The Midnight Coup Is Simply Amazing - Destiny 2 Into the Light

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  • @Shxlbyyy
    @Shxlbyyy 5 місяців тому +87

    I focused this hand canon yesterday and turned in 200 tokens, I got 6 out of 20 rolls for the hand canon 🙃

    • @theogknight2292
      @theogknight2292 5 місяців тому +20

      I think the attunement system doesn't work (at least as well) for the chest compared to the mode itself

    • @robotninja530
      @robotninja530 5 місяців тому +2

      Ha! I did the same with 180 trophies and only got one...

    • @advancegeo2986
      @advancegeo2986 5 місяців тому +2

      @@robotninja530 in the beginning of the even when i was focusing using the chest it seemed like i was only getting the weapon i attuned for now it seems way less likely for some reason maybe they borked the drop rates or something behind the scenes

    • @drxdrgaming
      @drxdrgaming 5 місяців тому +5

      @@advancegeo2986or maybe you e unlocked other weapons so your pool is diluted.

    • @advancegeo2986
      @advancegeo2986 5 місяців тому +1

      @@drxdrgaming idk I did all the weapon quests to unlock all the attunements before grinding out the weapons I wanted so I dont think thats it

  • @foemonkey123
    @foemonkey123 5 місяців тому +31

    trying to grind this and mountaintop. i actually want to play the game and grind. this is a feeling i haven’t had in soooo long when playing destiny

    • @slaytallicadeththrax4547
      @slaytallicadeththrax4547 5 місяців тому +2

      Amen brother

    • @chrisborges7344
      @chrisborges7344 5 місяців тому +1

      This is what it was like before crafting.

    • @FlashesSoccer011
      @FlashesSoccer011 5 місяців тому

      The grind is awful. The attunement doesn't actually work, the shiny weapons are basically non existent, they are time limited, you can't re-set shax which means you stop getting engrams, and actually going to 50 waves is a complete waste of time.
      Even with the changes they announced, it's still better to just do 10 waves and then leave. They have royaly screwed up the loot system for this game mode.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah and u dont have to play a dumb raid or pvp to get good stuff. My only problem is 50 waves of onslaught gets old real fast... Im board aft about 15-20 waves. I wish they would change that or make this a real endless hoard mode.

    • @Mattznick
      @Mattznick 5 місяців тому +2

      @@chrisborges7344 you guys keep screaming that crafting ruined the grind when the grind still isn't great maybe crafting shouldn't be for raid and dungeon weapons sure but making seasonal weapons crafted and giving them perks to be good enough is fine and no i don't think brave weapons should've been craftable either it is nice to have them to grind in a horde mode like onslaught

  • @Sangomah
    @Sangomah 5 місяців тому +12

    Compared to my Austringer, this does not feel as a smooth. I'm not sure if this is a moving target on controller thing that I might not take into account for how the gun feels for you, but for mnk, my Austringer just feels better. Looking at stats as well, with zen and eots procced (which happens every dual really), my austringer sits at 68 range, 78 stability, 77 handling (Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Eye of the Storm, Zen Moment).
    Hand cannons are kinda like snipers in that there are so many that you just need to find the one that feels the best for your personally, and for the Midnight Coup I'm not vibing with it right now. I have yet to get the MT/Zen roll though so I will hold out on definite conclusion until I get that :D

    • @otisdriftwood7094
      @otisdriftwood7094 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, crafted austringer is great. The combo of EOTS and zen moment is insane. Mine has 76 range and 71 stability. I'm running full bore for the range bump because enhanced EOTS and ZM both give stabiltiy. It's a dueling monster and super stable with great range.

  • @polarislance8818
    @polarislance8818 5 місяців тому +10

    Why tf is midnight coup not a lightweight frame hybrid??? The stats fit the bill. I would gladly take less ae or stability etc if it meant we got the bonus.

  • @nadirbaitsaleem7270
    @nadirbaitsaleem7270 5 місяців тому +21

    Midnight Coup was my baby back in the day, still my highest kill counter.
    Happy it's back!

