This car won Le Mans, and it changed the sport FOREVER
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2022
- Whenever group C sports car racing is talked about, the image is that of insanity, distilled down and blown up in hundreds of cylinders across dozens of cars as they fought for some of the greatest accolades in motorsport. And while group C may not have always been quite so ridiculous, our subject today certainly was. So fast was this machine, that the most famous motor racing track in the world was changed to ensure it could never happen again. This is the story of the Sauber-Mercedes C9.
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Man the 80s were just the peak of racing. Massive turbos in F1, Group B in WRC, and Group C.
There were many 'peaks' in motorsports......... The Can Am series in the 60/70s was the craziest league of all time..... Group 5 in the 70s with the 935k3, Zak speed capris, CSLs etc were the wildest GT cars of all time... Sports prototype with Porsche 917k was the Greatest if all time.. GT1 gave us the craziest homologation Cars while giving us some of the best action in the sport... BTW you forgot to mention 1980s group A touring car ... Peak of touring car especially in the DTM series...... Some of the best dog fights in the sport ever recorded......
At least we were lucky enough to see those monsters back in the day, the Can -Am cars were just off the chain.
And then balestre (fia president back then) ruined every single one of them
Even Drag racing was just amazing. Now we have 1000'
and DTM
Even in idle that Mercedes V8 sounds absolutely menacing
Race cars idle at a much higher RPM anyway
Imo it's the best sounding engine ever such a monster
@@Yung_Lowdown59 m119
Its just standing there, menacingly!
@@sepg5084 Well, in that case, imagine the burbly rumbly goodness if it idled at 500 or 750 like a road car (and didnt stall)
Fun fact: The "C" in the name of Saubers cars has nothing to do with group "C" those cars were racing in, but is the first letter of Peter Saubers wife Christiane. A tradition that Sauber started with his first designed racing car chassis and even though Peter Sauber stepped back in 2016, this tradition is still going and today Alfa Romeo - Sauber races the C42 in F1 with the helm. I truly hope that the Sauber team/brand will be going strong and successfull in the future and that the partnership with Audi will boost their performance in F1 as they are already helping Audi on their aerodynamics for their e.g. LeMans racing cars.
I'll give the man credit, throughout the group C days, he was designing and building his own cars with a Mercedes power plant. Fast and great looking cars, but nobody could stop the Porsches whether they were works Porsches, or if the factory skipped on other seasons. Peter Sauber was in there doing his thing.
Other fun fact: that 840 HP was in race trim. For qualifying they could dial it up to between 1400 and 1500 HP.
@@tjroelsma in Gran Turismo 4 it only has 927bhp but in qualifying config, it has 1478bhp.
Bla bla bla
@Thom : She must hold her age very well, or was she not the reason for the Mercedes C111 in the 1960's?
Oh, I forgot... Sauber were not involved with Mercedes back then. 🥴
I was at LeMans in 89. I will never forget seeing and hearing those silver Mercedes thundering around the track all through the night....." A truly awesome experience."
I was also there and confirm the Sauber Mercedes were the best sounding cars on track. However, the Aston Martin were so loud I could still hear them on Monday afternoon!
@@simonkevnorris That's true, the Aston's were also great sounding "Very similar sound." It's interesting that you say you could still hear them on Monday because when we were driving back we kept hearing Le Mans cars in our heads lol and were constantly checking the mirrors of our car. And It took a couple of days to get rid of them. We've been to Le Mans 17 times since, but 1989 was the best year by far because of all the different cars and engine sounds.. (And it wasn't crowded back then)........"Great memories!"
@@saymyname218 In 1989 my brother and his mate and I found a spot just beyond the 'S' and it was on a small hill - so we could sit down in the shade and enjoy a beer and watch the action. I was there on my own overnight and was in the stands over the old pits for a while then in the stands opposite the pits and also on the walk up to the chicane.
I think the Aston Martins were so loud. The Mercedes sounded better to me - the 'burble' of the engine.
I went back in 1996 and this time camped on the outside of the track (Camping Blue I believe). Nightmare conditions - in the sun/heat for days. To cap it all I had taken Friday(?) off and gone up to Normandy to have a look around. I stayed in a cheap hotel for a decent night sleep and left for the track when it was still dark. I could not open the liftback for some reason but managed to get my gear into the car anyway. It turns out someone had tried to use a screwdriver to break the lock. Fortunately, my brother's wife's father was there and he able to remove the lock but still let me open the liftback and close it. I was feeling poorly for the race and, probably only saw 6 hours or so. I do reclal there was an American open cockpit machine there that sounded great.
