Startrail & Timelapse 2015 - Northern vs Southern Hemisphere
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2016
- Time-lapse and star trail video's compiled into a movie - each clip contains around 500 stills rendered using LightRoom and StarStax. The images were taken in summer on the Island of Guernsey UK for the Northern Hemisphere, and the Warrumbungle Ranges near Siding Springs Australia for the Southern Hemisphere.
finally a good star trail vid that isn't a tutorial and have no one talking for half an hour before showing the actual video.
I especially like the showing of the difference north and south of the ecliptic. Very cool!
Beautifully done jungynz, thanks for making the videos and sharing with us.
2:23 that’s Two rotations right there folks.
Two hemispheres side by side.
Hi there, I am assuming the star trails at the start were in the north and the star trails at 2:44 were in the south? Also at 2:20 what location was were they taken from and facing west or east?
Thanks
You can tell they were filmed in the south because of the crux constellation and because when it shows the star trails there is no star in the middle that seems like it's not moving.
He doesn't say, does he, what is what?
Fantastic, mesmerising footage! Thank you for sharing.
He even did the middle/between. Awesome...
Or maybe the middle is not the middle, who knows for sure?
Akumuvirus - I'd be interested to know whether he actually took the footage at the equator or edited his north/south videos together. That'd be cool to see footage from the equator looking to the north and another looking to the south.
@@CailisCritterCrib I'm in Texas and I can view the straight star trails from here
@@fotwen But while you're able to observe every night the Polaris (that points NORTH), you NEVER see the Southern Cross (that points South)! And someone in Australia NEVER sees the Polaris but every night he's able to look at the Southern Cross. That's because you still live on the Northern Hemisphere and an Aussie on the Southern one. This means, planet Earth has two celestial poles. This is possible ONLY on a GLOBE. On a flat Earth there would be only one celestial pole.
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd No, one said you couldn't. Some constellations are both visible in the Southern and in the Northern Hemisphere as well. What you'll NEVER see in Australia is the Northern Star (Polaris) that points North. Instead you'll be able to see the Southern Cross that points South. So, Earth has 2 celestial poles and flat Earth is a HOAX!!
please tell me how to make the effect of the bands in the video?
The old-fashioned way was to use low-sensitivity film, a small aperture and a *very* long exposure, like two hours.
The more modern way is to use whatever settings will get you a "still" photograph of the stars with maybe a 5 second exposure, take a picture every 30 seconds (or whatever) for those two hours and add them all together in GIMP or Photoshop using the "brighten only" mode.
It would be nice to know which views are from which location.
The Southern Hemisphere is from around 03:00, I know this because its what I can see from my house.
Beautiful and moving. To the idiots below who decry "cgi" - it's a straight time lapse of the sky in the nh and sh interspersed with star trails produced by stacking. This is mainstream astrophotography. Nothing is faked here. Go look at the night sky.
Heck, with a smart phone, you can do this yourself. Just set it someplace stable and walk away.
Is this cgi? this is the same Southern hemesphere. Except you can see the land relative to the sky. ua-cam.com/video/z2JzFKi3fcI/v-deo.html
I’ve never seen that in the night sky EVER in my 29 years.
Yeah I saw an interesting video showing the movies that won "best visual effects" in the 60s, and those award winning space movies looked very cheesy/fake by today's standards. Meanwhile, the 60s NASA footage looked amazing: because it's real.
@@LifesTreeofLife It's pretty slow of course. Also, you'd have to be near the poles for the full "spin" with a center- or else you'd just see the "sheet" of stars moving across the whole sky, such as near the equator.
Jungynx, what is the reason one version has a brighter end at each head of the star trails and the other version the trails look evenly lit?
HEY what is first rotation and what is 2 rotation?
1st Northern Hemisphere
2nd Southern Hemisphere.
@@kelduck8851 THE NORTHERN STARS ARE TRAVELLING ANTICLOCKWISE THE SOUTHERN CLOCKWISE proving the earth is stationary not flat but stationary
Beautiful... North, Middle, South moving stars... Thanks for sharing this video. (from Indonesia)
bacot
They only showed north and south. They put their filming locations at the end and they only had 2.
@@The_name105 There's an equatorial shot @ 2:08, not sure why they didn't site it.
@@stephenh5944yes the ones where the stars were orbiting the center if the disc we live on which he claimed were Australia and Greenland but were really shot from Hyperborea.
Thank God for Southern Hemisphere.
Podem enviar um link com imagem de Telescópio da Sigma Octantis ? Encontro da Polaris.
Can you indicate the time in the video for the southern hemisphere startrails?
***** .
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!! Lol wow dude!
***** .
Lol I think y missed my point. You're saying pay no attention to the video, but that's only going to make people more curious. If people are posting in the comments section, then they've already seen the video, and they can take it or leave it. You are just trying to tell people what to do, and when you do that, most people will just do the opposite of what you say.
***** .
Someone doing the opposite of what you say isn't an indication that they will notice how they can be fooled into believing something is real. But I think most people are probably already aware of the fact that they can be fooled.
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Nope! Don't want a cookie. I'm not taking a side on this matter, just sitting on the fense observing.
+Bright Starzz
I guess for you to say this video is fake you must be an expert in CGI and animation. So with all of your knowledge could you please point out to me in CGI and animation terms exactly what makes it fake?
