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  • Because Joe Quesada demanded it! An aging orphan receives his fondest wish and is adopted by the wealthiest man in town...who also happens to be the costumed adventurer known as Hawk-Owl, the Midnight Avenger, Chicago's crime-fighting scourge! If you ever wondered about the relationships between super heroes and their sidekicks, this action-packed yet hilarious adventure answers all the questions you were afraid to ask! Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #comicpop
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 259

  • @comicpop
    @comicpop  6 місяців тому +41

    Buy Ultimate Adventures on Kindle before they take it down! amzn.to/3VD6gRZ

  • @casteanpreswyn7528
    @casteanpreswyn7528 6 місяців тому +388

    I love that Sal is the clear villain of this episode. It was completely unnecessary for this episode to exist, but he just wanted to torture two innocent people.

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 6 місяців тому +26

      Very true. At least we choose to go through the torture.

    • @andrewfoerster6864
      @andrewfoerster6864 6 місяців тому +27

      Welcome to back issues son. Where the more ridiculous the book, the better the episode.

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 6 місяців тому +8

      @@andrewfoerster6864 what made you think I'm new here? Lol

    • @feliperisseto9113
      @feliperisseto9113 6 місяців тому +12

      Sal is the villain of most episodes.

    • @angelusb2066
      @angelusb2066 6 місяців тому +1

      @@casteanpreswyn7528it’s a joke

  • @OwenLikesComics
    @OwenLikesComics 6 місяців тому +130

    I can't lie, I really want that poster...

    • @criticofcritics9583
      @criticofcritics9583 6 місяців тому +4

      No, you really don’t. Especially once you know this whole book was made out of ego.

    • @notbrandon8840
      @notbrandon8840 6 місяців тому +7

      Good news! You can have it! You just have to pry it out of Sal's cold, dead hands

  • @TechnicolorGhosts
    @TechnicolorGhosts 6 місяців тому +232

    Now all we need is a Captain Marvel episode to complete the U-Decide trilogy.

    • @AlriikRidesAgain
      @AlriikRidesAgain 6 місяців тому +41

      I cannot wait for the dramatic conclusion: From the madness of Mar-Ville, to the laziness of Ultimate Adventures, to... a cohesive comic book by Peter David.

    • @lexofpower2822
      @lexofpower2822 6 місяців тому +4

      @@AlriikRidesAgainyes!!!! I want that!

    • @Sledhead
      @Sledhead 2 місяці тому

      I would love that, I was a huge Captain Marvel back then and still am. I've got the first couple issues of marville and ultimate adventures

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 6 місяців тому +170

    In local news, an orphan boy and three guys on a couch who thought they lost all hope loses last bit of hope they didn't think they had.
    Marvel U-Decide: The gift that keeps on taking

  • @Chance1106
    @Chance1106 6 місяців тому +173

    Two things I love about back issues. Sal giving us behind the scenes stories of books like this and Sal’s quick edits, zooming in and out when something ridiculous happens.

  • @IamMedellinInc
    @IamMedellinInc 6 місяців тому +213

    Ethan looks like a detective, who let a case get the best of him

    • @WhatIsItAboutThem
      @WhatIsItAboutThem 6 місяців тому +31

      In a good way! I like Gruff Ethan

    • @OseEigbobo
      @OseEigbobo 6 місяців тому +6

      Oh my God. What a roast

    • @rosshall6475
      @rosshall6475 6 місяців тому +4

      Detective Inspector Alec Hardy sitting on the couch

    • @Peecamarke
      @Peecamarke 6 місяців тому +4

      Really makes him look older and more grizzled. Amazing how just a “little” facial hair can make such a big difference 😒

    • @taylorscrews2284
      @taylorscrews2284 6 місяців тому +1

      He’s seven days from retirement.

  • @BoingoRider
    @BoingoRider 6 місяців тому +69

    You know the fucked thing, there are so many little elements that could work in a book. Like the idea of adopting a kid to draft them into superhero stuff, realizing you care about them and then be willing to give it all up for them could hit really hard in a different context.

    • @HQ_Default
      @HQ_Default 6 місяців тому +15

      Yeah, I feel like the _bones_ of this story can work, it just needs to drop the "heehee haha funny batman parody" angle.

    • @ComicCrossing
      @ComicCrossing 6 місяців тому +6

      the costumes are pretty great too. This isnt absolutley terrible. With a reboot it could be a nice addition to the Ultimate Universe.

  • @bluelanternof2814
    @bluelanternof2814 6 місяців тому +42

    You know it's gonna be a good episode when Sal spends the first 20 minutes explaining why the book exists

    • @theraven268
      @theraven268 3 місяці тому

      I wonder if there are books where this kind of tumult around it's creation exists but the actual book is good. Like Apocalypse Now of comic books.

