Why Is Life So Full of Suffering? - Bishop Barron’s Sunday Sermon
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2021
- Friends, the book of Job is one of the most profound and most challenging books in the entire Bible. In today’s reading, we see that God does not hand-wave away Job’s suffering. Rather, the Lord places profound hurt and heartache in an infinitely greater context-into his loving providence. We must not narrow our focus on our pain; we must rather open ourselves to ever greater trust.
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Thank you!!! I needed this morning, I’m 86 years old, in a assisted living facility . I question every day about my existence . I’m in great arthritic pain, wheelchair bound. I will try each moment of every day to trust my daily unfolding.
Bless you …
God bless you.
Mary Ann, my mother, at 91 found herself with a debilitating stroke and in the nursing home. For many days she wrestled with the point of it all. What was her purpose in this. She kept hearing, each night, a woman across the hall crying piteously. One morning she said she knew what she was to do. In her inability to do anything else she was said she was called to pray. To pray for that woman and all the others she was encountering. Each one of those who came into her room, helped her with her daily needs. All of them and then those who she did not see. Every day, faithfully until her passing. I hope I hope I have the wherewithal to be like that in my last season. May God richly bless you with his peace.
Wow, what a fighter you are! May God guide you each day. Know that you have a purpose and He always has a plan. I send you a big hug.
Mary Ann.....that sounds so hard. I have chronic pain too, but you making your effort to surrender to what is, helps me to get out of my own worries. You have reminded me that we are all struggling and suffering in the daily details of life. Oh how we need God’s love and companionship, as it can feel lonely. I am with you in spirit! God Bless. Xxx
Jesus always gives me good things even out of bad things. In 2004 April, I out of misery from suffering the symptoms of flu, I gave up all 3 flu medicines. I told Jesus that I knew HE granted the suffering to give me something good. I trashed flu medicines. Within 3 hrs, taste bud come to normal, able to smell again...I slept that night like a baby. Next morning i had full of energy and 100% cured. In addition, Jesus removed my annual allergy symptoms, too. I can't forget this. Whatever the flu was it was so bad. Suffered for 12-13 days before the miracle cure. Jesus is my doctor.🙏😄
Perfectly describes the death of my horse at a very young age, after years of battling colic. I swore never to have another horse, losing Sizzle was so painful. Two weeks later God led me to a horse who needed rescuing. I fought, but God won. Yankee went from being a lonely, barely trained rescue to a terrific therapy horse. He made a difference in literally thousands of lives, visiting nursing homes, senior centers, and giving riding opportunities to the handicapped. God in His infinite wisdom knew Sizzle had suffered enough. He also knew Yankee needed a new owner, and I needed a new horse after losing Sizzle. Yankee died last October at almost 29 years old, having been with me for 25 wonderful years. Suffering turned into a great gift and blessing from God.
"But because I didn't get that job, I got another job." Bishop Barron takes the innocent listeners with him as he falls into the trap of "If this terrible thing has happened then there must be a visible, real, real-time, compensatory good and that too in this lifetime." One job in the place of another, one wife in the place of another sounds nice. The stories in real life need not end in this fairy tale fashion. "I didn't get that job, I became homeless, I was near starvation and death and because of this I was able to encounter God and that's what matters" could be one possible progression of the story. "She broke off the engagement. I never got married. I suffered loneliness all my life. But then in that loneliness I discovered God and that's what matters" could be a possible progression of the other story. I doubt if believing or encouraging the belief that the ending, meaning and relief of suffering always lies visibly, equally, really and in real time in this lifetime is the right thing to do.
May God bless Bishop Baron and the entire word on fire team
Living Doctor of the Church, Lion of Faith, Mountain of Biblical Diamonds, Bottomless Ponds of Clear Water - Burn Holy Spirit in Bishop Barron! Hallelujah.
Pray that this pandemic of the coronavirus will pass soon. Pray for all those who are suffering from it or has died from it. Pray to the Great Physician that He will heal us for only HE can.
I’m non denominational but I love hearing a homily.
In the 50's and 60's I was taught about offering my sufferings , large and small, up to Jesus. I still do use this as one of my ways to pray to One I love so much. I've found though out my life that I have been pruned by suffering. Pruned into a more healthy tree. I do enjoy my blessings and am grateful, when I remember to count them. I don't like suffering at all. But for me, it seems to have a purpose. Yes...He sees from a view far far beyond! Time doesn't impair His sight.
Thank you so much Bishop, once again,
Thank you for explaining the Scriptures!!!!
