SONY A7IV OR A7SIII | Watch THIS Before You Buy...
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- SONY A7IV OR A7SIII | Watch THIS Before You Buy...
My thoughts on the Sony A7SIII vs A7IV!
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I chose the a7IV (arriving tomorrow) because Im a photographer who shoots video. The APS-C crop at 4K60p isn't a big deal to me, pretty much every cinema camera has a sensor right around that same size anyways. Plus at 4K24 and 30, the IV downsamples from 7K, something the a7SIII can't even come close to matching. I thought all the video guys always say to shoot at 24fps anyways? I'll take video shot in 7K over video shot in 4.2K all day every day. They are both great cameras but Id rather have the much better resolution and a more capable photo camera than full 4K60 shot at only 4.2K.
I have an A7R4 and A7S3 and I often find I only take my S3 because of the great video and the photos are still really nice. If you are using on social media and websites the S3 12MP photos are plenty good.
same like u, l just want to sell my A7r4 and tu buy a A74
Got the same setup. Don’t see a need to upgrade just yet.
How is A7siii still pictures for event photography album Printing?
how different is the video tho ? like RAW to RAW where is the difference.
at the start of this video, i really couldnt tell the difference on which cam was which. looks same same to me
I ended up going with the a7siii a few weeks ago
xin chào
How do you like it when taking photos?
@@joenguyenps a7S3 is great for photos, compressed RAW files are easier to handle & store
@@joenguyenps It's terrible for photos! I personally use it only for videos to shoot weddings (especially indoors cause it's great for the low light environment) & video portraits but never use it for photos cause even with my 85mm 1.4 lens images are not sharp. Once you zoom it in, you'll see that the skin is distorted and you can't do retouching. So A7siii is only for videos and you can snap some photos for your insta but def not for clients. I wouldn't risk it.
@@ReginaMirova oh good that’ll be bad news for me 😩😩😩😭
I guess this is "if I only had 1 choice" vid, but the IV is gonna be a great B-cam to my A7S3.
I answered your intro question right! 80% lucky 20% pixel peeping through sharpness
what are you watching his video on my guy 😂
Same, the a7siii was just a tiny bit sharper. I’m watching on an iPhone 11 Pro and I set the video quality to 1440p
the left side was noticeably sharper, but that's not where I was expecting to see a difference.
Rip the mobile users who tried to do this challenge
@@DjAce15 its actually the other way round! A7 iv is sharper in 4k30 because it uses oversampling from 7k!
I would go A7 IV because I do take pictures when traveling etc. but the crop at 60fps bothers me…
yeah such a deal breaker for me too
What does it mean if it is cropped?
@@julieannhobbs6456 when you shoot at 60fps the image is ‘cropped/reduced’ by a factor. From what I heard I believe it’s 1.5 time for the A7 IV. That for example means that if you have a given lens on, say a 35mm, the focal will vary when you move from 24fps to 60fps.
It’s a bit like if you full frame would become an APSC when changing frame rate.
They studied the whole marketing plan very well unfortunately 😭
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms they probably only gave use a higher MP sensor to justify the crop lol when reality no one really wanted a 33mp sensor
I could notice the difference. The a7SIII has a smoother colour and highlight/shadow transition that pushes it closer to the FX line cameras. The A7IV is detailed but has more of a digital feel. Of course, these are only evident when you compare them side by side.
Yup... plus S3 seemed to have more details in the shadow. Only comparing them side by side paused...
I noticed the same thing!
Surely, I also noticed this with pause On.
Cap
And lowlight is better
I pre-ordered the a7iv, I really want the bigger pics for family & travel photography but I also love top notch video quality for vlogging :)
I JUST placed my order for the Sony A7Slll and will be picking it up mañana!! I was stuck between the two! Because of this video let me just say . . . GRACIAS AMIGO!!!!!
I love that the 7IV has 4K60, but the crop is a huge disappointment. The 7SIII is to expensive and only have 12 MP. Because I do photo and video i’ll wait until the 7IV gets a little bit cheaper…
12mp is a good thing. Less noise in low light and high resolution.
Could this crop be solved in a future firmware update? Maybe we should All push sony for it! The camera is capable…
@@SamuelJamesVideos exactly, people are always caught up on mp, but don’t understand the science behind it and all the other factors. The siii takes some beautiful photos and I’ve printed a lot of the pics I’ve taken and they look great.
@@manelgarciaprats I sure hope so!!
@@manelgarciaprats that would be awesome
Super useful camera at that price point. The elephant in the room is the horrific rolling shutter in video mode. As a note, I do find the A7S III has that creamy cinematic edge, less clinical.