  • @Herrsch_
    @Herrsch_ 5 місяців тому +59

    I love Midnight Soup. Broccoli Cheddar is my favorite
    The gun is pretty neat too I guess

    • @jhiatt1516
      @jhiatt1516 5 місяців тому +1

      May as well go all the way, get it in a sourdough bread bowl!

    • @zmerc
      @zmerc 5 місяців тому

      I’m calling it that forever now

  • @DeuceTreyz
    @DeuceTreyz 5 місяців тому +2

    20 hrs using diff rolls... by FAR Explosive Payload / One For All the best PvE roll

  • @Spoooodyman
    @Spoooodyman 5 місяців тому +7

    I also have the firefly+one for all pve roll. My timelost fatebringer has officially been retired.

    • @KayronTho
      @KayronTho 5 місяців тому

      Explosive payload + frenzy still nuts

  • @namememagic
    @namememagic 5 місяців тому +1

    The midnight coup really makes you feel like a conspirator.

  • @HeyJack-kl5yj
    @HeyJack-kl5yj 5 місяців тому +3

    Don't like explosive payload rn, still reduces your damage compared to not using the perk. I can literally kill further without that perk.
    I don't feel like the range is a problem on this handcannon, it's 100% the stability killing it for me. I'd rather just use austringer or eyasluna. Also, eyasluna has 80 aim assist by base, however it has sights so its actually 85. Only 5 less than midnight coup.
    Midnight coup feels alright, but other handcannons feel better. Some people will still use midnight coup for the feel, but its not for me personally. Imo its solid.

  • @Gynan
    @Gynan 5 місяців тому +2

    Austringer is still better as a craftable HC. Rose is still better as a 140. Midnight Coup's saving grace is solely its base AE stat and its weapon model. I have a feeling it's just gonna be the flavor of the week, and that's it.

    • @TrueVanguard
      @TrueVanguard  5 місяців тому +4

      I’m not a fan of “it’s better” without substantiating it. Like I said, Coup had more aa, ammo in the mag, ae, and reload speed while also having juiced dueling perks. It’s fine to prefer something else, but it’s also important to be objective and recognize the areas where another thing shines.

  • @scottparrott5674
    @scottparrott5674 5 місяців тому +20

    Austringer still feels better on controller with zen eye of the storm 68 range 88 stability with those perks hard to beat.

    • @theveryamericaneagle3657
      @theveryamericaneagle3657 5 місяців тому +1

      Midnight high aim assist an moving target zen is also a good combo.

    • @bennipaulhinasi_bphn7943
      @bennipaulhinasi_bphn7943 5 місяців тому +1

      @@theveryamericaneagle3657just got that roll and it’s so smooth

    • @theveryamericaneagle3657
      @theveryamericaneagle3657 5 місяців тому +1

      @bennipaulhinasi_bphn7943 I want that honestly I got moving opening which isn't bad but I need the zen.

    • @bennipaulhinasi_bphn7943
      @bennipaulhinasi_bphn7943 5 місяців тому +1

      @@theveryamericaneagle3657 wish it had more range tho I got fluted and arrowhead 😂💔

    • @KayronTho
      @KayronTho 5 місяців тому

      Aim assist is what makes the coup different.

  • @Corion2121
    @Corion2121 5 місяців тому +1

    10:39 But I have over 3,000 kills on my original. That can’t be ignored.🤨🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @sladevalen
    @sladevalen 5 місяців тому +16

    I am normally very bad at using hand cannons in pvp, and avoid them like the plague. I crafted Optative, and got a pretty good roll on Midnight Coup, and these 2 hand cannons have felt infinitely better than every other hand cannon. Im finally enjoying hand cannons like the rest of the world!

    • @charlesabuah2331
      @charlesabuah2331 5 місяців тому

      I’m in a similar boat because I don’t feel comfortable using handcannons, but I’m quite cozy with Crimson and 180s.
      Optative feels particularly nice, and I have two crafted for PVP (Rapid Hit/Kill Clip and Keep Away/Golden Tricorn). I haven’t tried Midnight Coup in the crucible yet, though.

