Been married 12 years. My thing that works: maintain frame. Never bend your standards, hold her accountable, don't move when she tests (and blow them off), take care of yourself, focus on your mission, always be the leader, etc. Act like a man and she will treat you like one. It's no different than when you're dating.
trumptrump your argument is that its impossible to have the energy to do what's required therefore the nature of relationships must accommodate that. It doesn't work that way; the universe is cruel. If you need a 100k treatment for a disease; that doesnt mean you can suddenly afford it. There has been entire species that were doomed to failure; it wasn't incumbent on the universe to provide for a place for them.
Anyone else notice how all the guys are silent while someone else is talking? They are very respectful. Ever seen the show "The View"? Its a little different.....
Well it's because they don't disagree. They all share the same fundamental framework. If you watch different parties with highly different views, it's something completely different.
Yeah, I kinda agree with Zeddicus1976 here. For example, watch a show on ESPN, those guys interrupt and talk over each other regularly. Idk, context matters I think
Not only that, notice how all of them are deep listening to whoever is talking. I find this so amazing and respectful because these are high value men who understand the importance of always be learning and know when to give others the floor.
@@Zeddicus1976 that's not necessarily true... I watch a few other groups of men who disagree & agree on various topics and debate it respectfully, unlike shows like The View...
@@lukedavis6711 It is possible. It should be done by her father as she learns to spoon-feed herself between ages 1-4. If she hasn't been guided into responsibility before you meet her she will likely not be open to it. Old women used to teach young girls how to contribute to a man's life, cooking, cleaning, sewing, child care, etc. It's far easier for her to dismiss your opinion, blame you for being controlling, and replace you with a new guy who will tolerate her bullshit. Women, being human, tend to take the path of least resistance. Look for red flags, if there are serious issues, move on. Her problems are not yours. Whatever you decide to put up with is what you'll have to put up with.
Disagree. My husband pulling the plug on our 16 year relationship (13 yr marriage) was the most beta thing to do. All because he cared more about what external ppl thought of me not wanting a Covid vaccine. He cared more about what others thought than sticking with me (crazy thing is he didn’t want the Covid vax either but felt no choice due to employer mandates). He now wants to reconcile but I’m so hurt, I don’t think I will ever feel safe and protected by him again
Becoming red pill aware, that’s the answer. I’ve been in a 16 year long term relationship, and the red pill has not only saved this relationship but made it better. Our sex life is the best it’s ever been. Once my mindset changed our relationship changed for the better.
@@ATA-wi2lh to have your eyes opened and see the world, women, relationships, society, everything for what it REALLY is. To realize you've been lied to since birth and abandoning those lies.
I've seen this shit happen too. Guy never gets sex. Divorces his wife. Now she comes over all the damn time for sex. Why? She realizes her mistake and wants to try to set the hook again. Never get married again. If you are lonely, get a dog.
It’s usually the type of discourse you get from men talking to men, face to face, albeit online chat in this instance. This is my experience, at least. Key word is men though. No looking for online affirmation credit by competing for time in the spotlight; just honest communication.
Absolutely and walk away and never talk to her again, not out of malice or anger but out of moving forward and when they call and they usually do, don’t answer the call no matter what , big mistake on many levels
I will usually read their texts on sat night at midnight. let them just come over and plow it from behind. then send them on their way for trying to make the team via sex.
@@dre4505 Bro attitude adjustment means dont tolerate her crap especially in an LTR. Don't hold her purse for her bc its her way of emasculating you,, don't be ok with her going clubbing with the girls EVER bc clubs are a meat market and not for those in an LTR, don't encourage her that its ok to have a male bff, don't tolerate "girls vacations", if she gives you attitude calmly shut it down and if she violates any of these boundaties...you implement negative dread and no calls communication for at least a week if not more and make it clear if she does it again you will split. Make her know that you want a partner but only if she "plays nice"...,and if she doesn't follow suit...show her the door. Life is too short to tolerate any woman who is miserable, aggressive or difficult no matter how hot she is. Too many brothers out there tolerate mean spirited behavior from women bc of a scarcity mindset. Focus all your time on bettering yourself... success in business entrepreneurship, money, fitness, mental health, hobbies, buddies, etc and you will attract quality women bc you are on your mission. But this shouldn't be your goal...you are your goal
If you're looking for a long-term relationship, you need to be looking for a good employee, or more like a long term manager in your company that profits are shared with, but ultimately you are in charge. You are the ceo of your life and the marriage
Rollo makes a really good point at the start of this episode, at around the 9 minute mark. He basically says that he never 'tried' or aimed to be dominant with his wife - that's just the way it was between them from the beginning. This is true for all of us - there are no cheat codes or short cuts or prescriptions for maintaining dominance and frame in a relationship. It will only ever work if she is following you from the get-go because you are the natural leader. I've dated a range of train wreck feminists and slightly less obnoxious 'independent women' who all admitted to craving leadership in some way, but who rebelled against it in practice because they were fundamentally selfish and competitive when it came to men. The smallest, stupidest things would end up turning into some kind of protracted debate or power struggle because they were so competitive and resistant to the notion of male leadership in their lives. That being said, I am pleased to be dating someone right now who follows my lead because she wants to. We have talked somewhat about the value of gender roles, leadership, and dominance, but for the most part it just works because she has no interest in competing with me. She wants and expects me to be stronger and more secure than her, and she loves that I establish firm rules and boundaries for her. It's like Rollo says - it 'just works' because that's just the way it has been with us from the beginning. We don't waste time debating stupid details - we just get on with it.
So many of us aren't taking care of ourselves physically or mentally and have no sense of direction in life, just anesthetized slaves to the matrix. So thanks so much for spelling it out to us even if it's a hard pill to swallow. Ultimately the rewards are there if we are willing to level the fuck up in all areas of our lives. Thankfully there's still plenty of great women out there waiting for us to do just that. So hats off to all the guys who contributed to this excellent video which deserves mutiple viewing without pen and notepad in hand !!! But knowing is nothing without actually doing. Do the work as some guy in a car once said, can't remember who :)))
You “how” guys - the truth is, it’s hard work. Put yourself first. Always improve yourself. Tell her no when needed (which is often). Call her on her BS. And, always ALWAYS have an opinion (you make the decisions. Rarely, if ever, defer to her.). You always have to be switched on and thinking about maintaining frame. Show any weakness, and she will step out of line and fight for control of the relationship - that’s just female nature. At least that has been my experience...
I been married for 15 years, people ask me how I do it, best advice for men out there is to never let your wife think she’s the only option you have, yes that’s right. Make her jealous once in a while, be active, go to the gym, have exciting hobbies like mountain bike, motorcycles or something with adrenaline, tell her you need your space on daily basis… women hate to be bored… give them something to worry about all the time.
Married at 19. 35 years later, still loving being her man, her provider, her protector. Lately our bedroom arena is the best its ever been. We went thru minor doubts about the marriage due to me being pursued by outside women. I didnt make the unforgivable mistake and cross the red line. Im enjoying life with this woman, my most loyal friend and supportive person in my life. I once took her and another girl out on a date at the same time ( before we were married......) when we were both not exclusive..... she still jokes with me to this day about that brazen alpha move. Honestly i had no idea what the hell i was doing in 1986....... guess i got lucky......
My wife gets a smirk on her face trying not to smile when I draw a hard line or lay down the law about something. I don’t have to do it often but when I do I can tell she loves it.
