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He will walk off. End up being adopted by a goblin and a flatulent Ogre and learn how to leave all his troubles behind. Some years later jaina will find him and urge him to come back home. Varian appears in the clouds and tells him " remember who you are. You are my son and the one true king."
I loved this cutscene, this is the Sylvanas I adored in the beginning. A good but tortured soul. A tragic character, they did her dirty but at least this cinematic felt like WoW again to me. People keep wanting to ship these 2 but to me that is just weird af for a few reasons, but I do love the motherly like nature she has towards him and she even gave him a nickname similar to her baby brother's. I personally think her turn around was when Anduin asked her if that was what it felt like when Arthas ripped her soul apart and she said yes. I think that was when she realized how she screwed up because was putting Anduin through a similar thing to what she had experienced that made her the way she was.
I think her voice does sound loving as she says farewell. I think she regards him as the brother she could not say goodbye to. It's like she has gotten her second chance at that. No farewell to Little Lord Sun, but a warm farewell to the Little Lion. Love it sooo much
Nah, they belong together as a couple. In their true essence, they are both caring and loyal (let's not forget the loyalty of Ranger General, as well as Varian's) and I think both of them showed their feelings towards one another during the cinematics. Yes, it would've been weird to have a confirmation of this during Shadowlands, but I do hope they get their peace and happiness together in future expansions.
Anduin came to Sylvannas with this because she's one of the few who has first hand experience with being controlled by greater powers. "I have faced what I was. Now the work begins."
@Tsunzucchini TzatzikiSan Yes, just like part of Ashenvale still looks like it's burnt by Deathwing. And in other areas you can speak with a bronze dragon to see what it looked like before.
Say what you will about this expansion, but the animation and voice actors did a fantastic job of making you feel just how tired all of these characters have been made by their ordeals 😟
This was a very good cutscene. Full of emotion and facing realities. I approve. Also I think it's cute AF that Sylv calls him "little Lion." Like a nickname from an aunt or mum.
Do not read if you're avoiding spoilers for the book Sylvanas I think it's fucking heartbreaking....Her brother was her little lord sun,little lion is because he reminds her of her own brother
i always felt like maybe she held herself a little responsible for his father's dead. ( She was the one to make the decision to withdraw leaving the alliance) little things like holding back on attacking him during the gathering failure. She would have been justified in attacking him, cause alliance (calia) technically broke the rules of the events when she started encouraging forsakens to abandon their queen
@@ZenFr0g its from the sylvanas book. she calls him little lion on accident during the war council for the legion invasion. she was thinking of little lord sun (her brother) and how anduin reminded her of him when she addressed him (he was in the middle of a speech bringing them both together) and helped him get the horde and alliance war council on track.
I remember first time I saw him in bfa, I didnt like him much bcs it was hard to switch from Varian to him as the "human figure" and I was like "how long he will take to convince us", from the moment he gave his sword to Saurfang, it became one of my fav too
for a moment, when Sylvanas said 'the work begins' I thought andy would offer to help, to resolve his inner turmoil, along her (Sylvie refusing since it's her penance), so I couldn't help giggling when he replied "yes.... ok bye" and then left.
Anduin is more confused than she is. If anything, he should be asking her for guidance. When people are in emotional turmoil, theres actually not much you can do for them. They need to think. Sylvannas advising Anduin to face himself and begin soul searching was probably all he needed. The rest is time and effort.
@@JioVega "if anything, he should be asking her for guidance" - that's literally what he's doing in the video. And the fact that they both need time for introspection is exactly what made me think Anduin might join her. But it would've demeaned Sylvanas' repentance :p
Well Thrall is back now and now has his armor finally on and looks like his older self again SO I AM HOPING they do him right going forward.. Seems people forget that it was basically Thrall and Grom taking on the Demons by their selves to free their people from the demon blood in their veins.. And, the sad but, heroic ending of Grom sacrificing himself to get the killing blow on Mannoroth to redeem his past mistakes.. Point is Thrall is a fkin insane badass but, I can understand him acting the way he was after he killed Groms kid cause he turned into pure evil but, its nice to see his story may get to move forward again..
@@jamiebenn6425 Play through Siege of Orgrimmar and see what Garrosh Hellscream wants.. He is literally the end all be all boss of all of Pandaria.. Grom wanted the best for his people, Garrosh his son wanted war and death and nothing but.. This is why Thrall became weaker with the elements and for the most part losing touch with himself cause he literally was the one who struck the killing blow on Garrosh his best friends kid the guy he spent most of his young adult life helping over come the burning rage of the demon blood and then he failed at helping his son over come the anger in his heart... It basically killed Thrall for a good time.
He reminds her of her younger brother that she called “Little Lord Sun.” The Sylvanas book by Christie Golden was excellent. If you like audiobooks, Patty Mattson narrates it and I thought that was a really nice touch to it.
Mostly Horde player and I was playing my Alliance Warlock when I was given this quest and it got me right in the feels. Shadowlands is my first expansion and despite all it's criticisms - I've loved it. This felt like a good ending.
that put a smile on my face,I thought we would've not seen Sylvanas again until a far away expansion,but they still have some stuff in store. And that dialogue was beautiful,Zooval's mind control scarred Anduin WAY more than I thought,and,can't lie,I love that she still calls him "Little Lion"
IOn said that "time is different in Shadowlands". PRetty much allows them to bring her back any time and still have it be that she spent many years in Shadowlands. Also, they certainly do not want to stop using the most popular character in the franchise for a long time as well.
I believe she see in him the little brother she could not say goodbye to. Little Lion for Anduin and Little Lord Sun for her own brother. This makes it all the more beautiful.
Really love this arc for Anduin and the symmetry between him and Sylvanas. Actually left me feeling excited for these characters and what their futures hold.
WoW cinematics were always of the highest standard, and cutscenes also became decent awhile with more voice acting and in-game animations. In BfA and Shadowlands, some cinematics became just dialogues more and more, with less action and interesting stuff in them. However, these were for the most part, exceptions. But in Dragonflight, I literally can't watch one without cringing, I would never rewatch a cinematic from the current expansion :D
Looking back and trying to not be jaded, I think all the interactions between Anduin and Sylvannas in Shadowlands were good character stories. It just sucks they screwed up the jailer so bad. Honestly they could have made him a much better villain with just a few tweaks but instead we get an example of how not to write a villain
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м Reuploaded Comment: Oh, so that explains the missing number of souls of those faces we knew. Sure wish Blizzard would actually show us those afterlives in the distant future. And I do appreciate your straightforward answer. Now it makes sense.