I would say: 'both camera's are great hybrid shooters, being the A7SIII leaning more to filming and the A7M3 more to stills' However I have the A7S3 and I must say, its perfect for my needs. My main things are concerts and events... for that I want superbe low light capabilities and SPEED! Before the sun comes up, my photo's have to be ready for social or else someone with a smartphone steals my place in the media.
The A7S3 lets me take shots no one else can and the 12MP stills unload and proces lightning fast... and it would be great to have 33MP and the 3-way switch...
This comment is perfect because I'm in the same realm!
Thanks for the videos Peter, they were very well organized, and out of all the ones I’ve seen were presented the best! Problem with these comparisons, and you said it yourself, is that when you take the a7iv and compare is to the a7siii, you are comparing apples to oranges. The S is over a grand more and made for video primarily and then you have the hybrid. People just don’t understand that you can’t make the A7 series the same as the S series, or you might as well just make it an S series…
People seem to want/expect the A1 or A7siii at the price that the a7iii is currently going for. Like cars, clothes, RC cars, computers…there are levels to this. You can’t expect a rock crawler to also perform like a lambo!
I would of bought a7iv but 4k 60fps crop factor is a deal breaker.
I'm not a video person can someone explain what the big deal is about that?
@@22s22a The crop factor means only a fraction of the sensor will be used to capture videos in 4K 60fps mode which will result in a zoomed in video compared to regular modes such as 4K 24fps or 1080p. The crop will also mean you have less flexibility for zooming in when you edit because it's already zoomed in from the camera and you will lose quality
@@ChevaughnBeckford so 60fps means you get to have that slow motion 4k video?
@@22s22a yeah, you can slow 60fps down to 40%
@@ChevaughnBeckford i feel if Video is your primary focus, the A7Siii would do the job yes? Since this is Hybrid in A7IV... Why are people upset that it has compromise?
If i had the choice of the two i would go for the SIII every time.. 12 Mpix is plenty for big prints(50x70cm)..
100% a7siii the 7iv disappointed with 4k60 only in crop
Disappointed?? They both are in same price ?? Stupid people 😄
@@hardikdhameliya3428 idk where you live but the a7iv ist 2800€ while a7siii ist 4100€. Also the rolling shutter on the a7iv is Same as a7iii really Bad.
Comparing $3498 vs $2499 Is this guy is noob ??? 😄
I really want to get a photo camera. I have an A6500 with a Atomos recorder for prores 4:2:2 10 bit 4k... Although the A7siii is my dream I feel like I have what I need for video but not photo. But the A7iv sounds like a good video camera as a back up maybe or for talking heads videos....
Any opinion, because I'm torn. Also not sure what the next camera is coming and if it's best to wait.
a7iv is solid pick
Peter nailed the explination.
I mostly do event photography & video work. Sometimes special photo ops happen in seconds and in that situation, the A7IV is great for having the flexibility to crop the photos later in post. HOWEVER, if I had to pick one, it would be the A7SIII. Don't let the 12mp sensor fool you. Its great at taking photos. I've done professional gigs for photo and video with just the A7SIII.
The reason why I got the IV was to have a capable but cheaper 2nd camera body so I didn't need to waste time swapping lenses.
I really like your explanation and mentioning that the 12 megapixel still takes great photos I am coming from the A7R2 however I am now doing about 90% video work I’ve literally never crop the photo ever usually use different lenses or a 24 to 70 which pretty much covers my needs for that the 873 seems to be calling my name but I am a little bit worried with that 12 megapixel I mainly do social media work so I’m guessing the 12 megapixel photos won’t be too much of an issue for me my biggest thing about crops is that they do not change the focal compression so I tend to swap lenses anyway to get the desired focal length not just a crop do you guys think the A7S three would work for me considering I am doing primarily video and see myself using 60 frames per second quite regularly
@@willawtry5119 100% Yes! If you're doing more video work, I'd recomend getting a A7SIII or a FX3 if you're in the market for a sony system. Like you, I try to do most of the work in-camera so cropping isn't much of an issue for my type of filming. Otherwise, I've done event & corporate photos and videos with the A7SIII with no complaints or issues.While the megapixel count is smaller than most, the megapixel size is physically bigger and allows for better dynamic range. great for low light and extreme high noon desert lighting. I've had my A7SIII for a little over a year and I have no complaints other than the memory cards needed to shoot at higher framerates are extremely expensive, so i'd look into that before purchasing. Happy shopping!