Yep. Many a “storm in a teacup” when I was corrected in my marriage by my late husband. But, it helped me so much to have that solid foundation of leadership.
I know badass dudes with badass females - and it even falls off for them. Everything is going to get old, at some point. Especially if kids are born. Desire is a feeling. Feelings are fleeting. - The more logical premise is, 'tactics to make her keep up the act you enjoy'. For that's all it is, and the answer, is 'leverage'.
@@jgambler1188 You want her to 'feel' she's better off with you - than without you. It's everything. - It's the difference between 'the best of her' vs 'the worst of her'.
@@XxAzureNekoxX it’s a subconscious thing. You love a Man who drives you crazy. We Men love a woman who gives Us peace & tranquility. It’s why We breakup as often as We do when not under controlled social pressures like pre-feminism.
It's a bit depressing when you realise, that in order to have some love and tenderness in your life, it's then about how to deal with moody women that constantly want to argue and disparage you. Unless you happen to find a warm hearted and level headed one, that will eventually test your limits as well. Then again that may also be refreshing to see it as it is depending on how you look at it.
Stay AWAY from moody women, neurotic women who are into game playing and dont play games with a good woman or you will lose her. I had a husband who liked to try to game me...manipulate me, demand from me. Yeah life is too short. Though I stayed with him til he died an early death, I would have walked once our daughter was in college. He wanted the upper hand, but he was playing from what he KNEW was weakness, he was a lousey lover...premature 100% of the time, didnt know what to do with it. He was a disagreeable person! We had a child and he was a great father which was the ONLY reason I stayed with him...for HER. Then he died of a heart attack at 47 I was 31 and then I was free. I was determned NEVER to settle again I could support myself for life if necessary. Then I met an incredible man...newly divorced, no children. He was head of an enormous singles group dating three other women in the group, fine with me.I was going to date period. He wanted me...we dated kept saying we were going to date other people...I wasnt jealous in the least, yet I had no interest in dating anyone else.I had my PhD was a clinical psychologist, professor,.administrator I knew my value and not just professionally, though he WANTED an intelligent woman. He had gotten bored with his shallow wife who wanted him for his earning potential...she couldnt keep up with him intellectually, she bored him to tears. Great! Maybe average men dont care about intelligence but highly intelligent men DO. You cant have sex and eat meals 24/7. We had the same interests sailing, reading...she didnt like either. She was a typical female interested in clothes, money, jewelry and had zero intention of contributing ANYTHING to the mix and though she had a teaching certificate she didnt want to work. He was DONE with user women who had nothing BUT sex to add to the mix. What guy wants to carry a fully grown woman on his back his entire life? I had been dating before I moved there and knew I was highly desirable, my looks were way above average. I am pleasing to men, not feminist, zero student debt, assets. I had never been man free from the age of 18 for longer than 3 to 6 mos max. We took our time waited a year before moving in together. We have been perfect for each other for decades. He knew a good thing when he found me and so did I but I was gun shy after my awful marriage and took some convincing...I was in no hurry. We have never been bored a day...traveled alot in our 30s and 40s, had a sailboat and sailed every weekend. Lived on a beach in our 40s retired esrly on our investments at 50 and 55 bought a larger sailboat lived aboard a 45ft boat sailing the Caribbean close to ten years then built a house in a tropical country...he had been a builder developer...its a gorgeous tropical retreat in a Spring climate all year , heaven. All of it...he couldnt have had all this without my income, my attention to investing and neither could I, neither of us could have afforded to retire early without the other ...we have had a magical life BECAUSE we were mature enough to choose wisely, carefully and then recognize how lucky EACH OF US was to attract and keep the other.
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 Rage triggers very high cortisol levels and his cortisol levels must have been through the roof...it damages your body period...cardio system especially....so yes absolutely. Raged even in traffic swearing at people, you name it ,that was part of his narcissim too as in :who the hell do you people think YOU are to get in my way. He could clamp it off though around his superiors, He knew to feed his narcissism he had to increase his power at work and he knew he couldnt go off on a superior...that was what I was for...his release valve when he got home. He sure taught me alot about narcissism.What doesnt kill you makes you stronger at least in the short term, I am sure MY cortisol levels were through the roof but that calmed down when when he was gone. I have been serene for decades...wouldnt wish it on anyone though unhappy way to live.
@@latinaalma1947 Insufferable aren't they. Narcissism's the commonest form of madness, i think. If they don't drop dead during an apoplectic rage, they shoot themselves or drink/drug themselves to death. It's the trail of carnage they leave in their wake that's saddest of all. I never met a narc who wasn't extremely vulnerable in fact but of course they'd be the last to admit it.
I have a pretty good relationship with my wife. Yes I'm head of the household and we are very happy. One thing I learned: Initially when we discussing a problem, she's cry, I'd feel bad and wonder - 'Why do I feel bad trying to correct something she's doing, when she is so upset and crying?' So my solution was to refuse to address things when she cried. I would simply say "We're both adults. I'm not discussing this when you are crying. Come back to me when you can discuss this without crying" - It's been pretty effective. I see crying during an argument/discussion as emotional blackmail. I told my wife that too because she needs to know I won't deal that way. I was very calm when telling her and I've done it a few times. She will NEVER get her way by crying at me or trying to guilt me into capitulation.
That was excellent on Rian last comment!! and that’s what I’m going through exactly I’m a 50 on my second marriage and I moved in with her and realized I’m a live in handyman. I woke up realizing I’m living in her frame. Thanks! now I know it’s not just in my head!!!
Me & my bf are doing a mutual frame... so what’s wonderful is we decide what stuff he leads on and what stuff I lead on... and because I’m highly water (feminine) energy, I really like him helping me with structure and still he’s helped out with what I can help him/us with! Because I’m so water, I can easily sometimes go too submissive and it’s not good for me... so monthly meeting on structure that we both agree on... and then he leads with that mutually agreed upon structure. It helps me feel safe and loved and he loves it too ☺️
Great. I've been waiting to hear these dudes drop content towards maintaining LTRs. Since I've been in one for a while now. Funny how nothing really Changes.. The attributes that made you attractive to woman in the first place, are essentially the same things that keep them wanting you. Never stop learning, never stop growing, never stop maintaining frame. If your lucky you'll find a chick, that will hold it down, "Should you fall" should you hit "hard times". Even then you can maintain frame. Be safe lads.
It is nice to see this topic being covered. We have seen countless videos from you on how to get to a LTR but few on how to maintain. Maintaining that relationship is by far the hardest part. Do not bend the knee!! You will lose your self worth quickly. The day she loses respect for you it is over
Holding your frame is very important for your wife to keep "feeling" for you. I wish I knew this important point before the failure of my marriage. Ah well, at least I won't die a lost clue less blue piller.
I agree, so many content creators focus on attraction, when attraction is one of the simplest aspects of dealing with women, rather than maintaining relationships. I guess its easier to put out LMS content than how to maintain relationships content
@@albertwesker8883, I have been successfully married for 10 years. She has been with 2 people in her life and I am on my first marriage. The info provided here is real. I have been running my life on this info since my early 20’s. I saw the failures others had and decided I wasn’t going to let my value be lost to a branch swinger
@@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left I Agree. Thats why I like Rule Zero so much they provide real practical content instead of "how to get hot chicks!!!" Like many other content creators
Passive or 3rd party dread works a treat, happened at least half a dozen times when we've been out for drinks/dinner, when the wife goes to the rest room another woman will come up talking...I love the look on my wife's face when she comes back from the rest room
You gotta keep flirting with your wife. A lot of men stop flirting or being funny with their wives, or if they do flirt it’s all just sex based flirting. You gotta flirt with them and give them attention, tease them about things. Also stop being so in decisive. When it’s time to make a decision, man up and say what you want. Like hey we having steak for dinner...and start making it. Then give her something to be in charge of.