@@stevenrusch6341 woulda be fun to see all of our old villians again like deathwing, fandral staghelm (wonder if he is still a loser in death xd) of course i would've loved to have met legends like Anduin Lothar, Arthas etc but bliz basically just through together a expansion quickly just because.
Surprisingly this is a golden moment in Shadowlands. The ending interaction and the "the work begins" part is actually deep and meaninful. SOmething the expansion has lacked. (that and the the whole part about ysera's resurrection).
Microsoft's tip is up Blizzard's ass already. That's what you're seeing here. Those snippets of good writing are when it wriggles around a little. Soon, it'll go all the way in.
Man, no matter what they did to Sylvanas, after reading the book, I fell even more in love with her character. I cant avoid the sad smile and little punch in the heart when i read or watch something related to her from now on. That "Little Lion" reference gets me everytime..
Probably longer than that....an incalculable number of souls ended up in the Maw before we managed to restore the Arbiter like literally anyone anywhere that died before that all got sent to the Maw she could very well be there for many years
Am I the only one that looks at Sylvanas like she really feels for Anduin and I would ship these two together in a proper relationship maybe? I think they'd be brilliant xD
@@ricardobrands9736 Arthas was impulsive but he was not entirely evil, he had a end justified the means mindset but the moment he held frostmourne that all changed. If you played or seen the cutscene from WoW lich king dlc, after his defeat he said “all he saw was darkness” before dying even Uther spirit that was trapped in Frostmourne said he was being controlled
@@ricardobrands9736 It's not very obvious, but it's there. Matthias Lehner (child version of Arthas during the Frostmourne Cave questline), the fact that Arthas was holding the Scourge back, he still had Jaina's locket, etc. He was still in there, just buried deep. I think these small acts of defiance against the Lich King are a demonstration that yes, he did feel some form of remorse.
I’m sad and scared right now. I’m scared that he’s never going to come back to being king of Stormwind. Also I’m hurting knowing how he’s been feeling about having been dominated. On the other hand this gives us a start for the Light vs Void expansion. I’m just hurt I want my baby boy back…
@@tekumotouchiha7976 And his ascension into madness should lead to an Alliance Council being formed. Though it should’ve been formed after all Anduin did while he was dominated.
I fully 100% believe now that "little lion" is like how she has nicknames for all her siblings. They draw parallels from anduin and lirath in the book. At first it sounds like she’s mocking him but I don’t think that’s the case anymore, especially here.
@@renskekoenders2202 I completely agree with you. At first I didn’t like how they were writing her, but I really like how it ended honestly. The only thing I would have like to seen more of would be the three sisters interacting a bit more before her judgment.
@@alliebit Indeed. I could tell that hat they had a moment longer, Vereesa would have run up to her to give her a warm hug. I could see the pain in her eyes that final moment before Sylv jumped.
@@renskekoenders2202 oh yeah definitely. I did however feel angry towards Alleria, like it’s your sister more so than ever and you look like you could throw her in there yourself😂 But the little dialogue between her and Vereesa was nice and made me less angry at her.
This is great. Imagine the afterlife, souls that hate each other have to make up for what they did to each other, one way or the other. And I knew Sylvanas was going to do a Queen of Blades Redemption arc, like many others, before the expansion came out. Saw comments everywhere stating it. While she's not a goddess, she's still undoing all the hurt and bad things, just like Starcrafts QoB.
Once any character loses their faith in their class, they can just pick up stick or some edged stone to become warrior -> catch phrase "AZEROTH is FREE"
@@Anvarynn I noticed the more recent in game cinematics have seen a massive jump in quality. Seems like something they've introduced this expansion. It's a very welcome change, it certainly beats the older style of "character does generic /say or /yell animation loop while dialogue plays" that was everywhere in WoD.
@@arstulex It is something they introduced this expansion. They created a whole new in house tool to create in-game cutscenes that don't use prefab animations. Think the first use of it was the "Arbiter Pelagos Passes Judgement on Sylvanas" cutscene. Finally a dramatic increase to cinematic quality in game. Considering they've decided to make WoW more story-first, I'm glad they're finally catching up the tech to make said story more immersive and rich. Just unfortunate they're using a soon-twenty-year-old engine. Makes the spaghetti pile up high
This is REALLY good! I actually liked it a lot. Makes you think a bit about Arthas too! Perhaps at some point he gave in to the excitement and thirst for power? Much to ponder!
*This is the last we've seen of Anduin until The War Within trailer.* That's the tricky thing about the Light, isn't it? It's a "faith" thing. If you believe in what you're doing, it'll happen. Anduin did it, but the Scarlet Crusade also did it. The opposite would also be true. If Anduin doesn't believe in himself, *the light goes out.*
Classic andy here, started Shadowlands in season 4. When I played through the final story with Sylvanas and the new arbiter I really felt the heart they put into hestory. It may have been a weird decision the path they set for Sykvanas starting BFA, but apart from that, lots of great secondary stories and enjoyable arcs. Will play Wrath once again, but hat down for a lot of the retail content. The Sylvanas Anduin interactions throught Shadowlands were some of the best wow character interactions in game.
Anduin is so admirable for already seeming to have forgiven Sylvanas for what she did to him. Not many people would have. The Light IS with you Little Lion.
@@chriskoohkIllidan was trying to sae the world and sacrificed everything for it including himself. Sylvanas was hellbent on destroying it until she was revealed to be the pawn she was and cast aside then suddenly its a bad thing.
He literally sounds like Arthas, he called the light but was not sure of himself, so the light did not answer… also I was hoping he would stay there for a while and help her that’s what I thought he was going to do
@@LeystTV I think behind the scenes they'll run into each other again, kind of like an Alleria and Turalyon kind of thing. I truly feel theres a love story here with these two, its gonna be super weird because Sylvanas is old enough to be his great grandmother, but who knows maybe Anduin is in to 1000 year old half dead elves
@@ltg8382 You can't please everyone¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Thankfully there are also millions of WoW fans who ARE happy because of this cinematic. Personally, these are two of my favorite characters in the lore. But even if you don't like the characters, I've seen people say they think this is the right direction for them.
