RINGS OF POWER Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Review And Lord Of The Rings Easter Eggs
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- RINGS OF POWER Episode 8 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Review And Lord Of The Rings Easter Eggs. We review, recap and explain the new episodes of The Rings Of Power on Amazon Prime Video. This discusses Melkor / Morgoth, Adar, Sauron, The twists Gandalf, The Strangerl, Elrond, Elendil, Isildur, Numenor and our Season 2 Predictions.
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show I'm your host Paul and it's time to Balrog and roll as we are now at the finale for Rings Of Power Season 1.
The Lord Of The Rings show answers a lot of questions in it's last episode and throughout this video we're gonna be breaking down what happens, what it means for the future and also giving our review on the series as a whole.
Full spoilers from here on out so if you don't want anything ruined then I recommend that you head out now. Please hit the thumbs up button if you think the video is precious and make sure you subscribe for videos that you'll be galadriel you stuck around for.
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Now last week saw the aftermath of the birth of Mount Doom which completely ravaged the land. Normally I'd say One does not simply change the text of the southlands into Mordor but after Adar took over the realm it became his. Miriel decided to return to Numenor in order to gather more forces and both Galadriel and Halbrand travelled out together.
There was also Isildurs horse Beric which was let off the leash and similar to Arragorn in the two towers, this ends up tracking him down.
There was also the harfoots who set out looking for the stranger in order to warn him he was being tracked by Feminem and the guy who played stan in the music video.
Lastly was Durin who told Elrond and his son to Leave the digging and he accidentally awakened a balrog whilst refusing to help the elves.
That should be you fully caught up and this entry picks up with the stranger. We get a strong focus on his eye similar to how last week started with Galadrield, here he is in Elyn Galen or The Greenwood.
Once the shadow of Dol Guldur spread this became known as Mirkwood. He finds the apple that nori gave him last week but he drops this only for it to be picked up by what seems to be Nori. However,
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I got it right in the first few episodes :p it was fairly obvious
Am I the only person who still giggles every time I realize they give seven rings to the seven dwarves?
I loved it. Really good and the stranger is definitely gandalf. Idc if it changes gandalfs origins I'm gonna love it
I loved it, beautifully shot! The series I give 4/5 stars. -- slow in bits, acting not top tier, but stunning world-building and lore 😍
lol .. Disney was first wasn't it?! Or does it originate with the brothers Grimm or the like?!
The stranger used the same line that gandalf used in the fellowship of the ring extended edition. "Whenever you don´t know where to go, you can always follow your nose."
I think that's in the regular film, not just in the extended version
Gave me a smile
Its from the normal edition, i wish they didnt drop that line and kept it a mistery for the next season..oh well, i wish he was actually one of the Blue Wizards..but maybe we will meet the Blue Wizards, since they are going to Rhun, and the Blue Wizards were sent to the East originaly.
@@andresantos3487 That line made sense in the Mines of Moria... it doesn't make sense when he's sitting in a grove outside. I felt like using that line there was a cheap nod and the writers were trying to provide some fan service, but it just was out of place.
@@andresantos3487 Plus Gandalf said that he didn't go to the east. But then, who knew that Galadriel caused the creation of the rings? 😂
I like that Galadriel was like: "Okay, so I fucked up big time. I'll just deny everything and urge them to make 3 rings of power so I can keep one and crawl into hiding somewhere and sit it out until I get an invitation to go back to Valinor." Lol
Lmao wow XD i think she told them to continue making it because the rings are needed to save the elves but ya the fact she didnt admit what happened was a huge turned off
@@Gebsequanimity9300 I can understand that tho. Just as Sauron said earlier: Thanks for bringing me here, I'll never forget, and I'll make sure the others never forget as well. If she'd tell them right away, they most definitely would NOT forge those rings.
@@danielbrito3675 Wow that logic is like the creators of this series… Like go away because this is a disease apparently
I think you missed the point. The ring are a necessary evil. They made a pact with the devil so they can survive. Galadriel doesnt want them to know because otherwise shes screwed and it shows gil galad that he was right by saying shes just gonna bring evil back
@@mickMahaus32 In other words, ROP makes Galadriel out to be evil and selfish. ROP "Galadriel" has nothing to do with Tolkien's Galadriel.
When Galadriel confronted Halbrand’s royal lineage saying “That line was broken”, he could have answered her with “It’s been reforged!”
😁
Lmao 🤣
You’d be a terrible writer mate
@@manlikemo1659 Better dialogue than they have currently
@@manlikemo1659 true fans recognise the joke
Calm down tolkein😂
meteor man being Gandalf is a red herring imo; smart marketing to tease Gandalf
I hope they bring back the voice effects for sauron from the hobbit, the changing tones. it was insanely creepy/demonic/malevolent
Yeah, Benedict is a GOAT
You raise a lot of valid points about the plot and the pacing. I’ve been so engulfed in the lore, I didn’t think about newcomers to the story. Personally, I love this show and think they’ve done a fantastic job with the world building, but I can also see how it might not be for everyone.
It has honestly been god awful in my opinion. I also, watched it because of love Tolkien's world but, every twist was incredibly predictable (even for people that dont know the lore) and none of the characters gave me a reason to root for them. Arondir is like the only cool character who isn't incredibly boring
You're fucking crazy lol. the world building is lazy and insulting at best. the entire show is devoid of good writing, devoid of a soul or anything resembling original substance. they tried to rip off lord of the rings and absolutely failed at it. it's... so bad..
I saw it being halbrand from a mile away 😂😂😂😂 it was BEYONNNNDDDD OBVOIUS 😂 if they were tryna sway people welp it didn’t work lmao
same. As soon as he went ti numenor it was obvious cuz its written in the books
@@unexpectedlystrange TBF most of the people that saw it a mile away were book readers. I watch the show with mostly non-book readers and they were all surprised by the reveal.
I knew he was portrayed as Sauron from the Numenor episode but man, got some real goosebumbs when he revealed himself in finale, especially with „consider it a gift” line, or citing Adar
Not that this season is bad, but a little more action would have been really good.
Now that the Southlanders believe that Halbrand is their King,I wonder what path they would follow in the upcoming season
It was said that the place they are headed to in the last episode will eventually become Gondor. So I guess some like Theo will eventually choose to follow Halbrand while others like his mother might choose to remain on the side of the Numeroeans and the elves.
You mean the uruks? They're the only ones left in the Southlands/Mordor.
This show is absolutely my style. I see why you wouldn't like it, but this is definitely for me. I absolutely give this finale 10/10
I agree! 10/10
You are either a shill or a troll
Nothing says lord of the rings like over long hobbit goodbyes.