Not all carried their own cross and follow Jesus Christ, that's why there are sufferings. Endurance of faith in Jesus Christ is necessary to go on living.
I had a situation where I lived with roommates while I went to a Christian collage and all of a sudden, two years in my roommates wanted to drop out of school and bail out of the rent. I couldn't afford to keep living where I was and I couldn't afford to live on campus so I had to move back home, and ended up moving in with my grandparents with my fiancé. It was embarrassing and I felt like such a failure. A few months into our living with them, in the middle of the night my grandpa had a heart attack, and I heard him yelling for help. So I ran down and called the ambulance, but my grandmother had no idea what was happening until I woke her up after they took him to the hospital. If my fiancé and I hadn't been there he wouldn't have lived another couple of years and my mom never would have gotten the chance to form a relationship with him for the first time in her life (he was her father in law). Looking back now, I see that pieces were being placed that I never could have imagined, but at the time I couldn't for the life of me figure out what I had done so wrong to deserve what was happening. I've learned now that when things seem to be going wrong, or not according to my plan, it means God is setting pieces up so I should keep my heart open for His plan. Great sermon! God bless.
This was very encouraging and uplifting. Thank you for sharing your story.
Once again thank you Bishop Barron. I have read the book of Job, and always find it challenging. Suffering is difficult, but your teaching helps me too see God’s will. Maybe we do not get the answer right away, maybe not the way we want. Always what’s best for me. Trust the God , He always knows what’s right. ☦️🙏
Moving in with your fiancé? What's fiancé in American society is it a husband? No? So its adultery .a mortal sin. Isn t it?
@@egg.815 the point of that story went right over your head huh? Sure tell me about the splinter in my eye without checking the stake in yours, my sins are between me and God, not some rando on the internet. Have a wonderful life.
@@sabrinab2631 the bible is clear DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY sabrina.
Bishop Barron your homily truly Clarifies how God allows in time and above all trust in Him …watching from England U.K. 🇬🇧
Excellent summary of Job. Thank you Bishop Barron, your sermons and Daily mass of the Word on Fire during the early stage of the pandemic brought me home to the Catholic Church last Easter. I was a Charismatic Protestant for 30 years and woefully ignorant of Catholicism. All that I knew in the past about RC was fed by non Catholic sources.
In 1980 I was passed over for a promotion I thought I should have received. Angry. I tried for a solid year to get the training manager job I wanted. I went on an average of two interviews a month. What did I find for my efforts? Nothing, except rejection. Rejection after rejection after rejection. I didn't understand it at the time. And then in 1982 I founded New Horizons Computer Learning Centers. Had I gotten one of those training manager jobs I was interviewing for . . . I never would have founded New Horizons.
Let us pray for the four people that gave truth a thumbs down.
I’m going through a lot right now, but I actually find comfort in the mightiness of God. Some might see this passage as upsetting. How could God test Job like that and then rebuke him so! I think it’s actually comforting to hear the sheer greatness of God and know that at the same time we are loved immensely by him and cared for.
Thank you, Mr. Barron. I believe that the real answer is that 'nobody knows' why people suffer. Job had his reward after his suffering, but many people will die in complete poverty and misery. Bart Ehrman argues that 'how can a God allows people to be killed in holocaust, be maimed, violated, etc.?' If you argue that God allows people to do whatever they want, then why would you need to pray? On the other hand, if there is no God, life is extremely unfair: most people will die in poverty while a few selected will enjoy a life of riches.
God never causes the trials we face or the suffering that follows. To do so would be wicked, but the scriptures say, “God does not act wickedly.”Job 34:12.
Bishop Barron is such an intellectual thinker, and although some of the stuff he expounds on goes way beyond my simple level of comprehension, he always finds a way to bring it back to an understandable conclusion. He is always my go to guy when it comes to those things concerning Catholic teachings and faith. I seriously don’t know where I would be without him. I pray for him every day and include him in my rosary intentions. Thank you Bishop Barron for following God’s calling and for all you and the staff of Word on Fire do to keep me focused on God.
Dan I do too--he has designated prayer time from me!
Feel the same. Our generation’s Chrysostom!
BISHOP BARRON IS JUST PLAIN WRONG ABOUT SOME THINGS.
Those examples of suffering are easy to understand and accept. What about the suffering of a 5 or 7 year old son or daughter who is plagued with a debilitating, long suffering and painful illness?
@@shirleysteele8295 Shirley I know that these are very difficult to understand. As a nurse I have seen so much suffering that was devastating to watch. I don't think there are answers, that would make sense to any of us. But I do know that what I saw changed me and everyone around me. I know I will never be the same, and it made me better able to care for others with deeper compassion.
