliable and I shoot it better still then my cz’s and Caniks. Love the video!

[@JustinLaFleur1990]

Loved my Canik TP9SF I only sold it because I work armed security and at the time not a lot of Security companies knew about Canik so it wasn't authorized as a duty weapon. I will get one again here in the future.

[@v.german11b]

Excellent handgun!

[@wayne6386]

Go with the Rival or Mete (pro) this time around. You won't regret it. GL🔫

[@DG-dk4oi]

I agree. Sold my standard P320s but hands down my AXG scorpion is on another level. I have nothing bad to say about it, but I also understand not everyone has 900 to 1300 dollars to blow

[@DG-dk4oi]

@in desperate need of a scotch I have both and never looked back. Both phenomenal shooting guns. I liked the fastback over the full size as well

[@DG-dk4oi]

@in desperate need of a scotch yeah they aren't cheap brother. Unfortunately

[@shooterqqqq]

Thank you for this list. I have said that Glock is a mediocre pistol with the greatest marketing program of all time. That still made the fanboys angry. I did my own research after training with a borrowed Glock and bought two M&Ps. Then I bought the Canik. Amazing.

[@citizenoftheninthdivision]

@Monster Alleycat👹 Don't need to. There's a million better companies making striker fired pistols anyway. Kvetch harder.

[@v.german11b]

You are correct, Kezur.

[@v.german11b]

@Monster Alleycat👹 It has been already. Check out Walther, H&K, CZ, Sig Sauer, Beretta, Canik, S&W, and others gun manufacturers. They are just as good, and some are way better than Glock. Go along with the evolution of striker-fired polymer frame handguns; it is not only Glock anymore.

[@abc4781]

@Monster Alleycat👹 lol why? When others already have.

[@sammyg4806]

You are right, the name and historic brand is what carries them at this point, but if you buy a Glock, you won’t go wrong. Glock models remain as reliable as any pistol in the market.
I have a Glock 30 Gen 4, not my favorite gun to shoot, and I don’t carry it much. The thing is built like a husky tank, and its mags are cheap.
That said, I am flirting with trading it in for a Canik.

[@JacksonWalter735]

Nice list Honest Outlaw. This is mine:
1. Walther PDP
2. Sig P320
3. CZ P10
4. S&W M&P
5. Canik TP9
My honorable mentions would be:
6. HK VP9 (it would have made the list if the Walther PDP didn't replace the PPQ
7. FN 509 (would have been higher if it wasn't as expensive, doesn't do more than something like the M&P, doesn't have great aftermarket support).
8. Beretta APX A1 (not the Carry or the A1 Carry though because that is a rebranded Nano).

[@commentarywithconnor]

Current pistol lineup from NJ:
Rock island 1911
Jericho 141 4”
Taurus G3 4”
M&P Shield 3” Compact (Carry)
You’re really getting me excited about the Masada lately. I’m a big IWI fan.

[@kevting4512]

Underrated but the Springfield XD is a fantastic shooter for an affordable package especially if it's a used model.

[@cainhager9814]

The XD is what I have, never had a reliability issue, shoots very accurate and doesn't have a lot of recoil, comfortable, its all forged with melonite coating, completely ambidextrous, and I got it with 2 mags and some ammo for a little over 300. Springfield imo doesn't get the popularity they deserve for their guns

[@calholli]

I got my XDM 5.25 for $340. lol.. 4 mags, 2 have fancy extended base plates. It's actually sick. I love how it fits my hand and it's so broken in; the trigger is very good-- 4 lbs at most

[@ericadams920]

I agree, specially the new xdm Elite models. i have thousands of rounds through multiple models with zero issues and I dont clean my guns only oil occasionally.

[@TsunTzu]

Love my Caniks. No complaints whatsoever.

[@ronbouchard9832]

Have it, love it, because of your review PDP in 5” compact. Everyone who has fired it can’t believe how it runs clean.
Old revolver guy just getting into “clip” guns, six shooter works just fine but 15 is always better “when needed”
Both of you always make me smile

[@ecalzo]

Nailed 100% the manipulation above the slide using fron serrations of the slide for people who runs optics.. i do that all the time and for that reason i got a G17 mos with front serrations ... Thank you from italy as Usual

[@Agent_Missouri]

Everyone, and I mean everyone, needs a canik rival in their arsenal. Love those pistols so much

[@Tracer-Round]

i bought an IwI masada instead, my roommate got the rival....I like the masadas performance over the Canik

[@v.german11b]

Yes, Mr. Smith. I own a Canik SFX Darkside. I looove it!!! Best smooth striker-fired trigger pull weight, producing incredible accuracy.