  • @mttylerdurden9
    @mttylerdurden9 6 місяців тому +62

    I could listen to Sal talk about the marvel drama that bill Jemas and Joe Quesada drummed up for hours. 😆😆😆

  • @matthewterlaga3022
    @matthewterlaga3022 6 місяців тому +34

    I can’t believe this ended up on the couch before ultimate X-men, but here’s hoping that they eventually get to that series

  • @ziggy_425
    @ziggy_425 6 місяців тому +29

    Peter David is such a legendary creator who deserves more recognition I feel like. I feel bad for his situation rn and prey for his health

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 6 місяців тому +5

      If you can donate to his cause, then please do.

    • @ziggy_425
      @ziggy_425 6 місяців тому

      @daelen.cclark i donated money in the original go fund me page when he was in the hospital. My brother works at a comic store him and his family go to pretty frequently. Thats how I first heard about it

  • @JohnClark-tt2bl
    @JohnClark-tt2bl 6 місяців тому +56

    Surprised you guys didn't need hazmat suits just to touch this book.

  • @NovaZiggyStardust
    @NovaZiggyStardust 6 місяців тому +25

    The "context" episodes are always my favourite ones

  • @1337snake888
    @1337snake888 6 місяців тому +55

    I love when you do books that nobody remembers lmao

    • @JoeChillton
      @JoeChillton 6 місяців тому +9

      touche. They should do Ronin by Frank Miller.
      not exactly obscure but a less talked about good book by him before he went crazy.

    • @blackphoenix77
      @blackphoenix77 6 місяців тому

      I wish I didn't remember it

  • @WhatIsItAboutThem
    @WhatIsItAboutThem 6 місяців тому +31

    I personally love this episode! New favorite. Weird ass book lmao

    • @vidalruiziii1245
      @vidalruiziii1245 6 місяців тому +4

      Second that ! Every year just gets better

  • @DamionStingerDrake
    @DamionStingerDrake 6 місяців тому +23

    Now they need to complete the trilogy and talk about Captain marvel from U-decide.

  • @darwinpierce4749
    @darwinpierce4749 6 місяців тому +12

    Hawk-Owl looks so much like the Phantom of the Paradise which is a rock opera from the 70s

  • @bergerchicken
    @bergerchicken 6 місяців тому +12

    Wow, the character design for The Principal is straight up Michael Douglas in Falling Down. What a book this is.

  • @judahgregory1030
    @judahgregory1030 6 місяців тому +222

    I grow to dislike Bill Jemis more and more with every single story I hear about the man, which I didn’t think was possible after the Marville episode.

    • @Henderson10666
      @Henderson10666 6 місяців тому +40

      Jemis and Quesada represent everything i despise about comics

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Henderson10666They poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague upon our houses!

    • @ninja1man4u
      @ninja1man4u 6 місяців тому +13

      I did not even know he had a second book? I thought marville was his one and only shot. To see a 2nd one is unbelievable

    • @tylerbertram7065
      @tylerbertram7065 6 місяців тому +26

      He honestly makes me appreciate Jim Shooter more than I actually did.

    • @Ducaso
      @Ducaso 6 місяців тому

      Yea, I’m right there with ya.

  • @Thehotdogman
    @Thehotdogman 6 місяців тому +25

    Alright! It's ultimate spider--wait a minute, that's not ultimate Spiderman!

  • @Franwub
    @Franwub 6 місяців тому +7

    This is what I love about Sal, half an hour of context before even getting into the actual story, I learn so much. Any other content creator will give you one or the other, but you only get both here

  • @mttylerdurden9
    @mttylerdurden9 6 місяців тому +36

    For every great idea Jemas and Quesada had, they had 4 terrible ideas to go along with it.

  • @NAP8X
    @NAP8X 6 місяців тому +11

    The 2000s was such an interesting time for comics. Marvel seemed like they were willing to get weird in a way that would never happen today. The results obviously varied in quality considerably but we still got some amazing stuff in that era.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 6 місяців тому +2

      The 2000's as a whole were like that. Especially 2006.

  • @eriksieurin334
    @eriksieurin334 6 місяців тому +15

    Hawkowl Beyond! Hawkowl '66! Hawkowl's evil opposite Eagle Owl from Earth-2!