  • @shinkenrock
    @shinkenrock 5 місяців тому +5

    moving target and zen moment is just so crisp, I got one with more stability than range but I aint complaining.

  • @Anchor-Supreme
    @Anchor-Supreme 5 місяців тому +6

    90 AA is pretty crazy, but those low range and stability stats are just moving me away from liking it. I was hoping Bungie would make its stats a little more in-line with more recent 140s, but they instead decided to keep it around the old 150 stat package.

    • @b0mberman
      @b0mberman 5 місяців тому

      They really should have made it 150. Give us a reason to chase it!!

  • @xyry4148
    @xyry4148 5 місяців тому +1

    And than i get my 73 Range slodeshot/eots Rose for a spin and within 5 min every Midnight gets trashed into legendary shards....🤣😉

  • @Valhaluke
    @Valhaluke 5 місяців тому +2

    I dislike 140's in pvp due to the kick from the recoil often covering my opponents body to the point that i have difficulty tracking the target. Hoping zen moment on this is enough to get a feeling closer to 180's, which i only use because of the recoil.

    • @charlesabuah2331
      @charlesabuah2331 5 місяців тому +1

      Same here. I'm way more comfortable using the 180s than 140s due to the difference in the recoil pattern.
      That’s why I’m anticipating Luna’s Howl joining the Brave arsenal. Even though it’s now a 140, it retains the 180 frame, which should make me feel at home using it.

  • @kooletron174c3
    @kooletron174c3 5 місяців тому +1

    Pali is king of em all sucks for people that can't get it

  • @darthspoompls
    @darthspoompls 5 місяців тому +3

    I use to only ever use auto rifles in my primary slot but now that this hc is back I got rid of all of em lol

  • @Gruzbee
    @Gruzbee 5 місяців тому

    Dude, it's like you're fighting against bots in this video. Whereas I play PVP and end up against a 6 stack of sweats who are flopping, twisting, spinning, doing cartwheels and turning me into their used pleasure sock! I must know your topsy kretts!

  • @robbay8610
    @robbay8610 5 місяців тому +1

    My Timelost Fatebringer has been finally powercrept by Midnight Coup. Hooray

  • @kipp14
    @kipp14 5 місяців тому +1

    Recluse feels like a more available and slightly upgraded funnelweb for pve where as both lunas howl and midnight coup are looking like good pve/pvp hybrids if your lucky in your farms.

  • @SenatorStink
    @SenatorStink 5 місяців тому +1

    I am so excited for these guns, I haven't been this excited for gumdrops in destiny since d1. I got a gold shiny Coup with Moving target Zen moment and then a shiny gold Succession with Snapshot Moving target AR fluted and a handling MW. It felt like drugs 😂

  • @JGSH13
    @JGSH13 5 місяців тому

    In pvp I’ve been running explosive payload/desperate measures with weighted throwing knife. It’s pretty good. Still looking for zen moment though.

  • @pirate_duck4985
    @pirate_duck4985 5 місяців тому

    Still trying to get a roll with decent Barrel, Mag & MW. Something feels a bit "off" for me & it's bugging me haha.
    I have a Timelost Fatebringer that honestly I don't think anything else is gunna top. I NEED a Craftable one. I've got Fluted, Accurized, EP, EOTS with Stability MW. I use an Adept Range Mod in PVP & I end up with 69 Range, 72 Stability, 73 Handling & 49 Reload. It's an absolute BEAST.

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ 5 місяців тому

    We are experiencing Fact Creep once again and it shouldn’t be seen as specific to any one creator.
    The last very memorable case of Fact Creep was when Bungie took away enhanced targeting helmet mods.
    At that time we had standard which was +10 aim assist and enhanced which was + 15.
    So we were all grumpy that the enhanced ones were leaving but NOT TO WORRY! Because now ALL targeting mods were equal to enhanced! Yippee!
    But NOW Cool Guy is ASSURING us that this NEVER HAPPENED and that targeting mods are only worth +10. WTHeck?? Fact Creep.
    No here we see Moving Target which a year or two ago brought breaking news that the +10 to aim assist is passive! Always active! Yippee!
    But now here today we’re told by someone I absolutely consider as reliable that no, it only gives +10 when you’re moving.
    Fact Creep. WT actual Heck is true??