Anduin: Whoa what are you doing here? Sylvanas: This isn’t exactly what you would call Zion. Joshua Graham: I’ve come to help you both find your way. Let’s get to it. We can’t except God to do all the work.
- "It is perilous to confuse what you are made to do with what you choose to do" I'd like to think that Sylvanas talks about both her and Anduin situations. As much as developers tried to sell that she was "made" to do horrible things, she herself consider it her own choice, her sins for which she must atone, all while convincing Anduin that he, as opposed to her, were actually forced into this. It gives a cool perspective: Anduin believes that he is just like Sylvanas - succumbed to temptation of great power and choose to do evil because he isn't as good person as he believe, while Sylvanas sees in Anduin something she herself would like to be - an innocent victim of powers beyond your control.
it is unknown if arthas' soul and also his good paladin prince side soul fragment half is still out there somewhere in the maw since last remnant and flicker of arthas' soul was part of his soul and also his evil death knight and lich king side soul fragment half it is unknown if arthas' soul will be judged and redeemed by the new arbiter after zovaal's defeat since arthas was victim of domination magic and since arthas' soul was split when he carried and touched frostmourne.
still have a hope for Anduin x Sylvanas romance, she is Queen he deserves and as bonus she has experience in art of war, so not some trophy wife that just sits at home.
I expected that Arthas would be reborn within Anduin that fragile last whisper of Arthas did not disappeared, he went right into Anduin doubt leaving scar of the lich king changing Anduin and after that he can see the things how Arthas have seen and what he embraced. And after all where is any Jaina x Arthas ,they have exchanged 0 words between them.
we expect too much from modern blizzard bro... they made it clear they want to erase all old stories, even tho arthas was their greatest creation and the literal face and soul of warcraft/wow. thats why for me wow died with arthas
@@martinivanov1319 mostly because the original creator of Warcraft lore leave at the end of Legion. Once the new one take his place as director, first thing he drop was "chronicle is not fully canon anymore", at this point we all knew bu*****t will happen.
It's not Jaina x Arthas anymore, it's Jaina x Kalecgos, and considering we have a dragon expansion coming... I for one can't wait for the cinematic where Kalec splits her in two with his dragon cock. Shit's gonna be so cash.
This hits right in the feels, but it's better than what a lot of people seemed to have been predicting. Yes, he goes to Sylvanus....but you know what? He needed her perspective and a bit of her sass to help him see the truth. None of what happened was his fault, and hopefully now he can dissect what was and wasn't his feelings but...poor thing, to think that satisfaction was something he couldn't tell if it was his or the Jailer's? That breaks my heart. Either way, I'm glad he's taking the time to himself that he needs. I don't think I could face the people that saved me so soon after those circumstances either.
Still fell if she comes back is because he asks she sees him like her little brother ( if you read the books you get it ) so if he asks for help she will come I fell like
what happens if anduin becomes corrupted by old gods and void powers whispers of the void and old gods thus he becomes like arthas and wrathion's father deathwing.
They should've stayed together, he helping her help back more souls and in the process both feel atoned as he supposedly agreed that work to do be done but instead he tried to choke the emotions down with drinking and going around doing meaningless stuff until he was called in TWW. The exhilaration feeling probably wasn't his own (likely the Arthas' piece of soul placed by the Jailer in the new sword caused the feeling, or even just the Jailer), as Anduin was never the person who acted or felt like punishment and/or retaliation should be a thing done without fair judgement first(he clearly demonstrates this an absurd amount of time over his life), so it made no sense for him feel the way he felt other than just being a human with overwhelming capacity for empathy which, alongside with his very strong willpower was why he was granted the powers of the Light, and to top that off regarding this he somehow forgot, that he was the only known individual, a mortal, with willpower strong enough to break domination magic when he had to pick a side in an ultimatum of a situation (Anduin raid boss fight/cutscene). And his father was kind like that too but more aggressive. This, cutscene, was not what it should be...
The shipper in me wants them to end up together or at the very least have some form of relationship maybe turn Sylvie into Anduin's emotional support mommy that everyone hates even though she does try to help out Anduin or something?
I feel bad for Tyrande's owl...to have to be there in that horrible place, The Maw for however long it takes to save all those lost souls....remember all these souls that don't belong in the maw are in there since Argus soul disrupted the Arbiter and knocked him out of commission...
As an old head of WoW this interaction gives me thoughts that Slyvannas will come back at some point..The warcraft universe does move in years between expansions so we will probably see her soon.
/shrug I could see them together. They would balance each other out fairly well I think. As for the actual cinematic, it’s been a long while since I’ve felt a Blizzard in game cinematic was done well. Emotions, facial expressions, body language, etc. Would love to see something with Kael’thas and Lothar.
Please do not start this crap, at least because he's not even 20 and she's thousands of years old. Plus undead. She can advise him, but that's the extent of it. And even then, the possible length of a lifespan affects a person's mentality greately. Perspective of someone who is capable of living thousands of years might not be useful for someone who is unlikely to hit a hundred. It looks more like he reminds her of Lirath, her younger brother, and even her nicknames for both are similar.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м Actually, you completely correct this was shown a bit in warcraft 2 and 3 up to where she died and she failed to defeat Arthas and in that defeat Arthas did not just torture but sacrificed 9/10 Blood Elves to raise Kel'Thuzad furthermore corrupting the sun well.. In that defense her brother was struck down as well.. Hence, why when she came back she came back as basically Vengeance incarnate. So I can completely see why she has this sort of big sister vibe over Anduin.. I do wonder cause it was not shown if her brother was raised up as an undead as well and lost control of himself to Arthas's will and in this she seen the same happen to Anduin and felt for him cause of something she went thru with her lil bro..
@@vandakaii2893 You confuse characters, though. Lirath died in Second War, when Quel'Talas was warring against the Horde, not during Scourge invasion. She was, however, *very* fond of him, that much is true, and one of the Jailer's trump cards was that the Arbiter separates families in afterlife (hey, Draka), so she's unlikely to meet Lirath again... unless she helps Zovaal to break the machine of Death.
I think Lother is in the either Light, Order, or even the Life/Nature version of the Afterlife. According to Blizzard each of the six factions have their own Afterlives with their own Zereths, like how Death has the Shadowlands and Zereth Mortis.