    • @lord_zaku
      @lord_zaku 6 місяців тому +4

      The Hawkowl who laughs 😂

  • @MrCeratix
    @MrCeratix 6 місяців тому +8

    "I'm sorry"
    "thank you"
    this is an all-timer, holy hell 🤣

  • @ColinJVitro13
    @ColinJVitro13 6 місяців тому +38

    The “Fuck Paul Levitz” thing is interesting because for the most part is he seems to be an OK guy; like idk maybe not the greatest but he’s just some guy that wrote a celebrated run on LoSH just doing his job.

    • @tylerbertram7065
      @tylerbertram7065 6 місяців тому +27

      Considering the amount of pot shots that he makes at Peter David in his Marville book it seems like Bill Jemas is a very petty jackass.

  • @TupocalypseShakur
    @TupocalypseShakur 6 місяців тому +24

    It's funny how Hawkowl is somehow more pathetic than the Ultimate universe's Nighthawk and that guy is just Kick-Ass

  • @JWoods2023
    @JWoods2023 6 місяців тому +23

    I’ve been refreshing my page for 30 minutes waiting for this😂

  • @mikesetzer9379
    @mikesetzer9379 6 місяців тому +9

    Sal, you sir do so much research and work for this channel! Your passion is really inspiring man! You got me into Spider-Man at 30! I’m now 40 and still watching all your content. Your whole team is awesome 👏

  • @vfxninja5503
    @vfxninja5503 6 місяців тому +5

    Man that Woody name reveal was like getting hit with a taser, it's actually a good name because he can just go I'M WOODY and then arrest everybody while they're laughing too hard to fight back

  • @robertlehto4667
    @robertlehto4667 6 місяців тому +9

    I'm surprised Linkara never covered this one.

  • @Depthcharge2030
    @Depthcharge2030 6 місяців тому +9

    With that Jay and Silent Bob parody it was never a question that this book would appear, only a matter of time.

  • @joshrowland7605
    @joshrowland7605 6 місяців тому +17

    The Pinkertons are gonna come after that poster.

    • @IzzysIssues
      @IzzysIssues 6 місяців тому +9

      As long as their lair isn't hiding any Wizards of the Coast merch they should be good

  • @Hawksmoor42
    @Hawksmoor42 6 місяців тому +8

    I'm sure Quesada was editor for UA just to officially get his name into the U Decide debacle without having to go "Here is my champion, Ron Zimmerman!" David and Jemas wrote their own books, but Quesada wasn't about to take the time to write or draw one himself.

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 6 місяців тому +1

      But he would do so for One More Day.

  • @CGomm-le7gv
    @CGomm-le7gv 6 місяців тому +4

    The way hawk-owl looks in the background image remind us of phantom of paradise

  • @littlekinginc124
    @littlekinginc124 6 місяців тому +5

    Just because you said that no one remembers this means that Hickman WILL write them in just to spite you

  • @codystork3008
    @codystork3008 6 місяців тому +4

    Its like Aunt Ruth and Father Joe had a whole spin off comic then showed back up for the series finale.

  • @ItsTheFizz
    @ItsTheFizz 6 місяців тому +45

    Joe Quesada's weird obsession with reigniting the Marvel/DC rivalry post-90s crash was friggin' weird... (and arguably a contributor to the toxicity we see in online comic discourse today)

  • @IzzysIssues
    @IzzysIssues 6 місяців тому +7

    I am so tempted to buy this trade for a friend of mine that is a big Batfan and despises ASBAR

  • @fun2building
    @fun2building 6 місяців тому +4

    The fact anybody thought either of these books that aren't anything would outsell the only one that is a thing is so fucking funny

  • @HaussmannComics-xd3gn
    @HaussmannComics-xd3gn 6 місяців тому +8

    Hawk Owl and Woody appeared again in Ziggy Pig and Silly Seal in the background at the "The Alley Behind the Closed Down Laundrymat Comic Con" just sayin

  • @chubbubdreamer6904
    @chubbubdreamer6904 6 місяців тому +3

    The only "Marvel Batman" I can think of really is Nighthawk. Who's part of a whole Justice League pastiche.

  • @titolove6895
    @titolove6895 6 місяців тому +2

    "wrong again kid" 😂😂😂

  • @brandolio6880
    @brandolio6880 6 місяців тому +11

    ULTIMATE SPI- oh. Wait. XD

  • @diegocorrea9327
    @diegocorrea9327 6 місяців тому +9

    Now you need to do Captain Marvel

  • @RobW2K10
    @RobW2K10 6 місяців тому +1

    Opens with 20 minutes of Behind The Scenes of whats happening at Marvel. Love it

  • @akiraeatsguitarpicks491
    @akiraeatsguitarpicks491 6 місяців тому +10

    This is like Brat Pack but if the reason for its existence was weak as hell

  • @ryanspengler4877
    @ryanspengler4877 6 місяців тому +7

    Everyone seemed to hate this back when it came out and it's been one of my guilty pleasure reads since release. I always wanted just a bit more with these characters.