I think the major give away that the Stranger is Gandalf would be the way a moth appears on the face of Feminem.
He said "always follow your nose" so it's obvious
Do you think he'll be called Gandalf or Olorion?
But Gandalf came to middle earth in the third age.. not the second
@@Sassssky he went by many names so it’s possible he could go by a different name in the show but eventually they gotta call him by his iconic name, Gandalf.
@@Pookiebearhungry yeah but Amazon doesn't care about that
I’m surprised they didn’t reveal Halbrand was Sauron is the same way they revealed the Southlands become Mordor!
I would have laughed my ass off
I laughed my ass off with the southlands>Mordor transition
The corniest, most ham-fisted end to a show that takes itswlf seriously I've ever seen
That would be epic
@@EzekielDBarrett smh
@@EzekielDBarrett really? In my opinion the Southlands-Mordor transition was very dramatic.. Before that I thought Southlands will become Angmar and Halbrand will turn into the Witch-King and the revelation that it's actually Mordor was really shocking.
I think the problem why they cant show galadriels brothers death is because they dont have the rights for their story cause its in the silmarillion
I think you're right
Thanks Sherlock
Nope ! Not even since they made up that stuff.
Galadriel didnt have 1 but 3 brothers. And by the time of the last war with Morgoth they were all already dead ! One of them was killed by Sauron but it was long before the fall of Morgoth.
Who are we kidding? These guys have completely shit all over the lore and cannon since the start. No reason to logically work through something completely devoid of logic.
When has that bothered them? This series is best viewed as an independent fantasy, nothing to do with Tolkien
During the video I got an add from Shane Company to buy one of their “expertly crafted” rings. Nice try Sauron. I’m not falling for it.
Your overall thoughts on Season 1 are spot on. I enjoyed some moments but others just really dragged.
While I do like slow stories, I still think they have pacing issues, especially for a series that is released an episode a week. I recently watched/ listened to the earlier episodes in a row while knitting and they felt more coherent when binged, than when watched with weeks between story-portions. The season also feels unbalanced to me because while the start was slow (which I didn't mind especially in the plot with the dwarves and elves) the last episodes felt very rushed. In general I'd probably be happier if they'd had really committed to one or two storylines instead of mixing them all together. The whole mithril-line was interesting enough in itself.
As for Halbrand, I'd have liked him to be the witchking. Simply because a flawed character trying to be decent but ultimately failing and Galadriel suffering the loss of a real friend (instead of a fake one) would have been just way more tragic.
Super rough pacing.
Very little anticipation created.
I thought the same! The reveals are way too sudden and quick it loses its value/impact
@@waderedelinghuys6114 it gives it a feeling of checking boxes off a list
Way too slow in some places. For instance the Harfoot goodbye scene felt like it was 20 minutes long. Enough already, we get it!
NERD ALERT: Witch-king was formerly the King of Angmar in the north of Eriador - far from the Southlands/Mordor, so NOPE. However, I too was kind of annoyed by the reveal, as I expected Sauron to pose as an elf, conveying far more arcane techniques than just _maybe blend metals... explody! - perhaps instead of pressure let those metals just coexist without forcing it?!?_ so helpful
Also, unlike you I found the last episode WAY TOO DRAWN OUT... Nori leaving the nomads, OH MY GAWD just go; Galadriel confronting Sauron... a walk down memory lame???; making the rings SO SLOW......... also, no magical bits thrown at this budget? - no magic seen making some of the most powerful magical items?!?!?!
Elven magic... apparently reserved for making garbage cookies not rings, so sad I could cry :..(
Halbrand looked like a perfume advert in the end lol
Hahahaha
Lol with the winds of Mordor through his hair and everything 😂
True😆
Parfum De Mordor....by The House of Sauron
I'd like to know more about the backstory with morgoth and id like to understand more about how the power of the rings work
read the books then
@@elultimopujilense meh
Sadly they don't have the rights to the actual book so you won't be able to watch it in this series. But yeah if you really want to know I would recommend reading the books cause it's way more detailed or you can actually listen to it here in UA-cam.
@@craigfrancisjohnson that will be your best decision
I felt that except for Durin and Elrond, the heart was missing from the show that the films had. The whole story of Galadriel could have been so impactful but her relationship with her brother wasn't fleshed out enough to make me feel anything for her.
honestly i kinda felt that the lack of fleshing out the relationship was almost the point. we’re supposed to be the outsiders to her passion, kinda like everyone else is
I felt that this entire series sucked monkey pole beyond description....
I felt that way until the end of Ep 8 ... Idk but I felt her guilt, shame at being gaslit but the balance of Hal knowing she wants power was very nice and satisfying. Most of the season though she was quite abrasive. I feel a lot of heart in the show. But they do feel better in a 2nd or 3rd watching.
If you blink during the first episode prologue you wouldn’t have ever seen her brother. So the payoff just wasn’t there.
@@atroyz Idk, yes they didn't develop it much, but it was memorable and I felt moved by it. Overall I felt the payoff was very good in ep 8.
i find it kinda weird how fast giladril suspected halbrand for not who he is, even though she trusted him the whole show
It was Celebrimbor's "from the flesh" line. No one else knows those words except Adar and her, seemingly.
@@Dilmahkana do you mean that line wasn't suppose to be spoken by any elf or human or anyone except for the evil themself right? so this is the sign that Galadriel found out that something wrong with him (Halbrand)
Oh she actually has always had a power to see into the hearts and minds of others. Says so in the books and we see it in the movies.
That still doesn't explain why she didn't suspect him SOONER, like we all did when he was first introduced; none of us having such powers. XD
@@cofaloopolo2616 that Arda said it, therefore Sauron implied it/ said it. Which implied no one else heard it. Halbrand maybe said it to Celebrimbor. Who else could have
The audience knew he was Sauron since episode 4
I think it’s so interesting how manipulative Sauron is and how his words are poison and sorta persist, I guess is the word?? Like Adar used the same words Sauron told him which means Sauron maybe said the same phrase so many times it became branded in him. Similar to how Sauron tempted Galadriel with power but in Fellowship she would be tempted again by the “will of Sauron” in form of the ring and the same words were used to tempt her. Just like the ring tells all of its bearers how “precious” it is. It’s so interesting to see how Sauron’s personality eventually becomes part of the One Ring and how it has telepathic abilities just like Sauron did and how it uses the same words even thousands of years later.
Galadriel is responsible for Sauron to be back in ME. She brought him from numenor and encouraged him to be King of the Southlands. And she refused his love, HAHA. But incredible thing is how they are so alike. They have the same expressions on their faces and scream like psychos. Only Sauron could love this woman.
@@danielschoch4881 Why are you stupid white bois always salty?