Hopefully they make themselves useful and find dead characters we want to come back. Although if I was writing this I'd have Ner'zul, now free of the Jailer, do a jailbreak on Torghast and free the souls of various dead characters like Gul'dan(after merging the two separate Gul'dan's together) and Teron Gor, have Ner'zul take Torghast for himself, become the Leader of a new Necromancer class and have Torghast be the new Necromancer Order Hall.
TBH, would've taken another Lich King (Anduin) with another scourge like invasion, without ending anduin as a consequence. Would've been more interesting imo.
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Okay, But I still think the Alliance and Argent Crusade had better get most of Northern Tirisfal Glades after all the BS.
Sylvanas truly was condemned to a fate worse than death, running Maw Dailies for all eternity
He will walk off. End up being adopted by a goblin and a flatulent Ogre and learn how to leave all his troubles behind. Some years later jaina will find him and urge him to come back home. Varian appears in the clouds and tells him " remember who you are. You are my son and the one true king."
I'm now picturing MoP's Anduin dancing and singing "Oh I just can't wait to be king" and it's just too funny.
Is this a reference to The Lion King?
It's a JoJo reference
Meanwhile, Wrathion and his Gnoll army: "A SHINY NEW ERA IS TIPTOEING NEARER"
Well new trailer has arrived, and it's not Jaina, but another 'old friend'...
I like how Little Lion went from being a name of derision for Sylvanas to Anduin, to a term of endearment. It's all in the delivery.
this actually felt like a genuine interaction between two lore characters, FINALLY
Indeed! Was really cool to see
@@OrchinX A new beginning perhaps. I wonder if Dragonflight will carry more of this.
No it’s boring af u simps
@@OrchinX Aww c'mon, the Sylvanas vs Tyrande fight was icing on the cake with everything Sylvanas had done.
I think they are both allowed to be this way because in this scenario they have both lost power
I loved this cutscene, this is the Sylvanas I adored in the beginning. A good but tortured soul. A tragic character, they did her dirty but at least this cinematic felt like WoW again to me. People keep wanting to ship these 2 but to me that is just weird af for a few reasons, but I do love the motherly like nature she has towards him and she even gave him a nickname similar to her baby brother's. I personally think her turn around was when Anduin asked her if that was what it felt like when Arthas ripped her soul apart and she said yes. I think that was when she realized how she screwed up because was putting Anduin through a similar thing to what she had experienced that made her the way she was.
no spoiler please, no spoiler
I think her voice does sound loving as she says farewell. I think she regards him as the brother she could not say goodbye to. It's like she has gotten her second chance at that. No farewell to Little Lord Sun, but a warm farewell to the Little Lion. Love it sooo much
I still ship them and I don't even care about WOW.
Nah, they belong together as a couple. In their true essence, they are both caring and loyal (let's not forget the loyalty of Ranger General, as well as Varian's) and I think both of them showed their feelings towards one another during the cinematics. Yes, it would've been weird to have a confirmation of this during Shadowlands, but I do hope they get their peace and happiness together in future expansions.
When did he ask her about how it felt when Arthas ripped her soul apart? I wanna see that.
Anduin came to Sylvannas with this because she's one of the few who has first hand experience with being controlled by greater powers.
"I have faced what I was. Now the work begins."
Nice cinematic, adds good character development for Anduin.
Indeed
@Tsunzucchini TzatzikiSan Yes, just like part of Ashenvale still looks like it's burnt by Deathwing. And in other areas you can speak with a bronze dragon to see what it looked like before.
Say what you will about this expansion, but the animation and voice actors did a fantastic job of making you feel just how tired all of these characters have been made by their ordeals 😟
whatever they are paying sylvanas VA, is not enough, easily the best one in the whole game.
This was a very good cutscene. Full of emotion and facing realities. I approve.
Also I think it's cute AF that Sylv calls him "little Lion." Like a nickname from an aunt or mum.
Do not read if you're avoiding spoilers for the book Sylvanas
I think it's fucking heartbreaking....Her brother was her little lord sun,little lion is because he reminds her of her own brother
@@sriley064 pretty sure it's because she was mocking how he can't measure up to his dad
i always felt like maybe she held herself a little responsible for his father's dead. ( She was the one to make the decision to withdraw leaving the alliance)
little things like holding back on attacking him during the gathering failure. She would have been justified in attacking him, cause alliance (calia) technically broke the rules of the events when she started encouraging forsakens to abandon their queen
@@sriley064 This really should be in the game. Why do we need to buy third-party media to understand the story? smh
@@ZenFr0g its from the sylvanas book. she calls him little lion on accident during the war council for the legion invasion. she was thinking of little lord sun (her brother) and how anduin reminded her of him when she addressed him (he was in the middle of a speech bringing them both together) and helped him get the horde and alliance war council on track.
Anduin continues to be one of my favorite characters
Will be exciting to see how he will be after his journey
I remember first time I saw him in bfa, I didnt like him much bcs it was hard to switch from Varian to him as the "human figure" and I was like "how long he will take to convince us", from the moment he gave his sword to Saurfang, it became one of my fav too
Me too
He will come back as Manduin.
I love the relationship between him and Sylvanas.
for a moment, when Sylvanas said 'the work begins' I thought andy would offer to help, to resolve his inner turmoil, along her (Sylvie refusing since it's her penance), so I couldn't help giggling when he replied "yes.... ok bye" and then left.
Anduin is more confused than she is. If anything, he should be asking her for guidance. When people are in emotional turmoil, theres actually not much you can do for them. They need to think. Sylvannas advising Anduin to face himself and begin soul searching was probably all he needed. The rest is time and effort.
@@JioVega "if anything, he should be asking her for guidance" - that's literally what he's doing in the video. And the fact that they both need time for introspection is exactly what made me think Anduin might join her. But it would've demeaned Sylvanas' repentance :p
@@The23Claws That would have been a bit.. standard in a lot hero story arcs, I'm glad that they went in a more unique manner :)
I really hope he doesn't pull a Thrall and just buggers off. I want to see Anduin grow and still lead.
Im sure we will see him return back much stronger
Well Thrall is back now and now has his armor finally on and looks like his older self again SO I AM HOPING they do him right going forward.. Seems people forget that it was basically Thrall and Grom taking on the Demons by their selves to free their people from the demon blood in their veins.. And, the sad but, heroic ending of Grom sacrificing himself to get the killing blow on Mannoroth to redeem his past mistakes.. Point is Thrall is a fkin insane badass but, I can understand him acting the way he was after he killed Groms kid cause he turned into pure evil but, its nice to see his story may get to move forward again..