    • @donkyoofficial
      @donkyoofficial 6 місяців тому +1

      A Chicago-based Batman analog in the Marvel universe could have been a really interesting idea. There's still time for Marvel to try it again!

  • @rolfsturm9930
    @rolfsturm9930 6 місяців тому +2

    I like how it takes 21 mins of back story for this one book. I start rolling

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
    @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 6 місяців тому +5

    I had never heard of this. What?! This had so much baggage. My favorite part was everyone just feeling sorry for each other for going through this ordeal together lmao

  • @operatchick6486
    @operatchick6486 6 місяців тому +6

    Marvel's What If?: What If Batman Suuuuuuuuuuuucked.

  • @benhramiak8781
    @benhramiak8781 Місяць тому

    The owl tangent at the end is honestly a great idea for a villain. Like if the court of owls were deathly silent as they approach

  • @Insane-Howl-Cowl
    @Insane-Howl-Cowl 6 місяців тому +2

    I feel like they read Berserk and thought "hey that Griffin guy has a cool costume" before designing HawkOwl.

  • @justinmitchell2577
    @justinmitchell2577 6 місяців тому +1

    You know it’s a good one when you get 20 minutes of sweet, delicious context

  • @darthkamen6564
    @darthkamen6564 6 місяців тому +4

    I am a massive Ultimate Universe fan...and I somehow didn't know this existed. This book sounds insane.

  • @_theguy1
    @_theguy1 6 місяців тому +4

    The real question is: did Hawk Owl and Woody survive Ultimatum?

  • @nathanchenery1075
    @nathanchenery1075 6 місяців тому +11

    Been reading comics 20 years. Honestly never heard of ultimate adventures.

  • @pyrolee17
    @pyrolee17 6 місяців тому +4

    You know what this whole story feels like? It feels like one of those fantasy American dad episodes. Like I can see Steve and Rodger getting in to this kind of nonsense and fighting principle Lewis or Bullock

  • @Hulkzilla0
    @Hulkzilla0 6 місяців тому +2

    The silent owl at the end was hilarious! Really funny to think about, but it would be legitimately terrifying!

  • @sangera
    @sangera 6 місяців тому +7

    I was going to say that now we need the Captain Marvel book to complete the trilogy, but I am thinking, "Perhaps, how about no?"

  • @Kitsunekun2
    @Kitsunekun2 6 місяців тому +3

    Fill the pie with Joker venom

  • @shadowanderson2004
    @shadowanderson2004 6 місяців тому +2

    Now we need you guys to cover the Captain marvel run

  • @harlemdeni
    @harlemdeni 6 місяців тому +3

    I unironically love this book! 😂 Read it many times, still hoping for a sequel some day! 😁

    • @TheBatbike
      @TheBatbike 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't think that's gonna happen considering 7 people know about this

  • @ericmiller93
    @ericmiller93 6 місяців тому +6

    Captain Marvel by Peter David slaps

  • @peacerevolver
    @peacerevolver 6 місяців тому +3

    You know it’s a really good episode if Ben and Ethan want to leave within the first few minutes lol. Also, did anyone else audibly yell OH NOOOO! At the end of ep 2 of ‘97?

  • @SpiralSine6
    @SpiralSine6 6 місяців тому +2

    Oh Lordy.
    Of all the things I could have expected, this is not one of them.

  • @anthonyhudak9363
    @anthonyhudak9363 6 місяців тому +3

    If we went this deep for a back issues, I really hope for a Godzilla episode in the near future

  • @freack3333
    @freack3333 6 місяців тому +3

    HAHAHA a U-Decide poster. Glorious! 🤣

  • @tylerbertram7065
    @tylerbertram7065 6 місяців тому +6

    Bill Jemas somehow makes Rob Liefeld look like a artistic genius.

  • @rosshall6475
    @rosshall6475 6 місяців тому +1

    I saw the episode of Futurama that they referenced in this video and Sal and Ethan were quoting it directly. The Cookieville Minimum Security Orphanarium

  • @KiramidHead
    @KiramidHead 6 місяців тому

    Fegredo had an amazing run drawing Hellboy, at least.

  • @kenlsten4651
    @kenlsten4651 6 місяців тому +1

    I remember reading this book when I was a kid but completely forgot what happened in it and had no idea about it’s complicated history.

