Charizard-Line Solo Challenge - Pokemon FireRed
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
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-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
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A small tip for Fire Red: There's a Dragon Claw TM in Victory road, in the same place as the rare candy. I feel it might be useful for the Elite 4 against Lance and just as neutral coverage.
And dclaw uses the sp atk wich is higher
was thinking as he mentioned the E4 that Charizard doesn't have it as bad as he's making it sound, early game is still pretty rough though.
That and a Modest Nature would definitely make the league better. Swap out Rock Slide and keep Rest / Sunny Day
Modest may be gd for E4 round 1 but neutral may be the best overall just due to the nature Charizard learns SD and that will be needed for R2 sweep
My charizard had sunny day , flamethrower , fly and dragon claw
You can get a Citrus Berry before Misty, it gives you 30HP when you are below 50%, and for in the 20-30 level range, it can be 30% of its health. It found on route 6, after you beat Nugget Bridge and the Rocket, but it can help a lot. I hope you see this comment if you don't know about this already (upvotes might help the visibility :) )
The number of times Blaze's impact is completely neglected in the final segment hurts me, especially since he acknowledges it right from the top
And again at the end, I feel ya
impact of being done in post
could probably also have the overlay dynamically adjusted so that it adjusts when blaze/overgrow/torrent is active, but *maybe* too much for these early videos
@@pommyadam I think you're right on both counts. I haven't a clue how complicated the change is to make on Scott's end, but I think the starters are usually the first pokemon to get playthroughs and except for them I can think of only... Scyther? That has a similar style ability. So probably better money elsewhere.
I noted that in my comment as well. If Scott was aware of Blaze during the run, he could've used it to his advantage in certain fights
I wish it would tell you when Blaze and similar abilities activate and effect an attack. I mean, we have to watch "[pokemon] broke the mold!" every time you send out a pokemon with Mold Breaker, the games are already a UI nightmare with too much redundant information and not enough extra elements to display passive things, Gamefreak could totally add that.
I know this was recorded a while ago. But this bugged me sooo much I just have to say. Using Rock Slide over Flamethrower while sun is active and in Blaze range... that hurt 😅anyway keep up the good content!
I guess I can procrastinate for another 44 minutes and 36 seconds
Bet you're still procrastinating right now
2 days in a row 😂
@@Tommy2704 bruh, ur so right for that
Lmaoooo😂
Also procrastinating lmao
22:50
That's not a damage roll - that's Blastoise's Torrent going into effect!
he just doesnt use (or know) about the blaze/torrent abilities .....
If he knew he would have realized that Flamethrower against Alakazam at 23:18 would have been a one hit, as he was wearing Charcoal AND had his ability up, and his attack was at -1... but I imagine he still thought of Alakazam as the same Special Wall as in Gen 1 (it's "only" 95 now) =D
"12 more resets than Butterfree" as a long time Charizard player... That was you man.
I guess we can name this video "The importance of Blaze"
It just really shows just how important the Starter Abilities (Overgrow, Blaze and Torrent) are, and it is a good reminder for myself to not forget about them.
But yeah, Kanto is very rough on Charizard, which was pretty much always the case. I still think it can achieve a respectable result once the playthrough is optimizied though.
Oh and I am also expecting Blastoise to crush the time of Venusaur and Charizard.
As an idea for future Charizard runs, you should really consider learning Substitute from the Move Tutor in Fuscia City. Substitute lets you do some pretty big things:
For one, it lets you live another hit from a problem mon, like being able to Sub up before facing Blastoise gives you extra time to hit it.
Two, it lets you much more easily and safely manipulate your HP into Blaze Range for extra firepower. Blastoise probably doesn't live two Blaze Charcoal Flamethrowers, and a sub would both give you an extra turn in on Blastoise to use two Flamethrowers, and give you extra damage on both Flamethrowers, and not just the second after being put into Blaze from an attack.
Three, it also blocks Intimidate and moves like Sand Attack/Featherdance, so you won't have to struggle as hard against pokemon like Arcanine.
Substitute was kind of a nothing move in Gen I, but by Gen III it is a proper staple move for solo runs, and the fact FRLG gives you a free tutor for it means it should be something to consider for most pokemon that can learn the move.