If they’re still sticking to that comic and to Velen’s prophecy/vision of the future showing Anduin as an old king, he will.
@@vandakaii2893 How did he turn to pure evil? Garrosh was doing what was best for his people.
@@jamiebenn6425 Play through Siege of Orgrimmar and see what Garrosh Hellscream wants.. He is literally the end all be all boss of all of Pandaria.. Grom wanted the best for his people, Garrosh his son wanted war and death and nothing but.. This is why Thrall became weaker with the elements and for the most part losing touch with himself cause he literally was the one who struck the killing blow on Garrosh his best friends kid the guy he spent most of his young adult life helping over come the burning rage of the demon blood and then he failed at helping his son over come the anger in his heart... It basically killed Thrall for a good time.
So Anduin is more like his father than we thought.
That "Little Lion" at the end.. It used to be something she would say to taunt, and now the way she says it is almost..maternal?
She is a cougar now?
He reminds her of her younger brother that she called “Little Lord Sun.” The Sylvanas book by Christie Golden was excellent. If you like audiobooks, Patty Mattson narrates it and I thought that was a really nice touch to it.
Sisterly rather
The failure of wow's ingame lore is the reason why you dont know why she calls him that...
Its so sad...
She wants his little lion...yeah!
Mostly Horde player and I was playing my Alliance Warlock when I was given this quest and it got me right in the feels. Shadowlands is my first expansion and despite all it's criticisms - I've loved it. This felt like a good ending.
Your first expansion is always great in your eyes. People gave bfa so much crap but in an eyes of a newcomer, it was absolutely great.
my first exapansion was BFA and I loved it but i hated shadowlands, to each their own
Oh boy , you all fresh bloods. I envy you 😊
"Farewell little Lion." I'm not crying just got something in my eye 😢
that put a smile on my face,I thought we would've not seen Sylvanas again until a far away expansion,but they still have some stuff in store.
And that dialogue was beautiful,Zooval's mind control scarred Anduin WAY more than I thought,and,can't lie,I love that she still calls him "Little Lion"
It was a really cool cutscene
She called him that during the book Before the Storm, and he didn't like it because it sounded so patronizing. But here it almost sounds endearing.
IOn said that "time is different in Shadowlands". PRetty much allows them to bring her back any time and still have it be that she spent many years in Shadowlands. Also, they certainly do not want to stop using the most popular character in the franchise for a long time as well.
@@Nightdude23 That was the name she gave her baby brother, 100% meant to be endearing here.
She sees him like her little brother it was revealed in the book Sylvanus she called her baby brother 'little sun'
Good addition to the story, sad in the feels, hopefully he'll return to his hold as a king, and not abandon us to Turalyon.
Agreed
Perhaps he will return with a beard
If I were to guess, because of what he has done they will not let him back as King and the first true conflict within the Alliance will begin.
@@Jokerwolf666 like a civil war right?
@@irisrosenicholas5339 Yeah I mean they're setting it up so that hes not going to be able to take the throne and there's going to be a battle for it.
Sylvanas trying to get her dailies done
Sylvanas' voice actress is so damn good!
Patty Mattson is the best choice for Sylvanas all time. ^^
She really is 😄
Yeah it's actually really impressive. She can pull off sorrow, rage, sass, indifference, and still somehow endearing soft heartedness.
Sylvanas cares dearly about Anduin
I believe she see in him the little brother she could not say goodbye to. Little Lion for Anduin and Little Lord Sun for her own brother. This makes it all the more beautiful.
Really love this arc for Anduin and the symmetry between him and Sylvanas. Actually left me feeling excited for these characters and what their futures hold.
A modern WoW cutscene that actually made me *feel* something. With decent writing no less. I never thought I'd see it again.
WoW cinematics were always of the highest standard, and cutscenes also became decent awhile with more voice acting and in-game animations. In BfA and Shadowlands, some cinematics became just dialogues more and more, with less action and interesting stuff in them. However, these were for the most part, exceptions.
But in Dragonflight, I literally can't watch one without cringing, I would never rewatch a cinematic from the current expansion :D
Looking back and trying to not be jaded, I think all the interactions between Anduin and Sylvannas in Shadowlands were good character stories. It just sucks they screwed up the jailer so bad. Honestly they could have made him a much better villain with just a few tweaks but instead we get an example of how not to write a villain
This is beautiful. She's the perfect person to give him advice on what he's feeling.
this cinematic hits deep after reading the latest book 'Sylvanas'. Sylvanas always referred her brother as 'little lord sun'
EXACTLY!!!!
How come we haven't seen Lirath's soul yet?
@@stevenrusch6341 There are many more "afterlives" of Shadowlands than the five largest ones we've seen thus far.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м Reuploaded Comment: Oh, so that explains the missing number of souls of those faces we knew. Sure wish Blizzard would actually show us those afterlives in the distant future.
And I do appreciate your straightforward answer. Now it makes sense.
@@stevenrusch6341 woulda be fun to see all of our old villians again like deathwing, fandral staghelm (wonder if he is still a loser in death xd) of course i would've loved to have met legends like Anduin Lothar, Arthas etc but bliz basically just through together a expansion quickly just because.
Surprisingly this is a golden moment in Shadowlands. The ending interaction and the "the work begins" part is actually deep and meaninful. SOmething the expansion has lacked. (that and the the whole part about ysera's resurrection).
I actually enjoyed this more than i thought! Thx for uploading
You are Welcome 😄
What is this? Character development, coherent dialogue and... Dare I say it... decent storytelling?
Have I gone back in time?
What year is it?
Microsoft.
Microsoft's tip is up Blizzard's ass already. That's what you're seeing here. Those snippets of good writing are when it wriggles around a little. Soon, it'll go all the way in.
that was an amazing cinematic, something about it was just right!
I agree
Any time these two are in a cinematic it's good tbh.
Man, no matter what they did to Sylvanas, after reading the book, I fell even more in love with her character. I cant avoid the sad smile and little punch in the heart when i read or watch something related to her from now on. That "Little Lion" reference gets me everytime..
@Naveen KV There is. Sylvanas Windrunner and it's written by Christie Golden.
I know shit.. after all that hating her i kinda feel bad for some reason?!