This guy never read the books. Just like every other ROP fan...
I honestly did not appreciate the callbacks to lines from LOTR, it seemed too cheesy and unnatural in the dialogue
Yeah,. I'm just hoping I can get a frontal lobotomy and some electric shock therapy to erase and remove any parts of my brain that might still contain the memory of watching this show for ten minutes...Fingers crossed!
i hope Sauron will be one of the main Characters, Long have I waited to See the Dark Lord in Action!
I’m fucking ecstatic lad 👌🏼
He will be!
Its nori
dude literally didn’t they reveal who it was 😂it was that one dude halbrand 😂
who's Sauron?
Yeah definitely Gandalf, I think he will come across the Blue Wizards, who would have arrived before and help him remember. Then meet Saruman, see their rivalry as well as his forging friendships with Elrond and Galadriel.
I think Theo will work his way into being the Witch-king and Sauron's ally among the Southlands, helping him to kill Adar.
Seeing those relatinships unfold would be fantastic
@@nowwhytwo1636 yes but his last sentence was always trust your nose which is a gandalf line from fellowship so.. ya its gandalf
Theo isn't the witch king and I like the gandalf idea but doesn't gandalf come an age later in the 3rd age? They said the stranger is an istari which is one of the 5 wizards which he says he is. But the two blue wizards came in the second age so it may be them unless the show changes the lore of Tolkien
@@jakebeaver2139 There is no big REASON why Gandalf should come only in 3d age. Little to nothing is detailed about the 2nd age, and the source that says only 2 came in 2nd age is just a few lines. its not from any big story or anything. which is why we no nothing about the two blues. I dont think its either denied that Gandalf did NOT come in the 2nd age, but that he only made his role big and important into the 3d age. Like Saruman. So Gandalf could have come a lot earlier than we though and had a journy that is less knows. And even if its contrary to what Tolkien wrote, this is what he SHOULD have done and who knows, maybe he would have done this revision; that Gandalf came early and spent time as a journeyman, building relationsships and influenceing indirectly. Imagine the series looks at how he befriends Elrond, Galadriel and the others... and how he meets the other wizards and develop their relationships. It would be very interesting stories to develop and flesh out. And thats what this is about, flashing it out on the TV screen. Seems like lots of peeps on here does not understand that concept :P
I think he's Saruman. He specifically translated his name to 'wise' before wizard. In the coming seasons, I bet he becomes a white wizard, maybe we'll even see him tell a young Gandalf, "when in doubt, always follow your nose."
Looking forward to seeing season 2 in 6 years
You shouldn’t look forward to that
Just watch Hotd
@@yvick7770 He’s making fun out of the fact that this series will be forgotten lol
I’m sure we’ll all rewatch Season 1 at least 3 times to make sure we’re ready!
Really we have to wait that long??? 😮
@@kimberlyoliver200 Nah only two years
Your reviews are fairly balanced, even though I like the show more than you do (whereas I absolutely hated the long soppy Harfoots goodbye scene and had to skip some of it). The haters' reviews get more views (I haven't watched any of them, obviously), and wish I could have YT filter those suggestions out and never even see their pathetic thumbnails. HOTD is better, of course, but having the two shows at the same time is fine, I think. Like you, I guessed very early that Halbrand was Sauron and The Stranger was Gandalf, so their attempts at misdirection weren't effective, and perhaps storytelling is the weakest part of the series, whereas the visuals are superb.
Some of the hate reviews can be fun to watch.
The show is just below average with a dumb shitty protag. No hate involved, it's pure facts.
If you watch the series just to watch, it becomes much better. If you are watching it to compare to all the other LOTR content then yes they copped out. But a lot of people watching might not know who Gandalf or Sauron were or there origin stories. So for them the reveal was amazing. My wife who has never seen LOTR loved the last episode. She said "that chick must be pissed he cheated her like that" and she had no idea he would turn into a bad guy.
I feel if you watch the season in a vacuum you will enjoy it much more then trying to compare it to other LOTR content.
This doesn't sound like an endorsement to be perfectly honest 🤣🤣🤣
honestly I just felt like it was a nice watch. Watching it alongside HOTD definitely showed that it was a bit lacking, but I just thought it was a good thing to put on while I ate my dinner at the end of the day. Some super nice visuals, a nice little story and some lotr fantasy. It's not anything amazing, but overall I enjoyed watching it. Hopefully amazon picks up on some of the criticism and beefs it up a bit, but I'll be watching season 2 regardless.
I disagree. Disregarding movies, books, and lore, this show still looks incredibly bland. The acting is pretty uneven across the cast, the writing has all the subtlety and elegance of a strip mine, the worldbuilding looks like hastily thought-out generic fantasy, and the story was maybe two or three episodes' worth stretched across eight.
@@ironcladnomad5639 I rewatched the series and if you leave out the last half of episode 8 I think it was great. Sauron fooling the elf lady is amazing. The guy she was looking for was right under her nose and she never questioned it. So deep was her hate that she couldn't see what was right in front of her.
But I'll never win this argument. I liked the series. It was a nice base to the coming seasons. It wasn't an all time great like GOT season one or the expanse. But I think they took this season to lay the groundwork for future seasons. And that is why it suffered writing wise.
@@gg-bs1ey It is so hard to follow up what PJ did. They are also working with less of a guide. LOTR had the blueprint all they had to do was not stray to far. TRoP has less of a blueprint. But they also have to stay "within" a certain area. I hope the wizard isn't Gandalf. But I do like that Sauron tricked Galadriel. I feel it shows how cunning Sauron was. People watch LOTR and don't realize how truly powerful Sauron and Morgoth were. I mean we never even see Sauron fight. If this show can give viewers insight into how incredibly powerful Sauron truly was I think that alone will make it a success. I would also like to see them go more into the Music of the Ainur and the lore that comes with it. Hopefully they don't just copy paste LOTR with Gandalf and some hobbits going on a road trip.
Good to see him looking dark and kind of Sauronish by the end, setting forth for mount Doom.
But he still had that 'I'm good and I will heal this land" kind of look in him as well which adds more layers to his character. Love that.
Nori is saur, khal him slave like 3 white chikas
He has his evil robe
It's because he is a cutie
But he is giving off Liz Hurley of Bedazzled vibes......just need to get him into a red leather catsuit.....
The culture around nerd content like ROP or star wars or comic books fucking sucks. He says "you can see why it wouldn't work for everyone" and yes I do, but no one is forcing people who don't like it to watch. Like there is some compulsion that you must consume every new peice of content and all that does it lead to people who normally wouldn't like that kind of content slogging through it and complaining the whole time. I get that this channel is kind of obligated to watch them, but I'm talking about twitter crusaders or whatever. Like sit down for the first episode and if it doesn't jive, it doesn’t jive, you can move on to something else. The people who DO like it would love to engage with it on social media without "you know that it sucks, right?" following every post about it.