I totally agree. Substitute gives immensely good strategic options, the AI is pretty bad at playing around it, and together with weather and Blaze/Torrent you can set yourself up really quickly.
Yes this strategy was crazy in gen 3 competitive
True! Venusaur can sub seed… relatively slow but incredibly safe strategy.
The fact charmeleon survived a level 8 magnitude while underground is insane.
Just some friendly advice:
Dragon Claw TM is great Vs Lance and gives great neutral SPECIAL damage
Blaze blaze blaze. Gauging the damage you receive to proc plaze is crucial in some battles, especially if you're running Sunny Day. A 100% damage boost to STAB flamethrower is huge if you can get multiple hits with it
Please don't forget to consider the starters ability because the damage boost form being blow a third is something to consider
make sure to remember about Blaze, Torrent, and Overgrow. They can really come in handy
You completely forgot about the ability Blaze which mattered in some places, Lorelei being one such example.
For your next play through, dragon claw might be useful against Lance.
Great video! And as funny and completely understandable as the Blaze forgetfulness was, I think it would be seriously helpful in the follow-up for Bruno, specifically. If you plan the Lorelei fight similarly and end up in Blaze range again, you could just not heal before Bruno and it looks like you'd have five one-hits in a row. You could even stay there afterwards for the extra damage on that last beefy Agatha Gengar.
Fun fact: the Rival Alakazam in Silph has only one damaging move in Future Sight. Its other moves are Calm Mind, Reflect, and Recover.
Scott! Great video as always. If you catch a spearow and trade it for the farfetch'd in vermillion city, you won't have to catch two pokemon for cut and fly, as it can learn both! Thought you should know for future fire red runs ❤
If it's possible, it would be a cool addition to your overlay software if it would include the damage boost from abilities like Blaze when it's active 🙂 From some of your plays it looks like you might just have forgotten it, though - which is understandable as you're mostly playing gen 1.
Otherwise great content as always! 😊
If you use the detector at the spots where the snorlaxes lay (you have to stand on the spots) you can find leftovers. I don’t think that this is useful for a speedrun but perhaps this information may come useful in the future :D
Has anyone noticed that the Elite Four have a secondary type as part of their theme?
Lorelei is Ice, but her but her Lapras, Dewgong, Cloyster, and Slowbro are all Water, with the Slowbro being the only one on her team without an Ice typing.
Bruno is obviously fighting, but, in true Hiker fashion, also has rock/ground types in both Onix.
Agatha is a Ghost trainer, but her all of her Pokémon are also Poison. Her Golbat and Arbok give a haunting vibe.
And Lance is a dragon/flying trainer. Sure, all his Pokémon look like dragons, but Gyrados, Dragonite, and Aerodactyl are all flying types.
Using the versus seeker also increses enemy levels, going through the top row of bikers on cycling road and then use the vs seeker among all of them gives insane exp. Afterwards you biking down the lane defeating the ones you want, you can fly back up and use the seeker again at the top.
Also if you use the bike before entering cycling road you don't get stopped at the gate
Great videos as always Scott. Loving the more feedback we get on your overlay, program and more. Insigt is beautiful and cant wait to hear more
I know you already did this runs, but for gen 3 onwards, you can abuse habilities like Blaze and Torrent to sweep some battles. Charizard in special with Sunny Day, a charcoal and a Fire stab can be a destroyer of teams
Emerald and Leaf Green are my favorite pokemon games -- and Charizard is my favorite starter (yeah, I'm basic) ---- so happy these videos are publicly available now -- and loving the content ramp up
Left Green was my introduction to the Pokemon games and Charmander was my first Pokemon. Assuming I got this the year it came out 8 or 9 year old 4th grader me enjoyed the challenge of dealing with the worse Pokemon for the first 2 gyms.. and that was also my first lvl 100 pokemon... That Charizard holds a special place in my childish heart. Same with my very first shiny (Zubat) that I caught in Emerald
Congratulations Bro! I haven't been watching pokemon content too much lately and i missed that you married 😊 awesome!
God dang dude, I love charizard. I don't think it's gonna do particularly amazing, but I sure am happy to see it!!!
Venemoth bring a Rock/Rock type absolutely killed me. Caught me way off guard.
It was very entertaining watching you try to understand why the damage range was so wide on flamethrower when you forgot about blaze.