It's going to take her an entire expansion to get the job done.
hope we don't se her for at least 3 expansions
@@Revens1 I wouldn't mind a check in or two but I'm definitely over her being the main focus.
Probably longer than that....an incalculable number of souls ended up in the Maw before we managed to restore the Arbiter like literally anyone anywhere that died before that all got sent to the Maw she could very well be there for many years
Anduin X Sylvannas Stonks are back up! Wrathion found quaking.
Am I the only one that looks at Sylvanas like she really feels for Anduin and I would ship these two together in a proper relationship maybe? I think they'd be brilliant xD
Credit where credit is due, when they get it right for once!
This was damned good!!!
I feel what Anduin feels is what Arthas felt when he was slowly being controlled and corrupted by Frostmourne
When he felt what Arthas felt and you felt it... I felt that.
Well, he was possessed by Arthas, or what was left of Arthas.
I never seen Arthas feel any remourse on what he was doing so no idear what u talk off
@@ricardobrands9736 Arthas was impulsive but he was not entirely evil, he had a end justified the means mindset but the moment he held frostmourne that all changed. If you played or seen the cutscene from WoW lich king dlc, after his defeat he said “all he saw was darkness” before dying even Uther spirit that was trapped in Frostmourne said he was being controlled
@@ricardobrands9736 It's not very obvious, but it's there. Matthias Lehner (child version of Arthas during the Frostmourne Cave questline), the fact that Arthas was holding the Scourge back, he still had Jaina's locket, etc. He was still in there, just buried deep. I think these small acts of defiance against the Lich King are a demonstration that yes, he did feel some form of remorse.
I’m sad and scared right now. I’m scared that he’s never going to come back to being king of Stormwind. Also I’m hurting knowing how he’s been feeling about having been dominated. On the other hand this gives us a start for the Light vs Void expansion. I’m just hurt I want my baby boy back…
He has to go through this and find himself. He is lost. He did stuff he could never have Imagined. He needs this journey
I know. Still it makes me sad.
I'm very excited for the storyline in Dragonflight dealing with Turalyon as the new King of Stormwind
@@tekumotouchiha7976 And his ascension into madness should lead to an Alliance Council being formed. Though it should’ve been formed after all Anduin did while he was dominated.
@Episode Update I feel like they will save him for a Light vs Void Expansion, could be the next after Dragonflight
I fully 100% believe now that "little lion" is like how she has nicknames for all her siblings. They draw parallels from anduin and lirath in the book. At first it sounds like she’s mocking him but I don’t think that’s the case anymore, especially here.
She actually cares for Anduin. She was the first one running to him at the end of the last raid, just before he frees himself of the Jailer's grasp.
@@renskekoenders2202 I completely agree with you. At first I didn’t like how they were writing her, but I really like how it ended honestly. The only thing I would have like to seen more of would be the three sisters interacting a bit more before her judgment.
@@alliebit Indeed. I could tell that hat they had a moment longer, Vereesa would have run up to her to give her a warm hug. I could see the pain in her eyes that final moment before Sylv jumped.
@@renskekoenders2202 oh yeah definitely. I did however feel angry towards Alleria, like it’s your sister more so than ever and you look like you could throw her in there yourself😂
But the little dialogue between her and Vereesa was nice and made me less angry at her.
@@alliebit meanwhile she was off galavanting with the void lol like everyone Azeroth thinks you serve the old gods now chill out girl lol
This is great. Imagine the afterlife, souls that hate each other have to make up for what they did to each other, one way or the other. And I knew Sylvanas was going to do a Queen of Blades Redemption arc, like many others, before the expansion came out. Saw comments everywhere stating it. While she's not a goddess, she's still undoing all the hurt and bad things, just like Starcrafts QoB.
Anyone else fell like he’s like a sec Arthas in the cinematic, like a one the never fell or how he felt to the corruption of frostmourne.
Anduin like so many other major Warcraft characters has become an Arthas clone.
Sylvanas and Little Lion REFUSING to leave the Maw until together they have freed all others.
I like how it finally shows that she sees her little lord sun in anduin
I believe this is good for Anduin so he can think about everything while wandering. And farewell Sylvanas Windrunner it's been fun.
It sure is
Thrall: The answer is simple Anduin: become a warrior! It worked for me!
Once any character loses their faith in their class, they can just pick up stick or some edged stone to become warrior -> catch phrase "AZEROTH is FREE"
Warriors a better class than those panzy shamans anyway
Im honestly really happy to see an ingame cinematic that doesnt look like garbage
Ye it looks pretty good 😄
Wish they had used it for garrosh last moment in sanctum
They made a whole new in-house tool just for better fidelity of their in game cinematics
@@Anvarynn I noticed the more recent in game cinematics have seen a massive jump in quality. Seems like something they've introduced this expansion.
It's a very welcome change, it certainly beats the older style of "character does generic /say or /yell animation loop while dialogue plays" that was everywhere in WoD.
@@arstulex It is something they introduced this expansion. They created a whole new in house tool to create in-game cutscenes that don't use prefab animations. Think the first use of it was the "Arbiter Pelagos Passes Judgement on Sylvanas" cutscene.
Finally a dramatic increase to cinematic quality in game. Considering they've decided to make WoW more story-first, I'm glad they're finally catching up the tech to make said story more immersive and rich.
Just unfortunate they're using a soon-twenty-year-old engine. Makes the spaghetti pile up high
This is REALLY good! I actually liked it a lot. Makes you think a bit about Arthas too! Perhaps at some point he gave in to the excitement and thirst for power?
Much to ponder!
*This is the last we've seen of Anduin until The War Within trailer.*
That's the tricky thing about the Light, isn't it? It's a "faith" thing. If you believe in what you're doing, it'll happen. Anduin did it, but the Scarlet Crusade also did it. The opposite would also be true. If Anduin doesn't believe in himself, *the light goes out.*
Anduin has grown so much! He is too harsh on himself. Maybe if he could find Varian and confide in his spirit, it might help heal Anduin.
Varians soul was destroyed, he doesn't even exist in the afterlife.
They made Sylvannas into a stupid evil boss, nice to see a tiny bit of her old character again. One that isn't stupid and not manipulated by anyone.
for sure sylvanas has some feeling for Anduin if sylvanas could ever get her old form back for sure they will be together
I was waiting for them to kiss
Same 😂
Classic andy here, started Shadowlands in season 4. When I played through the final story with Sylvanas and the new arbiter I really felt the heart they put into hestory. It may have been a weird decision the path they set for Sykvanas starting BFA, but apart from that, lots of great secondary stories and enjoyable arcs. Will play Wrath once again, but hat down for a lot of the retail content. The Sylvanas Anduin interactions throught Shadowlands were some of the best wow character interactions in game.