A lot of theory times turned out to be true? Bruh you said he was the Witch king until episode 5 😂😂😂
It wouldn't surprise me if they changed halbrand every season and we gotta guess who surion is
Sauron is going to be a trans next season
@@jademermaidmusic Shiiii
He was a shapeshifter
Next season theyre gonna do it like the mordor reveal with the title card
Just to be sure lmao
Not like there was any guessing required here - it was obvious since episode 3...
I hope his not gandalf always wanted to see the blue wizards but the "always follow your nose" line has not gave me much hope
their hinting at him being Gandalf is just as subtle as hinting at who Sauron is
Yep definitely Gandalf also, talking of adventures. And taking a harfoots / hobbit away. First time as a disturbing the peace
I was seriously hoping to see the blues especially knowing they came in the 2nd age but knowing how much they’re fucking up the timeline I’m sure it’s Gandalf.
It is Gandalf. I don't understand how people can be confused about it after the comment about following the nose.
gandalf said "more has come but to discover the rest I need to go to Rhun ". he is definitely going to meet the blue wizards in season 2 to learn about the rest of his memories
Not a lot of surprises in the reveals in this episode, but I think it was a pretty good finale. But I won't hold my breath until the release of next season, even though I'll probably watch it, lol.
Terrible series tbh. No more for me
@@fenris8477 each to their own. I'll give season 2 a chance, to see if it picks up the pace, and/or story lines gets better.
its horrible lmao
@Benjamin David Lurie “continuity” a thing already broken lol
Lmao, it was full of cringe scenes
I hope that the Stranger is one of the blue wizards but one that finds Gandalf when he arrives and catches Gandalf up on what's going on while departing his wisdom to Gandalf. That's why the lines are similar. I know it's unlikely, but that is my hope.
The Blue Wizards arrived on Earth together and eventually dwelled far away from Middle Earth (to the East I think although I'm not sure when). They also wore 'Blue'. Where as Gandalf stayed in Middle Earth, spent a lot of time with the Hobbits and wore 'Grey'. Although they threw in the Bait and Twist, there was no real way he was the bad guy or anything other than Gandalf the Grey.
Although I understand why people generally have their own theories and hopes, all of the clues started to add up really quickly as the season progressed.
Gandalf has the best brand recognition, they're not going to use a "blue wizard" nobody knows. Thats how these people think im afraid
I too hope it's not actually Gandalf. It's just too straightforward otherwise.
He is Gandalf. Quotes from him used, when he banished those witches, one turned into a moth (Gandalf used to call the big birds), calling himself "wise one" aka Gandalf the wise
@@recursivecoin359 why not Gandalf? He will be known as a blue wizard then Gandalf in the 3rd age. What’s wrong with that? It actually can be a story of how Gandalf became Gandalf
The writing on this production is B movie level at best. If you need it just write it in. i have a theory about our now confirmed wizard. He surely is in a role like Gandalf but that is just another example of how this series uses reflection of past creations at every opportunity. He is one of the Blue Wizards. They are on their way to Rhun where they will find his brother Wiz who will be a reflection of Rhadagast. The dynamic duo of Wizards will be reunited again for the very first time! Look for Poppy to follow along, popping up like a jack in the box, continuing her reflection of our old buddy Samwise. i am baffled why Galadriel did not reveal he was Sauron? Ego? So much for hoping she would learn a little humility as a character. Sure would be nice to sound a warning and maybe get word back to your friends down south!
Honestly, this reveal felt rushed, i'd rather have seen at least half of season 2 with Galadriel working closely with Halbrand and Celebrimbor, her suspicions rising slowly, the twist coming... mid season 2.
But they couldn't help themselves.
it's five seasons. they have to get on with the dwarves in season 2, the men in season 3, and the forming of the avengers in season 4. season 5 is infinity wars of course. ;)
The thing with the dwarf king is they have the foreknowledge of all previous dwarf kings. There's a brief moment he says that to Durin, and I think that's why he halted the digging because he knew something dangerous dwelled deep in that shaft. There was no other shaft that was being shut. There's also the possibility he knew the story of how mythril was formed. It was a fight between an elf and a balrog, but we were never told how that fight ended. To further point out you were saying how the rings for the dwarves had little effect on them besides making them greedy because they had a strong spirit. What if the rings negated that dwarven foresight/spirit and left behind only their greed similar to how the rings of the humans sapped them of their spirit and left behind hopelessness.
According to the show's timeline, that fight between the elf and the balrog would have taken place no more than a few hundred years ago. Within the lifespans of these characters, its not that long ago.
The 'foreknowledge' of all previous Dwarf kings is a tale tole by Durin's Folk. It's not real.
That's not how mithril formed. The show made it up, just like 99% of the stuff. Tolkien would never write such a simplistically dumb "legend". And it's mithril, not mythril.
I always knew the only people who can love this show are the ones who never actually read Tolkien.
Fake fans of the fake show.
Then why wouldn't he just tell his kid "hey, don't do that, scary monster down there"? The whole balrog reveal was pointless, as the video pointed out. The whole "mithril provides the elves with light and life sustenance" was really hard to believe. Idk. I appreciate the attempt to dig deeper into dwarven culture, but it felt like a side quest that'd I'd just ignore if I could
They have foreknowledge of all previous dwarf kings? You can have foreknowledge of the past? Oh i bet you mean they have past life memories of all dwarf kings.
I’m just happy the finale didn’t include reveals based on PowerPoint texts! That alone is a major success for this show!
I loved the PowerPoint text when the word “Gandalf” popped up. Amazing. Wow.
I like the show and I can't wait for season 2 BUT BUT BUT please avoid releasing it with Season 2 of HotD cause it's "No Match"
Not bad, not bad at all. i enjoyed the whole season, though at times it was a wee bit slow and repetitive. i could feel empathy with the harfoots which for me is a good sign. And hope that killing of Sir Len was nothing to do with the torrent of abuse that many seemed to feel justified having a non white halfling.
Roll on season 2
Like a lot of us were saying it was obvious that hallbrand was Sauron to the point it wasn’t even a twist, the same goes for ‘the stranger’ being Gandalf. I think it sums up this series in a nutshell, nothing quite hit the mark. Everything was long winded and the writing felt like they wanted to change parts of the lore but didn’t have enough good Ideas make it work as a complete, fulfilling story. It’s clear that the shows writers are no Tolkien. They should of made their own story completely or just stuck to Tolkiens ideas. Instead they did neither and for these reasons I sadly thought it was a bit of a let down.
hold your horses , its only season 1 , lol
It all felt undercooked really didn't it? The lack of the Annatar form is also a bit of a cop-out. A series that both dragged it's feet and then rushed its finale.