@@TheArtofLight Thank you man! Im super glad to hear this!! I also have an A7R2 which covers me fine for photography, I may bring that with me on shoots for photo :) if I really need specific stills but that would be rare :)
pre-ordered the A7 IV yesterday with Tarmon 28-75 F2.8. Using lumix s5 right now. Cheaper hybrid than the A7 IV but the same specs(4.2.2 10Bit, 4k60p 1.5crop ect. so crop is not a big deal for me) But the sony lens line up worth the change for me if i think on the future. At my level of videography the A7SIII is OverPowered as hell AND EXPENSIVE...! If i feel confortable with the a7IV and got the right lenses for my setup. I'll MAYBE get the a7S IV in the future!
Nice vid as always.
First, I like your Swinglish accent. Second, I have pre-ordered the A7iv. Yes, I would love the A7Siii. That being said, I think the A7iv is more impressive than some are making it out to be. When it comes to cameras, I think more people complain about stuff that has little to do with their day to day uses of these cameras. For instance, corner sharpness. In my view, its one of the least relevant or important features in a camera. Partly because I shoot mainly video, and I think photographers are more concerned with corner sharpness than anyone else. That being said, I can't think of one time when I went to a photo gallery and even thought about looking at the corners of a photo I was viewing. Plus, I think it's hilarious when reviewers zoom in on a corner at around 300-400%, as if anyone would actually 'zoom in' that close when looking at a photo. Except for maybe a photographer.
Anyway, there are SO many things I think people worry about when it comes to cameras that I find to be a waste of brain power that it would make my comment longer than needed.
Bottom line. I'm getting the A7iv. And I couldn't be more excited.
Its easy, if you do a lot of slowmotion get the a7siii, other than that the a7iv beats it in everyway…
I produced two YT channels And bought my A73 when they released, resisted the A7Siii for short time but broke down and got one when I could 1st of ‘21 AND just ordered the A74…. Man the siii is hard to hate.. even at $3600
I brushed off the a7sIII's photo capability because it only had 12mp but the colors are waaaaay better than my a7iii so I always end up using the sIII for photos and it's a lot quicker to switch modes that to switch cameras.
same here, using a7S3 for photography instead of a7iii, compressed RAW are easier to handle & shutter is quieter
Been wondering myself if I should go for the A7siii since I will end up using my A7iii as a B cam. I guess it's better if I focus more on video, especially since the A7iii is (still) so good at taking photos.
The crop on 4K60 and the rolling shutter are a no for me. Anyway, great video Peter!!
same !
Is rolling shutter an issue on the A7 sIII?
@ nope and on the a7 IV is just as bad as on the a7 iii
@@cris_stn good to know, thanks!
Yup me too!
is this crop in 4k60fps a software thing and could be perhaps fixed in a future software update or is it a hardware limitation and there's nothing we can do about it? How about using a capture card and connecting the camera to it by HDMI or those Atomos ninja recorders - can they remove that limitation?
I feel it's hardware design, might be wrong but a7iii/a6100-a6600 didn't get any 4k30 un-cropping software upgrades so things will likely stay same, also 33mp is a ton of data to process/not to mention increased heat - so crop makes sense
Which is better for videos and which is better for photos and which is better for both.
I guessed it right by the highlights in the lighting in the top right the dynamic range is better
when I need a smile on my face you always put it there. Thanks.
As a Video Shooter always A7SIII. If A7IV wouldn't have 4k6p in 1.5 crop I would definitely go with A7IV. I think Sony is also giving competition to its own models.
Probably going to buy this A7 IV as B cam for my A7S III. I like to shot pictures expecially when traveling and that extra "quality" will be the sweet spot. For commercial use the S and the higher frame rate with no crop is still the best for me.
Don’t forget the rolling shutter on the a74 is still horrendous compared to the a7s3
I Would have rather they improved the rolling shutter and Ibis than upping the mega pixels
@@hubbablahloo1843 yesss!
@@hubbablahloo1843 The rolling shutter is a side effect of the increased MP. It's too much data for their lower grade processors to move through when down-rezzing from 7k. Its annoying for sure but I don't shoot much action stuff... a lot of seated interviews etc.
I can see why people are disappointed but I also had the expectation it was never going to be an A7iii repeat where it blew everyone away.
BUT as someone who shoots on an A7siii for video it should be an excellent stills camera and B cam because 12mp does annoy my from time to time when it comes to photography
@@EdwardWischer just feels like this cam isn't as revolutionary as it's predecessor. I feel Sony is losing it's competitive spirit because feel like they have "arrived" and don't have to be that competitive anymore esp. with the price they are asking for
@@hubbablahloo1843 I’d agree it isn’t the surprise the A7iii but I wouldn’t argue Sony has lost its edge. Siii and A1 within the last year. One of their cameras had to be the basic model and maybe we are just a little spoilt for features over the last 4 years from Sony. One camera had to be a bit disappointing along the way! Just a shame it’s a follow up to one of the most successful cameras of all time
This camera is so close! Sony really missed the mark by handicapping the 4k 60 to crop mode. I realize that they didn’t want to cannibalize their A7SIII/FX3/A1 sales, but competition is getting fierce in this camera space. For those of us looking for a solid hybrid shooter we want the megapixel of this camera with at least true 4k 60. My other two gripes are the rolling shutter issues and only including 1 CF express card slot.