Are Anduin and Sylvanas ever going to just make out already?! I can’t be the only one that sees that tension? Great cinematic.
🙈🙈
Anduin is so admirable for already seeming to have forgiven Sylvanas for what she did to him. Not many people would have. The Light IS with you Little Lion.
What she did is literally unforgivable. Jaina hates her. Thrall hates her. Tyrande hates her. Shandris hates her. Greymane hates her. Baine hates her. Lor’themar hates her. The covenants hate her.
@@cameronmcewen9666 So much more hate than that received by Illidan. But even Maiev worked with Illidan to confront the Legion.
H really hasn't as he never taked about what she did. IT was all about what he did.
@@chriskoohkIllidan was trying to sae the world and sacrificed everything for it including himself. Sylvanas was hellbent on destroying it until she was revealed to be the pawn she was and cast aside then suddenly its a bad thing.
@@cameronmcewen9666 And Anduin forgave her, he truly carries the light of a thousand suns.
He literally sounds like Arthas, he called the light but was not sure of himself, so the light did not answer… also I was hoping he would stay there for a while and help her that’s what I thought he was going to do
He is lost. He needs to find himself
Don’t cry because you were wrong.
He did not call the light . He is afraid if he calls it , it wont answer . Learn english
@@LeystTV I think behind the scenes they'll run into each other again, kind of like an Alleria and Turalyon kind of thing. I truly feel theres a love story here with these two, its gonna be super weird because Sylvanas is old enough to be his great grandmother, but who knows maybe Anduin is in to 1000 year old half dead elves
I am glad that the didnt put her through a redemtion ark but penance instead
The work never ends
Megamind "No kiss?" meme.jpeg
😂😂😂
Man thanks a lot for what you are doing ❤️
You are welcome! :D Thanks for watching. Blizzard did the hard job
I hope thus isn't the end of sylvanas. I want more of this "free" sylvanas
that "little lion" from sylvannas felt so deep :(((
I am so happy! This is always the direction that I hoped they would take Sylvanas' character♥!
this is dragging down all of WoW story atm though... Millions arent happy because of it.
@@ltg8382 You can't please everyone¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Thankfully there are also millions of WoW fans who ARE happy because of this cinematic. Personally, these are two of my favorite characters in the lore. But even if you don't like the characters, I've seen people say they think this is the right direction for them.
Anduin: Whoa what are you doing here?
Sylvanas: This isn’t exactly what you would call Zion.
Joshua Graham: I’ve come to help you both find your way. Let’s get to it. We can’t except God to do all the work.
Sylvanas and Anduin shippers: WHY WONT YOU 2 KISS? 😭😡
Hahaha xD
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sylvanas loves ugly tools
I'm wrathion shipper 😡
This shipping is literally idiotic and brain damaged!
Idk why but when Anduin comes back I hope he has a beard.
SAME!!!
Ew no
Beards are for creepers
@@karamelapple8007 beards are cool
@@karamelapple8007 are u a fan of femboys?
beard like Anduin Lothar
Anduin: "No choice".
Sylvanas: *TRIGGERED*
I found that really funny, to be honest, for those were the exact words Anduin used against her.
- "It is perilous to confuse what you are made to do with what you choose to do"
I'd like to think that Sylvanas talks about both her and Anduin situations. As much as developers tried to sell that she was "made" to do horrible things, she herself consider it her own choice, her sins for which she must atone, all while convincing Anduin that he, as opposed to her, were actually forced into this.
It gives a cool perspective: Anduin believes that he is just like Sylvanas - succumbed to temptation of great power and choose to do evil because he isn't as good person as he believe, while Sylvanas sees in Anduin something she herself would like to be - an innocent victim of powers beyond your control.
it is unknown if arthas' soul and also his good paladin prince side soul fragment half is still out there somewhere in the maw since last remnant and flicker of arthas' soul was part of his soul and also his evil death knight and lich king side soul fragment half it is unknown if arthas' soul will be judged and redeemed by the new arbiter after zovaal's defeat since arthas was victim of domination magic and since arthas' soul was split when he carried and touched frostmourne.
Sorry, no redemption for Arthas, in fact, we're going to retcon scourge lore so rather than being unique they just copied Maldraxus in lore.
oh yes.
still have a hope for Anduin x Sylvanas romance, she is Queen he deserves and as bonus she has experience in art of war, so not some trophy wife that just sits at home.
gross
Lord no...
Call me a depraved corpse lover, but the thought of Anduin planting soft kisses on the nape of Sylvanas's neck sends chills down my spine 🥵
@@Dogmeat5010 OMG this killed me XD
My dear God,i Hope no!!!Should be disgusting
I expected that Arthas would be reborn within Anduin that fragile last whisper of Arthas did not disappeared, he went right into Anduin doubt leaving scar of the lich king changing Anduin and after that he can see the things how Arthas have seen and what he embraced. And after all where is any Jaina x Arthas ,they have exchanged 0 words between them.
A good team of scenarist probably made that in another dimension. But in our reality, Anduin need to stay as only a good mono dimensional guy.
we expect too much from modern blizzard bro... they made it clear they want to erase all old stories, even tho arthas was their greatest creation and the literal face and soul of warcraft/wow. thats why for me wow died with arthas
@@martinivanov1319 mostly because the original creator of Warcraft lore leave at the end of Legion. Once the new one take his place as director, first thing he drop was "chronicle is not fully canon anymore", at this point we all knew bu*****t will happen.
It's not Jaina x Arthas anymore, it's Jaina x Kalecgos, and considering we have a dragon expansion coming...
I for one can't wait for the cinematic where Kalec splits her in two with his dragon cock. Shit's gonna be so cash.
It's possible that the last fragment of Arthas' soul is fused with Anduin's own soul.
This hits right in the feels, but it's better than what a lot of people seemed to have been predicting. Yes, he goes to Sylvanus....but you know what? He needed her perspective and a bit of her sass to help him see the truth. None of what happened was his fault, and hopefully now he can dissect what was and wasn't his feelings but...poor thing, to think that satisfaction was something he couldn't tell if it was his or the Jailer's? That breaks my heart. Either way, I'm glad he's taking the time to himself that he needs. I don't think I could face the people that saved me so soon after those circumstances either.