They dont have the rights to the annatar form
@@Barcaloni1889 Ah gotcha. Still felt a Southron king taking a ring to save his people and becoming a Nazgul might have had more punch later on.
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I tho hallbrand would be witch king so i was wrong
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So what we now is that Halbrand right now is Sauron?
I loved how the theme with Galadriel is about water and with Gandalf it's fire. With Galadriel, her dark mode looks like shes underwater drowning as in the beginning of the season. Galadriel gets Nenya the ring of water and Gandalf later gets Narya the ring of fire.
When did Gandalf get the ring I thought they were only for the elves.
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 may not be but every clue points to it. Gandalf gets it later in the timeline in the Third age. He has it in LOTR but it never mentioned in the movies.
lmao christ dude
@@raulortiz547 oh ok, an that line about following your nose is a line that Gandalf says in Lotr
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 In book cannon lore, Gandalf gets it from Cirdan when he arrives in the Grey Havens, off the boat from Valinor, in the Third Age. He arrived to contest the influence of Sauron with the three, or five, Ishtari. Cirdan was known for foresight and he saw Gandalf was going to need Narya more than him.
Overall I like the show. But I have to say that many of the characters are bland and uninteresting. The story so far is way too slow. I hope for more but they definitely need to do some retooling
What do you people want? They have taken creative liberties... this is fiction! If you don't like the show stop watching! I personally loved LOTR and The Hobbit but am taking this show for what it is and I like it
After every episode I look forward to hearing your reactions, never disappoints.. I really enjoyed the Season and as long as it gets better people will be more forgiving on the slow build up and miscues. Also don't let the negative comments get to you, your breakdowns are top tier entertainment.. Keep doing your thing 👍
Galadriel hate towards Sauron made her completely blind to see the real Sauron!
because the script required her to
@Bad Boys Boogie Not really. For example the death of the harfoot, Gandalf could have healed him but script told him not to… It’s just bad writing
@@jackjohn4156 gandalf is out of mana
And she helps him getting his kingdom and the trust of the Southlanders. She even brought him back to ME. Like the Germans voted Hitler, Galadriel and the Southlanders voted Sauron.
@Bad Boys Boogie So him knowing that he can heal a tree isn’t script written. I don’t know how you believe that but whatever you say…
2:49 seven, not six.
3 to the elves, 7 to the dwarves, 9 to the men, 1 for himself. Makes 20 rings
finally. why so low bro?
@@totemcleod3120 huh?
I 100% agree with your take
On the first season
Ultimately it could have been better but it wasn’t horrible. You make a great point about them glosser over the lore/larger characters and not expanding upon that to provide a larger emotional arch
The stranger is definitely Gandalf, this is the backstory to his love for the hobbits, who might be the most underrated and important race in middle earth. I like what they are doing with Gandalf in the show, who in the books did visit Middle earth before he was sent on his mission by Valor. Second season we might see the blue wizards appear.
Except Gandalf wasnt there til the 3rd age...sooooo NO, along with the other 4. Talk about even more shitting on any lore given.
No, its sauron
The stranger used the same line that gandalf used in the fellowship of the ring extended edition. "Whenever you don´t know where to go, you can always follow your nose."
@@dve34 no, its sauron
@@lightislight9 how is he Sauron?
i really enjoyed this last episode. maybe because i'm not as well informed on LOTR (tho i've seen the films, just not read the books) as i should be, i kind of liked the pacing of the whole show. yes there were parts where it could have been sped up, but overall i loved the mystery of halbrand and gandalf. charlie vickers was brilliant and loved ismael cruz cordova as arondir (i'm hoping he'll be back for s2!) i can't wait for the next series
the biggest problem with the pacing is they have to tell you things, they can't show you things, which is the reverse of what people expect for tv. when characters have their soliloquies they are explaining Silmarillion to fill in gaps between Tolkien and this series that kind of acts like a prequel. I think its ok done, in that they are doing the best they can, and if you want to blame anyone blame the Tolkien estate for only selling some appendixes for a quarter billion dollars.
@@notverynotoriousg5674 biggest problem are dumb dialogues and pointless scenes...
Did anyone else think sadoc’s death was weird? Like some of the interactions in this show feel like they were written by an ai. Just unnatural
Feminem! 🤣😂💀 Will the real Slim Ladies please stand up
I thought there was no way Halbrand was Sauron until I noticed how interested he was in the mithril and that he was talking with Celebrimbor.
When I see the option who will be Sauron, I voted for Helbrand but after seeing his interest in Mithril i became sure. ...
I suspected him once he asked adar if he remembered him. And adar explained that he killed sauron to galadriel that made me suspicious of him!
@@reese7704 Yeah. It all clicked when he had an interest in Celebrimbor. I was like "NOOO! THAT'S SAURON!"
@@theramilakarki4010 I had just thought Halbrand would be one of the nine possibly even the witchking.
@@pyrowolfcb4086 that's a good assumption as well but all in all I love the series the last episode especially!!! I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
Season 2 Theory (House of Dragon is way better than Rings of Power)
Mordor Arc
1. Sauron will confront Adar and tries to retake his control over the orcs.
2. Adar rebels so Sauron decides to retake Mordor by force and goes to summon the other orc legions.
3. War for Mordor: White Cloaked Orcs under Adar vs Dark Armored Orcs under Sauron
Eregion Arc
1. Sauron will return to Celebrimbor as Halbrand (Annatar) to convince him to make rings for the 7 Dwarf Lords and Nine Kings of Men.
2. Celebrimbor befriends the former Durin IV whose real name is Narvi.
3. Celebrimbor and Halbrand (Annatar) give the new Durin IV one of the seven dwarf rings.
4. Celebrimbor doesn't know Halbrand (Annatar) is Sauron.
Rhun Arc
1. The Istar and Nori will head to Rhun and learn Morgoth's influence on Rhun's inhabitants.
2. The Istar finds a Blue Wizard already operating in Rhun.
3. The Blue Wizards learn about Rhun and its loyalty to Morgoth.
4. Blue Wizards vs Rhun's Mystics.
5. Excited to see King Khamul of the Easterlings
Southlanders Arc
1. Isildur and the Southlanders will build the foundations of Gondor at Pelagir.
2. Numenor and the Elves prepare for war against Sauron.
War for Eregion
There is an event when the Elves of Lindon & Eregion as well as the Dwarves of Khazad-Dum work together to fight Sauron in Eregion. Sauron defeated the alliance and captured Celebrimbor who refused to tell Sauron about the whereabouts of the Three Elven Rings. Sauron later executed Celebrimbor and advanced his orc legions to Lindon. However, Sauron was later defeated and pushed back because of the arriving Numenoreans.