Bishop Barron, you have no idea how your sermon today effected me. I am presently in a situation because of the actions of another and it has turned my life at 70 years old upside down. I am now caring for my 8 yr old granddaughter. Obviously not what I had in mind for my life. However, I will , as a result of listening to you today, try to see that in the Gods grand scheme of things that I can be a positive influence in her life.
It sounds like you are acting heroically in taking on the care of a child. God implants a heroic nature in all of us and sometimes challenges and suffering allow us to reveal the hero within. God bless you in your journey.
At times I sure don’t feel like a hero. This child has been through so much in her short life. She and 3 other siblings were taken from their parents because of their parents drug addictions. God only knows what they have seen in their lives. This child is very angry and often times blames me , she is very disrespectful. But then she will be very sweet. I have her in counseling and I too am going to a counselor. I pray constantly that I am doing the right thing for her. However I have to admit I too am angry
@@Sue1 You have every right to be angry. Even Jesus showed anger when he overturned the tables of the merchants in the temple. Sometimes life is simply not fair. But through your actions you are showing her that she is cared for, and that can make all the difference. I imagine her disrespect is displaced and she really resents the pain that has invaded her young life. Years from now she will come to appreciate what you have sacrificed for her. To me you are heroic and I will be praying for you.
It's an pportunity for you to leave your mark on her life. Maybe introduce her to the faith by teaching her basic prayers, talking about Mary and the saints, you could even buy some beads and crucifixes and make your own custom rosaries together. Try and create memories that she will carry with her for the rest of her days long after you are gone.
The USCCB and the pope Bergoglio ilk, constantly defy GOD, without any sign to Repent. How can that be?
Another brilliant Masterpeice. Well done Bishop Barron. This book of Job can be extrapolated to all of us in this world, in our day and age, in our lives.
Once upon a time I was a Baptist who got cheated on by my boyfriend (because of my boundaries, I assume). I was devastated. I didn’t want to break up, but of course that was the best thing. I said, “Lord I need to hear from you. For comfort. For answers.” And I opened up my Bible... to this exact spot. I felt both chastised for questioning, and comforted by the clear message: “I have a plan that will be so worth it.”
Next few months, I met my husband who is the perfect one for me. I also came to look into the Catholic Church (for the first time) since he was Catholic. I was blown away, and I was HOME. Thank God. Yep, he had a plan indeed.
Melissa,
Celebrate each day☆
Prayers for your Sacramental Marriage and welcome home!! Yes, He does have a plan.
I’m a former Baptist convert as well. Love my upbringing, I needed the rest of the story.
I am happy to hear your story and of others who have shared them here. But the thing for me is, that, everyone's good things come soon. But my good things are not coming for years. This is the thing that shakes my faith and I begin questioning everything. I know the Lord has something for everyone. But this waiting period is taking away my hope.
I pray to God and hope that I am proved wrong soon about my impatience and I, too, get my answers.
God gives you what you need not what you want . ❤
Bishop Barron, thank you for your sharing you insight into Job's sufferings and God's place in life. It was a blessing to me... I am a retired Reformed Church Minister of Word and Sacrament. This sermon reminds me that our traditions approach God differently yet, we believe in the love of God in Christ and Christ's saving grace.
God bless you, John.
The Book of Job has seen me through many hardships. I don't thank God for my suffering, but I do thank Him for the lessons it delivers and the special wisdom that it seems can only come through bitter tears, provided we are open to the message.
Thank you so very much Bishop Barron. As always, working to help us understand and tackling the hard topics--and also deepening our faith. I am a nurse, so have witnessed horrible suffering. I don't have the answers, but I know that suffering has made me a better person by softening my heart, and increasing my ability to care.
Thank you Judy. Although I can not compare my personal experience with yours as a nurse, I agree that suffering can be a chance to change for the better.
I have been in a job for 6 months and since the beginning the women that I end up working with and is my lead …she is very direct and always over my shoulders…I asked God why?why? Me ? All the time …other crew was hired with me but when to different departments with a lead that always cheerful and gives 10 additional minutes for break…were I have 15 min and always making sure she doesn’t get mad.. we went already with three confrontations that lead to a second manager…I need a job but I can’t work with this women…I asked God why me …and not the others but Bishop Barrón just answered my question….a find a new job …thank yo so much and I love you ! I always watch you ! And the Mighty God Blessed you forever….Amén
My life has been full of all kinds of suffering. The only thing that seems to help is that I imagine my suffering, offered up, will help my children come back to the faith. Only then am I able to relate to God in His love for His lost children. Then, in my love for God, I am able to offer my suffering for all of His children, as well, and even ask for more suffering, as much as He needs. It comforts me to be in this place with Him.