  • @deankelly5760
    @deankelly5760 5 місяців тому +1

    Desperate measures in pve is incredible everybody. It’s extremely easy to get 30% damage buff for 7 seconds that refreshes fully on ANY kill. Please ignore TV and go desperate measures. No hate to TV I just think he overlooked desperate measures.

    • @TrueVanguard
      @TrueVanguard  5 місяців тому +3

      But like I said, Firefly procs One for All for 10 seconds for a %35 buff. Desperate Measures is objectively inferior. Less DMG buff, shorter duration, less uptime.

    • @juansantamaria7476
      @juansantamaria7476 5 місяців тому

      I think they are both great. DM replenishes your melee or grenade energy too depending on class type

  • @majora919
    @majora919 5 місяців тому +2

    my only issue with midnight is it needs stability like a man lost in the desert needs water

    • @fotis3v480
      @fotis3v480 5 місяців тому

      52 with smallbore and it's gonna be 57 when enhanced.
      Together with zen and the aim assist it's okay if you are experienced with HCs tbh.

  • @randomguy1706
    @randomguy1706 5 місяців тому +1

    Its OP, headshot hits on red bars are FUCKING 20k dmg. That is the HIGHEST out of ALL handcannons

  • @multimus133
    @multimus133 5 місяців тому

    This gun was not meant for PvP, and anyone using it in PvP is actively handicapping themselves. Range and stability matter above all else. There are mods and exotics for handling and reload, not range and stability. Midnight Coup has 40 range and 45 stability. By comparison, Austringer has 46 Range and 59 Stability, Fatebringer has 46 range 57 stability, Eyaslune has 51 range and 64 stability, even Kept Confidence has 46 range 56 stability. Midnight Coup is great in PvE, probably best in slot, but to say the gun is amazing in PvP when so many other handcannons statistically outclass it is ridiculous.

  • @exxy9931
    @exxy9931 5 місяців тому

    I really don’t want to grind for an RNG 5/5 when I have a crafted Austringer, a 4.5 of a Rose, Ace, Thorn, Last Word, Eyasluna, Fatebringer and Hawkmoon all in the same slot. It’s a nice f2p option but Fatebringer, Hawkmoon and Rose are all f2p as well.

  • @TrueArt_1
    @TrueArt_1 5 місяців тому

    Here’s a pretty funny roll and not a god roll by any means: Hammerforged, Accurized, Shoot to loot, Opening shot, Range MW for 70 base range. 75 with shoot to loot enhanced in Final Shape. With Opening Shot’s +25 range, you have 100 range for your opening shot haha

  • @nicholasgrogan856
    @nicholasgrogan856 5 місяців тому

    Eyasluna has 85 aim assist cuz it has sights which give 5 aim assist. 90 aim assist is really good yes but moving target is not needed becuz of that. One hc targeting gets you to 100 AA. Multiple hcs can get to 100 AA with targeting mods. Thorn, Eyasluna, Rose, Hawkmoon, etc.. Saying (even in a joking manner) that Midnight Coup is "almost broken" for any reason is a joke. No hc in this game is broken. Every sidearm and almost every smg in this game actually is broken.

  • @ImJaspy
    @ImJaspy 5 місяців тому

    The problem with using legendary kinetic primaries in PvE not counting stasis or strand but for me is they feel like you’re being held back by not using an elemental primary

  • @reylopez5410
    @reylopez5410 5 місяців тому +1

    Mid

  • @stevegaspar
    @stevegaspar 5 місяців тому

    I need to focus the MC I got the shiny one from the quest and it's definitely hot garbage in the crucible. Will never use that one again but ya will try for some other rolls. Right now my Rose with slide shot and explosive rounds is 100000x better

  • @Dr_Nut
    @Dr_Nut 5 місяців тому

    Love your content and you’re generally a fair reviewer, but saying Eyasluna has 80 aim assist is a liiiiitle misleading given that all of its sights give 5 aim assist so it has 85 aim assist on 100% of rolls. Nitpick I know but just wanted to say it

  • @DriedOreos
    @DriedOreos 5 місяців тому

    EP does not give u more range. EP actually now give u less range than if u didn’t have it on now bc of the new sandbox. Tho EP does give u further 4 tap potential but less 3 tap potential.