Thanks for the video! I’m so glad I’m not the leader in my LTR. Never wanted to be and I have a man who demands certain things and I do what he wants and I want to. 17 years not married and things are pretty good. Still have genuine desire on both sides.
wish I had learned this all earlier in life. Would have made such a difference in relationships and business. The whole mentality of scarcity vs. abundance. Not chasing. The power of saying 'no' and not feeling guilty. Keeping options open. My goodness.
My gf, whom I’ve been with for more than a year, always seeks attention online from both Instagram and Facebook posting provocative status to hit her on dm. I brought up the topic while we were on call, she got pissed off and tried to close the topic by yapping then I told her straight that if she continues or post like that one more time I’ll walk away with my self respect and dignity that I don’t want to be in a committed LTR while she’s sourcing attention from other guys like that. After I told her this, she remained quite for a while and started talking in a lower tone of voice. Guys, it’s very powerful to have the mind and ability to walk away.
Jesus Christ, if you put the amount of effort it takes to maintain genuine desire from your woman in a LTR/marriage into solely yourself and your personal goals, you'd be able to accomplish anything! To say the juice isnt worth the sqeeze is a severe understatement. To every man who is still willing to go for LTRs/marriage in this day and age, I wish you good luck. You're going to need it!
@@alexsampsell3950 Whaaaaat!! best friend?? I promise you she will not be our best friend at that moment. We al die alone, but you need not feel lonely. Remember the amount of luck to even BE the 30% of marriages that don't end up in divorce. What you're saying is that you know you will find that unicorn that no one else has found. There is a reason they have not found them.
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 First of all don't just pull numbers out of your ass. Second, it is rational for a man to want to have a partner well into his old age. You may plan financially for economic security like the original post is stating but without family to share your wealth with, what is the meaning of having all that wealth. You can't take it with you when you die.
@@alexsampsell3950 as soon as she realize she has to spend a dime or wipe your ass gonna throw your ass in a assissted living home and/or divorce you and take half of what you needed to retire with. the risk is just too great..............good luck
Aaron clarey at 12 minutes in. He was literally saying someone who compliments your life. Rollos wife says “Your my husband I go where u go”. Someone who believes in you 1000% and has just as much faith she’s following a man who always has her best interest at.
My ex husband's mom/dad dynamic was that the mom was the breadwinner, the dad was the stay at home. Now, I loved them very much. However, my ex husband never stepped up to lead the marriage. I urged him to workout, make the decisions, just lead. I wanted that. But it never happened, I felt so masculine in that relationship. I had to leave because Im just not that way.
The only time my girlfriend drives if I've been drinking. And I tell her hey I've been drinking. Your driving. I don't let her say you have been drinking let me drive. By me telling her it shows that I am still in control and im making a responsable decision.
Excellent material..you always refer to the 20s -40s age guys. What about the over 50s-60s men who are divorced and or widowed. Appreciate it if you would do a video session about dating and LTR RELATIONSHIPS in that age bracket.
Rollo was picky about who he married based on some good old fashioned common sense. The information I hear come from you guys I was given by my old school Mexican mother......”get you a younger woman, no women with kids, no women that have been around the block, meet her parents and see how that are.
Women hold the balance of power legally if you are financially involved, married, or have children with them. The majority of them know this and make the most of it. The only counter is to have done the groundwork prior to this shift, and then to try and game them from an 'evolutionary' standpoint.
Can you make a video on how a woman can maintain desire from a man in a LTR? I’m a female watcher and hope to be a wife who adds substance to my husbands life rather than make things worse for him!
Exercise regularly, learn to cook clean home cooked meal, be physically active, explore and develop some hobbies (preferably low cost), develop reading as a hobby(that will make you way more interesting once you have explored each other throughly through sex)
Maintain your looks and youth. Support him in decisions. Promote intimacy and affection towards him. Above all be trustworthy and honest. Be a good mother. Always try to improve yourself so he won't look else where.
3 years LTR. I just want to say that all this advice these gentlemen give is 100% on point. A women is designed to have the male lead, by lead I mean be always on your frame, call the shots, dont be the nice guy, never get emotional or yell at her, make her orgasm and treat her every now and then to a nice gift. Key thing is to be successful in life and never drop your guard with women.
Dread doesn't "keep her in check" as Richard stated at 24:30, it motivates her to invest more in the relationship (as Rollo pointed out), to make more effort to keep him. The enemy of any LTR is complacency, leading to boredom and contempt. The complacent guy slides into beta and the complacent gal turns cold, both neglecting what could have been a decent relationship.
There’s a difference between the rare women who are man-haters and women who just believe women are equal humans. All my life, I’ve never once met a man-hater IRL. Real equalists like me just want men to love and appreciate women as much as I love and appreciate men🤍
My wife did, I red pilled her... she's actually much happier now as well. Just bring up the wall, and the reality that women face when they sleep around and have multiple partners
@@juneelle370 when it comes down to it, the feminist indoctrination has been a part of western society for so long and pushed on people that many women (and men) don't even know that they are brainwashed. Most women have no idea that they are fundamentally screwed up. I however am fortunate. My wife was raised in a traditional Asian culture. She's AMAZING has has never had any feminist tendencies. 13 years and 6 kids later, we couldn't be more happy.
Gotta maintain focus on your purpose without compromise. If she's a long term ride or die chick she's gonna fall in line or fall back. Regardless of what happens you win.
Married 24 years. You both have to agree to these two things, agree to be married and agree to be happy. You can be married and not happy and happy and not married. If you both are focused on those goals you can keep it going. Much of it has to be with me respecting myself, being driven and improving myself all the time to keep her interest and she sees me moving forward in life and keeping my SMV up, she’s compelled to work on herself. It helps her friends think I’m attractive :).
@Replicant2600...sounds pretty practical and sound advice your giving there.... I think a lot of men are missing the point. Women ( healthy ones) are innately submissive around authentic Males who are unquestionably, providers & protectors. It's in our DNA. We cant help it. ....But, so many men are playing a role and trying to be something they aren't naturally born to be.
My wife once cheated on me a few years ago. At counseling the (female) counselor told us my 3 month relapse I had after a surgery was worse than my wife cheating. Other than that slip been clean over ten years. I thought that was ridiculous and never been more pissed.
I take it that Rollo was very RP aware before he even decided to marry. In case if his current wife would not have been the natural follower, he would just have moved on searching for another one.
@Luis exactly. Also, Rollo was surrounded by hot strippers during his DJing days and related stuff before meeting his wife. @Amit How do you think he learned so much about women so quickly? It’s all that experience before his wife
@@VwapTrader I agree. We all knew of a mini version of Rollo back in our BP days, but no one had distilled and communicated the female "mystique" like Rollo. Most of the "players" ultimately became a beta after their ltr and or marriage. The experience prior to marriage is necessary but so is what one does with the knowledge AFTER marriage.