ABBA Father , may Your Will be done and I continue to be peaceful in accepting Your Will
Book of Job is man made, and so is God. Trust doesn't come easily. If a personal God exists he definitely knows our conditions and he would have wiped out all tears. Even Jesus didn't do it. He too asks us to take up our cross, follow him and die.
If your goal is to make suffering stop, you’re doomed to failure.
Because I accept the premise of an all-powerful, all-knowing God, I’m able to accept the premise that this God knows more than me.
I still cry, but it gives me clarity.
Also, God became man and suffered alongside with us. So I can draw the conclusion that suffering has *a* use, even if I don’t know what that use is.
Great Comment☆
"If your goal is to make suffering stop"...while on this earth, strive, with all your heart, to go to heaven.
@@stingingnettle9726 like I said, that piece of the puzzle is beyond my knowledge. I’m just saying that if God is willing to suffer, then there must be *a* meaning .
That being said, if I were with a person in active, acute, suffering, I wouldn’t be sitting down and talking philosophy with them. I’d be trying to simply be them, keep them company, bring food, be a shoulder to cry on. 🙂
@@stingingnettle9726 It has helped me learn that I'm not in control....God is. I was diagnosed with leukemia twice. I learned to let people help me. I live alone and am very used to doing things by myself. I tried cooking on my own and at times, I was very mad at myself because I was tired of the same "blah" meals that I cooked. Deep down, I was mad that no one was "reading my mind" and offering me help. I didn't want to ask because I didn't want to be a burden. It wasn't easy but eventually, I allowed my siblings and my church parishoners to help provide meals.
Also, I felt vulnerable being back in an ambulance, being shuttled from one hospital to the next. I was alone in the back of the ambulance and couldn't help but think of people who were in an ambulance for much more serious injuries than me. I realized some people have it worse than me, even when I was suffering from cancer.
So, suffering helped me realize that I'm not in control and that I'm not alone.
The truth is God has nothing to do with our suffering...... nothing at all !!! Suffering is caused by SIN!! SIN is why we suffer. We abused our free will and SIN against God, and the wages of SIN is DEATH!!! the result of SIN is age, sickness, disease, violence, accidents, injury, starvation, limits to resources....on and on......and on. WE ARE TO BLAME!!! OUR LOVE of SIN is to blame!! NOT GOD!!.
Nearly twelve years ago we went through some of the toughest trials in our lives. Three of the four of my children were struck with serious illness as was I. During that year of terror, God led me to read the book of Job multiple times. At times I find myself still questioning why, however, on this end of things I now see the renewal and new life he brought about in my entire family. All of us, including my mother, have come into the Catholic church---the first in our family lineage which is paved with Pentecostals (my side) and Disciples of Christ (his side). We moved to a new state and my family was given enormous opportunity for growth together and many other blessings we would not have had without those trials. As the dad in Mark 9 said, "I believe! Help my unbelief!"
November 7, 2023,
The world is raging with wars, earthquakes, ignorance, and hatred in thousands of hearts and minds.
Knowledge of how to skillfully diffuse, and calm physiologically dysregulated aggression, and create peaceful environments that nurture the transformation of ignorance to wholesome "truth" is so needed.
The contemporary words are "trauma informed care."
Obviously Job's friends weren't wise to this research.
Master Thich Nhat Hahn skillfully practiced peace during the American war in Viêtnam. He taught thousands of people around the globe to walk in peace. "Peace is every step." "There is no way to peace, peace is the way." "Being peace."
We have to learn to nurture the wholesome seeds of goodness in one another, our communities, nations, etc., so that we become peace, and elect skillfull leaders.
It is comforting to hear good sermons. Yet it's also imperative that individuals, communities, nations, wake up and develop real skills in managing their internal thoughts & emotions, and external behaviors.
I'm grateful for Bishop Barron's passionate scholastic approach, he inspires my often weary heart~mind. 🙏🏽💓
God Bless You Bishop Barron, today and always. Amén 🙏 Amén 🙏 Amén 🙏
God help me, Bishop Barron, I just listened to your sermon a year after you gave it. You are giving examples of great suffering when you didn't get a job you thought you were perfect for and God gave you another one that was so much better, or a person whose fiance broke the engagement and he found a woman who was so much better suited to him. I have to tell you, watching the people of Ukraine suffer in this unjust war, as are and were people who suffered in wars throughout human history, or watching friends suffering through cancer or loss if their spouses, my innocent 49 year old nephew with cerebral palsy or my little great grand daughter with a birth defect that could have been much, much worse, and I am grateful it isn't, your examples of suffering are just not hitting the mark. I am trying, Lord knows I am trying to reconcile the suffering.