I’m curious if the 4K 60 limitation is only a firmware handicap and if they could activate it with a software update if we create a lot of noise!
I read that they used the same chip as the A7iii, meaning that it’s a hardware limitation. You can do 4K 30 uncropped but the 4K 60 has to be cropped. My guess would be to avoid overheating.
I think 1080p 120fps in 10bit instead of 8bit would be more important than 4k60 without crop.
Let make a lot of noise for this downgraded feature. Sony may be caring about selling their products by getting things right a little bit at a time. They get you to buy two rather than just one. Let's STOP buying these cameras for several months and see what they are going to do.
@Alfred S. Sikula Yes. I am not buying wo 4k60.
@@xkben90 I wouldn’t think it’s only about overheating. Processing power and the data bus bandwidth are probably limiting factors here.
Easy to spot differences between both cameras. Looks like I'm skipping a7 iv because of the crop factor!
Comparing $3498 vs $2499 Is this guy is noob ??? 😄
no lie the crop dont seem like a big issue I still use my a7iii with sony 35mm 1.8 oss and some times in full frame mode wit clear image zoom. I can see a lot of people who still have sony aps-c lenses making full use of this crop mode with no issue. also super 35 has always been a standard for video idk why all the new hype for full frame is annoying to focus manually due to the depth of field I prefer aps-c for video and full frame for photos....just the. way it's always been
@@str8poisintv131 tell that to the owners of primes 20/24/35/50 who bought FE lenses and was planning to get IV for 50/60 fps. Why sony put high end processor which can do all-i and 120 and limits with crop?
@@360fullhd So not to undercut their sales of the a7Siii
@@Pfagnan ppl who need 120 they will go with fx3/a7s3 they know why they need it and where to use it. It wont effects Sony sales if it would be 60 with no crop. Sony would benefit from it and increase more sale for a7 iv and lenses.
Helpful information as always, Peter! Did you have a chance to compare stabilization and 4K 50/60p rolling shutter between the SIII and 7IV? Curious how they compare on those 2 fronts. I know both now have the Active stabilization available now, just wondering if they are indistinguishable or one is better than the other on that front. Some of the reviews I've watched with regard to rolling shutter at 4K/24p on the 7IV appeared disappointing and not an improvement over the 7iii, but I'd love to see a stacked comparison between the [cropped in] 4K 100/120p on the 7IV and Siii. I think there's a story there...
I don't miss the rolling shutter on A7iii. A7iv seems similar. Would stick with A7siii for that reason alone. I don't do whip pans but it's the jello effect when shooting handheld that really bothers me with A7iii. I was editing some old A7iii footage yesterday and was thinking "What's with the jello?!", then I remembered what it used to be like. A7siii is SO much better when it comes to rolling shutter.
I bought the A7IV on BlackFriday and it arrived last week, in this short time so much happened in my neighbourhood and I was amazed, how the Camera performs in video mode and photo mode as well. I shot some pics of Fireman’s who fought against a Category 3 fire in my neighbourhood. I got some incredible good photos out of the cam which I’m editing right now in Lightroom and I think it’s the perfect Hybrid cam for the money I paid. I got a very good deal and paid 1880€ for the Body brand new of a Local Photoshop. And the price of the A7sIII is too high for me right now. I mean it’s two times the money I paid for my A7IV.
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I’m using the FX3 so the a7iv is a perfect b cam (instead of the A1 which I’d love but can’t afford lol) as I often do a little product photography. The crop in 4k60 doesn’t matter to me as this camera would be my second interview cam for video and nothing more.
You're in the perfect situation to get the A7iv
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms Im thinking of making my A cam the A7siii, and then B cam the A74. Also for photo my A74 would be A cam!
@@PurseyProductions if I get the A7siii I'll make it my first camera for video and I would keep my A6500 for photos due to the 24 mp and use it as a second camera for video too. I could possibly sell the A6500 and all its lenses tho and use that money to replace it with a second hand A7iii
@@PurseyProductions perfect combo! I approve😁
@@ClaudioDesideriFilms had a lot of time to think about this… and I’ll probably keep my A7C as it’s 24mp, small and compact plus flip out screen, eye AF in video and great AF video and use this as a B cam against my A7S3
Most people don't talk about being able to get 4K in aps-c mode. Many video lenses are not full frame, and you can't get 4K from them with the A7Siii, you can with the A7IV.