Because personally I think you are fake !!
What is the star in the middle called
The bright star in the middle of the North Celestial Pole is called Polaris (Alpha Ursae Minoris if we're being technical)
The extremely dim star in the middle of the South Celestial Pole is called Sigma Octantis (it wasn't important enough to get a cool name)
If the stars go one way in the north and the other way in the south where in the middle do they just go straight by you with no rotation or just stop
Did you even watch the video? Look at 2:14
They appear to go around in circles parallel to the Earth's rotation, aka parallel to the Equator, from east to west. If you're looking due north that's anti-clockwise. It you're looking east it's up. If you're looking south it's clockwise. If you're looking west it's down. If you're lying on your back near the north pole, you're pretty much looking north, so anti-clockwise. If you're lying on your back near the south pole, you're pretty much looking south, so clockwise. if you're lying on your back near the equator, they seem to go from east to west, pretty much the same as the Sun.
@@Sableagle how come no one has ever been to the north Pole and the south pole
@@thehappyskeptic814 Hundreds of people have been in both places, where did you get that idea from?
jungynz you are true artist!!!! A lot of work. Truly appreciated. Wow
Jungynz - you also look one from the equator. We're was that? You can see the stars moving straight(in the middle) and curving on either sides.
Forgot to label which ones are south and which ones are north xD
It's easy to tell. In the North the sky rotates counter clockwise and in the South, clockwise.
Kevin Banjo Thanks
Southern Hemisphere also has the two Magellanic Clouds.
just look up and match the motions with your phone's screen.
The kookaburra calls should be a dead giveaway. :)
I appreciate a thousand times anyone who explains why we perceive only one movement in this video [earth - axis]? If the earth orbits the sun and the polaris does not, the polaris should make a significant line or curve in the frame. Respectively all other stars should not close the circle if there is more than one movement of the earth.
You can calculate. What's the radius of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun? If you know it, you can calculate the circunference and divide by 365 days. The result is the displacement of the Earth in 1 day. The other stars are too far away, so you cant see them moving fast. It's like when you are in your car on the road and a distant mountain seems to be always at the same place.
The solar system orbiting the center of the galaxy is even harder to perceive because all other stars are orbiting too and are too far away, as I said before.
Imagine you're in Al Qahma, on the Saudi Red Sea coast, leaning on a wall, facing the Hira Cave on Jabal an-Nur in Mecca.
Take a deep breath and let it out. Does the mountain move in your vision?
because it takes 365 days to go around our sun... and polaris is so far away that even that distance of travel around the sun does nothing to its observation, and given it and everything else in the night sky is moving around the galactic center we arent gonna see much change. Also Polaris wasnt always the Pole Star, and given enough time it will stop being the pole star and a new star will take its place (which happens to be Gamma Cephei). its all about scale, the same way mountains off in the distance will follow your car while everything else on the side of the road will wizz by as a blur.
Because it doesn’t. It’s flat. The end😉
@@charliebrown2679 Good joke idiot
So Wuts happenin at 2:20?the stars are goin in different directions??????
Angela White showing both north and south stars trails at the same time, most likely near the equator
Wait, ive got it. Someone measure exactly how many degrees it is between polaris and octantis. Is it exactly 180 or less than that?!!!! Is it around 90?
Where are all the flat earthers now
We're here to the very end
madness just don't go away like that..... Sadly.
Beautifully made video.
Does the north spin clockwise or counterclockwise?
North: counter. South: clock.
Wonderful. Clearly a lot of work, it was worth it!
Man if stars started to trail like that off camera id be terrified lol
i fink da edibles kickin in
So beautiful!!!
Why are those trails circular? Shouldn’t they be oval? Also the ones on the edge seem to be coming up from the horizon. Doesn’t look like “perspective” to me. Hey, maybe the sun does set after all.
Why would they be oval?
@@JohnHazenhousen Well, they'd be oval if they were on a ceiling a few thousand miles up. Unless you were directly underneath them, you'd be looking up at them at an angle. The fact that they are not oval suggests that they aren't on a ceiling, but in space.
Hello i would contact you to use parts of yout video to make a video on mu channel :-) thank you !
Really good video. Hints at why early people conceived of the '360 degree' circle after noting the repeated patterns in sky as viewed from the ground.
Can you explain that a bit better, the wording didn't quite make sense to me...
@@Mor2gain_760Ancients figured the stars went in a circle (360°) because they saw them going in a circle (360°).
I don't mean anything against you but the person who wrote the comment you replied to. It really is that simple.
Stars go in circle.
See that stars go in circle.
Say that stars go in circle.
crazy idea. but as i was looking at this, i was thinking that that's also how a vynil disc looks like. wouldn't it be something if we could listen to the music of the stars?
So is there two different polestars?
No higher resolution?
Impossible for these rotations if the earth was flat
True... although nobody is allowed on Antarctica... how the f did this person make a timelapse as if it was all rotating around a single point like polaris... and when he does that there are trees in front of it? Is this what it looks like in Australia or Argentina then?
@@ieder1een175 you don't have to be in Antarctica to see the south pole. you can simple be on a boat facing the "ice wall". if you are on the "east" side of the flat earth you would see the south pole on top of the "ice wall" rotating to the right. If you go on the west side, you would still see it on top of the "ice wall" rotating in the same direction... but you are facing in the complete opposite direction having a flat earth point of view... so they would appear to rotate in opposite directions if you are looking at things from above the dome, which is impossible with any kind of projections.