Inclusion of hotd as way better than rop is quite unnecessary and nonsensical
@@rjayamsedel3225 … It is though in every way only shills like this series honestly
@@rjayamsedel3225 it is as long as ANYONE says anything positive about this shit
I like the Haldbrand twist. At no point did I ever think 'The Stranger' with Nori and the Halfoots was the enemy though (as initially mentioned in an earlier video). I mean, he wore Grey the entire time for a start (***** the Grey) and used a lot of signature skills of a very specific Grey wizard.
Given that these are the same people that decided to spell out Mordor on screen, I'm not surprised everything else turned out to be so obvious. It was so obvious that people started dismiss as being too obvious most of the season.
Gandalf doesn't appear in Middle Earth until the third age
@@kalu9541 This is a fanfic, though an expesive one. Anyone who holds on to the lore is going to die crying in despair or screaming in agony. For your own sanity's sake, forget about the lore if you attempt to watch this series.
I like the idea of the halbrand twist as well, I just was really disappointed in how they handled it. Way too obvious, and way too rushed at the end in terms of "name the rings, discovered as sauron, tempt the main character, and now disappear" because... Yeah.
@Bzake i was thinking this, i mean why not him? he wasnt the villain back then. ppl are thinking gandalf bc thats what fans want i guess :D
As said before, you didn't think Halbrand was Sauron because you give the showrunners far too much credit. If it hasn't dawned on you by now, these people are WAAAY out of their depth.
I don't know how people didn't see this. It's been insanely obvious for ages that Halbrand was Saron.
Wasn't the best of series. But would watch the second season was not that bad 🤔
Season 1 was a 9.5/10
When hellbrand came to celebrimbor s workshop even before he said gift
I think we all knew
yep its confirmed he is sauron
I didn't think I would like the show after the first 2 episodes but as someone who has not read the books and knows "the lore" I did enjoy seeing pieces that would become part of the original movies. I mean not everything can match a book perfectly.
As for the rings, I would have been ok with the.not being crafted, just seemed clunky to me as it seemed from the movie they were all crafted at once.
Overall I found some episodes to be wonderful with pacing and others so slow and hard to follow. I look forward to see how season 2 builds upon this season and how they will improve in other areas
the rings were not crafted all at once, but the elves' were crafted after the others, when they realized Sauron made the others + the one ring.
why do you think this series is related to the original trilogy? Do you understand that these are different introductions?
The problem is, not a single moment past the prologue can be found in any of the books. Everything in the show is completely made up or changed.
I really enjoyed this season but I do understand why people don’t. Super excited to see what they’ll do for season 2
They butchered the ending by forcing the series to show "Suron". Suron shouldn't be a person. Suron is a mythical character; an essence or spirit.
@@nicomladic953 I mean Tolkien in his novels writes Sauron as a shapeshifter or trickster, so it’s not completely out of reach for how the show dealt with it. But I get what you’re saying
A consumer whit no sense of quality, just what they want 😄
@@larsroarh6285 dog just cos someone has a different opinion to you doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world. Sure, the show might be “objectively bad” but it doesn’t mean that consumers won’t enjoy it. Let people enjoy what they want 🤷♂️. The majority of response has been negative so hopefully it’ll lead to an improvement next season but I’ll still watch it either way
I'm all for slow story telling, but this finale was a completely different animal, with content that I felt should have lasted an entire season before the final reveal. They crammed way too much into this IMO.
You tellin me that was the last episode for the season ?
Hey Paul
Just wanted to say that i've enjoyed your reviews of the rings of pwoer and that I hope you come back for season 2. :)
I like the fact that you give a critical but fair review overall.
Not enough people do this. and as you say, your not going to please everyone either way.
But don't listen to those people and keep up the good work :)
Cheers mate, glad you liked them and I appreciate you watching the reviews without thinking I’m a shill or a hater
@@heavyspoilers No problem. at the end of the day your just giving a review. With what you liked and disliked.
That to me is what a review should be about. To many people get caught up in trying to be an influencer to get likes or clicks. or are just overly negative to get money etc.
At the end of the day, People like what they like and don't like stuff to. Its called choice for a reason.
I feel to many fans forget that these days. Plus, so many people are so worried about offending someone that they may not actually put an honest review.
Just my thoughts buddy :)
Anybody get any Stranger Things season 4 part 1 finale vibes with Halbrend looking at the scorching Mordor from afar like Vecna did when he first entered the Upside Down?
The Halbrand is Sauron became so obvious in this episode it was great the escalation. I love the beginning with the acolotyes and stranger misdirect drama haha. This was a good finale and I am excited for the series future! I’m fine with the stranger being The grey pilgrim.
2nd season predictions is hard to make. I bet we Sauron take over Mordor and dispatch Adar? I doubt Sauron will try to put on another disguise to return to Eregion but maybe they will adjust that story line as well. Bet mithril and the dwarves will play a huge role though.
A fair and balanced review Paul I can only agree on the pacing and the spectacle of the show. The script needs working on and I’ve had bigger twists on the dance floor. But overall I enjoyed it.
I agree. Paul said something to the effect of “we were ahead of the show wait for it to catch up” that pretty much sums it up. Trying to be too meta and the story suffers because of it. Seems like a rookie mistake on the most expensive show ever.
Yeah, I agree too! I really love Paul‘s reviews compared to other channels, he is fair and makes good points.
I really dislike the very hateful mob though, which just hates everything about the show. Like e.g. Nerdrotic and others, who literally seem to just live on rage😅
I think, that they really should try and improve the writing, but that it was an okay start! And i am glad, we get sth set in Middle Earth for TV again (even though it is not always close to the source material, but I can totally live with that). I will definitely be watching the 2nd season (and more reviews on this channel!) :D
If Galadriel tells them that was Sauron, she risks them deciding to not forge the rings. If the rings aren’t forged, then the elves would have to leave middle earth and Sauron wins. She knows they have to continue with the rings in order to continue the fight against him.
Overall, I enjoyed the series more than most apparently, for all of the positives that you listed, plus as you said, I am certainly someone that enjoyed the pacing overall (and I’ve also felt that House of the Dragon is not as good as it should be because it jumps forward in time just to hit a major plot point every episode).
It's a good show, revealed over time. Watching it from the beginning, each episode at a time was slow. Almost nothing happened the first 3 episodes. But looking back now that it's over, it was good world building. It's why we shouldn't judge things until they're finished.