Thank you Bishop Barren, this sermon really hit home. I had 4 family members in 6 years that had cancer, a suicidal son all moved in with me, 3 of them died, my father, my uncle and my younger sister. I wondered why God was letting this happen "to me" so this sermon was very enlightening 🙏❤️
Oh, I'm really sorry to hear that. May God guide you and use your pain to make you stronger and bring you closer to Him. Sending you a big hug.
God never answers the question, and quite rightly says, don't you dare
Question ME. And Job says sorry and quite rightly, probably written around the greatest poem ever written.
Bishop Barron - the answer to why God allows suffering should be kept simple I feel, because he does. We can always ask God about our own sufferings, but do we ever consider if God himself has suffered? We should remember that a third of his created angels have abandoned or outright rejected him. This after knowing his love and goodness. Should we just assume that this has not caused God suffering? What about the nature and actions of mankind throughout all of its history? Has this not grieved God? We would do well to see that Christ himself on the cross is pure evidence in and of itself that God suffers too. The saddest moment in the Bible is when Christ asks with his last words on the cross “father father why have you abandoned me!?”. A child asking his father this, a father who loves him more than anything and everything. I can feel Gods heart breaking when Christ speaks these last words! I burst into tears just thinking of it. Imagine it a father allowing his pure and only begotten son to suffer so, with reasons and purposes that are infinite in number, meaning and truth. Our God, THE God and his son are so glorious and so triumphant. Not only that but Christ invites us to share our sufferings with him! To merge them with his own sufferings on the cross! One who is wise will absolutely take this most generous of offerings and I can promise you it will give you greater peace and perhaps some understanding of your own suffering! - All should be reminded - God himself has put his own son Jesus Christ to the test! The test of this life and all of its sufferings, the test of faithfulness to the point of a terrible death and then death itself with the raw fear of that death at its highest pitch. Christ has won the victory! He has triumphed so gloriously! He did so not for himself but for US! For us to share in his victory! For us to shelter in the shade of his cross from our sufferings! Take it my friend, accept his offer as it is indeed for you! This is THE Passion, this is HIS Passion and this is HIS PASSION FOR YOU! May God Bless you and may he leave you with no choice but to trust him fully.
This passage from Job is one of the only I recall where God tells us of his might and greatness and our humble place in His universe.
Wonderful explanation. Most young Catholics ask this question. Thank you so much, you’re an inspiration to us on how to evangelize those who are lost and fall away from Catholic faith. God bless you always.
I have not handled suffering wellbut then I found the Catholic Church. The lord has drawn me to their theology of suffering. Ihave been greatly helped by the Church. I personally did not find this anywhere else.
Happy Fathers Day, Bishop Barron! Thank you for being a spiritual father to so many of us. We always appreciate you sharing your wisdom.
The book is stunning , it's mythic, immense, an experiential truth, revelation for Job, and us, God's cosmos, not behind, but projected onto, the curtain! Awesome, terrifying! Except the problem of suffering isn't addressed. Are Job's murdered children, his servants (other than the one who escaped to tell him), every tribe obliterated by Jehova's favor- down to the animals, the dwellings, cleansed for the chosen. The fall of sparrows. My brother, a wanderer, finds nature unspeakably sad. All wild animals die wretchedly. Yet. Job knows that his redeemer liveth! God reseats the heart in eternity, in love, from the creation in all its futility.
"I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end he will stand on the earth."
Job 19 : 25.
You are interupring the master.
"Thanks for watching." Well, thank you for a beautiful sermon Bishop.
Bishop Barron’s homily is comforting and challenging. I shared it.
Thank you Bishop Barron. This week’s Sunday Sermon hit close to home. A year ago I was laid off after devoting 26 years to my employer. I spent two months searching for work, receiving rejection after rejection, on,y to land the job God truly intended for me. He revealed His plan for me in His own time. I’ve learned to trust more in God and patiently await His next step for me as He manages all those stacked chessboards representing the lives of His followers. God is good all the time.
An outstanding sermon. It is something we as humans especially Americans struggle with. We believe we are the center of the universe but we are but one small pawn in an enormous chess game going on.