Basically you can have an infinite amount of locations along the "ice wall" and have an infinite amount of locations for the south pole on top of the "ice wall" around which the stars are rotating. So basically it's check mate FE.
false, this actually proves it's flat.
if the Earth is moving thousands of kilometres per second through the universe as you guys claim this means we should be seeing new stars everyday and not the same ones
@@abcdefxyz1239 you only see stars in the local cluster which are pretty close, and they move together in the same direction just like a stream in a river. They do tend to move slowly apart, but you need thousands of years to see a difference.
Wow. To Even Have The Right Equipment And Travel, And Obtain Great Footage. Is Awesome Its Self.
Can I use this video in a tiktok?
Brilliant stuff!
Respectfully, the earth can't be flat because of this. the only way to make a southern sky like this would be to double reflect a set of stars above the northern sky or below the "southern" edge. even then, however, in order to make that double reflection available in 360°(visible in the south from everywhere) that proposed reflector would have to be a bowl-possibly your sky dome- making it impossible for that star to ever be a single point in the sky. on a flat earth, polaris' "southern" counterpart would be a line spanning the entire southern sky from east to west, no matter where you look.
Alex Bartha this actually pro as a flat earth lol and the we are not spinning but the stars are..
Leon Mccrae
how? Do you really not see the problem that Alex descripted?
The axis of rotation is dependent on your distance to the equator! Now tell, where do you expect such a thing? On a flat disk or a sphere?
Seriously it's not that hard to understand...
Jake K. If you understand how a perspective warp work because of how massive the sky is then it's very easy to understand..
Leon Mccrae
What exactly is a "perspective warp" supposed to be? Yes perspective distortes images. So what?
This in fact is the very effect that fucks up the whole movement of the night sky on a flat earth.
I'll now use the model you people always use: The flat earth as being round, having the north pole at the middle and this sky dome above.
The sky rotates anti clockwise at the north pole in 24h.
Now can you show me any angle and perspective when looking up to it, that turns this anticockwise rotation into a clockwise rotation? If you look at a moving carousel or something like that, do you really think there is any angle at which it appears to turn in the other direction? This is completely bonkers and only flat earthers use the word "perspective warp".
As if the usage of this word and the constant "you just need to understand it" without actually attempting to explain it, somehow lets all the paradoxes suddenly disappear.
For such an effect you'd need some very wierd light bending inside the atmosphere *that clearly does not happen within it*.
Also: We do see *two distinctly DIFFERENT sky hemispheres*
When you stand under a huge dome, where could you ever see TWO hemispheres? Deal with it: The night sky is closed and 360 degree in all directions.
It's not just one dome.
Next problem :
If you stand somewhere but at the north pole, parts of the rotating dome that are closer to you rush by faster than those which are farther away from you.
This effect gets stronger the farther south you go.
But what do we observe? We observe a night sky that rotates smoothly and equally fast in all directions.
Leon Mccrae
TLDR:
Using he notorious flat earth model perspective in fact fucks everything up.
1. Perspective doesn't turn an anticlockwise direction into a clockwise one.
2.The night sky rotates with the same angular velocity in all direction.
The dome would not appear that way, unless your where to stand at the north pole
Those are the problems.
Now what exactly is this perspective warp and how does it solve all of that?
Truth!
Love it!
thanks for putting this up!
Amazing work
The part where the stars are going straight is the equator I’m guessing
Correct
So why are they not moving much faster considering the earth spins much faster there.?
@@daviddorset307 What do you mean by “Earth spins faster”?!
Earth spins at the same speed everywhere, 1 full rotation in 23 hr 56 min 4 sec.
The ground on Equator moves fastest, but that’s because Earth is biggest at Equator.
But all celestial objects, no matter from where they are observed, move at the same angular speed, 15 degrees per hour.
@daviddorset307 they travel across the entire sky in one night, compared to the stars near the celestial poles which show virtually no movement... just as would be expected when observing from a rotating sphere. No contradictions here.
You mean to tell me the Earth is not resting on top of elephants and a giant tortoise? Damn, this just ruined my day. Thanks a lot...
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misterrh
Maybe we are just one of The Great Attuin's turds.
@[The] White Rabbit its in the Bible
this should not have been so funny you cant do this
Can I use this video in a video debunking the flat earth and proving Eric Dubay a shill?
Ladyboi needs money, leave him alone! :)
Eli S. Ramirez me asking if I could use someone’s content shows how desperate I am? I don’t think you know what the word desperate means. Also it does prove the shape of the earth, because a flat earth cannot have two poles, and this video clearly shows that the earth has two poles; a South Pole and a North Pole. However since you don’t know what desperate means I wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t know what a pole means either
Eli S. Ramirez ua-cam.com/video/94hgPY7K5Vs/v-deo.html here is a video that explains it for you, and shows how Eric straight up lied about the southern star trails
Eli S. Ramirez i made one video about him a few years ago, and you claim I’m trying sO hArD to debunk him. Please, you are clearly not a very sensible person... probably why you believe the earth is flat
Eli S. Ramirez oh, and you’re an idiot for not realizing how these star trails do in fact show the shape of the earth. Even Eric Dubay’s model has to try to make it appear like the southern star trails don’t exist... because he knows how damaging they are to his and any other flat earth model
link about of sigma octantis.. ???????