Gen 3 AI, explaining Bruno: if the AI doesn't see a kill with any move then it has a chance to go for a setup move. Amazing that Machamp x4 SE rock slide did not find a range that killed, you must have a lot of defense EVs. Level 56 0 attack Machamp vs 143/206 HP Lv 65
Not beating the Elite 4 Round 2 here is like finishing Pokémon GSC without beating Red, hope you will challenge it next time 😢
Furthermore, Sword Dance may have helped a lot in this playthrough. If you can boost once at the start of a fight, it's almost always gg.
Hey great video but a tip for you going forward is when you are in the safari zone you can retire after you pick up surf. The retire will teleport you out of the safari zone.
Interesting to see your first approaches of these remakes. Handling the newly added abilities might take some time though, but I guess you will work into it like with everything else. Quick note here: It was good that you didn't hit the Ponyta with Flamethrower, you would have boosted it's fire attacks because of it's Flash Fire ability and it would have taken no damage. In the end, abilities are just an additional thing to look out in future challenges when considering move choices. 🙂
That Ponyta doesn't have Flash Fire.
@@iron___ Bulbapedia says it does though, and also other wikis. 🤔
@@Thebald22 Bulbapedia is wrong. You definitely can hit that Ponyta (and Rapidash) with fire moves.
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I'm honestly surprised that Bulbapedia says it does, since they've been pretty accurate in my experience.
"you can't jam out if you're a Pokemon trainer!" *Scott proceeds to jam out*
To those mentioning dragon claw; while it helps vs lance it doesnt really fix the champion battle. He still needed to level up.
Also, Scott, it might have been better to lock Charmander into blaze range at the start of many of his tough battles and just smash through with blaze boosted fire atks
Love all your stuff!
You were sleeping on Flamethrower in quite a few situations. You'd use Rock Slide or Dig because they had type advantages over the opponent, when Flamethrower still had higher raw damage with STAB. Or it might have slightly less raw damage, but Charizard's Special Attack was ~30 points higher than Physical. And at the end you kept using Earthquake after 1+ Intimidates, making Earthquake way weaker than a raw Flamethrower.
Honestly, for the vast majority of situations, raw Flamethrower is all Charizard needs to mow through the game. And you really need to check all your stats before you select something else.
The funny thing with Charizard and Dig
Is that despite being underground
Magnitude/EQ, still won’t hit it due to the flying typing if I remember correctly
Yeah. Same with Pokemon with Levitate. Flygon and Vikavolt.
I know this is an old video and i really enjoyed it , and by knowing you I’m you’ll improve much much more .. forgetting blaze again and again was hurting but you can’t be blamed.. you mainly play gen 1 and 2 .. all the best
Congratulations on becoming a Cat's servant. May your days be dedicated to their service.
22:30 nope that wasnt a better damage roll, it was its special Ability. Everyone forgetts about the Starter Base Abilitys.
Challenge idea Scott. Charizard vs Gyarados race but they both get dragon type instead of flying 🐉. And, of course, that change affects other Gyarados or Charizard in the game. You pick the generation. You get to face either a gen 1 Gyarados with no weaknesses or a gen 3 special defense beast with intimidate. Sounds fun 😁
Scott: Damge ranges are great! Nothing beats a high percentage damage range!
I: Yeah, Blaze carried like a Pro Gamer. :p
I wonder if that would be a good (and risky) strategie to use. (in Gen 3 and after)
STAB and ability boost could be enough sometimes..
Hi Scott, I know this was a long time ago but nevertheless. Don’t forget once you’re at red health blaze kicks in and boosts fire moves a bunch. Probably better against blastoise than any physical move at that point (unless it’s raining maybe)
Edit: ok I see this comes up a few times. I don’t know why the games don’t ever tell you when blaze/torrent/overgrowth is active, but they don’t. Maybe your overlay could help out here? By modifying the move power, at a minimum, but maybe also getting a little more excited in other ways? (Fire around the ability text, Iunno)
Seeing you beat brock on the second try kinda hurt my ego a tiny bit haha, when I first played fire red, it took me a very long time to beat brock with charmander and butterfree. It was my first pokémon game and jrpg in general, but I was a teenager not a young kid.
YESSS, I love frlg. Glad you’re doing some runs of it.
also dragon claw tm would definitely help with lance.