“Trust in the Lord with all your heart and mind and He shall set your path on righteousness”
Beautiful Comment☆
Why especially Americans, we all do
I appreciate the analogy of the stacked chessboards to explain God’s Providence. God has the long view and we need to trust his vision over our limited human vision. Thank you Bishop Baron. I appreciate your scholarship but folksy style to explain Holy Scripture. God bless you in your ministry to evangelize.
Awesome Comment☆
Im tired gud nyt ,pray for me & God bless...
Supports Chaos Theory. Amazing!
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Praying for you Lourdes. May you be refreshed by the kindness of God☆
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"Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." - HENRY MILLER
I loved the example of getting the job God has in mind, not the job I wanted. I have heard it said that God answers prayers in one of 3 ways: 1) Yes. 2) Not yet. 3) I have something better in mind.
I was thinking of the little children in the Worsaw get to of WW11. Starving on the street. Guess the answer is God has something else in mind.
Jesus
Oh your talk was excellent Bishop Barron! My understanding of suffering is certainly clearer, especially when trying to help others going through difficult times. My thanks.
You have moved me many many times Bishop Barron but this may be the sermon that moved me most. You present such a clear understanding of what most of us consider unfathomable. I accept you answer to why, and it answers many of my why's. Thank you. Happy Father's Day. Blessings~
I am 89 years old caring for my Atheist 80 year old husband trying to live independently- no children or relatives but know that God has a plan beyond my comprehension . I just need to live one day at a time and know that this situation is interconnected in som interconnected
@@irenelenz981 You will both be in my prayers today Irene, and may the Lord richly bless you and keep you safe. Blessings from Kansas~
God Bless You Bishop Barron. You are a blessing.
😍 BEATITUDE 😍 is one of the primary reasons I became Catholic in 1986. Such talk is too deep for all the frustratingly shallow Protestants I had to contend with from 1968 to 1984. Beatitude fully and graciously explains the 'bad stuff' that happens to good people. Temporary suffering should be welcome if it saves us from permanent suffering in hell.
We must also never forget that the greatest of all evils is our own sin. Without any justification whatsoever, it offends a wonderful God in Heaven. St. Paul tells us that if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged of the Lord (I Corinthians 11: 31, 32).
As for the not-so-innocent, many deceived Americans bring it on themselves: "Those people who want to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and into many foolish and dangerous lusts. For the love of money is the root of all evil. Many going this direction have erred from the faith and pierced themselves through with countless sorrows!" - I Timothy 6:9-11.
PRAYER: "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, help us all to fully embrace beatitude so that we may know the abundant life Christ died to give us!"
Consider that we are in the little season of evil. ( Rev 20:3 ) I once compared Job with JB by Archibald MacLeish. Now it makes sense if Jesus already reigned 1000 years. We have Jesus to get us through this season of evil. Praise the word which is sufficient. God bless you!
Thank you for sharing Bishop Barron! Because I have failed my children through raising them in the church; They have fallen to the ways of the world. This brings me much pain and when I reach out to them with The Truth and The Way; I get this enormous push back. So strongly that they rarely communicate with me. I do not tell you this express a feeling of oh woe is me but, rather, to express my gratitude to God through you for sharing hope! Praise God and please continue to pray for me and my children.
Awesome sermon. Trust in the lord before any man
Reference my earlier post this morning:
MY ANSWER ON SUFFERING AFTER HEARING THIS SETMON A WHILE BACK:
A STRANGE COINCIDENCE
It’s no secret Ann and I do not agree on the BIG QUESTION (does God exist?). This morning this question came up along with the problem of evil and suffering. The story of Job, as most everyone knows, is a myth from the Hebrew Bible that seeks to understand the problem of evil and suffering.
I had to run to the store and played a Bishop Barron podcast on the problem of evil and suffering and Job. It was interesting intellectually, but it was short on really tough examples like the death of a child. It was not entirely satisfying and that’s rare when I listen to Bishop Barron.
On the way home I could see two birds in the road. As I approached one flew away but the other just sat there looking dazed. I drove over the poor guy between my wheels so as not to hurt it.
As I drove on I felt an overwhelming need to go back so about a quarter mile on I turned and went back. I pulled over and got out. Three cars went by, but did not injure the bird. A very lucky bird!
I walked over and gently picked the bird up. I walked back to the side of the road to find a safe and shady spot to place it. I assumed it was injured. Suddenly it leaped from my hands and flew to some pines maybe 20 yards away. THAT was a deeply satisfying and meaningful moment (for both bird and myself).
