man, i cant stop from crying... just understanding that he understood that he was singing a song his own father wrote, about *him* still unborn... how he held it together i do not know... i did read that he burst into tears as soon as he left the stage... i can only imagine. *Seraph* not to mention that from the beginning here, the foreshadowing of water taking him, drowning, etc... that went on his whole career... tears and chills.
Lilla Bognár ah. okay, thank you for the corrected timeline. though, it isn't stopping the tears... he was still singing/covering a song that his own father wrote about his feelings towards *him* and his mother, i think in the only way that Tim knew how to express those feelings... and i just cant even grasp what it must have been like to play that song and sing his father's feelings about himself...
n/a n/a Actually, could you please explain to me a bit more about those feelings expressed through the song? I'm French, and although I can understand the words, I can't quite get to the meaning behind it all... I feel very drawn to the "spooky" connection between Tim and Jeff, and would love to understand it more...(the song that most talks to me about it is Dream Letter, which is straightforward enough that I can understand...but this one is too complex for me to grasp, so a little help - if possible - would be oh so appreciated :) )
Pepito Micolazon well, i am no expert... but what i understand is, that Tim and Jeff's mother dated a while, and she became pregnant, unexpectedly... Tim was trying at a music career... and made a choice to leave Jeff's mother and try and pursue it... in this song i think he is trying to say, "i never asked to be a father, or your husband and shoulder all of this responsibility..." and he didn't... then he starts to talk about Jeff after he had been born and was now a bit older, and how his mother would speak to him of how much of a scoundrel his father was, and how he felt Jeff was then, even at a young age forced to help support and comfort her, when he never asked for that kind of responsibility either....he was the product of it! kind of like, Tim was saying to the mother, neither of us ever asked to be your 'mountain' of support and comfort... and seems to put a sort of unfair spin on it. though, Tim DID get her pregnant... and that DOES take TWO. but he denies that he ever intended it to become so serious. and then when Jeff was still young, he felt it was unfair that he imagined the mother leaning on Jeff for support and comfort, especially when he REALLY had no voice or choice in the matter... i could be missing something here, or left something out... anyone else who can describe it better, please do...
+n/a n/a i hear ya man,so profound....knowing how poignant the lyrics were...Tim dying at 28,Jeff at 30....tangled and sad parent/child relationships..it is making me think of my own struggles in this area,and i feel a bit teary too.
Jeff Buckley--voice, acoustic guitar Gary Lucas--slide space guitar Cheryl Hardwick--piano Hank Roberts--cello Greg Cohen--acoustic bass GE Smith--guitar Live at St Ann's Church Brooklyn, "Greetings from Tim Buckley" tribute concert 4/26/91 Produced by Hal Willner
Singing a song about yourself as a child being abandoned (as he was) from your father is pretty brave. Jeff you are/we're worth more than that. I'm not in judgement of Tim. But to perform the way he did must have been difficult.
@@npatt6362 "it was about him having to take the gypsy life over a regular one. I’m mentioned in the song, as is his girlfriend at the time - my mom. It’s a beautiful song. I both admired it and hated it, so that’s what I sang. There are all of these expectations that come with this “‘60s offspring” bullshit, but I can’t tell you how little he had to do with my music." Quote from jeff buckley
See also: Dream Brother - The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley by David Browne. He chronicles the parallels between their two lives; great book.
That's a horrible term & no child should be referred to that way. But if you mean it in the sense it is used generally, ie, unmarried parents, TB & Jeff's mother WERE married.
Jeff's parents were married. Tim falsely believed his girlfriend was pregnant and they were married on October 25, 1965, when he was just 18. Jeff Buckley was not born until Nov 17, 1966 - but Tim was gone by then.
The titles at the beginning seem to suggest that Tim didn't want Jeff at his funeral, which is unlikely. The second wife wouldn't have thought of including Jeff as he had not really been in Tim's life, and it may be that her son didn't even know about Jeff. Jeff was not even mentioned in the obituaries. Sounds like the second wife wanted it that way. Tim and Jeff's mother were divorced about a month before Jeff was born.