Rule # 1: Always be able to walk away. Rule # 2: Always be *willing* to walk away. It doesn't mean being an asshole. It simply means you place your self-respect over all risks associated with leaving the relationship (especially marriage). If these two rules are internalized as the foundation for your romantic relationship/s (as they should be, since these rules apply to all aspects of life), she will *intrinsically know* and she will respect you. Respect, in my opinion, is the bedrock of all non-physical attraction in all relationships. LTR's are no exception.
Goes for women too...always be able to wslk away and always be willing to walk away if HE is a jerk. People have to have deep respect for each other period. Nobodybis the oss or incjarge of the other IF you maintain your ability to walk away. Needy is decidedly unattractive....inn a male or a female.
Wisdom, widdom, widom. Im feeling like jackpot watching these gentlemen spitting truth. 👍👍👍from 49:00 great info, view - what it should be. Will come back, this is too good to be true.
Pretty good vid. I've been married for 24 years and it's mostly been excellent. But all marriages and relationships go through shit. Every single one. But how you, as a man, handle that stress and maintain your frame, your calm, and your ability to move through hard times, determines whether a relationship will last. She'll follow your lead if your lead is true. She'll buck, hard, if the line you are taking is false, is forced, is not really who you are. I have a late-teen son. We've talked about what it means to be an honest, responsible man and when that is likely to happen. That happens when you decide to take as much control of your life as you can possibly think about. Because if you don't, someone else will.
What Rollo says at 49:00 is 100% accurate! That was how I was brought up. Trying to kill that blue pill part in me. Its not easy but I can't go back since I already swallowed the red pill
For the women out there, if you love who you're with, they turn into who you love. If you're trying to turn your man into the perfect God, who and what you don't appreciate, depreciates in value, including your man. Conversely, who and what you appreciate, appreciates in value, simple law.
@@impactproformance That's better. My wife was adopted from orphanage and is afraid from getting refused and people influence her. I am trying to put envy on her and se with open eyes what really friends are.
I've been married 16 years. Courtesy is critical to LTRs. Both ways. I've always believed that the only reason I would marry is if I truly loved the gal. If you don't or marry for other reasons, your done...its just a matter of time. Courtesy is critical. Did I mention that courtesy is critical....
This presentation was particularly valuable. We all need to have the basics hammered in before we try anything advanced. Without the big picture and full understanding, any actions you take could get flipped over without knowing "what to do next". I, personally, am implementing all of your recommendations little by little. Once I see something working, I move on to the next change.
Rollo, you used the word "Atomized". I suggest that you read the novel "Atomized" by Michel Houellebecq. In fact, I recommend the book to all of you. It is a cynical accurate look at the fruits of the sexual revolution and how it has debased us all. If you like this novel he has more.
This whole episode covered what to do/how to be before you get into an LTR. Was hoping for advice on how to maintain frame etc. In LTR where women have more leverage because it's not easy for you to walk away. Also hire to get frame back if you've lost it. Edit.... just watched to the end and good stuff is near the end.
I like the dance partner image~ the man leads, the woman follows. I do think attraction lies in physics shape but intimacy as well. And that's not just physical. It's intimacy in sharing a life equally, sharing feelings, hopes, dreams, fears, secrets....it's being completely bare and open to one another~ no holds barred.
Yes! My Fiancé and I out-do each other in the giving department. It's a complete joy and we actually get off on doing for the other. I know Apex said make sure the woman is a little ahead in the giving department (to the guy) ~I'm good with that ☺️💕 We are both natural givers, so it works!
Been married 12 years. My thing that works: maintain frame. Never bend your standards, hold her accountable, don't move when she tests (and blow them off), take care of yourself, focus on your mission, always be the leader, etc.
Act like a man and she will treat you like one. It's no different than when you're dating.
Despite all this, she can lie about you and you can still end up in prison with a cellmate who wants you to wash his underpants and socks and his ass.
@Clorox Tree lol nice
I call bullshit. Everyone has to relax and let their guard down at some point.
trumptrump your argument is that its impossible to have the energy to do what's required therefore the nature of relationships must accommodate that. It doesn't work that way; the universe is cruel. If you need a 100k treatment for a disease; that doesnt mean you can suddenly afford it. There has been entire species that were doomed to failure; it wasn't incumbent on the universe to provide for a place for them.
Sounds like a man catering to the women and having the life drained from him, you married to a succubus or what?
Anyone else notice how all the guys are silent while someone else is talking? They are very respectful.
Ever seen the show "The View"?
Its a little different.....
Well it's because they don't disagree. They all share the same fundamental framework. If you watch different parties with highly different views, it's something completely different.
Yeah, I kinda agree with Zeddicus1976 here. For example, watch a show on ESPN, those guys interrupt and talk over each other regularly. Idk, context matters I think
Not only that, notice how all of them are deep listening to whoever is talking. I find this so amazing and respectful because these are high value men who understand the importance of always be learning and know when to give others the floor.
watch a sports talk show,
@@Zeddicus1976 that's not necessarily true... I watch a few other groups of men who disagree & agree on various topics and debate it respectfully, unlike shows like The View...
Its a dangerous game to assume a girl who has been spoon-fed her entire life will change to become a responsible adult.
Why? Is it possible to keep the feminine parts of a spoon-fed girl and guild her into responsibility?
@@lukedavis6711 No.
@@ORflycaster why not? I like really feminine cute girls; the are always spoiled princesses.
@@lukedavis6711 no brother. For an LTR...stay away from red flags...high maintenance, argumentative, entitled etc.
@@lukedavis6711 It is possible. It should be done by her father as she learns to spoon-feed herself between ages 1-4. If she hasn't been guided into responsibility before you meet her she will likely not be open to it. Old women used to teach young girls how to contribute to a man's life, cooking, cleaning, sewing, child care, etc.
It's far easier for her to dismiss your opinion, blame you for being controlling, and replace you with a new guy who will tolerate her bullshit. Women, being human, tend to take the path of least resistance.
Look for red flags, if there are serious issues, move on. Her problems are not yours. Whatever you decide to put up with is what you'll have to put up with.
Relationships are like any negotiation: who ever can walk away, has all of the power.
truth!!
Disagree. My husband pulling the plug on our 16 year relationship (13 yr marriage) was the most beta thing to do. All because he cared more about what external ppl thought of me not wanting a Covid vaccine. He cared more about what others thought than sticking with me (crazy thing is he didn’t want the Covid vax either but felt no choice due to employer mandates). He now wants to reconcile but I’m so hurt, I don’t think I will ever feel safe and protected by him again
@@selopibani3220u didn’t want the jab? Smart woman. Doesn’t even matter now.
Becoming red pill aware, that’s the answer. I’ve been in a 16 year long term relationship, and the red pill has not only saved this relationship but made it better. Our sex life is the best it’s ever been. Once my mindset changed our relationship changed for the better.
You control everything bro your mindset is everything in your relationship
what does it mean to be "red pilled"?
3% man
@@ATA-wi2lh to have your eyes opened and see the world, women, relationships, society, everything for what it REALLY is. To realize you've been lied to since birth and abandoning those lies.
I've seen this shit happen too. Guy never gets sex. Divorces his wife.
Now she comes over all the damn time for sex. Why? She realizes her mistake and wants to try to set the hook again.
Never get married again. If you are lonely, get a dog.
I like how these men are intently listening to each other and not just looking at themselves in their camera and waiting for their turn to talk.
It's called respect..it's an old timey thing that we better get back for the good of our society
It’s usually the type of discourse you get from men talking to men, face to face, albeit online chat in this instance. This is my experience, at least. Key word is men though. No looking for online affirmation credit by competing for time in the spotlight; just honest communication.