I need a hybrid camera, as I do a lot of photography. So maybe the A7IV, but I really would love to be able to do 4K60 without the crop. So I guess none of them is the right camera for me. Great video, as always!
Dammm im switching to sony from my Nikon z6
4:01👌👌 real facts on video is here
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Peter! The a7siii is amazing but since I also do print photo work on top of video, the 33MP is huge for me. I'm willing to give up 60 and 120fps in 4k. Also the a7siii is $1000 out of my range lol
Finance it if you really need too. Affirm does 12 month payments 0% APR.
I just ordered a A74. I own a A7S III and while my intention was to switch to the a74.. I think I will wind up keeping both.
Getting the A7S3 tomorrow! Thanks for convincing me further 😄 Whats the song name btw!?
The A74 feels like beeing the first cam Sony cut a little bit too much. If you have an A73 like I do, there are basically no real reasons to upgrade, other than a few more mp and a slightly better autofocus, which let's be honest, was in 9/10 cases already good enough to do the job on the A73, there is almost no improvement on the silent/wobble shutter and only 10fps.. and on the video side it's not comming with enough features to justify the price.. they should have gone with FF 4k60 and cropped 4k120p, 5 or 6k30p etc.. that would have been a no brainer to buy.. but like this.. I'll pass and get a more video centric cam for the money...
Don't agree. Than a7siii would have been too pricey (it costs now almost the same price as of release, I bought it in summer, costed 3.5k euro with VAT (so cheaper 100 euro)) or this camera would cost 4k and would start to compete with a1
@@Donbros The A7SIII for what it offers imho is overpriced too. Its basically the 4k120 you pay that heavty pricetag for.. low resolution/light sensor not so much.. And back in the days the A73 also beat the A7SII in almost every category while beeing cheaper and getting many of the nice features of the A9. So Sony already did that. But not this time, at least not as much.. I mean look at the card slots.. 50 or even a 100 bucks more for a dual CFE/SD reader solution would have been a no brainer.. but not.. just one.. meh. Some (really nice!) features just usable with some Sony lenses.. meh. No open gate.. meh.. only 10(!) fps.. also in silent mode?! Big meh!
If you don't have the A73, dont get me wrong, this will be a FINE camera. But not for someone who already owns an A73 and wants more/better video features.. If I invest my 2-3k in a used Panasonic cam, like an S1H, it would get me a lot further in video terms, than with the A74 or A7S3 for almost the same money.. the only thing here would be the autofocus performance.. and my guess is, with the GH6 and later S1HII, panasonic will surpise us with a new AF solution...
Being able to shoot in 4k 10bit is enough reason to throw the A73 in the bin to be honest ;)
4k60 Cropped? Oh No!
I thought it had same processor as A7Siii?
Are Sony deliberately under powering their cameras?
Really disappointed for the price it doesn't have uncropped 4K60.
Definitely a Deal breaker.
Can’t undercut their sales of a7Siii
How about buying Both if you need two Cameras?
I have the A7s3 and was going to sell and buy the A7IV but I’m a little underwhelmed with A7IV video wise, the crop at 4k 60 and rolling shutter put me off, plus I can still get banging pictures with A7siii. I also thought it would at least get the A7Siii screen, but hey ho you can’t have it all.
To be really honest I did see a difference... I admit it was almost minimal, but there was a difference... and I guessed right that the left picture was the a7siii. The a7IV seemed like having a bit less of dynamic range.
I'm using the A7sIII for video and the A7rIII for photo.
Sony a7iii (not S, just the original a7iii) or a7iv is better for videos? What is your opinion?
I narrowed all my lenses down to just three. My 2 favorite focal lengths 24 gm and 50 1.2 gm along with a backup 24-70. I say that to say this. The crop factor would completely eliminate my favorite parts about both primes.
What is the crop factor?
12mm APSC lens for $375 & you can get 4K/60 at 20mm equiv… you are welcome
@@AJCoReTV 🤦🏿♂️ if my favorite focal lengths are 24, 50 why would O look for a 20????? I already have the 16mm which is equivalent to 24. But with an A7iii i have no reason whatsoever to to want an A7iv
@@Mperrymanstudios I’m coming from an A7C… which I’m keeping as a B-cam. A7C crops at 4K/30… too many upgrades to ignore for me to not upgrade to the A74 for both video & photo. Sounds like you made up your mind, so long as you are happy, enjoy the heck out of it.
Would love to see a comparison between the A74 and the A1, very hard to justify the price difference between them!
I bought both. Tests in a week. We'll see which one will do better.