As someone with an orange cat, I can tell you, you made a good choice in Churro. :) orange fur babies are the best fur babies.
It's funny, I always thought the Gen 1 Charizard back sprite always had a creepy smile.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Charizard was having an interesting journey in this run.😊 Fire types in kanto are usually having a hard time,but at least some abilities can help or break the run.
Using blaze is really risky,but it is worth it alongside sunny day. 😊
By the way you can catch a Meowth south of Cerulean,as your cut user ,and it has pick up ,so you can obtain this way a lot of items. 😊
One thing is for sure.Blastoise is going to dominate kanto for sure.
Good ol Churrozard
Hey Scott! Thanks again for another great video. I'm so excited about the new series! I was thinking about you recently commenting on your vocal strain issues, and I noticed you frequently talk about the same or similar parts in the games because you want to be thorough.. could you not just record a section either once or a few different ways and just drop in the correct chunk of audio depending on what you want to explain? You could just add a small disclaimer if there is something specific for a particular playthrough.. or you could have it part of patreon that people can submit a recording to use in a playthrough? Anyways hope all is well, cant wait for the next one!
Whenever Scott uploads make my day
"So unless rock slide causes a lot of flinches..." - Proceeds to only use the move once.
I sometimes don’t understand his thinking like at the rival at the rocket hideout he uses rockslide against the pidgeot even though flamethrower has a higher effective power and charizard has higher special attack than attack and pidgeot has lower special defense then defense so flamethrower is better. Then in the same fight he uses wing attack against the alakazam while he just got intimidated while again flamethrower would (probably) kill.
Scott sucks at battling. It’s very frustrating for a guy who literally plays these games for a living to be as bad as he is. I find myself yelling at him through the screen seemingly at least once a video. Oh well. I still watch all his content
Glad you are redoing these runs later because I know chardzard can do a lot better
Awww churro is always a welcome presence!
Poor charizard :( anyways keep up the good work Scott!!!
I'm sure someone pointed this out to you at some point, but those dark spots are all berries. In fact, they're basically Gen 2-style berry trees.
These starter pokemon keep getting crazy rolls at low hp!
"Itz a Flammenwerfer. It werfs Flammen" -I have no idea where it originated
I guess Venomoth was feeling a little Fergalicious today
in some battles you could have started with Charizard pre-damaged in order to activate Blaze boost
I can't wait for the optimised run of charizard, sunny day boosted blaze boosted charcoal stab boosted flamethrower is gonna go so well if you actually use it in the right situations :)
I understand that this is one of your first playthrough in this game but Charizard easily has the potential to be much better than Venusaur and Mew. Using Blaze + Sunny day effectively would have improved the results by leaps and bounds! So many times a resisted flamethrower is the better option compared to a neutral rock slide/EQ even without the blaze boost and with the boost it's not even a question
Hey Scott. Loving the videos as always. You always manage to calm me down with your smood voice and methodical play.
I know this video is old but I had a thought for your future run of Charizard. @25:55 could you have tried using slash on the arcanine since the crit would bypass the attack drops? Not sure what the effective damage/damage calc looks like on the back end. I know it’s not as consistent but wanted to throw that out there
Char? As in Char Aznable?!
YEEEEEESSSSS NICE ONE MAN!
You can get berries from those berry spots in the ground, and they refill every x steps.
You got the one Hits on Lapras and Slobro due to ITs ability blaze. So you have the sun plus Blaze = I think times 2 on the flamethrower and I think STAB stacks so “in a Pinch” Flamethrower does 2.5 times and if it holds a Charcoal it’s 2.7 time. Feel free to correct me if you see that I’m wrong.
I think Neutral Natures are a Good/Fair choice for Natures in Gen III, Since Most Pokemon have a mixed movepool and Stats. Gen 4 its easier to pick Natures based on the pokemons Move pool and Stats.
I would go +SpA -Def, or -SpDef usually. On Blastoise I'd maybe go +Speed -Def. I think neutral natures are never optimal, as there is always one stat more important than another.
@@tiemen9095not optimal but safe
Im so happy your channel is growing
Your content is so wholesome
Yeah, now that cat is the owner of your keyboard, you'll only be able to use it if he lets you XD
I have never screamed blaze range so many times in my life
I'm not sure if anyone said this already but you could have taught brick break after you come off SS Anne for ease against rock and steel types with the eventual ice/water types
> instant foster fail
absolutely based. happy for you
Hey hey! Time for my ace and Mega evolution of choice!