This is how a guy function works. All the more reason why guy only clubs are a good cause.
58:00 If a girl says she needs time, leave, and give her all the time.
Yep, and when they come to you on their knees begging to come back don't take them back. They didn't change over night.
Exit & Kick it to the curb
🥾.....🍑
Absolutely and walk away and never talk to her again, not out of malice or anger but out of moving forward and when they call and they usually do, don’t answer the call no matter what , big mistake on many levels
I will usually read their texts on sat night at midnight. let them just come over and plow it from behind. then send them on their way for trying to make the team via sex.
@@BarryObaminable im getting to this stage
How many came here when it was already too late? 👋
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Me fs
Never too late bro if she has any kind of emotion to you... There is a way to win her back...
Oof
Me
I have been married for 21 years.
My wife shows the most affection love and respect after I give her a attitude adjustment.
Exactly Bro! They NEED it too......
And how does the work exactly , can you elaborate for us young guns??
Yes elaborate
Please explain
@@dre4505 Bro attitude adjustment means dont tolerate her crap especially in an LTR. Don't hold her purse for her bc its her way of emasculating you,, don't be ok with her going clubbing with the girls EVER bc clubs are a meat market and not for those in an LTR, don't encourage her that its ok to have a male bff, don't tolerate "girls vacations", if she gives you attitude calmly shut it down and if she violates any of these boundaties...you implement negative dread and no calls communication for at least a week if not more and make it clear if she does it again you will split. Make her know that you want a partner but only if she "plays nice"...,and if she doesn't follow suit...show her the door. Life is too short to tolerate any woman who is miserable, aggressive or difficult no matter how hot she is. Too many brothers out there tolerate mean spirited behavior from women bc of a scarcity mindset. Focus all your time on bettering yourself... success in business entrepreneurship, money, fitness, mental health, hobbies, buddies, etc and you will attract quality women bc you are on your mission. But this shouldn't be your goal...you are your goal
If you're looking for a long-term relationship, you need to be looking for a good employee, or more like a long term manager in your company that profits are shared with, but ultimately you are in charge. You are the ceo of your life and the marriage
Agree! If you let your wife take the lead in your marriage, you'll be divorced within 5 years.
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Rollo makes a really good point at the start of this episode, at around the 9 minute mark. He basically says that he never 'tried' or aimed to be dominant with his wife - that's just the way it was between them from the beginning. This is true for all of us - there are no cheat codes or short cuts or prescriptions for maintaining dominance and frame in a relationship. It will only ever work if she is following you from the get-go because you are the natural leader.
I've dated a range of train wreck feminists and slightly less obnoxious 'independent women' who all admitted to craving leadership in some way, but who rebelled against it in practice because they were fundamentally selfish and competitive when it came to men. The smallest, stupidest things would end up turning into some kind of protracted debate or power struggle because they were so competitive and resistant to the notion of male leadership in their lives.
That being said, I am pleased to be dating someone right now who follows my lead because she wants to. We have talked somewhat about the value of gender roles, leadership, and dominance, but for the most part it just works because she has no interest in competing with me. She wants and expects me to be stronger and more secure than her, and she loves that I establish firm rules and boundaries for her.
It's like Rollo says - it 'just works' because that's just the way it has been with us from the beginning. We don't waste time debating stupid details - we just get on with it.
This is true. You have to maintain this dynamic from the beginning. Otherwise, it's damn near impossible to change it years into an LTR.
I learned more about relationships in this hour and a half than I have in decades 😳
So many of us aren't taking care of ourselves physically or mentally and have no sense of direction in life, just anesthetized slaves to the matrix. So thanks so much for spelling it out to us even if it's a hard pill to swallow. Ultimately the rewards are there if we are willing to level the fuck up in all areas of our lives. Thankfully there's still plenty of great women out there waiting for us to do just that. So hats off to all the guys who contributed to this excellent video which deserves mutiple viewing without pen and notepad in hand !!! But knowing is nothing without actually doing. Do the work as some guy in a car once said, can't remember who :)))
True bud. Good comment! We know what to do, just have to put it into action! Be an action man!
You must always maintain a frame where she cares more about the relationship than you do.
How ?
How
@@maxximilianm3752 You have to make them INVEST into the relationship. Make them WORK for your attention, time, energy, financial resources, etc.
Not remaining frame can be catastrophic
You “how” guys - the truth is, it’s hard work. Put yourself first. Always improve yourself. Tell her no when needed (which is often). Call her on her BS. And, always ALWAYS have an opinion (you make the decisions. Rarely, if ever, defer to her.). You always have to be switched on and thinking about maintaining frame. Show any weakness, and she will step out of line and fight for control of the relationship - that’s just female nature. At least that has been my experience...
I been married for 15 years, people ask me how I do it, best advice for men out there is to never let your wife think she’s the only option you have, yes that’s right. Make her jealous once in a while, be active, go to the gym, have exciting hobbies like mountain bike, motorcycles or something with adrenaline, tell her you need your space on daily basis… women hate to be bored… give them something to worry about all the time.
Super healthy bro. Your life partner should always be looking over their back.
@@marcd2743yes.
Rollo took the win here. He has a natural clarity and articulates it so well. Great vid.
Married at 19. 35 years later, still loving being her man, her provider, her protector. Lately our bedroom arena is the best its ever been. We went thru minor doubts about the marriage due to me being pursued by outside women. I didnt make the unforgivable mistake and cross the red line. Im enjoying life with this woman, my most loyal friend and supportive person in my life. I once took her and another girl out on a date at the same time ( before we were married......) when we were both not exclusive..... she still jokes with me to this day about that brazen alpha move. Honestly i had no idea what the hell i was doing in 1986....... guess i got lucky......
How to game your wife. Don't Get Married. 😊👍
exactly 😆
Some men want to have children and raise them.
lol 😂
How to not lose the game. Don't play.
@@smiechu47 does not mean you need to be married to live together as a family..
My wife gets a smirk on her face trying not to smile when I draw a hard line or lay down the law about something. I don’t have to do it often but when I do I can tell she loves it.
yep, here the same
@Crystal V
You’re biologically wired to respond and find this arousing.
Yep. Many a “storm in a teacup” when I was corrected in my marriage by my late husband. But, it helped me so much to have that solid foundation of leadership.
You the men.
There we go 👏
If she's hit her mid 20s and hasn't started acting in a respectful manor like she is running out of time. Next.
I met a woman who said that a psychic told her she'd settle down when she's 63. I was actually keen on her, but next.
@@BeamRider100 yeah you dogded a bullet my g, congrats
*manner
I'm still acting in a respectful apartment. What's wrong with me?!
I know badass dudes with badass females - and it even falls off for them.
Everything is going to get old, at some point.
Especially if kids are born.
Desire is a feeling. Feelings are fleeting.
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The more logical premise is, 'tactics to make her keep up the act you enjoy'.
For that's all it is, and the answer, is 'leverage'.
Leverage, can you frame that for me?what do you mean?
@@jgambler1188 You want her to 'feel' she's better off with you - than without you.
It's everything.
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It's the difference between 'the best of her' vs 'the worst of her'.
@@nathanmayes2164 gotcha, appreciate the reply
@@jgambler1188 For sure, man.
Mr. Burns Logical and Sobering. Much appreciated Sir.
How to propose the red pill way: "I invite you to be my wife."