Would have to go with the A7IV just because of budget. Coming from an A6400 it's a huge improvement and about $2000 less than the A7SIII. As a student I can't justify the A7SIII even though I exclusively do videography 🥲🥲
Same here
I’m here trying to figure out what to upgrade from my a6400. Might be in the same boat as you
Same as you
Upgrading a6400 aswell
Upgrading from the 6400 as well. Just sold my old kit now ready to jump all over the A7IV. In my budget and I don’t need 4K 120 And video I shoot ( mostly commercial/cooperate) I won’t notice any rolling shutter issues. I hope haha
Is the Sony A7IV any good for shooting a video indoors in low lighting (like if one's face is lit only by a candle)? I just don't have so much money for the A7Siii.
yes it's great for low light, 4k 24/30 is oversampled from 7k so this large sensor is being utilized to it's full potential
I love the A7IV, price was not an issue, I had bought A1 and sent it back because I simply couldn't justify the $6500 when the A7IV meets and exceeds my hybrid needs. I love the A7IV, used the A7SIII and it is a good camera but for my short films, I use Red Cameras. The Lumix S5 is another great example of a hybrid camera and now you can get it with a lens for $1700
what about IBIS + OSS stabilisation for hand-held walking-shooting-vlogging - are the two cams identical?
Can you shoot 1080p in 10 bit 60/120 fps? and if does the 1080p look good?
The A7SIII has another important feature that A7IV doesn't have is the Auto White Balance sensor locate in front of camera, next to the IR sensor. I'm sure the A7SIII auto white balance will be more accurate than the A7IV. Up until now, I think the only 2 cameras that have this external AWB sensor are A1 and A7SIII.
useful info thx, FX3 should have it too yes?
Helpful video, thanks!
I have a FX6 as my A CAM
and so I think that A7IV will be perfect as a B CAM - cheaper than A7SIII, great options and perfect for photography. Hope I will not regret because of low light performances of A7IV.
in the same boat w/ FX6 as A cam, have you gone with anything yet?
I already have an a7Siii and I LOVE it. I also have a Nikon D90 for those OG photos I may take. LOL. Thanks Peter!
It's coming "home" to take the place nr.1, A7III goes to nr.2, A6400 to nr.3 and the A5100 becomes the overhead camera. I'm a hybrid shooter and the addition of 33MP is more of an argument than the compromising cropping in 4K 60. I'll be fine.
I think for a pro they work great together for anyone upgrading from a73 it’s a solid buy
Tbh the only way i could tell a difference is the slightly higher resolution in the intro on the right side. If you watch it on a high res screen the difference was noticeable but its so damn close you wont be able to tell without a side by side. Nice video!
i would like to choose a7iv for single camera with hybrid usage. but if i had an A cam such as fx3 or a7s3, this a7iv is a good choice for second cam.
exactly what I am getting it for. Colour science, flip screen and 4:2:2 and as someone who shoots 50/50 photo and video I will be excited to have both of these in my kit! But I also understand why people who shoot with 1 cam and don't have an Siii would be disappointed with the video features
@@EdwardWischer for 1 cam person of hybrid use, this camera contain two problems: only 3 fps shooting with sd card, super 35 4k 60p
@@homonki8795 I suspect Sony will firmware update their 4K 60 APSC if sales are not what they expected
And the FPS is disappointing I won’t lie but I am not a sports or wildlife shooter. I shoot food and occasional portraits.
So I don’t need it but it is still 10fps lossless compress raw and apparently if you have a CFX type A card it can basically just be held down on the shutter because the write speeds are so quick.
Investing in a better SD card is worth it if you are run and gun
Thanks Peter! Based purely on budget, I'd go for the A7IV. What about form factor between the two? Are they so similar that the A7SIII cage will fit the A7IV?
Have no idea if the cage will fit, don’t have the camera anymore 🙂
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you didnt really talk about the rolling shutter issues of the A7IV
Even if it was just an a7 III with 10 bit 4:2:2, I would have still bought it 😂 so the crop isn't a deal breaker for me. It's a great b-cam to the a7siii (for video support and photo)
My thoughts exactly. I feel people have been spoiled and just want everything all the higher end cameras have and not pay for it.
Dead on, feel the same way.