Thanks so much - I've been wanting to hear this ever since I found out about the tribute concert for his dad. Nice that both this and "Once I Was," covered by Jeff, have been posted here. There was a third song of his father's that he performed at the tribute - any idea where I might find that? I'd like to hear that as well. Thanks again!
I just read that there were actually two others or maybe he just played guitar on one and sang on one? They were Sefronia and Phantasmagoria, which coincidentally must be two of the greatest and most beautiful song titles ever :) try flowersintime.org for info on where you might be able to download them or get mp3 files somehow.
man, i cant stop from crying... just understanding that he understood that he was singing a song his own father wrote, about *him* still unborn... how he held it together i do not know... i did read that he burst into tears as soon as he left the stage... i can only imagine. *Seraph* not to mention that from the beginning here, the foreshadowing of water taking him, drowning, etc... that went on his whole career... tears and chills.
n/a n/a I think he wrote it after Jeff was born. This was released on Goodbye and Hello from 1967
Lilla Bognár ah. okay, thank you for the corrected timeline. though, it isn't stopping the tears... he was still singing/covering a song that his own father wrote about his feelings towards *him* and his mother, i think in the only way that Tim knew how to express those feelings... and i just cant even grasp what it must have been like to play that song and sing his father's feelings about himself...
n/a n/a Actually, could you please explain to me a bit more about those feelings expressed through the song? I'm French, and although I can understand the words, I can't quite get to the meaning behind it all... I feel very drawn to the "spooky" connection between Tim and Jeff, and would love to understand it more...(the song that most talks to me about it is Dream Letter, which is straightforward enough that I can understand...but this one is too complex for me to grasp, so a little help - if possible - would be oh so appreciated :) )
Pepito Micolazon well, i am no expert... but what i understand is, that Tim and Jeff's mother dated a while, and she became pregnant, unexpectedly... Tim was trying at a music career... and made a choice to leave Jeff's mother and try and pursue it... in this song i think he is trying to say, "i never asked to be a father, or your husband and shoulder all of this responsibility..." and he didn't... then he starts to talk about Jeff after he had been born and was now a bit older, and how his mother would speak to him of how much of a scoundrel his father was, and how he felt Jeff was then, even at a young age forced to help support and comfort her, when he never asked for that kind of responsibility either....he was the product of it! kind of like, Tim was saying to the mother, neither of us ever asked to be your 'mountain' of support and comfort... and seems to put a sort of unfair spin on it. though, Tim DID get her pregnant... and that DOES take TWO. but he denies that he ever intended it to become so serious. and then when Jeff was still young, he felt it was unfair that he imagined the mother leaning on Jeff for support and comfort, especially when he REALLY had no voice or choice in the matter... i could be missing something here, or left something out... anyone else who can describe it better, please do...
+n/a n/a i hear ya man,so profound....knowing how poignant the lyrics were...Tim dying at 28,Jeff at 30....tangled and sad parent/child relationships..it is making me think of my own struggles in this area,and i feel a bit teary too.
He elevated that song past his own father's conception.
Jeff Buckley--voice, acoustic guitar
Gary Lucas--slide space guitar
Cheryl Hardwick--piano
Hank Roberts--cello
Greg Cohen--acoustic bass
GE Smith--guitar
Live at St Ann's Church Brooklyn, "Greetings from Tim Buckley" tribute concert 4/26/91
Produced by Hal Willner
Thank you!!! :)
you are welcome :-)
Gary!! 🤘 Thank you 💜
You guys did an amazing rendition I have chills Gary Lucas! Beautiful performance!
"tears are falling down my face and your the reason why"
love you Jeff,you belong to the stars,you r a contellation of love,devotion,surrender!!!
God bless you!!!!!
The Angel of music.
Just found Jeff Buckley, fabulous.