@@simonkevnorris Amazing times. I still can't believe it was so long ago.
Somewhere that made a just stop oil idiot cry.
And that's how AEG was burned into all of our brains until the end of time. Love this car on sim racing titles. Great video!! Thank you sir!
You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video
They used to make top quality stuff, I got a KWh wall meter from AEG made in 1972 and it still works flawlessly. Sad thing the original AEG went under in 1996.
@@Ferariiman yes, the AEG they now sell is not the same company
@@Ferariiman after 50 years?
Omg
@@automobilistic i absolute love the Sauber C9! One added note, it is also Ayumu Uehara's main favourite car! You know, the main character from the legendary Nijigasaki High School Idol Club?
Group C was the most incredible time in motorsports, bar none. The amazing C9, 962C, XJR9, 787B, TS010, R90C, state of the art automobiles.
Peugeot 956 is the fastest
@@leroiarouf1142Peugeot 905
@@leroiarouf1142 you mean the Peugeot 905 EVO1
Do you understand the basics of Group C rules? It was quite different from what most people imagine.
I did not believe the speed record of 248mph. So I looked it up. That is insanity, holy hell.
Its crazy to think that the Toyota ts050 with its superior aero and hybrid will eat this thing alive and beat the lap record
Peugeot did 253mph at Le Mans
@@YOUENNNN Yeah, Project 400.
They taped up every part of the car to reduce drag, the engine overheated soon after they hit 253mph.
403 ist der Record des C9.
The speed record was made in 1988 from a WM P88 with a 910hp V6 PRV bi turbo Peugeot engine= 405km/h (251mph)
Love the GT4 music in the background! Combined with learning the original legend of legendary cars in GT4 makes for a very pleasant video!
Its also in Gran Tourismo 2
I always hated racing against this car in Gran Turismo, It was the only car that could keep up and give me a challenge. "Hopefully I can get through this pit stop fast enough!!!" lol
Yep. I always backed out and waited until I got a roster without this car. It was unbeatable
That C9 is such an awesome looking car. The C11 as well.
I was at Le Mans in 1989 and was awake for 22 of the 24 hours sleeping from around 10am to noon (in a tent on the inside of the track). I can confirm that the Sauber Mercedes were the best sounding cars out there. Mind you I could still hear the Aston Martin on Monday afternoon.
You definetely need more recognition/views/subscribers. This is quality, great narration and the facts that you present are actually researched. Great work :)
Thanks! Really glad you enjoyed the video
@@automobilistic Also very important, your videos are relatively short in duration. Really handy.
Personally I’d prefer a longer format, but great content, and well presented nonetheless.
@@bla2030 should've had 20min video at least.
@@axkhn4921 axkhn, have u seen clips from GRAN TURISMO 5 UNSEEN? It is in my UA-cam channel. One clip featured a special announcement for Setsuna's new CV of Coco Hayashi.
A lot of fanboys always brag about the Mazda 787B being "too good" but it was actually rubbish in race pace, having the next best result as 5th. When Group C dominance is discussed, only two cars come to mind. Sauber-Mercedes C9 and TWR-Jaguar XJR9.
forget not, the infamous Porsche 956/962c
oh and the Peugeot 905 Evo 1b in WSC 1992 season
@@barkyonyx962 exactly..... The Porsche 956/962 is the poster boy of group C..... That was the real "Banned for being too good" car, Fuck the Mazda........ And with a loophole that thing came back still won le mans after being technically non competitive.....what a legend.....
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Yeah, I totally agree with you. And there are soooo many Group C cars that are way better than the 787B, and yet they aren't even mentioned that much.
that's what nostalgia does to people
@@exiles299 And racing games…
These cars were beautiful!
Awesome channel, you cannot imagine how fond I am of seeing some of these cars that filled my GT3 and GT4 garages. As an idea for a video why not do a mini-documentary on the appearance of wings and spoilers in race cars. I remember reading that the origin of the rear wing was actually to keep exhaust gases from reaching the driver and it ended up benefiting the car aerodynamically.