  • @theantagonist2960
    @theantagonist2960 5 місяців тому

    Imma be honest, I don't like this gun. I don't know what it is but it just doesn't feel good to me. This handcannon feels terrible. Because 180s it's the worst handcannon I have ever used

  • @sportsguy23
    @sportsguy23 5 місяців тому

    I've been farming the crap out of this and have gotten Attrition Orbs frenzy 7 times!!! Wtf Bungie???

  • @Reapers-Riot585
    @Reapers-Riot585 5 місяців тому

    If I get attrition orbs one more time I swear. Still haven't had a single drop with either zen moment OR moving target. Gun still feels amazing. If I could just get that roll.

  • @musicaltarrasque
    @musicaltarrasque 5 місяців тому

    I got the 5/5, duels great, my only complaint is the sound of the gun,
    it sounds like 180, almost like a bb gun.

  • @saxdrummerjp
    @saxdrummerjp 5 місяців тому

    I didn't know why everyone was hyping up midnight coup coming back. Then I got one, and I understood.

  • @hydractra
    @hydractra 5 місяців тому

    Coup just needed slide shot in the 3rd column, otherwise it’s just a worse rose with zen moment

  • @fatboydave8643
    @fatboydave8643 5 місяців тому

    Is it me or does anyone else prefer stability over impact, this is the reason I only use 180 hand cannons because they basically stay in one place rather than dance all over the place when firing, yes I know there are people that can't stand 180's but each to their own I guess

  • @Dynasty1818
    @Dynasty1818 5 місяців тому

    I don't know if it's the aim assist stat or what, but this gun feels so snappy and accurate. Sounds great, and for some reason in PVE I just can't seem to miss headshot after headshot.

  • @zeroeum5323
    @zeroeum5323 5 місяців тому

    I love the sound from this gun but how is this gonna compete with Rose, ace, hawkmoon, fatebringer?

  • @charlestaylor1214
    @charlestaylor1214 5 місяців тому

    It feels good but not as good as rose nor warden’s adept but I got moving rampage with it rose with sideshot explosive and law with enlightened with frenzy and that on controller feels insane

  • @FatsDominic
    @FatsDominic 5 місяців тому

    Ken trem and attrition makes orbs like crazy. Could replace some fragments in builds.

  • @mustangmike6421
    @mustangmike6421 5 місяців тому

    Yeah pretty done with destiny I spent alot of time farming these weapons just for them to be useless and taken away just to have to spend more money on the gun I already had, then the next update they probably will make them useless again.

  • @bobbybushe2389
    @bobbybushe2389 5 місяців тому

    chasing the kinetic+explosive...got kinetic+ firefly so far.

  • @ZensivYT
    @ZensivYT 5 місяців тому

    It’s great but still loses to rose and that’s comparing my 5/5 midnight to my 4/5 rose

  • @crasus735
    @crasus735 5 місяців тому

    I have this exact roll and it is very good. I have to be honest though, Kept Confidence just feels better to me.

  • @turbotegs2102
    @turbotegs2102 5 місяців тому

    Why is everyone saying this weapons is amazing? The stats are awful compared to rose.

  • @rob3497
    @rob3497 5 місяців тому

    Sounds like everyone forgot hawkmoon is there. No gun holds a candle to a hawkmoon

  • @davidhache1267
    @davidhache1267 5 місяців тому

    I left the game for a while and I returned to hear everyone talking about Zen moment. Seems like something they will nerf soon

  • @deusmeodeia
    @deusmeodeia 5 місяців тому

    Exist any difference with the bright version for a non bright version?