I don’t have an answer regarding why God (assuming God exists) lets the world and its inhabitants suffer. I think it is something similar to that bird struggling on the hot pavement and the hands that picked it up to save it.
3rd time listening to this, and as a result I’ve been able to understand my own question as well as point another to Job when they were suffering! God bless WOF and Bishop Barron’s ministry.
I love you Bishop Barron (been following you since you were Father Barron; heres praying for Cardinal). This is exactly what I needed to hear right now. The job example was my life this weekend. It gives me hope for the future and what this suffering could be in service of. Thank you for hearing God's call and dedicating your life to doing his work. Humanity would be infinitesimally poorer without you. God Bless!
I’m praying for Pope ;)
Through the fire through the flood..He is always there.sometimes the devil tries to use your dream against you.
Focus on God there is apurpose..hold on.never giveup
Fight the good fight of faith
I have always held knowledge in three dimensions: one where I don’t know what I don’t know, another where I know what I don’t know and lastly, one where I know what I know. When it comes to suffering, my own and that of those I love the most, I feel yanked and held into the space of I don’t know what I don’t know. It is there, in that very space, where trust in my Father is the most demanding, where His own Son said: « Not as I want, but as you want. » My faith, at 76 and after much suffering, lives in and from Jesus’ radical trust in His Father and mine, while not knowing what I don’t know.
Levis Shalom
Those that blame God for suffering and death, aren't as critical as they are of FDR and Winston Churchill who sent the children of millions to battlefields to get wounded, maimed or killed. That generation today is called the greatest generation that ever lived, as history spelled out the greater good of the suffering endured by those who died and those who lived through it all.
Thanks BB for your holy insight. Beautiful
God blesse you and do not suffer because of others pain and sins
God Bless you Bishop Barron !
God bless you Bishop Barron.
Life IS suffering, and the goal is to be worthy of your suffering. - Viktor Frankle
Thank you, Bishop Barron ✝️🙏
Bishop Barron, this a marvelous and edifying teaching on the Sovereignty of God ! Thank you ,and may the Lord richly bless you.
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Gracias. Paz y bien. Le ayude santo Domingo de Guzmán. Me alegro por su trabajo de evangelizador y misionero. Espero que el próximo sermón trate sobre David, el elegido, rey, pecador, arrepentido, en la dinastía de Jesucristo.
Me encantan las historias de David.
Thank you Lord for these marvelous words transmited by Fr Barron and thanks also to you, Father
Bishop Barron thank you soo much. You offer a comforting balm in the midst of great suffering. It's really a mystery, but you have unearthed for us. God bless
Thank you very much Bishop Barron. God bless you.
The death of a child. That’s suffering. A tough one to reconcile for me anyway.
Sometimes I think suffering is necessary in order to prepare for future endeavors whether that be in the present life or a future life.
Thank you!
Job has given so many people hope through the ages.
His suffering shows that no matter what trust God.
As someone who was born sick it took many years for me to forgive God. I know that is backwards but it is true.
I see now that is was because I was suffering that I looked for God because if there was no God, life had no meaning and the suffering was for not.
Job also gave me hope because after he suffered and looked to God his life became better than before. It is an image of suffering on earth and riches in Heaven.
Thank you for making me ponder more about this, Father. It just occurred to me that the Book of Job is a Typeograph (if that is a word, if not I just made it up) of the Fall and Rise of Mankind. I always thought that suffering-and-death is the effect of original sin, because it caused us (like Job) to lose the "treasures" of Life in God, to be cast into the Kingdom of The World of sin and death, and a slave to the one who was cast out. BUT NOT TO WORRY BECAUSE GOD IN HIS OMNIPOTENCE, made everything, even Behemoth , even Satan! God is telling Job that He is not finished yet, and the show isn't over, because Job (like "mankind" who lost everything through Original sin) will be restored!. So, in His greatness and mercy He sent His Son, Jesus to save us from the Behemoth and from Satan, and from suffering and death, by freeing us from the chains that bind us to sin and suffering and death, and to those creatures visible and invisible , and in doing so we enter perfect Life in Him, we enter The Kingdom of LIFE. Jesus teaches us that the present suffering with all its snakes and roaches and Behemoths, we do have to endure now but, like Job, we get "New Life, with a "new family", The Church, and through and united with His suffering on The Cross, through. the sacraments, we receive HIS GRACE with our YES to be reborn to LIFE in HIM , so he uses the result of Original sin (death) to PERFECT LIFE. Be patient and be still and know that GOD is in control. You can do this with HIM!