Hands up for Sylvanas and Anduin getting married.
Not sure her eggs are still living 😂😂😂😂
If that really happen does that mean anduin is necrophiliac? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, I am 100% getting motherly vibes from this - not romantic 😅
Still fell if she comes back is because he asks she sees him like her little brother ( if you read the books you get it ) so if he asks for help she will come I fell like
Please dont turn him into a bad guy
what happens if anduin becomes corrupted by old gods and void powers whispers of the void and old gods thus he becomes like arthas and wrathion's father deathwing.
They were meant for each other, the babies they will have will be nothing but adorable, the way Sylvie looks at Anduin is nothing but ship worthy ♥️
Lmfao 💀💀
Bonk.
But tbh, I’m getting that vibes too.
No....It's a brother and sister relationship.
I just want to hug him T_T
They should've stayed together, he helping her help back more souls and in the process both feel atoned as he supposedly agreed that work to do be done but instead he tried to choke the emotions down with drinking and going around doing meaningless stuff until he was called in TWW.
The exhilaration feeling probably wasn't his own (likely the Arthas' piece of soul placed by the Jailer in the new sword caused the feeling, or even just the Jailer), as Anduin was never the person who acted or felt like punishment and/or retaliation should be a thing done without fair judgement first(he clearly demonstrates this an absurd amount of time over his life), so it made no sense for him feel the way he felt other than just being a human with overwhelming capacity for empathy which, alongside with his very strong willpower was why he was granted the powers of the Light, and to top that off regarding this he somehow forgot, that he was the only known individual, a mortal, with willpower strong enough to break domination magic when he had to pick a side in an ultimatum of a situation (Anduin raid boss fight/cutscene).
And his father was kind like that too but more aggressive.
This, cutscene, was not what it should be...
Out of the many atrocities we did playing as Arthas in Frozen Throne. Turning Sylvanas into a Banshee remains as my favorite.
I genuinely wish I could hug my King 🦁
Same! He needs a hug
I really enjoy their lowkey aunt / nephew energy. It’s really interesting and compelling
The shipper in me wants them to end up together or at the very least have some form of relationship maybe turn Sylvie into Anduin's emotional support mommy that everyone hates even though she does try to help out Anduin or something?
This is well done!
It sure is
May they find peace wherever they go and whatever they face
this hit close to home, anduin is scared to call onto the light because it might not answer.
but maybe the light will answer. idk alls had the understand the light knows u better than any one else.
Sylvanas... i miss you..
Little lion to be the next BIG BADIE after dragonflight?!?!! Could it be
I fucking love Sylvanas
I love her even more after Reading the book
I feel bad for Tyrande's owl...to have to be there in that horrible place, The Maw for however long it takes to save all those lost souls....remember all these souls that don't belong in the maw are in there since Argus soul disrupted the Arbiter and knocked him out of commission...
And remember you can't fly in the Maw. The poor thing must walk everywhere on its tiny legs... :(
If I were there I'd yell them "Just hook up already!"
be like the light from Azeroth...
"HEEEEYYYY! You two should kiss!"
As an old head of WoW this interaction gives me thoughts that Slyvannas will come back at some point..The warcraft universe does move in years between expansions so we will probably see her soon.
Midnight
Omg, ngl this made me emotional 😭 I still love Sylvanas so much. This cinematic was hard to watch tbh. But Blizz did a great job with this!
Sylvanas doing torghast runs for all eternity
Tyrande whisperwind just left chat
World of Warcraft: Therapylands
Poor Dori'thur, stuck in the Maw with Sylvanas :(
The king uploaded
Always xD haha
/shrug I could see them together. They would balance each other out fairly well I think. As for the actual cinematic, it’s been a long while since I’ve felt a Blizzard in game cinematic was done well. Emotions, facial expressions, body language, etc. Would love to see something with Kael’thas and Lothar.
Please do not start this crap, at least because he's not even 20 and she's thousands of years old. Plus undead.
She can advise him, but that's the extent of it. And even then, the possible length of a lifespan affects a person's mentality greately. Perspective of someone who is capable of living thousands of years might not be useful for someone who is unlikely to hit a hundred.
It looks more like he reminds her of Lirath, her younger brother, and even her nicknames for both are similar.
Guess I’m not the only one that got a romantic vibe. I think Anduin admires her, feels sorry for her. Stockholm syndrome maybe
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м Actually, you completely correct this was shown a bit in warcraft 2 and 3 up to where she died and she failed to defeat Arthas and in that defeat Arthas did not just torture but sacrificed 9/10 Blood Elves to raise Kel'Thuzad furthermore corrupting the sun well.. In that defense her brother was struck down as well.. Hence, why when she came back she came back as basically Vengeance incarnate. So I can completely see why she has this sort of big sister vibe over Anduin.. I do wonder cause it was not shown if her brother was raised up as an undead as well and lost control of himself to Arthas's will and in this she seen the same happen to Anduin and felt for him cause of something she went thru with her lil bro..
@@vandakaii2893 You confuse characters, though. Lirath died in Second War, when Quel'Talas was warring against the Horde, not during Scourge invasion.
She was, however, *very* fond of him, that much is true, and one of the Jailer's trump cards was that the Arbiter separates families in afterlife (hey, Draka), so she's unlikely to meet Lirath again... unless she helps Zovaal to break the machine of Death.
I think Lother is in the either Light, Order, or even the Life/Nature version of the Afterlife.
According to Blizzard each of the six factions have their own Afterlives with their own Zereths, like how Death has the Shadowlands and Zereth Mortis.
Anduin sounds like Pyke in Vox Machina.
Hopefully they make themselves useful and find dead characters we want to come back. Although if I was writing this I'd have Ner'zul, now free of the Jailer, do a jailbreak on Torghast and free the souls of various dead characters like Gul'dan(after merging the two separate Gul'dan's together) and Teron Gor, have Ner'zul take Torghast for himself, become the Leader of a new Necromancer class and have Torghast be the new Necromancer Order Hall.
You destroyed what was left of Nerzhul in Sanctum (or at least ppl that did that raid did)
TBH, would've taken another Lich King (Anduin) with another scourge like invasion, without ending anduin as a consequence. Would've been more interesting imo.