I have never heard that! I'm sceptical, but I'll look into it. Could be an interesting subject regardless though so thank you for the suggestion!
Gt3 was a God tier ps2 game
So many cars have forced changes in regulations, because they were so much better than the competition. The earliest I can remember, are the Ford GTs with the 427, then the STP turbines at INDY, the Dodge and Plymouth winged stock cars, the Porsche 917's, the Chaparral 'vacuum' car, the six wheel F1 car, the F1 vacuum car, the list just goes on and on, all to slow down, or stop a particular maker from completely dominating a class. Oh, I forgot the Williams active suspension F1 car!
That Chaparral never won a race.
After watching ALL the videos of your channel I can certify that this is clearly one of the most amazing channels I EVER seen on youtube. Thanks a lot for your crazy work and also for your good tastes in music (thanks GT ;) )
The gran turismo music + the content....💣💥💫
Great video! I'm glad yt recommended your channel. I never knew there was so much struggle before the successes of the '89 C9!
Nice to see some of the history behind the C9. I have a 1/12 scale die cast of it and it looks like the real car in every respect. Thanks.
I remember at the time, from prior to the 1989 race the ACO were in the middle of the track renewal process and Balestre the top bloke at the FIA promised them the straight would remain if they built the new pitlane and accepted the new 3.5 rules and shorter race format. Because this wasn't accepted at the time and the 89 race went ahead as normal and they lost the FIA status. The FIA subsequently forced through the rule limiting circuits to the maximum straight length which was not rescinded when the ACO accepted the new formula. It's the same as saying the 787B was banned for being too fast when the rule had already been made beforehand and the car was no longer eligible the next year before it won. In effect the Merc had no involvement in the changes, just Bernie.
When I die and go to heaven, I want to spend my afterlife racing a Porsche 917K and a 962 at LeMans, screaming down the Mulsanne flat out at night….
Merc had involvement - they specifically did the opposite of every other team/OEM. They sided fully with JBM/Bernie/Max Mosley, complied with their requests not to go to Le Mans in 1990 because the FIA had removed it from the calendar because of sudden 'safety concerns' all at a time that FIA was fighting directly with ACO over broadcasting rights and wrestling control of the core idea of endurance racing. Ideas like shifting all non-Le Mans races to 2.5 hours was heavily pitched. Removing pit access to fans, creating a mini-F1 atmosphere. Among internal committees they did not question policy changes like Porsche, Jaguar and Mazda did, they knew who paid the bills so-to-speak.
So instead of sticking around like Porsche, Jaguar, Mazda, and other major OEM's as a show of support for Le Mans, Mercedes withdrew from the event. They simply returned a year later after chicanes were added and then immediately jumped to F1 and abandoned sportscar racing for 4 years. I'd much rather hear how the XJR-12 or the 962 made Le Mans too fast than the C9.. The car that reminds me of Toyota's struggles to win Le Mans back in the 80s.
The 787B was never ‘too fast’.
By the way the Mulsanne/FIA/Ecclestone conspiracy has virtually nothing going for it. The fact was that the impetus came from the drivers and the ACO agreed to do something. At that time the FIA was the FISA and Balestre and Ecclestone hated each other’s guts. The idea that they would have colluded to bring down Group C is absurd.
@@rwec_rimsaracing It was not the FIA!!! Back then it was called the FISA.
The manufacturers abandoned Group C for F1 for two main reasons: first of all, there were more races in F1 and far greater sponsorship opportunities and secondly, Group C cost about as much as F1 anyway. The team owners looked at what Eddie Jordan was achieving on a shoestring budget and decided they could do the same.
got to see the jag xjr 9 in person a few weeks ago at beaulieu motor museum absolutely beautiful car and a serious feat of engineering
Favourite car channel at the moment, right up my alley with good narration and clips combined.
Love this UA-cam channel. Such great videos about the legendary Le Mans cars and cars from Gran Turismo we all grew up with.
Keep up the good work. I have to go back and watch more of your older videos.
Thanks! Really glad you're enjoying the videos!
*_"Such great videos about the legendary Le Mans cars and cars from Gran Turismo we all grew up with."_*
LOL!! I saw them IRL.
@@thethirdman225 Congratulations!