Very good explanation and teaching Bishop Barron about God's Almighty Providence. Thank you very much .
Excellent again Bishop Barron, May I heed the words of Saint Paul “wake up oh sleeper” God bless you Bishop🙏☦️🛐
Every suffering is a path to heaven.
Bishop Barron led me to. Catholicism and RCIA. I Love his sermons and speaking engagements on UA-cam. This particular sermon was ok I guess, but prehaps his least satisfying (for me). This question of suffering comes up with friends amd my lapsed Catholic wife of 44 years.
I have experienced the disappointment of not getting a job and the pain of losing my first Love. But these two examples he gives us do not overwhelm one’s life. When friends bring this up they challenge me almost every time with childhood cancer, birth defects, collateral civilian death in wartime, and of course Auschwitz.
There is no real meat in the examples given. Sure they hurt, but the degree of pain is trivial compared to those that frequently arise in conversation with friends and family who are unaffiliated, agnostic, or atheist. I am going to follow this post with the text of a posting I made on Facebook a couple of months back after first hearing this unsatisfactory homily. With all due respect to Bishop Barron, who I Love deeply for opening my eyes, I think my explanation is more satisfying.
Happy Father's Day, Bishop Barron! Excellent address to a most difficult question. Thank you so much for your virtual masses and inspiring homilies throughout the pandemic! They brought comfort and spiritual healing in a time of isolation and fear. God bless!🙏✝️
Anyone else realize that in ten years this will be in the commentary for Job from the WoF Bible Collection. Navarre going to finally get a challenge. It’s such a great time to be Catholic!
I watch & listen to those on the left and right within the Catholic Church. However I find Bishop Barron finds a middle way which I've come to appreciate very much.
Thank you Bishop - God bless you and your ministry
Amazing, thank you Bishop! God bless you!
I can't think of a more concise and profound summary of Job.
One problem I had in reading Job was looking at it as answering why "bad things happen to good people." It always confused me.
When I began reading it as answering the question, is God worth serving even in the absence of his most valued blessings, then Job opened up to me, for the answer in Job is a resounding "Yes!!!" Or, as John Newton expressed so well, "When we've been there ten thousand years, bright shining as the sun, we've no less days to sing God's praise than as we first begun."
Thank you so much Bishop Barron for this very thoughtful and eloquent sermon on why God allows suffering. It was especially moving and pertinent to me as just this very week I was denied an opportunity for a job I wanted very badly and I’ve been feeling very heartbroken and depressed over it. I had already been comforting myself with reminders to trust in God’s will and direction for my life and your sermon was excellent positive reinforcement of that. Thank you so much and may God bless you.
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“Check and mate!” Bishop sacrifices for the King in order to defeat the opposition. Thanks Bishop Barron!
God Bless You Bishop. Praise be Jesus for another great homily/sermon. Praise be everyone. Happy Father’s Day to all fathers out there. I extend this to all priests as well. ✝️❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
I have thanked you before on many of your videos but to this day I continue to be ever so grateful for having you put that fire of God’s word within us. You are indeed a blessing to so many . The Good, the Truth, and the Beauty are raised within my heart and soul when I hear you speak. God bless your ministry.
Bishop Barron does such a wonderful job relating to everyday, common experience. So thankful for these homilies every Sunday!
For me the answer is 'I don't know nor understand it at the moment of suffering.', but few days, months, years later, I, if I'm still around, might know why. If I'm not around, I might ask the Boss directly.
It's incredible to think just how much 'big data' was created by the thinking and observations of our great great ancestors to be able to reach that point of the Book of Job. Thank you for reminding me of how God is incontainable.
Well the message is:"Trust the Lord". As the apostles in the storm on the sea of Galilee learned, when you cannot do anything more, let go and trust. We humans find that hard-because we have become so powerful as the result of technology. But we must continue to have faith that God will do what is best.
Jesus, Mary and st. Joseph graciously grant us peace.
Ps 34:8, Mk 4:39
Holy Family of Nazareth, may families never again experience violence, rejection and division: may all who have been hurt or scandalized find ready comfort and healing. Amen
Happy Father’s Day and b😇
Blest be the name of the Lord.
The sermon has my heart in so many ways. If anyone reading this comment can recommend a good commentary on the Book of Job, please respond. I tried reading Job several weeks ago and just really struggled with it.
I wish bishop Barron would do video commentary of Rabbi Harold Kushners book When Bad Things Happen To Good People. Kushner believes God is not all powerful ! God hates suffering but according to Kushner God doesn't have the power to change or stop suffering !