  • @Orbitalbomb
    @Orbitalbomb 5 місяців тому

    midnight coup slander? you really need to check your internet bubble

  • @envy22418
    @envy22418 5 місяців тому +1

    Stop sleeping on attrition orbs. It pairs nicely with kinetic tremors. I already have 1000 kills with it

    • @trev7983
      @trev7983 5 місяців тому

      It’s not bad but there are way better perks in that slot

    • @envy22418
      @envy22418 5 місяців тому

      @@trev7983 for me and my builds it’s my god roll for this weapon. Don’t need it for anything else because nothing will replace my fatebringer

  • @Yeetus__Deletus__PS
    @Yeetus__Deletus__PS 5 місяців тому

    Just a small anecdote
    Eyasluna drops with sights so it always gets plus 5 aim assist, so 85 like the rose

  • @Brian-ch6hg
    @Brian-ch6hg 5 місяців тому

    Glad you were able to get some to drop and they were worth the effort. Thanks for the breakdown!

  • @st0nedpenguin
    @st0nedpenguin 5 місяців тому

    The big issue for me is the perk pool is just...boring for PVP.

  • @bannedmann4469
    @bannedmann4469 5 місяців тому

    Should’ve been a 150 with LW..

  • @thermalrain_yt9725
    @thermalrain_yt9725 5 місяців тому

    Range is by far the most obnoxiously overrated stat in all of video games

  • @RLaSalle50
    @RLaSalle50 5 місяців тому

    I somehow haven’t played the pantheon map for like 6 months 😅

  • @Arshay
    @Arshay 5 місяців тому

    Does anyone know how to focus brave weapons beyond attuning?

  • @mug8122
    @mug8122 5 місяців тому

    Will mtashed come back for into the light? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @Lunarvandross
    @Lunarvandross 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for being an honest controller reviewer.

  • @capone5004
    @capone5004 2 місяці тому

    love your videos. i wish you had timestamps though.

  • @aaronyu4919
    @aaronyu4919 5 місяців тому

    does explosive payload proc zen moment faster?

  • @hida_berserker
    @hida_berserker 5 місяців тому

    That's fine but how will it kill forerunner abusers ner :)

  • @jordankibbee3441
    @jordankibbee3441 5 місяців тому

    How do you feel about lunas howl coming back?

  • @brandish4952
    @brandish4952 5 місяців тому

    Snapshot sights on rose woth moving target destroys you guys easy

  • @grayman7809
    @grayman7809 5 місяців тому

    i got a shiny midnight coup with smallbore, accurized rounds, and a range masterwork. as for the perks, i can swap between firefly + kinetic tremors for pve and moving target + zen moment for pvp. what an incredible day

    • @lewidris
      @lewidris 5 місяців тому

      How do you get the swappable perks?

  • @scottparrott5674
    @scottparrott5674 5 місяців тому +1

    Mightnight kew

  • @marlonphoenix5607
    @marlonphoenix5607 5 місяців тому

    Why does no one include fate bringer in these reviews

  • @pvloff-l9n
    @pvloff-l9n 5 місяців тому

    10:31 "Never been good in PVP"
    Year 1 Trials?

  • @itzsteve2594
    @itzsteve2594 5 місяців тому

    haha you'd be good in sales

  • @ItzzBrandonn
    @ItzzBrandonn 5 місяців тому

    I havent gotten it to drop yet gonna focus mountain top then this wepaon

  • @Telesgoooo
    @Telesgoooo 5 місяців тому

    Laughs in rapid explosive rose.

  • @meandemeanor9034
    @meandemeanor9034 5 місяців тому

    I know coup, is pronounced cou, but I'm finding it so funny. Cou in the north east of Brazil means bum hole. Haha.

  • @ThaAlecman
    @ThaAlecman 5 місяців тому +1

    I hate hand cannons. That said, this one impressed me when I played with it.

    • @charlesabuah2331
      @charlesabuah2331 5 місяців тому

      What made using Midnight Coup different from other handcannons?

    • @Arshay
      @Arshay 5 місяців тому

      @@charlesabuah2331 It's the easiest hc to land head shots with I've ever used. I dunno - I've used them all and this is piss easy to crit with.