Don’t be afraid to pass up having sex with her. It makes her think you are not into her and she starts to worry. They like being worried/mad.
Agreed. Game is the ability to say no
We don’t like being worried or mad. 🙄
@@XxAzureNekoxX it’s a subconscious thing. You love a Man who drives you crazy.
We Men love a woman who gives Us peace & tranquility.
It’s why We breakup as often as We do when not under controlled social pressures like pre-feminism.
@@VwapTrader I want a man to be stable not drive me crazy wtf
The important word was "subconscious"
It's a bit depressing when you realise, that in order to have some love and tenderness in your life, it's then about how to deal with moody women that constantly want to argue and disparage you. Unless you happen to find a warm hearted and level headed one, that will eventually test your limits as well. Then again that may also be refreshing to see it as it is depending on how you look at it.
Stay AWAY from moody women, neurotic women who are into game playing and dont play games with a good woman or you will lose her. I had a husband who liked to try to game me...manipulate me, demand from me. Yeah life is too short. Though I stayed with him til he died an early death, I would have walked once our daughter was in college. He wanted the upper hand, but he was playing from what he KNEW was weakness, he was a lousey lover...premature 100% of the time, didnt know what to do with it. He was a disagreeable person! We had a child and he was a great father which was the ONLY reason I stayed with him...for HER. Then he died of a heart attack at 47 I was 31 and then I was free.
I was determned NEVER to settle again I could support myself for life if necessary. Then I met an incredible man...newly divorced, no children. He was head of an enormous singles group dating three other women in the group, fine with me.I was going to date period. He wanted me...we dated kept saying we were going to date other people...I wasnt jealous in the least, yet I had no interest in dating anyone else.I had my PhD was a clinical psychologist, professor,.administrator I knew my value and not just professionally, though he WANTED an intelligent woman. He had gotten bored with his shallow wife who wanted him for his earning potential...she couldnt keep up with him intellectually, she bored him to tears. Great!
Maybe average men dont care about intelligence but highly intelligent men DO. You cant have sex and eat meals 24/7. We had the same interests sailing, reading...she didnt like either. She was a typical female interested in clothes, money, jewelry and had zero intention of contributing ANYTHING to the mix and though she had a teaching certificate she didnt want to work. He was DONE with user women who had nothing BUT sex to add to the mix. What guy wants to carry a fully grown woman on his back his entire life?
I had been dating before I moved there and knew I was highly desirable, my looks were way above average. I am pleasing to men, not feminist, zero student debt, assets. I had never been man free from the age of 18 for longer than 3 to 6 mos max. We took our time waited a year before moving in together. We have been perfect for each other for decades. He knew a good thing when he found me and so did I but I was gun shy after my awful marriage and took some convincing...I was in no hurry. We have never been bored a day...traveled alot in our 30s and 40s, had a sailboat and sailed every weekend. Lived on a beach in our 40s retired esrly on our investments at 50 and 55 bought a larger sailboat lived aboard a 45ft boat sailing the Caribbean close to ten years then built a house in a tropical country...he had been a builder developer...its a gorgeous tropical retreat in a Spring climate all year , heaven. All of it...he couldnt have had all this without my income, my attention to investing and neither could I, neither of us could have afforded to retire early without the other ...we have had a magical life BECAUSE we were mature enough to choose wisely, carefully and then recognize how lucky EACH OF US was to attract and keep the other.
@@latinaalma1947 His rage issues probably caused the heart attack.
@@thegeniusofthecrowd354 Rage triggers very high cortisol levels and his cortisol levels must have been through the roof...it damages your body period...cardio system especially....so yes absolutely. Raged even in traffic swearing at people, you name it ,that was part of his narcissim too as in :who the hell do you people think YOU are to get in my way. He could clamp it off though around his superiors, He knew to feed his narcissism he had to increase his power at work and he knew he couldnt go off on a superior...that was what I was for...his release valve when he got home. He sure taught me alot about narcissism.What doesnt kill you makes you stronger at least in the short term, I am sure MY cortisol levels were through the roof but that calmed down when when he was gone. I have been serene for decades...wouldnt wish it on anyone though unhappy way to live.
@@latinaalma1947 Insufferable aren't they. Narcissism's the commonest form of madness, i think. If they don't drop dead during an apoplectic rage, they shoot themselves or drink/drug themselves to death. It's the trail of carnage they leave in their wake that's saddest of all. I never met a narc who wasn't extremely vulnerable in fact but of course they'd be the last to admit it.
This is a really good episode. Rollo’s points on guys been pre whipped for a girl they’ve never met is great
I have a pretty good relationship with my wife. Yes I'm head of the household and we are very happy.
One thing I learned:
Initially when we discussing a problem, she's cry, I'd feel bad and wonder - 'Why do I feel bad trying to correct something she's doing, when she is so upset and crying?'
So my solution was to refuse to address things when she cried. I would simply say "We're both adults. I'm not discussing this when you are crying. Come back to me when you can discuss this without crying" - It's been pretty effective. I see crying during an argument/discussion as emotional blackmail. I told my wife that too because she needs to know I won't deal that way. I was very calm when telling her and I've done it a few times. She will NEVER get her way by crying at me or trying to guilt me into capitulation.
My classmate's ex tried this, you know how it went
This is probably the most value out of any video any of these creators ever made individually. Thanks gents
That was excellent on Rian last comment!! and that’s what I’m going through exactly I’m a 50 on my second marriage and I moved in with her and realized I’m a live in handyman. I woke up realizing I’m living in her frame. Thanks! now I know it’s not just in my head!!!
Me & my bf are doing a mutual frame... so what’s wonderful is we decide what stuff he leads on and what stuff I lead on... and because I’m highly water (feminine) energy, I really like him helping me with structure and still he’s helped out with what I can help him/us with! Because I’m so water, I can easily sometimes go too submissive and it’s not good for me... so monthly meeting on structure that we both agree on... and then he leads with that mutually agreed upon structure. It helps me feel safe and loved and he loves it too ☺️
Great. I've been waiting to hear these dudes drop content towards maintaining LTRs. Since I've been in one for a while now. Funny how nothing really Changes.. The attributes that made you attractive to woman in the first place, are essentially the same things that keep them wanting you. Never stop learning, never stop growing, never stop maintaining frame. If your lucky you'll find a chick, that will hold it down, "Should you fall" should you hit "hard times". Even then you can maintain frame. Be safe lads.
It is nice to see this topic being covered. We have seen countless videos from you on how to get to a LTR but few on how to maintain. Maintaining that relationship is by far the hardest part. Do not bend the knee!! You will lose your self worth quickly. The day she loses respect for you it is over
Holding your frame is very important for your wife to keep "feeling" for you.
I wish I knew this important point before the failure of my marriage.
Ah well, at least I won't die a lost clue less blue piller.
I agree, so many content creators focus on attraction, when attraction is one of the simplest aspects of dealing with women, rather than maintaining relationships. I guess its easier to put out LMS content than how to maintain relationships content
@@albertwesker8883, I have been successfully married for 10 years. She has been with 2 people in her life and I am on my first marriage. The info provided here is real. I have been running my life on this info since my early 20’s. I saw the failures others had and decided I wasn’t going to let my value be lost to a branch swinger
@@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left I Agree. Thats why I like Rule Zero so much they provide real practical content instead of "how to get hot chicks!!!" Like many other content creators
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke - same story here
Passive or 3rd party dread works a treat, happened at least half a dozen times when we've been out for drinks/dinner, when the wife goes to the rest room another woman will come up talking...I love the look on my wife's face when she comes back from the rest room
Rich, Great show. You do a very nice job moderating and interviewing. Thank you all!