Great Video 👍🏾
my god, it's full of stars!
I got that reference! 🙂
And the Earth is flat
look at rhe polar star
Excelente video
Obrigado
Parabens
Thanks for Brasil
Mou Marques você entendeu que isso prova que a Terra é um Globo ?
@[The] White Rabbit how it proof the Earth is not moving ?
How do you explain the phases of Venus ?
That was totally awesome
North e o sul??
Here’s the thing, if we were on a supersonic spinning ball, the only way to make perfect circular star trails would be from the poles. You can’t make perfect circular star trails from the side of a supersonic spinning ball. If you had any type of logical thought, you’d be able to realize that. The fact that you can point a camera to the North or South from anywhere, and make perfect circular star trails proves it’s the stars that are moving, not the earth.
Besides, the stars never change, and Earth’s movement has never been detected by any experiment. All experiments prove earth to be rock solid
Horseshit!
I'll be nice. I'll link to some videos showing what horseshit you talk.
ua-cam.com/video/_terqjEMuMU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/yzG4KUSv-gs/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/cvkkKAFJXwQ/v-deo.html
Bingo. What is not being considered is the omnidirectional spinning that should be taking place, but is not occurring. We eithet only see the spin of earth (if a globe), or we see a mostly locked position of stars rotating around us with little to no independent movement of their own.
so, the anti clockwise rotation is northern hemisphere and clockwise is southern hemisphere, is that correct ?
just like water going down a drain :p
Bring your arms out to your sides, make your hands fists, and rotate them in " over " position in circles in the same direction. Look to your left arm and you'll see it going Counter/Anti Clockwise. Look to your right arm and you'll see it going Clockwise.
Notice though they're going in the same direction. You're just flipping your Point of View ( PoV ) 180*.
Yes the Anti-Clockwise motion is the Northern Hemisphere. Right from the getgo of this video @ 0:10 you can see the Andromeda Galaxy on the very right side in the middle area. Notice the thing that looks like a bright star with 2 fuzzy tails on the right and left side of it. That's actually the Andromeda Galaxy and the " starry " middle is the bright galactic bulge center.
The Andromeda Galaxy is difficult to see in the Southern Hemisphere because its' declination is +41*North which means it can only be seen skimming the horizon in New Zealand in the Winter months ( I mean Southern Hemisphere Winter not Northern Hemisphere Winter :P ).
The 2 patches of " clouds " @ 2:43 are the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds, which are Milky Way satellite galaxies. They cannot be seen in most of the Northern Hemisphere as they're very close to the Southern Celestial Pole.
the backwards rotation is only from the observer's point of perspective on the ground if you go to the southern hemisphere the Stars travel from east to west just like everything else this guy is completely manipulated this to fool people you can tell by the placement of the Milky Way the Milky Way sets right next to Polar is what he did was flipped the orientation 180 degrees and made it out to be the southern hemisphere that's why there's edits that cut the scenes... you can see where the line start to straighten out well if he would have kept going you would see nothing but Stars traveling horizontally along the horizon he intentionally did this to manipulate this
Ryan wyrick But there's two different points of rotation... The southern hemisphere set of stars seem to rotate the opposite direction is because the observer is flipped on their y axis. which would cause by being on the other side of a globe, or roundish earth. Even the auroras create two circles around the celestial poles. not possible on a flat earth.
Ryan Wyrick That is completely wrong. The Milky Way, Large Magellanic Clouds and Small Magellanic Clouds are exactly where they're suppose to be. That's not even the galactic center. It's the " right " side of the Milky Way. The camera goes into star trail mode before the galactic center even rises.
As I already said, you cannot even see the Large and Small Magellanic clouds from the Northern Hemisphere and the galactic center is only visible low to the Southern horizon in the Northern Hemisphere during the Summer months.
You will NEVER see the Milky Way galaxy pass all the way overhead in the Northern Hemisphere.
"Sark" has no light polution. NZ is also great for near zero light polution. Great Vid mate. Cheers.
Thank you for a wonderful presentation. May YUH [God] bless [Baruch] you, your family, and your ministry. And give you much Shalom [Peace].
How to debunk the Flat Earth dogma, in one easy lesson !
30 FE cavemen can't time-lapse.
these cave men followed science, and science showed them that the earth is flat, i guess where you live or how you look doesn't really matter does it
@@penzalo4119 These cavemen followed science? Tell that a scientist.
Video show only one movement earth - axis. Where is movement earth orbit sun? Where is movement solar system universe?
The arcs seen are about the same as the arc between two markings on a clock face. As a clock's hour hand goes round twice per day and the Earth only once, that's about two hours of rotation. In two hours, the Earth rotates 30.0821° and goes 0.0794411° (December) to 0.0849458° (June) around the Sun and the solar system goes 0.0000000003571186° around the galaxy. Your frame of reference for the Earth's rotation is *all* the stars. Your frame of reference for the Earth's orbit around the Sun is the *nearest* relative to the *furthest* visible stars. Your frame of reference for the galaxy's rotation is the stars relative to other galaxies in the background. Which do you expect to be able to see?