Lol both at same price ??? Compare with r6.
getting a7iv
Just for reference to anyone reading I'm a 100% video background guy, but Ive always done event coverage and UA-cam style videos for people . and Ive always had a secondary camera for pictures. that set up has always worked great for me, but been using the same cameras for years, and I'm peaking at what I can squeeze out of them quality wise. I'm still using an a7sii and a canon 6d with sigma art lenses (my videos still look great even todays standards). Getting into wedding now, and music videos. a lot of clients always want pictures here and there. they kind of want you to be the all around guy, I up charge if they want that instead of a dedicated video shoot. but for MY ease of use case a hybrid would work. the extra grand from a7iv to the a7siii ill be using towards a drone. I don't have a drone yet. it wont cover a drone. but it will help towards getting the drone. I really want 4k 120 but man.
so my mindset right now is that a drone, and a hybrid camera will allow me to get more clients. with more clients means more money, more money means. i get an a7siii and an R something eventually . I'm known in my town for shit talking people who get a7 (non R non S) because Ive always said its for people who don't know if they want to do pictures or video. but now after working in all these different industries and getting paid. its not really so much what you want, its more what the clients want. obviously you want to have creative control etc. but the happier that client is the more recommendations you get the more they become repeat clients. and it all goes back to the saying where you got to make them work for you. working for them, works for you! so getting this money is the move.
the drone i want cost around 8K after everything. but ill be opting in for one that cost around 2500. instead. for the time being. get clients, get paid, upgrade as i go, as i upgrade get higher paying jobs, upgrade. its been working so far. i started with an a5100 and kit lens. now i have 3 editing computers, 2 have 3090s cause why not. but this goes over a lot of peoples heads when it comes to buying equipment. what jobs does one choice offer you over the other, cause in the end the client is who pays you.
side not to all this also, that crop wont matter to me since i already shoot cropped because i use a sigma 16 f1.4 for most video shoots. once cropped it becomes a 24 mm f2.0. My videos still come out super clear on the a7s2 when it is focused. the new AF on a7iv will alleviate those problems. (again i have a whole other camera for pictures, the a7sii stays on my ronin basically forever, i dont even swap bats because i have an external).
naise sir! love how you manage the intro
Please add in the fx3 🤣
I can't buyy both 🤣🤣🤣
But I love watching them😢😢
Peter, would you be able to please let me know if A7S-III cages would fit the A7-IV?
It does. It’s literally the same body. The battery grip works as well.
I opted for the A7IV even though I primarily shoot video. If they were the same price I'd probably choose the SIII, but I don't feel like I'm missing that much. Not to mention the A7IV has more detailed 4K, it's got Movie, Stills S&Q dial and it's a newer camera so it should hold it's value longer. I never find myself needing 4K 120 and in many situations the 4k 60 crop is actually more if an aid than a hinderance for the type of videos I shoot.
Are you experiencing any overheating issues with the A7 IV?
Agreed! I have the same thoughts when it comes to the A7iv. Thought about the A7Siii and i keep thinking about it too.
It's good you're simply using the tool that suits your needs most. I opted for the a7S III as I love the 4K 120p and my weddings benefits from the low light dynamics, although a7 iv isn't too bad in low light either.
In the intro the A7SIII looked a good bit sharper, and the skin tones were better. I really didn't like my A7III, so I'll be sticking with the A7SIII until something in this price range can replace it and actually make signfiicant upgrades. I don't want to buy this camera solely for photo capability, which is what it's looking like to me. My A6000 shoots decent enough photos.
Are you serious! These UA-camrs Got people believing that in order to get great video you need 4K 60 frames per second! This is just not true! And please don’t judge the color accuracy based on watching a UA-cam channel! This is very misleading! 4K 24 FPS IS Cinematic quality! Unless you’re doing slow motion, there is no need for 120 frames per second or even 60 frames per second! However you can never change the physical pixel density in any software but software can give great slow motion scenes.
Is A7Siv coming this year ?
Its not coming at all
If you guys use A7S3 for video production you won't buy A74. Yeah, I'm using A7S3 for past two years , it's my life changer & I'm waiting for a A7S4 , It's so simple if you are a Pro Photographer try - A7R series If
Pro Videographer try - A7S series
A73, A74 is good for beginners & intermediate photographers & videographers
I went to a festival in 2021 and I rented the a7s3 with a 70-200 and omg it was the most fun setup I've ever used. I used it for photos and video and I have to say the image quality was definitely a big step up coming from someone who regularly uses an a6300. Its a bit out of my price range but i had the most fun shooting with that and the a7s2. Currently shooting with an a6600 but nothing near what the s3 can do in terms of video and photo. The 6600 is good but not great. It does not offer the lowlight capabilities of the a7s3. That thing can shoot in straight-up pitch black. I shoot alot of concerts and festivals so having a camera that's good in lowlight like the a7s3 was a gamechanger for me. For now though I'm okay with my a6600 setup!
Ill give you a REALLY good hint for where the links pop up: Its on you watch and ring arm! There, you can thank me later. Also... Still undecided between the 2 models. Megapixels or filming.... What to do, what to do?!