You gotta keep flirting with your wife. A lot of men stop flirting or being funny with their wives, or if they do flirt it’s all just sex based flirting. You gotta flirt with them and give them attention, tease them about things.
Also stop being so in decisive.
When it’s time to make a decision, man up and say what you want. Like hey we having steak for dinner...and start making it. Then give her something to be in charge of.
Yeah! Take charge by cooking! That’s the ticket! 😉
Thanks for the video! I’m so glad I’m not the leader in my LTR. Never wanted to be and I have a man who demands certain things and I do what he wants and I want to. 17 years not married and things are pretty good. Still have genuine desire on both sides.
I agree with Troy Francis, keep courting her as long as possible, without living together. Best advice in the whole chat 👍🏼👏🏼
wish I had learned this all earlier in life. Would have made such a difference in relationships and business. The whole mentality of scarcity vs. abundance. Not chasing. The power of saying 'no' and not feeling guilty. Keeping options open. My goodness.
The number one quality men should look for in a woman is not beauty but a good heart.
Truth
My gf, whom I’ve been with for more than a year, always seeks attention online from both Instagram and Facebook posting provocative status to hit her on dm. I brought up the topic while we were on call, she got pissed off and tried to close the topic by yapping then I told her straight that if she continues or post like that one more time I’ll walk away with my self respect and dignity that I don’t want to be in a committed LTR while she’s sourcing attention from other guys like that. After I told her this, she remained quite for a while and started talking in a lower tone of voice.
Guys, it’s very powerful to have the mind and ability to walk away.
Walk……..
Away….
Right on the money Paul! "Women love to not take personal responsibility if given the opportunity"..right on!
God if this isnt the truth!!!
Jesus Christ, if you put the amount of effort it takes to maintain genuine desire from your woman in a LTR/marriage into solely yourself and your personal goals, you'd be able to accomplish anything! To say the juice isnt worth the sqeeze is a severe understatement. To every man who is still willing to go for LTRs/marriage in this day and age, I wish you good luck. You're going to need it!
Facts!!
@@chanceklein I think about this sometimes too, but at the end of the day. I think what’s going to happen when I’m older. I want a best friend
@@alexsampsell3950
Whaaaaat!! best friend??
I promise you she will not be our best friend at that moment. We al die alone, but you need not feel lonely.
Remember the amount of luck to even BE the 30% of marriages that don't end up in divorce. What you're saying is that you know you will find that unicorn that no one else has found. There is a reason they have not found them.
@@ggrthemostgodless8713 First of all don't just pull numbers out of your ass. Second, it is rational for a man to want to have a partner well into his old age. You may plan financially for economic security like the original post is stating but without family to share your wealth with, what is the meaning of having all that wealth. You can't take it with you when you die.
@@alexsampsell3950 as soon as she realize she has to spend a dime or wipe your ass gonna throw your ass in a assissted living home and/or divorce you and take half of what you needed to retire with. the risk is just too great..............good luck
Man this is beyond true and life changing
Aaron clarey at 12 minutes in. He was literally saying someone who compliments your life. Rollos wife says “Your my husband I go where u go”. Someone who believes in you 1000% and has just as much faith she’s following a man who always has her best interest at.
Everyone interested on each others veiws, this is what a mature conversation looks like
This was great! Didn’t get around to reading Rollo’s books before but now gotta check them out
My ex husband's mom/dad dynamic was that the mom was the breadwinner, the dad was the stay at home. Now, I loved them very much. However, my ex husband never stepped up to lead the marriage. I urged him to workout, make the decisions, just lead. I wanted that. But it never happened, I felt so masculine in that relationship. I had to leave because Im just not that way.
I hope you told him that so he can work on it
Hey, having the same problem
The only time my girlfriend drives if I've been drinking. And I tell her hey I've been drinking. Your driving. I don't let her say you have been drinking let me drive. By me telling her it shows that I am still in control and im making a responsable decision.
She sounds like she doesn’t have a brain in her head if she has to be told that she’s driving when you’re drunk -either that or a trained dog
Anytime I give her an order it shows I’m in control..
@55:30 "Pre-whipped" BEST description of the reality EVER! Nice one, Rollo
A very helpful round-table, thanks for the diverse shots of advice!
7 very respectful men, no drama !
Excellent material..you always refer to the 20s -40s age guys. What about the over 50s-60s men who are divorced and or widowed. Appreciate it if you would do a video session about dating and LTR RELATIONSHIPS in that age bracket.
Just to encourage you a bit. I met my actual gf 10 years ago. Now I'm 62:-) and she is 30
Ryan Stone murdered it at the end! Solid discussion.
What you didn't like myrons entry level high value male explanation?😂
This award a great 6 pack of information. thank you gentlemen
Apex Mindset is on fire. The level of truth he it talking about is something every 15-year-old boy should be schooled on.
Rollo was picky about who he married based on some good old fashioned common sense.
The information I hear come from you guys I was given by my old school Mexican mother......”get you a younger woman, no women with kids, no women that have been around the block, meet her parents and see how that are.
Your lucky you have a mother like that, mine taught me to be the very kind of men she would use and take advantage of
Yea, what Rian said there at the last is gold.
Women hold the balance of power legally if you are financially involved, married, or have children with them. The majority of them know this and make the most of it. The only counter is to have done the groundwork prior to this shift, and then to try and game them from an 'evolutionary' standpoint.
Can you make a video on how a woman can maintain desire from a man in a LTR? I’m a female watcher and hope to be a wife who adds substance to my husbands life rather than make things worse for him!
This is pretty easy: keep it tight! 😂
Exercise regularly, learn to cook clean home cooked meal, be physically active, explore and develop some hobbies (preferably low cost), develop reading as a hobby(that will make you way more interesting once you have explored each other throughly through sex)
Maintain your looks and youth. Support him in decisions. Promote intimacy and affection towards him. Above all be trustworthy and honest. Be a good mother. Always try to improve yourself so he won't look else where.
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke I do all this already! Shout out to my cultural parents haha - thanks for your comment
@@jamesbond5285 thats great advice!! thank you!!
3 years LTR. I just want to say that all this advice these gentlemen give is 100% on point. A women is designed to have the male lead, by lead I mean be always on your frame, call the shots, dont be the nice guy, never get emotional or yell at her, make her orgasm and treat her every now and then to a nice gift. Key thing is to be successful in life and never drop your guard with women.
PURE GOLD GENTLEMEN! 🙌
Good Panel, again time well spent. Thanks guys.
Stop dating, start loving.
Dread doesn't "keep her in check" as Richard stated at 24:30, it motivates her to invest more in the relationship (as Rollo pointed out), to make more effort to keep him. The enemy of any LTR is complacency, leading to boredom and contempt. The complacent guy slides into beta and the complacent gal turns cold, both neglecting what could have been a decent relationship.
You guys are doing what the education system should do.
Don't get a woman who has even a whiff of feminism.
Caleb Gibbs
Good advice.