I look forward to this video.
Blaze saved you in the Elite Four a lot without you even knowing it a lot of the times lol. Also you should’ve picked up Dragon Claw in victory road. You would’ve swept Lance with it as it uses your Special Attack.
I’m surprised we didn’t see Solarbeam, since you were using Sunny Day. It’s great for dealing with rocks and waters…
I may be wrong, but I think the tm for dragon claw is I'm victory road. Would probably help with Lance
"Doesn't pack the same *punch* as my current normal type move" I see what you did there
Hey, how did I miss that your significant other made the final evolution to wife. Congrats my dude!
Can I just say how interesting I find it that a Japanese game has a grass (plants) leader named Erkia. Lest we forget what side they were on in the '40's. [Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein]
Erika isn't her name in Japanese; most names were translated by NOA
You forgot blaze and dragon claw!! Noooo 😢 Good video either way!
"I'm sure so many people wandered around not knowing what to do." Really? I talked to Mr. Fuji to get the Poké Flute because if I'm still nearby him after teleporting, it must be because he has something important to say.
Gotta wonder how this run would of gone if Charizard got access to Solar Beam in this generation instead of having to wait until Gen 4.
i like how erica became the new lt surge for this run ^.^
Deine Katze ist wunderschön. Ich hoffe, dass dein Kraut deinen Kuchen endlich rasieren wird.
I always felt Charmander is the best choice if you don’t want to rely on your starter too much. I never felt like it anchored a team the same way the Bulbasaur and Squirtle lines do.
On Rival 5: Blastoise's second water gun didn't roll better damage. It seemed to roll lower considering it was in torrent range
On blaine: charizard would do more damage to arcanine with charcoal flamethrower, since you had -2 attack and you were in blaze on the last hit, pluss it had 100 accuracy
Fosters give me a fuzzy feeling too. Mainly Frankie Foster 😍
From this playthrough, it doesn't seem like you are trained enough yet to take Blaze / Torrent into account in your damage estimations. It made a difference in many situations but you didnt name it I think (against the Lapras it made the difference every time, and it may also have against rival 5's Alakazam or Lances Aerodactyl). Honestly, in general it seems you are still learning to recognize and play around abilities. also poison point (Nidoking) and thick fat (Dewgong) for example.
Now that I have dig I’m ready for Misty (forgets to use dig) 🤣
In these remakes you have to watch out for the starter abilities. Probably should also try and work in those abilities into the overlay since there were a few times where taking advantage of blaze boosted stab flamethrower was clearly the best play and you didn’t take it.
Let's go! Thank you for releasing these amazing FireRed Runs.
I'm a dad of 2 girls who love Pokémon. Kat playing SoulSilver Dinah playing Shild. 7 and 10 respectively. We watch your videos together. Thank you
Well, that was a very nice finish.
And now for future game runs you also have to consider EVs when training. I think it can add some flexibility. Got the attack power you need to sweep, but are slow? Speed EVs! More bulk is needed? HP or a defense stat. And could make for different results in races. Seeing how it would look comparing a bulky build vs a more speedy sweeping one. How much is needed per stat to make it work? Time to find out. Looking at the nugget bridge rival fight where mega punch wasnt quite grtting the 2 hit on pidgeotto it mightve been a good idea to get even just 1 level by grinding vs pokemon tjat gives attack EVs. Couldve prepped for it by defeated mankeys just before Mt Moon.
the amount of times i yelled IT'S BLAZE is unhealthy lol
i keep forgetting these were recorded before you had a better grasp on abilities
Probably already on but I would like an effective power update for ability ranges. Didn't see it for blaze.
47, 53, and 58 are the possible speed stats for Starmie. Since natures are random, those are a minus, neutral and boosting nature.
Think it's based on trainer name in gen 3
Huh. I knew Rapidash got Bounce, its a coverage option I'd use on it in gen 4, but I didn't realize Bounce was a move yet in gen 3.
Cat Dad life is pretty sweet. For reasons I dont want to go into I have 6 cats and 2 dogs and they keep me pretty busy