I was born in Sweden,1988, so could never see these in real life. But did you travel around the world and saw the Japan Sports Prototype Championship and the Mimolta 88C-V? The Nissan r89cp, R92cp, 787b, Toyota GT-1 or European endurance with Jaguar XJR9 or Porsche 962?
Ah the Glorious C9!!
That could have been the king of speed had the Chicanes not been installed at Le Mans but its understandable why that happened.
As a Mercedes owner I can tell you they don't mess around with their engines.
They know horsepower. And man that was the glory days of pure speed.
But also safety was not what it is today though which is also why we don't see monsters like that on the track anymore.
Great vidoes sir, you know your history very well.
"As a mercedes owner" my guy you could own a 2004 A class with a 130 bhp 4-pot diesel
@@Emira_75 Thats true too just saying that they do know how to make powerful engines
@@extremedrivr yes, making the same power from a 5L twin turbo as many others are making from a 2L... they know HP... When they see it in other cars...
Mate, 1700cc rally cars were making this kind of power in the 80s.
1600cc F1 cars made double that.
But yes, a 5L Merc, being out dragged by a hot hatch, knows what power is...
Yup, i always say this, their electronics may be fickle, but mercedes knows engines
@@LeonKotze70 If 1700cc rally cars could last 24 hours that would be amazing, but they changed turbos like babies changed diapers, besides the fact that the Mercedes never ran with more than 2.2 bars of boost, so it could never make that much power to begin with. So ye they knew what they were doing.
Finishing is the most important part in any endurance race, so thankfully you're nowhere near qualified enough to stay near these engines, let alone build them.
Love the gt1 results screen play track in the background. Very fitting!
Great video as always man! And congratulations for the 3.4k subs, you deserve all of this!!
Great channel indeed keep up the awesome content, and the C9 is my favourite race car in the endurance series
Awesome video. Informative and entertaining. Keep up the good work.
I cannot tell you how glad I am that you have reached the sub count you have. I remember finding your channel at around 400 subs and I thought to myself that you'd need ten times more than that. Proud of you man, keep doing the good work. (also, when can we get that video on the IMSA 4WD Audi? :D)
Thanks! It really means a lot. As for the IMSA Audi, that one's been on my radar a while, definitely high up the list!
Loved the editing mixed in with your story telling🔥🔥
Your content is just amazing. Love the vibe of your videos with the sound effects and music. Keep it up, I have told my friends and I am sure they will tell theirs
Thanks! Really glad you're enjoying the videos, and I hope your friends do too!
Great video! I really liked the footage and (Gran Tourismo?) music, very pleasant to watch. Looking forward for more videos like this one :)
Really great video, keep up the great work !!
Loved the video..wow those top speeds..literally flying without taking off .
This car is the equivalent of aliens coming to Earth with their advanced technology to complete in the 1989 24hrs of Le Mans. Beating everyone with their flying saucer on wheels, then leaving never to be seen again… That’s obvious NOT what happened, but the Sauber C9 has that mystique & iconic look about it!!
Plus it's silver I think it's an homage to the old mercs without a paint that were called "Silver Arrows"
You should do a video on the 1994 Dauer 962C: a Group C car turned into a quasi-GT1.
Its on the list! I'll probably make a video about the original Porsche 962 first though haha
@@automobilistic Good to know!
Hopefully you'll give time to Porsche's older beasts like the 917 and the 935.
That Dauer 962 was a street legal road car not a full out racing Group C prototype.
@@ernestogasulla7763 Yeah I was going to say the same thing, that the Dauer 962 led to the GT1 catagory. Though I am surprised to hear you don't like the GT1 class era. Most people say they love this era and state that it was the last truely creative sports car prototype era. I am aware that after the Mclaren F1 won Le Mans in 1995, Porsche decided to make a race car and then make 100 or so examples of a road car version for their GT1 sports prototype. That flew in the face of Mclaren because it had won Le Man taking the road version of the F1 and making a race version the F1 GTR which at the time was faster then the prototypes.
Loving the Gran Turismo 2 Tunes in the background 👍🏿😁 Great Video Man!!
Love these videos with a perfect blend of era themed music, it’s like watching an old time VHS.
Good job. Always a fan of this car and this racing class, appreciate the work doing this upload!🍺👍
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Den habe ich damals am Nürburgring Live gesehen - völlige Überlegenheit - sauschnell - schön laut. Tolle Fahrer.