So beautiful
Why is no one talking about the converging stars?
Where?
Cool I've seen Warrumbungle range observatory. I'm stuck on flat earth startrail proof. Heading south to get my own footage soon. Lovely footage thank you :)
Got my own footage. If it is a spherical earth it is not the earth that they say it is. The stars appear to be affected by perspective at strange latitudes. I went to south Australia and the stars acted as if I were on an equator of a spherical planet.. If it is a sphere, the equator of that sphere is way further south then we are told. pear shaped? lol. I'm finally starting to understand why that might be thrown around..
how did it go ?
OGW wow. the lies are really incredible. perspectives? lol
So when is PGW going to show his pictures, as an inhabitant of the Southern Hemisphere, I am looking forward to his pics and answer.
"strange latitudes" Ha what an arsehole.
Kel Duck to the average FE supporter the southern 'hemi-plane' is just a fantasy land that does not exist.
If the star seen at 0:50 is Polaris, what would the star seen at 3:10 be?
The star around which all the others are revolving clockwise is Sigma Octantis, which is the southern celestial pole.
I think it's sigma octopuntis or some BS like that
@@pyrefly7575 ?
i wonder what the really bright star at 2:25 was
that was a lovely video. I just been getting into UA-cam even though it's been around for awhile. I have been shocked about some of the stuff that people upload. I didn't even know there was a theory that the globe was flat. and it just cracks me up that there are people out there that are trying to prove that the Earth is flat using technology that is based on the model that the Earth is a globe. flat earthers are hypocrites.
loverules u see that star in the middle that’s Polaris it’s the North Star it don’t move all the other ones spin around it, on a globe it shouldn’t be seen from Australia but homeboy clearly caches it in the vid so what does that mean ??? 🚫🌎🚫 it means the heliocentric model is bull shit
@@23dannyt Show a better model that still has the stars rotating as shown in this video than the globe. If you cannot then the Globe model is still the only one we have ever found that fits the observations. If you can come up with another shape that fits all the questions one can ask about the observable phenomenon then you will win a Nobel prize and be one of the most famous people ever. Do you not think scientists and great thinkers have not already tried alternative shapes than an oblate spheroid? They have tried every conceivable shape and none of them except a globe shows the same behaviour and phenomenon.
So you honestly believe that earth is the only, out of millions of planets, is the only flat planet??? When all other planets are round.... Wow... Special kind of stupid, aye?
Who said the Moon was not round? Why would it need to be flat if GOD did not put LIFE on it????
Kind of stupid to believe working complex designs and LIFE comes from a pure nothingness stupidity.
@@KixenDK dear the truth hidden. is on the holy Quran ,when Allah described all the universe..www.islam-guide.com/bqs/17astronomy.htm
Flermin need to stop *conflating shape with motion (or lack thereof!).* While long exposure star trail timelapses don't necessarily demonstrate that earth 🌎 is in motion, *sidereal time* most certainly does. Whereas this precise video as well as the geometry of the enveloping equidistant celestial sphere *proves earth is spherical.* Hear me out... The ascension angle of both celestial poles above and below the horizon will always be identical, and perfectly correspond with the observer's latitude in degrees.
For instance at my latitude here in New Zealand at the *40th south parallel,* the SCP resides *40° above the horizon and Polaris is buried 40° beneath the horizon* in the opposite direction to the north.
There are *180 degrees between the poles* of any sphere by geometric necessity, and therefore *180 lines of latitude.* The distance between the poles of earth is 20,001.6 kilometers. 20,001.6 km / 180° = 111.12 km.
One degree of declination on the celestial sphere corresponds to one parallel line of latitude, which are 111.12 kilometers apart. *So one degree = 111.12 kilometers.* Therefore, I'd have to travel 111.12 km x 40° = 4,444.8 kilometers north to reach the equator and render Polaris just visible on the horizon, 0° in altitude.
To reconcile this pivot point on their model, flat earthers must vehemently deny and reject the existence of the SCP, with some citing that it's just a "void in the sky." For one, if the North Celestial Pole wasn't marked by it's close proximity to a bright star, would that in any way negate the existence of the geometric pivot point itself, let alone it's enduring position relative to nearby stars and circumpolar constellations? Nah bro 😂
This denial of the SCP is a knee-jerk reaction stemming from necessity I like to call the #PolarisNotReal fallacy, and is facilitated by their geographic privilege. Flermin can't see the SCP because of earth's rotundity... How convenient ;)
Meaning that by the same logic, I could just as easily validate the *south-orientated Azimuthal equidistant projection* placing Antarctica in the center because a fixed immovable SCP is what I observe, thereby lumping the burden of proof onto flermin as to the position of Polaris and the big dipper around the North Arctic ice wall... *And it would be equally valid.*
While I'll concede that at first glance, the SCP appears a relatively dim region of sky, a closer inspection with long exposure and the lack of light pollution will reveal that it's far from empty, *and is in fact full of light.*
If earth were flat, we here in the southern hemisphere would be the first to know and concede. Yet there are no flat earthers here, at least none that can't be set straight with a simple, rudimentary understanding of celestial mechanics and spherical astronomy. Go figure! *This speaks volumes.*
So to to all you flermin out there trying to dictate to me what I can and can't observe day in and day out all year round... Shut up. Piss off. And when you get there, PISS OFF again 😂😆
xD there is no "poles" gfu globecuck
What a load of nonsense, so you believe satellites move 450,000mph with us haha
@@purebloodwithcommonsense3805 So you can't even stick to one number?