I haven't seen House of dragon. I don't know why people are excited for a show that the same writers ruined the last one everyone was excited for.
@@yggybeats I agree, and people are so fixed to opinions these days that once they have “judged” something they will likely fight to see things that support their opinions as opposed to being open to change, even as they receive new information (or in this show’s case, new episodes).
As for House of the Dragon, I actually really enjoy the show (the acting has been great, for example), but I am just saying that I would be enjoying it more if we really got to know these characters/actors portraying them as opposed to changing out/adding new characters/actors each week. If they took their time, as Rings of Power does, it would be even better in my opinion.
Okay that makes sense I can calm down abit now but I was honestly Fukn Bamboozled as to why she didn't just tell them the DARK LORD just walked out the gate
I liked it too 😁
. The elves were facing extinction. Sauron arrives, shows them how to build rings (only the 3 he can't control), saving all the elven race. His greatest enemies. Sauron is the hero of the story.
Bro Sauron was just a sad boy that lost his big bro (Morgoht) and tried to live on his legacy before giving up and then found a rich strong lil girl and wanted her to be his baddie
She said « Ew no »
Him « aight bett watch me do my tang. I’m finna become the the biggest mf in the city and imma put some drip on all my opps and take all their shit»
Her « ok do yo tang imma do mine"
❗️BAM❗️
✨Lord of the Rings✨
Most anti-women show ever.
Durin's wife : reason for Durin's Bane
Miriel : Reason for Numenor's fall
Galadriel: Reason for rise of a new Dark Lord and all the evil that'll follow
Nouri: Reason for anything bad happened to Harfoots (at the end gets kindly exiled)
Terrible show from very dark souls.
The show had some really cool moments... it's a tough balancing act trying to keep the hardcore fans happy by sticking somewhat to the source material while simultaneously trying to keep those same fans guessing and not bored with what they know is coming inevitably. For those crying about Gandalf showing up because he wasn't around in the second age... - A Wizard arrives Precisely when he means to. 😅
"A Wizard arrives Precisely when he means to." Which was in the Third Age, over the sea, with Radagast and Saruman ,and he never went east. 😉
@@mikem9001 Thank you master of Lore, what would I ever do without you? ....I'm well aware of that, twas just a wee joke but if you feel the need to brag that you read tolkien then go off king...of the southlands.
@@bradvickers2379 Now, now, don't get shirty. I made a light hearted comment - no need to worry about it. 😂
I don't think they changed things so those who knew the lore could have surprises. They didn't need to anyway, we all would've loved just seeing it on screen. I think they did it for convenience of writing a through-line and 'updating' the story telling to modern styles, and the original plot would've taken longer since Sauron bided his time more regarding the Rings.
I think they did a good job of explaining why Durin doesn’t want to dig deeper. They talk about singing to the mountains and it sings back where to dig, where not to
I enjoyed that episode. For an instant, I thought The Stranger might be Radagast, because he wanted to go to Greenwood. Then I thought they might give him a new blue robe when he wanted to go to Rhun. But, the "follow your nose" line seals it as Gandalf. He may be a few thousand years early, but at least it was a good fight against the cult women. When Halbrand said "think of it as a gift" I hollered "Annatar!"
They cannot use Annatar as name or figure or the blue wizards, because that's from the Silmarillion, not the appendices of LotR. Bit unfortunate, I'd have preferred a blue wizard story over a out-of-period Gandalf prequel, since that's some of those huge blank spots Tolkien himself left in the Lore.
Yes! “Follow your nose” speech was from two towers when they were stuck Moria😄
@@rk9340 gandalf said "more has come but to discover the rest I need to go to Rhun ". he is definitely going to meet the blue wizards in season 2 to learn about the rest of his memories
@@mister_comeback I certainly hope so. The entire east and the story of the 2 blue wizards is so underdeveloped in the source material (and even contradictionary), I'd really like to see stories around them.
@@rk9340 TOTALLY agree with that !!
Most confusing series ever!
They only had enough Mithril to make 3 rings? So how were the rest made?
Where, when and how did Sauron make/ get a ring?
Sauron's motive to teach Elves about the rings is not explained clearly and then in the end he vanishes just like that supposedly with no ring with him?
So many hooks left open I'm certain they'll never be able to complete them.
Stunning visuals but stunted narrative and pathetic screenplay!
"I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor.
The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn.
Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."
Was reading a lot of bad rep/reviews BEFORE the show started, now that my expectations were lowered even before it started I enjoyed the show and eager for season 2. Don't let negativity ruin your experience I would say...BTW great channel, always come here after an episode!
Was the original plan that every elf would wear a mithril ring?
The fact that the writers gave Galadriel an opportunity to reject Sauron's offer to rule in Middle Earth shows how little they appreciate her true character arch of flipping the bird at Valinor and saying "I'll make a kingdom in Middle Earth and rule here." Her pride keeps her along this path until she finally is offered the power of the One Ring and rejects it, realizing her pride has kept her from grace and that her pursuit of power is corruption in a well intentioned form.
Galadriel's face in her little shouting match with Saurbrand looks like Captain Kirk... "Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnn!!!!!!!"
Thought it was bit slow. But not terribly, but close. It is fortunate that I know a decent amount of lord of the rings story. But I can see how it would be difficult to enjoy the show without that knowledge. In total I simply enjoyed the show. Didn’t enjoy didn’t hate. Just enjoyed.
On one hand, I did enjoy the show and don't understand the hate. On the other, as a writer myself, this show is the ultimate example that no matter how much money you throw at something, how great the visual effects, great writing is essential to great storytelling.
Fax.
If you don't understand the hate you are just a normie, if you were a fan you would understand, it's ok you enjoyed it nothing wrong with that.
I know right, there was this so called "writer" making a video on UA-cam about how he'd like to change the plots of this show,
Well the video popped up in my recommendations, and I commented that I liked the original version,
And somebody insulted me for liking the original version better than what a random youtuber created 😤😤😤
Surely those many people behind the scenes are waayyy more talented than this single person on UA-cam 😩😩
Wait a second. If you enjoyed the show, then the conclusion should be great writing is NOT essential to great storytelling. Did you go to the same School of Incoherency as the ROP writing staff?
This. This. The writing is horrible. The dual between halbrand and galadriel in this episode is abysmal. Like who wrote that man?
The elves have fallen into the trap of Sauron! Sauron was extremely clever by having the elves make the rings of power instead of giving the rings to them directly. This way, they couldn't resist them. This was very clever.