Gotta appreciate that Gran Turismo game music in the background, awesome video mate!
It had the meanest sounding engine in Group C too.I loved it.
The Aston Martin AMR1 sounded better imo.
@@Stratahoovius I think they're both up there, but the C9 gets way more recognition since it was in GT3/4 + it actually won a race
the AMR1 was rather unreliable iirc
@@exiles299 It wasn't particularly unreliable. It had a rock-solid proven V8 platform and innovative body design ideas, it finished 6th in the Championship that year I think. The thing that sunk them was that Ford, their parent company, decided to put all their money and effort behind Jaguar rather than Aston Martin.
Beautiful car. Nice history lesson, thanks.
Ohhh, so this le mans car explains the lore on why GT4 has both the chicane version and no chincane version of Le Mans. Also this car being a reward for beating the longest and hardest championship in GT4 aka the Formula Chaimpionship makes more sense now, it was a historical beast for Le mans and Mercedes-benz itself.
TheCraziestGamer, i got one added note. The Sauber C9 is also Ayumu Uehara (Pomu)'s main favourite car. Even her closest friend, Shioriko Mifune also love that Sauber C9.
I have to say I have loved cars from a young age so I actually get a little excited about learning new things. Thanks!
My favourite sounding racing car of all time .. along with the further iterations of the C9 ... music
Looks, yes, but the 787b sounded better
Love that racer and the original footage, let's share this great channel to fellow petrolheads.
Great content. You earned a new subscriber. Please keep up the good work. Thank you.
Ive been a Porsche die hard ever since childhood, as far as I was concerned the 908 and 917 were the closest thing to exotic mythological creatures. There were other beauties that cast a lifelong spell on me like the Ferrari P4, 312P prototypes, and the Lola T-70. But when the Sauber Mercedes C9 showed up and blew away the competition in 1989 the simple industrial beauty of the car blew me away too 🙏🏾
How do you not have more subs? Loving your vids my guy
Thanks for the video.
I know you did the xjr-9 already but the xjr-14 is so cool and my favorite group c car, great video on the sauber
Man , your videos are amazing you totally deserve more views and subs , they are very good to watch and i wish you luck and sucess in the future!
Thanks! really glad you're enjoying the content!
Interesting video…subbed 👍🏼
Those Mercs were brutal
Actually they weren’t. They were comparatively easy to drive. The Jag was not.
Jochen Mass, Manuel Reuter, and Stanley Dickens were the winners of the 1989 Le Mans 24hrs. Car #63. And that same Sauber C9 was later put into the most popular game from Playstation. Gran Turismo 4.
Very informative and well presented video on this impressive car- pleasure to watch.
Thanks Dave! Glad you enjoyed it!
this car was the bane of my exsistance in grantrismo 3 and 4 as a child. loveee the bacground music. killer video
Awesome video, great production. One of my favorite race cars ever. I’d love to see a video on the Porsche 917!
Great production? Really? Shows the AEG livery when talking about the Kouros car. Talks about “800 hp” but conveniently fails to mention that it was only doing that in qualifying. Talks about 820 and still fails to mention it. Doesn’t talk about the car’s real strength in relation to what Group C was and goes down that silly rabbit hole of top speed. The C9 was a fantastic car but it’s achievements are in its race wins, not it’s top speed.
@@thethirdman225 ive heard from another comment 800hp was actually the race hp, qualifying was over 1000, too lazy to look it up though
Loved the Gran Turismo music in the background. Always cool.
Great videos of the 956/962 until the last 2 minutes. Thats clear reflection on who was dominate in Group C. Porsche focusing on other challenges opened the door for Sauber.
Posting a Sauber C9 video without including its sound is criminal
Agree!
Great video!
Love the Gran Turismo Menu Background Music subtly playing, in the background of this video
One of my favorites from GT4, along with the black R92cp & 787B 💪
Me too. Also along with Rin Hoshizora's R390GT1 LM 1998 and Setsuna Yuki's MINOLTA TOYOTA 88C-V, Ai Miyashita's V12 LMR and Rina Tennoji's PESCAROLO COURAGE C60!
Hahahaha I was about to say i haven’t seen no grand tourismo fans. What over cars do you know lol part from ones in GT4 😂😂😂
Love the array of different gran turismo tracks in the background!