@@javierlatorre480 seeing as it's all made up numpty, and you haven't provided evidence of hot air balloons travelling 459,000mph
@@javierlatorre480 la tierra es muy plana, hoy y manana, no hay curvutura
If you get a laser pointer, point it at a ball, then spin the ball, does the laser pointer make a circle pattern on the ball or a line along the latitude?
Yes
where da southern cross at??
*+Timothy Petrochilos* Oh it's certainly there. The four bright stars and a dimmer fifth star rising from behind the big tree at the bottom left of screen at precisely 4:43 occupying the bright *Milky Way band.* It rises and begins to arc to the right- rotating *clockwise.* Before the *long exposure* timelapse sets in, you can use it (and the southern pointers beneath it) to *accurately predict* exactly where the south celestial pole will be i.e. the *pivot point* in the center where the smaller circumpolar circles converge by dissecting *two lines;* onethrough the cross and the other perpendicular to the pointers (this method is very well documented, look it up). Where those 2 lines meet & conjugate, that's the *SCP.*
_Cardinal south can then be inferred as it is the point on the horizon directly beneath it :) _
dragon fly oh i see it now. thanks
Amazing view of the celestial sphere.
Geocentrism yes flat not at all.
The celestial sphere HAHAHAH
@@nebula6362 it is clearly a sphere, that is why we have north celestial pole and south celestial pole, stars surrounding each one of them, what is so funny?
@@angelgaviria6697 Because OP believes earth is flat but knows about the celestial sphere.
58 flatearthers disliked the video!
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EARTH OR THE SKY?
@@ElHerejeDelRock how do you apply this to a FE model? when do the stars suddenly start rotating opposite directions?
@Dr. Bas Ackwards whats the name of the video where you can see them moving 2 opposite directions?
Read all of Ezekiel chapter one it is a chapter about the wheels of beasts likened unto the wheels of the firmament the bible and the biblical cosmology is validated by this video.
Ezekiel 1:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
The word firmament appears 4 times in this chapter
Ezekiel 1:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.
Please be very careful when dismissing the bible and the creator God that authored it, as people who do this never factor in that the devil is the god of this fallen world and that he is way smarter and more cunning than people ever care to know, When you ignore, dismiss, blaspheme the Creator God, Satan is given a legal right to access you to blind you and give you confidence in your opinion you then think you have a handle on reality but you don't, you have simply been deceived by the false light of Lucifer. if you don't repent and turn and face God and have your blindness lifted and have your sins paid for by Jesus Christ perfect life death and resurrection you will only realise that the wool has been pulled over your eyes when you land in Hell then you will quickly sober up to reality of this horrific fallen world and that Adam and Eve unleased the most unimaginable horror by thinking it was a ever a good idea to cut out the Holy Creator God.
Remember the Devil is a weasel and cannot create anything Hell was created by God for the Devil and his angels and all the foolish humans that blindly follow him. The Devil can only reverse what God says and cover the truth in rings and rings of lies and half truths. I hope and pray that you really consider getting right with God as nothing you do in this fallen world has any value or meaning unless you get right with your Creator God. Take care God Bless
2 Corinthians 4:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Proverbs 14:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
Proverbs 9:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
@@kelvinmartin9545 don't shit here. keep your religious bs away
If the Earth were flat, the stars in the southern hemisphere would always move in a line parallel to the ground, and you would see them circling the entire surface until they came back to the same point. I live in Brazil and I've already filmed something similar to the one in the video, and it's a fact that Crux (Cruzeiro do Sul) revolves around the same point throughout the night. Again, if the Earth were not a sphere revolving around itself, Crux would never be visible to a fixed camera during a whole night, as it would move parallel to the horizon and make a turn behind the camera.
if the Earth were flat, you wouldn't see stars at all.
Is that the Milkyway at 3:00?
Yes. And the two things on the right are small and large Magellanic clouds.
Check out Star Trails exactly at the equator. You'll be stunned.
Something is always seen in these timelapses: satellites darting through the sky, leaving straight trails between the circles of stars...so they are also a proof satellites do exist.
Satellites don’t glow the last time I checked!
@MI6
You can't see something as small as a satellite 400km away.
@MI6
Or the fake station.
@MI6
The Fake station was debunked years ago,get with the times!
sepertinya kebanyakannya itu adalah meteor,
susah bedain satelit n meteor..
sepertinya sih kalau cahayanya mengecil lalu menghilang, berarti itu meteor.. kalau cahayanya tetap, berarti satelit..
contoh nya di menit 1:14-1:15 , kmungkinan besar itu satelit lewat..
Thank you ❤❤❤
Awesome. 👍🏻
flat earthers mad
if you can see the same sky from both hemispheres the earth clearly isnt a sphere idiot
All flat heads that watch the sky live in Northern Hemisphere. Flat heads here in the south are afraid of watching the sky, and I REALLY know all the reasons why.
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Flattard conference in australia support that, only 3 showed up a journalist was one of them lol.
@@elonesnah Hahaha. Nice. It is more proof that flattards have no intention of looking at evidence that will disprove their hypothesis. They just want their fantasy Flat Earth to exist no matter what.