No, you dummy... See, both Sauron AND the elves were supposed to make all the rings that would later go to the men and dwarves (and keep in mind each ring took YEARS to make). Then Sauron went ahead and made the one in Mount Doom. In response, Celebrimbor forged the 3 elven rings in secret. See, I get that y'all want this series to look clever, but it really isn't. At all
@@joaopedromarquesini1792 Bro. I’ve read the books 4 times. If I want accuracy, I would read the books again. Book readers enjoy this show because of the twists and differences from the books.
He never gave the rings to them in any of the canon. They always make it themselves lol
@@hammertimee777 lmaoooo
Twists in this show? What twists 🤣
I like slow stories and don’t mind the pace at all.
… Hope you are joking because this isn’t slow. This is just bad
@@jackjohn4156 ffs, shut up already.
I was given permission to say this exact line in the video. So I did
HOTD started slow, and that was still 1,000x minutes better than this shit. The writers for that show actually have a little something called talent…. Something the writers of this show lack, a five year old could write something better, and probably respect the lore more too
I actually didn’t mind this series in all honesty. There were some things that could have been better, and although it is slightly irritating that they didn’t just follow the original story, however as a story on its own it was reasonable to watch. Given that they were starting with quite a good story to begin with I’m sure they could have done much better. But all things considered I have watched things recently that were far worse than this. Recent Marvel TV shows for example.
Galadriel 💔 Halbrand 😭😭
Just Middle Earth's bad luck that Giladriel happened to bump into Sauron while swimming in the middle of the ocean and then pushed him into going to Middle Earth again and then brought him to the elven forge. I guess Tolkien had it all wrong when he wrote that she never trusted Sauron in his "fair form" in Eregion. Tolkien should have done his homework.
I loved the finale. Was so very happy with mostly all the choices. Would've liked to see Isildur alive this ep but that's about it. Fucking awesome show and awesome finale. Now to see how House of the Dragon closes out!
Nori is hopefully the family start of the Brandybucks, considering she's Brandyfoot. It would give her family that whole adventuring nature that passes down into the Tooks and various other families.
I wasn't surprised on the 'twists'. I figured Halbrand to be Sauron - master of lies. And well the Stranger is either Gandalf (just on look and poise) or perhaps one of the Blues. Or could be original. But I still believe its Gandalf.
I wish people would quit getting upset that this doesn't match the book. Look, Tolkien was the grandfather of fantasy writing and stuff. But he was a professor and his books just don't translate well to different mediums. So you have to accept that in terms of storytelling and such, concessions have to be made. It still looks and feels like the movies, and that's what these are more based on. Or rather giving them better histories - IN THEIR OWN WORLD. Just think of these as two different versions - one is the book, its classic and such. And this is the new version, for modern take, on a different medium.
The best thing of this show is that is over. At least for a few years so we can recover up from this woke-cringe-disrespectful-trainwreck of a show from Lord Bezos and his agenda-driven Tolkien-wannabe writers
Could somebody please tell me where the footage from 5:25 to 5:35 come from?? It definitely is not from the movies because I have watched all 6 of them and never seen it before.
I love how when they drop the mithril into the molt, it forms a spinning eye that looks like the eye of sauron. Nice imagery that kind of foreshadows what's to come.
I have to say I thought that ended very good it can only get better
I was kind of shocked at the reveal that Halbrand is Sauron. I've read some of the Silmarillion, but not all of the Silmarillion books, so I was kind of going in blind.
It wasn't a surprise most of the people knows that... it was like The Southlands to Mordor!
Like the last few seasons of GoT, this show just proves having a big budget for special effect isn’t substitute for solid writing. I don’t think i actually fully watched one episode because of pace and poor writing, and i really tried to like the series.
came here for the breakdowns and leaks years ago - still here for the reviews :)
you are great at them and i think this is a good review of the series. i feel some of these shows just don’t need the week after week release schedule…
a slower pace is better in a binge
I'm basically watching both series through breakdowns! Yours are the best in my opinion.
Thank you
I really liked this episode, more than 6th episode in this series. This was a deserving finale for season 1 with two major revelations and forging on the elven rings.
What I don't get is: in LOTR one of the first things we are told is that the rings were gifted, 3 to the Elves etc...
But in Ring of Power, elves make their own rings. Sure, Sauron was crucial into letting them understand how to forge them, but... what's the point?
They made their own rings, not corrupted by Sauron or anything, what use can Sauron make out of them and why?
I really hope they bring Glorfindel in as a combat upgrade to Galadriel. Her fighting is just nauseating to watch. Get someone who can actually fight, magic lady.
Meteor Man must be Gandalf, the way they made him say “when in doubt, always follow your nose”, which is a direct reference. They’ve changed so much, they’ve probably just changed the time of his arrival. I think the Harfoot taking care of him and how close he gets with them, is a reason for the love he has for the Hobbits later on.
Nope, you are wrong and clearly dont know the source material, just like Amazon. He is not Gandalf, he is an Istari like Gandalf, but a completely other person, in cannon Gandalf comes to ME with Saruman and Radagast and his coming to ME is a huge deal, A HUGE DEAL, thats why it cannot be him. The stranger is one of the two blue wizards that were sent to ME earlier than the other 3, they go east and are never heard of again, tought to have either died or joined Sauron. They were sent to ME to do the thing that we see Galadriel do in the first episode, look for traces of Sauron and report back with the findings, thats why when they eventually dont report back and are never heard of again the Valar send in Gandalf Radagast and Saruman with Gandalf beeing specifically chosen to go on behest of one of the Valar, most of their power sealed away and taking form of old men to be less imposing and seem more trustworthy. Gandalf has a soft spot for all creatures of ME with good in them, that is because he was an apprentice to a Valar who was very compasionate and toughtfull and loving, she taught him those same lessons and that is why Gandalf acts the way he does around Hobbits
@@weedhigh2564 so then the phrase of the istar is a misdirect and he's actually a blue wizard?
@@BasedHorrigan yeah, probably its a saying they all brought with them from Valinor or something, he is 100%, 100000% not Gandalf tho, and there should be another one as well
@@weedhigh2564 And Amazon can make up whatever they want because they bought the rights to the source material. They already pissed off the Tolkien fans already with Sauron, why not piss you guys off some more.
@@doords thing is tho, the Sauron thing is not really that bad, I knew from the start that there was something wrong with Halbrand and that he either was Sauron or one of his lackeys. Sauron can change his appearance at will, he has many forms he uses throughout canon so his reveal, even that bad, doesnt change much, and having him go to the elves first and learns about mithrill even makes a bit more sense than how it was done in the books as it gives him a clear motivation to search for it to make the one ring and thus he needs to go back to the elves so he can steal some, which will lead them to create the rings for men and dwarves. But first Numenor and all that