There’s a difference between the rare women who are man-haters and women who just believe women are equal humans. All my life, I’ve never once met a man-hater IRL. Real equalists like me just want men to love and appreciate women as much as I love and appreciate men🤍
My wife did, I red pilled her... she's actually much happier now as well. Just bring up the wall, and the reality that women face when they sleep around and have multiple partners
@@juneelle370 when it comes down to it, the feminist indoctrination has been a part of western society for so long and pushed on people that many women (and men) don't even know that they are brainwashed. Most women have no idea that they are fundamentally screwed up. I however am fortunate. My wife was raised in a traditional Asian culture. She's AMAZING has has never had any feminist tendencies. 13 years and 6 kids later, we couldn't be more happy.
@@juneelle370 "rare" women who are man haters. Stfu liar
Gotta maintain focus on your purpose without compromise. If she's a long term ride or die chick she's gonna fall in line or fall back. Regardless of what happens you win.
Married 24 years. You both have to agree to these two things, agree to be married and agree to be happy. You can be married and not happy and happy and not married. If you both are focused on those goals you can keep it going. Much of it has to be with me respecting myself, being driven and improving myself all the time to keep her interest and she sees me moving forward in life and keeping my SMV up, she’s compelled to work on herself. It helps her friends think I’m attractive :).
@Replicant2600...sounds pretty practical and sound advice your giving there.... I think a lot of men are missing the point. Women ( healthy ones) are innately submissive around authentic Males who are unquestionably, providers & protectors. It's in our DNA. We cant help it. ....But, so many men are playing a role and trying to be something they aren't naturally born to be.
I love how they just pop in and out like just another Saturday afternoon with the boys 😂 we need brotherhood's like this
Powerful message! Thanks, Gents.
My wife once cheated on me a few years ago. At counseling the (female) counselor told us my 3 month relapse I had after a surgery was worse than my wife cheating. Other than that slip been clean over ten years. I thought that was ridiculous and never been more pissed.
That is horse shit. I hope you left her.
I’m a woman and I strongly disagree with the female counsellor.
I take it that Rollo was very RP aware before he even decided to marry.
In case if his current wife would not have been the natural follower, he would just have moved on searching for another one.
@Luis exactly.
Also, Rollo was surrounded by hot strippers during his DJing days and related stuff before meeting his wife.
@Amit How do you think he learned so much about women so quickly? It’s all that experience before his wife
@@VwapTrader I agree.
We all knew of a mini version of Rollo back in our BP days, but no one had distilled and communicated the female "mystique" like Rollo.
Most of the "players" ultimately became a beta after their ltr and or marriage.
The experience prior to marriage is necessary but so is what one does with the knowledge AFTER marriage.
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Droppn gems 💎 all over the place. Great talk
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Rule # 1: Always be able to walk away.
Rule # 2: Always be *willing* to walk away.
It doesn't mean being an asshole. It simply means you place your self-respect over all risks associated with leaving the relationship (especially marriage).
If these two rules are internalized as the foundation for your romantic relationship/s (as they should be, since these rules apply to all aspects of life), she will *intrinsically know* and she will respect you. Respect, in my opinion, is the bedrock of all non-physical attraction in all relationships. LTR's are no exception.
Yeah, I already fucked up on number one. Now I have a huge hole to dig myself out of.
Goes for women too...always be able to wslk away and always be willing to walk away if HE is a jerk. People have to have deep respect for each other period. Nobodybis the oss or incjarge of the other IF you maintain your ability to walk away. Needy is decidedly unattractive....inn a male or a female.
Rollo really rocked in this ep.
Wisdom, widdom, widom. Im feeling like jackpot watching these gentlemen spitting truth. 👍👍👍from 49:00 great info, view - what it should be. Will come back, this is too good to be true.
Thx a lot for tons of valuable insights and practical recommendations!
Pretty good vid. I've been married for 24 years and it's mostly been excellent. But all marriages and relationships go through shit. Every single one. But how you, as a man, handle that stress and maintain your frame, your calm, and your ability to move through hard times, determines whether a relationship will last. She'll follow your lead if your lead is true. She'll buck, hard, if the line you are taking is false, is forced, is not really who you are. I have a late-teen son. We've talked about what it means to be an honest, responsible man and when that is likely to happen. That happens when you decide to take as much control of your life as you can possibly think about. Because if you don't, someone else will.
time stamps on long videos would help watching
Thanks for the good info Paul!
Great show!
What Rollo says at 49:00 is 100% accurate! That was how I was brought up. Trying to kill that blue pill part in me. Its not easy but I can't go back since I already swallowed the red pill
You are only one Bj away from the plantation. Always remember that.
Captain your ship. Maintain ever increasing expectations for both of you.
Great show. Awesome info!
For the women out there, if you love who you're with, they turn into who you love. If you're trying to turn your man into the perfect God, who and what you don't appreciate, depreciates in value, including your man. Conversely, who and what you appreciate, appreciates in value, simple law.
It's funny that my wife friends want to control me through my wife.
It's not funny. They need to mind their own business..
My wife corrects anyone who tries 😆 i love it, it's like "baby girl... handle daddies light work" lol
@@impactproformance That's better. My wife was adopted from orphanage and is afraid from getting refused and people influence her. I am trying to put envy on her and se with open eyes what really friends are.
@@impactproformance keeper!
Yikes
Easy focus on yourself and don't let her to disrespect you. Don't work hard for her
So many truth bombs. Thanks guys
i find it very simple.. be her Rock and she will be your joy..always rate her status of attraction towards you and remember the courtship never ends..
I've been married 16 years. Courtesy is critical to LTRs. Both ways. I've always believed that the only reason I would marry is if I truly loved the gal. If you don't or marry for other reasons, your done...its just a matter of time. Courtesy is critical. Did I mention that courtesy is critical....
This was the superbowl of manosphere
01:16:19 Rollo drops the bombs. So many great ideas and wisdom right there boys [edited the time stamp]
Save me from myself MOMMY...haha.
Rollo's clear and blunt thoughts and writings has had a deep impact on me every since I found TRM.
This presentation was particularly valuable. We all need to have the basics hammered in before we try anything advanced. Without the big picture and full understanding, any actions you take could get flipped over without knowing "what to do next". I, personally, am implementing all of your recommendations little by little. Once I see something working, I move on to the next change.
Rollo, you used the word "Atomized". I suggest that you read the novel "Atomized" by Michel Houellebecq. In fact, I recommend the book to all of you. It is a cynical accurate look at the fruits of the sexual revolution and how it has debased us all. If you like this novel he has more.
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Thnx for that! Esp. Rollo, Rian & Paul. Exept to that ridic claim that a high value male should make 100k/year to 'qualify' for a LRT. BS.
This whole episode covered what to do/how to be before you get into an LTR. Was hoping for advice on how to maintain frame etc. In LTR where women have more leverage because it's not easy for you to walk away. Also hire to get frame back if you've lost it.
Edit.... just watched to the end and good stuff is near the end.
Very valuable. Thanks gents
I like the dance partner image~ the man leads, the woman follows. I do think attraction lies in physics shape but intimacy as well. And that's not just physical. It's intimacy in sharing a life equally, sharing feelings, hopes, dreams, fears, secrets....it's being completely bare and open to one another~ no holds barred.
Yes! My Fiancé and I out-do each other in the giving department. It's a complete joy and we actually get off on doing for the other. I know Apex said make sure the woman is a little ahead in the giving department (to the guy) ~I'm good with that ☺️💕
We are both natural givers, so it works!
Richs beard looks like an extension of his sweater 👌🏻😂
Nice dicussion guys
Great content! Thanks for sharing 🤙🏽
Clarey with good knowledge