[@Agent_Missouri]

@@v.german11b I’ve had 8 total canik pistols. Down to just 3 now (original sfx which was my first one, elite combat, and the rival) I recommend them to anyone. Everyone I show or let shoot them, the next time I see them they have one lol.

[@Agent_Missouri]

@@Tracer-Round I’ve yet to come across a Masada in person. Once I get my hands on it I’m sure I’ll like it and have to have one. I’m old school though I don’t like to buy anything unless I’ve held it in my hands first.

[@v.german11b]

@@Agent_Missouri I used to own 5 different Canik models. I am down to the two METE models, the SFT and the SFX, and also got the SFX Rival Darkside, three. I heard Canik will be releasing the METE SFT Pro, supposedly a hybrid of the METE and Rival.

[@Minority2a]

Steyr m9a2 is a hidden gem for me

[@ethanvanzant2402]

I would even venture to go into the CZ P07/P09. Those guns really got me into shooting DA/SA hammer-fired guns and the P07 is such a sweet shooting carry gun.

[@jeremycollin2633]

I have the PDP and the Canik TP9Elite combat. I love both. I have to say my favorite is the TP9. It shoots so flat and minimal recoil for such a short gun. It’s also much heavier than the PDP so it isn’t the best for EDC. Walther is my EDC when I’m not carrying the G43x.

[@inahurrytooften3121]

After getting a PDP-F, my Glocks got sent to other homes. Dramatically better results with the Walther from a cold start.
I’ve looked for 36 years to find a suitable replacement.

[@bthemedia]

Colion Noir just raved about it too

[@unif13]

In the same boat. Got a full size, and promptly sold my G19 to get the compact as well. Can't be beat imo

[@Narsuitus]

Thanks for the list of Glock Alternatives.
If I were forced to replace my HK 45 and HK 9mm handguns with something from the five on your list, the S&W and the Canik would be the ones I would consider. However, if I could add Glock to the list, I would also consider Glock.
On the other hand, since I prefer hammer-fired, I would probably pick a Berretta instead.

[@mikemph7779]

My wife shoots a PX4 storm subcompact and man I really enjoy shooting it too. It’s turned out to be a way better gun than I anticipated.
Just curious why do you prefer hammer fired?

[@Narsuitus]

@@mikemph7779
When I first started shooting, I started with revolvers. With my revolvers, I got used to manually cocking and de-cocking my handguns.
My first semi-automatic was a striker-fire. I missed the manually cocking and de-cocking. I also missed being able to look at the hammer position to tell if the gun was cocked. Also, since I still shoot revolvers and since I like my handguns to have similar ergonomics, the semi-automatics I purchased after my first one were all hammer-fired.

[@chaunceygardiner178]

I bought the PDP compact and the m&p shield plus because of your channel, love them both.
I also have S&W 686 but I got that before the internet.

[@sbickmore15]

I EDC a Canik TP9SFX with Holosun 507C X2 and TLR-1. I absolutely love it.

[@gameragodzilla]

The only “Glock style” handgun I like is the Walther P99, due to how unique the Anti-Stress trigger mechanism is.
Also because it’s James Bond’s gun.

[@nimbly1693]

I have a TP9. There isn't anything Glock does better.

[@leroyjenkins4811]

I always wanted a P99 but Walther doesn’t make them anymore. Out of all the guns I regret not buying, I regret that one the most. I can’t find a used one anywhere. The people that have ‘em aren’t giving them up. I doubt I’ll find one in good condition by now either. I couldn’t find a P99 so I bought a PPQ because everyone said it was so great. I absolutely hated that thing! I’m not very impressed with the PDP series either.

[@gOnz3r]

@@leroyjenkins4811 The P99, PPQ, and PDP all use the same general design, and not in some small way. Same with the Canik TP9 series, some of which are nearly a 1 to 1 copy of a P99. I don't know what differences you observed beyond small grip changes for the most part, but after you find yourself a P99, test them against one another. I'd tell you to do a blind test if we were not talking about guns, so instead I will just say to hold onto your objectivity.

[@gameragodzilla]

@@leroyjenkins4811 The unfortunate thing with the PPQ and PDP is they deleted the Anti-Stress trigger that made the P99 so unique. That being said, Walther does still make a limited run of P99s every year, so wait for a batch to drop and get that. Or just buy used off Gunbroker like I did, as they're still common enough to not be absurdly overpriced.