Will be probably getting the a7iv, because I usually take pictures, but good video is great to have.
I answered the first question correct by looking at the harsh light on the right the a7siii dynamic range displayed a slight better image on that side
If take some photos and videos, A7iv or A7Siii prefer to buy ?
so mostly video? a7s3 makes sense then, but a7iv is good for video too - just a bit different
Thanks for the vid Peter😁 My next camera will be A7SIII or A7IV... and now i know what to choose😉
SONY A 7 S 3 HANDS DOWN. If you do you more pictures than video. Go with the Sony A 7 4. If you do video A 7 4 is not for you. No 4 k full sensor, No 4 k 120. The Sony A 7 s 3 is beast for video.
I got the intro question right, it was easy to tell, but I still ordered the A7 IV. I mainly do 4k@24fps, so a crop at 60fps is not an issue. I think if the cameras were the same price I might consider the a7s III since I am mostly doing video. I am upgrading from an a7 III btw
How have you liked it compared to the a7III ?
@@fffernxndo It's much better, a big step up, ergonomics, menus, focus, etc. No regrets, also, a7III appears to have premature shutter failures
7iv is a crop mode only for 60fps, but 24fps is full frame right?
There is a benefit to the crop factor at 60, you can turn the disadvantage into an advantage for when you're using a prime lens and need a quick zoom.
So, did you film the rest of this video on the A7RIV? 😅
Great video as always🤘. We went from the A7iii to the FX3 (A7siii with pretty lights) and couldn't be happier.
The SIII's IMX510 sensor is actually a 48 megapixel design. On readout, it digitally combines 4 adjacent pixels into one (for a total of 12mp). It's almost identical to the A1's IMX610 sensor, which explains how the A1 is "magically" able to do everything the SIII can do and more, retaining all of the dynamic range and having even better noise performance, despite _seemingly_ having a much higher resolution sensor. This also means that the individual photosites on the A7IV are quite a bit _larger_ than the SIII's.
If you're OK with 12MP, and want a hybrid camera, nowadays the answer is the Nikon Z6III, which is 24MP, and blows the A7SIII away with video features. But for most hybrid shooters, 12MP would be laughable, and even 24 is on the cusp of being acceptable. That's why Sony made the A7IV.
So plan ahead & take a few steps back for 4K/60 & save $1k….. not bad
Aaaaand no 4k120 🤷🏻
@@PeterLindgren1 yes, that’s def where they drew the line.
I love your "Swenglish" Peter!! 🤣♥ Wow, based on this video, I would also opt for the A7siii. But what I really want is the FX3, which is only $400 more, right?
Great Tutorial Review Video Peter. It's A Hard Choice, Because I Do Both. Probably Would Choose The Sony A7SIII. Thank You For Your Honesty!
i was waitting the a7iv and i ll probably buy the R6 D: seems the most solid choice if you are new to the market.especially if you are video oriented, no crop(1,07 is no crop) good low light decent lens choices.
Definitely Sony has better lens selection than RF right now. A7iv does internal 10bit 422 video and has full size hdmi. I would say A7iv is still better than R6.
@@techy1433 well R6 has also 10 bit internal, the full size hdmi for me is no issue even though i would prefer a full size but i will not commit to a brand only for that .... that crop is big, i had the S5 and damn man so big
I think 10 bit in the R6 is only in Log
@@markeverett3917 yeah only in log, update i m back in S5 xD
Hey Peter, I'm curious your thoughts on how easy it would be to use the a7IV in a live multi-cam shoot with the a7sIII. For the opening comparison, they look very well matched. But what did you do/how much work did it take to match the two cameras? Curious what color profile(s) you shot in, what ISO setting for each camera, etc. and did matching the two require additional corrections in post production?
They work pretty much seamlessly together 😊
@@PeterLindgren1 Did you match them just using in camera settings or did you have to do extra corrections in post? If in camera, what settings did use?
Bro that first test shot has a huge difference in the dynamic range and color. The a7s3 shows much more vibrance, in color and light dynamics overall. The image pops because of this, and my eye instantly goes to s3. A 5% difference can make for 100% more force, if in the right hands.
I went with the A7 IV since wanted to do landscape photography, Astrophotography and I was fine with 4K 30 for video.
People are so funny ! 4K 60 FPS you don’t need unless you’re going to slow motion in 4K! Everybody keep talking about 4K 60 frames per second , which is pretty much overkill for most video artists! Especially if you’re doing Internet videos! Like youtube , Instagram, etc.. even an education video don’t need 4K 60 frames per second! In addition the latest video editing software AI is so great that you can slow down a 4K video at certain points! Nobody’s gonna do a one hour movie in slow motion! For most people 4K 30 frames per second is more than enough!