Ironically, this is where the music powerbrokers of the world found him.
I wish I could discover him for the first time again
This is really touching. Jeff was the only depositary of what I think is the most beautiful voice ever
It was actually on Tim Buckley Goodbye & Hello which is his 2nd Album after the Self Titled. Very beautiful performance I am glad to hear it!
Singing a song about yourself as a child being abandoned (as he was) from your father is pretty brave. Jeff you are/we're worth more than that. I'm not in judgement of Tim. But to perform the way he did must have been difficult.
Tim was such an asshole.
@@deanvo503 Oh you knew him personally?
@@josephmarshall6599 yeah i Don't like it when people bash tim he did what he thought was right in the moment
Tim didn’t write this song about Jeff, and Jeff knew that.
Stop virtue searching.
@@npatt6362 "it was about him having to take the gypsy life over a regular one. I’m mentioned in the song, as is his girlfriend at the time - my mom. It’s a beautiful song. I both admired it and hated it, so that’s what I sang. There are all of these expectations that come with this “‘60s offspring” bullshit, but I can’t tell you how little he had to do with my music."
Quote from jeff buckley
More than his father deserved but that doesn't matter, what matters is that he did it for closure. I hope he got it. He sure did the song justice!
But Tim sang it better. And he wrote this song.
@@wildviolet3973but he was a shitty dad who abandoned his wife and child
The song appeared in Tim's second album; Goodbye And Hello - 1967 (Jeff was born in 1966).
Gary Lucas and his book "Touched by Grace" sent me here.
See also: Dream Brother - The Lives and Music of Jeff and Tim Buckley by David Browne. He chronicles the parallels between their two lives; great book.
1:04 To be told what a song, or any other work of art, is about, beyond inspiration is.
One of Jeff's best performances ever and even better than Tim's performance of this song on Goodbye and Hello.
I respect Jeff, but Tim's original version is way better.
thank you also. i had a copy of this, and lost it. really appreciate the chance to listen to it again.
This song should be in a the next crow movie.
Pretty trippy!!
It is not from "Tim Buckley," Buckley's first album. It is from his second album, "Goodbye and Hello."
+markfogarty1954 correct.
As a bastard myself i can really relate to this song.
excuse me?
That's a horrible term & no child should be referred to that way. But if you mean it in the sense it is used generally, ie, unmarried parents, TB & Jeff's mother WERE married.
Jeff's parents were married. Tim falsely believed his girlfriend was pregnant and they were married on October 25, 1965, when he was just 18. Jeff Buckley was not born until Nov 17, 1966 - but Tim was gone by then.
The titles at the beginning seem to suggest that Tim didn't want Jeff at his funeral, which is unlikely. The second wife wouldn't have thought of including Jeff as he had not really been in Tim's life, and it may be that her son didn't even know about Jeff. Jeff was not even mentioned in the obituaries. Sounds like the second wife wanted it that way. Tim and Jeff's mother were divorced about a month before Jeff was born.
This song is from the second album of Tim, Godbye and Hello, not from the self-titled debut.
Sounds like Geddy Lee ...Rush
Good observation. He does sound like Geddy Lee. Completely different styles, but similar vocal qualities.
@@Kaagrant cool !
@@lunarmystic9896 Yeah, I thought so too : )
He was the boss
@lassixjune its sort of sounds like a representation of his death :(
Thanks so much - I've been wanting to hear this ever since I found out about the tribute concert for his dad. Nice that both this and "Once I Was," covered by Jeff, have been posted here.
There was a third song of his father's that he performed at the tribute - any idea where I might find that? I'd like to hear that as well.
Thanks again!
I just read that there were actually two others or maybe he just played guitar on one and sang on one? They were Sefronia and Phantasmagoria, which coincidentally must be two of the greatest and most beautiful song titles ever :) try flowersintime.org for info on where you might be able to download them or get mp3 files somehow.
@@johnarundell7951 4 in total.