[@looseballs1966]

@@leroyjenkins4811 I'm kinda in the same place as you Leroy in that I drug my feet too long on getting a p99 then they all went away,,,,,but if you want a nearly identical type of gun look at the Canik TP9 DA,,,nearly identical to the Walther and a VERY well built and great shooting gun ( I love mine and in the burnt bronze finish looks prety cool too),,,,you might want to check out the new F series PDP also it's pretty darn awesome.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

That's the thing that always kept me from getting a Glock (besides not liking the feel in my hand). When I was able to buy a PPQ M2 Tact for roughly the same price as a comparable Glock why would I buy a one?
I know plenty of people that love their Glock but then most have spent nearly the same amount to upgrade it as they did for the gun itself.

[@mikemcmanus116]

Guilty multiple times

[@bradwhitt6768]

Most people buy the name not the gun. It's why so many buy glock. There are too many good guns out there that are better out of the box than glock these days.

[@theAudioCowboy]

I bought an IWI Masada 3 years ago and I constantly go back to that gun at the range. Love the way it shoots and feels in hand. Only complaint is I have trouble with the being able to hit the mag release with my thumb even with the smallest back strap on.

[@aliox1941]

I owned a Walther PPQ but sold it after I got my CZ P10c. The Walther is definitely snappier, more muzzle flip than the CZ. The CZ has almost as good a trigger (not quite) but the CZ trigger is light years better than a Glock! Have shot well over 1,000 rounds on my CZ with not one failure.
Comparing the Walther PDP 4" and the CZ P10c (which is 4"), the CZ has less muzzle flip. If you were to compare the Walther 4.5", it would be about the same muzzle flip as the CZ, but who wants a 4.5" for a carry gun?
Would still love to see the Outlaws comparison of his CZ Accushadow vs the CZ Shartdow 2 Orange (from the CZ factory custom shop).. Still waiting!

[@rusharley2080]

I do not like Glock. I can't understand why so many people are nuts about them when there are so many better pistols out of the box.

[@ethans8585]

Honestly think so many people are nuts about em cus so many people have been nuts about em for so long. The reliability is hyped up, the aftermarket parts thing, the glock fan club type culture. Walked into a gunstore one time asking about different brands and was interested in looking at 10mm. Each employee bombarded me with "everybody in here carries glock in 9mm, that's what you should get." They're no longer in business, dunno if there's any correlation or not. Haha

[@cadencramer2747]

They’re really only the best in terms of aftermarket options. They’re like the AR-15 platform of the pistol world with all the modifications you can do to them. That being said, my 26 was plagued with ejection issues for a couple months until I figured out that they had developed an updated ejector and that solved it. My M&P’s have been much more reliable for me, just with slightly less mod options.

[@GodspeedSuperbeast]

I had feed issues with Canik and Sig, lost $300 each time. I was intentionally weak handling but since I saw a with an officer that was shot in each arm that’s been a thing in my mind. My Glock 19 I can shoot one arm in my left hand weakly. Kinda like Glock

[@jimmyjameswu6474]

You the man Outlaw!!! You saved me 2,300 dollars by doing your review on the MDP. I’m forever grateful.

[@TurntoGod7]

My carry gun is the Walther PDP full size with 4” barrel and it’s an absolute beast. You are 100% accurate on your assessment. It’s a fantastic gun.
So accurate, so smooth, very controllable recoil. Love it.

[@jasestrong]

I have always liked your channel because you say what needs to be said instead of others where it’s all good.

[@cmillerh5]

Got a Walther PPQ M2 4", absolutely love it, but will be getting a PDP F at some point, also 4".

[@bradwhitt6768]

My PPQ is my EDC but I'm thinking about swapping it out for the Masada.

[@ssj4shinyslowbro877]

Hey man, everyone loves the gun they prefer. Kills me every time you dog the p320 series 🤣 Great honest video . Keep em coming 👌

[@najibdarwich3925]

I’ve got p320 M17 , it is more accurate than Glock n it feels natural in my hand too, over 1000 rds since I bought in 2019 n 0 malfunction, fed the gun 115, 124, 147 grain, different self defense ammunition with 0 failure to feed or eject

[@hez9028]

Agreed. The P320 series are fine pistols comparable to any on this list regardless of what UA-camrs say. I have several of the guns on this list but I also have three P320 with zero malfunctions over the last couple years.They are fun to shoot and good looking pistols. Not to mention modularity.

[@lawyerup1time785]

1 pdp agree with you … fits perfect and shoots lights out
2 mp 2.0 3.6 w Floyd’s custom mag well and apex trigger just wow
3 shadow systems mr920 Glock supercharged
4 hk vp9 the grip
5 Canik great value

[@TacticalConsiderations]

If you beat the optic off enough does it make the gun go

[@ElmCreekSmith]

You need a cigarette afterwards.