Shows a spin. Discs show the same sky view and shadow manifestation from any position on them, but sphere's do not.
@@VestigialHead The earth is flat. nasa in hebrew means "to deceive". if the earth is 93.697 miles far away from the sun and rotating around it while rotation every 24 hours around it self why does polaris and sigma octantis stars never move ?
@@andrewcameron6611 Mate I am not going to rise to your idiotic troll bait. You know very well that all of that is just nonsense.
I see. Would that not mean that in the southern hemisphere the Sun is rising in the West and setting in the East?
Also wouldn't the clock go anti clockwise?
What happens on the equator? If I stand on it and look north the stars move counterclockwise and if I look south clockwise? Asking for a friend
To answer your questions:
- no it wouldn't, you're just facing the other way.
- no it wouldn't, clocks don't magically mirror when you cross the equator
- yes that is what you would see
Gotta love the sounds of the Australian bush
Can you please re-title the video to "FLAT EARTH DEBUNKED in 5 minutes"? Thanks xD
Jep! 👍👍👍👍👍
Jeb! and jv, YES.... only trouble is, most flatties aren't intelligent enough to comprehend what's going on here.
How so debunked in 5mnutes??? Where's the evidence star trails of this nature cannot be observed on a flat earth?? On the same token, where is the evidence the earth is a globe?? Observations such as the above do not prove the earth is a globe!
To think the earth is a globe based on observations presented in the above video is ridiculous! What a joke! And then we have to ASSUME the information presented in the video is accurate and true!
Unless the "dome" has two or more sections, you ain't gonna get diverging rotations..
and, for just the latest FE decimation, see Shawn Hufford's latest FE decimation ua-cam.com/video/x-uS0B1lLnw/v-deo.html
Roger until you have proven that the star trails (if true and rotate in said directions), cannot work on a flat earth then the info in the above video and within the linked video in your comment is only conjecture!
How you going to achieve that? Ask Brian Cox for some evidence? It's rubbish!
FLAT EARTH
Where though
Nice, to record it and play it back, see it with your own eyes. Hopefully i will get an opportunity in the South Island nz to capture star trails.
Where IS the south time laps
How is it possible for the stars to revolve around our head horizontally and the moon and sun spin and set vertically ?
Because the axis of rotation of the earth points in that direction
James Boudreaux the sun appears to spiral up and down the ecliptic in a year.....you moon does this circuit in roughly 28 days....the stars spin around a fixed earth never deviating north or south..they travel in a fixed path in the sky ..measure a star and you'll find it takes 23hrs56mins to return to its position in the sky. the moon takes about 24hrs50mins to cross a north south line in the sky...forgot what the sun is.
James Boudreaux
the bodies actually rise diagonally from mid latitudes.
only vertically from the tropics and horizontally from the arctics.
The Sun and Moon appear to move along vertical paths only from the Equator.
Mid-latitudes see diagonal motion of stars near the celestial equator.
Polaris is only overhead from the North Pole.
Great! Flat earth debunked in one video. I wish some commenters would stop saying Christians are flat earthers though. I’m Christian & I love science & space research. I’m sick of flatards infesting every space video comments section. I know the earth is a spinning ball by observation & common sense, as do all my scientifically interested friends at church. There’s no justification for equating all Christians with flat or dome earthers.
correction your a christian who love scientists and science fiction, if you really love science (true science that is self evident) you would simply become a flat earther, also point me where god said the earth is a globe in the bible please
Dark ages people, in a wrong era.
Frank Hern from the beginning of humanity, up until 50 years ago, everyone believed that the earth is flat, it wasn't until space agencies faked space travels when re- sorry people started believing the earth to be a ball sack flying in vecuum, here is a challange for you lad, if you could prove to me that the earth is moving in space, then i'll become a globe earther
@@penzalo4119 Can you show me what your bibble has to say about Madagascar, Vietnam, Svalbard, Greenland, Yellowstone, New Zealand, the isthmus of Panama, Volcán Cayambe, Tierra del Fuego, bacteriophages, Creuzfeld-Jakob Disease, cirrostratus cloud formation, lamellar airflows, aluminium, radioactive decay, atomic emission spectra, electromagnets, optical density, the duck-billed platypus, the mid-Atlantic rift, Hawaii, kangaroos, ocelots, laminated glass, bakelite, Eratosthenes, Finland, magnesium and Jennifer Connelly?
@@penzalo4119 flat earth deny science..
Anyone that thinks earth is flat needs to watch this
Muy hermoso video de las estrellas desde el polo norte al polo sur
It's convenient for flat earthers to call things like this CGI, because they don't want to believe. Just go do this "experiment" your self. See how wrong you are.
YoMamaJiggle if you can't verify. Then you trust those who can. Not one person. But when scientific consensus is overwhelmingly in favor you do. Especially when there isn't a single real scientist who believes in a flat Earth. Not that I've ever heard. Uncle Mike in the back yard who says so because it doesn't make sense to him isn't a real source. Science isn't perfect. But it tries it's best. And makes changes to better our understanding not worsen them. And what would a flat Earth do for us? This argument comes down to religion. If the Bible is true then the earth is flat. It's emotionally driven. Not reality driven.