  • @rema999p
    @rema999p 6 місяців тому +6

    What's Griffith doing there? :D

  • @michaelkelley88
    @michaelkelley88 6 місяців тому +1

    1:24:00 that had me absolutely howling with laughter, new episode=good day. love the tidbits and insight into the industry at the start of this video too! just another wonderful episode, Sal you're really pushing the boys to the limit with these books haha. i kinda would love to see the alternate universe where this book was covered in the early days when Ethan and Ben were a bit less forgiving of comic book whackyness lmfao.

  • @vidalruiziii1245
    @vidalruiziii1245 6 місяців тому +4

    I love this episode i enjoy y'alls disscusion of this book so much

  • @creed8712
    @creed8712 6 місяців тому +4

    Eventually we are going to get through all the bad ideas Marvel had in this era. We got trouble, Marville, and now this. What else can we put into this back issues playlist

  • @Peecamarke
    @Peecamarke 6 місяців тому +1

    What?! Ethan’s beard is even thicker now?! I thought you were one of us but now I see I was mistaken… you lucky magnificent bastard.. grow it out as thick as you can! For all of us no-facial-hair-growers! 💪🏿

  • @ivansplvd6518
    @ivansplvd6518 6 місяців тому +1

    WTF was this lmao!!
    Thanks guys I had so much fun, great show!

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 6 місяців тому +1

    Sal: “One gets a pie thrown in his face if he loses. And the other gets fired.”
    Um, how exactly is that fair?

  • @zackfair8762
    @zackfair8762 2 місяці тому

    I LOVE THIS BOOK
    I have so many panels in the snow saved from his series

  • @ineptgamer3814
    @ineptgamer3814 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the hilarious episode, guys...! 👍🏻

  • @davidtrainor9569
    @davidtrainor9569 6 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed reading this as a kid but I felt bad for the principal. Can you imagine if they bring these characters back?

  • @handlebarsmustache
    @handlebarsmustache 6 місяців тому +1

    You got to love that it takes 20 minutes just to build up to talking about this book

  • @anthonyleecollins9319
    @anthonyleecollins9319 6 місяців тому +2

    Hey, that's "Stately" Danner Manor. 🙂

  • @thomasarcanine
    @thomasarcanine 6 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, I "like" this "better" than Trouble... 🤣

  • @Super-Visor420
    @Super-Visor420 6 місяців тому

    Of all the comics, this was one of them.

  • @amanzeihedioha
    @amanzeihedioha 6 місяців тому +4

    OK, which one of you ticked off Sal again?

  • @jaronbragg2668
    @jaronbragg2668 6 місяців тому +1

    I now need Ethan to sub his dialogue into all spoken sections of Another Brick in the Wall

  • @walkerpierce5446
    @walkerpierce5446 6 місяців тому +1

    I... Actually want this book to get a reboot. It could be something great.

    • @walkerpierce5446
      @walkerpierce5446 6 місяців тому +1

      How about this: If there is ever more HawkOwl, I will buy it as my first ever comic book.

  • @kgaventura13
    @kgaventura13 6 місяців тому

    1:08:17 I literally had to rewind this part because I thought sal was joking... This book is insane!

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster 6 місяців тому +3

    oh thank christ I was hitting a part on the exercise bike where its getting hard [about hour mark] and need a great distraction if I want to make it to 90 min. steam deck in hand, back issues on the tv, me int he bike seat, all is well with the world

  • @shreyanshdas7481
    @shreyanshdas7481 6 місяців тому

    I love Ben's reaction 😆🤣🤣

  • @j.j.4150
    @j.j.4150 6 місяців тому

    Oh look, it's Griffith!

  • @gggonext9302
    @gggonext9302 6 місяців тому +2

    please do Inhumans by Jenkins and Lee. I'm a huge Inhumans fan but there is only one Inhumans video on this channel and it's the death of inhumans.

  • @onifrancis1566
    @onifrancis1566 6 місяців тому +1

    I've been waiting for this!

  • @camerondodge2070
    @camerondodge2070 6 місяців тому

    There are some nuggets of ideas in there. I kind of like the concept of the Principal, he feels like a Silver Age kind of Batman villain with how absurd the premise is, and the way he gets turned into a villain is even reminiscent of King Tut from the 60's show. There's almost something here. Almost.

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK 5 місяців тому

    I read the first couple issues a couple times since they were hanging around my local comic shop for a long time.

  • @amusingmoose9924
    @amusingmoose9924 3 місяці тому

    Hawkowl was killed in Ultimatum, but no one cared to find the body.

  • @gordondawson-tibbits1657
    @gordondawson-tibbits1657 6 місяців тому

    I don't think I've laughed harder this year than that last minute