  • @dexxx25
    @dexxx25 5 місяців тому

    I have Moving Target and Opening Shot

  • @airo2theknee846
    @airo2theknee846 5 місяців тому

    Love the controller gameplay ❤

  • @GandalfDaBrown
    @GandalfDaBrown 5 місяців тому

    Does firefly proc kinetic tremors?

  • @WraithzulaUnited
    @WraithzulaUnited 5 місяців тому

    Just here to say, that skeet grenade kill was sick

  • @knightofavalon86
    @knightofavalon86 5 місяців тому

    I have an explosive/OFA roll thats very fun and hits HARD. I think it's the most damage you can get on a legendary 140, since the 15% from explosive and OFA work together.
    I miss the reload speed bonus though. I will definitely keep an eye out for Firefly/OFA or Firefly/Rampage

  • @IGuko1144
    @IGuko1144 5 місяців тому

    TV as an loyal honorary member of the Frontline Azure, I gotta be honest, you have weird looking thighs.

  • @tuyet4841
    @tuyet4841 5 місяців тому

    Explosive payload actually reduces your 3 hit kill range now, since crits matter more and the explosive portion can’t crit. It can probably help you get a 5 or maybe 4 shit more consistently and it’s still good from the flinching alone, but it’s actually a reduction in precision damage now

  • @ambulance_driver9477
    @ambulance_driver9477 5 місяців тому

    I like my 70 range with HF, accurized, Explosive Payload & rampage

  • @karma_kazie2154
    @karma_kazie2154 5 місяців тому

    I got one with frenzy and firely

  • @honeybadger1810
    @honeybadger1810 5 місяців тому

    Hot take, even with the recent buff, hand cannons often feel outclassed in pvp. The main thing is range. Fighting a prosecutor or a no time or a messenger can feel really bad sometimes, because in longer range fights it just feels like you’re getting destroyed, because you are. Even if you hit all crits you’re still getting out gunned even if you are just slightly out of your range. My exalted truth adept with 80+ range and ace of spades can compete at 34 meters but I have to pick my fights well, because prosecutor is hitting 37 meters easily, and most hand cannons don’t have that much range. Combine that with the slower time to kill and hand cannons just feel really bad. I mean, you can hit nearly 40 METERS with a Firefright, and nearly 39 with a prosecutor. I think hand cannons need an extra meter and a half across the board to compete.

  • @wenz5854
    @wenz5854 5 місяців тому

    ur forgetting abt spare rations

  • @jewel8858
    @jewel8858 5 місяців тому

    Miles needs to train with the reserves

  • @davedronski7749
    @davedronski7749 5 місяців тому +5

    I got a super shiny moving target Zen moment roll today and it is beautiful!

  • @ForTheViolence
    @ForTheViolence 5 місяців тому +4

    Easily the best handcannon in slot. Now we just need palindrome adept to drop again.

    • @foemonkey123
      @foemonkey123 5 місяців тому

      never got an adept palindrome cause i was taking a break from the game at that point and man do i wish i got one

    • @kooletron174c3
      @kooletron174c3 5 місяців тому

      Good thing I got an adept Pali when it was out . Best feeling hand cannon imo

    • @Akfourtysvn
      @Akfourtysvn 5 місяців тому

      Wouldn’t say it’s better than rose but it’s definitely an option.

    • @PastorJummp
      @PastorJummp 5 місяців тому +2

      It’s not even better than D.F.A, and that’s not even Best in slot. My D.F.A. Has 93 range 64 stability. I’ll use that over MC any day.

  • @bannedmann4469
    @bannedmann4469 5 місяців тому

    They weren’t lying back then TV. They were on ultra easy mode M&k. I really wish you and others would openly call out other content creators for advising while on the least played version. But good on you for staying roller, and not taking the easy road.

  • @lumas69
    @lumas69 5 місяців тому

    4:30 "and finally we have airborne effectiveness" as you vault that wall and clean with 100% landed airborne hip fire was fantastic timing. Kudos

  • @CharlesK485
    @CharlesK485 5 місяців тому

    It’s good but rose is still better