All that can't be explained by them, they call CGI, fraud, illusion, fake, frenzy
"I don't know how to explain it in a flat earth, better call it fake"
Can you please, show me ONE proof that rockets cant work in a vacuum. Any one who has ever actually done this, the evidence shows rockets work BETTER in a vacuum. So... some evidence would be nice.
@@jordanharrison8769
Do have any links to the vacuum & rocket 🚀 working better ??? I've only seen fans don't work in a vacuum...
@@Mor2gain_760 simple logic. If rockets work in a vacuum at all, then it stands to reason that reduced gravity and no air resistance would mean the rocket has less to overcome, aka no air resistance or friction.
I think it’s possible that the earth is a sphere, with high mountains and low valleys and a lot of water staying in those valleys.
I also think it's possible the earth rotates around the sun, but at 66,600 mph? I don't believe that, and the moon rotates around the earth? how fast is the moon moving? And why isn't the moon spinning?
What I can't believe is the earth, while rotating around the sun, also is spinning on invisible magnetic energy fields, from west to east, at 1,000 mph, at the equator, and o at the north and south poles, and, our collective solar system; sun, and planets and moons, are flying through infinite space at 550,000 mph, and our galaxy is moving through space at 2,237,000 mph.
How can we view stars millions of miles away stuck in our night sky for centuries?
Do all stars fly through space along side with our solar system and galaxy?
And are we as a collective solar system, and galaxy, traveling north, south, east, or west?
Set aside the flat earth debate, explain the Earth's west to east spin at over 1,000 mph at equator and 0 mph at the poles and 700 mph at the Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn, at 23 degrees, and how the atmosphere moves with the Earth.
How is the atmosphere, which is a gas, and the Earth which is a solid, and the water, which is a liquid, all moving at the same speed as one body?
And if the atmosphere is a gas, how is it different from other gases like wind from hurricanes or simple directional breezes?
You answered your own question but I don’t think you want to accept it, flat earth is the answer
@@Sealedservant sometimes the answer is hidden within the question, and there is always more to learn and innerstand. we humans are limited in our ability to know the depths of our spiritual reality and our material reality, the complete knowing of our reality is never going to be realized while we are in our mortal perishable human bodies, we will know all things when we receive our eternal resurrected bodies. the spiritual world is not only all around us, it is existing and overlapping our material world, and the spiritual entities good and evil, are able to manifest themselves in our world, but we cannot fully manifest ourselves in their world. summary; time, space and everything within it, is unknowable. so forget the debate of round earth vs. flat earth, and consider other possibilities. talk to Jesus often and His Holy Spirit will teach you all you need to know. Peace and Maranatha.
@@ExtremePacifist everything you mentioned makes more sense on a flat earth. space does not exist, at least not how we’re told
@@Sealedservant go deeper... think "matrix" as in not comprehensible to our limited ability to grasp complete reality. the more you wonder and consider all possibilities, the more your mind can expand. try to break free of choosing the first two choices they have presented to you, and then your awareness increases. let's try a few other possibilities and see where that takes us.
@@ExtremePacifist my mind has already been expanded 100% that my third eye is opened
black hole closer than we thought?
Does the southern stars go around North star aswel or another star ? Please answer I'm very confused 🤍🙏🏼
No, they go around south celestial pole, which is close to the star Polaris Australis.
The celestial poles are not connected to any star, but the sky is dense enough that you can usually find a star sitting very close to the celestial poles. Polaris sits very close to the north celestial pole, and it's notable because it's the brightest star in the area. Near the south celestial pole, the closest star (Sigma Octantis) is much dimmer.
waiting for the flat earthers to change ALL of their theories AGAIN to try to jam ANOTHER convoluted explanation how EVEN MORE PROOF that the earth is round is somehow proof of flat earth due to another asinine explanation that ignores physics, common sense, and basic reality.
Why wait? Just sort by Newest and scroll
AWSOME video!!! I was always curious what the people in other parts of our flat earth see in the night sky, I wish you would have done a US version. I was trying to see what Russia saw and this video came up, it explains a lot perfectly! Thank you for your work! It was beautiful!
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Earth is not flat
This is sarcasm isnt it
Guys answer me. If the earth rotate from West to East there is something wrong with stars angle. Why?
How so?
There is nothing wrong with "stars angle", you just need to learn a lot more than you already think you know.
People were observing the stars for millenniums, and found no problem, so if you did found something that "doesn't add up", that's lack of your understanding, not lack of an actual explanation.
Very cool!
our beautiful flat and motionless realm, thank you ❤️
Nope, nowhere close to flat
I'd love you to explain why we see stars rotate in opposite directions above and below the Equator.
This is the south pole😒
@@alexf962 I'd love for you to explain how satellites travel 500,000 with us and the sun
@@purebloodwithcommonsense3805 Your question is ridiculous. 50000 what? You can't even add a unit of measure? No wonder you fall for scams
And people still think the earth is flat.
Funny how the southern stars goes strait, beautiful clip
What video were you watching?
That was the stars as viewed from between the Tropics.
Around which star does the southern sky rotate?
Sigma Octantis also called Polaris Australis
It rotates around a point in the sky called the south celestial pole, Sigma Octantis is just really close to said pole.
Similar deal with Polaris and the north celestial pole; Polaris is actually still getting closer to it
South celestial pole