The music brings me back to highschool when I used to play GT marathons to get all the cars. I was able to see the tracks when I slept, in class, or even closed my eyes. It was weird that I was able to fall into an unconscious sleep state and still win races.
I've been binge watching these videos and i just can't get enough. Hey dude, i haven't checked yet, but will there be a video on the Lotus GT-1?
That one has been on the list a while, I haven't gotten to it yet but will try to soon! Glad you're enjoying the videos
thanks for the information
Awesome uploads
Thanks!
great video and all, but the thing i love most, is the gran turismo background music ❤
I really like your channel and I'm a big fan of the Motorsport! I really appreciate the work you're doing and putting into these videos! I had the pleasure to listen to a C9 and omg, it's fantastic!
My suggestion for future videos would be including Metric system too, for example saying "200mph or 320kmph". It would help understanding the contest better for people like me who doesn't use the other system😅
Really glad you like the videos! I'll try to remember to put metric units at least on screen while I'm talking, I think that's a very good suggestion
Agreed Simoptics, but the conversion is pretty simple. 1 mph = 1.6 kmh, 10 mph = 16 kmh, 100 mph = 160, 200 mph = 320 kmh
excellent many thx
Came for the C9, stayed for the nostalgic GranTurismo3 tunes❤
Perfect use of the Gran Turismo music.
My favourite group c car and one of my favourite race cars period, great video, thanks 👍
I agree, I think they're fantastic! Glad you enjoyed the video
@@automobilistic I believe mercedes almost made a supercar similar to it back in its day, but never made it to production, wasn't a direct lookalike but definitely group c elements
@@GetawayGuyDriver that would've been so cool! what a shame it never happened. At least mercedes gave us homologated madness in the 90s
@@automobilistic look up mercedes c112 👍
@@GetawayGuyDriver that's not what I was expecting at all! it doesn't look very mercedes-y lol. Very interesting though, I'll have to do some more reading on that at some point
Thank you and I'm watching this with my lovely 1/18 Exoto C9 model between me and the iMac! Stay well.
I've been thinking of getting a C9 model to add to my small collection! And by "thinking about" I mean I've decided whereabouts on my desk it should go hahaha
@@automobilistic unsure if Exoto are still active but their models, together with CMC, IMHO are peerless
@@MartinHarvey I'll have to do some research!
@@automobilistic Labour of love!
That model is one of my holy grails , can't find one anywhere !
Thank you for the gt3 music in the back 😌
Nice upload bro
This video reminds me of the old Dreamcast and PS1 Le mans games. Gorgeous.
The cars' history doesn't end in 1989, though. The team did end up using it in the first round of the 1990 WSC in Suzuka. They finished 1st and 2nd ending the career of the C9 on a high note before it was replaced by the C11 thereafter.
This is my new favourite channel
Getting back to Gran Turismo legends...can we get a video on the Escudo Pikes Peak... that thing was insane
Just kidding, you already covered it...I missed that somehow. Excellent work 👍👍👍
This video is great, but having the GT2 soundtrack in the background makes it awesome!
The late 60s to the last 90s were as just the greatest 30 years in gt racing imo, group 5, group c, gt1 just to name a few were always so action packed consistently I’m only 17 an I go back to watch races every other day an just to see how fun it was to watch compared to now is crazy
Do I relive Gran Turismo, not only by the tunes at start?
Lovely video and voice to be honest, awesome content for enthousiasts as myself!
I tried hard to focus on what you were saying, the music took me back to a lovely place 😌.
Nice video though, it was a great era for motorsport
i love the Gran Tourismo Soundtrack in the backround. :D
My favorite cars are the Group C lineup. Not a bad looking, or sounding car in the bunch. But that big Mercedes V8 is my favorite sounding engine. What a great time in motorsports!!
One word alone describes the C9 BEAST
The Gran Turismo sound got me good man!!
My #1 favorite race car of all time !!!!!
The music brings back so many happy memories
This is a great channel, i hope you keep growing i really enjoy these videos
Fantastic video, thanks! Is that hill at 2:10 still there? Looks formidable..
This beast in gt4 was psychotically fast. Too bad you basically couldnt get it until the final major race of the game
I like how different and unique it looks! It's very pretty car for sure!
Love the Grand Turismo menu music!
Seen the number 62 car up in the Mountains on a Sunday drive.. beautiful
love the gt2 sound track ,brings back memories